Randy Moss on Cowboys Revenge Game, Edelnut Origins, Wideout Woes & an All Dog NFL Team | EP 181

Jason, when it was time for you to call it quits, what's the number one thing in your mind you knew you were going to miss about the game? I knew I was going to miss competing. You see, is Ellie in the background? This is so funny. Do you go upstairs, Graham? No? Why not? Is that the oldest one? This is my second. You say hi. You say hi to the greatest receiver ever to play football? Say hi to Randy Moss. Are you guys going to pick up Wyatt right now? Hi, Randy Moss. so epic hello sweetheart how are you oh that was gold man bye man love you okay okay okay okay okay baby nice welcome back to new hi it's a wondery show brought to you by Expedia, the one place you go to go places. You can go anywhere, and it helps you figure out everything else to do while you're on the go, and it's where you go to do that. We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelly. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, representing the U.S. of A. Again, subscribe on YouTube, 1-3+, wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S. We got a bunch of fun clips throughout the week, and that's where I like to watch the show, is the fun clips. So make sure you Follow us on all social media. And Jason is now going to tell the people that are listening to this show what we have coming up. How to 92% is we got another amazing episode for you guys. Spotted to some of your fan mentions. And we're also going to build an NFL roster entirely out of dogs. Ooh. Oh, Randy Moss is here. That's right, baby. Oh, you got Moss. That's right. That's right. Straight cash, homie. Before we get into that, let's get into a little bit of that new news. Yeah. New news. New news. We are pre-taping this one. I'm sorry. No real new news. Currently, we're on location grabbing some incredible guest conversation. Not saying who it is, but we might be one of the goats of a sport that you love. Ooh. Yeah. So I guess that's the new news. Yeah. All right. Nice. Let's keep this thing moving into Fan Mentions. Fan Mentions is brought to you by one of our favorite drinks of all time. I think Ed Kelsey might be one of the top buyers of this drink, at least the diet version. It's brought to you by Pepsi. Shout out to Pepsi. All right. Here, NFL put out the NFL combine then and now. How about that? Look at these pictures. Golly, I was so fat. You were fat? You're not fat in this photo? It's not the best photo. Yeah, the old straight on where you can see the double chin. How much did you weigh in that photo? I was a good 268, I think. I'm not sure. What was my combine height and weight? I was 6'3", 7'8", and I think I was like 258 or something. like that you're six four and uh seven eights yeah six four seven eights yeah yeah either way yeah oh man did you scroll down a look further jesus jason you forget the trimmer why do you look so different why is your nose so fucking thin crooked dude i look horrendous why do you look like this i don't know i look like i'm gonna get if you showed me that picture back of the day I'd be like, that's not my brother. That guy's getting strip searched for sure. It's like the NFL purposely tries to get the most unflattering pictures of rookies. I don't know that it would have mattered what angle they got to me. I think I was just an ugly son of a bitch. He really grew into being a nice, handsome boy. So handsome. Look at you on the right there. You're all golden. You get some sun. Have you been at the shore? Yes. Yes. Yes. Those pictures are always taken in the heat of summer. That first one on the left is February. February and Cincinnati training for the job of your life. Did you see the other guys they put out? No. I'll run through them real quick. Hold on. Who else we got? Ooh, Josh Allen. Jay Allen. Jay Allen don't look too bad. Smooth count right there. No. Looks more artistic now. Derek Henry. Exactly the same. Don't see any difference at all. Young King Henry. Jedha. Young Jedha. A-Raj. Not much difference. Kind of has a Lloyd Christmas. Go back. Got the Lloyd Christmas going on there. a little bit. Yeah, the straight across. I mean, it kind of looks similar. All right, all right. What do we got next? What do we got next? Hello. This guy will never age. He'll look like this until he's fucking 90 years old. I think you're right. I think you're right. Burrow. Burrow. I mean, I feel like Joey Burrow. Yeah, just again, another guy who probably trained up north. Didn't get a lot of sun. Second one, a little bit more sun. CMC. Another guy is going to look the exact same until he's fucking 90 years old. Kind of look like a military cadet. Oh, Patty Mahomes. Patty Mahomes. Still looks the same. Still looks the same. Yeah, not a big difference. Looks like he's got a billion-dollar smile, though. He's much happier. Much happier man in Adidas gear now than he was in Under Armour back then. Baker. Baker looks pretty similar. Yeah, Baker looks pretty similar. A little bit of a beard. Yeah. Oh, that boy. George has just been growing his hair ever since. He just hasn't stopped. is there G kiddo man what he do fucking love that guy oh shit nice nice glad we glad we look different there's one thing for sure is that at the combine they take the most unflattering angle and lighting picture they possibly can especially boost that morale for us pale white in the winter kind of guys yeah yes let's move on to everyone loving Jason's content creator oh yeah Yeah, you are. I'm telling you, you're fucking crushing it with the content right now. Yeah. Yeah. Click this link real quick, Brandon. I think Jason Kelsey is quickly becoming one of my favorite follows on TikTok because everything he posts, it just kind of feels like either a grandpa decided to record a video and maybe did it on accident and posted it, or a toddler took his mom's phone and is running around filming everything and just posting it without editing it. Like his last video I saw was him just like taking the subway. That's it. It's like those progressive commercials where it's like, you're slowly turning into your parents and they're trying not to let you do it. I mean, I feel like a grandpa using TikTok. I really do not get it one bit. You've got to be a special, like to be really like good at it. You got to be a special version of person, I think. And you are, you're a very special version of somebody. You're authentic. And that's what people fucking love the most about you in terms of the content you create. I'm not going to lie. I'm right there with them, dude. I'll fucking die laughing at everything you do, whether it's riding the subway or creating a garage beer commercial about beer powder. It's fucking gold, man. The subway was fun. It was a great subway. I thought it was a fun video. I don't know. It was fun. And you knew exactly what you were doing. you knew what the people wanted out of you. Kylie was like, will you fucking stop? Like, do you have any idea how long it took me to make that dumbass video? That's the one thing I'll always feel so fucking dumb, man. There was a, there was a point early on in my career when like the reels and everything really started getting going and I, I would make them and then I wouldn't make them. And then I would just do one because I felt like I had to keep it going. And then it was just, there was so many like stories that I just felt were so pointless and some of the shit i was doing was so pointless i just felt dumb doing it and you're clearly having a blast with it it's the best dude not feeling dumb is like one of your superpowers oh no i mean i feel dumb all the time i feel dumb wearing this hat right now it looks great just embraced it from our new heights reddit page our fantasy forfeit this year all right recreating the gq shoot uh for a calendar this is fucking nice i mean that's fucking pretty damn good. I mean, he's got a fucking down pat. Yeah, man. He's got the head tilt, all of it. He's got the chest hair. He's got the gut. He's got the sloppy tits. He's fucking great, dude. Very nice. Very nicely done. No AI allowed. Love that. We're based in Glasgow, Scotland. Oh, Scotland. Nice. Dude, to try and find somewhere in Scotland that resembled that. Looks like Florida. Yeah, exactly. That's pretty good right there. Well done. Very well done. How do you know? Yeah, I got a shout out from The Simpsons. How about this, Trav? Did you see this? No, I did not. Can you please? I mean, I didn't get a shout out. They just like mentioned my existence, which is fucking crazy. That's a shout out of my book. That's a shout out of my book. We fucking grew up in the heart of The Simpsons, man. Not that it's not still the heart of The Simpsons because they're still rolling, but. Awesome things for me to do in Philadelphia. Eat cheese steaks, hoagies, pretzels, water ice. Rip off a piece of Jason Kelsey's beers. Nice, dude. You're just going to have random people coming up to you trying to fucking yank your beard off? If it's Marge or anybody with the symptoms, yeah, I'm in. That's pretty good right there. All right, that does it for Fan Mentions brought to you by Pepsi. All right, let's get into this Randy Moss interview, baby. Straight cash, homie. I've never been more excited. Here we go. Our guest today is 6'4", wide receiver from Rand, West Virginia. he's a four-time all-pro six-time pro bowler the 1998 offensive rookie of the year and the 2007 comeback player of the year he holds the record for the most receiving touchdowns in a single season he's second all-time in career touchdowns fourth all-time in career receiving yards and he is a member of the 2018 class of the pro football hall of fame just a legend we didn't pay him to come on our show but if we did we'd be using straight cash homie that's right Hey, Cash, homie, let's go. 92%ers, please welcome Randy Moss. Let's go. Hey, what's up, fellas? Thanks for having me, man. You crazy, dude. You got me ready to play again. Let's go. That's all I'm trying to do, get them juices ready. We know you could go out there and break somebody off, man. You already know. Just throw it up, baby. Just throw it up. Thanks for having me on, guys, man. I know y'all got the number one podcast out there. And, you know, I really don't do many podcasts, right? But y'all, y'all two, the brothers, the realness of what y'all done put on the field and out the field, yeah, I got to come and show y'all some love, man. So thanks for having me on. That's why you're the realest, big guy. We can't thank you enough. You already know you're an absolute legend in the NFL and even more so just being you. Everybody has seen the personality kind of come out since the NFL. and it's just it's so cool to have you on this show with us man because you are you guys the the legends that we grew up watching and everything getting you guys on this show is like taking me back to my childhood and like I'm living out a dream I didn't even know it was possible man so I appreciate you joining us today brother yeah no doubt no doubt it's the personality off the field like the the entire essence of Randy I mean you are the greatest highlight player in the history of the NFL. Like, is there anybody else that has better highlights than Randy Moss? There's an entire catch. Anytime somebody goes up and gets it. You got Moss. If you're talking about my position, no, but if you're talking about players that ever played the game, I mean, I, I think, I think, uh, Barry Sanders was a human highlight reel, but, uh, but you know, you're talking about my position. No. Um, but, but at the same, but at the same time, guys, you know, just, just being able to stay grounded, keep myself grounded. And it's, it's, it was really about the work you put in, you know, and, uh, you know, a lot of people, you know, don't really understand my background in the sport of basketball. And the thing that I've always tried to tell people, Jason, was that, and Trav, you, you, I've seen it in your game, in the field of play, you know, where you have 50, 60, 70 yards to go before you score. That's when I use my quickness, you know, my elusiveness and my speed. But once you get down to the red zone, it's all about boxing out, body placement, going up and get the rebound. So that's where I put the game of basketball into my game. And that's where, that's why I say if you put in the hard work, then hard work pays off. So like I said, the plays that I make, hey, I put the work in to be able to make those plays. We can't talk hoops without talking about your West Virginia days in high school, rocking with Jason Williams, man. Legendary duo. Growing up, did you guys both know that you guys had like something special that both of you were going to go pro in your respective sports? Me and Jason, like a quick short story. Jason, while we were in elementary school, we played, I think, two years of Pop Warner against one another. And Jason was a phenomenal football player, phenomenal athlete. And every sport that I played, Jason played. Or every sport he played, I played. The only sport Jason really didn't play or do was track. As far as baseball, basketball, and football, you know, he excelled at all three of the sports just like I did. You know, you're talking about honorable mentions, all conference and things like that. Jason was that type of athlete. But I think he got kind of discouraged my sophomore year, his junior year, where the quarterback was already sort of in place. So he could really focus on basketball. So that was like Jason's last year of playing football was his 11th grade year or his 10th grade year. So we played AAU basketball. We traveled the country with one another. But I think the craziest moment for me was just playing against a lot of these former NBA players that we played against in middle school and in high school. And then, of course, that I branched off and made it to the NFL. But just seeing some of the guys that we played against in AAU excel on a professional level. So that was kind of like some crazy surreal moments at the same time. That's so dope, man. It's awesome. It's awesome you were talking about the crossover. Guys like Devontae Adams talks about how in his route, he's thinking as if he's like a ball handler on the court. Right. And his quickness and how he switches up his tempo to make it seem more effective and more fluent. And it's awesome to hear you say that because I think a lot of guys get caught up in high school and even younger parents are trying to get them to just focus on one sport. But me and Jason are huge on, big advocates on making sure you get out there, play all the sports, get an understanding of the hand-eye and all these different sports and not focus on them until after, I don't know, middle school or high school or whichever one you choose to prolong in college. There's carryover for sure. You learn from one sport, you can take it and you can apply it to another one. Like, I feel like I'm a better old lineman because I did two years of wrestling in middle school. Right. Now, I don't know if that's real or not, but you learn about leverage when you wrestle. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. Randy, he was the one you didn't want to fucking see out there, man. I can only imagine. This guy had pimples all over his face. As soon as you started wrestling with him, the pimples are popping, and the blood and pus is coming down his face. This fucking guy. Oh, man. Where's the mama that from? He's sweating his ass off. He's the sweaty mess, and he's just purposely not wearing deodorant. I'm going to make you feel me. I'm going to make you feel me. He's a nasty son of a buck, man. Athletes should leave their options open, you know, because like you said, you know, Jason, that you say that your position at center where leverage is very important is like, like you really can hang your hat on. Yeah, man, if I wouldn't have done wrestling, then my game would have been what is a professional. So, I mean, like you said, you've been able to take another sport and then put it into your professional sport. Hey, man, that says a lot. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's and it works for all of them. Like, I mean, basketball definitely feels like the most applicable, especially if you got ball skills, complete athleticism, most of the best receivers, tight ends. I feel like a lot of those guys were hoopers growing up. It just feels like there's a big carryover. But I do want to go back a little bit to those days with Jason Williams. What is it about guys from West Virginia? I golfed with this dude and had the most fun outing of my life at the Jerome Bettis Golf out in this past year. It feels like you're the same way. It feels like Nick Saban, even hearing him talk. like there's a authenticity and a realness that there's, I don't even know how to describe it, but I just, it's, it feels like I love everybody that I meet from West Virginia. And I don't exactly know why, what is it about West Virginia that it feels like guys that come out of it? Like they're not trying to be anything. They're, they're very grounded in who they are. They're proud of who they are and they don't take shit from nobody. That's pretty much the vibe I get from everybody. That is that is us. But to answer your question, I just think that if you come from humble beginnings, I think that really what's what keeps a person grounded. And I think that everyone that I've seen from West Virginia, all the celebrities, you know, just being humbled and keep it grounded, because one of the biggest things that I said in my Hall of Fame speech back in 2018, just growing up and nobody caring about who I was or who we were. You know, I grew up in an incorporated community and still to this day, my community is still incorporated. So I just think that, you know, being able to grow up in some some real, you know, type of surroundings and understanding what's real in life. You learn that at a very young age coming out of the state of West Virginia and not just where I'm from in the county. I just think as the whole state as a whole and what you see is what you get. So I know there's a lot of people, you know, struggling back at home. And, you know, that's one of the things that really kept me grounded, guys, of, you know, going back and doing charity events and going back home. I even took my Hall of Fame jacket. I even took my Hall of Fame jacket back home. And the reason why, because I wanted to give the kids something, something real to see, something real to touch. And it's like back where you guys are from. It's like when you see the Kelsey brothers, you know, on television playing, winning Super Bowls. Now you're seeing them, you know, endorsing themselves. is kind of like when you go back home and seeing people that you grew up with or their children and things like that. So I just want to be able to give hope to people, you know, that grew up like I did. So I just think that, you know, it just answers your question about people being from West Virginia. I know what it's like. I know what it's like, you know, when it comes to hard times. And that's something that I'll never forget. And I try to relay that message, you know, throughout my whole life. I love that, Randy. That is so good. We got to get into a little bit of a story that Julian Edelman told us. All right. Our guy, our guy, our guy friend of the show, you played with him as a rookie. I couldn't, I couldn't imagine having a better vet than the Randy Moss in the building. And he said he, you nicknamed him Edelnut? Edelnut. That's Edelnut. Well, he came in. Where'd that come from? I don't know where Edelnut, Edelman, I don't, I know it just sounds crazy, but you know, you know how the comedy and jokesters in the locker room. You just try to find humor day to day just to get your day by. He tells a story about me being on the phone with, he calls it Mama Moss. And, you know, just briefly, you know, I grew up in, you know, and, you know, of course in Rand, West Virginia, and, you know, my mom, we grew up in a church and, you know, I grew up a drummer. And so when it, when it, when it comes to, you know, profanity and things like that, you know, my mom being the Christian she is, She doesn't want any swearing going on nowhere around her. So at that time, at that time, I'm in the locker room and Julian's behind me cussing. I forgot who he was talking to, but he would be allowed. But he seen me on my phone and I was smiling and I was basically telling him to, you know, be quiet, to hold on. And I'm on the phone. And then he was like, oh, what? You know, so it was like one of those crazy moments that I would hear later from my mom. Randy, who was that in the background swearing? I was like, oh my God. That was one of those crazy moments that I had to hear from my mama later on in life. Who was in the background swearing? That's where that moment came from. It was actually a crazy moment at game time. That's awesome. When you saw Julian come in, because he was a quarterback at Kent State, man, did you see something in him immediately? Did he have that it factor when he walked in the building? The thing about New England and how they were running their offense about before I became a Patriot, you look at all those small, shifty receivers. You have the small, shifty running backs. You know, they had a guy like Kevin Falken, and then they brought in later Sweet Feet White and those other guys. But then, you know, just looking at the past before I became a Patriot, they had a guy by the name of Troy Brown, went to Marshall. Yeah. I studied his game. I was a big fan of his. And I was just looking at Troy was, I think Troy was coming off a knee surgery. So we bring in myself, we bring in Welker and Edelman at the same time. So they're trying to figure out, you know, where they can put Julian Edelman coming out of Kent State as a quarterback. So all the gadget plays they knew they had in Julian. But I just think being a Swiss Army knife of getting in and out of clots, he had to learn that. And I didn't have a problem throughout a 14-year career of teaching a guy the game. I think it's the more you know, the better it helps you as a team. And so I really didn't have a problem with Edelman or anybody teaching him the game. And I think that I just saw, you know, his speed, his swiftness. But at the same time, you guys know as a young rookie, his willingness to want to learn the game. So that's really what took me over the top with him. And then he tells a story about me giving him money to feed the guys. And, you know, your late draft picks, some guys might be undrafted, you know, free agent, but they still got to chip in to feed the veterans. So I just thought at that time, and I don't know how much he was making, but that's always been my heart just for the guys. You know how the vets get. You know how we get. The vets will be ruthless. Especially, y'all, the unalignment. You know, the donuts, the food, whatever's not there, you guys will go crazy. So that's what I was thinking about. That's right. But that's awesome, man. All right, let's flash it back a little bit to West Virginia again. All right. So you're 1994 West Virginia Player of the Year in football, also won the West Virginia Player of the Year in basketball twice. You said you were more of a hooper. At what point did it transition? Did you know football was the future? The summer of 94. Jason, Nike used to run a camp where they invite the best players around the country to a remote location and just ball for the weekend. Yeah. Well, Jason was, you know, he's a year older than me and I always played a year up. Most guys do when it comes to like AU and things like that So so the following year I went to the Nike camp I got the invite me and another guy by the name of Gene neighbors ended up going to LSU playing point guard for them And speaking of Gene, Gene was the only guy that I ever seen give Jason fits as a point guard. They used to go at it. And if you ever asked Jason, say, Jason, did you and Gene neighbors used to go at it? Yeah, they used to go at it. So I go to Nike camp and, you know, I'm sitting up there not really feeling good about it because I'm seeing, you know, Kevin Darnett, I'm just seeing guys, you know, 6'7", 6'11", 7-footers. And so I'm sitting up here asking myself, can I compete? Do I belong here? So at the time, you know, we were sitting here talking about, you know, keeping your options open of playing all the sports you can actually play. Well, out of a seasonal athlete, just like maybe you guys were. Whatever season it was, that's what sport I played. Yes. Those guys, like Kevin Garnett, there was a guy by the name of Ron Mercer out in Tennessee, ended up playing for the Chicago Bulls. Oh, those guys were all year-round gym rat. So that year, we ended up playing the team out of California that had the number one-ranked underclassman by the name of Shea Cotton. If you don't believe him, you can Google it. Shea Cotton. Shea Cotton. There's only been three phenoms in the history that I've been living. Moses Malone, Shea Cotton, LeBron James. They're the only three phenoms that I've ever heard about. I've seen two of them. I didn't see Moses back when he was in high school, but I've seen LeBron and I've seen Shea, and he was a phenom. But anyways, we play them. He's a left-hander. Well, he embarrasses me. I come back. Yeah, I mean, he totally, totally, totally embarrasses me. This guy is an underclassman, but he's the number one rated player in the country. But like I say, Kevin Garnett was the number one rated player because he was a senior that year. I think Shea was maybe a sophomore that year, but he's the number one player. Anyways, I get embarrassed. So then I'm already feeling a certain type of way. Well, we get a rain delay. I'm on a court. Kevin Garnett's out there playing. So me and him somehow get into a one-on-one match. I asked Kevin, does he remember this? And he kind of looked at me. I was like, well, Kevin, I've got great memory. I remember like it was yesterday. So using my speed with basketball, guys, I try to get to the rim and try to lay it up as high as I possibly could over the white box. Okay? Okay. Man, you got to be up there. Kevin Garnett gets up on the basketball, Jason, and pins my ball with the palm of his hand. So I'm already feeling discouraged from Shea Cotton and what he did to me. And now Kevin Garnett did this to me. So then when I go back home, they say, Hey, man, you went to Nike Camp Moss. How did it go? I said, football player. That's what I'm going to mean. I'm saying, man, I'm ready for football. Yes, I am. And it's really a true story. I mean, I'm putting a little bit of humor into it. But at the same time, that was a true story that what happened to me that really changed my mind of playing basketball. And then it's like, dude, I don't even think I can compete with those guys. So let me stick to football. That is amazing. That's such a good story. KG ended up going straight to the NBA from there, right? Well, yeah, from high school. But see, the thing about it, it was kind of crazy because we had a couple of nights out where we seen each other. And of course, we supported one another. We ended up taking the iconic picture together. But like I said, I just told, you know, just Kevin, just more of the of the things that when you grow up playing against certain guys, you know, I get fueled. I was fueled in hype seeing other guys that I played and competed against to make it to the next level. And that's when I started, you know, when I got to college and seeing Kevin on that level. And I was like, hey, man, I could really compete. And I remember going to Florida State my freshman year, you know, coming out of West Virginia where the talk is, you know, we don't we don't breed athletes. And if you do, they don't compete, you know. So I think that I had a lot of questions about my game at Florida State. But then I left Florida State, went to Marshall, and I had a lot of confidence. And the reason why I had a lot of confidence, because a lot of the guys professionally came back to Florida State and trained. Trav, you'll love this one. So during the offseason, everybody, they were beating on my door, beating on my door, country boy, country boy, come on outside, come on outside. Everybody wanted the smoke. So I'm sitting up here like, you know, what's going on? Hey, man, the pros are out here training. and come and get some, come and get some. So, I mean, it was guys like Devin Bush's, Devin Bush senior, he was still in the National Football League. He went to Florida State. You know, just a lot of the past guys that made it because Florida State was putting athletes in the league like right and left. So I get out there and those guys are talking, oh, you're the country boy I hear about. Well, anyways, I go out there and embarrass those guys. I handle my business. And then right after that, the spring comes. If the spring comes, I have a great spring, and then I go back to West Virginia, serve some jail time, and end up getting thrown out of Florida State. But anyways, getting back to the story of the confidence factor of being able to have the confidence coming from Florida State and then from the AAU basketball court to Florida State, seeing guys drafted that I played with at Florida State, seeing guys drafted that I played AAU ball against, you're talking about confidence and not looking back. And then also the trials and tribulations of, you know, coming from the state of West Virginia. Dude, it was destined for me to really get out there and just grit my teeth and just go get it. Heck yeah, man. Heck yeah. That's such a good story. From one flip side to a Nike invite to realizing that, you know, this might not be the thing. And then on the other flip side, going down to Florida State and realizing like, oh, yeah, I got something over here. Right. That's a dope dynamic. I feel the same way because people, a lot of times people ask, when did you know you could go to the NFL? It's like, I kind of started knowing once I saw guys go and I was playing against them. It was the same way in college. I'm like, man, am I good enough to play in college? And then I'm playing against Thaddeus Gibson over at Euclid. And I'm like, I can compete with Thaddeus. And he was committed to Ohio State. So I feel like I'm right there. And then all of a sudden you're in college and you see guys that you're teammates with go and you're like, okay, I might get a shot at this thing. What was it like? You just mentioned going from Florida State, going back to West Virginia. Marshall, what was that like? It was hard for me, guys. And the reason why is because what I struggled with, you know, as far as my, you know, my upbringing, then getting to that high school, you know, fight, you know, getting sentenced to some jail time. And, you know, it's kind of like that, you know, throughout my whole life, I think a lot of the people around the state seen my talents and, you know, wanted me to be a Mountaineer. And, you know, I followed the Mountaineers. They, you know, competed against Notre Dame in the National Championship in the late 80s. So, you know, I've always followed the Mountaineers. to follow Marshall, you know, in the divisions that they were in and the players that they even put in their program. But I just always wanted to get out, Jason, and just being able to get out and then coming back home, it was kind of crazy to me. And like I said, being able to see those guys pull up in the Lexus and, you know, the Mercedes and seeing a lot of things that I didn't see growing up. So when I came back home, it was kind of depressing for me because I kind of failed myself. and I think that being able to get an opportunity to play football again I got with Marshall you know I had a great group of guys as far as my teammates you know just being able to uplift me in certain situations in certain moments we went undefeated my first year so I think that you know a lot of the stuff that you know I took from Florida State I took to Marshall man and like I say the rest is history you can look at the record books you can look at the score and more. So like I said, man, so I took it, I just took a lot, you know, from Florida state, but at the same time, like I told you what fueled me to go out there and try to make it to the top. I didn't, I didn't want to take, I didn't want to take that little bump in the road, you know, going back home to Marshall. I just took that as another opportunity to go reach my goal. Hell yeah, man. Hell yeah. Well, it worked out. 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I mean, you throw on that Randy Moss highlight tape over at Marshall, man. It's epic. I love that shit. And that was back in the AstroTurf days. Oh, my God. What was it like going – playing on AstroTurf every single home game or every single week? Well, the thing about it is I played on AstroTurf a lot in high school too. So it was kind of like I played in AstroTurf in high school. I played on AstroTurf in college. And then when I got drafted to the Minnesota Vikings, they were on AstroTurf. So it was kind of like you had to understand how to play on it. Because if you don't understand how to play on it, it could really, you know, as far as the cutting, you know, as far as the joints on your knees and then also the scrapes and cuts on your body. I mean, I don't really know my degrees as far as Burns' first, second, or third degree. But I've seen a man on game day to have his whole arm stripped from here all the way down to his wrist. It's like Velcro, man. And it was pure white. Oh, my gosh. Oh, flesh. Not flesh. I had to learn how to play on it. But at the same time, you know, just being able to make the transition to, you know, the grass or the field turf. I mean, I enjoyed every moment of it, though, because I played on the worst. One stadium that we played in high school, Lakewood High School. And that was only really the only chance I ever had to play on AstroTurf. But when you came in the league, you had all fields. It was AstroTurf. It was regular fields. And then it was baseball fields. Yeah, yeah. Like you were playing on the infields. You were playing on Astro. Like that's such a crazy dynamic. We complain about field turf now. And it's like, man, guys were playing on carpet and running on a mound. They were running to second base out there. I'm going to tell you one of my craziest moments. Of course, I don't think I've ever won infielding. I don't think I've ever won infielding. Really? But they used to have a wall in the visitor's locker room. Did you ever hear about that wall? I don't think I've heard about this. All the former players, and I don't even know how far it goes back. I know it's back in the 70s. I mean, you got from Walter Payton, you know, Refrigerator Perry. You got all the guys. Well, anyways, when they come into the visitor's locker room, we're about to, oh, we can sign this wall. And you can sign it, whatever you would want. You know, we're going to keep y'all's whatever. Randy Moss. You know, whatever it is. So Walter Payton being my favorite player growing up, I signed my name near his. I mean, I saw Jerry Rices. I seen all these players that are in the visiting locker room. You can sign this wall. You can say what you want and then put your autograph on it. Then I said, well, what did they do with the wall when they built the new stadium? I don't know, but that was one of the craziest moments going into the back. Oh, we got to find that wall. There's no way they let that get out of there. I can't believe this has got to be – This is in somebody's basement. And they're doing a good job keeping it secret. They couldn't have demolished it with all the autographs and all the history. It was just a brick wall that was kind of like holding up the stadium. I'd say over 100, 150 athletes on that wall. That's crazy. I can't believe they didn't incorporate it in the new stadium. It should be enshrined. I got to figure this out. Yeah, really. You mentioned playing with the Vikings. Right. You get draft. First of all, what was draft day like? We ask everybody who got drafted, like, what was that process like? My draft day was kind of crazy because of the expectations that I had that I was going to be a cowboy. Wow. Okay. I didn't know this. Now, I told you about my background, about my mom being in church and Christian. And my mom was, you know, really into church. She really wasn't into sports. You know how you guys take that visit to a team and then they host you or whatnot, you know. Yeah. Top 30. Yeah, Dallas was a little different. They hosted a lot of players. They didn't host you individually. So I come back home thinking that I'm going to be a Cowboy. So I come back telling everybody in my hometown, I tell my mom, and then my mom is like, okay, son, if you say you're going to be a Cowboy, then you're going to be a Cowboy. So I remember on draft day sitting there, you know, you got the ESPN camera there in the house that I was in. And I remember my mom sitting there with a Bible on her lap. And it was kind of crazy because I was like, OK, mom, you know, you hear I know you're over there praying. But it's kind of weird that my mom's here in this sport type of moment. And so when I tell her I'm going to be drafted and they know the eighth overall pick, Dallas Cowboys select Greg Ellis. And that was my, you know, supposed to be selection. And so, like I said, I seen my mom's, you know, energy and facial expression. And then I was feeling a certain type of way. So I just think that, you know, I know there's more to this and we don't have time for it. But you guys, you two, the Kels brothers, you guys don't understand as far as there's been a lot of blood as far as the family blood that goes through the National Football League. But I think it's being successful as a pair of brothers, man, I think that's really what I tip my hat and committed you guys for, because that's really hard to do. You know, you got one brother over here having success. You got another brother. You guys are really competing against each other. But at the same time, you still have the love. So anyways, my brother played for the Minnesota Vikings before I was drafted. He went to Ohio State. He backed up Corey Stringer and Orlando Pace. And so my brother called me first. She's like, hey, man, Coach Green wants to talk to you. That's like, ah, man, I'm not really into it. Oh, Randy, we're going to draft you. Okay, whatever. So because like I said, man, I was already depleted from, you know, not getting, you know, the eighth overall pick. So when it came to the Vikings pick, they picked me up. And then all of a sudden, you know, I get the call and I'm like, you know, thanks, coach. You won't regret this. All I want to do is just play football, man. It's been a bumpy 24-hour road for me. I was in the emotional wreck. I was like, Coach, I just want to play football. That's all I want to do. So I go back that night, get ready to get on my plane, and I ended up breaking my ankle. So if you ever look at my rookie trading card, you'll look at me and Dennis Green on a practice field, and I have an air cast on my foot because on draft night, I had to get my mind away from not getting drafted. I went and played basketball and broke my ankle. Broke the ankle? Yeah, broke my ankle. What? So I hobbled through an airport, went through Chicago, O'Hare hobbled. They seen me jumping. They went and got a wheelchair for me, took me to my gate. And then all of a sudden, I went to Minnesota. They got me the gate, brought me to the coaches. And the first thing they done to me was took me straight to the doctors and put the boot on me. What did they say? They came saying that. They knew my history. They knew my background. So, I mean, it's like, okay, things happen. So, like I said, man, it was a crazy moment. But like I said, just being able to get drafted, my brother called me. And it was like the Minnesota Vikings want to. So being up there in Minnesota for my first couple years, man, I had my brother with me. Man, that's so cool, man. You got your revenge on the Cowboys. Talk about Thanksgiving. What was that game like? Did you know coming into it you were going to go off for that much? No, I really didn't. I think that you know how you sit at home as a kid. and you see all the athletes like score a touchdown and all of a sudden the camera goes right to that athlete. And I know both of you guys have done it because I've seen it. Hi, Mom. You know how you use the camera, right? Yes. Every time you know it. So my biggest thing was being on that stage, Thanksgiving Day, I just wanted to say hi, Mom. That's all I wanted to do. So that game, we're in the cold tub because we just played on Sunday. Y'all guys know how important a cold tub is. So I didn't want to get in a cold tub, but the veterans forced me in there, and I went up and having those three catches, that iconic game. But I think for me, just going up there, just being able to ignore the noise, seeing familiar faces, because I remember when I took that trip before the draft, I seen some faces as far as the recruiting and the scouts and things like that. So me going out there, just seeing some familiar faces, I had to be able to ignore that. but at the same time put my focus on going out here and having a great game. But then out of all the things that I'll say this, with that game, with my mind being everywhere, you know, my wide receiver coach, you know, God rest his soul, Hubbard Alexander and Chris Carter, Jake Reed, our wide receiver core three beat. We all stayed together that game. And it was my rookie year. I mean, I know my coming out party was the green Bay Monday night, but that game against Dallas guys, it was kind of like, It was so emotional. And it was kind of – we've all been in a zone before, you know, where you think like every block I'm going to get and there's no ball that I'm going to drop. You know what I'm saying? Yes, for sure. So that game right there, I know it was just three balls thrown my way, but I was like, dude, I was in a zone that day and I was going to not let anything stop me. Three balls for 163 yards and three touchdowns. That's a heck of a day. Hang my hat on that one. One of the producers is a Cowboy fan. Grew up in Texas. he has us in there. We got to ask. And we know you're involved to Boulder. Do you still have that same game if Deion's playing? Probably. Probably. Because the thing about it, quick crazy story, I got to tell you this, guys. And the guy, the Cowboy fan, you're going to be sick at this story. Real quick. When I get to Dallas, I'm already sitting up here wondering about what is my day going to be like, okay? So I come down to the lobby and one of the security guys tells me, he said, hey, Randy, you're not going to come to dinner tonight. We're going to there's Mr. Jones sent the limousine to get you and the limousine is going to take you over to primetime's house. And I'm like, I've never met Deion Sanders. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm crazy. So I go to Deion Sanders house. He tells me, you know, the story of a man and love to play with you. Jerry Jones wants you, wants me to talk to you. So, guys, there was no way that I was going leaving Dallas that, you know, in my mind, I was believing that I was going to be a Dallas Cowboy. So that is what a pump fake, man. Right. Yeah. For the pump fake. So back to what you were saying, it wasn't it had nothing to do with if Dion was playing or not. One thing that I'll tell you that Chris Carter was always up for the big games that we play the big guys like we had. Aeneas Williams, Hall of Fame brother out of Arizona Cardinals. Yep. Played him. We played James Hastie and Dale Carter, cornerbacks out of Kansas City. At the time, they were both pro bowlers. So being a veteran player, you know, he always used to tell me about, hey, man, you got to be worried about this one. You got to worry about this one. I remember talking about Deion, and he was like, I don't know if he's going to play, but if he does, you got to watch out for this. You got to watch out for that. So I was just up to the moment of my rookie year. No one was Thanksgiving. Everybody talking about me and Deion Sanders. And I was like, man, I can't not worry about Deion. That's like how focused I really was, guys. I really was really focused that game. Was there a DB throughout your entire career that you kind of like give the tip of the cap to that you just he always made your job just that that much harder? Yeah. And I'm not ashamed to say his name. Darrell Revis was a gnat. Yeah. Yeah, the railroad. He was just a gnat. I mean, and the thing about it, what was you going to ask me, Jason? What made him good? Yeah, because it wasn't like he was like this crazy, like, I mean, he was, but what made him so good at corner? I mean without stating the obvious you know guys study you know they study technique they study you know formation things like that But by him being not as fast as you know a Champ Bailey or Deion Sanders the man was athletic beyond, you know. When I say athletic, if you study a guy like Darrell Revis, go back to his highlights back when he played basketball in the state of Pennsylvania. Okay? Okay. That man did some homework. Yeah. Okay. So when I go back to do my study, I already went back to his high school looking at his skill set because I remember the release. I did a release his rookie year. And then the second year I came back, I tried to do the same release. And I'm like, oh, my God, he got it. So it was kind of more like he did his homework on me. Now it's time for me to do mine, which I thought I did. But I had to really go into my study mode with a guy like him because he was so good. And I just think that the way he knew how you stepped, how he knew body language, along with having a great defensive coordinator and a guy like Rex Ryan, and then later on going to Bill Belichick's defense. So like I said, Darrell Rivas was a nat. He studied. But I think one of the things that he really did get credit for was how good of an athlete he was, just not as a cornerback, but the man with a hell of a guard too. Heck yeah. When I got to go up against him, he was so stout and strong. He had great patience. He never opened his hip. It was crazy. Do you remember the time when they took you out of the three-point stance and they let you get out here and line up at that wide receiver? Oh, yeah. Because the crazy thing about it was, Trav, it's kind of like we knew, you know, as football fans, we're like, hey, this man right here can play some football. So then all of a sudden, now they detach you from the tackle and let you get out there in the two-point stance, and then you really get to see how shifty you were. And how I went, Jason. Yes, that was a perfect impersonation right there. Don't look at the shoulders. You're going to get lost. You're going to get lost in the shoulders. Being able to go against certain guys like, you know, a Charles Woodson, a Champ Bailey, a Darrell Revis, a lot of that stuff was important because if they do their study and learn how to be patient at the line, you'll definitely have success against most wide receivers in today's game man pass. I love it. I got to, we usually ask, what is your welcome to the NFL moment? But you made the Pro Bowl your rookie year and we're second team all pro. It doesn't sound like you had a welcome to the NFL moment. That was like, I mean, I guess it was the Cowboys game. I guess it was the Green Bay or Cowboys game. Like there were positives. It wasn't my welcome was like facing off against Ray Lewis for the first time. I'm like, man, I can't believe I'm trying to block Ray Lewis. Do you have any moments like that? I think what was crazy for me, and it was Monday night. It was Monday night in Lambeau. And I remember, I don't remember the result of the play, but I remember walking back to the huddle and I walked right past Reggie White. And just, just as, you know, Just could feel the aura. It's the minister of defense right there. I hope that guy doesn't get his hands on me. God damn. No, because I mean, there's already a clip of him throwing Chris Carter out the way he's trying to chip the edge, but I think, you know, so imagine that throw. But I think that that was a moment for me. I think just not looking at the actually the stats and the yards, I just think being able to look and seeing that I'm on the same football field as Reggie White. And then there was another clip of me talking about my coaches telling me, hey, man, sit down, man, come and rest your legs. I was like, no, that's Brett Farm. That's Brett Farm. We got to keep going. You know, so it's just crazy moments like that. I just remember Brett Favre being on the field, Barry Sanders being on the field, and then walking past Reggie White's at the rookie. So it's kind of like the guys you grew up watching, and now you're on the field playing against them or with them. That's probably my surreal moments. Oh, yeah. Heck yeah. I had one of those surreal moments when we played the Patriots for the first time. I saw Tom Brady in person, man, live in action in a super suit wearing the 12, man. How was it when you went to the Patriots? Was it a night and day difference from anywhere you had ever been? Or what was it like meeting Tom for the first time? Dude, we can have fun on y'all's podcast all day, but check this out. So y'all know Saturday night before the game. We're in a hotel. We're the visitors, right? So you know what? We're on two floors, and you got the security on both floors of all this crazy stuff. So we're the Raiders. we play on Sunday I fly back to Minnesota so one of my former teammates is at the hotel getting ready for the Monday night well guys I drive down to their hotel sneak in the hotel and go up the exit and get up on their floor Jason you're looking at me like what is this Randy there are probably what four or five hours before they go to the stadium on Monday night. I sneak in their hotel, meet Brady for the first time, Trav. Meet him for the first time, and I said, look, dude, I'm going to cut straight to it. I said, dude, I want to play with you. Whatever you can do to get me up here, do it. So the next thing, you know, I gave him, I dafted him up, gave him some love, walked out. That night, I watched the game. Brady's first time ever in his career. He throws five touchdowns against the Minnesota Vikings. So I'm sitting up here thinking, Oh, I might have rubbed off on Brady a little bit. Oh, no. So being given the opportunity to get traded from Oakland to the Patriots, the number one thing that I wanted to do, Jason Travis, offensive players, I wanted to know everything that Brady knew as far as Jason, the checks. You know, when I'm hot, when it's a site, when you're changing the protections, giving me everything that Brady knew I wanted to know because if it had something to do with me, I wanted to hit the ground running. Okay. Sure. Yeah. And so, and I had expectations and end up getting a hamstring injury that, uh, that forced me out of preseason. And so actually my first actual game going out here, really doing it was week one against the jets. And so, like I said, I was coming off a hamstring injury, but anyways, the rest is history about the 23 touchdowns and a record-breaking season. But like I said, I just wanted to know everything that Brady actually or possibly knew that could help my game out. Not enough guys play this game through the eyes of the quarterback, man. It's crazy how much you can benefit off of understanding the whole grand scheme of things. And I think even at a young age, man, playing quarterback, I felt like helped me out so much more because I understood the the progressions. I understood, you know, where that, that, that position's eyes were before every single snap, man, that's awesome to hear brother that, that, because it really did seem like you guys were in sync, especially if somebody was, was playing too low or a safety came down or you already know it was a, it was up top all, all, all season that year. I got to ask you while we're on this quarterback receiver dynamic, quarterback receiver drama is like a tale as old as time. I remember playing freshman football. Trav hears me bring this up all the time. I'm wide open. I'm getting mad. I'm like, will you throw me the ball? Like, what is happening here? Why are you not so – I got to – when you're seeing quarterback-receiver drama, are you always on the receiver side of things? Like, whose fault is it usually in your mind? I think it's a 50-50. And the reason why I say it's a 50-50 is because you take a guy like – I'm going to give you just a prime example of what we're looking at right now. You take a guy like Aaron Rodgers, okay? Yeah. And it's like Aaron Rodgers has some bathroes where he looks, you know, where he might throw the ball to bathrobe. And then, like, it's nothing. No body, no body language, no emotion, okay? Then all of a sudden, the very next play or a couple plays, the receiver drops the ball. Now Aaron is all like. Yeah, yeah, he's pissed. Yeah, he's pissed. So, like I say, you know, not singling Aaron out because, I mean, He's had a phenomenal career and doing some great things. But when you look at, you know, to answer your question, Jason, I think it's just a 50-50 split because we have our times, Trav, where we're not in the right place or, you know, we might have went too far that the quarterback wasn't expecting us to be. But at the same time, they could get rushed and try to get the ball out of their hands. But to that point, in the history of the game, Trav, you and Pat, as far as the anticipation of me knowing where you're going to be before you even turn your head or get out of your break, that should be studied. Seriously. And I really mean that. And I'm not saying it just because you're sitting here on this podcast because you talk about the art and the science of sports. But at the same time that quarterbacks are really made when you want to say, hey, I want to see my wide receiver create separation and get open. No, Patrick knows what the route is, where you're going to stop, your body language, and like I say, that's one of the most beautiful things to see when it comes to quarterback-receiver combination is that of what you guys created, man. I tip my hat to that. Man, that means the most comfortable for you, big guy. And I'll tell you what, man, sometimes he surprises the shit out of me. I don't know because I'll turn my head around and maybe break off my route different or maybe even just run a completely different route than what's called. Right, right. And Pat is just right on cue, right on the money every single time, man. He just knows. That's what happens when you golf together and you play drinking games together, man. You just sit down and have a beer with a guy. You start to get in his head. Well, let me ask you, just, you know, football talk. You know, like I told you, we could do this all day. All day, baby. Just our position, when it comes to the chemistry that you guys, between you and Patrick, that you guys created, how did y'all create that chemistry, bro? I mean, like, I know that you're going to say practice. I know, no, it's not just practice. Like, what type of belief did, like, y'all's conversation, like, how did y'all make that? Talk to me, man. Tell me. You already know. I think it's, you already know. It's over, it's all the reps. It's all the reps. But at the same time, I think there is just a natural understanding of backyard football. Like, like paddle paddle tell you from the from the get go. I used to come into I came into this thing with Alex Smith. He's he's more seven step. That ball is coming out. You know what I mean? And you got to be there. Pat's kind of like, yeah, I'm around my seven step. But I could I could, you know, airtime on it, do something with my feet. My seven step might not be I might stretch my drop this time. so his timing is is more just feel out the game and I kind of have that similar timing as well and I remember I went up to Pat one time and was like all right man if they go this coverage I'm gonna run it like this I'm gonna run it like that hey what do you think if I give him a nod here and take an extra like tick to get out of my break he was just like no man just get open just get open I'll throw it when you get open that's crazy the guy just he's trusting me to get open he said I don't care how you run this route you just get open and that ball is gonna be there on time and it really shows that you know not trying to throw it and Jason I'm not gonna leave you out my brother when I look at your game I looked at more of your game toward the end of your career and the reason why is because both of you guys toward the end of your or at the end of your careers you were playing at a high level so they both basically put the Kelsey brothers together and I would have to ask Jason when we talk about Jalen when we talk about chemistry throughout your whole career who is that player and it probably is going to have to be a guard that you would say hey dude I would just have to give him this look and he already know we're going to maul whoever's in front of who is that player in your career that you just it's not even work it's a look who is that player that's tough I had so many of them I would say the guy that I knew like we didn't even need to communicate we were just always on the same page is probably Brandon Brooks like Brandon Brooks who he he only he won a Super Bowl with us but and he had a shorter career, he was incredible. He was big, strong, and he had a good feel for the game. He was an athlete playing offensive line. Oh, wow. The best lineman I played with, like Howard Mudd used to teach the game, like what's pass blocking? And he'd be like, how do you play basketball? Just the quarterback's the hoop. Just keep him in front of you. I'm like, coach, I need some more technique. I need you to give me something more than that. Guys that conceptualize the game like that were the most fun to play with when you play with guys that were too robotic and too much like an offensive lineman, it was harder to adjust to the in-game stuff happening, if you know what I mean. Like, I didn't even need to say something to Brandon. We just both knew with this guy in this position, the linebacker right there, that we were going to hit the block this way. Right. Like, why else wouldn't we hit it that way? But another guy you might have to communicate with throughout the week, like, hey, we really need to take this one more vertical. Hey, you take more of them. I'm going to push them on top of you because this backer is going to fall off if he's in a stacked position on this play. But Brandon knew it. Isaac Sayamalu was another guy that knew that. The best field player I ever played with was Jason Peters. Okay. JP. Okay. JP, we have an alert call. I'm not going to say it because they still use it, but he would alert me that there was edge pressure. Okay. And I'd be looking out there. There's no safety cap. I'm like, man, how does this dude know that this pressure is coming? I'm like, whatever. I'm going out there. Sure enough, they bring the nickel, right? There's certain guys that just understand spacing and alignment. Right. And those guys were so valuable on game day because you didn't need the coaching on the field. They just could go out there and play. And those are the guys that I always yield with the best, for sure. The Lane Johnson, I got to throw him up there too. That was like my second brother for a long time in Philadelphia. Like, he got drafted two years after me. We did our whole career together, still doing this thing out there. Right. I just didn't do a lot of communicating with Lane. Lane was more all the way out there on the edge. It was more like you said, guards. Well, I've got to ask you guys. I know this is y'all's interview, but, you know, I've asked it. I know Trav. I know everybody's speculating. Jason, you first. I know what I missed when I told the people that, you know, I was going to hang it up, and I remember crying. And my wife, I remember hearing the car door slam, and my daughter and my wife came in and I had to, you know, wipe my face and do all that crazy stuff because I didn't even want to see. I didn't want it. I did not want my wife to see like, baby, what's wrong with you? Nothing. Yeah. So I think to my point, to my question, you know, Jason, when it was time for you to call it quits, what's the number one thing in your mind you knew you were going to miss about the game? I knew I was going to miss competing and playing and game day. What I didn't know I was going to miss was the locker room. And everybody tells you you're going to miss it. Oh, man. But it's hard until you remove from it. Yeah. That you really understand that there ain't anything else that replicates this. Like guys from all over the country, you're coming together for a specific task. Yeah. it's just it that ends up being for sure what i miss the most is just being in the locker room with the guys and i'll purposely go back still to try and get that but yeah i think that's the and then i also miss the regimentedness of it right does that make sense like i yeah i i mean i'm happy i don't have it but i also there was a a self like there was a productivity in my own head that i knew every day i'm gonna go in i'm gonna do this and i'm gonna do this and i'm gonna lift and I'm going to watch tape and then I'm going to go out and dominate on game day and I'm going to do it with my boys. Right. That's the way I would answer it. No, that was mine because I'd say there's all types of things that you could actually say, but I think mine was the locker room itself, senior brothers, you know, men from different walks of life that you're coming together for one call. So like I said, for me, Trav, I, you know, the reason why I asked that because I, like I said, I know the time is coming. I don't know when, but I know, you know, the time is coming. I don't know if this was the last or if it wasn't, but if there is, if this was the last, what do you think that you'll miss most about the game? Man, I think it's just those moments in the big games, man. The feeling of having to rise to the occasion, be there for 70,000 that are all counting on you out there outside of just the guys that you go to war with, you guys go to battle with, man. Those moments of of rising to the occasion in the heat of the battle, you know, in the playoffs and all the big games out there, man. That's a feeling that I know I'll never get again. And I think that's something that, you know, those are the things that you cherish the most. And especially, you know, if you're fortunate enough to be in the playoffs and make runs at it, man, the satisfaction that you get and the successful feeling you get of all the hard work that you put in, it's finally paying off. And, and, uh, I think that'll, that'll be one of the things I miss the most, man, for sure. Well, look, I know we don't, I don't know how much time we got, but mine, you know, from a football standpoint, when we talk about a moment, you know, Jason, you talked about the, you know, the competing part. I had a 14 year career and, you know, I've had a lot of moments, but I think really the 23 touchdowns is, I think the moment, I think the moment for me, because being a kid, Trav, it's more like seeing Jerry Rice. I mean, Herman Moore was a big, tall receiver that Barry Sanders had in Detroit. Seeing guys like that that I grew up and then coming into, that's why I was just telling you guys of what it felt to me just seeing Myles Garrett break that single-season sack record. Because like I said, it's not an individual thing, but when you have an opportunity to go break a record as an individual, that was my you know moment you know surreal moment for me of all the hard work that I put in Jason yeah out of your whole career there's one defining moment for you not yeah not the egos not the media for you as a ball player what's your defining moment throughout your professional career that you put you that you can hang your hat on we had a lot of successful years where running backs had a lot of yards you kind of take that a little bit like I'm I had something to do with that right like you bring up the touchdown record that you hold or that you broke like there are the great it is an individual record but it is kind of a team record too right no doubt are other people and that's the greatest thing about this game right but i would say honestly for me i had an awful season in 2016 played like trash right like almost got cut from philadelphia a lot people don't even remember it philadelphians do probably but the next year i put a lot of work in the offseason. I started getting better with my technique. And it was like everything clicked so much better that year. I made my first all pro. That season following me having just an awful year really catapulted me into what ended up being my career, if that makes sense. Yeah. This was really the defining moment was the response I had to almost getting cut, almost like everybody thinking I'm on my way out of the league. Fuck that. I'm going to go in here. I'm working my ass off. Right. I studied my technique, got better with my leverage. And I came back and it was the best year of my career. And we happened to win a shoot ball on top of it. Okay. 2017, I was on cloud now. So I didn't have, I didn't break a touchdown record, but I broke the Jason Kelsey record for office line. That's kind of, that's it for me. Yeah. Okay. For me? Oh, man. I'd say the coolest moment was being on the mountaintop with Jason, man, playing in the Super Bowl against the Eagles the first time and being at the Super Bowl with Jason, having our family kind of get put on a pedestal. Our mom was the NFL mom. She was on every TV screen left and right because her two boys were playing each other in the Super Bowl. man that was uh when i look back on some of my favorite memories man being on the field uh both being captains there for the coin toss looking at each other from across the uh the field man it's just uh it's a memory i'll never fucking forget and that was definitely the pinnacle man the guy that i started doing this thing with when i was five years old in the backyard just throwing the ball around i don't know if i've ever asked you this the first touchdown you scored against the field of eagles i know you remember it travis yeah was that like you taking out an entire frustration of being a younger brother in one moment. Randy, we got to pull up the highlight. This dude caught a shovel pass at like the 20. Okay. Went all the way down and jumped. Like he mossed into the end zone from the five. Jumped into the end zone. I had never seen this. Like 15 feet. Randy, you know when you get the ball on a fast break and you just see the lane. Yeah. And you're just like, I'm going up. I'm taking up this. It was like Jordan, man. Oh, gosh. Yeah, no, 100%. Yeah, that was for getting my ass beat all those years when I was younger. I finally had a chance to make it even. Yeah, he's officially way more athletic than I. It's no question. Thank you to our sponsor, Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. That's smart. And not checking if the chair's sturdy before you lean back, Travis. It's uncalled for. It was honestly a mistake. Like these things, they aren't easy to replace, the antiques. I'm sure. Check Allstate first for a quote that can save you hundreds. 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Join the club today in person, online, or on the free Planet Fitness app. All right, we got to ask you this. You brought up Phillip a little bit earlier, Randy. Could you still moss somebody right now? I joked with our ESPN Countdown crew, Rick, Alex, Teddy, and Granny, Shafty every week. And, you know, they sit up here and say, hey, man, you look like you can still play. I really believe the way that they changed the rules of the game, that I could really still go out there and give a team close to double-digit touchdowns. I really still believe. Come on, baby! Title! Let's man them. I can still get up on the rim. I can still dunk a basketball, okay? Okay, okay. And so me just being able to go up and just use my hand-eye coordination and body control, and I think that's one of the biggest things because I sit up and talk about you got mossed every week and I talk about the DB not getting his hands around and talk about the hand-eye coordination that the wide receiver needs. I think that's very important, you know, as you get older, no matter, you know, how old you get. Like Mike Evans is still, you know, still out here making plays. And you think about it. Mike Evans was not always the fastest wide receiver, but as far as his athletic ability and his hand-eye coordination, just put it in his vicinity. So to answer your question, I still think I can still go out here and maybe get close to 10, 11 touchdowns a season. Would you be open to it? If a team called, is Randy answering the phone? Where I'm at right now as far as my happily married, my kids are thriving and doing their things. I think for me, it would have to be the right call, the right team. Because the only thing I'm really missing right now is a Super Bowl ring. So if the right call and the right opportunity came and the team gave me an opportunity to come out there and just be a red zone threat, I could put that 84 back on once more time. Let's go! Are you kidding me, man? You're getting me hyped just thinking about doing this, man. This shit's epic, man. Phillip Rivers got everybody thinking. Just one more. Just one more, baby. Just one more. Phillip Rivers had everybody around here. He had people like Cam Newton cutting up on his podcast. He had everybody around that played the game of football really thinking they could put some WD-40 on them joints Just still come out here and make something happen. I love it, man. Are there any, like, quarterbacks right now that you're like, man, I would go crazy playing with that guy? Quarterback-wise, there's a lot of quarterbacks that I like. And the reason why, Travis, just because the game has changed. Oh, yeah. You know, so much of God has just been in the pocket. But, you know, Pat is phenomenal. and not just being, just going back there, just slinging the ball. One of the things that you said about your quarterback, and I'm not just saying that because we're sitting on this podcast, I just think that a quarterback being able to buy time for his pass catcher is very important. You know, you have guys coming through here like, Jason, I remember you telling the stories about you going against Aaron Donald. You know, all of them, all, I mean, guys are so bigger, faster, stronger now in this, in this day and age in this game. And, you know, having a quarterback to be able to give you a little bit more time to work your craft is what I look at right now. And I think that if you're just talking about three quarterback that comes to mind, I love Joe Burrow's game. I love Patrick Mahomes game. And then, of course, you know, I think it'd be, you know, a guy like Josh Allen. I love his game. Yeah. You can't beat it. But like I say, I just think just more of the quarterbacks being able to buy some time because, like I say, you know, you're getting double, you're getting triple. Well, let me work through this double and this triple coverage. And like I say, Trav, you've done it plenty of times. So to answer your question, I think those three guys really stand off the charts right now. That'd be a good one right there. Is it true you never stretched on game day? The thing about stretching on game day was this. And hopefully you guys can definitely attest to this. It's kind of more like getting down and touching your ankles or, you know, you know, loosen your hamstrings up. That's not the stretch that I meant. Meaning that if I see you across the room from me, Trav, and you're sitting over there bumping in your headphones, well, I'm a bump with you. Then all of a sudden we can start jumping around before we know we're both sweat. So basically that's what I meant that I don't stretch on game day. I rely on my brothers to help me stretch. So it's just more of the jumping around that we do all the, you know, I don't want to really, well, I mean, some guys have a little false enthusiasm in there, but like I say, it's just more of the getting around your brothers and, you know, us, you know, bringing the energy out of one another. Bringing the energy, baby. That's my strategy. You got to do it together too, man. You can't just let one guy try and be it, man. Everybody's got to bring it. We got one more for you though, big dog. And then we'll let you get out of here. As someone who's perfected the lateral, rule. I've taken notes from the legends of this game. You have one of the most iconic football plays of all time. Can you walk us through that whole play? Was that like a designed situation? No, it was really, we actually were playing the Broncos at home. And I remember, of course, the last play. And I think that at the time, my quarterback, Dante, Dante always had a strong arm. But I think in that case, I don't think that Dante could have got it to the end zone from where we were. So he rode out to the right. And I remember that it was more like just a Hail Mary. Yeah. And so he throws the ball and I get up and catch it. And the one thing about it, you know, being a pass catcher, Travis, like we have to decide kind of like at the last minute, do we want to hands it or do we want to body it? so it was more like in the situation the ball was hanging in the air a little too long and I said what do I do here so basically I bodied the ball I got up I bodied it so when I came down out the side of my peripheral I see a purple jersey so and now we're on the court and now I see that's the name up you know you know the name up so like I said man anytime I see that play is kind of like 11 guys, you know, playing heads of football. Cause like Jason, you said, it's not the moment. It's everybody doing their job. So yes, I know that I got the, you know, recognition from throwing it on my head, but Jason, where would I be if you guys, my offensive line at the time, would not have held it up for Dante, the offensive line, the running backs protection. Like I say, a lot of the things that we accomplish, you know, on the football field has to do with 10 other guys. That's why I've never ever singled myself out as an individual, no matter what the play looks like. I know that 10 other guys have to do their job for me to accomplish mine. Iconic, dog. There's been a lot of 10 other guys accomplishing jobs in the NFL. Nobody has ever laddered a ball like that, bro. And nobody ever played the game like Randy Moss, baby. Randy, thank you so much for joining us, dog. I do not want to get crazy on the ending of this show, But to let you guys know what being on this show really means to me, you already know what I was battling, you know, throughout, you know, my cancer and just coming up on my one year anniversary. I told you guys about my brother and what, you know, my brother went to Ohio State. My brother ended up dying. I went to the Hall of Fame in 2018. All right. My brother passed away in 2019. And, you know, things wasn't, you know, great as a relationship. When I tell you guys, when I look at you guys and see the things you guys love in your relationship, when I say that I get jealous about it, it's not a jealousy jealousy. It's more on that I wish I would have had that type of relationship with my brother. And the reason why I'm telling you this, because I remember after y'all's gay, Trav, you came up and kissed your big brother on a cheek. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. I remember it. If there's anybody in all of sports history, football, basketball, anything that really felt that, brotherly love, hey, you guys, where is it at? Y'all give me some, man. No, man. I love you, dog. You already know it. Welcome to y'all, bro. Hey, congratulations on your success, man. This podcast and your career, man. Thanks for having me on, guys. Much love to you. God damn, man. What a just a special dude, man. The best. The absolute best. He's so fucking down to earth. He's so just himself, man. And he's always just being the most giving person. You know what I mean? He's the most shirt off your back kind of guy, man. And we got to catch a fish with the big guy. I just started getting into the old wildlife, man. Fishing is one of those things. Bass fishing specifically, I haven't really done. I've done a bunch of fly fishing, as you know, Trev. Bass fishing is one thing that I've never done. Everybody raves about it. Even fly fishermen, they'll talk about taking poppers down and hitting the bass, especially like in June, July, once they start coming up, water gets warm. You do some topwater fishing, and they really attack it. Apparently, it's a lot of fun. So we love, I mean, I've jumped at the chance to catch some fish with Randy Moss. Do you think Randy's ever mossed a fish? Straight cash, homie. Come on now. I don't even got to stretch on game day. All right. Well, appreciate Randy Moss for jumping in. Now we got to get to some no dumb questions for you 92 percenters. And right now, before we get out of here, it's time for a special edition of no dumb questions brought to you by Hills Pet Nutrition. We received a 92 percenter submission asking us how we would field a football team with dog breeds. And we partnered with Hills to make our picks from Ryan Lutch. 94, 94. Okay, anyways. Episode two of asking no dumb questions from Northeast Ohio. Hey, shout out to Northeast Ohio. Which dog breed best describes you guys? One for on-field and one for off-field. And the follow-up with all of these, players as dogs or cats because, well, players as dogs. Players as dogs, players as breeds of dogs. All right. Where are we starting with this? Since Seals knows there's no such thing as dumb question, especially about pets, let's start with the first question. What is your on-field dog breed? Are we repeating this or are you just asking? I'm asking you. This is going to go in. I'm going to walk us through this one. What dog breed is me on the field and what dog is. Who is Jason Kelsey on the field as a dog? Off field. I feel like I'm a bloodhound. Just like that bloodhound on the porch with his lips sagging over the sides of his teeth, like just not moving unless he smells something and then he's getting after it and it's time to work. No chance. I don't. You're so active. That's what I'm saying. You're such a liar. No, you have way too much energy. You are just all over Italy. There's no way. Look at what you're wearing. That's when I smell. That's when I smell something. I'm in. When I get a scent, I'm active. You're getting a lot of sense. You are getting a lot of sense. I got a good sense of smell. Okay, I'll buy it. All right. You've kind of talked me like half into it. It's fine. Still, you are not. You present so much lazier than you actually are. You are so fucking busy. You can ask Kylie. Kylie! am i lazy am i lazy am i lazy am i lazy see she said no she said no no she said no you're a hard-working man you are not sitting on the porch you are not you're not sitting on the porch waiting for a set no you're a fucking go-getter you're out there hunting you're out there hunting all right who's who's travis kelsey Travis Kelsey off the field. I mean, it's got to be like a golden retriever, right? It's just like all-American, freaking great personality. Everybody loves him. Yeah. Like to be active. They'll play fetch. They'll play some fetch. You throw a ball, Travis is going to go get it. Harry as fuck. Yeah, I can see that. Shedding, yeah. On the field, which one are we going first? Travis? Yeah, on the field, Travis. Who is he? I don't see. God damn it. Does it change? I wish I knew dog breeds, man. It definitely changes. I'm not as nice on the field. I feel like I'm still pretty friendly, but I'm a competitive. Good ball skills. You're still kind of like, yeah, you're an active one. So are we in the retrievers category still? I don't know, or like a short-haired pointer? I mean, you kind of threw out the Irish wolfhound out there. And at first I said no because I didn't think they had good hips because I got really good hips. Dude, they can run. They can run. They got some viciousness to them. They're not big ball skills. are really not vicious at all unless it's your crown dog okay well that's the only time i've only seen them out there playing no they're not interested in chasing balls you gotta love that as a tight end you have to love you gotta love the chasing the balls you gotta be willing to do the dirty work what about like a german shepherd i mean german shepherds could get huge they're still like large but they're not that big yeah don't get me wrong i'm not fucking i'm not like the gronks and the jimmy grahams of the world you know what i mean like those guys are like three inches taller than me. You're 6'4 and 7'8. Yeah. I feel like you're a great Pyrenees on the field. Oh. They're like herd protection dogs. Right? So I'll put them out with the flock in case any wolves get nearby. So get physical. I'll give you great Pyrenees. I like great Pyrenees. And I'm a team guy. And they run in packs. That's right. Yeah. I'm in. Alright, I'll take a great Pyrenees. Great Pyrenees. Because they also like from a distance can kind of give you a lab look. They're just much bigger. I like that. Yes. Yes. They're friendly as shit too. Everybody's got them. No, they can't be. I think they can be. They can be. They can be, but they're also like, they were bred to protect. We're the Pyrenees Mountains. Now we're way sidetracked. Are there Pyrenees Mountains? That's why they're the Pyrenees. Oh, didn't know that. Southwest Europe. Between France and Spain. There you go. Yeah. All right. Who's Jason on the field? Jason on the field? What dog is Jason on the field? Dude, he's a special breed of O-Line. So it's like, you got to have. I don't know what dog. See, I don't know dog breeds like this. I need help. I'll do a Mastiff. I like a Mastiff. I feel like a Commodore. Protector. It's got to be another herding dog. Trying to look at the herding. I'm looking at the herding group here. Ooh, what about a Belgian Malinois? Not bad. The herding? Not that one. Why do we want a herding? Well, like you're an offensive lineman. You're kind of like, you're in the protection realm. Yeah. I buy that. But there's like herding dogs. You can't be as athletic as the Great Pyrenees. Ooh, have you ever heard of a, oh my gosh, it looks like a fucking, it looks like a lion. It might be called something a lion. You're talking about a chow chow? No, it's like an African. It looks like a lion. I think it's called something African. Maybe it was Alaskan. Something with an A. I'm thinking like something that isn't like overly like athletic, just like is going to stand its ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to protect the house. You know what I mean? Tibetan Mastiff. Tibetan Mastiff. You ever seen them suckers? Yeah. That's a big boy. Yeah, I can see it. Oh, man. That's a Jason dog. Look at that guy. Trying to figure out the hairy one. Look at that guy. That's a Jason. Ancient guard dog. Hell yeah. That's that fucking guy right there. That's Jason Kelsey. Pulling around the edge. That's Jason Kelsey. Tibetan Mastiff. Let's go. I knew there was some sort of Mastiff. I knew I was on the right track. All right. Where are we at? We can click. What's the rest of a football team? What are we looking for in a quarterback? Quarterback? You want a good leader. See, that's that German Shepherd. Yeah. I was about to say German Shepherd. I would say Border Collie, but I don't know if it has the size. I kind of want Border Collie on defense. Border Collie would be a good safety. I think Border Collie is safety or defensive back. You see him go after the freaking Grinsbees. They're very good in space. Because I was also thinking Jack Russell on defense, too. Jack Russell? Yeah. No, they're scrappy. No, they're scrappy little guys. Put him at- Where else are they going? What do you mean? Where else would you put him? Oh, I'm not putting him on offense. No, on defense. Oh, I think if you've got a defensive back or in your nickel? I would say maybe a nickel. Maybe a nickel. Jack Russell's more of an exercise to play outside. Jack Russell Terrier. It's like a little small dog. The dog from the mask. I think they were bred to hunt mice, maybe? They will wreck some mice. I don't know. I love those dogs. Those dogs, they don't need to be on the football field. Oh, wow. No, I'm telling you, they play bigger than their size. Who are they guarding? Who's our wide receivers? Okay, so if we're going German Shepherd quarterback, what are you putting out there wide out? Greyhounds? Yeah. I want to deal with Greyhounds. that they don't have great ball skills? Dobermans. I was going to say Dobermans are DNs, right? They got that big chest on them too. It could be linebackers maybe? It could be linebackers. It feels like more of a defensive position. I kind of like. Doberman feels like a defensive dog, right? So who's your wideouts? I want a Belgian Malinois as all my linebackers. They're very good dogs. I like Border Collies at corner. Border Collies at corner. That's good. I don't think they got speed. Border Collies? Bro, they fucking fly. Not compared to like a taller dog. Dude, they fucking fly. They can move. Border crawlies can move. They can move, but I think they're more safety movement. I don't think they're... Corner's got to be like the fastest dog breed. So what are you putting there? That's where your greyhounds come in or greyhounds might be too... They might not be agile enough. That's what I'm saying. That thing. Greyhounds don't want it bad enough. Greyhounds don't want it bad enough. Okay. Have you met a greyhound? No. Greyhounds don't have that dog in them. They're very skittish. Never met a greyhound. I've been on the greyhound so many times though. Okay. Yes. Yes, it's yes. Love the bus. Okay, where are we at? What about running back? What do you want at running back? Linebacker's got to be Belgium Allen. What's the one, not the German Shepherd, but there's another dog breed that is fucking unbelievable. More athletic than a Shepherd, but a little bit. I'm putting Vizsla. Vizslas are my corners. Those things can fucking haul ass. They're agile as shit. I might even put them at wide out. Ooh, that's a good choice. Vizsla? Whip it at wide out. Whip it's like your Darren Sproles. Kind of line them with a lot of plays. He's just little, kind of sneaking. I want to throw. What kind of offense are we running? If I'm on a Shanahan style offense, they'll put a whip at a running back and he'll get yards. Okay, so we've got quarterback. We got running. Wait, did we decide on running backs? We did not say running backs. Running backs. Okay. I'm trying to think of a dog that has that mentality. I mean, I guess maybe we're putting Doberman on defense, right? Yeah. Doberman's on defense. Border Collie wouldn't be a bad running back. Border Collie's not a bad, but I feel like I want Border Collie going out. I can see Border Collie at receiver. They're like the number one Frisbee dogs on the planet. Yeah. Got to be receiver. border collie weimaraner what a rhodesian ridgeback is that too big run power with him weimaraner is not a bad one either you also have the australian shepherd you could run the australian shepherd out of your backfield keep the border collie on defense australian shepherd's what you want out of the backfield it's too pretty running backs can be pretty oh jake just said dalmatian for running back i don't love that ew yeah that's why jake's not invited to this australian cattle dog kind of another like herding breed low to the ground i just feel he's got to be a little bit bigger you're running one power out of this thing what's the blue healer oh i'll do a blue healer it's not a bad i'll do a blue healer no what about like dogs that are sled pullers what like a husky or a malamute husky's not a bad choice i don't hate husky i mean i think that's the team boys i think we got it do we sit one of our d tackles we didn't do detail oh d tackles yeah maybe that's your chow i mean that's got to be your big just fat freaking yeah saint bernard saint bernard was the thing i was thinking too beethoven just drooling and getting freaking slobber all over the place saint bernard yeah it's a tackle i think we're good that's our team it's not a bad team okay i'm being asked to recap the team real quick sorry at quarterback we had german shepherd running back we did husky let's do a sledding dog our wide receivers what we throw out there that was our border collie border collie didn't we say the greyhounds uh i thought we said greyhounds don't have good ball skills we can do both greyhounds and we have one greyhound one border collie there you go border collie for sure though got a great how to take the roof off the thing but then border collie can freaking run all the way good call good call running the crossing routes crossing routes with the border collie we can all look the same yeah tight ends what we have great pyrenees great pyrenees uh all right we'll miss in here defensive tackle st bernard defensive ends we had our dobermans linebackers were malinois safety border collie visos at corner visos at corner Okay, that's a team. 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The place you go to lock in all the places that you want to go. Follow the show on all social media. Add New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. And thanks to our New Heights production team. We appreciate you guys more than we could ever say. And to the 92 percenters, we sure love you guys for listening to us, laughing at us. Thank you. Randy came on and we talked to him about the Edelnut story, the infamous giving you the nickname Edelnut. And he gave us a little more information. He said he was actually on the phone with his mother and you were swearing. And that's why he called you Edelnut because you were being a little. Were you swearing in front of Mrs. Moss? Let me clarify this story. This is on Christmas, Christmas Day. Yes, yes. We're in a locker room. It's Christmas, you know, early day, no post meetings. We get to go have a good dinner with the boys. Everyone's jolly in the locker room. I go to Randy, I go, hey, Randy. And I can hear he's talking to his mom. I said, tell Mama Moss, I said, Merry Christmas. Randy goes to me and he goes, Edelna, if you ever talk to me while I'm talking to my motherfucking mom, I will slap the shit out of you. And I'm a rookie. I was so scared. I was like, oh, man. I just disappointed him on Christmas. What's going on? I probably was cussing. I'm sorry, Mrs. Moss, if you heard any cuss words.