Gia Giudice & Jennifer Fessler: Christmas Reunion & Missing Mascara

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I'm glad that you're feeling so good about this, but the truth is I got fired and it's your fucking fault. She gets paid for this shit? You get paid for this shit. Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has issues. In this episode, Gia Judeis and Jennifer Fessler joined the show from New York City. We talk about my holiday travel drama, Midwest Danish's and a Christmas Reconciliation Miracle. Good afternoon. Hi, Merry Christmas. Thank you for not wearing any holiday sweaters. I know you considered it, Jen Fessler. I did. You were. I had it all set out. And then you thought, wait, where am I going? They're going to drag me, which we would have. 100%. So you went with all black. Yes, I was going to do, I had like a little red thing with a bow. I was going to be all Miss Claws. Oh, no, no, no, no. I was like, you have to think through where you're going. Yes, safe choice. You would have been ruthless, yes. Gia, I had asked you if you got a blowout for me. You said no. You said yes. I should have. Yes. You did that yourself. I did. Wow. Okay. It looks good. Is that all your hair? No, extensions. Oh, they look, they look very, very natural, I think. It blends right in. As does your faux fur coat. Yes, my faux fur. That's a good fake. It is. Naked wardrobe. Are you afraid of wearing real fur? Being judged. I'm not, but it is a very judgemental area, I feel. Yeah. Fessler and I were talking about this because I bought Monroe a, it's a dyed, it's a dyed pink fox fur coat. And I found it in a place down here in New York. And so I'm starting to get hate for it. I don't think it's that, it's fur. I think it's the fact that she's like eight. Of course, well, she's nine. Oh, nine. Oh, well, in that case. In that case. But. But you're allowed to spoil your child. Oh, you think that. No, no, they're upset that it's real fur. So, you know, I just let, I let them, and then once in a while I'll comment back. And so this guy was really judgmental. And I just said, all right, what do you want to do with all those firsts that were, you know, that are 50 or 40 or 60 years old? What do you want to do with them? Should we bury him? Should we throw him away? I go, I didn't commission the fur coat. I didn't commission it. I didn't kill any animals. No, just exist in the world and you had to buy it. But I would. And we had a custom for her and it's like, we're giving it a new life. We went down to this warehouse, which is wall to wall vintage first. And what are we going to do? We're just going to leave all those 5000 firsts. Can't say no to that. We're going to leave 5000 firsts in the warehouse where no one wears them. That's not worrying about the animals. You want us to wear plastic from Zara? That's way worse. The animals died 50 years ago. And I think there's more to it. It's not like, I don't, I don't think about that. You know, I like, I just like the way the coat looks. I'd rather not think about what happened to get the coat. I mean, right. That's why they're popular. People don't like to think it through. Exactly. And that animals were tortured so that you could wear that fur around your miserable body. Did you just get in from Vale? Yeah. How was it? You don't ski. Not good. You don't ski. Did you see Cameron Matheson? No. He was, he's in Vale. He's in Vale. Would you put me on some time? Do you have a tracker on his phone? How do you know this? No, because he talked about it at length. He was driving to Vale. Oh, I didn't. Yeah. I get distracted. No, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. You're not a fan of Cameron. But not a Vale. Not a Vale. Because you're not a skier. Right. Did Jeff Vessler ski? Yes, but it was record highs in Vale. So like, like, it was reaching a high of 30 years or something. And it was like 45 degrees. There was no snow. Oh, wow. And he doesn't ski a lot. My son and Jeff went and it was not, it was miserable. So they're all like bundled up the top of the hill and they're sweating buckets. And there's not like great snow and it was like all one hill. They closed all the other ones because of the snow. It was not good. Oh, that's unfortunate. Wait, Rachel didn't go to Vale? I can't take with you. When you say Rachel, the fact that you even know my daughter's name still freaks me out. She did go to Vale. Have you seen Rachel? She's so cute. Yeah, I mean, it's actually small world, but her boyfriend roomed with one of my best friends at Indiana. Harrison. Do you like him? You know, they're so cute. And my Christian actually ended up knowing Harrison. It was like such a small world. And then I saw Rachel Halloween. And then I saw him in New York. Rachel's on her way to Florida right now to see Harrison. Don't start. Just keep moving. I'm not doing anything. What are you talking about? I know what you're doing. I'm not doing anything. Just keep it moving. We're not starting with Harrison. Is it Keen that called him a little bitch? Yeah. That's because Keen has a thing for Rachel. Just stop. Stop it. Keen and Rachel are so cute together. I know. Could you stop? Can we keep moving? He would love Keen as a son-in-law. Oh my God. He'd be the cutest little son-in-law. He's funny too. And he's gorgeous and charming. I love him. I've seen him once before I compared him to Harrison and it didn't go well for me after. So can we just keep it moving? Sure. Okay. Thank you. So, I mean, we can discuss the elephant in the room. You're getting a call from Rachel after this. Yeah, I know. Gia, I was shocked to see on Instagram that your family and the Gorgas got together for Christmas Eve. Yeah, they invited us around Thanksgiving. So we've known for quite some time now that we were going to spend Christmas together. Were there cameras there? No. Just wondering. I don't care why they reconciled. I'm just happy they reconciled. Same. All right. So the invite was on Thanksgiving for Christmas Eve and the Gorgas had it at their home. Yeah. How was the food? It was okay. Yeah. Why did Melissa cook? No, they had a catered. Because you're being nice if that's the case. No, they had a catered. She didn't cook. But even next year, like my mom even said it, they should all cook together. Because it's always better. Even when my mom caters, it's just, it is what it is. There were certain things that were good, but like we're Italian, we want the seven fishes, we want like all the seafood. And so your mom hated the food and talked shit about it. No, we, like, no, we're just, no, no, we didn't talk shit. We just said it could have been better. No one is talking shit about anyone in that house. I understand the catering is never as good as home cooking. I understand. I mean, listen, my mom also catered on Christmas Eve. As a cook. And then my mom was like next year, I want to tell my brother like we should cook together. Because if you have help, then it's easier. But when you're doing it all by yourself, it's too much. Especially with you guys, there's so many kids, so many cousins. It's just too much. So next year. I had trouble with Monroe all by myself. I know what you're talking about. I was just saying. Your six hour flight? Yeah. Oh God. It's parenting. It's exhausting. It's a six hour flight and you took a one hour nap. Okay. So let me just tell you how. I'll go back to the party because I have lots of questions for you. So I didn't have anybody, no assistants, no nannies. We had to turn around twice and go back home because first I forgot to pass for it. And then Monroe was like, I forgot Uno. Now Uno is very important in our family. Like it really because otherwise we have to talk. So it's better that we play cards. So we had to turn around. I was like, Art, I'm really sorry. I'm going to tip you so well, but we got to go back again. So we had to go back and get the, did your family play Uno or left, right center? Left, right center. How fun is that? So fun. Did you play for Christmas Eve? No, my aunt, my Zia Maria does, my dad's side. They play games. Did you ever play it, Fessler? No, we don't play games in my family. You would like it. It's gambling. It's fun. It's easy. Yeah, it's fun. It's like you do it with like, we do it with coins. Really? Yeah. Oh, we do like. You could play with money. We do. Like you could do like $20. Oh, we start, we start at 20s. Yeah. Yeah, but sometimes. How generous. But yeah, we'll get up to, we'll get up to $1,000 games. That's with Monroe. It's fun. Well, she, no, she backs out after the $20 games. Yeah. No, she's not a high roller. Cause I told you, you can't gamble what you don't have. So then what, there's like a decent amount of you then you have like a, or like, you know, a decent amount of people. So everyone puts in 20. Yeah. That's fun. It's a good time. You'd like it cause it doesn't require a lot of thought. Yeah, right. There's no strategy. There's no like that is, I mean, you're onto something. You just rolled it out. I'm not into board games. Never was. You know, you're not going to be very stressful because they're not happy for you when you win. No, they're not. Like everyone's pissed that it's not them. Well, Kean, your future son-in-law. Why are you saying it like that? Because I know it's going to happen. You're all lit up. No, I love him for you guys. Really? I wanted to be part of your family. Kean Vessler. Sorry. Who is Kean? He's the other guy who works with us. I'm so much trouble. He's our other producer. You've met him. No, you don't understand. You've met him. You've met him. Oh, have I? He's gorgeous, adorable, charming. He's, he almost lost his life. What? Because on Thanksgiving, we brought him in for the first time. He won three games in a row of Left Right Center, and I swear to God, my family was about to beat the shit out of him. They were going to pull him outside and fucking bury him in the yard. That's how, that's, yeah. It's, it's high stakes. It's poor winners and poor losers. Wait, my friends are coming over tonight. I want, now I want to play. You have to play. And I want to play with 20 bucks. But we need some, we need some, like, you know, like, Nate, what is it? What's that saying in the game? Make up the stakes? Up the ante? No. Skin in the game? Skin in the game. There you go. Start with fives, go to 10s, go to 20s. Yeah. Bring a couple of hundreds just in case. Yeah. It's so. I have some Christmas money. Mm-hmm. What'd you get it from, mom? My nana. Oh, nana. Yes. What did, because Louise gives a real good gift. I've seen what he's given your mom. What'd she get this year? They actually did, like, a vacation. They've been on, like, two vacations in the past, like, two weeks. So they went. They're doing vacays. Yeah. Is that because there's just no more room on her body for any more jewelry? No. I mean, when my mom really puts the jewelry on. It's insane. It's like up to here, the bracelet. It's crazy. I never saw, like, just watching you guys on Instagram, you get glammed for Christmas. Yeah, we do. Can you see what's going on? It's like. The dresses. The dress that tits out for her. It's like the Kardashians. Yeah. And on Christmas Eve, she always likes us to look fabulous. And then Christmas Day is pajamas, which I love. Plus, I mean, your mom had to know that those photographs were going to go everywhere and they did. I think they're on page six this morning. Wait, were we? Yeah. Oh, that's fun. You don't get like, I can't believe that you allowed me on today. Like everybody in the world. We couldn't find anyone else. I know. It's death of Christ. Reliance. Fair enough. She has been booked since, like, August. Yeah, no, we saw the Bravo Con. Yeah. Jen, when did you get your call? I got like three days ago. You're like, what do you can I call to come on the day after Christmas? Yeah, exactly. And even at Bravo Con, they were like, are you sure? Like day after Christmas? I'm like, yeah, that's fine. I was like, I'll be fine. I mean, it's cute. This is like the first interview after, like go, ask her some good questions. Like I have so many, so much shit I want to know. Your co-host, go ahead. No, I'm too scared. I'm too scared. I just want to know how like everyone got along. Was it, I'm going to let you do this. You already started it. That's what people want to know. Ask the questions. So who reached out to who first? Yes, good question. In general. It was just unspoken. You're saying in general or about Christmas? No, for Christmas. In general. No, in general. Who reached out? Let's go, there. Did Joe reach out or did your mom reach out? My mom. Nice. Okay, good. And then that's what- Your mom has grown. Yeah. I'm not kidding. It was like after Special Forces and after our interview with you. Yeah. You like, you talked some, you talked some magic. Get out. No, we did. No, we did. We did have a deep, long talk about this. I was there. I don't remember. I was on first. You're so self-involved. All you do is like you're on your phone. You're absolutely right. And you were staring at Kean. You're right. You're like, all right, when are you going to be in New York? So I can introduce you to my daughter. I was like that. Stop. Okay. So they had their first conversations. That was pre-BravoCon. Because at BravoCon, that was the first time that it really was public. Public. Yeah. And they didn't make like their conversations public or anything like that. It was, they met alone at the cemetery first and that it was just them at first, just my mom and her brother. Then after that conversation went really well. So then they were like, okay, now it's time to have a conversation us four. So then my mom, Louie, my XeoMilasa and my XeoJo all met at a park. And then they had a really nice talk from there. They went to Willow and Wisk after to eat. So it worked out well. And then they went from the park to dinner. Yeah. And then they figured at Willow and Wisk, you know, it's a very, yeah, it's like a very popular brunch spot in Bergen County. Said there's no alcohol served there. There isn't. That's good. Interesting. I know. I know. Yeah. But so they figured, you know, they were going to go to Willow and Wisk and I'm pretty sure like, I'm, I think people picked it up there. Like people took pictures of them and that's kind of how it got out. But they, they were like, okay, whatever, we can't hide forever. They went to the cemetery. They went to the park. Like now they were like, we're good. And yeah, then from there, there was just a lot of communication, just talking every day and just always like, just maintaining the peace, talking through things. And then I went to Gino and Joey's football game, like alone by myself. I was just like in the stands with like my dog Bella, just watching their football game. And it was, it was so, it was so cute. They're both beasts. They're insane. Like Gino is such an amazing athlete. So is Joey. Joey was bulldozing down that field. Like he's like, you know, we're Italian, we know, we're, we're tiny, we're short. But like the way Joey bulldozed down that field, I was like jaw dropped. And then I called my mom after cause she used to watch my Zio Joe like play football her entire life. My uncle went to college for football. So he was really good. I was like, I've never seen obviously Zio Joe play, but how good he was like Joey has to be him on the football field. Like there's no way. And I was telling Joey that on Christmas Eve and he goes, yeah, and I was injured too. I was like, that was you injured? I was like, that's crazy. How long had it been since you talked to your cousins? Long. Years? Yeah. Yeah. Two years, three years, four years. I mean, when did my mom get married? I don't know when your mom got married. Three, at least three. We can look it up. Yeah. Yeah. I think like three years. Must have been so nice to reconnect. What about Antonia? It was, it was good. It was really good. I mean, my family got to Christmas Eve a little before me because I had to spend it with Christian's family first. So I think I got there like 20 minutes later than that. But it was, I think they broke the ice. So then when I walked in, I was just like, Hey, everyone. Yeah. We were like drinks. Like it was like, you know what? He was the picture. You sitting on Joe Gorg's lap. Oh yeah. Because I remember just like when you guys got into that one fight, which I will not bring up, but it was a fight. You just did a spread of it. I know. Yeah. When you got into that vicious fight a few years ago, but like you were his girl. Yeah. You know, like he always talked about how you were the first. You're the oldest. Yeah. Well, it was just everything. You know, I was the oldest, the first born. Like my aunt came into my life when I was three. So like my uncle like literally praised me because I was the, I was the baby. So he was over my mom and dad's house every day. Like I was like his baby. But um, but yeah. So, you know, we, and we talked through all that too. And it was, you know, it was more so just like communicating me voicing to him, you know, why I was so angry at that time, like what angered me and like he said his side. And it was, you know, I think growing and just learning through everything I am like I'm entitled to my opinion. He's entitled to his opinion. I can't take his feelings away and I can't take my feelings away. So it was more so like just dishing everything out, but realizing like we're both entitled to like our feelings and opinions, but now it's time to move on. This child is 25. No, she's very evolved, but you were forced to grow up at a very young age, which is why you're so together and responsible. And you know, it's like talking to, you know, obviously you look 17 years old, but it's like talking to a 40 year old. They're like, you're so young. Yeah, you look so young. So I do have a question. Did you guys exchange gifts? Yeah. Did you get a lot of clothes from envy? No, we didn't. I love her so much for this is actually. This is a discount. No, love her so much, but this is actually the first year because obviously we've spent Christmases together before, but this is the first year. No clothes from envy. Wow. Oh, but there's some nice things from Mendy. Oh, were you bummed? Of course. Um, you get sprinkle cookies. Yeah. She obviously had her sprinkle. I think they're real good. She sent them to me for the holidays. I still love those. They are good. Me too. He loved the cake. I like your mom liked the sprinkle cookies, be honest. Or did she talk shit in the car and went home? No, I mean, regardless, I think the cake is, is better. And I told her that. I see. I think they're better. Really better. Funny. I think the cake is too sweet for me. Okay. See, I, I like crumb cake though and like the crumb on top and everything was really good. I thought the cake was also really like moist. Like it was like good. Yes. Do you like anisette? I think there's anisette in the cookies. Is there that licorice, that like kind of licorice flavor? I think there might be. There's not like an Italian thing. Well, there's also almond paste. Or maybe. Yeah, but I like the sprinkle cookies for me and they were like a little like, I don't love, I don't love bakery cookies. Yeah. Maybe don't put down your aunt's sprinkle cookies. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I love the saying. I'm not. Okay, so I have to agree. No, no, no, no. Wow. So you really hate those cookies. No, I like that. I love that. I like the cake better. What kind of cookies do you like, Gia? No, only cookies. Not even. Just anything that's not Melissa's. No, are you out of your mind? Not even. I'm not a cookie. I'm not like a cookie versus. Wow. Okay. All right. No. I get it now. I, I, guys, I'm not kidding. I really like the cake. Wait, is this the first time you've been to the new house? Yeah, it's gorgeous. I know it is. Yeah, really pretty. They did a really nice job with the house. You've been there, right? Yes, gorgeous. Hmm. I mean it. So everything was good except for the sprinkle cookies and the food. And the catering, really. And you're very happy you didn't get any closer, MNB. No, I mean, our gifts were awesome. We got, she got us carry on luggage from Bayes with the weekenders on top of them. It was like perfect. Wow. Yeah, well, because we're going to. It's a thoughtful gift. So nice. Cause she was like, we always travel. It was a really nice gift. I got a brown base set. Like it was so cute. I don't know what bees is luggage. Luggage. So I noticed the biggest problem between your mom and your uncle where that they can't let shit go. They, they bring it up from like years ago. Are we all committed now to like move really, truly move on and not like even if we have a couple of drinks in us to not bring up the past, because that usually is where if things go wrong. Yeah. I, yeah. No, I think they have to. Yeah. Forget, move on. They have to. It sounds like they're doing it right in the sense that you were actually talking through things. I think the issue is when we say, okay, we're going to forget and forget and not bring it up. But you don't. Yeah. I mean, listen, even when I showed up, you know, I had, you know, my own side conversation with Antonia, like even when we were opening gifts, I was definitely a couple drinks in, but it was the only time where we were alone without like, cause she had some company over just like her close friends that like, uh, she spends Christmas Eve with, but it was the only time where we were actually alone, just us. And I even said something like to my cousins, like, I'm sorry for like the disconnect. And I'm so happy that like we're here in a place where we're together. And it was kind of just even, I think, you know, my mom and my aunt, but everyone like chimed in and they were just like, you know, let bygones be bygones and we have to move on. Something very smart that it took me, uh, until I was 54 to learn that you've learned now in, in, when there's situations of conflict or even disagreement, even if you're a hundred percent right, which by, by the way, sometimes I am not all the time, but sometimes I'm a hundred percent right. You can't, if you're really want to bury this, you got to find something to be responsible, accountable and apologize for. So there's, I had a disagreement with a friend recently. I am a hundred percent right, but I had to like really figure out, I'm like, Oh, you know where I went wrong. I should have communicated sooner. Right. That's a bullshit. It's total bullshit. Totally insincere. Absolutely. But I had to give her something because otherwise there was going to be no movement, right? Even if we're a hundred percent right. Yeah. So you did good even by, you know, cause look, you, you kids have nothing to do with this. No, we don't. You don't really owe any of the cousins an apology. You don't, but it's good that you did. I felt though, as the oldest that it was a little, you know, it was kind of on me, not on me, but I just felt like I had to say something and, um, you know, our situations were different and I also explained that to them. Like my mom, you know, her husband wasn't around. She was by herself and it was me as the oldest who was there for her. So yeah, did I maybe get involved into adult family conversation? Sure. But it was because she didn't have her partner there to help her or defend her or help her work through these situations. Like I was her person. So that was kind of what I explained also. And I think that's when you sit back and you're like, okay, I understand. Like every family's put in a different situation, but that's why like mine was a little different because our dad was gone for majority of the feud. Well, that brings up a good point. I wonder, I'm sure this is, um, it's, I'm sure it's something that the Gorgas have considered. Your mom has been through something that most people have not been through. Right. So as a result, there's a lot of trauma, right? Of course. So I think that like with Jen, for example, we have a lot of empathy for Jen and we, you know, we caught you a lot of slack. I appreciate it. Yeah. You know, it's funny cause season 14. So I don't, whatever scene it was, it was Danielle's bougie party or something. And you were there with your mom and we're just like kind of, she's not coming back. Right. Who Danielle, please tell me, I don't know nothing about nothing. Anyway, I don't know. So anyway, anyway, anyone else, anyone else, anyway, so, and that clothing line, oh my, okay. So anyway, Gia, who'd put their kids in those clothes? So we are child abuse. I can't actually like Danielle. She's a nice woman. I'd rather Minrobian for every day instead of wear that. That's a bougie kid. So anyway, we're talking and whatever to scene or shooting the shit and everything that comes out of Teresa's mouth is followed by something that Gia says translating. Like I'm like, Gia, like she would say something and then Gia would be like, what she means, Jen is. And I think this child is, has, she is so such an old soul. Therapy speaks Teresa. Actually, no, I tried therapy, didn't really love it. Wow. This must be healthy and grounded. Can you imagine that? No, I'm not. No, I'm not. No, no, I'm talking to the wrong, I'm not talking to you yet. Could you imagine that chain? Go on Gia. Yeah. No, no, I know people like, and I really gave it a shot. I even tried to like, I got, I got a life coach. I really tried. I just never connected with anyone. Cause I, I definitely had some trauma that I probably still could work through and talk. My guess is yes. Yeah. I'm voting. Yeah. 100%. But I just never really connected with someone. And you know what's annoying? You have to just like in the first couple of therapy sessions, explain your story over and over and over and over again. And the therapist has to pretend like they don't know. Yes. With you. And I'm like, do I really need to explain all of this? Like this is what happened. It's like, I tell this story every day. It's like, I'm so over it. Well, maybe they want to hear it coming from you and your perspective. Right. Yeah. And how you, and how you choose to look at it and interpret it. Yeah. So I think that's probably important. No, you're right. I want to ask you something. So you're, you've, uh, you're from a very public family, right? Do you think that the public pressure, like I know, for example, like I happened to really love the Gorgas and I happened to really love your mom and Louis. So for me, like I would love to see a reconciliation, right? And I, I imagine with the millions of fans out there that there was, was there public pressure because I, I, I have, I've had also a lot of, um, uh, conflicts and what happens is. Yeah. Not you stop it. It's shocking. Yeah. And I find that sometimes I'll get, I'll get DMs like, you know, you guys were so good together and you had so much fun together and this person was so good on the radio and would you ever consider and, and, and, and there's no familiar, familiar, uh, connection. And I'm just curious, did they ever, do you think that the public support had something to do with it? Well, I think the biggest thing was, you know, my, my aunt, I, I liked her Instagram caption. My uncle also said something at Bravo con. So did my mom. Like we all did. It's like, don't question it. Just support it. And I think, you know, obviously there was teams, team Teresa, team Melissa, like it was so ugly, like that it came to a point of there should be no teams because at the end of the day, you're just hoping for a family to stay broken. And that's kind of why their whole, like when we even are talking about it in the press, it's just support it. Don't, we don't. You know, we, you should be happy that the family is reconciled and reconnected. Like just keep your opinions to yourself. But I think you'd be surprised at how many are team both. They are right. Yes. Yeah. I've been watching from day one. I don't know what season are they on now? Real hard. Well, they're not right now. They're on no season. What was the last season? 14. So, you know, obviously I remember in the very beginning, right? And so you're nostalgic for when they were together. And I was thinking about this morning when I was getting ready. I'm like, okay, what would I like to see next season? I'd like to see Teresa and Melissa together go after someone. Yeah. You're right. Like Danielle. You know what I mean? Like I'd like to see that. You know what I mean? Like I want to see like a union, like a commemoration, like to have each other's backs and take down Jenfest's. I knew that was coming. A hundred percent. Yeah. That sounds like a lot of fun. No, I mean, Melissa, to take my ass down. They would never. I could be the sacrificial lamb and I would be. Please. I would crumble into like a million fucking pieces. Like a sprinkle cookie. I think it's, I think it's very evident. You know, they are, they're both powerful, but like the power that our family has now, like that we are together, like we could like dominate anything. Yeah. You could take on anything or anyone. Just not Jen Fessler. If it has to be Jen Fessler, I mean, look, it's for the good of the show. You're right. If I'm even back on the show, who knows? I would put you back on the show just to kick you off. 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I think it's my love language too. The nastier you are, the more I love you. We were talking about this. So you were saying, well, Rachel's not that way, right? Because I said that Monroe was a bit spicy. Yeah. And she's mean to me, but she's funny. So she makes me laugh. Right. No, Rachel's just mean. Mean without the funny. Now you girls and your makeup, my God, like we had a full blown emergency on this flight. So Monroe was very careful about what she brought. She went through all her lipsticks and this and now she's wearing mascara. And we had nine, right? Yeah. We had to travel perfume. We had everything in the in the in the bag. And then we went to take off. Her bag wasn't closed all the way. So the bag toppled over and all the makeup came and everything started rolling down the aisles. That's not good. That is not good. So and we're like going up, we're ascending and it's turbulent. And I said, and she's taken, I'm like, you can't take off your seatbelt right now. You cannot get up. She's like, I got to get my makeup. I said, all right, let daddy. So I'm like reaching. I'm like kicking shit, trying to pick it all up. So we're missing now. She does. She does a complete inventory. And we're now, and this is why we're still descending. And she's like, I need my perfume and I need my mascara. And I'm like, I'm guessing those are round and that's why they rolled back. And she's like, you need to ask the lady behind us. And she's like, just obsessive about it. And so we start, so we start to kind of level off and I kind of reach over and I'm like, I'm really sorry, but my daughter's, she seems to have lost her makeup and she finds the perfume. So she hands me the perfume, but then that's not good enough. She's like, I need my mascara. I need my mascara. What is the daddy? You have to ask her for the mascara. What in the baby Jane is going on here? She's nine. I don't, I mean, well, she tells me that a, what did she say? A woman never leaves the house without her lipstick. Of course. This is adorable. I love, you're raising a little, a little diva. Yeah. A hundred percent. So then she's, I feel like you're going to kick yourself later. Oh no, no, it's so much worse. So then the OCD is kicking in and she's like, ask her, ask her daddy, ask her. I said, wait until we level off and wait and I'll ask her. And, and then she's like, I have to go to the bathroom. I go, okay. She's like, go with me. I go, it's right there. She's like, go with me. So, and she had to go three times. So I had to stand outside the door and then, uh, I'm, I'm not kidding. When I say I work for her and then I had to ask the lady, she couldn't find the mascara. She's like, daddy, any men mascara? I said, we are landing at eight 30. We are going right to the hotel. We're not going anywhere. And she goes, there's a Sephora in the airport. I go, I am not shopping. I'm how eight. I said, I have a greeter. I have two cars. I got somebody to get in the back. I go, I want to get in the car and get to the hotel. She's like, there's a Sephora right there. I go, we'll take you to Sephora. First thing in the morning. First thing in the morning. And then she just wouldn't fucking let up about this mascara. It's her mascara. She has blood eyelashes. So guess where she's right now? Sephora. Sephora. And you, the good, she wouldn't be at like CVS, like buying Maybelline. No, fuck no. She said it was Charlotte Tilbury. Right. Some $30 mascara. Charlotte. Well done. Well done. So then I said, she said it was a hundred. Yeah. A hundred? Well, you said, so what you told me, which really helped. So she was like, tell her the one on park avenue is the one on park avenue on fifth avenue. On fifth avenue. He's like, it's the biggest Sephora. She's going to go crazy. So I said, Shane says, it's the biggest Sephora. It's bigger than when we have an LA blah, blah, blah. She's excited. So she's down. I said, I'm going to give you my credit card. You can just, you can just replace the mascara. She goes, what's my limit? I said, I said, I said, what are you talking about? She goes, what's my limit? She goes, I, she goes, can I pick up a lip gloss? I said Monroe, you're going in and you're getting the mascara and you're done. So then now I wouldn't. So she's like, give me the card. I go, I don't trust you. I'm giving you cash. Can I keep the change? I go, you can keep the change. I don't care. But then she's like, I want to go to F.A.O. Schwartz. I said, you're not buying anything else. I said, we're done. Christmas is done. Santa. And then I did pull a, a Joan Crawford on her and I said, a mommy dearest, I said, you have so much stuff. You are giving away half of what you got for Christmas. So, so go through it. She did it. Did you beat her with a wire hanger? I didn't have to. There's so much stuff that, um, she's, she agreed. So we did give away half. I mean, some of those gifts were kind of shit anyway. So I'm not that gifts are going to the, you know, the needy kids. So, um, she's got a whole Barbie. It's, it's like a town now. So I think we have a community. It's a community. Now she was telling me that right now there's five Barbie houses, five. Now, because everybody needs a bed, right? There's a lot of Barbies. And the labubus have their own home, right? But she needed another, uh, another one for Christmas. So she now has this, the Barbie townhouse. That's the sixth house in her playroom. She said those are for the celebrity Barbies. The elite, is that like American girl? I had no idea there were celebrity Barbies. That is chic. I love this. Well, I don't think that there are. Wait, no, they do. Like, I don't know. They do. Like, I'm pretty sure certain celebrities have Barbie. There's like a Taylor Swift Barbie. I think there's like a Beyonce Barbie. Is there not? Or just ones that come in like a gorgeous gown versus like trash Barbie and like. Yeah, there is trashy Barbies. No, but yeah, I asked her, I go, what's, which ones are the celebrities? She goes, Oh, they're a band. So I think she put together a band. A girl group. Oh, she's a very Simon Cowell of her. I love it. Yes. I mean, like Bratz had their own like Barbies. So the, I guess the celebrities are living in the new townhouse that they just got. But yeah, so that's kind of what happened. Now I did, she did let me sleep. Well, she woke me up the first time and then I was desperate. I'm like, Monroe, you got to let me sleep. You got to just let me sleep. She let me sleep for one hour. Very sweet. So they worked. I did a five hour shift with a one hour break. But yes, how was the lounge? The lounge within the lounge, actually, she was very nice. I thought Doug said there was no more lounge within a lounge until the end of the year. I got to tell you what happened to Doug. What happened? What did you do? Doug was supposed to be here with us this weekend. Um, he is on his plane yesterday morning. He was leaving at 10 45. We were leaving at noon. He texts me. He's like, I just stepped off the plane. I go, what are you talking about? Cause he was like telling me he was boarding all of this. I go, what are you talking about? Like he goes, I'm in severe pain. I'm going to the hospital. Severe pain. So he gets on the plane. Everybody's ready to go. He suddenly has all this crazy stomach pain. He goes to Cedars. He's passing a kidney stone. So they have his own IV pain medication. And then he said he was in so much pain last night. It was severe. And you know, his bed, his bed tells him when to come to bed and all that. I remember that. I bet you're because I didn't sleep the whole night ago. I bet your bed was so upset. And so he said he was going to go. Um, the doctor said he was going to pass it in the next 24 to 48. We're on, we're on a kidney stone watch. Well, first of all, he was in the hospital on Christmas Eve. You think the doctor that was there knew what the fuck was going on on Chris like they had some doctor. They pulled in off the street. So let's hope it was. Those are so painful. Did you send him something horrible? No, he didn't. He didn't, he didn't send them anything, but he did say it because I'm in the year right now. He said, uh, it's a lesbian doctor. I said, you're in good hands. Yeah. That's the best case scenario. Why? Lesbians. Oh, need I say more? They make a doctor. Yeah. Confident. They're good at everything. Confident. Tough, but sympathetic. Yep. Just kind of perfect. I said, you've got this as best case scenario. You're in good hands. I don't worry about you, but he's going to have to go. Uh, he's going back this morning. Really? So poor Dougie. That's how he spent his Christmas. Shouldn't have taken down the tree. Remember? He said, I'm going to take it down before I go. Now he's got no tree. You're home. You're stuck at home. You're sick. No tree. No joy. I told you, should have waited till the new year. He was going to come with you. How long are you here for? I just till Sunday. So he was coming just to be with you or is he going to be on? His mom lives here. Oh, right. See, you know, he's mentioned that about 50,000 times to you. Yeah, he has, honestly, but I don't listen to anybody. It's not about me. I'm not listening. He's from New York. Yes. I know that. He's the old, his mother, I know all about it. He stole the paintings off the walls. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sweet Dougie. Now, Jen, yes, I heard that you have a new brand deal. Right. These are few and far between Gia for you as an influencer. I'm sure you get five offers in the last half an hour you've been here. She just went to Turks and Caicos for a brand deal. Of course. Jen Fessler, dream of that. Right. I proved my point. Jen Fessler, it's, I hesitate to talk about any deals I have since you've already ruined several of them. Uh, several, you mean in the one? Yes. The one you had an American dream mall. Right. In my mind, it was several. Okay. Thank God. I mean, she was unemployed for a while. Yeah. And she got back, baby. She got a new bag. She got a new deal with what is it? Kringle, I think, I think with a K. Kringle. Is it Chris Kringle or Kringle? No, it's just Kringle. It is a pastry. I just try to remember with how they want me to describe it from Wisconsin. It, it's absolutely delicious. Nick, you're looking at me. Do you know what? I'm out of cut shit. No, it is literally, I brought you guys last time I was here. I brought you my left over. Delicious. Yes. Delicious. But so I was freaking out and made some, I don't know, post about it. Losing my, I was in the, like in my hotel room, probably like about to, yeah, it's about to see you guys. And the hotel left it, the Beverly Hills hotel. I guess that's something that they do. They left this huge Kringle in the room. Wow. I know. And I know maybe. Yeah. I think it was them. Okay. So what are you doing? So, um, for them exactly. Please no reels. Please no posts. What am I doing for them? I'm talking about them on Jeff Lewis. You guys, you have Trader Joe's. Okay. You're doing all this for free Kringle. Trader Joe's. No, I don't think so, honey. They're good. They ain't that good. So it's available to Trader Joe's. Not just Trader Joe's. You can order them. They're from Racine, Wisconsin. And you'll be amazed. You will get people die. It's the most delicious thing. Are they as good as most of Gorgas sprinkle cookies? Cause those are pretty damn good. Ask, ask Gia. I mean, it's different. I've never had a Kringle. You never had a Kringle. It's different. They're different. I would say I don't even know what a Kringle is. A Kringle is like, you know why? Cause she's not selling it. That's the problem. She's not selling it. We don't know what the fuck it is. It's like a Danish. Welcome. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like a croissant. It's like, no, it's not. I think I'm in all different flavors. Oh, no. So it's like a strudel. So wait, the point is I posted about it or talked about it on some real. And I got a million DMs, people talking about Danish Kringle. Oh my God. It's the best. Here's where you get it. Look, Trader Joe's Bakery. Yeah, it really is. It's your big place. I think if you heat that up a little butter on it. No, you don't need butter. You don't need butter. No, I want butter on it too. I feel like that reminds me of like a cinnamon. Yeah. I put butter on it. No, it's so good. And then I actually served it the other day with for Hanukkah, which none of you would know is the festival of lights, but it has to do with oil, people eat doughnuts. And now I'm bringing, I'm sort of reinventing the Kringle and it's going to be a specialty for Hanukkah. I'm sorry. You, you, Jen Fessler. You're reinventing it. She's rebranding. It's like a huge company. People everywhere die from Kringle. Wow. They're so lucky to have you. You're bringing the Kringle back. I'm bringing a Kringle. Can you get it online? You don't know. You don't know. I would think. I'm sure about you. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. Yes, you can. Also, if you're doing Door Dash, I'm sure you could like Door Dash from Trader Joe's. Ah. Yeah. Look at that. I'm helping Jen out. Now all of a sudden, they're going to call Gia Jus. She's going to represent Kringle. At least know how to buy it. There's so many flavors. I know. Almond, apple, banana, birthday, blueberry, cherry, cherry, cheese, cinnamon rolls. There are so many flavors. Cinnamon rolls. Say them again, Shane. It keeps going. Right. It's going. And I think that probably people are going to want them for New Year's and for Valentine's Day. So I'm going to be busy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, also I would like sell it as like, it's a good thing. Great breakfast option. It's a great breakfast option. Not to take business away. Not to take away from Jen Fessler. Tell us the different flavors and where you can buy the Kringle. Well, I'm looking at your. Exactly how it would be a great American dream. My personal favorite is the almond Kringle. However, I love apple, banana, birthday cake, wild blueberry, cherry, cinnamon roll, Copenhagen. I love Copenhagen. Oh, I would do the cinnamon. I would do the. What flavor is Copenhagen? I was going to say, what's Copenhagen? Copenhagen's a place. It's inspired by my travels. It's just, um, wow. But the whole vibe of Kringle is that it's cozy. There's like a word for it that I don't know. You are so full of shit. You should do it. I'm not kidding. You should just set up, like put a fire on, have your Kringle, your coffee. A cozy Kringle and coffee. Yeah. Yeah. What a perfect afternoon. I mean, I'm not doing that in there. Still paying me. So I'm out of fire. I would do. Yeah. I would let Jen go. I don't have you and Gia. Yeah. I think perfect influencers. You've been here three minutes and you know more about the Kringle than she does. I can picture. We make a reel, we pull it out of the oven. We take a little bite of coffee. No, it is. That is what they're branding is though, that it's cozy food. It's like I had it for the first time in bed. It's comfort. It's comforting. Crazy and Jen's at the door. Yes. Yeah. Crazy and Jen. Didn't someone bring in a kidney stone that they had passed once? That was disgusting. I hope Doug won't do that. I think, I think, um, Patrick did that. You could save that. Like you could save kidney stones, like teeth. That's weird. Gross. There's a lot of Kringle calls. I know. Wow. People love their Kringles. I tell you, they do. This is really funny. They don't really need me. They're huge. Kringle's huge. They sell themselves. They do. They do sell themselves. Okay. Sandy in Memphis. She wants to educate you, Jen. Okay. Hi, Sandy. Hi, Sandy. Hi everybody. Um, I love your show, Jeff and Gia. I think you're awesome. Oh, thank you. Um, so I grew up in Wisconsin. I don't live there anymore, but it is a big deal in the state of Wisconsin. I know. And it's, it's a little, it's very seen Wisconsin, which is a little south of Milwaukee, and it's got the largest Danish population in North America. And they brought that with them way back then. And the reason it's called a Kringle is because it's the origin of that word is oval around. So the, the Danish is round, almost like a pretzel with the hole in the middle. Sarah, you have no idea how much I appreciate all of this. I should be writing it down. Her name is Sandy. First of all, flavors and it's a big deal in Wisconsin. And I just found out Trader Joe sells them, which is crazy because you used to have to have them fed X to you from, what's up from Jen just found out it was a traitor. Yeah. Yeah. This morning. No, I'm writing all of this down as you're talking and somebody said, I said, Racine raw, it's a lot seen. Is that how you say it? What are you talking about? Wisconsin's official. This is Sandy. A Memphis as a 2013. Yeah. Thank you, Sandy. Thank you, Sandy. Thank you so much. Anybody has any information about cringles? If you could just tell me, okay. So Jen, what, what did you learn from Sandy? I thought her name was Sarah. Something about Sandy says no, Kringle, Kringle is Danish. Yeah. A lot of Danish people. Kringle means in Wisconsin or something. I don't know. Yeah. I didn't take anything from that call. Okay. Casey is very sweet. Oh, calling from a truck in West Virginia. Hi, Casey. Hey Jeff, Shane, Gia, Jen. Hi, Casey. What's up, Casey? I love this. I got a Kringle the other day for one of my customers and it was so fucking good. It's one of the pecan one. It's so good, right? So yummy. I mean, I've never tasted that one. Well, anything with pecan is fucking good. So, Casey, which flavor did you buy? The pecan. The pecan. Got it. Yeah. Okay. No, I haven't ever had that one. I want to try the cinnamon one. Okay. Same. Well, Trader Joe's. Thanks, Casey, for your call. I guess cringles are a big deal. I told you they're a huge deal. And they've never had anyone represent them before. Oh, that's amazing. Is that true? Yeah. Well, that's a very slow budget. They didn't have a lot of money. Look, who can we get? Of all the people. Of every celebrity, every influencer. I mean, look what she did for American Dream Mall. Oh, Jen. So next, Jen, NYC. Yeah, we season two. When does that come out? Just wrapped. I don't know. Probably soon. I mean, they haven't announced anything yet, but I mean, I'm assuming probably within the next like, I would assume six months. I mean, normal turnaround time. Who are we friends with? Who are we beefing? I'm like, I'm good with everyone. Thanks for listening. 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