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I am in West Palm Beach at the Players Summit, meeting up with some of my good men, having a good time. So, yes, we vibed up. Good, good, good. at least you decided to do the right thing and keep yourself right here in the States, your brother. That was, that was, that was very smart of you, but are we good? Can I hear if we good? Hit me and let me know if we good. You know what I mean? Excuse me. I think we, I think we might have our good man. We got our good man. Look here, man. We got a special guest today. Now, joining us right now is three-time pro bowler, two-time all-pro, Le'Veon Bell, the man that go whoop the brakes off somebody if he didn't stop ducking. Le'Veon, hey, hey, Juice, how you doing today, baby? Man, hey, man, I appreciate y'all having me, bro. B-Bow and Joe, shout out to y'all, man. Man, I appreciate y'all having me real talk. Hey, hey, hey, look here, man. It was some jibba-jabba going back and forth. one of them Paul boy was popping off at the mouth you said hey I'm here it looked like an initial duck get out the way don't let him get to me but then he made like he was coming back I really think what happened is he realized as soon as he said that you know what this dude can actually fight you know he got some power and he around my same size and ain't gonna be some little dude that I'm fighting you know what I'm saying and it's gonna be pretty embarrassing around my age when you're not getting too old so I mean that's what I think. Why do you think he initially was, was dunking you, bro? Man, he initially ducked. I knew, let me tell you how I knew he's going to duck. Let me tell you how I originally knew. I originally knew right away when he was naming, in the interview, right? He was naming all the NFL, man, I'll knock out, I'll fight Tom Brady. I'll fight Gronkowski. I'll throw out on Miles Garrett. I'll be throwing out on Miles Garrett, right? So he's, he's saying all this stuff, bro. I'm like, I'll bet. But he named all these players. And Logan knows I fight. Like, we both fought on Misfits promotion before. Like, he knows that I fight. But he made sure Le'Veon Bell's name wasn't said. He was making sure, yeah, name all these other guys. Boom, boom, boom. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You want to fight NFL players, Logan? No, you know I'm the one who got training. I'm the one who actually do this. What's up? Let's do it in Pittsburgh. That's where Le'Veon Bell, OK, made the name. Right? let's do it in Pittsburgh because the first NFL draft in like I don't know like 50, 60 years perfect time it's like the and all these NFL players gonna be there that you swear that you're just so much tougher than bro come knock out somebody or come beat somebody who actually do this in front of all the NFL people he's like okay first he say no like nah bro lay down bro you ain't no draw plus you can actually fight by some time I was like it's like hold up no no no he ain't say you can actually fight no no no No, no, no. I think that's what he said the first one. That's what I saw. He said, no, you can fight. And I was like this. Oh, you don't want to fight somebody that really got hands? He's like, you're not in the field. That's what it was. He's like, Tom Brady not in the league. Fight Le'Veon. Tom Brady not in the league. Gronk not in the league. AB not in the league. Y'all naming all these dudes who not in the league. So now you try to move the goalpost the first time trying to say I wasn't in the league or whatever. But Eric, I love that the internet. They don't let them slide past them. No, at all. like you were just talking about tom brady though like why you talking about like tom but he wanted to fight somebody he wanted to fight somebody who not necessarily trained in that yes and don't get me wrong i feel like if football players come over to boxing and train i think like football players like the best athletes in the world you know i'm saying so i think the transition for football players would be a lot easier to box but let's be realistic it would definitely need training and a lot of practice in the gym, bro, because boxing is completely different cardio-wise, cardio-vacuum-wise. So, Myles Garrett or somebody that come in there first time, they're going to gas out in the first minute, two minutes, bro. You know what I'm saying? Versus somebody who actually knows how to throw a punch. Somebody who actually knows how to defend herself without exerting too much energy. You know what I'm saying? And Logan knows that. So, he's trying to finagle a big name in a football, and beat him up. Like, just beat up a football player like how Jake do. Jake want to beat up Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson old as hell. A lot of people are like, man, this fight was rigged. Bro, it's not rigged. It's only rigged in the fact that Mike Tyson is 60 years old, bro. So what can y'all expect Mike Tyson to do at 60? Imagine, bro, imagine racing. Bro, if I race Usain Bolt, if I got my son, I race Usain Bolt when he's 60. Bro, oh, yeah. I beat the fastest man in the world, though. Yeah, bro. Usain Bolt's 60, though. But I can beat him in a race. Like, bro, come on, man. let's be real let's be real so you sitting there saying hey logan like man i'm an athlete it's that dirt well get in the ring with an athlete then get in the ring with an athlete that actually does this right you know i'm saying don't try to call out somebody who don't do it i feel like and then he said bro y'all know what the word throttle means because i had to like look it up i literally had to do it y'all know what throttle means bro he's still full of shit he said he will basically choke out miles garrett but i would literally pay for that shit hold up like you go the room with Miles Garrett, I guarantee you you're not fucking choking him out. I don't give a fuck. But he tried to change it. Listen to the interview. He tried to say like, oh, boxy match. Boxy match. He tried to change it. Like, no, you said throttle. You would throttle, Miles Garrett. Bro, you know what Miles Garrett would do with you in the room? Y'all try to wrestle with a single. Fuck you up, bro. But then he tried to change it. He tried to change it to a boxy match. So as soon as he changed it to a boxy match, no, no, I'm not letting that slide. Okay, if you want to box, then box me. So this is what I want to know. It was said that at some point that y'all was actually talking. Was there talks going on that it was an actual chance that it was going to be a fight until he had his boss call and be like, hey, get me out of this so I don't get my ass whooped? We're doing the back and forth on the internet. People kind of see in the back and forth, but he sends the DM. He sends the DM like, send me the email for the contract. Bro, the moment I see the DM, it was like an hour later. The moment I see the DM, send him my email. Oh yeah, send it. Boom. No response. Once he's sending, no response. I was going to give him 24 hours before I start calling him out again. I'm going to give him 24 hours. Bro, I ain't got no contract. If it's 24 hours, I ain't got no contract. But I was like, you know what? It's a weekend. It's Sunday. I'm going to give him to Monday. Give him to Monday. Before Monday come, now he got a mysterious phone call. First of all, you never drew up the contract either. Y'all know when he got the phone call from the WWE, Chris, whoever Chris is from WWE, right? He got the phone call. He like, man, I can't fight. He's like, man, I had the fight drawn up. He's like showing the camera, but he don't show the camera. He's like, so he had a contract drawn up, but he never shows. I'm like, bro, you ain't had no fucking contract drawn up. You fool of shit. You fool of shit. You fucking scared the whole time. He already do. He's going to find a way to duck it. So he has somebody call in. Hey, look, no matter what, tell me nothing. No matter what, I can't, I can't have, I can't have, I can't go over there and have this man put his hands on me. I just can't. At all. Bro, it went from bro let's fight to okay let's spar to like okay let's spar you gotta bet a million dollars i'm gonna tell you what happened he didn't think he either thought i was gonna say no he didn't think you had to put up a million dollars or he ain't think i had it it's one or two he thought i was gonna say no or he thought i wasn't gonna be able to put the money up when i was when he million dollars bet bet it i'll be there just understand no judges though listen man i'm trying to tell you right now this boy gonna deny all this man you're gonna have to have you guys have have some backup on that to prove that that's what happened bro he gonna try and deny all this what deny what he can't deny it you got some receipts i know you got the receipts it's hella receipts it's on everything on the internet yeah for sure like everything i got hella receipts hella receipts oh bro i'm about to let him off the hook i'm about to keep it i'm about to stay in his head the whole fucking time bro you're gonna have to say something bro because he like bro you can't just go silent after like oh yeah my boss is called and everybody I know you're full of shit. Bro, you faked the fucking phone call, bro. Hey, they just happened to be recording. Hey, they ain't going to let me. Hey, record me on this because I can't. Hey, listen. What? Who? I can't. I'm too valuable. What? Huh? Oh, I want to do it. No. Trash. Trash. He said the craziest coincidence. I just happened to be live. They called me while I'm live. Man, look. Man, I see you talking about sparring. Hold on. What he's trying to say is... They said you can't go work out. Because that's all we do. We sparring. He's not even a fight. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Low and low, like, it just doesn't make sense to me. Because I'm like, I understand a regular, a real fight. It's a sparring match. Can he not go spa? Like, is this a rule where you can't go do nothing? I'm like, I see him. He spars all the time. You can practice. You can't practice. You can't practice. Not with Le'Veon Bell, he can't. Not with Le'Veon Bell, because he thinks he might hit him inside the head. I don't know. You know why? You know why? Because they don't want him to slip and fall and hurt himself. Bro, he posted a video with Bradley Martin. Bro, them dudes wrestling and throwing each other off the wall and shit. I posted it. Bro, I'm posting all this shit, bro. If everybody's watching, bro, go to my Twitter. I'm posting everything. Posting all this fool of shit and letting y'all know, bro, it's just clearly a duck and lying fool of shit. The WWE ain't called, but they don't care about him fighting. Why they ain't care about Brock Lesnar fighting in UFC? Why they ain't care about him? They let Brock Lesnar fight. They said Lesnar could win. They say, uh-uh, you can't win this. Uh-uh. They let Logan Paul fight Dylan Dennis. Logan Paul fought Dylan Dennis while he's with WWE. Logan could fight Dylan Dennis, but Logan can't fight NFL players slash Le'Veon Bell. Not even fight. You can't even sparring. You can't even practice with him. You can't even practice. So he shouldn't be able to do none of that heavy wrestling that's outside of WWE. No sparring. I don't even know if he should be able to lift weights over his head if that's the case. He might slip it off. Wow. You get what I'm trying to say? I get what you're saying. You're basically saying he can't do nothing. I wonder who he was talking to. It's Chris. Hey, Chad, find out who Chris is in the WWE if he got any pull. We can figure that out. I know we can. He said... He said the boss has called, bro. I'm like, my whore, is that Triple H? He didn't even give a name. I thought I was looking up in... He said the boss has called. I'm like, who? I'm like, Triple H? Triple H called you and Bruce Springsteen. No. The boss was calling. Triple H is the boss. It must have been Triple H. It had to be Triple H from the phone. Why wouldn't I say Triple H calling? But Triple H's name ain't Tris. It damn sure ain't. It damn sure ain't. It damn sure ain't. So it's like, nigga, what you mean? The Boston is calling, bro. Who? Who's calling you, fam? We got to find out one out. I don't know the hype. Hey, it's homeboy Chris saying, hey, man, get me up out of this, man. Say you WW exec. Chris, man, Chris fooling shit too, bro. Chris fooling shit, bro. Hey, but Chris, hey, Chris a real friend, bro. Chris a real friend. Hey, look, whatever you need, we going to keep you out of this ring from this dude, man. Whatever you need, man. I know you want to get in there with somebody old or somebody that can't really train, but we going to leave you out of this one, man. We're going to try to, just so we can keep you in great, great faces. Like, ain't like you ducked. We're going to just make it seem like you can't do it. No, no, no, no, no. No, we see right through that. We know you're an actor. We know you're an actor. That's why you do YouTube. That's why you do wrestling. Because you're a good actor. I just want to say this skit was very, very, very terrible. It was a terrible skit. Like, the acting was terrible. You feel me? Like, trash acting. I want my money back from this movie. Like, straight up, I need a refund. I need a refund. Actually, Logan owed me a million dollars, bro. You made the bet, bro. Then you're going to just back out, bro. You make the bet, then you go back out. By default, you have lost. Logan been running around. Oh, man, Floyd Mayweather owe me a million dollars. He owe me a million and a half dollars for my fight. No, no, no. Logan you owe me a million dollars Now Logan you owe me a million dollars If Floyd owe you you owe me Yep Tell Floyd tell Floyd send me that 1 This way Yeah straight up Yeah, I'm going to get this 1.5 for Floyd. Like, straight up. You come get it from me, Logan. Yeah. Now, that's how we do it. I like that. I like that. That's how we do it. I like that. You know what I'm saying? Run me my bread. That's how we do that. Come get it in blood. How you want it? Man, yeah, Logan Paul on a duck, give me fucking Jake Paul. Give me fucking Chris Paul. Give me fucking Paul Pierce. Give me fucking Paul through. Hey, man, just leave it. You can't be going after all the pause. There's only two of them. Anybody named Paul. Anybody named Paul. Anybody the initials PG. I don't care if it's Sean Paul. Bro, Paul George. Bro, send him. Send him, bro. Send him. Hey. Send him my way, bro. Hey, Dion. I'm going to tell you this. I love the energy. I love the energy because I know it's legit. You're not playing because you be in the ring. I'm not playing. Like, when you're talking about trying to fight football dudes, I'm like, y'all don't play football. Y'all don't play boxing. Niggas know how to play. Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious Black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. 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I seen what you did to one of our GOATs. And I almost tore my whole man ACL, PCL, MCL when Adrian, when AP went there. That was real time. That was real time. You did that. I bought you. That was for my guy, Will Gay, to be honest with you, man. He stepped on gay chest. Man, AP did something vicious to Will Gay over there, man. He stepped on that man chest, man. did the gorilla yell on him got up and I was so mad I didn't know what to do so we get back we get back into like Monday we watching the film and we got a trophy sitting in the trophy room man and it's a dude getting ran over he getting like his foot put on the chest and all that and I'm like hey gay man they took the snapshot and made this sure did sure did AD did my man dirty AD did him dirty Yeah, AP did. So, yeah, you know how to slide up on AP, bro. And Logan, bro, you know what? That's not even a fight that scared Logan. My fight, two fights after that is the one that scared Logan. So, it was a fight. I'm fighting this dude named J.O.M.X. on Misfits, right? I'm fighting him. The winner of that fight got Logan Paul. Because Logan was like, yeah, I want to fight the winner of that. I want to fight the winner. This is, like, two years ago. This is in 2024, 2023, three years ago, right? I fight the dude, J.O.M.X. I beat him, like, convincingly, like, bad. Like, J-Lex barely survived. I'm supposed to fight Logan next. Logan see that fight, he instantly, like, ducks. But at this time, I'm not really calling him out on crazy, you know what I'm saying? So he's been running for about three years now. That's what I heard. Bro, when he was saying, when he was talking about all the names fighting football players, he was trying his hardest not to say Le'Veon Bell. They said Antonio Brown. That nigga instantly started saying somebody instantly, because they started to get close. Like, that name. don't say the bees get away from that black and gold getting close to the bees Logan Paul was like don't say the word Le'Veon don't say Le'Veon Bell then he start acting like he entertaining it oh yeah bro he thought I was going to say no to the 10 ounce 10 ounce gloves and no headgear he thought I was going to say no to that because we sparring cool if you want to do that I'm not going to be getting hit. You're the one going to be getting hit. I'm not going to be saying it. Yeah, so he thought I was going to say no to that, but he don't understand, bro. I'm so confident in my ability and in this boxing shit. And plus, athletically speaking, bro, I done played with the best athletes in the fucking world, bro. So like, quickness-wise or reaction-wise, bro, I'm telling you, I'm getting here with all these boxers and shit, bro. It's not even close, bro. Like, because football is like, bro, D-Bug, me and you, we mean right here. we gonna keep going until somebody stops like until somebody stops but like everybody's mindset not like that in boxing somebody get punched ooh shit then he hit like that I want dang they hit hard enough you know who you got you know how you got check his gloves check his gloves he ain't got no patent in there yeah check his gloves the same the same way with football y'all know y'all be seeing people be like oh yeah he ain't really on that he turn this shit down it's the same with boxing bro it's the same Once you get the skill up, you start seeing like, oh, yeah. Why he's just doing his body heating like that? He running. He running the whole time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that comes with experience and just being in there. You know what I'm saying? Logan knows that. Literally, he knows that. So he'll call somebody out who don't really have the understanding that. It's so much more than physicality in boxing. You know what I mean? Let me ask you a question before we get you out. I know you got a time limit on you. Hey, so Clarissa Shields said that she could, she said she could be the perfect person I wanted to ask. Thank you, Evo. So with that being said, before I show a video, I'm going to prefix it with what she said, I guess, on Nightcap, that he didn't have any padding in his gloves. But this is a guy that Romeo, he whooped on and she got put down. Show the video. We got the video? Please. yeah I know what clip y'all talking about, you play it real quick we can talk through it, let me see it ooh y'all playing it? yeah man, play it see ooh, did you see that Le'Veon? so look, I love Carissa, I legitimately think she's the best female fighter no question, right? but she tripping, she tripping bro, Roley, I understand I know what she's saying. Everything she says the reason why I love her is because she really believes it. She really believes it. I see what she said. It makes sense in her head. It makes sense, but I don't think she's trying to realize when he hits you, that shit going to feel different than when any other woman hits you. That shit going to feel different when no head girl in an actual fight. That shit going to feel different. I love Perseille. She might see this and she might think I'm talking about, but I'm not at all. Like, I feel like she's one of the greatest fighters in our generation, female fighters for sure. But, yeah, especially Roley. Like, Roley, bro, he unorthodox, but he's like that. Like, Roley like that, bro. I done looked at some of his stuff. Like, he putting cats down left, right, left, right. I'm like... Bro, Roley can fucking punch, bro. Like, people get confused because he went against Tank, and Tank is just next level. Tank is level. Right. Yes. Like, Tank is just next level. So Tank is like, okay, I'm going to take advantage of your aggressiveness. I'm going to step back. Let you run in, uppercut. I'm out of here. He ran right into the ropes. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if, of course, the Shields got that reaction. Boom. I'm going to knock him out. Because if you don't knock him out, Rowling is coming. I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming the entire time. You got to knock him out. Did you see the girl? Did you see the girl she just fought? Le'Veon. The big girl. And they was in there throwing punches. So I'm respecting Alicia Shield too. I think she's the best female fighter out there. But I'm like, when that other girl is giving her them punches and she's eating them, I'm like, how many of them big boy joints are you going to eat? Yes. You ain't getting out of the way of nothing. I don't know. I don't know. She's not eating those. She's not eating those. And that's what I'm saying. It's just a different strength. It's like, that's just why you don't. That's only... Yeah, she's not really understanding because she's just thinking like female fighting. Okay, I fight at 185. Yeah, I'm welcome. If I'm fighting a girl, If I find a girl at 147, what I would do to her? She's not realizing, bro. Bro, Roley has a different, he's a man. He has a different energy. I'm talking just actual, like, biological. He's a professional. I'm talking about, bro, D-Bo. It's density of bones, dude. I'm talking about the jab to the body. Bro, you know how if I punch you to your fucking stomach, how that's going to hurt her, bro? If Roley punched her to the stomach, not even knocking her out, just punch her to the stomach. You know how hard that's going to do, bro? She's going to do that and not want to fight no more. Like, she's not going to be... You ever got the... Yes. That's what it feels like. But you still got to sit there and fight. Like, bro, she's not about to keep taking that. Nope. Nah, bro, I... But I love Percy Shields, though. I think she's the best fighter. Oh, no question. I was the best fighter. But when you start, you know, trying to go into, like, fighting the dude, and actually does that, like, and doing it at a high level, that's... I don't think that's smart, man. Mm-hmm. She said Roley's unorthodox. He is. But he's still like that. He's still like that. Yeah. He's just unorthodox. He's unorthodox. You know what I'm saying? But he's still, bro. Brody got skill, bro. People say he don't got skill. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. He's just not as skilled as Gervonta. It's still levels. Don't get me wrong. Gervonta's been, you know. It's like football. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got corners, first team ball pro. You got Joe. You got James Harrison, LVPs. You know what I'm saying? But you got people who are still in the field, but I'm just maybe not that level. But you're still in the field. You're still in the league. You still in the league? That's what I be telling people. Like the same thing when they be talking about basketball. Oh, man, he trashed. I said, man, you couldn't do nothing with that dude. Man. Find him at the rack. You was sitting on the bench at no time. You couldn't do nothing with him. The dude that ain't dressed on the field for us that's sitting there undressed, you couldn't do nothing with him. No. You want no smoke. Bro. At all. Because, look, Logan Paul talking about some, man, yeah, I'll throttle. I'll knock out any fighter. Bro, imagine him trying to run around him, Joe. I would bet my bottom dollar he doesn't catch one ball yes like you won't catch one ball this is why we just like athletes it's like different it's like okay if you don't really know how to run a route Logan you're not gonna fucking catch a fucking path with Joe Hayden it's the same with boxing it's like bro he's in a truck car and I'm like no bro fight somebody at a train like yeah shit weird but both both of them would be doing weird stuff like that they make it that's why the Jake Paul and Tyson Mike Tyson everybody was saying it's not rigged in the fact that Mike Tyson let him win. I think Mike Tyson really in there trying. He just old. He old. I knew I wasn't tripping. I knew I wasn't tripping. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's trying. He's trying. He fight his gun because he mad he's hitting. I feel like Mike let him live a little bit, man. His own. What I saw in the training and what I saw in the... That fatigue... Bro, listen. I'm telling you... Fatigue make chumps out of everybody. I'm telling... Everybody. I'm telling you, bro. When you get tired and you can't lift up your arms, you look weak. People don't felt it. People ain't felt it. You ain't in there and felt it before you ain't gonna know. But Mike Tyson, bro, I'm like, he's trying, bro. I promise you, he is trying. The nigga just 60. He thinks he's 21. He thinks he's still going in there and do that shit. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna fight Jake Palmer going to knock him out. But realistically, bro, them knees and that explosion Mike had with Mayhem special, he ain't got that no more. He gonna give you them 30 seconds, that little 15 second clip on TikTok where he come in that joint Hey, that's what I was looking at, bro. Then he's glowed. He's done. That's all he got. That's all he got. Y'all better, there's no more camera. That man Mike, he did it for 15 seconds, and now he's like this. He's getting H2O. He's getting fucking oxygen. I forgot all about those. I forgot all about those. Yeah. Bro, I wish I was there. I'm like this. Oh, shit. Everybody like, oh, you see Mike moving all fast? I like yeah he got 10 more seconds It so crap I wish I was there when they were doing the book cut I want to know how much time he took to rest before he came back, bro. Bro, that shit got me weird. That's all he had. He was exhausted. Lay me on. Damn, man. Y'all killing me, man. Y'all killing me with this shit, man. Mike Tyson was really in that bitch. I'm like, bro, that nigga for sure. I was watching the clip saying the same shit, bro. Nigga went out there round one, was out there for a minute, man, nigga, get tired. I'm like, man, let me tell you, Jake ain't as good as everybody think he is because Jake was, it was after the fight. He get in the interview. He like, yeah, I see Mike Tyson. He wasn't who he was, you know, so I was just trying to let him off easy. No, he wasn't. He was trying to knock Mike out. You think so? Bro, go watch the... I thought you let him live a little bit. I thought he let him... No! No! No? You know what? I'm going to pull up with y'all. We can watch it together. I'm going to show you. Bro, he was trying to sleep Mike. He was trying to sleep Mike, bro. Okay, okay. Yes. I need to watch it again. Jake ain't as good as everybody thinks. He should have stopped Mike. Mike is 60. He should not be in there and be the last eight rounds with you. But he wasn't good enough to stop Mike. That's all it was. He wasn't good enough to stop him. But he was trying. Bro, why is Jake trying to, bro, Mike Tyson's 60. Mike Tyson was ducking some shit. Hey, listen. I saw you something. I was like, oh, Lord. I saw you. Okay, I see you welling up on that shit. I believe that. Like, God damn. You know what I'm saying? Okay. But, like, no, Jake was trying to sleep, Mike, bro. That guy lost in the wash. Like, oh, man. Like, Jake was trying to let him eat. No, no, no, no. Jake was fucking trying to sleep, Mike. Everybody got Netflix. Go back and watch it. I'm going to go back and watch it. Yeah. shit bro hey let me ask you quick before we get you out of here I know you gotta you gotta hit the gym what do you think of the McCarthy hired for the Steelers hello that boy wifi went out did wifi go out no bro let me be honest he said he said what hello alright bro it is what it is bro I ain't gonna say I'm not going to say I'm ecstatic about it, but it's cool. It's cool. It's like, it's cool. Hey, listen, I give you how I felt. I give you how I felt. I'm good with it now. I'm on it. I'm on it now because I believe that he's there because he truly cares. He understands what it is to be a stealer, a true stealer, like what it is, what that legacy is, what it is all about. it's about Lombardi's. It's about winning championships and that's the first thing that he was talking about. And I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. Like, when he first started crying, I told, I texted Joe, I said, man, I said, does this nigga cry? What the fuck? You know what I'm saying? He was from the city. He got a passion and what I'm seeing right now, especially with Omar being able to Omar and GM like he should be able to GM, you see what he's doing. This has been the most active free agency that you have seen ever since 2000-whatever, since the Steelers have started. And that is a big part of Omar and his vision and what he sees and how he approaches. Normally, we go and we keep the guys that we have and we sign them under contract. But we can't do it because we done missed over the last 10 years on our first and second rounders. And we've only been able to keep two. With that being the case, he done got a position. He's now able. It's a collective that they use where you can now go and say, you know what? We got this. We got that. Let's get this. Let's get that. And right now, dude, I'm loving what he is doing. I'm telling people, I've been telling people, give this man three years and judge him from this point forward. And I promise you, you're going to see Omar Khan GM the way that I knew he could from the very beginning. I think Omar is definitely the problem. And to be honest, bro, I didn't think Tomlin was the problem. But I feel like them switching, look, this culture change, maybe it's needed, maybe it's not. I just feel like if you're going from Tomlin to Mike McCarthy, it's them, their tomato tomatoes, like kind of the same shit. I would understand that as far as the coach goes, but this is the thing you don't understand as far as the inside. Ben said the same thing. The shift of power that Tomlin had was enormous in his last 10 to 12 years. What do you mean by that? As far as who you drafted, where you drafted them, who you kept, who you let go. Okay. So in the last 12 years, what's that got to do with Tomlin and Mike McCarthy? So the coach is the same. True statement. But now you're allowing your GM to GM to get players that everybody as collective feels can do it and not a single person saying, And, yeah, I know they're saying he a three, but I think he's a one. So let's get him. Hold on. So who are you saying was doing that? Tomlin? We're saying Tomlin had the last call on what it was that he wanted to do as far as draft. So he had, like, the last final thing. Oh, yes. He could overrule. I mean, you could have to ruin whatever. He was final word. I know for sure all you got to do is look at anywhere from about – I would say it started to switch around that 14 to 16 range. And from there, it was just bloom. Look, I will say the culture change was needed. I do. The Mike McCarthy one, you kind of talking me into it a little bit. I'm starting to see a different side of it. Originally, I didn't like it. Look at the coaches he brought in. Look at the coaches McCarthy has brought in. I'm interested to see how it goes. You know what I'm saying? I just don't want we go out here and then we go nine and eight. And then it's like, okay, what the fuck? I believe this. I believe that we're going to have a subpar year. If we don't, if things don't pan out at the quarterback position, once we're able to correct that, we can't correct that right now. We can't. I don't think Tom, I don't think it was a top thing with the quarterback. I think we need a quarterback, a solidified quarterback. And I think once we got that, I think everything kind of falls into place. But think about it. The person who's touching the ball every single player is the quarterback, bro. If this shit ain't working, like, then, of course, we're going to look, you know what I'm saying, unorthodox. We look terrible on offense. We got to eat some consistency here. We also got to be able to stop people on defense. You telling me that defense all of a sudden couldn't stop nobody? Or did they change the dynamics of what that defense was doing? Y'all both play defense. Y'all know a little better. Yes, the scheme was changed, brother. when I'm on offense, I consist with defense getting tired. So we out there all the time, but I know defensive players is getting tired. You know what I'm saying? Tell him how these corners was doing, man. Week in and week out. The basics. They weren't being taught the basics, bro. But is that... It has to be taught because everybody's doing it. Yeah. What do you mean the basics, bro? Stop. Joe, was it like that when you were there? I mean, No, I mean. He was a pro bowl all time, a Hall of Fame corner. Joe knew what to do. Yeah, I know. Hey, Joe, tell me this. He said Joe know what to do. Were you actually taught anything and developed, I mean, to a greater extent that you could say, yeah. Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside. It was like stepping on another world. 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I know a lot of shit, but I'm saying the way that we studied tape and the way that he prepared me to go into the game, I knew what they was about to do. Let's repeat how you felt about your position coach then, Joe. The position coach? When I had Coach Scrapp there, well, when I had Cornell Lake, Coach Lake, amazing coach. When Lake got up out of there, he left with his son, then we had my man Scrapp that came in there. Not good. I love Coach Lake. Coach Lake, that man. The next coach we had, Scrappy, he got out of there after the year. He wasn't that good. And that's where it was just we needed our coaching staff to be on the same page. They were kind of just talking a little different languages. You know what I'm saying? It's not a little different language. And you know A is A and A should be A no matter if your DB coach is telling you. If your linebacker coach is telling you. If that's what the person you play, that's what it should be. And then when you go in there and you try and change certain parts of a defense, you can't change certain parts of a defense to cover up one weakness because you create two or three other ones. It's the same thing if y'all do it on offense to say, hey, we go pick up this dude with so-and-so. And then they bring something else. You're creating more weaknesses when you got to say, you know what, if this happens, chalk it up to the defense or the quarterback got to see it and get it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a lot of that going on on defense with the switching of new guys. I don't really fully understand the whole schematics on defense. Y'all understand that way better than me. So I'll just be watching. Like, what the fuck? Why is he going to open up? You know what I'm saying? He shouldn't be open. And I feel y'all. And Coach Tyler was more defensive-minded. Y'all know way more what's going on. So I can definitely hear y'all's side of it. And hearing y'all saying this, it's like, yeah, y'all are right. So tell me this. If he's defensive-minded and all that is happening, what's going on? and i feel you i feel you that's why i like i i agree a culture change was needed i'm just saying mike mccarthy is like was he the one because you know i'm saying that's the only thing listen a head coach is to put people in positions to enforce and teach yours that's why when you get as a head coach as a head coach you go and you create you go ahead and you make and you you You get your staff together. A head coach should be as least hands-on as possible because he's going to get the people he know can do the job so that he don't have to sit there and micromanage. When you want to micromanage, you don't go and create people that go and do what you do. You create people that sit where you're at, and then when the time comes, they move laterally to another spot and never go and make more of you because they don't know what it is you do because all you do is manage them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get exactly what you're saying. I get exactly what you're saying. I follow that. That's why, look, I'm out against the culture change, bro. We just going, I'm eager to see how it goes. Yes. Because Mike McCarthy's offensive-minded. He's offensive-minded. So it's like the problem with the defense, and we going to see. Like, I get somebody in there defensively. That knows what's going on. Yeah, that knows what's going on. That's where it is. And shit, don't it come down, bro? We need some niggas to step up, though. Yes. Yeah, that's what it is. It's like we need them captains and them leaders over there to step up, too. You know what I'm saying? I feel like from the beginning of the season, it was always like, oh, is Cam going to play? Is he not going to play? Is TJ going to play? Is he not? I feel like there's a whole bunch of up and downs. Like, shit, that shit starts from the beginning of the season. Like, but it's starting now. Shit, with OTAs and training camp or mini camp come up, we're going to see, bro. I'm excited, though. Like, I'm going to see what Mike McCarthy got, bro. I wasn't opposed or I wasn't for it at first, but now I'm not opposed hearing y'all out. We're going to see how it goes. I love hearing different perspectives, you know what I mean? We got to give him a little bit of time. You know what I'm saying? And like you said, since he's the head coach, he's the offensive coach. We're going to have to get you back on later this year once things get going. We got to, Lady Young. Or not facts. We got to make it happen. Yeah for sure man Hey man I going to let you get up out of here I know you got to hit the gym man Appreciate you coming on man Appreciate you man I appreciate y bro Ladies and gentlemen chat Give it up for him Hey much love Hey, y'all keep doing y'all thing, bro. Y'all keep standing, bro. Man, thank you, brother. I've been watching y'all. Y'all be doing y'all thing, bro. Appreciate it. I love y'all's content, bro. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on, brother. I will talk. You're going to tap in with you, brother. All right, much love, bro. I'm going to see. I'm going to go hit this gym, bro. Get prepared. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Get ready. Get right. Stiff looking big beaters for that boy and put them all over his head. Little dread. What's going on to the people, man? Little cardio, too. All right, now. You already know. All right, Joe. Joe, man. Yes, sir, brother. I told you he was ducking. W's in the chat for Le'Veon Bell, man. That's a good man right there. No question, brother. That's a good man. Look here, man. As I said, the Steelers making moves, man. Yes. The GM, Omar Khan, is GMing right now, man. Let that man cook. He's being able to do what it is that they put him in position to do. And this has been the most active free agency that the Steelers have had in I don't know how long. You know, like the history of the Steelers probably since probably since the 70s. Let that man cook. Listen, I didn't even think that we was going to get Michael Pittman Jr., dude. We ended up getting Pittman Jr. after they went on ahead and they said they was going to retain Alec Pierce. They gave that man a four-year, $116 million deal. And then shortly after, they said, hey, listen, the big thing, Joe, that I said about Pittman is I was like, yo, I like it, but I don't like the number. I said, I don't like the number of the $29 million. I said, he only got one year left on the deal. So if we get him, we got to make sure we don't give up much, and then we got to get him with a deal. And what we do, Joe— 19-9 sounds good. Late. We get him with a late pick, Joe. A late—and it's a swap at that, Joe. It's a swap at that. And then we sign him to a three-year, 59. So now the 29 ain't 29, Joe. No, it's not. It's 19— We get that big five, 6-4-225. Catch anything around him. I see you, Omar. You like that, Joe? Joe, do you like that? You pair him with DK, Joe. Where we at in the AFC North as far as the receiving core? Where we at with that duo, Joe? Oh, in the North? In the North with two. In the North with two. In the North with two, because after Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, obviously, Raven's not messing with us, with their receivers. and, you know, my good old Browns right now, you know, we don't have any – we have Judy, but right now the Steelers with DK Metcalf and Michael Pittman Jr. are looking like the second best in the North. You know, behind Chasen Higgins, but we got – now we got DK. And coming off of last year too, DK being two years ago DK, I would have been feeling a little bit better. And he's going to be all right? He's going to be all right? No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. I believe in DK. I know that he wants to go out and go crazy again. And with the suspension and all that stuff, he's a baller. And that's what he does is go hoop. So if he goes out there and beats the DK Metcalf that I know and love that we signed for the 30 mil a year that we're expecting to get, beautiful. Michael Pittman Jr., I loved him because big receiver, and he's a non. You don't hear nothing about him. He's quiet. He's not saying nothing. He's work pale. He's boots. He's coming to work every day to grind and get the job done. So when you have him on your team, a solid number two, and I heard about my man Pat McAfee, he was pissed that the cost lost him because, you know, he was pissed on ESPN dropping the big F-bombs. Hey, hey, I didn't want to say the F. I didn't want to say F. Yeah, he went hard. Because I'm like, he like this. He wanted to give him the respect that people were signing out, dudes on the team, being late to meet, and some dudes just weren't doing. He's like, Pittman, you were never that guy. You're going to be there on time. You're going to work hard, dive through a wall for a catch anytime, no matter what. So we need those dudes. We need those hardworking kind of guys that are going to bring that, bring that demeanor to the offensive side of the ball too. So I'm loving that, Bob. I'm loving that. Receiver was a position that we needed. We're talking about it. Everybody keeps saying, oh, no, what about the draft? Are y'all over? No, no, no. So now we're making moves and doing things that we need to do. So guess what? Thank you. Clap it up for Omar. You know what I'm saying? If we wouldn't have gotten nobody and everybody's looking crazy, no. Hey, we can clap it up. We can clap it up for sure. Listen, we got a big body. Come on. He can catch anything around him. He attacks the ball. He is a good route runner. And guess what? he also is a blocker too. Now, with that being said, we still got the draft. We can still go get a burner, Joe. Still got so much left. Because all them boys was burners, Joe. We still got that. Clap it up, Chad. Come on. Listen, stop playing with me. He wasn't done. Joe. He's not done. Joe, he ain't done. He ain't done. Rico. We went on here and said, hey, man, we go get – I like this one. I was trying to think about this one. I wasn't understanding this one, but I sat back. Rico Dowdle or what is it? Dowdle? Rico Dowdle? Yes. Okay. So we went and got him, signed a two-year $12.5 million. Okay. Now, Joe, like I said, I didn't understand it at first. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, yo, why are we signing this dude? I'm like, okay, we lost Gainwell. So, yeah, we need to pick something up. But I'm like, at that, you know. So, I'm looking and I'm thinking. And you know what? I said, okay. I see now he's familiar with McCarthy's offense. He was with him over there in Dallas in 24. Okay. This man got two back-to-back thousand-yard seasons. You know what? I'm like, yo, what does this mean for Jalen Warren, though, Joe? Like, what do you think it means for Jalen Warren? I don't think it mean nothing. I don't think it means nothing, Joe. This is what I think it means. We need two to tango. Listen, I think it means this. The Steelers are saying, here's my signal. We are going to run the ball. We're getting back to Steeler football. We're going to pound the ball. We got two guys that are down here, runners. They are very similar in running styles. One is almost 6'2", the other one, a little bowling ball, about 5'9", 215. and he getting it to him, bruh. Mike McCarthy is saying we're going to dedicate this. We're going to run the ball. We're going to be dedicated to running the ball. He went out and got two of them that do the same, so it ain't going to be much of a difference when you switch them in and out. Literally, I love – Split between two. Split between two. Making sure Warren don't get too beat up, Rico don't get too beat up. They're going to be fresh. When they get in there, they're coming off running downhill. I love the way Jalen Warren hits the hole so hard. The same way Rico hits the hole when he was playing for Carolina. So us being able to get him for the $6 million a year. These running backs, my man, what did, um, what did, Kenna Walker, he just got like 15 something a year. He got 15 million a year. No disrespect, but us at Rico that's toting that pill hard as he can for six, and that's an $8 million difference. I'm not saying he's a Kenneth Walker, but I'm saying when you get an established running back that's 2,000 yards back-to-back, and you know what kind of guy you're getting, downhill, no bull, and you got Jalen Moore, that's ripe. That's exactly what we need for the team. That energy. That you got a blocking receiver. You got a crazy strong running back. I'm loving the moves. They're early. And it's not crazy, Brad. You're not just over and paying these dudes. No, we got Rico. Rico could have made eight. Rico could have had eight million, eight million a year. But we went and got him for six. You know what I'm saying? Or Pittman, 29. Now let's go get him for the 19. Like, what? these are great players at great deals that are coming to the team trying to go win. They're happy that they got their bag. We're happy that we feel like we got over a little bit. Not over, but we didn't have to overpay. They got a good deal, man. And we got balls. They got a good deal. Everybody's happy. Everybody's happy. You happy, I'm happy, we happy. You know, so I'm rocking with it. It's still early too. There's still the draft to come. We got so many picks. We got so many things to do. We ain't even done yet. We ain't even done yet. That's what I'm saying. Right now, Right now it's early. We just cooking. We just cooking. I'm loving the way Omar's cooking right now. And they're making moves that may not be the most explosive, but they're steals and they're good moves. We just picked up the cornerback. What is it? Jamel Dean. Three-year deal. Three-year deal. After he was just in Tampa, they made that man take an $8.2 million pay cut last year. Okay. I'm looking at him. I'm like, man, y'all made him take a pay cut. I had to look. I said, okay, maybe because he was a little banged up, all that other stuff. But, bruh, this dude is 6'1". He's fast. Grease lightning fast, Joe. 4'3", Joe. 4'3". He is good man coverage, Joe. So, even if you do maybe possibly get loose from him, you're not about to get away from him. He's 4'3". Hey, Joe. Nephew! You got your partner over there. You got your running mate. Cincinnati. Hey. Hey. Lock it. We locking it. Don't forget. Don't forget. We got Ramsey still over here, too. Yeah. We locking it. Hey, Joe, listen. Joe Burrow, listen. Let me talk to you. Oh, see. We turning back to the dog. Listen. It's still ain't too late. We still got open arms over here. Joe Burrow, we still got open arms over here. I want you to remember that, okay? Hey, brother. I hope that he knows we're dead serious but I just hope he's throwing it out there he I don't know just Joe Burrow if you really if you can come to the Steelers for sure that would be just the best thing ever Joe Burrow then it's Super Bowl or bust if we get Burrow it's Super Bowl or bust no question hey listen in the corner D we just hooked up hey guess what one touchdown allowed last year that's it you know what we got two corners that only allow one touchdown. That's what I'm saying. That's straps. That's straps. Put Dean opposite of our man, young Peasy. They still have to figure out a way to get Peasy going to get that bag. We got Peasy. They going to get it, man. They going to get it to him. They got to get it to him, man. We getting good deals, man. Everybody getting what they want. They happy with it, man. Listen, man, we getting good deals. And what was that? The year we gave to Asante Samuel for a year, for one year. And on top of that, you know, we got a hokum to a two-year five. So right now, we got every, I mean, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, we got every inside linebacker that we had in 2025 still under contract right now that we had from last year. So, I mean, and I think right now we can address, again, like you said, we got the draft. We can address that inside backer that could do both. hit the run and give me pass coverage too. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, Joe. We're going to hit that backer. We're going to hit that line. Backer, O-line. Backer, O-line, receiver. Even though we still got a receiver, but backer, O-line, receiver. Get that. Get that. We got 12. 12, Joe. We got 12. Four compensatory picks. Man, come on, man. Package them up, man. make them something good. Make them something great. Go get who you need. Just don't get 12 randos. But one of those was the, I don't know if it was 214 or 216. One of those was the swap that we ended up doing with the Colts for Pittman. We got a swap. So we still got 12. I think we might have swapped down to like a 224 or something like that. But right there, it ain't. You know what I'm saying? What are we talking about? It's still good. It's still good. Bruh. They did their thing right there. I ain't going to lie. The defense is coming apart. It's coming along. We got the one for four. Sante, you know what I'm saying? Chilling. And then we got another outside. I don't know if Sante plays slot, but we got those three corners right there. Dean. Listen, listen. Don't forget now. Ramsey, he go safety or quit. Ramsey's doing everything. Ramsey's Swiss Army knife. Ramsey's nickel. Ramsey's corner. Ramsey's safety. Ramsey's whatever you need him to be what kind of gang signs you throw it up that wasn't gang signs man I was throwing up every signal that I could in baseball to tell you to steal, go, not reach he doing it all, Swiss Army night throwing up all them blades 15, 20 blades in that thing okay, okay, okay I wasn't hip, I wasn't hip Joe Joe, we making moves over here Joe I'm excited, man. That's what I'm talking about. Joe, hey, the man cooking with, he cooking with grease, man. He cooking with beef tallow, the good shit. Eh, tallow. It's the new me. And it's the old them. This Woman's History Month, the podcast, If You Knew Better with Amber Grimes, spotlights women who turn missteps into momentum and lessons into power. My, like, tunnel vision of, like, I gotta achieve this was off the strengths of like, I want to make a better life for us. 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