From Obsession To Murder: The Girlfriend Who Couldn't Let Go - Shayna Hubers

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Because listen, they call this woman the Kentucky Jodi Arias, which if you're familiar with Miss Jodi Arias, then you know, okay, we're already off to quite the start. So this woman, she's young. She's smart. She's ambitious. And honestly, it seemed like she had it all. A hot bod. She was gorgeous. except the one thing she could not control her obsession shana humors wasn't just in love she was consumed when her boyfriend tried to leave she wasn't just gonna let him walk away oh no she was not no she was not now what followed was like a dark cocktail of jealousy manipulation and violence that left everyone asking like was this a desperate act of self-defense or a cold execution trust me the interrogation tapes the bizarre behavior the never-ending trials you are not going to believe how wild this case is okay let's get into it let me tell you about Shana Hubers, okay? 19-year-old Shana Hubers, she was attending the University of Kentucky and she was pursuing a degree in psychology. Now she was considered, you know, fun college girl and I guess she also did some modeling on the side. She was good looking. She had beauty. She had brains. She had big, beautiful eyes, brunette hair, a fit bod, great smile. She was given Teresa Barbie, kinda. So in 2011, some friends of hers, they posted like pictures from their spring break trip onto like their Facebook, you know? So they're like, ah, ah. And in one of those pictures, Shana and her friends, They were, you know, in their little black bikinis posing on like a nice balcony. You know, just looking all hot. Post that onto Facebook, right? So that caught the attention of this guy named Ryan Poston. Now he must have been friends with whoever posted it, okay? So he sees this picture and he's like, ooh. So Ryan, he was 29 years old and he was like working as an attorney in Cincinnati. So he was kind of like a big wig. He even had his own legal practice. So he sees this picture of Shana on Facebook and he was like, I'm gonna send her a friend request. And he sure did. He sends her a friend request and then Shana accepts because like Ryan, he wasn't bad looking. She was like into him. I mean, between the eyebrows, the hair, And every photo of him, he's giving like this smoldering stare. He never smiled. She was always like, you know, he was kind of giving me like young Christian Bale, an American psycho. Does he though? It doesn't matter. We're moving on. He had the stare. So Shana, she accepts his friend request. And then the two of them, they're like sending flirty messages back and forth. And it's like nothing major. It's just like, oh my God, you're hot. Let me get in your hot. This hot. Yeah. You know, a few months go by. And then Ryan, he goes to a party at the University of Kentucky. Now his cousin, Carissa, she invited him to come to this party. So he's like, okay, I'm down. So he ends up going to the party, right? And he realizes that his cousin is actually good friends with that hottie from Facebook. Shana. I know. I was like, small world. or was it a planned meet cute i don't know so he realizes this and he he's like hey to his cousin carissa like introduce us you know so carissa she introduces them and then the two hit it off immediately i guess it was like from then on ryan would drive two hours from his condo to shana's apartment almost every single weekend and um when shana had graduated i guess like that that following year, she would make the drive to his condo in Highland Heights, Kentucky. From the outside, it seemed like Ryan and Shana were in, you know, a new happy relationship. Plus they're both good looking, so everyone's like, oh, well, living the dream. Or so it seemed, you know, cause we're here. According to Ryan's friends, he started to express that like, he was losing interest in Shana, but he was having a hard time breaking up with her because he was like, he was too nice and he didn't want to hurt her feelings. But Shayna, you know, she had like a very different take on their relationship. She would tell people how happy she was with Ryan and would talk about how the two of them, you know, they were gonna get married. They were, it was just like, it was perfect. Carissa, you know, Ryan's cousin, said that Shayna would like always say she couldn't wait to be related to her for real. But I guess there were times when Shana would mention to others that like Ryan was a little abusive towards her, mostly emotional, but there were times when it got physical. I guess there was this one night where Shana went to the neighbor's condo and she was crying saying that Ryan had grabbed her and like, I guess, thrown her to the ground and her arm was like all red. So the neighbor believed her and told her like, report it to the police, you know, like freaking leave him. But you know, Shana just decided to let it go. Throughout their relationship, Ryan would bring Shana with him to like a lot of his family events, big and small. And on October 11th, 2012, Ryan actually invited Shana to go with him to his parents' house to watch the live vice presidential debate. So they go, you know, great. While they were there, I guess Ryan at some point pulled his stepdad aside and he wanted to get his advice on how to handle ending things with Shana because he actually had met someone else that he was like really excited to get to know. So Ryan told his stepdad all about this woman. He said, well, I have a date tomorrow night with somebody who I'm like really excited to meet. You know, she's beautiful. She's tall. She's blonde. And she's Miss Ohio. Literally Miss Ohio. Yeah, apparently he and Miss Ohio at the time, her name was Audrey Bolt. They had been messaging and texting for like months and they were finally planning to meet. So Ryan was like all excited about it. Plus she's gorgeous. She's gorgeous. You know, looks like a Barbie doll. he seems to have a type but he was sharing all this with his stepdad and yes he was talking to Miss Ohio while he was still quote unquote with Shana you know okay now according to Ryan's stepdad he told him like look just let Shana down easy and be respectful but overall according to his stepdad he said that Ryan seemed like really excited about this potential new love interest. So after the debate ended Ryan and Shana they had left his parents house and they went back to his condo. Now it was said that the two of them got into some kind of argument around three in the morning. Now I guess you know whatever happened Shana was so upset she ended up calling her mom again at 3 a.m and her mom answers good for her uh telling her like that she was having chest pains and just like she wasn't okay Sharon her mom when they're on the phone she can kind of uh she could tell something was different like something was off and you know she had those mom spidey senses kind of tingling in her brain Sharon later said that she was worried about her daughter's well-being because I guess Shana told her her mom that Ryan had guns just laying like all around his place and would sometimes just like shoot random things inside like he would just I guess pick up one of his guns and like shoot at a book that was sitting on the shelf I know could you imagine being there downstairs neighbors you already got to deal with the people who are always like freaking wearing clogs all the time at like 2 a.m and now you got like someone randomly shooting upstairs uh anyways so I guess he would do that I'm just like who does that so after that phone call Sharon she ended up driving two hours from Lexington to Ryan's condo you know to go check on her daughter. Again, it's like freaking 3 a.m. or something, so she gets there really early. When she got there, the two of them decided to leave his place and just like spend the day together. I guess sometime later that day, Ryan had texted Shana, quote, I think I need some time by myself this weekend, Shana. And Shana replied, I'll be by later to get some bath items and head to the Marriott. Meaning she was gonna like go get her stuff and then just get out of his way and go stay at a hotel. Today's episode is brought to you by IQ Bar, our exclusive snack, hydration, and coffee sponsor. IQ Bar protein bars, IQ Mix hydration mixes, and IQ Joe mushroom coffees are the delicious, low sugar, brain and body fuel you need to win your day. Listen, it's a new year, And maybe your New Year's resolution or maybe just in general, you're like, look, I got to take care of myself a little bit better. You know, listen, that's where IQ Bar comes in to save the day. 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To get your 20% off, text MAKEUP to 64000. Text MAKEUP to 64000. That's MAKEUP to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. So Shana's mom, she had dropped her off at Ryan's condo and then headed back home. Just hours later at 8.53 p.m. on October 12th, Shana called Campbell County 911. Campbell County 911. Ma'am, I have, I have an, um, um, I, I killed my boyfriend in self-defense. What did you kill him with? I've got a loaded gun in the house. Tell me where the gun is right now. The gun is in the house. Where at the man? Tell me where it's at. I laid it on the bookshelf. Where are you? I'm standing about being beat from his dead body. Okay, are you sure that he's dead? He's dead, ma'am. He's completely dead. Hey, at least she confessed. Case closed. So Shana then asked the dispatcher, like, are the police gonna arrest me? You know, am I gonna be under arrest? And when the dispatcher couldn't give her a straight answer, Shana just blurted out like, I mean, I'm not a murderer, ma'am. I just killed him in self-defense. Shana told the dispatcher that Ryan had attacked her and tried to like throw her out of the house. She said when she tried to grab her things, he was standing right in front of her, grabbed a gun and she took it from his hand and then she pulled the trigger. the dispatcher asked if she needed an ambulance because like you know it sounded like she was attacked as well um shana did say she had she was thrown against the couch you know so um do you need an ambulance do you need an ambulance shana said no she did not need an ambulance she'd have any injuries so then the dispatcher asked like if there was a history of domestic violence between the two of them and shana said yes so at this point you know the true first responders when it comes to cases or shit like this is always the dispatcher. Now, the dispatcher usually is talking to sometimes the killer. And their job is to try and get them to kind of like keep talking in a way. Get some clarity here, you know, while you have them. So the dispatcher is trying to do just that. she's trying to get clarity on the situation because like it's not really making sense. At first Shana told the dispatcher that Ryan tried to throw her out of the house and then she said he threw her across the room to the floor and now she was saying that he threw her into the couch. So the story was just like which is it ma'am? Ma'am which is it? And then Shana like mid-call still crying and all that you know she kind of like has a moment where she snaps out of it and on the call she almost sounds annoyed because apparently she could hear an echo on the call and it was like really bothering her so she tells the dispatcher and when i reached around and tried to get my thing key i can hear myself actually in the background ma'am it's just this phone system. This phone system has got a delay. And he pushed me down from the door all the way to the couch. And when they come here, they'll see how far that is. Okay. I don't know. Just a little, it's just those little things where you're like, okay. Then she goes back to like telling the story and crying and stuff. It was just kind of a little weird, strange moment, you know? Now listen, listen, listen. Shana then reveals something like even more disturbing on the call. Okay. She said that after she first shot Ryan, he started twitching. So she shot him again. And the dispatcher was like, I'm sorry, you shot him a couple more times after that? And Shana, she was like, yeah, it's not funny. She was like, enough to make sure he was dead because he was twitching so bad. I didn't want him to lay there and twitch. so the dispatcher was like so you shot him instead of calling 9-1-1 and shana was like yeah i did because i knew he was gonna die anyway okay what do you say to that that's something like when people go hunting and they want to put an animal out of their misery and they shoot them you know but like um i don't think that applies here ma'am. So listen after this you know the police get to Ryan's condo quick and they immediately arrest Shana. So officer David Fornash Jr. showed up and he went into Ryan's condo to check out the scene of the crime. Now when he first got in there you know he described Ryan's place as like a pretty normal bachelor pad. When you first walked into the door it's like the living room area and then if went to the right it's like a hallway that leads to the spare bedroom and the bathroom and ryan was using this area as like um his closet it was full of suits ties and um tactical gear and then behind the living room was the main bedroom and the kitchen and then next to the kitchen is like the dining room area in the dining room area that's where they found ryan's body on the floor next to to the dining room table. So noted. At the police station, Officer Fornash, he explained to Shana her Miranda rights. You know, you have the right to remain silent. You have the right. I don't really know what they have, but you know. Yeah. So he reads her her rights and he had her sign a waiver saying that she understood her rights Now while signing this waiver Shana made it clear she wanted an attorney So officer Fornash said you know okay I won ask you any questions but I still need some answers from you for like the general paperwork that they have to fill out like what's your full name your date of birth blah blah blah you know. So officer Fornash he's like taking this information down you know and while doing so shana she just like starts running her mouth she starts talking and she's talking all about her and um ryan's relationship now she starts telling the officers in the room like he was abusive um and that you know she she had to defend herself now again because she asked for an attorney um the officers that were in the room they were not allowed to ask any questions but they still they let her keep talking now listen here at murder mystery makeup we were able to get like all of um the documents the footage everything regarding this case thanks to highland heights police chief bill berkenhauer and he oversaw the case and he even testified in trial so he sent us like freaking everything so we have some of the interrogation footage i've seen clips of it here and there when i was like researching it but um i haven't seen this one so we're gonna watch it because apparently it's bizarre okay you want to contact an attorney correct oh yeah okay Something like that. Okay. That'll work. All right, now just hang tight and drink your water, okay? And I shot him in self-defense because he's done stuff before where I've hit my head on a headboard and could have died. Okay. Well, that's the kind of questions I was going to ask. I can't ask you these questions, okay? When you make the statement, that's fine, but I can't ask you any questions because you want an attorney. I do want an attorney. Okay. So I can't ask you any questions at all. I'm not a malicious person. I'm not somebody that's ever done this. Anyone that knows me, any character, even his own family would say I'm a nice, good person. He had put his arm across the table and there's a lamp. And he had put his arm across the table and had it in my face and was screaming at me at the top of his lungs after he had thrown me around the room. One of our last conversations we had that was good was that he wants my best friend as a dentist to do as a nurse and wants to get a nose job. Just that kind of person. And I saw him right here. I gave him his nose job he wanted. He was physically violent with me and threw me around the room. She gave him the nose job he always wanted? Shut up. Why was she, why is she talking? I mean, like it's good she's talking, you know, but like, what are you fucking, you're crazy. What? way into the dining room, all the way into the living room, back into the dining room. His obsession with God killed him. You know, I would have never, but for some reason there's like mispeased because I know that I didn't, I didn't do anything out of like malicious intent. If someone else was in the room and they watched it go down, they would have been like, good for her or thrown around the room like I don't have any marks but I was thrown around the room I probably do on my legs actually I was thinking about that I probably do have some bruises my shoulder hurts have you seen that Michael Jackson meme where he's like my shoulder hurts my shoulder is dislocated literally I'm in pain all the time it's giving me that right now I think he grabbed me by his shoulder It feels like sore. It's so much as it sounds. I hope that we don't want to sit in here. No? No. Probably would have badly, badly hurt me. I don't know if he would have killed me, but he would have badly hurt me. I don't know if killed him. I don't know if anyone will ever want to marry me if they ever died. I killed a boyfriend and helped him. It's not funny. No, it's not. No. We sit in here like, oh, I hope Ryan's family doesn't hate me. Talk to him. Their son is an abuse of shit. Their son beat a girl who weighs 85 pounds less than him and drug her around his house. Pulled me by the ponytail of my hair. He deserved it. Hell has no fury like a woman's porn. I never believed it until now. I have two papers to do money that I haven't. I don't know if that's even going to matter now. If you go to jail, are you allowed to keep your phone and, like, keep your phone and stuff? Your cell phone? My cell phone? I don't think so. Yeah, where's time to be on your period, I'll tell you what. Now, here's a good question. Pausing there, because circling back to our Clara Harris episode, I still can't get over that, like, crime of passion situation. situation. What was it? Passion of crime. Sudden passion crime. If she would have said I was on my period and I killed him whatever I bet you in Texas she could have you know you're not saying anyways she's not in Texas though. I had to go to jail. Can you shower there? Or do you just get really dirty? I think they let you shower there. Really? I have to shower in front of people. Oh shit. Oh, my God. I didn't know. Here's what's going to happen right now, Shana. Okay. With everything that we have, we're going to have to charge you with murder, okay, for right now. For right now? Yeah. Well, until you go to court and stuff and then you decide what they're going to do with it. Okay. But what we're going to do is we're going to search where we're going to need your clothes. Officer Lane is going to be in here, and she's going to help you take your clothes off, you don't put them in bags what degree murder there's no degree okay well you know what are we gonna say about that well i don't know she said a lot huh and they just let her keep talking and good thing they did i think that one line though of just like she gave him the nose job that he always wanted that's that's fucked up girl like did you really just say that jeez louise i think we all assume like if you went through something really traumatic like that and Like you just like you, you in self-defense, like killed someone. I guess we all in our mind have an idea of how you would behave. And I don't think that's it. You know what I'm saying? I don't think that's, I don't think that's it. I don't think that's how you do it, but okay, girl. You know that moment when you put on a cute outfit, but it feels off because you may not have the right undergarments for the situation. I don't know. 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Like, are you? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, now she's a dancer. Oh, okay, that's it. All right. She's dancing. She's snapping her fingers, saying, yep, I did it. I can't believe I did that. Great. You just gave the police everything they needed right then. And like, what are you doing? So basically, with all the stuff she said, because that was just a little tiny bit of it. With all the stuff she said, how she's acting, police are thinking this most likely is not self-defense you know this is probably just straight up murder a lot of things are not adding up with her story at this point shana was officially charged for the murder of ryan poston and her bond was set for like five million dollars and uh she didn't have that kind of money so she remained in custody throughout the investigation so with shana behind bars the police investigation focused less on did she do it and more on why did she do it shana said from the very beginning it was self-defense but the police needed proof if that was true or they needed proof that it was premeditated now the autopsy report showed that ryan was shot a total of six times yeah that's a lot he was shot in the face his head his chest his side. The coroner also found gun residue on Ryan's body which meant that some of the the shots were fired at a very close range. Now on top of that some of the bullets entered his body at like a downward angle which would suggest that Shana was standing over him. Self-defense wear you know? The coroner later testified that Ryan was most likely sitting down when the first shot was fired, which was very different from what Shana originally said. Remember all the 911 call, she said that he was standing in front of her when she took the gun from him and she pulled the trigger. So, you know, they have their theories and all that stuff. So their investigators are still looking for more. And they looked into Shana's internet search history. you know that can say a lot about a person i always think about mine i'm like oh my oh my oh dear my internet okay but anyways they look into shana's internet search history and they came across some pretty interesting searches just two days before um killing ryan it appears that shana had googled miss ohio audrey bolt the woman that ryan was supposed to meet up with yeah shana had googled her and it's unclear how she found out about miss ohio it becomes clear later on but you know what girls do it's like you find out maybe someone is your your boyfriend or ex-boyfriend's dating someone new so you go into the your friend's chat and you're like oh my god like look at he's dating so and so and you guys so she did that shana like brought it up in her friend's group chat you know like look at this is who ryan is like dating now and Shana's friends were like oh my god you know he looks so much better than her she's not even a real blonde oh my god just doing what friends do later on I mentioned but we know that Shana she had access to his Facebook and she was reading his messages so I'm assuming that she saw the messages between him and Miss Ohio and like that's when she googled her and stuff but yeah Investigators didn't technically know that she was in Ryan's Facebook at this point. Now, another suspicious Google search Shana made just an hour before calling 911 was how to unlock a house door using a bobby pin. Hmm. What are you using that for? What are you doing? I don't know. It's all speculation here. It doesn't really say anything, but it also is like, you know, just not a good look. Nellis and the police, they ended up reviewing over 50,000 text messages, 20,000 Facebook messages, and like photos sent between Shayna and Ryan. And they came to the conclusion that these two had a very toxic on again, off again relationship. Okay. It was a lot. now the text messages between shana and ryan they were all over the place i mean one minute they would be arguing the next they were discussing like what to eat for dinner shana would text ryan almost every single day asking what he wanted for dinner whether she was cooking it at like his place or she was ordering it in anything even if she went out with like friends and stuff for dinner she would send him a picture of like the menu and be like babe do you want something to eat I'll bring it home for you it was a lot but she always made sure that he had like a warm meal waiting for him when he got home which doesn't sound bad or anything right like okay and if he ever forgot something at home like his wallet let's say he went to work he forgot his wallet Shana she'd like bring it to his office for him and be like do you want me to bring you lunch you know whatever uh she was always like on call all the while like she would be at his condo doing her school work and then like cleaning his place doing his laundry doing the most she was she was really giving stepford wife energy you know which isn't bad if that's what she wanted to do but like in the text messages and all of all the messages ryan never really did anything sweet like that for her seemed like he was never thinking about what do you want for dinner like nothing it was always from her and then like um whenever their relationship was not good not in a good spot they'd be fighting ryan would be so quick to like put her in her place yeah one time he there was like this one text message where he told shana quote honey it's not a real relationship it's just exclusive non-touching of other girls. What? Excuse me? And I guess Shana replied to that saying it is a real relationship or I'm not in it. She was all talk. She was still in it. It's just kind of like a dick thing to say, huh? Yeah. Just non-exclusive touching of other girls. What? Okay. You know, at one point, Ryan, he wanted out of this relationship and he tried to really negotiate with her their breakup hoping that like shana would accept it if she got to look like the dumper instead of the dumpy he texted her you can tell people you broke up with me you know i won't say anything bad about you don't worry about the key just throw it away at times messages would escalate to like shana stop texting me i no longer have the patience to deal with you like in all caps i'm turning off the phone and padlocking the door unsubscribe you know like he was just freaking done he just sounds like an asshole but like listen shana was okay she was kind of doing a lot turns out she would be texting him multiple times a day back to back now i'm not talking like one or two times, you know? She would be sending 20 to 100 texts at a time. Huh? Yes. One of my personal pet peeves is like when someone texting you and it be like five back texts and it like couldn you just have sent that as one text it drives me crazy but anyways could you imagine 20 to 100 oh i would fucking lose it anyway she was texting him all the time um she's complaining about how he he treated her she would be calling out his behavior essentially having an argument with herself because he wouldn't even be replying to most of her messages. Like there was this one day Shana texted Ryan a long ass paragraph about how she was feeling left out because he had planned on hanging out with his friends after work instead of hanging out with her. Shana texted him saying it kind of hurt my feelings that you didn't even want to see me after your events are over at night this weekend. I haven't even seen you in over a week aside from last night. That part it made me giggle. Aside from last night. I just feel like you're going out with these people when you could go out with me after. And I kind of felt excluded. I understand that I can't go to the show. But I didn't see anything wrong with seeing you after. And it, like I said, made me wish I was invited over or out with you after. I really just wanted to have a good weekend with you. Even if I only saw you tomorrow night after the show. She was saying a lot. A lot. I haven't seen you in over a week. Aside from last night. Sorry, that's just so funny to me. During one of their rocky periods, Shana had gotten a new cell phone number and she pretended that she was a new client interested in Ryan's legal services. Because remember, Ryan was an attorney. He was working as an attorney. So she gets this new number and she decides to call his office, pretending to be a client. Then she starts texting Ryan for urgent assistance. But instead of keeping the like, I'm just a client story going, she instead just started like crashing out on him. She sent him texts insulting his intelligence, insulting his looks, insulting his performance in bed. She was texting him like, you have a small dick, LOL. Your teeth are jacked up. and you're a bad lawyer it was like oh god reading them you're just like this girl is fucking idiot now obviously ryan was super confused because he had no idea who this person was he asked like a couple of times in the in the tax exchange like who is this um but he couldn't get an answer but i will say based off of his responses he kept it very professional given what was like being thrown his way he was just like okay uh-huh I'll give him that when I was going through all the documents and like evidence that Chief Bill Birkenhauer had sent over to us I came across this email that Shana had sent Ryan some months before this weird catfish moment happened now the email itself was long but there was one line that really stood out um saying quote it's sad that I just wanted anything to talk to you and be acknowledged even if I had to come across as a client to get noticed. Essentially this email was her apologizing to Ryan for pretending to be a client and again this email was dated before the text messages of her pretending to be a client so I was like wait wait wait wait this happened did she do this before? Has she done this before? and she was just doing it again. Either way, she did that, okay? Either way, whether it was once, twice, three times, we don't know. But she was pretending to be a client and would harass the shit out of him. Listen, exhausting, okay? Now, the day of Ryan's murder, Shana had sent him like a bunch of long ass text messages, pretty much just talking about anything and everything she could to get his attention. in these texts she was told him like she was diagnosed with high blood pressure and heart disease and that she was really stressed out about a dying family member just going on and on like and the doctor's giving medication this is the medication it's i'm just so stressed but just going on and on like she's trying to get him to bite you know what i'm saying she's trying to get a reaction from him but he didn't reply to any of it and instead he asked for some personal space and while the text messages between Shana and Ryan were a lot messages between Ryan Shana and their friends co-workers whatever were actually more telling Shana's messages told a story of obsession deceit and honestly straight up harassment in my opinion there was a friend of Shana's. Her name was Jasna. Now Jasna lived in the same town as Ryan and at one point Shana told Ryan that she had moved in with Jasna. But then you know when you go through her texts it seems that wasn't the case. Shana hadn't texted Jasna. If Ryan ever tries to talk to you on Facebook about where I'm at, don't respond, and don't accept his friend request. Ha ha. He thinks I've stayed with you all this time when I haven't. Ha ha. Who gives a fuck? He's a dick and abusive. I'm so done with his shit. Will you do that for me if he contacts you? LOL. Because I think he's on to me and thinks I'm being shady. Girl, you are being shady. You are being very shady. she's being exhausting right oh god she's got ryan over here thinking like wow where are they what are the odds i guess we live in the same town now shit but the reality was shana hadn't moved in with this friend she was actually driving two hours to ryan's town and then she would stay at a like hotel or a friend's house hoping ryan would call and ask her to come over she like just wanted to be close by just in case she was on call there were times when shana would apparently be like at his condo or or whatever you know and she would ask if she could borrow his laptop to write a paper for school and of course while she's on his laptop she would log into his facebook and from his account she would go and like her own photos then block women he was flirting and slash or messaging with okay um and then she would like message jazna about it just bragging like ha ha block that hoe ha ha so again i think that's how she she found out about miss ohio now listen a lot of her friends found it you know all this drama kind of funny and entertaining remember they're in their 20s so it's like f him and like it's you know your early 20s you don't really realize that it's it's stalker crazy behavior so a lot of them are just kind of like lol whatever finding it entertaining but there were a few of shana's friends who were actually trying to get her to like snap snap back to reality girl okay get over him and move on It was said that Shana did try to date other people, but usually she would do it as a way to like mention it to Ryan to make him feel jealous. 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And listen her and shana were close and they would text all the time and at one point chrissy had gotten like so freaking annoyed with shana's text messages venting about ryan that she decided to just reach out to him directly saying ryan shana is more upset than usual she loves you i have three patients scheduled at 8 a.m so for the love of christ can you call her and tell her you love her like she was freaking over it she's just in the middle of it but ryan also like you know when investigators are going through all the messages and everything like it showed that ryan he had a little uh dark side too like he had an angrier side that not a lot of people saw like there was this one night where ryan was out at a bar and he ran into one of his ex-girlfriends so he like started texting shana about it and he said quote i think she's afraid i'm gonna kill her and everyone she knows i told her i wouldn't be too surprised if that happened but it would only be if i didn't have anything better to do okay then a year later he texted shana again talking about his ex-girlfriend he texted shana she's terrified of me one of the reasons she originally started dating me was because she was very aware that I would have killed her ex-boyfriend at the drop of a hat and no one would have ever found his body. That's why she dated you? Well, you know, listen, I'll say this, and this is not great, but I will say sometimes when you're younger, in your 20s, and you're like, oh my God, he'd do anything for me. You think that's like super impressive. So I'm imagining like Shaina and probably his ex were both like, oh my God, wow, he would do anything for me. You know, do you know what I'm saying? Either way, it's unclear how Shana responded to these messages, but they continue to date. So it wasn't concerning to them, the ex and her. Well, obviously the ex because she got out of it. The investigators also read some messages where Ryan had admitted to a friend that he was struggling with pills. He told his friend that his depression medication wasn't working for him saying the stuff they put me on fills me with rage from what I can tell. He messaged a different friend that same night saying quote he took three Ambien, three Xanax, a Klonopin, and eventually a shot of vodka. I laid down to sleep at 12 and I estimate I finally fell asleep at 4 30. I was honestly concerned that I was going to kill myself but I had to be in court at nine three Ambien three Xanax Kalana Kalana what the fuck and then he had to be in court could you imagine if he was like representing you you hired him as an attorney and he shows up like that well obviously he's struggling with something during this time like when all these messages were going on and stuff he was actually going through I guess a very stressful legal battle with an ex-business partner and apparently it was filling him with rage he He messaged a co-worker of his saying, I want this piece of bleep destroyed. He bleeped it out. Bury him neck deep at low tide. Throw darts at his head. Wait for high tide to roll in so I can stomp on his head while he's drowning. I want to rig explosives to everything I see. And there's nothing I want more than to just scorch the effing earth and leave this entire city in a pile of burnt rubble. Because my brain has a trip wire in there somewhere and if it snaps, I worry about what would happen. Bro. So, um, he too seemed to be struggling with some issues there too. You're allowed to be angry and stuff, you know. That doesn't mean you deserve to die. Let's be fair here. Ryan even said to a friend that maybe being a sociopath is the way to go. Yeah, that's always the answer, huh? It sounds like he was taking a bunch of medications and it like maybe they just, they weren't, well, obviously he's taking a bunch of medications really, but like they weren't finding the right combination for him that was working, obviously. With all this evidence, the police wrapped up their investigation and it was time to move forward with the trial, finally. two and a half years after shana's arrest her trial finally started on april 13th 2015 in newport kentucky she was now 24 years old i know i i forget how young she is 24 she was 22 yeah and she pled not guilty to ryan's murder she was sticking with her story of self-defense on day one the prosecution played the interrogation video and the 9-1-1 call for the court they then called police chief bill berkenhower to the stand and he revealed that shana had not immediately called 9-1-1 after shooting ryan this was new news to me she actually called her mother first and then about 15 minutes later she called 911. In the interrogation video Shana admitted that she actually considered fleeing the scene but her mom advised her to just call the police and tell the truth and the police call log actually showed that Shana's mom she called 911 to make sure that Shana had called 911. So at least her mom was like not trying to let her get away with it you know. Experts testified about everything from blood spatter to how they believe Shana used the murder weapon, which was a Sig Sela 380 semi-automatic handgun. Mouthful, huh? But she used that to kill Ryan. But some of the most interesting testimony came from some of Shana's jailmates. Oh yeah. you know while she was in jail she was talking of course she was talking and she was talking a lot one woman her name was cecily miller she testified that shana joked a lot about the shooting in jail even telling that like that nose job joke over and over again she just thought it was hilarious she said that shana openly talked about her legal strategy and how she was going to get away with it and that shana believed she was just way too smart to plead insanity because she had the iq of einstein according to shana so she was going to plead battered wife syndrome this is what the cecily lady was saying then another jailmate holly nivins she testified that shana's original story like when they first met was that Ryan had mentally and sexually abused her but over time her story changed you know of course it did so her story changed to now making it sound like she knew exactly what she was doing and again like she was almost bragging to Holly about killing him Holly also testified that Shana was taking notes on the Jodi Arias trial. Yes it was airing at the time and that she was kind of like using it as a guide for what to do and like what not to do in the courtroom I did a whole murder mystery and makeup episode on Jodi Arias if you remember or if you want to watch that one A lot of similarities here But while Jodi trial was happening I guess they were like showing it in the rec room at the jail Shana was in So she'd be watching and like taking notes. She was inspired. And then a third and final jailmate took the stand. Her name was Donna Dooley. And she testified that Shana told her on the night of the murder, they were sitting. this was a quote like they were sitting at the kitchen table and he had sat his gun on the table she told me she picked up the gun and said what would you do if i and then he smirked and she shot him now this version of shana's story kind of fits with what the forensics experts had been saying that Ryan was sitting down when he was killed. So then Ryan's downstairs neighbors, Vernon and Doris West, they were called to testify about what they heard that night. They said they never heard any like fighting or arguing but around 8 30 p.m they heard a woman crying out on the balcony and then about 15 minutes later it sounded like she had like gone back inside. Then I guess they heard two gunshots followed by four more shots and then what sounded like a body hitting the floor. My mind was like did they call the police? Because if you look at the police records their names didn't show up but maybe you're just overlooking. Maybe they did or maybe they're just like nah that's our crazy neighbor again. I don't know but that's what they heard that night. That crazy neighbor, he's always shooting stuff. Carissa, remember Ryan's cousin, she testified about some of the texts she got from Ryan where he was expressing his frustrations. He texted her saying, quote, this is getting to be restraining order level crazy. She's shown up at my condo like three times and refuses to leave each time. End quote. Now during this time when this whole situation went down in order to get a restraining order and against someone in Kentucky you either had to be living with the person or be married to them so there's no record that like Ryan was trying to get a restraining order but I just thought it was interesting that even if he did want to Kentucky wouldn't have even allowed it because they got some funky ass law over there Carissa also testified saying that he texted her quote she came to my place on Sunday morning and I literally had to pick her up and throw her into the hall end quote so she's like talking about these text messages she also mentioned on the stand that there was a time where Shana took her phone to call Ryan because he was ignoring Shana's calls and she knew that like he would pick up the call if it was Carissa calling. So again just further telling the court that Shana was freaking obsessed and Ryan was obviously bothered by it. So Shana's lawyer focused on showing the jury that Shana and Ryan's relationship wasn't as negative as the prosecution was making it seem. Okay there were several texts between the two of them that were completely normal and loving and even sometimes you know spicy you know they're like look nudes see they loved each other but the big question her lawyer asked the court was if things were so bad then why did ryan invite shana over to his parents house the night before he died and in my mind i'm like how is that helping her self-defense case i i don't know okay and then it gets worse okay because shana's lawyers they then called to the stand christie shana's friend who was also a dentist because um investigators had found some very interesting texts between the two of them so shana had texted christie 10 days before the murder saying when i go to the shooting range with ryan tonight i want to turn around shoot him and kill him and play like it's an accident yeah shana had texted that to christy but christy swore up and down that it was nothing more than a joke like she was very team shana i think that's why they brought her to the stand to show like she's funny ha ha ha see everyone she was just kidding christy said they were just kidding i think that's what they were trying to do because i was there here like how does that help that does not help but then there was another text message uh and this was sent two days before the murder shana texted christy saying quote ryan has been begging me to ask if you could do his veneers please fuck them up and make him ugly so he'll never get another girl i hate him again i was like how is this helping her case i don't fucking know shana did not take the stand but a clinical psychologist that was like working with her in jail took the stand testified about her mental state saying that she was struggling with ptsd from the shooting and was like waking up in the middle of the night screaming which is just telling the court like see regret i don't know and then going on to say that shana had an iq of 125 which is above average but not Einstein level. I guess Einstein's IQ was around like 160. I hate when people brag about their IQ. It's like, who gives a shit? You're in jail. So obviously you're not that smart. Okay. If you were that smart, you would be out like doing math on a freaking whiteboard. You're in prison. The psychologist also told the court that he diagnosed Shana with two disorders, bipolar disorder and personality disorder with narcissistic features and he talked about her history of alcohol and prescription drug abuse as well then on april 23rd the closing arguments were made shana's team told the court that she was just defending herself against ryan under Kentucky's stand your ground law and that yes she may have been obsessed with him but that doesn't mean she was a murderer. Oh the prosecution argued that Shana was just a freaking liar okay and they brought out the blood-stained table and chair from Ryan's uh kitchen uh what do you call that? What do you call that area you sit in? Dining room. They brought in the bloodstained table and chair from his dining room. And they reenacted what they believed happened that night. So in their version, they believe that Shana grabbed the gun from the table, shot Ryan twice while he was like sitting down. He fell forward. He was twitching. And then she shot him four more times before his body fell to the floor. That's what they think happened. So the jury went and, you know, did their deliberations. And five hours later, they came back with a verdict. Shana Hubers was found guilty. And on August 14, 2015, the judge sentenced Shana to 40 years in prison with the possibility of parole after 20 years served. Now listen, you're about to click out of this video but it's not over no no it's not it keeps going because you think oh okay great case closed the end nope nay nay it's only just begun right after sentencing shana's lawyers you know they started to prepare an appeal while reviewing court records and footage one of her attorneys realized they recognized a face in the jury box they're like hey i know that guy Turns out one of the jurors in Shana's original trial was actually a convicted felon from a case that these lawyers had handled over a decade earlier. Meaning one of the jury members on Shana's original trial was a convicted felon. Now, this might not seem like a big deal, but this is exactly what Shana's team needed. because a convicted felon cannot legally serve on a jury. So with that discovery, the judge declared a mistrial, granting Shana a brand new trial. Boy, now obviously this is very exciting news to Shana. She's like, yay. So she sat in jail waiting for her next trial date. Jail life didn't seem too rough for Shana. in 2016 she met the love of her life she fell in love with another inmate named unique taylor who is a trans woman they dated for like two years and then the couple they applied for a marriage license through the campbell county clerk's office but when days went by and they got no response shana she reached out to the local news station saying that she and her fiance say were being discriminated against for not receiving their license. Now the news station agreed to do like an interview and met with Shana at the jail. While the reporter tried asking about her upcoming retrial, Shana, she dodged those questions and she steered everything back to her marriage request. Now eventually the journalist asked what many people were thinking like is this just a ploy for sympathy and shana insisted no no no it's all about love we just want to be together but listen it's the timing the timing was raising some eyebrows because during this time of like her interview and everything lgbtqia plus rights were dominating the headlines with several discrimination cases making major news really and there was also a major supreme court case that was happening at the same time. So it was making her interview feel less like a coincidence and more like a strategy. So after the interview aired, the clerk's office clarified the situation, saying that they had actually never denied Shana's request. It had only been like a few weeks and they simply, they just hadn't been, they hadn't processed it yet. So they were like, yeah, okay. and literally like not long after the license was granted and on June 7th of 2018 27 year old Shana Hubers married 41 year old Unique Taylor. So now married Shana once again prepared to step back into the courtroom. So Shana's team pushed to have the trial moved. They were arguing that her reputation was already destroyed and finding like a fair jury would be impossible. They also were trying to suppress the interrogation footage saying that her rights had been violated. Now these motions they dragged things out okay but ultimately the judge denied them both. So on August 14th 2018 the trial actually starts. Opening statements are made. Much of the same evidence and witnesses from the first trial returned but this time shana took the stand herself oh yes she did she sat up there looking all you know what when they come looking all like humble with like a cardigan and like i could never not i she was giving that her testimony focused a lot on her and ryan's sex life because she said that this was where their relationship really fell apart. She testified that whenever they had sex she really struggled reaching an orgasm and that Ryan was kind of an asshole about it. According to Shana Ryan would bring up her past sexual traumas and like blame her for not being able to have an orgasm and she's explaining to the court like you know he it made her feel bad he was like it was verbally abusive. Shayna also testified that Ryan would basically bribe her into like doing certain sex acts. Listen I believe this because he seems like this type. He promised to Shayna to post 10 pictures of them together on Facebook, give her more affection, and communicate with her more if and only if she agreed to a threesome this is what she's saying in court and according to shana she went along with it she went along with that deal because all she wanted was his love let me get this lip liner on hold on closing arguments felt like deja vu the prosecutor um even dragged out the blood-stained table again and did like the whole reenactment and again just after five hours of deliberation the jury came back with their verdict guilty of first degree murder but this time they recommended she receive life in prison her team really uh shouldn't have pushed for uh an appeal because they ended up getting a a worse outcome for her Before handing down his judgment, the judge said to Shana, your actions that evening were grossly violent and intentionally calculated to cause his death. And then he sentenced her to life in prison with the possibility of parole after serving 20 years. Now listen, a few months after being sentenced to life, Shana filed for divorce from Unique and it was granted. so was it for show i don't know but she was quick to do that it was like damn okay in 2020 shana's lawyers had filed yet another appeal saying the the media coverage was like way too heavy and certain evidence should have been tossed out but at this point again it just it feels like they're just grasping at straws and the appeals court upheld the conviction so where are they now shana she is now 34 years old and she's serving her time at a maximum security prison outside of lose loseville low loseville kentucky you guys are gonna roast me how you say it loseville love it louisville loseville she's in prison there okay and she won't be able to apply for parole until september of like 2032 that's it listen hi yes and that my friends is the exhausting freaking story case of shana hubers the so-called kentucky jody arias a woman whose obsession and need for control just turned deadly was it self-defense like she said or was it the ultimate punishment for like a boyfriend who just like wanted to leave you know at the end of the day Ryan Poston. He was 29 years old. You know, he had a future, friends, family, everything. And that was all taken from him because of, for what? Because of Shana. And it just left like the people who loved him the most with such a major loss. You know, it was just sad. I mean, the sad truth is that we may never really know what really like what happened that night, like how it all went down it's clear the relationship was toxic and shana was completely obsessed and yeah ryan was like an f-boy a little fuck boy but that doesn't mean he deserves to be murdered and remember how i mentioned um that kentucky law where it's like you couldn't get a restraining order unless like you live together or whatever well in 2016 kentucky passed a law creating what's called a interpersonal protective order. It's basically like a restraining order but specifically for victims of dating violence, stalking, or sexual assault. It can prohibit contact, require the abuser to stay away, and if they violate it they can be arrested. You know it's it's some improvement because like I mentioned earlier you only have to be married or living together. so that's changed but you and I know that like a lot of times restraining orders don't even they don't even work sometimes people don't really even follow them whatever but it's it's some improvement Bailey just say that yes anyways we made it thank you so much for hanging out with me today um I hope you have a good rest of your day be safe out there if you are being stalked or harassed don't be afraid to reach out and ask for help especially you men talking to you because sometimes you guys feel like you you don't want to you know you can handle it whatever but you also can reach out if you need help and you should wow bailey that was motivational i know i'm trying i hope you have a good rest of your day make a choices be safe out there i'll be seeing you guys later goodbye We'll see you next time.