The Water Crisis Coming For America... | Scott Harrison | DSH #2016

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All right, guys, here at Bitcoin Conference with the former speaker, I just found out, we got Scott here from Charity Water. Yeah. You spoke here three years ago, you said, right? 2021. That was a crazy year. We're just coming out of COVID and... What did they want to talk to you about? Well, we were one of the first charities in the world to accept Bitcoin. I think by 2016 or 2017, we had taken in 569 Bitcoin. Wow, that's a lot. So we were really early. Our first Bitcoin donor, I was saying, was Tony Hawk. Shout out to Tony. Shout out to Tony. He came to a Charity Water gala, raised his hand and gave $1,500 and he paid for it with five Bitcoin that we promptly sold for $314 each. And then we sent his money to work helping people get clean water. Nice. So what I was talking about at the Bitcoin Conference is we started a trust that would hold Bitcoin and we got people to give us $100 and we just said, we're going to lock them up for five years and forget about it instead of selling them. Well done. So it's been up and down and sometimes I look really smart. Sometimes my team are like, wow, you should have sold when it was... I think we're either asymmetrically right and we'll be able to do a lot more good in the future. That's amazing. Let's talk about all the good you've raised over a billion dollars at this point. That's insane. All to water. Clean water for humans. I can't even picture how many lives that's affected. It helps. It's 21 million. 21 million. And that is not in mainly Africa or all over the world. In 29 countries, so we work throughout Africa, India, Southeast Asia, working Bangladesh and Nepal. And the problem as it stands today, there are 700 million people drinking dirty water. That's a lot. Which is kind of crazy. With all the technology and the wealth in the world, we have 10% of the planet that is poisoning themselves every day, drinking from swamps and from rivers and brown viscous water. What's the most efficient way to clean it these days? We have about 14 technologies that we use, but it's not super high tech stuff like desalination or membranes. It's wells, springs, rainwater harvesting systems, piped water systems. It's kind of low tech cost effective solutions to move clean water to where people need it. It costs us about $40 to help one person. So it's an entire village is helped for $10,000. Is that per day? No. Really? These projects last a decade, some of them last two decades. Wow. We've been around now almost 20 years and some of our very first projects are still producing clean water almost two decades later. That's impressive. From wells and other spring protections or gravity fed systems. How does the rain one work? I've seen videos on this on Instagram. It's not what you've seen on Instagram. Typically the stuff that Fast Company throws in our feet of a machine that pulls water from the sky. Yeah, some guy got arrested I saw for collecting rainwater. Which is crazy, I think that you can't. Certain states or certain states, they don't like, they control the skies. But what we do is, so a lot of times there's clean groundwater underneath the village. So you have a terrible irony of people literally dying. Dying of diarrhea, there's 28 different diseases associated with bad water and they are living on top of a lake of a resource that could save their lives and the lives of their children. But they don't have the equipment, meaning the drilling rig in this case, and we're the $10,000 to tap into that resource. So we do a lot of that. And it's, I mean it's an amazing moment. Like a truck comes in, eight hydrogeologists jump out, they start putting a pipe in the ground, they find the aquifer, they calculate. Yeah. There's different ways of doing that. In some countries they'll look at a grove of eucalyptus trees and say we know there's water there. Really? Because the eucalyptus trees need to keep an image of water. In other places they'll have like paddles, like the sound of the earth. And they'll use technology to kind of measure the earth and the resistant, you know, high tech stuff. In one country there's a guy that walks around with the stick, the dividing rod, and he's right 98% of the time. No way. Finds water. That's crazy. You know, he comes near an aquifer and that thing just bends. So you know, then you have this kind of unbelievable moment where there's 300 people in a community. They're gathered around the drilling rig. The rig hits water. They flush, they put compressed air down and start flushing it. And you have this geyser of clean water, the center of the village, that is shooting up in the ground. Wow. And there's tears, there's singing, there's rejoicing. I mean, it's an amazing thing to be a part of. In Rajasthan, India, we work in a really poor area there and it's too, the groundwater's too deep. So you could drill, if you brought in a special machine, you could go down hundreds of feet. But then it'd be really hard to bring it up from the water without using a lot of power. But there the monsoon rains come a couple months of the year and it rains like crazy. So what we do is we work with the communities and they build like a giant underground cistern made of cement next to their home. That cistern is covered and during those two months it fills up through filters and then they have a little pump and they're effectively living off the grid 10 months of the year from the rain where they've collected. Wow, that's that much. Holy crap. And what's cool, Sean, in some of these communities is people are spending so much income, not even on clean water. So in those communities, in the height of the dry season, they would buy water from tanker trucks that's not even clean. So when they get to live off the grid and they get sometimes 40 to 45% of their income back and then they start improving their homes and they start sending their kids to school. So again, this is so foreign for most people listening. We water comes out of taps. We have all the water that we want. We have pools and we water our golf courses. 10% of the world has just never had clean water. Yeah. Do you think we'll experience a water shortage with the rise of AI using all the water to power these data centers? I think water would get more expensive. We do have the ability to desalinate. We've got water on both of our coasts. It just gets expensive to move that water. I fly through Dubai a lot on the way to Africa and I think 95% of the water that runs the Emirates is desalination. They stick a straw in the gulf, but it requires a lot of energy, which they have. And you're constantly changing out membranes and you're pushing brine back so there's some environmental impact with desalination. So we will have that as an option. It's just expensive to move water. So our water bills might go up, but I don't think we're not going to run out of water. Yeah. Desalination is expensive too. That's expensive. It requires a lot of energy. Well, I remember at the time years ago, people would ask and we priced it out and I think it was about a hundred. I feel like a lot of people just accepted getting ripped off by their bank. Monthly fees, overdraft fees, ATM fees, like why are you paying money just to use your own money? That's why Chime caught my attention. Chime is changing the way people bank with fee free banking built for you, not the bank. 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And up to 80% of our portfolio now would have some sort of solar component to use. So we're agnostic. Whatever the right most cost-effective water technology is that provides clean water in a sustainable way, we'll adopt. If desal at some point was viable. For our work, we'd be able to adopt. Right now, solar is really viable. Solar is. Yeah, I mean, the solar, basically, you're getting water out of the ground. The deeper you go, often the more water you can get. Then you got to bring it to the surface. So if the water is only maybe 100 feet deep, you can pump it out by hand. And you've seen those traditional African wells. Water is a couple hundred feet deep. It's the column of water is too heavy to bring it up by hand. So then you're putting in submersible pumps. Well, those need power. And then where's the water going? Well, normally you want to take it up to the top of a mountain or a hill to fill up giant reservoirs and then gravity will take it down to the villages. So you actually don't need any power coming down. You just need the power going up. So the solar is now powering these pumps, which have also come down in price. How deep are you going typically on most of these? Hundreds of feet. Hundreds of feet. Sometimes a hundred feet. So it could be like a 10-story building underground. You know, I tell people, imagine turning up in a village, you know, getting into an elevator and going to the negative 10th floor and there's a massive aquifer or maybe 30 forts. Dang, that's deep. So you need some serious equipment. Yeah. And the deeper you go, the more energy it requires to bring that column because the water is heavy up out of the earth. And you've been doing this for a while now, right? I've been doing it for almost 20 years, 20 years in September. So the podcast receives a lot of sponsorship inquiries and people coming on the show. I needed to find a program that helps systematize and organize all these applications and inquiries. 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So I was a former club promoter for 10 years in New York City. So I didn't have any backgrounds in starting a charity or even running a charity. And I started when I was 30 years old. I had left the clubs and I'd gone to volunteer in West Africa on a humanitarian mission. I was actually with a group of doctors and surgeons. And over the two years that I spent in West Africa, the biggest problem I saw was that there were more sick people than we had doctors. So we would turn thousands and thousands of sick people away. And then I learned, well, the reason that half of them were sick is because they were drinking dirty water. So I kind of had my Eureka moment by realizing, well, I have half the country is drinking disgusting water. And if half of the disease in the country is because people are drinking dirty water, why is no one working on this problem at scale? So I had kind of the thing that I wanted to do at 30 years old when I came back to New York. But I was talking to everyday people who worked at MTV or Chase Bank or Symphora or to magazine. And I realized they just didn't trust charities. They wanted to help. They had extra money to give. And they just didn't believe that their money would actually reach the people that the charities were marketing. And I thought, well, what if there was a new way? What if there was a new model? What if I could open up two separate bank accounts and promise the public that whether they gave a dollar or a million dollars, 100% of their money would go directly to build these water projects. And then in the other bank account, I would somehow convince entrepreneurs and business owners to pay for the overhead. The staff salaries, the flights, the Epson toner copy machine. And I believe that if I could run a really efficient, effective organization, entrepreneurs would pay those costs because they'd get an ROI on it. So that model was incredibly difficult. It did differentiate us between 99.99% of the charities in the world. But what I think we then almost fell into was the ability to use technology to prove where the money went. So because we would use all $61 of a donation to build a project, we built tech to track the $61 to that end village. So we were the first charity genre in the world to post every single completed project first on Google Earth and then on Google Maps. So we have over 220,000 published locations. So people can see the satellite images of the projects that their money went to. Because 100% of the money went there. And it's always a little more difficult to get people to pay for the staff and the behind-the-scenes costs. But we found great entrepreneurs, a lot of them in technology who said, I built a business. I know your business is only as good as your people. As the people you can recruit and retain, so we'll help you pay for that. Beautiful. The transparency is unheard of in the maturity space. Yeah, I mean, that was the idea. Let's build the world's most transparent charity, therefore restoring people's faith in giving. I think giving makes people's lives better. When you're generous and you can share your resources to end needless suffering in the world and then actually be connected to that, like, wow, my money did make a difference. I think we're making the donors' lives better as well. We're allowing them to use their resources to improve the human condition. Yeah, literally safe lives. And water is like an inarguable common good. It's not political. It's not... Republicans and Democrats can agree that people need water for sure. If you're a person of deep faith or you're an atheist, you could probably agree that humans need water to thrive. It is crazy in America. We're in a bubble, right? We don't even think about this being an issue. Water food. We don't. And I mean, I say sometimes I'm like, it's kind of crazy that we're looking for water on Mars. Really? Yeah, it's like, Elon needs water on Mars. Wow, that's why it's... Extra planets are alive 92 million miles away, right? It's like when we go up into space and we look down at this blue planet, 10% of the planet doesn't have the most basic need for human life met. And we just haven't solved the problem because we don't experience the problem. We experience pancreatic cancer and Alzheimer's and ALS and Parkinson's and we give to a lot of these causes because they've affected people that we know or that we love. I feel like a lot of people just accepted getting ripped off by their bank. Monthly fees, overdraft fees, ATM fees, like why are you paying money just to use your own money? That's why Chime caught my attention. Chime is changing the way people bank with fee free banking built for you, not the bank. No overdraft fees, no monthly fees and access to thousands of fee free ATMs. Honestly, the benefits are kind of stacked. 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I go to the Duane Reed and I buy pediolite and I bought pediolite popsicles because you need to rehydrate a kid who had food poisoning with clean water and electrolytes. Well, what happens in one of these villages is a child gets sick with diarrhea. All of the fluid leaves their body. The only way to make them well is to give them clean water, but they're still getting the same river water that made them sick in the first place. They literally die of dehydration. It's terrible. Because the thing that would save them and make them well is clean water is not available. Then they just continue to poison themselves. Yeah, that's crazy. If you never took that trip to Africa, you probably never would have started this. It's crazy. I used to sell Voss water in my iClubs for $10 a bottle. I remember people would come in and I was running clubs at the high end and people would come in and they'd buy a couple thousand dollar bottles of Kristall and some top shelf vodka. And oh, let's just buy 20 bottles of water. They would just sit there. The water would even be unopened at $10 a bottle because people were drinking the booze instead. That's nuts. The law has changed from those days. Night and day difference, honestly. Going from that, I feel like that's the other side of the world, right? My life and seeing all the worst in people. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think it's just the story that I was telling for 10 years when I was running 49 clubs was 40 night clubs. Yeah, over a decade, 18 to 28. It was a long period. I would tell a story that if you got past the velvet rope and you got into the club and you were sitting with a pretty boy or a pretty girl and you spent thousands of dollars on the top shelf alcohol, your life had profound meaning. You had arrived in the world and maybe the famous DJ was there that night. So I think for the last 20 years, I've been telling a very different story, promoting, but just something different. Like if you are generous, if you look around the world and say, how can I help? How can I use what I've been blessed with to help people in my local community, to help people in the global community? It's a different way of keeping score. Yeah. I mean, I was a transition. I imagine it was pretty difficult going from top of the. I was pretty burned out. I mean, I had a two pack a day marble red habit, a drug habit, a coke habit, a gambling habit, a pornography habit. I just I had kind of descended into, you know, the selfish hedonistic darkness of that culture over 10 years. And I kind of hated my life. I mean, I woke up one day and said, I'm 28. I mean, I might die. Like I might sniff the wrong thing. And if I died, the only thing I could imagine they'd put on my tombstone is here lies a selfish man who got a million people wasted. Maybe two million people. And I thought like, what a meaningless legacy. You know, if I don't make a dramatic change, my life will not have only had no impact. I've actually had a negative impact on the world. So I tried to make up for lost time. I think you've done it 10 full. And it was, you know, I was born into a conservative Christian family. My mom became an invalid when I was four. I was a holy child and invalid. She got carbon oxide poisoning. Oh, choose. And I almost died, but but her was sick for the rest of her life was was immunocompromised. So, you know, I think my childhood was this kind of I was in a bubble. If you're tired of paying for 10 different tools just to manage your podcast, leads, funnels, email, SMS and bookings, I've got something that'll change the game for you. Go high level is the all in one platform. Thousands of creators and entrepreneurs are using to run their entire business from one dashboard. No more app overload. No more misleads. 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Even though I had a BMW, somebody had a Bentley. You know, I could have a plane someday and somebody would have a bigger plane. My girlfriend was in the cover of L magazine. Somebody was in the cover of Vogue. And I just, I wanted to get out. I wanted to kind of, the music stopped and I wanted, I wanted to leave. Yeah, social media makes it easy to be in that comparative mind. So how did you get out of that? Well, you know, this is this is 20 years ago. So social media, social media wasn't the same back then. It wasn't even around back then. But I think, you know, we tried to use social media for good. We were the first charity to get a million Twitter followers. We were the first charity in the world to use Instagram. So Cherry Water has tried to, you know, maybe compete against the algorithm, which just says, you know, what do you want? Let me just give you more of what you want and try and sell you more things. You know, we've tried to tell stories of people impacting the world around them through their kindness, through their unselfishness, through their generosity. Yeah, you're doing good things. Have you ever done anything with Mr. Beast? We haven't. He did some, some stuff with water. He raised some awareness. He, he's a different organization, but I did, did some great work and got some young people to, to care about the issue. Yeah, which is good. I see it as a net positive. Oh, for sure. I mean, that's the problem. Nobody, nobody really cares about the issue of water because everybody has water. Right. So it's, you know, I tell my team, just assume that zero people in the world woke up today and took the clean water out of the refrigerator and cold filtered as they pressed the little lever, looked at their pool in the backyard, brushed their teeth, took their long shower, you know, pressed go on their dishwasher for the three hour cycle and said, you know, what, I'm so grateful for the clean water that, that I enjoy every day. Let me go make that possible for 700 million. Let me go find a water chair. You know, who I can just bless others with that clean water. Yeah, nobody comes to us. So, so we have to interrupt them. And I'd say it's harder than any time before in our 20 years to interrupt people, to get them to care. Because there's so much noise coming. There's so much coming at us. I mean, you've never gotten more emails than you have at this point in history. You've never gotten more DMs. There's never more things coming at you. Right. If it's, you know, visual, you sit in a cab now, there's three screens asking you to play video games, right? We're just kind of being bombarded with marketing. And I think that really pushes out that, that part for a lot of people that feels like they have the bandwidth to care about others. Yeah, that mixed with the distrust of charity mixed with the current economy. And I feel like a lot of people just accepted getting ripped off by their bank. Monthly fees, overdraft fees, ATM fees, like why are you paying money just to use your own money? That's why Chime caught my attention. Chime is changing the way people bank with fee free banking built for you, not the bank. No overdraft fees, no monthly fees and access to thousands of fee free ATMs. Honestly, the benefits are kind of stacked. Direct deposit Chime members can get up to $1,150 in annual rewards. Be free. 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We have a program, a community called The Spring where we ask people in the same way they sign up for Netflix or Hulu or Spotify and enjoy the movies and the music or their magazine content. Like, why don't you just give every single month and every month someone gets clean water? And if it's a college kid who can give $10 a month, well every four months you have changed a human's life. An actual person went from drinking dirty water to clean water. You have provided an inarguable good, a common good for a human. And we've tried to design the systems and the technology to make those connections and to show people where their $40 went. It went to Malawi, to this village where these people live. That's beautiful. Have you done anything in the US to mask the quinn? We haven't done anything in the US. There's a couple charities who work on Native American lands and then a little bit in Appalachia. But what we're seeing in America officially has 100% water coverage. What does that mean? It means that everybody in America is supposed to have clean water. If you find some pockets, it's an aberration. When Flint happened, what was actually needed to remedy that was about a billion dollars of infrastructure to be dug up and replaced while. So it wasn't, and FEMA and the government actually took care of that. So there was a gap there where we were sending people to local charities in Michigan who were providing water in that stop. But the situations we've heard about in Appalachia, it's people might not have running water in their home, but they're not going to a swamp. They're not walking eight hours to a river. They're going to the 7-Eleven and they're filling up a bucket with a hose. It's inconvenient, but they're not dying a bad bucket. Which countries are the worst right now for water? About a third of the problem is in Africa. About a third of the problem is in India. About a third of the problem is in Southeast Asia. Everyone in South America have made huge gains. There's a little bit there, but the Perus and Honduras and Guatemala have made huge progress. How did they pull it off so effectively? The governments are investing foreign aid. These countries are richer than many of these countries in Africa. So money. Money. It's a problem. It is not a complex problem. As I say, often there's not a single person alive right now who we cannot definitively bring clean water to. No one is beyond help. We're not scratching our head just saying, well, they're living in too remote of a village. Now it costs $20 to reach somebody and it might cost $80 to reach someone else, but it's always possible. There are many other things that we're unsure will ever find a cure for that. We spend billions of dollars of research and looking for cures and labs and test tubes and centrifuges. We have the cure for water. We just haven't built the will to deliver the cure to solve the problem. Have you done the ballpark math? Yeah. 100 billion to solve. 100 billion would give everybody clean water. Really? 100 billion. Now you remember during stimulus, we printed a trillion dollars a couple times. Somebody told me the other day we've sent over $100 billion of aid to Ukraine. Not a political statement, but I don't know that we'll get exactly what we wanted. Are we happy with that $100 billion to date? Probably not. There's so much capital that's out there, but again, there was a reason for spending that money. There was a reason for printing trillion dollars of stimulus. We haven't really mobilized people around the reason for giving the poorest 10% of the world water, which is our mission every day. You get people to care. Yeah. In 20 years, you did one out of 100. I'm doing that. Now, if you take the 700 million people that don't have water and are 21 million, it's about 1.33. Oh, about 3.5% percent. 3% of the way there. That's just one company. That's one organization. I'm sure there's others. I don't think they're big, but... Yeah. There are. I don't think they're big, but... Yeah. There's a bunch of other great orgs out there. Like you said, we want everybody to succeed. If they're working with churches or if they're working with synagogues or faith communities or where a lot of these organizations have a different niche, we want them all to grow. There was a fire holding on Twitter. I don't know if you saw with Elon. Some guy was like, how much would it cost to solve world hunger? David Beasley World Food Program was years ago. Yeah. Then Elon said, I would do it, but no one can actually execute it or something like that. Yeah. Well, it's... It always starts... I think that's a little bit of a cop out. It always starts with the order. Let's say your business was building $3 billion stadiums, football stadiums. You could do one a year. Let's just say with your whole team in the infrastructure. Okay. Well, if I place an order for 10, you're going to build them. You're going to figure out how to do them as fast as possible. You're going to have to scale up your team and your operation. You're going to probably fly to Peoria and meet with the CEO of Caterpillar and put in a billion dollar heavy equipment order. You're not going to do them in a year. You're not going to do them in two years, but you're probably going to do them in four or five years. You're going to ramp up your organization, but that's because the order came in. Highile by 10 of your stadiums. I think had Elon put the order in for ending world hunger, the organizations would have scaled over 3, 5, 7, 10 years to deploy that capital. No, they can't take it right now. You can't build 10 right now. You just don't have the teams and the equipment and the infrastructure. It's always ... Now, to like and to use that analogy, where we are today is we have the ability to build a stadium a year and it takes us about five years to get the funding to do the one stadium. We are undercapacitated as a sector. We can do more work if we had more money. Oh, so you have the ... The money is the challenge. Oh, interesting. You have the team, the pack. Not 10X, but two or three X for sure. Okay. If you doubled or tripled the money that we were able to raise every year, we could easily put that into our network. We have 55 local partners, 7,000 local staff. Wow. If it was a 10 or 20X commitment, if we all got that $100 billion commitment over a period of 10 years, we'd solve the problem in a decade. This might be solved within our lifetime. I hope so. There's not a single philanthropist of note in the world that has made water their cost. Why do you think that is? Because they've never experienced the problem. The camera lady. I think they think about ... We have climate people. We have Malare. Gates in the day, I think could have been a good candidate. They picked sanitation. They actually picked toilets as the lane. Well, Gates people said, look, there's 700 million people without water, but there's 2 billion people without a toilet. We think the institutional harder challenge is sanitation. Today, we're running toilet campaigns. Interesting. There's no progress there. There's toilets you could live without, but water, that's kind of ... I mean, if someone made a billion dollar gift, a philanthropic commitment to water, they would be the largest in the history of the world. I feel like a lot of people just accepted getting ripped off by their bank. Monthly fees, overdraft fees, ATM fees. Why are you paying money just to use your own money? That's why Chime caught my attention. Chime is changing the way people bank with fee-free banking built for you, not the bank. No overdraft fees, no monthly fees, and access to thousands of fee-free ATMs. Honestly, the benefits are kind of stacked. With direct deposit, Chime members can get up to $1,150 in annual rewards, fee-free. 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I'm doing it indirectly. It's all a little bit of a doof to what we've helped. 21 million people being that conduit, kind of being the way to do that. But yeah, I pitched that. When it gets to people, I'm like, there was actually a donor, 65-year-old entrepreneur, amazing guy built hotels and water parks and conference centers. He had offered to do 100 communities with clean water, which is a million dollars. And I asked him, instead of making a million dollar gift to consider helping a million people instead. And he said, how much is that? I said, well, it's $50 million. And he thought about it a couple of days later. He said, hey, I think I could do that in seven years. And it's been an amazing journey with him and his family and his grandkids and his businesses and getting the whole company involved. And at the end, seven years from now or so, they will have absolutely transformed 1 million lives on planet Earth for the better. I want to run that kind of company. I want to work at that kind of company that cares about people. Well, there's a lot of wins there because you're helping people. Obviously, you get the tax right off. There's a lot of... Yeah, but nobody has to do that, right? You didn't even have to help 100 villages. So I think that's... I think a lot of charity founders, they walk around with a chip on their shoulder because how could people be driving the Ferrari and not giving? Or how could you have four houses? How could you fly private in the face of so much suffering? And I think nobody has to give a single dollar to charity water. We are trying to inspire people to tell stories that inspire people to give. We almost want to compete with the Bentley and say, you know, you can buy a Bentley. You could also change 10,000 human lives. Maybe you could do both. But I kind of need to make the 10,000 human lives as epic, if not more epic, than the tangible car that they can drive around and be admired by their friends. Yeah. Yeah, you got to reframe the mindset, right? Because we're in a very materialistic society these days, especially with social media. But I think people know that it doesn't make them happy. You know, we've all bought that thing. But I still feel like people got experience at first. Yeah. We've all had that experience where the thing we thought we would never get, we finally got. And it didn't feel like we thought it would. 100%. And then there was the next thing to get. And then there was the next thing to get. Right? So I think we all know that there is more. There's more than just the rat race of keeping up with the person we saw on social media who has a little more. The person in our sector who's got a bigger company or more employees or better EBITDA or the better lifestyle. Yeah. When I give a homeless person food or help someone in need with whatever, you can't recreate that feeling through buying something I noticed. You know what I mean? It's general. It's like very, very good for you. Dude, little barflies in my stomach when I do you all like that. And I remember Simon Sinek, who's been a longtime friend and donor, said to me in Elevator once he said, you know, the more you give, the more you give. It's almost like this muscle, right? The more you do that, the more you want to do that, the more you want to find a homeless person, the more you want to lift somebody up, the more you want to use your position of just being blessed and to help others, to bless others. Karma, right? Just yeah, helping, you know, how can we help? How can we use what we've been given to help others? This is kind of a simple question to ask versus how much can we accumulate? For sure. And I think, you know, a lot of people just find themselves, I was certainly just almost enslaved to the constant desire for more. And there's no finish line. Like there's no end point. Someone's always going to have more. Even if you're the richest person in the world, someone has more on another El, a better family or, you know, kids who love them more or, you know, something that you want. So there's no, I remember coming across the anecdote. It was either Rockefeller or JP Morgan, one of the richest men in the world of like, you know, the robber barons. And they asked him, you know, so how much is enough? And he said, just a little more, just a little more. That's powerful. And I, you know, I would love to hear that with a giving, you know. Hey, how much is enough to give, Sean? And I want you to say, just give a little more, just give a little more. And it would completely transform your life. I've seen it transform. I've seen generosity transform people's lives. I think it always comes back. It's not immediate, but I think the universe works in mysterious ways. Like, you know, what's the latest thing you're focused on with the company? Are you partnering? We turned 20 in September. So we're doing some fun look backs, like going and finding people who benefit it from the very first water projects and how their lives changed over two decades. I'm excited about that. I think I'm, you know, we kind of have three ways people engage with us. There's the monthly giving, the spring community. You know, in a perfect world, I mean, there's, you know, there's hundreds of millions of people that are paying for music every single month. There's hundreds of millions of people paying for TV. You know, we have 50,000 people that are, that are paying for clean water for humans. So I guess I, I'm so excited about everyday people giving 10, 20, 40 dollars a month, because I just have to believe like there's, there's so much possible. Like the Tam on humans who could believe in clean water and give a little something consistently is huge. So I'm spending a lot of time talking about the spring and inviting people into that. Now we have people who give 10 grand and they knock out a community. Um, and then we have people who actually want to help us build the organization. And, um, and that's a third program as well. So I'm really just, I'm, I'm trying to grow. If you told me that, you know, we would have only helped 21 million people in 20 years. I would have said, we're going to have a much bigger impact than that. I mean, we're going to be, you know, at a billion, we're going to have solved the problem by now. It's a million a year, still really good. Not enough, not enough, not enough. So I hope we're in the second inning. You know, I hope that the best is yet to come. And there is a compounding interest. I remember looking, this is, this is years ago, but I looked at the 27 year chart of Amazon. In the first 20 years, it was literally a straight line. Nothing happened. They'd come in and never made any money. You know, Jeff's letters were famous. He's like, we're, we're just investing back in the business. We're not profitable. We're investing, we're investing. And then you see this absolute hockey stick had in year 27, had he quit in year 20, he would have left 97% of the value unrealized, created 3% of the company's value in the first two decades, 97% of the subsequent seven years. So, you know, I don't know that charity water will have that hockey stick growth, but I, I love the idea that if you keep showing up, you stay true to your values, you keep telling the story, you keep inviting people in, you never freaking know. Playing the long game on here 20 years, not a lot of companies make it that long too. You know. Yeah, well, the goal was to bring everybody on earth clean water, not to, you know, drop the mic at, at any sort of milestone, 10 or 20 million or even 100 million. So you got to keep fighting until, until everybody on earth has clean water. It seems like such common sense, you know. Well, you got a new donor in me. Awesome. Donate some money for sure. Awesome. How else can people keep up with you? Yeah, people can, people can go to, we actually have an amazing film that's gotten 150 million views. So that's something people can watch and then share. We have a tiny marketing budget. So it's really word of mouth. That's so helpful. Is it on? That's at thespring.com. And the film is called The Spring. And then we're just charitywater.org. We'd love, love people to learn more, share, share the movie, you know, join, join us if you can. Yeah, well, I'll do it. I'll post. Thanks for your time today. I appreciate what you're doing. Having a world. Check them out guys. If you learned anything from this episode or got any value at all, please share this episode with a friend. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us grow the podcast. And it means a lot to us. Thank you so much. In business, I'm always trying to get the best outcome for the best price. 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