From Prison to Purpose: Peter Meyerhoff's Journey of Redemption
50 min
•Oct 6, 20258 months agoSummary
Peter Meyerhoff shares his journey from drug addiction and 12 years in prison to becoming a motivational speaker, entrepreneur, and prison reform advocate. He discusses his transformation through sobriety, building multiple successful businesses, and creating prison curriculum programs that impact incarcerated individuals worldwide.
Insights
- Mindset and routine are foundational to transformation—prison taught Meyerhoff that mental discipline enables success in any environment, a principle he now teaches to inmates and entrepreneurs
- Redemption requires complete lifestyle change, not just sobriety—Meyerhoff pivoted from drug addiction to money addiction, then to purpose-driven work, showing that incremental shifts matter
- Targeting high-security prison populations yields exponential impact—teaching shot-callers and gang leaders creates cascading influence across entire prison yards and into communities
- Personal network building through consistent daily action compounds over time—Meyerhoff's gym networking strategy generated relationships that led to podcast opportunities and business partnerships
- Authenticity and vulnerability attract genuine relationships and opportunities—his willingness to share his past (including white pride tattoo removal) built trust with his wife and professional network
Trends
Prison-to-entrepreneurship pipeline gaining mainstream attention as viable talent source for businessesMindset-based personal development frameworks resonating with audiences seeking alternatives to traditional self-helpPodcast as primary platform for redemption narratives and personal brand building among formerly incarcerated individualsFaith-based transformation narratives gaining traction in secular business and entrepreneurship spacesHigh-security prison reform and inmate education programs emerging as social impact investment opportunityAuthentic storytelling and vulnerability becoming competitive advantage in personal branding and speaking circuitsPost-incarceration business mentorship and networking as underserved market segmentFamily estrangement and boundary-setting becoming normalized topics in personal development discourseSobriety-to-success narratives driving demand for addiction recovery content in business podcastingPrison curriculum and rehabilitation tech platforms scaling across state correctional systems
Topics
Prison reform and inmate rehabilitation programsPersonal transformation and redemption narrativesSobriety and addiction recovery in entrepreneurshipMindset training and mental disciplinePrison gang dynamics and institutional politicsSolitary confinement and psychological impactPost-incarceration employment and business buildingPodcast production and personal brandingFaith-based personal developmentNetwork building and relationship capitalAutomotive sales and finance managementCryptocurrency and investment diversificationFamily boundaries and estrangementMotivational speaking and curriculum developmentSober clothing line and merchandise business
Companies
Vice TV
Produced documentary series featuring Meyerhoff's life story in Season 2, Episode 5 titled 'Shot Call'
Marquee (car dealership)
Meyerhoff worked as finance manager earning $350k annually before transitioning to entrepreneurship
Impact Church
Church organization mentioned as spiritual foundation for Meyerhoff's faith-based transformation work
Colorado State University
Alma mater of Meyerhoff's wife who received full athletic scholarship for volleyball
Grand Canyon University
Graduate school attended by Meyerhoff's wife on full scholarship before professional volleyball career
People
Peter Meyerhoff
Former inmate turned motivational speaker, entrepreneur, and prison reform advocate; primary guest sharing redemption...
Tommy Mello
Host of The Home Service Expert Podcast; founder of 200M+ company in 22 states; interviewer
Andre Norman
Prison reform advocate and former gang leader mentioned as example of successful post-incarceration transformation
Jocko Willink
Navy SEAL and author of 'Extreme Ownership' who offered investment partnership to Meyerhoff
Eckhart Tolle
Author whose content is second-most downloaded on prison tablets nationwide after Meyerhoff's curriculum
Gabi Hanbar
Co-creator of content that ranks among most downloaded materials on prison tablets
Viktor Frankl
Holocaust survivor and author of 'Man's Search for Meaning' recommended by Meyerhoff for finding purpose in adversity
Travis Herndt
Pastor at Impact Church who influenced Meyerhoff's faith-based approach to prison ministry
Daniel Kolenda
Pastor at Echoes church attended by Meyerhoff for spiritual development
Quotes
"I just turn a drug addiction to a money addiction and got sober and just changed everything, bro."
Peter Meyerhoff•Opening statement
"You could put me in the middle of Afghanistan and about six months I'm going to be running that mountain."
Peter Meyerhoff•Mid-episode
"The only time that you're never going to progress is when you actually give up. The only thing that I did right for 31 years of my life is that I didn't give up."
Peter Meyerhoff•Closing advice
"If you believe in yourself, you can literally achieve anything. The fact that I'm sitting here today should show you that."
Peter Meyerhoff•Final thoughts
"When you can like, literally use your screw ups to help you better off, like, you have an advantage on normal society."
Peter Meyerhoff•Prison curriculum philosophy
Full Transcript
I just turn a drug addiction to a money addiction and got sober and just changed everything, bro. Welcome to the Home Service Expert, where each week, Tommy Chats with world-class entrepreneurs and experts in various fields, like marketing, sales, hiring, and leadership, to find out what's really behind their success in business. Now, your host, the Home Service Millionaire, Tommy Mello. Before we get started, I wanted to share two important things with you. First, I want you to implement what you learned today. To do that, you'll have to take a lot of notes, but I also want you to fully concentrate on the interview. So, I asked the team to take notes for you. Just text notes, N-O-T-E-S, to 888-526-1299. That's 888-526-1299, and you'll receive a link to download the notes from today's episode. Also, if you haven't got your copy of my newest book, Elevate, please go check it out. I'll share with you how I attracted and developed a winning team that helped me build a 200 million dollar company in 22 states. Just go to Elevate and win.com, 4-slash podcast to get your copy. Now, let's go back into the interview. All right, guys. Welcome back to the Home Service Expert. Today's going to be awesome. I got my boy, Peter Mayeroff here. He wrote the book against all odds. He's an expert in motivational speaking podcasting and resilience. He's based out of L.A. He had the podcast here. He's called Roll, Roll call with Chappy. He's got an incredible story and we're going to be going over it. At 15 years old, Peter became involved in a life crime and drugs. At 18 years old, he was since 12 years in prison and ultimately spent nearly a year in solitary confinement. But since his release, Peter turned his life around because you come up best selling off their motivational speaker, podcast, and entrepreneur. He currently runs a sober clothing line and has also created a prison curriculum app that helps inmates transform their futures. Peter's story is about resilience, redemption, and refusing to make excuses. Today, he's not just an advocate for change. He's living proof of what's possible when you can turn pain into purpose. Hey, it's pleasure to have you. I appreciate that. The only thing that makes up is I'm based out of Arizona, not L.A. You are an Arizona. People think that because I do so much stuff out in L.A. and I'm always like, I'm going out there next week. I'm out there in every month. Yeah, because you're a queen, queen, queen, queen. Queen Creek just built the house out there last month with my beautiful black wife. And that's crazy from an X-D. They were used to running out for the Arabian brotherhood. Wow. We got a lot to talk about. Tell us about your story, where you're at today, where you're looking forward to going. Yeah. If you want to get into the backstory of like, well, how I got there, you know, I was a, I said I had a good as a kid, but I just, I realized now that I have kids that I just like blocked all the bass off out of my childhood. So I don't have too many memories. But like my parents, I love living in a cul-de-sac. So it was cool to they were 10 years ago. I was about 10. My dad was a drug addict alcoholic. My mom left him when we were 10 and that's when the trouble started. I went to go live with a single mother who was a flight attendant. So four or five nights a week, I was home alone. And, you know, when you're in middle school, if your mom's not there to wake up, make you go to school, you're going to go to school. No, usually not, you know, so I usually have a 10, so about a one or two days a week at school and started going down the bad path. So anyways, I got to go to prison at 12. I run a holiday with prison at 12. I mean, 18 years over 12 years. Yeah, yeah, so that's what I want to know. I end up, so what did you drop out? You were freshman year? Also, you're like, I never made to semester high school. 15. Yeah, never made to semester high school. I got probably two, three months. So you have four years of your life just chilling doing drugs, doing drugs and f*** off and getting arrested. And the thing is, I would always get arrested for stupid dumps. You know, when you're a kid, you could do anything. Like literally, like, there's been multiple times like they were the cops were on there telling my mom, like, come pick your kid up. She's like, I'm not picking him up. He needs to go to jail. I'm like, we can't. He's a juvenile man. You know, that's what they tell my mom. So I still kind of have that mindset. I steal him or say he's been to him. Say he's been to dealership right here, brand new, like still at plastic on the seats. But that's just back when Gawney's 60 seconds came out. So they're like, they're like, they're, they're on still. They have the red laser cut keys. And I'm just like, that's all we did. We guard all night. And like, I've been first to believe I was not no big time dude on the streets. I was a little petty shithead thief. Like literally, that's all I did. We go right and it's embarrassing. He was saying the shit I did now. You know, like we go and just stealing shit all night long. You know, like with bull cutters and stuff. So that's what I did. I stole him or say he's been there. I get arrested. Lowjack had just came out. I didn't know nothing about lowjack. You know, so I get surrounded two hours later. And I get three months jail and probation now, right? Even then I'm like thinking, damn, I just robbed him or say he's only got three months jail. You know what I'm saying? Like, and now like the fear of jail is gone for me. You know what I'm saying? Because I always have the fear in the back. Like we don't know what jail or prisons really like. You know what I'm saying? Now I've been to jail. It sucks, but it's not that scary. You know what I'm saying? And I only got three months. It's not like the deep prison. Yeah, no. And yeah, and I was a minimum security shit. So it was nothing gangster. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, and then I'm like, now that's all gone for me. And I only got three months for stealing or saying he's been there. I'll just be a little more careful this time or whatever. You know? And spring break, which should have been my senior high school, my brother and his friends come back. What's crazy is I went to prison for burglarizing a house that was already burglarized and whose house it was. It was my best friend that didn't stand up for me, which is why we did it. So coming full circle, right? So four years later now, it's spring break and they're the most spoiled rotten rich kids and all about two. They have like a 15,000 square foot house out there. And um, they're in Hawaii. My brother and his friends come back and just had a bunch of shit and they're like, we just burglarize the Nelson's house. We're like, where are they at? They're in Hawaii. And I'm like, oh, shit, they do go to Hawaii every spring break. So no one is there. Yeah, no one's there. I'm like, that's so like, I'm just keeping on alone. Like when my brother's friends leave, because they drink. So they're going to pass out a two or three in the morning. Me and my buddies, we don't sleep or on drugs. So when they go to sleep, then we go back to the house. Because I was only do like, do not go back to the house. Like, no, we won't. You know? So go back there. I know where the house is. The back door is open. I don't even make it out of the garage, bro. Like, I was going to take just stupid stuff and come in full circle now. Just crazy how you can see. Like, I just want to shit that I couldn't afford. You know, I took Jordan basketball shorts, Jordan sandals and a snowboard and a drill. You know what I'm saying? Like, and now it's like, it's so to know, like my kid wears George every single day now. You know what I'm saying? Because I can never wear that shit as a kid. And it feels so good. Just little shit. Just seeing my kid come out to me. We're in George. And I'm like, dude, it's, it's, now it's cool to see in the life. I forget to raise my kids because I got two little babies now. So anyways, we do that. I don't make it out of the garage. My buddies come and they take all the joy upstairs. And we get home. And he pulls out this bag of jewelry, man. And it's like a bag of jewelry, 330,000 for the jewelry. And I'm like, keep in mind, I'm not no big time, dude. Like, this is bigger than my drug dealer that I, you know, we go still shit and give it to him and give us drugs and money. Like, he can't even buy this shit. You know, he lives in a trailer in the South, right at the street from here, South Phoenix, bro. Yeah. Like, literally, I was having flashbacks. Any time I turn on Broadway, I have flashbacks. Yeah. And, um, of course, 10 kids involved. My friend that took the jewelry, of course, tells the cops that he was sleeping on my mom's house. I'd burglar's the house. I even told them where the jewelry's hidden because I have mom probation. So now I'm this hard. I saw insane shit to the cops. The other five kids that went to the house first, every single one of them said that I had did it. I told them I did it. They don't know nothing about this except that I told them I'd done it. And they say they're going to make an example of me. And I'm just like, bring it, you know, like I think I'm this little bad, tough ass, dude, you know, and worst case scenario, I thought I'd get like two, three, four years. And at this point, like, did you have a court appointed attorney? No, I actually had a, so I had a court appointed attorney at first. And then when they were, when they were still trying to get me the same plea, four to six to nine years, my dad had got me, I had to the attorney that ran for the attorney general for the state of Arizona. And he lost the election right during my case. I had the worst judge in Arizona's history. They ended up banning him because he was too harsh on his sentences afterwards, but they didn't resent me and they sentenced me and I never figured his words. He goes, I find it mitigated for the fact that you're only 18 years at the time you come into this crime. He goes, I also find it mitigated for the fact that I think you have a drug problem rather than a thieving problem. He goes, and his next words are, but I think this also calls for an aggravated sentence of 12 years. And I was like, and I remember before my sensing, I told my lawyer, because we were looking at 4.25 to six or six and a half. Well, didn't they give you, didn't the prosecutor give you a plea bargain? Yeah. Yeah. So this is how dirty this is. I got a plea. So all the kids had did it. All they had on me was everybody's, all these kids telling me, right? I know they already did it. And then that's how I got my police report. The five kids had all got seen. They went to this house in the daytime. So there it was a moon malibu. I got seen and spotted by the neighbors. So I'm knowing if it goes a trial, like I was the only one I knew, I wore gloves. My fingerprints were nowhere. These all kids I got spotted. And my brothers and their all kids, I'm like, think of worst decision. My brother gets probation. I take this to trial. I scale this, right? So I was found my case for almost two years in the county jail. Nobody's in there for like non-dangerous crimes for that long, right? Like literally nobody. Yeah. I was in there for 20 or 21 months. So, but they won't budge on this. So then what do they do? A year in my case, they charge my mom, my dad, and my grandma all with my crimes. Because my grandma lived my mom's house and they said that my mom and my dad knowingly possessed the stolen stuff and didn't do anything about it. Oh my god. Right? So now I'm finding that that's crazy. And they don't budge on anything still. So then if finally we go to the settlement conference and everything's recorded in court hearings, right? Except a settlement conference because a settlement conference is your final mediation before you go to trial. Okay. So it's the last step. So for your settlement conference, you're going to go in front of, I don't remember the name, but I went in front of a different judge and it's like a mediation. So it's not recording. This is like they put you guys in the room like figure this shit out before you want to go to trial because they're saying you don't really want to go to trial. This is expensive. Yes, they throw the book at you. Yes, that's the thing you please figure this shit out. You know what I'm saying? That's like telling you to tell me like you really don't know what you're looking at if you lose and try to tell them, I'm probably like, yo, you don't really want to go to trial. This and all that. And then so I tell them to give me a different plea. She says, no, I said, okay, how about this? Drop the charges against my family and then recommend the minimum. I said, you do that. I'll sign your plea bargain today. Minimum is 4.25. She said, if you sign this plea, I'll drop the charges against your family and recommend the minimum. Cool. Done. Whatever. It is what it is. So I sign the plea bargain. Now I know I'm going to get 4.25 to 6 or 6 and a half. I remember telling my my lawyer, like it was just say, you just got to make sure I don't get the six years. I cannot do six years. Like I cannot do so. I'm claustrophobic. I'm everything, which is why I say like you can do anything you want to as long as you train your mind to do it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I got to live in a five by seven and I'm claustrophobic. You know, for years too. Like not only a year in solitary. And I go to my sentencing. At this point, I'm just ready to go to prison. I've been in county jail forever. Right. So I go there and you're like all shackled up together. Your lawyer usually comes and talks to you right when you get to. Wait, you said I can't do six years. They gave you 12. Yeah. And then they count the two that was in the county. Yeah. So I went to prison that in May of 2005 got locked up in April of 03. And I got released in February of 2015. Dude, don't you get to get out earlier for good behavior or anything or like a piece? I was I got out of supermax. I'm investigating for attempted murder. Like I didn't behave good in there. Oh, you didn't behave. Yeah. Oh my god. Exactly opposite. I didn't change my life until I got over to some federal after I got out and found God. And what year was that? You're after I got out. So 2018. No, 2016. So you got out in 2015, 2016. You almost died. And then yeah, nine years ago. Just over 10. I've 10 years sober now to you. Oh, and then made two million bucks in next five years with zero education, no help, nothing. Two million. Wow. And so keep going. I want to hear these details because I don't get a whole lot of stupid. I'm just going to ask these details. So it's pretty cool even me talking about this now. And it brings it up for me too. Because sometimes, you know, I tell dudes the worst thing I can do is forget how shitty my life used to be. You know what I'm saying? Because then I'll get complacent. I don't have perspective. I don't have as much gratitude as I should have. Yeah. So you got these shackles. Yeah. So it comes down. My lawyer won't even look at me. I knew I have gruesome. I just knew it was a bad day. I just had it right then when he wouldn't look at me. I knew there was something was wrong. You know, and what I should have done going back is I should have had her cap the plea because if I were to tell her to cap the plea, which means she said she'd recommend the recommend the cabinet. But if I tell her to put them, it can be in the plea bar. I can say and I'm recommending the minimum for this. I didn't do that. The best lawyer. I didn't do that because she said, lawyer, she's telling me to my face. How am I thinking of lawyers? And I look for a lot of my face in front of a judge. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So then she goes and my lawyer hands me this pre-sense report, which they do before you get sentenced every time, which is they do like separate people go through the whole case and they kind of give the recommendations to the judge on what they should do, right? He gives this whole thing and he's like, here's this. And I'm like, what the f is this? What do you expect me to do with this? What am I looking at? You know, when he points right here, he goes, that's her recommendation. She recommends 13 years. I'm like, but she said to me, he's, I know I know, members, it's from in in front of a different judge. We don't have anything recorded. And I'm just like, oh my god. And then we do the talk thing. And I still was like, I was like, there's no choice. Chances are judges going to give me this much time. You know, like keep my I've been there for two years now. So I've seen dudes, you know, murders and manslaughter, five, 10 years. Like I've seen all this shit. There's no way they're going to give a kid like me 12 years for a theft charge. Like not so much. I didn't think 12 was even on the table. I thought the worst case scenario would be six to nine. You know? Yeah. And then he says that. And I go from like, bawling my eyes out when he says that 12 years to like, just flat out shock. And then the next thing I know is I, you can hear like just the court erupt, man. And I turn around behind me. You know, like my grandma's there. And she's like flipping out. Like, please, I mean, hug my grandson because he's gonna be dead by the time I get out now. Like barely holding himself up. Like you see in the movies, bro, you know? And, you know, I'm a big family. You know, it's crazy. Now I made it through all this from I don't talk to any of them. You don't touch your grandma. Oh, I'm sorry. My grandma, my mom and the only two people on my entire family. I've talked it both. No, not any. What about your uncle? No, my dad's 27 years sober. So you don't talk, I don't talk to my, the last talk I got into my uncle was like, I will whoop your ass. I am that dude now. You said that then to my uncle. I want to talk me on a box. So you don't, you talk to your mom and grandma only. That's it. I don't even talk to my own brother that like weird like this. You're younger brother. Yeah. And you know, what's, what's the deal with that? I had a hard time being this. I don't ever want to badmouth my family. It's just like that. But like, I'm a, here's the thing. Like I'm a servant for God, bro. You know what I'm saying? I like, my message is supposed to help people. So like if the truth hurts, then my brother needs to change, you know, and like I won't have negative bad stuff around my family, you know? And so your uncle, your dad, your brother, you just don't feel like they're living. They don't pass. Everyone on them. I don't associate with bad people now, bro. Like blood or not. Like I don't, I'm the firm believer. Like just because you have the same blood as but does not mean your family. Like I have dues that have not even a trace of same blood as me. And like I would die for them and they would do the same for me. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy, man. Prison will teach you real quick like about loyalty, man. And how, how important it is to have someone that's like loyal to you, like really loyal to the court, not just saying the loyal to you. Well loyalty. So you go in and there's a few. So talk to me about it's already been pictured because I was a model. I used to, I was in a movie as a kid too. Like I was a stud athlete. Like I was six foot, 144 pounds with long blonde hair. Like a little pretty boy. And this was, how what did you when you went in? Six foot 144. And that's when you win in. I mean, isn't no, okay. So I put on like 20 pounds in jail. So I think I was like 16170. And then I got released. I was 64 264. What are you now? 220 to 25. But I got, yeah, I got, I put on shit. What did I can do? The math 120 pounds in there and grew three inches. I really had armpit hair. Yeah. I was the last person to hit like puberty out of my friends. Like I was like literally just like a little kid when I went away, bro. Like, and you know what's that's what it I want to see it made it easier for me though, because it'd be so hard, bro. If I knew that life was this good out here. Seriously, I didn't even know what I was missing. So it kind of made it easier for me, you know, that was after two years in the county. Joe right there too. Oh boy. Wow. So tell me about the gigs. I just want to hear a little more. I want to jump into what the future looks like. Yeah, for sure. So you walk in and you what did you get in a bunk with someone else? Yeah, little cubicle. Like you're an absolute nobody. They run the rules down to you. Like, yo, here's what it is. Like you got 12 years. Like you better pay attention and put your head down, you know, and like they, you know what they call a sucker punch. Do you? No. Because you're the sucker if you could punch. I was like, what does that mean? He's like, if someone raised their voice at you, you even think you're going to get into someone you just take off on. And I was like, you take off on them. I was like, really? I was like, we can do that. He's like, yes, this is prison. He goes, you don't ever let someone get the better hand on you. If you even think you can go, they just always better to say sorry afterwards. So you hit him. Yeah. That's what they tell me to. So tonight I'm using this on the same guy like a couple weeks later. And my first fighting prison was the guy that ran the rules down to me and was running the building and was built like me and you now and I was built like 160, 170 pound kid back then. So and you had already learned a little bit about boxing. I used to box. So I already know I have a cheat code. I you know, if you actually know how to find a like a trained person like no one on the street knows how to fight, you know, then that goes for prison. The same thing. You know, so like out of the streets, one out of a hundred knows how to fight in prison, 10 out of 100 know how to fight, you know, so he says some smart shit about playing cards in this little cubicle area. And I already made up my mind after counting. I was going to like take it to like say somewhere we had to fight. And I'm just good on reading bubs. I knew no one respect me or looked at me and I was like, I'm going to show these guys I got fight. You know, so he does it and then says, I'm going to teach the little young punks out of respect your elders and goes to take the chew out of his mouth and turns his back to me while he does this. I'm like, you told me the rules here. You know, so like, I'm on top of him within five seconds. Doesn't even get a hand on me. They're not ripping me off him and beat the brakes off the stew. The next morning, like the weirdest thing I'm going to prison at first, especially when you're a public kid is like, you're a nobody. But no one cares about you. Like, no one even talks to you. They're like, I'm going to see if you're going to last a week or two. You know, I'm saying like literally no one even messed with you because they think especially kids like me, they're like, they're like, this dude's going to check in in two seconds of request, protective custody. You know, but yeah, but you was it like the what are the there's gangs you either got to go with or not, right? Like you so there's I only have one choice. I can either run with the Aryan brotherhood or I can be a lame. Those the only two other ones are yeah, you got the maximum off you have serenios, which is the Cali guys. Glendale, so big Glendale has their own race and gang in prisons now too. And then you got the pices and the border brothers for them, which we're at complete war with in the prison before I left, like literally full on war. And that's what you like to separate yard. Oh, murder each other like dudes. Yeah, the head dude of my that the Aryan brotherhood was like stabbed the head dude and the mechsons and killed him and his and his right hand man right in the yard in front of everybody. And these guys are doing what were their senses like a lot of them are not even like so the might what are they like less than 10 years and they still did that. The mother of them now they're doing life. The main guy that was the top dude for the Aryan brotherhood that I'll show you afterwards and he's like a man of God. He's the most remarkable dude I met now came down for three year burglary charge back in the 90s and murdered a black dude in the childhood and picked up 30 years and never three years. And when you get out some some of these guys that they do you know Andre Norman. Yeah, he was just on my show last week. I know Andre really well. Okay, he was just like the one he says he's one of the bosses. Yeah, he's like look he walked in and be like make me a sandwich. I made him say that's why my show to you. Yes, it all just cool shit. So like that that's one of the guys. Same kind of stuff. Yeah, it's and that's the same thing. So he was you can tell about dude's verbiages and stuff like that. Yeah, how it is. And that's like and you know what that says is that Andre not only that, but he did time in a real yard because those real yards those cops just want to go home, but they're not trying to start no shit. They don't want none. They don't want no problems or any of that stuff. Oh, there we go. That's my man. We'll hit him up later. Yeah. So. So now you're you go through all this and you go through the struggles and who's visiting you? So then and then my mom, my brother and my dad, I always had, there's always had chicks too. Like it was just kind of easy for me. You know, like I always say like I had the toughest time pals. I had as good as pals with all that stuff. You know, I always had visits and stuff like that and always had comments or especially your running yards. You have to have that stuff. But so that was a digging for the attention. Like the next morning when I come out like all these OGs that I used to like look at on the yard, you know, like we're now want to shake my hand. You know, because they heard this little kid whoop way those run in the building, you know. So now they wait out there to shake my hand and now it's this is a dicting is anything possible. It's like making your first money when you're trying to be coming to entrepreneur. You know what I'm saying? And I just jump headfirst into the politics and I'm like, oh yeah, if you guys want anybody to smash, please let me know. Like I don't like God. If he's real, you don't like me. Wait, this is right when you get out. No, when I get in. Right. When you get in, you're getting in the politics now. And then by the time I was 23 years old, I ran my first yard, which is a for it. I was on. I've no joke like pulled a corrections officer. I had that yard so crazy. I was in a relationship with the CEO. I had the lieutenant on the team that was helping us make sure we could go certain places. We're drinking pro methamphetamine with coating on the yard, smoke and blunts, enough on a four yard in the morning. Just it was like, you evade to me, bro. That's why I say that was my taste of college. But then you get your first predator packet, which means they say that literally the state and staff says that you're a predator on the yard and it's automatic maximum security. So that's my first one. I got four of those done on me. Maximum security is hell. Five by seven, five by seven. You're, you can touch this. You can't even do push it beside yourself. And you're in there 24 hours a day, 24 hours a day. The only time you get to get out is you get to go to a wreck cage. That's the same exact smaller than this, but dirty ass concrete. And you get to go out there. They shackle you, walk you out there like that. And then unshackle you once you're in the cage. You'll never out of yourself without full on cuffs on. And so you never can do that. And like birdbass. You take a birdbath in your cell because showers is like when you go to the shower, it's you get a shower either Monday, Wednesday, Friday or Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, not to mention that by the time they put you in the shower, say you're up on Henry run. They put you up on the shower at Henry run. Then they go to an iron, eye to run, whatever all the way down to Abel Baker, Charlie on the other side. So by the time they come back to you, it's almost an hour like you're full on drenched and sweat and this whole hot ass shower that you just win in. So like I don't even shower, bro. When I was in Maxcher, usually I spent a year not even leaving that cell, bro. You spent a year in the same freaking stuff. What do you do? And I'm not supposed to go back. You just you read, you get like, are you? Do you want to know how crazy this and how hard my time was? I'm so 80D and 80HC, I never even read in there. I was in VC where all you get is a vibe on, didn't even open it. I would just pace and I still know my thing. I'd pace one and a half steps this way, one and a half steps this way. And you know, I do it like that's why I still lean like this is because it's always freezing cold and so every time you're in there, all you do is like this, you have your hands in there because they don't give you anything. You go like this, one and a half steps this way and then my shoulder bounce on the door like this and I turn on like this, go one and a half steps that way and then my my shoulder hit the other wall. Oh my god. I need to just pace for 12 hours. Save my life. I was 170 pounds on the yard, strung out, shooting dope. I go to the whole for 11 months. I get out 263 pounds, finally I was able to get 11 months of like not even positive shit, but at least not just doing drugs on the yard and for this prison politics. You know what I mean? And I'm actually able to like every week, I get a phone call to some call my brother, my mom and I'm actually talking like normal stuff now, not yard politics, because I'm here every day for 12 years straight. But I got out of prison. I didn't know what to do, bro. Like I didn't have a plan. Like I thought the like somehow get a construction job, like trying to figure out how to get sober, but like have no fun, but at least you're not in prison. Like that was like if I can find success, that's what it looks like. And I didn't know how I was going to do that. And so you get out, get out. And I'm entitled to party. Never been to have never been on a day, never worked a day in my life, never been to bar, never done any of this stuff. Right? Like I was a little kid when I went out. So like any normal good person place would be to spend time be Samber. So I went to that Samber over there in our two, give six days a week. I opened that Samber. Yeah, pulled chicks there. I was weird part of the ones that closed it down, but pulled chicks there like every day, but just hook up a chick's every day. Did nothing positive, get in a salt case on parole, blacked out. And then over and over some fentanyl, blacked out wasn't even doing drugs, but I was blacked out drunk. And I had to go through my phone afterwards. And I ended up leaving the bar, blacked out drunk. And one of my youngsters from the joint literally hit me up in Guadalupe. I drove my truck from Hobnob right there in Chandler to Guadalupe, blacked out drunk. Don't remember driving and wake up in ambulance nine months out of prison. And I'm like, it was fentanyl. And I wake up in ambulance. And I'm like, I'm never still, I've been out of prison nine months. All I've done is drink and party. I'm not nothing bad, but nothing positive either. You know, like nothing like I'm not a job. No, no, I had this mindset. Who the hell is going to want to hire me? You know what I mean? What did you like just mom's help with you? My dad would give me $1,500 a month at first. That's it just to live off. You know, and he's like, and that was the deal. I'd have to like, actually, I was putting in job applications every day. Yeah. And I wake up in ambulance and I tell the paramedic what the hell happened. And he's like, you're over dust. I was like, I don't even use drugs anymore. He's like, you did today. By the time they got me to the hospital, my heart was only beating six beats a minute. They gave me seven shots of an arcane, had to recess. I mean, when they found me, I was dead, no heartbeat. Completely dead. This is another reason that I've really believing God. I didn't find self-taught. There's my ex-girlfriend sister found me, right? She went home after work to go tanning. So she pulled on the parking lot, parked her car, got out of her car, walked up to the door, put her hand on the door to open the door. She said the second she put on her hand on the door, so I'm told her to go home for some reason. So she said she took her hand off the door, got back in her car to go home and take a nap and find me dead in the bathtub. If she even walks in there and then decides to go home, another few seconds, I'm probably not here today. You know? And like, instantly I went from, I remember in that hospital bed, I was thinking like, why did I survive this? Why can't I just die? I'm in done with this life, man. I was done, bro. I still hadn't even worked, so I didn't even know if I was going to make something of myself. I felt like I've been fighting my whole life, but I was just done. But I always wanted to kill myself, but I never would because of my mom, you know? And I just wanted to die. And then I went from that moment to thinking, maybe I was saved and this is like, God, and maybe this is my chance like trying to get sober. So my last, my little talk I have myself in that hospital bed is like, how much do you want to like prove that you're entitled to go drink and party and pull chicks and have fun? And do you want to at least try and get sober and figure life out at least once? Like, tell myself, give yourself a shot. You've never even tried to live life, you know? We're not just out to go to stay with my dad. We went to like two or three A-A meetings a week. I had no idea what to do. But luckily, my co-defendant was the finance director at a marky up in Scottsdale. So he's going to get me a job to go sell cars and I got out. And my dad sent me back here with five pairs of khakis. I won't get one free at Coles, five dress shirts, buy one, get one free. And I had to pay him back my first paycheck and made 10 grand my first month ever working selling cars and 13 months. I was in finance manager making 350 grand a year with my own office and just murdered shit. I just turned a drug addiction to a money addiction and got sober and just changed everything, bro. So you go into cars, my dad used to run Amcose down to Thomas. He owned a transmission up before that. I grew up at auto shops. So I love car. I bought and sold over a thousand cars. Really well. At bottom on Craigslist. I used to buy G20 infinities, Honda Civics. It just cleaned them all up, put new tires on and changed the oil. And my dad would fix it if they needed anything. But that's great. So you got 350 grand coming in and then what's the next calling after this? So then yeah, I do that for four or five years. And like, you know, as well as anybody like money doesn't make it happy. It's cool when you first get it. But then after a while, it just opens your eyes up to more expensive stuff and then you're like, you don't really have as much money as you think you have. And then it's like, so I did that and like, you know, worked forever. A lot of hours. 70 hours. Yeah, that's some some working on these hours. I was like, I have to, you know, a million dollar house, but it's like, what is it like doing this for? You know, like, I'm not meant to do this. I know for a fact, I'm not meant to do this. I had no idea what I was going to do except a vice TV producer that reached out to me. And the interesting show I was a teenage fellow in that, yeah. So season two episode five is my whole life story. It's the shot call episode. So vice producer reaches out to me and I was like, I 400 followers on Instagram was like, man, I'm trying to make a run at this shit. Like, I'm dumb and naive as an officer. You know, I have a great story. Yeah, I got a few hundred grand saved up. And I'm like, if this Joe Schmose can get Instagram rich, I mean Instagram rich too. You know, that was my mindset back then, you know, but I knew I wanted to help you. I knew my story wasn't meant to sit in that office all day long, you know? And I was right. I was on the freebps at Indian school right there. So my, the finance offices like the glass window one and marquee if you ever see it. If you're dry, my you'll see now. Like that was my office right there. So like, Saturday, I would just look at cars, dry my own. The free and I'd be like, dude, I used to spend Saturdays locked in a cell and I'm like, now I'm just locked in another cell out here. You know, it just felt like this was not what I was meant to do. But I had no idea or no experience. I hadn't done anything positive. Like, I'm not one of those guys that did schooling or program or anything, you know? Like, so I don't know anything. I just know how to sell shit, you know? And but I saved up a few hundred grand. I was like, I'm just going to go meet with whoever the hell I can't. Don't even know who. But I had a rule of myself. I went to a different gym every day. And I would bare minimum at least get one new dude's phone number every single day and go up to the dude that looked like you had a nice shit on the gym or something. I got into go spark a conversation, you know? And I used to hear roaster by my brother and his friends back then because they say I would go to the gym to pull dudes. But I'm like, look at the network I built by myself, though literally two years. You know, I'm saying like, you're asking, I met snow like just the same I did just networking. I don't know, but I know everybody just like you know. And so I did all that and then luckily, you know, if someone tells you that I get interviews among a couple shows and they're like, this dude needs his own show. So I try and launch his podcast and launch the first episode of that one gets 20,000 views and I was like, holy shit, we're going to be on something here and started the podcasting for a few years and you know, without the book. Yeah, start playing some crypto and a bright and a book and then meet my just amazing wife and then to come for a circle, you know, like I get I you know, I had white pride tattooed across my stomach, got it seven sessions, the most painful shit I ever got that completely removed. And I had to tell my wife at first, like, you know, like I had one session left, but I told like a second day I met her. I was like, I was like, you know, I got to tell you something because I had a bad experience that not telling them when before I just flipped out on the middle of the night when I first got out. So I tell her and she's like, oh, I don't care about that. I'm like, are you serious for real? Another cool thing about my wife is I don't know stuff except what I see. So I'm like, I think this is gorgeous black woman. I'm like, my only role is don't talk politics with her before, you know, I'm saying before you see what kind of woman she is, you know, her second day over my house, she's like, I just got to ask you one question. I was like, what's your political beliefs? I was like, I don't really do politics, you know, she's like, but come on. She's like, who do you believe? Would you be like conservative or a Republican if you could say? I was like, I'll say it's this. I don't like Joe Biden. She's like, oh my god, thank god. I was like, I was like, all right, we got something on here. You know, and she grew up Mormon like complete polar opposite. She was all American volleyball players. She's Mormon. Yeah, grew up. She was a queen creek. Oh, she was a queen. Yeah. So she has the kills record of Colorado State. Then went to Grand Canyon, got a master's degree full rides everywhere. I was going to go play professionally overseas, but tore her Achilles. And she knows she's a chick. I just want to hook up with and I would have never even tried to have a relationship with her because I was like, I'd have to do way too much fixing internally to have to date a woman like that, you know, and not to say it's the greatest thing that's ever happened. It's just such a far understatement. Like, just woman to change my life beyond belief, like change it in the ways I didn't even know is change. And like, made me believe that I can do so much. At first, I just thought I had to get sober. You know, like, that's just such a, it's a low bar. The barometer. Like, that's where these old guys and A they've been sitting on it for 30 years going to A. And it's like, cool, congrats. But you got sober 30 years ago. Who do you help? What have you done? Or what have you fixed on top of that? You know what I'm saying? Like, well, their dream is too small. Yes, you know, absolutely. Most people that I meet, they're like, I want to do this. I'm like, yeah, that's money. What else? Literally. Then what do you do after you do that? Right? They say, I do this all for my wife and kids. I'm like, what about you? Yeah. If you can't love yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And then the thing I'm most proud of now is like, so I was kicked out of prison. Right? Like, I'm, I'm gonna tell you this. When I was at the, when I was in a solitary environment the last year, right? SSU, who's like the gang detectives in there. If you get booked on anything in prison is from the SSU staff, right? So once we find out this guy survived and everything, now I'm like, now I'm like, all right, this investigation is up. Investigations are supposed to be for 30 days. It's called a 2A investigation, right? They can extend them every 30 days, but whatever. It's usually a month. Sometimes they extend it twice, right? So they come in, I've been in like three full months now and I'm telling SSU, I was like, yo, what's up? You guys got to let me out of this hole? Like, let me go to the yard. I'm like, you can't expect me to go home after 12 years and solitary confinement and then make something in myself. That was back. I'm thinking they, they want you to succeed. And he's like, no, no, he's like, you're done. Literally, somebody's like, you're done. He's like, my off. We are done with you. Verbator, he says, we're done with you in here in prison. We're gonna let the streets have the look with you. You're gonna sit in the cell until you go home. And my release, dude, I was released in five point shackles walking to my release cage. Like with all the release guys, walk them their own thing. I was separated with five point shackles completely walking in there. And you got to see the video after this, but I had no idea what to do. And now I have one of the biggest podcasts. So they all have tablets now. So I have this, I'm the second most downloaded and all the prison tablets across the entire country. They only do that's bigger is that Eckhart, Toli and Gabi Hanbar's because they do their stuff together. And I develop prison curriculum now that I get to teach to prisons all over and prisons and states pay me to come teach and make what to do now. What are your number one lessons? We'll give you a good run. My sense, no one anything. Like routine and mindset is anything because just like you said a second ago, people are like too small mindy. Like you just have to get them to open up their mind to show them what's possible. Like here's a deal. Like I thought I had a cheat code. And I thought I was doing a disservice to everybody that had been locked up before when I made Tenga in that first month. And I was like I got that first check and I was like $4,400 after taxes for my bonus check. And I was like, oh my god. All I did was show me holy shit. It's possible. And I remember thinking like, what the often they tell me that we could do this in prison. You know how much how much harder I would have tried to do something productive. If I knew that if we didn't know that we could do cool shit, we get out of here, people are going to try that harder in prison. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And which is why my curriculum is so different because like anybody you see watching go to these prison yards, they're going to minimum security yards, these low security yards, and they're talking these dudes that are in and out of prison are whole lives. Like I go to the high, high security yards. Like sold out that place I went, that's all for it. It's called a direct out from the shoe. So anybody that comes from security housing, which is super max goes directly there. It's your first yard ever out of the shoe. And if you don't make it there, you go right back to the shoe. And then when I got done with that program there, and I get these killers on the yard, bro, to like cry, bro, and like literally act like I have never even seen do's in prison act in my entire life. And now only that when I get done with there, you know what the war until he goes, dude, where do you want to go next? I was like, what's a higher security prison than this? He's like, Salinas, but he's like, we can't go to Salinas. I'm like, why? He's like, they're killing each other right now. They're killing cops and everything like guys. Like no one can go to that yard right now. And I'm like, all right, if they cleared up, can I go there? That's what I want to do. Because when you get the shot callers to pass it down, you can change 100 lives with one person. If you're just changed those little kids that are in another prison every two, three years, you're not changing nobody. You're barely changing one out of a thousand of them. If you can get the shot callers to to to preach this shit on the yard. Well, the other thing is change it in the streets. Yes, absolutely. Which is why they can make a big impact going look. You guys, you listen to me. They were big. And they were. Why finally do coaching out here too? I didn't want to forever like no joke for sales. One of the guys that talk me into a tune. I didn't realize how many people are just like don't know how to live life, bro. You know, like, and that's what I'm just I feel like I'm a pro at bro. Just you could throw me anywhere, but I'm a figured out. You know what I'm saying? I always said like this. Like you could put me in the middle of mountain. I can't of Afghanistan. And about six months of your I'm going to be ruining that mountain. Yeah, I don't know how I will fire. Yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? You know, you got the same trait. I never went through dude. You know what's interesting is somebody's cat could die when they're nine. And that will traumatize them for life. And somebody else could watch their mother overdose. And it doesn't mean anything of the way they were lived. So you don't know what people go through. What's a lot for people. You've been through a lot more shit. Dude, I've had a lot of impactful things. But I look back and I'm like, man, everything happened for a reason. I had great parents. They went through their own trials. But at the end of the day, like one of the most important things is look, I got a lot of people that don't believe the same way I do. Not not in God. But just I just had to have a big heart and just say, you know what? You know, look, I'm not going to coach you on this. But you know, your uncle, your dad, your brother, I don't know. Maybe if they see you and plus you got kids and obviously you don't want them to leave a bad influence. But if you met with them every once in a while, I don't know, man. That's here. No, I want to be real. Yeah, the deal is for me. But I like me. I didn't get to where I did not listen to do's like you. Oh, it's just, you know, I would never want regrets. And I tell you do there's a lot of regrets I have is like my dad almost died through COVID. And I prayed hard. I'm crying going to visit him and he's like, I'm not ready to go. And I said, if you let my dad live, not only will it be a better son, but I'll I'll tell everybody on every stage. And this guy calls me a year later and goes, did you make a deal with God? Shut the f**k. No, I'm not kidding. And I got goosebumps. I'm not talking around. And he goes, he goes, I don't know what you did, but I imagine you on your knees praying. And I was like, who are you? He's like, I'm not any crazy. You know, he goes as the first time I've ever done this. He goes, but whatever you made, make sure you keep it because just as quick as he gave it to you, you can take it away. And I was like, oh boy, I read it my PowerPoint. Yeah. And so the first thing I do in my orientation is show one I got baptized. And like, I believe in Jesus Christ. But listen, I'm not going to tell you guys whatever religion you are. I'm not. I'm just telling you who I am. But yeah, it's important. And you know, I started hanging out with Travis Herndt. And if you get a chance, you need to go meet him in impact church. I would love to. I've been a I've only been to two churches. It's been an impact. And then I go to echoes with Daniel going out there now too. But yeah. And dude, I'm going to start like I feel like it's my obligation. Like if you are, you know, four out of five people will go to church if you invite him, but nobody invites him. Really? So I'm going to go below that church. I'm going to bring our A1 truck out. We're going to get there for a minute. I just want to go once a month and just show up and be dressed like this and just say, listen, guys, if you want this life, I don't care if you come or not. It's I'm just inviting you. And then you decide. And I'm going to go meet with Travis. Have a time. I'll tell you this. Like now, like, all the cool shit I've done, everything, like even the like I'm not most proud of the parent time out of my kids and stuff. But like, because the what's crazy is like the household I get to I raise right now is one I've never even seen except in the movies, which is crazy to me. Like think about that. I get to like raise my kids and have like a standard in my household. They get to like see love in my household. I've never seen in my life. You know what I'm saying? Like me and my wife are like this, bro. Like five times a day, I'm like, babe, do you anytime I get up? Do you need anything? Can I do anything for you? You know, like checking on each other, like putting the other person first and making sure that kids go first or anything like out of anything. I was going to say I'm rambling there, but out of anything that I was most proud about, it was a damn, I just lost my train. I was saying it with that. That's not good, man. We added this yet. So you teach mindset, you know, where you going from here? I mean, what is your big area? This is cool. What's your dream? My dream is I want to be the biggest speaker. And I just want to travel to prisons across the entire world, bro. I got so many people I'm going to introduce to you. Three that come to mind and all of these guys came from prison. One of my buddies, trafficking a lot, a lot, a lot of cocaine. Spent a long time. He's worth hundreds of millions of dollars today. Another buddy, changing people's lives, getting them in shape. Sean, I want to introduce you to these guys because, you know, I don't know if you enjoy kicking it with guys that know the like the certain time like you. Yeah, of course. Keegan came out as dad at a small business, electric business. Well, Keegan learned how to do a track in prison. And he stayed in the whole because they transferred him to Atlanta. And he's like, I can't go out there. Like he just, he's got stories and he gets theory, theory, I didn't. So he just mounted it locked up and he gets out. And you know what's crazy about prison? If these guys come out if they want to make it, they can make as much money. They could have any relationship. They could live the best life ever if they choose to because they've already seen they've been to rock bottom. It's straight up. That's what I teach them. And it's like this, this, if they find their brother, and I don't even want to call it brotherhood. I like to call it a wolf pack because wolves will attack. If an animal attacks one wolf, they all come out and Navy seals all wolf packs. I spent some time with Jaco, extreme ownership. And dude, he's soft when you're with him. He lives this day of a guy that's kind of hard face. I'm not going to say he's a soft dude, but he's been through this the ringer and he gave me some of the best compliments ever. And he's like, look, if you ever want to get into business, you know, I'm an investor, just call me. He's like, I'm in. And like, you know, I get access to these people, but I don't go in there going, hey dude, here's what I want to do. Wait till you see me. I'm just like, hey man, would be friends. I want to learn from you. Yeah. And I'm going to take notes and I'm going to actually do the work. Yeah. So dude, I like your story. I love your story. And the fact that you're going back to the prisons and the impact they could have externally, I mean, that's real. And that's impacting. That's massive, massive impact. No, like I said, to do that makes your mom safer. Yeah, at home. No, it's, that says, you know, we got a rule here. It's treat people like mom. And if you didn't raise by a great mom, maybe it was a grandma, maybe it was an uncle, maybe it was a coach, but just do the right thing. And I don't need to teach my guy sales. I'm like, smile more, play with the dog, make friends and do what you would do for your mom's house. If we do that, we're winning. Absolutely. But they can't believe. Here's the hard part. A lot of people believe that's a lot of money. My buddy that lives in Fresno has average ticket and H. track is 38,000 average ticket. And I go, what's a lot of money? If we all wrote down our, what's a lot of money? Somebody put 10,000. Another person would put 10 million. It's like, when you want a house, you want things done right. And if you got two little kids at home like you do, you want to make sure they're trustworthy with your wife, when she's alone in the HVAC or the whatever goes out. What other, what other things do you want the audience to know about? Don't ever stop finding your true purpose. You know, like, I can't tell you how many guys that I know that I work with now, they're 30s, 40s, 50s and like, just still feel lost and feel like they don't know where to go. It's never too late to restart. Like, I didn't start working until I was 30 years old. I never worked today in my life. Like, you could, whether you're 40 years old, and I did that stuff. And I mean, I, I semi-retired over the five years, you know what I'm saying? Like, you could legit restart anything. And another thing I like to do is I try to get to do this from prison, like, ready to attack the world. Just like you said, they've had their backs against the wall. Like, when they get done, like, going through my program in prison, the number one thing is their mindset should be that they have an advantage on regular people out here because of what we've been through. So when you can like, literally use your screw ups to help you better off, like, you have an advantage on normal society, you know? You have braced the failure and you remember where you came from. It's hard. Like, listen, would you rather hire a PhD or somebody that's been through 10 years of, of, of literally war and business and they've been through all the mistakes? Absolutely. I'll tell you, there's a great book you need to throw on the top of your list. It's called Man's Search for Meaning. Okay. And they do went through Holocaust and he made it out. And when you could find meaning in a place like that, I mean, I would imagine that the Germans that was worse than prison when you're watching your 100 million families getting murdered every, every Jewish person just treated like their bones, their, their, their, their arms are smarter than my wrist. And that's the ultimate to go through that. And you know, more, read more of the Bible. I want to, I got a book that every day, it's a new scripture that I just read. And then there's the Bible app. I don't, I just got that Bible up. So I read out, do that. And I'm in reading like, I think the, I mean, no, like the book of James John or James only two, but, well, my dad can quote every scripture. And by the way, that's how I strive to be. I used to strive to make a lot of money and all stuff now. You know, it's crazy. Like my, no, one goal is aside from like, raising my family great is like, literally, I want to be able to just like know the Bible, like the back of my hand. You know, like, I want to be one of those guys that like, I always say to my wife, I feel like I want to be one of those guys that would have made fun of when I was in prison, called him a Bible, and stuff like that. Because like, why not? Like all the stuff that we do, like, look at our lives, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like seriously, I wake up every day. And here's the cool thing. Like I don't have any pain. I live in the United States of America. Like some days you're like, man, I just want to do more. And you're like, dude, I am drinking out of a fire. I was 24 itself inflicted. Like my mom goes that last week. She goes, Hey, honey, you seem really quiet. The other night at dinner, are you okay? I was like, well, everyone's got 920 employees. I got the family office launching three softwares, not to mention 20 other investments. I've got my event with 1500 people and that's growing. We're building two houses. I'm engaged. We want to have children. No, I'm like, dude, that's the oh my god. That was the Jenny pop did, but can you tell you it's like, I'm good, but just on my own. I don't look great. Yeah. But you know, there's one day a month where I kind of like, man, why do I do all this? And then the rest of the time, I'm like, dude, let's go. You know, I just started doing two weeks. So me and my wife too is like one day on the weekend taking no phones. No phones. Yeah. It's a big thing. And it's, you know, realize how much because even I'm pretty good, bro. Like I'm trying to be, I'm really like, I changed all the diapers. Like I wake up from every morning and night. Like I'm a very, very, very good. No phones. I'm sad. But we're doing this Sunday this week. So we just pick a day. Like whatever we have something going on, you know, like, but we're doing this Sunday. No phones. Me and the wife, you know, and it does make a difference because even even if you're not bad with it, like you realize all your attention is there. Like you don't realize how much you're just flicking it on commercials. You know, and it's like, instead of, I mean, you're playing with your son or something the whole time or giving your wife more attention. It makes a huge difference. No phones. Maybe no phones. No TV. That'd be crazy. Wow. Yeah. And you really get to know the weather's nice. Now, so you could do that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I was with a buddy yesterday in this room and he sold his house in Paradise Valley or in Arcadia and he sold his house in Canada. And he just lives. He's been to 70 countries. No, I do. He's got two, two, two, double bags he brings and he works three months in each in different countries. I'm like, dude, I don't know if I can do that. But he's like, dude, I love the best freaking life. Imagine that. And he's on major stages. He gets paid 100 grand per stage. You know what I mean? And, but by the way, I love stages. I love my time. But every time I leave here to do a stage, I'm losing a shit ton of money. For sure. But I'm impacting lives. So what's it about? Is that about money or impact? So I can't if you have that many employees, bro. And Chris, no, no, they're my co-workers. They were the we're a good team. You know, the thing is, is they've changed my life just much. If not more than I've changed there or so. That's awesome. How do people get ahold of you, Peter? On the gram is Peter underscore Meyerhoff. My website PeterMirroff.com. Mama and I every platform know TikTok podcast. Don't forget that. Roll call with chapter on every platform to YouTube, all that stuff. I'm everywhere, bro. What's your favorite podcast you've done? No offense Josh. No, bro. Really? And I'm not just saying that because he's coming up here. I tell people all the time, bro. Like, what did you like about his podcast? You know, when you know the whole circle of all the big dudes around everywhere, like 90% of them dudes are fake. Even the ones that aren't fake, 80% of those aren't genuine. He's just real genuine. And to be honest, he gave me a shot when my show wasn't really big. I was kind of shocked. He would do my show. And this is the kind of guy Josh knows. He showed up to do my show. Remember, I'm like, just starting. I think it was like my 20th episode. No, nothing, nothing big. Someone just vouched and he came and did it and then showed up like 10 minutes late because he forgot to bring me presents. So he went to Best Buy and dropped a thousand dollars, getting me all his products from Best Buy and then to give me a whole bag of all his snow products. He just bought from Best Buy. So I could trial his products and like just the greatest conversation. And like me, you always get it wrong. Like, you always me. I always think of a guy when you see someone like came like, dude, whatever, what, how much of some money did his parents give him or how much you know what I'm saying or how many, you know what I mean? He said his parents house. Dude, he was 17 and grew up. Oh, I don't know. I heard what you did. That's why I'm a huge huge fan of yours. Like he speaks more than how they view. But again, then when you finally grew up on the south side of Phoenix and like, you know, didn't even have a computer. Just crazy, bro. I'm like, he's the only podcast I did where I was like, holy shit. No way. Then what? Oh my gosh. Then he is a brain. Yeah. Like he sits down. And I don't know how he does it, man. But you talk about brilliance. I don't know what his IQ is, but I still I was like, I'm confused. I didn't even talk to like even a hangout. I'm like, dude, I don't feel like I need a decoder to even talk to you. You know what I'm saying? I literally was like, he's like, dude, I need Drasger help. I showed up there with one of my guys. I'm like, hey, give him the nine. Fix everything, replace it, all give him new openers. And I said, Josh, give me one hour a month. And he would have done that for free. But he's like, dude, he's like, by the way, he's like, I know every group you're part of. He's like, you're one of the only real ones. He's like, these guys drive Ferrari's dude. They don't have any money in the bank. But no, man, I appreciate it. Give me one book. Is it? Because you just got started getting into reading. Is there any books that you would recommend other than against all odds besides against all odds the only book that I can legit being real to my character and not lying to people as the Bible? All right. Let's go. And finally, close us out, man. One final thought we talked about a lot of cool stuff. We know your story. Just give the audience something about life is hard. It's hard for everybody. The only time that you're never going to progress is when you're actually give up. The only thing that I did write for I always say 31 years of my life is that I didn't give up. I don't take no for an answer. If you believe in yourself, you can literally achieve anything. The fact that I'm senior today should show you that. And if anybody is not happy where they are, the only thing stopping you from getting the life you want is you just doing the same thing over and over again every day. Oh, I love the man. Thanks Peter. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate it. There's a horrible handshake on my part. 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