Presenting: Julia on Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers

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Family trips with the Myers brothers is hosted by Seth Myers and his crazy brother Josh. Each week, they chat with guests about their most memorable family vacations, you know, the hilarious, the disastrous, and everything in between. I was just on the show with my two boys, my two men, and we had such a good time. I think you'll really enjoy it. And after you listen, check out Family Trips on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Happy holidays from all of us here at Wiser than me. Hey, Baji. Hey, Suvi. So we're recording this before you come out and do the Thanksgiving show with Mom and Dad. Yeah. It's an annual tradition. I guess this is the 12th year or the 11th year must be the 11th year. I don't know. So however many years you've been on the air with that show, no way to know. Do you look forward to this tradition, Pashi? I do. I mean, I do get nervous. Yeah. There's always an element of nerves around it. And I forget, like, I mean, you guys are so good for people who don't do this show every night. Because even like, you know, celebrities who come on talk shows, who do other talk shows get nervous. It's a whole different thing. It's not a normal thing. Yeah. I know of a celebrity who would sort of is a household name who has a couple beers before every talk show appearance. And it just sort of like eases them into it. And so I think that's a wise approach. And maybe I'm going to do something similar. Well, we always have a drink on the show. Yeah, we've drank on the show. But I think you can have a drink before the show at this point in our process of doing it. Yeah. Um, um, um, mom and dad are probably going to come with stories. Mm-hmm. Um, mom, you know, uh, mom's been read hot the last couple of years. Yeah. I mean, they're both so practiced at this point. Dad's like, Dad's classically growing up, you know, he was the storyteller. Yeah. Um, but mom has, uh, she's got an edge that, uh, you know, she has such a sweet appearance. Then she throws out some barbs. Yeah, she's got some barbs. Yeah, it's a good way to put it. I feel like the audience always appreciates that. I certainly do. She, um, uh, dad is like so confident. He's surprised he hasn't been booked on like other talk shows. That's kind of dad's vibe. Yeah. Uh, I'm very much looking forward to it. I think we're going to try to get you guys to do a skit again. Oh, great. Yeah. That's, uh, that's an extra special part for me. And, uh, and then we're going to have our, uh, our fakes giving. Yeah. We've, uh, you know, for years and years, we would have Thanksgiving with, uh, this family from Amsterdam, the Moscow's, uh, first with just the parents. And then they had two boys who are now, I don't know, 23 and 21, something like that. Yeah. We've been doing it for a long time and they, uh, have started coming to New York. So we could have a pseudo Thanksgiving dinner that we do on, uh, Tuesday night, Tuesday night. And I think we're, uh, I think we're 20 people strong this year. That's amazing. Yeah. It's really good. It's a really good group. Um, and I look forward to that. And, uh, it's very fun to be at a, uh, at a Thanksgiving dinner. That's a fake Thanksgiving dinner because that way I don't have to invite my children. And at no point, well, I'm enjoying my dinner. I just someone say to me, like try to get Axel to eat his green beans. I like that. I've also, you know, we, we've always played games with this family. Also, I should say, you know, my mother-in-law will be there. My wife will be there. Um, but I have sent you a couple games which are arriving today. Okay. Um, so, uh, just keep those on hand because Wednesday, we, you know, we taped the show on Wednesday. And then we go back to your house, uh, for sort of a, a double dip. And we get some Chinese food and we hang out and play games. So hopefully that game night's going to be a fun, very, very much look forward to it. Um, we have had a lot of different combinations of guests. We've had, um, uh, mother-daughter. Uh, we've had married couples. We've had, uh, the sisters. Mm-hmm. This is a new combo for us coming up. Yeah. Maybe, maybe my favorite combo we've ever had. Yeah. Well, I mean, the top of this pyramid is tough to be. Yeah. So you got, you got, we got mom and two sons already great. When then the mom is a Julie Dreyfus. Come on now. Yeah. Come on now. And her two sons, which it's also, uh, you know, one of them played basketball at Northwestern, uh, which, uh, was huge for us. We were clearly rooting on, uh, this young man. While he was at Northwestern, and that was very exciting. I do want to say as well, we mentioned, meow in this episode. Yeah. I don't know if we ever are very clear about what it is. Great. But meow is the sound a cat makes. Also, it's the, uh, college improv troop. It's the Northwestern improv troop that Julia was a member of and both of us were members of, and we were there. Yeah. Um, and, uh, you know, we certainly talked to Northwestern, but, um, uh, Julian or husband, both Northwestern, yeah. And, uh, Charlie and our mom and dad, both Northwestern, a lot of Northwestern in this one. So if you, uh, if you went to University of Illinois, might not be for you. We don't really have a rival. I was trying to think of like what Northwestern's rival is. And we don't really have to. When you're not a juggernaut in sports, you don't really end up with. Yeah. It's when we play last every year. So I feel like that's the closest you can come. Yeah. Uh, do please enjoy it. Thanks for listening everybody. ... Really Josh and I are both hoping this will lead us to getting booked on your podcast, Julia. So just a wrap. Yeah, because you're both 70 year old women. It's actually hard to share. Hard. I love your podcast as a approaching 50 year old man. I feel like I have a lot to learn from these women as well. Well, you do, Josh. I do. I do. I mean, has that ever occurred to you? I got nothing to learn from them. Interesting, Henry. And you feel like because you already know it or because they're just spread lies, which one? You know, a little from Colin May, a little from Colin Bay. And Henry, did you write the song? Did you write the theme song to that? Yeah, yeah. I wrote all the music for it. Yeah. Recorded it with some, some mind. What is that process like, Julia, when you're getting a first drafts of music from your son? Do you guys have a good back and forth creatively as far as like notes? Well, I'd actually like Henry to answer that question. Do we? Uh, yeah. Honestly, yes, absolutely. You've good, you've good taste in the music, mom. Are you bullshitting right now? A little bit right now. No, no, no. I did my sarcastic bit about the, uh, wise old women. I don't think I'm going to double down. You, you spent that for, you knew you had one bullet. You just walked into the slune and just fired it into the ceiling. Yeah. Yeah. Just, just buckshot all over the podcast. Did you, as, were you a family, as a musician, were you a family that agreed on music when you were growing up? Henry. Uh, yes. My dad, luckily, uh, you guys showed me, they should, you know, my dad showed me like the Smiths and, you know, the generation, it's not like my parents were listening to like Benny Goodman and, um, the bell jolt. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, Benny Goodman is good, of course, but, but there's, but I remember she talks to a lot of very old women. Yeah. Right, right, right. Uh, but my dad was like, you know, check out the Smiths and check out Paul Simon and all this music that, um, is no matter what, you know, it's, it's evergreen. Was there like an artist that was like the family artist like for us, it would have been John Prime probably, yeah, was there a nice sort of, yeah, who were, who were your touchstones? Beatles without a doubt. Yeah, my dad is like, and, uh, you know, he knows as much about the Beatles as I do about the Simpsons, which is saying something. Right. And, um, I'm a big Simpsons fan. Uh, uh, yeah, Beatles, uh, like a lot of that, like North England's, uh, you know, early eighties, joy division, uh, Smith's, you know, factory, like music, stuff, Bonnie, Bonnie. Yeah. On my rate was the one person at the SNL 50th of my wife wanted to meet and, yeah, with good reason. And with good reason, and it was one of those, you know, don't meet your heroes and with, if it's Bonnie rate, go right ahead. Yeah. Without question. Yeah. Without question. I remember years and years gone, if you remember this Henry, we went to some sort of, uh, fundraiser, um, and Bonnie was sort of headlining it. And I, and Henry, you came. Mm hmm. And, uh, she played guitar for a long period of time and you, your job was on the ground. Do you kind of remember that or not really? I have to be honest. I don't remember that. So anyway, a huge influence in his life. I feel like that's, I mean, I would imagine, like due to the life your parents have left, you got a lot of incredible experiences that would have resonated with a lot of other kids that just went, you know, in one ear out the other. Mm hmm. Yeah. I hope so. I'm hope I, I hope I lack perspective. That's all I can really. I will say, I will say something that Henry, uh, uh, was, did a show, uh, in LA and one, a couple of the writers, um, from Veepe went to the show. One of whom was in Maxton Graham. Uh, I don't know if you guys know him. Famous Simpson writer as well. Exactly. And, uh, and he's actually a big fan of Henry's music and he came and, and, and met him that night. And then afterwards everybody was sort of hanging out and I go up to these guys and all they're doing is recounting Simpson episodes. To one another. It was the most extraordinary thing to witness. It was so, it's charming really because Ian was enjoying the conversation as much as you were, Henry, because you were just like reciting Simpson scenes back and forth to one another. Do you remember this? Absolutely. We were being completely anti-social. Yes. And, you know, saying, uh, whatever. I mean, my dream is to be at a party and, and sort of a young talented person just wants to talk about my work. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. We, um, it's funny, um, you mentioned the Beatles because famously, um, our dad doesn't like the Beatles, which is just an incredible position. Like, hold. Yeah. And, uh, I remember, uh, my best friend, uh, from college, Pete Gross, who was in Veepe, uh, and, uh, and I remember we did an improv show once my dad was there and he, he, my dad was underwhelmed. He's also a real straight talker and he sort of gave us the notes about how he was underwhelmed and, uh, and then my Pete goes, we do have to keep in mind. He also doesn't like the Beatles. Wow. That's awesome. That's an incredible safety net. Yeah. By the way, uh, I had the same experience. My dad did not like the Beatles. Is that true, Mom? I didn't know that. Yeah. Big Pop was always telling Brad that he was wrong and that the Beatles, uh, were not just bad, but awful. Yeah. Wow. He thought they were awful. Yeah. Did your dad also have, uh, some harsh notes about the Miao show? Um, yes. As a matter of fact, he had a harsh notes about the Miao show. He had a harsh notes about SNL. He had harsh notes about he had very pleasant notes for all the other people I was working with. Yeah. She's good. Yeah. She's got genius. That guy can, that guy knows what he's doing. Yeah. That kind of stuff. It was really, it was, um, it was very healthy. Yeah. Well, it's good. I mean, again, I, there's, there's a, I mean, I've always said like, my mom was the one who was supportive of everything we did no matter how bad. And then our dad only ever gave us credit for the very top tranche of work we did. And I do think it's nice to have one of each. I guess so. What I said, I mean, like, what does he like that you've done? Well, you know, it's early in my career. So yeah, this is why you're two, Seth. It's your two. Yeah. Yeah. He, um, I think he was happy as much like, uh, I think a lot of viewers. I think he was happy as when I found my way to the update desk. He was like, I, I have no more sweaty sketches for me, please. I'd like you just sitting in my place. He's like, I like what I could tell you reading stuff other people wrote. Oh, God. It's proof that he's not in the week. He's very in the right, uh, for the right thing. Yeah. Right. Um, I mean, we do, Charlie is going to grace us with his presence. I believe. But, uh, well, so we'll get to some family trips that include all of you. Before he does, Julia, what were your family trips growing up? Where would you guys go? Where, where did you grow up first and then where would you go? Well, I grew up in, uh, New York City and Washington, DC both. Yeah. And, uh, we primarily, uh, went to Baltimore. Yeah. We primarily went to ski resorts in the humid month of August. Uh, uh, on, on the east coast. This, this is what I remember. Yeah. No, please. And then my, and then my parents, this is my mom and my stepdad. They, uh, uh, put together a really big trip for us to take, uh, when I was 18 and with my two younger sisters and we went to Scotland. And it rained the entire time. We were there. And, uh, my sister who was nine at the time, my little sister, Lauren, she refused to eat anything because, you know, it was like scotch eggs and haggis and everything freaked her out. So by the end of the trip, she, um, looked like she needed to be hospitalized because she was so, uh, gone. The only thing we could get her to eat were those, um, ice creams, those Cadbury, vanilla ice creams with the chocolate stick coming out of it that they do in Europe. So she ate a lot of those, um, but that was kind of it. Um, yeah. Yeah. That's the, the sweaty ski mountains that you would go to. What, uh, what were the act that were you there to hike or just to enjoy? Um, well, not to try not to get bitten by mosquitoes. Yeah. That was one activity. And, uh, another activity was just trying to find boys, which I never seemed to find. Well, they were, did they ever tell you they're here in the winter? You should try in the winter. There was nobody. And I remember watching Sunion Share in a rental cabin. I remember watching a Sunion Share show. And that was really fun. That part of it. Well, it's good to have highlights. Yeah. Uh, we, I will say, you know, and again, I'm sure it's been, but the Scottish, the scots are not known for their cuisine. And hopefully they, they will not take offense. Well, I'm sure they have taken offense FYI. Um, I think this, I've been to Scotland subsequently and they've up to their cuisine game without question. I once, the dumbest thing I ever did at a charity auction was I, uh, was the first bitter on a week at a Scottish castle. And I had been, uh, I was a little, I had had a couple of drinks and was feeling a little frisky and raised my paddle kind of, and it was a real high starting bid. But I assumed like in this, you know, this room full of Tony people, but it felt like it was a trap bid because as soon as I raised my paddle, they were like, going, what's going to my soul? Like I was like, oh, no. And Josh was with us. We went to the castle. And how to go? It was, uh, a lot of Scottish castles that turns out upkeep hasn't been a big part of it. Yeah. That's not a priority. I would say it was very, it was a breezy castle. And, but I remember the first meal, I, it felt like the chef at the castle was maybe 17 years old. And they rolled up cold cuts. It was like a thing of turkey and a thing of cheese and a thing of ham and they rolled it into little like tubes. Oh, that sounds clever. Yeah. It was, uh, Alexi was, uh, early pregnant with our first and she still, this day says it's the worst trip of her life. Awesome. Awesome. We did some cool stuff, but there, like, there was, there were chicken breasts that were, uh, like, the breading was corn flakes, um, like, cereal flakes. Yeah. Um, so yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't the best food on that trip. Yeah. Um, did you, uh, did you know your, uh, uh, grandfather, well, Henry, you seem surprised that he didn't know the Beatles. Was he a part of your life growing up? He, he was a part of my life that, that detail was left out about liking the Beatles. Um, but he liked other stuff. He liked the New York Jets. Did you have a, where, where grandparents, a big part of trips for you guys growing up? Um, we, let's see. Yeah, kind of, we, we did a lot of nuclear family, um, trips, though, I would say, not a lot of, yeah, yeah. I mean, we would go to visit grandparents. That's right. I mean, in other words, but we wouldn't go, uh, well, with the exception of going to Wyoming when you were younger, uh, we wouldn't really go, uh, on trips with them. It was, we, we went to Thanksgiving a few times in DC and, um, stuff like that. Yeah, right. The class, classically had our, had our, uh, most chaotic, worst Thanksgiving in Washington, DC with a, well, please, well, and what happened. Going to the sea. Yeah, sure. It's his disease and indeed. Yeah. Um, we, um, we all, uh, you know, congregate in DC for Thanksgiving and, um, we're all cooking and everything. The, a plague, uh, descends upon the entire family. Everyone is deathly ill, the entire time really, really sick. Um, then on top of that, every dish is ruined in some way. The gravy is like gelatinous. It looks like a volcano. One of those volcanoes, like six minutes. It's, you know, the weather's really bad. Everything, everything. Wait, and I have to interject. There was one moment in which your cousin, uh, who was like three at the time she had gotten particularly ill and, uh, violent diarrhea and vomiting. And she, I just remember she had had a terrible accident and her dad, your uncle, uh, was carrying her like with her arms out like this and telling her to keep her arms straight and not move while he carried her under the armpits sort of across the room because she just had some explosion happen and he was telling her not to move. And we're trying to try to put together this family meal as this, this sort of, uh, like time, it felt like a bomb had gone on. Yeah. And he's taking her across the room and she's like this to terrified. Anyway, carry on. Yeah. My dad still does that to me to this side. There's a lot of them. It's like stuck in doorways though. Yeah. You just go to, no, you just go outside. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got to take your losses, honestly. Otherwise, it's a really good thing to do. You know what? Doesn't work. I found with my three young children anytime you tell them, don't move. You know, it's like, it just, it immediately, it feels though. That's a trap. Yeah. We, we always refer to our family as a core four, which is what you guys are. Same thing. Two boys. And, uh, and, uh, that's Josh and I, our family. But we took a lot of vacations, just the four of us. And we would, the same thing. Like, we would visit, uh, grandparents, but mercifully never had them like on an airplane with us. Uh-huh. Which I think is a, as a way better life to live. We definitely didn't do that. But it's funny. You say that about all boys because, um, when the kids were little, we took them to, uh, Tanzania. And we were, uh, on safari. And we got there and I'm going to say Charlie was seven maybe. So that, and Henry was 12. And our, the, I was, I was like 16 and Charlie was 12. Okay. Sorry. So, and so we get there 16 and 12. And the leader of our group says, starts to say sort of the rules of camp because it wasn't like, uh, it wasn't like we were staying in a resort. We were staying in tents out in the bush, you know? And, uh, he says, okay, now the first rule of camp is no running. And I remember thinking, oh my God, this was a huge mistake. I have two boys who are being told not to run because they are prey here and prey. And, uh, that was, we got sick on that trip too, him. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody got really sick on that trip too. Yeah. Is this just coincidence that it's the first two or are you just kind of very sickly as a family? We carry around a plague wherever we go. Yeah. We try to. I mean, nothing's worse than the moment where the first one gets sick and you know it's coming for everyone. Everyone. Yeah. That's true. God is that the truth. Yeah. You got no choice. So what about, did you guys ever, I mean, imagine, look, you are, uh, your family, you live in Los Angeles. Did you ever, were you ever in a road trip, the four of you? Did you guys ever drive anywhere? We drove to Yosemite once. Yeah. We drove to Yosemite. We didn't take long, long car rides. Yeah. How about that for an answer? No, but Yosemite is a drive. Yosemite is a drive. Yeah. Yeah. We actually, we stayed, um, we stayed at the, um, the place where the, the hotel where the shining is like that the, the, the set of the shining is sort of based off of, didn't wait. Are we visited there? Something like that. It was spooky. It was that in, is that an Estus Park in Colorado or is that in where Yosemite is? No, Henry, you're, the second I said that I realized that's not true. I mean, that's made up what I said. It's made up, but it looks like it. It was the, it was that fans, it was that Awani hotel. Yes. I think at this point, there's a chance though your parents just lied to you on that drive. And now you're, you're having like a seated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My parents lied to me a lot. So where you, uh, that's it. You have a bit of an age gap with Charlie. Were you guys close growing up? Uh, yes. We, uh, we were close. We're very close now. I thought you were going to say we were and now it's, yeah. There's a reason. Let's just say there's a reason he's late to the park. Yeah. He's waiting for you to log off. Um, no, I, yeah, we, five years, you know, when, when I was like, what, 15 and he was 10, that was not, I did not like him very much. Yeah. Did he want to be just all up in your business? Uh, no, he was honestly completely fine. I was just, I just unloaded all of my, uh, anything, you know, he, he was the, my, my punching bag metaphorically. Well, and in fact, and, and in real too. Yeah. Yeah. When you were a little younger than that, you used to play a game called lighthouse college. Yeah. And they would, um, both be going to a lighthouse college. And usually Henry was the wrestling coach. Yeah. I was a wrestling coach and I, and I was a, really, I was a nasty professor too. Oh, wow. If Charlie was, if Charlie wasn't paying a national, I would throw, throw books at him. Yeah. Or you would beat him up and wrestle him as the coach. And that was essentially lighthouse college. Yeah. You know, lighthouse is the funding at lighthouse college. Really. Then you just show, yeah, most of the professors had two drops. By the way, that's really speaks to one of the showbiz family. Our most kids just wrestle and you guys built this like the world building. The wind. Yeah. We just light us college. They don't have a lot of money. Yeah. Here's the elevator pitch. The wrestling coach probably has failed at previous schools. This is his last stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's working for scale. And then you just, then you just wail on each other like any kids, but yeah, yeah. Did you, uh, were there years where you and Brad were aware, Julie, of like, oh my god, the strain, uh, that Charlie is causing Henry with, uh, just being like younger and, uh, irritating or er, or just like, yeah. What? Yeah. I'm sure of the trauma you inflicted on him. Yes. Exactly. By having a second child. Uh, yeah, we should, I mean, to be honest, we shouldn't have had Charlie. It was a big thing. Uh, finally, someone says it. Jesus. Finally. Have you guys, uh, as you've gotten older, uh, do you still go on family trips, uh, the four of you together or has life gotten to fast? Yeah. Well, actually, I, we, I don't know if this, I got back less than 24 hours ago from Indonesia with my, my dad and I went there together on a circle. So I'm, this is me. Uh, I'm, I'm running on fumes. What brought, uh, what was the, uh, the impetus for you and your dad taking a two-man trip to Indonesia? Good question. Uh, we, uh, are surfers. So, so my whole life, yeah, yeah, and Indonesia's sort of the number one destination for surf in the whole world. So, um, this is, this is our second time. It aggressive surfing, like how big are these waves? How good does one have to be to go where you went? Uh, yeah. I would say, uh, sort of like back, uh, going, being able to go in the back country skiing is that's, that's a sort of similar, that's a comparison. People, uh, you're going to run into a lot of people though who, uh, shouldn't be out there though. Yeah. Uh, unfortunately, it's become very, very crowded and, and stuff. Uh, well, I, I'm going to interject and say Henry is, um, being humble. He's a very good surfer and, and he competed when he was younger and, um, so, um, that's me. It's probably just family. My mom is also my publicist and momager. Now that we've done that though, how good is Brad really? Bad can't surf. He rips. He's one of the people that, uh, Henry was politely saying probably shouldn't be out there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did, uh, uh, how old were you when you started surfing? Was that something that happened, uh, out of like a vacation or just from, uh, being a Westcoaster? That's, uh, from my dad being from Santa Barbara. Got it. I would say, yeah, he pushed me into a wave for the first time when I was four, four years old. Yeah. So it's in the blood. It's such a bummer when you hear like your kids are already older than, like when it starts for like really good surfers. I mean, I'm sure they could pick it up now. It's, of course, you start that young. And then was it something where you, would you ever take trips built around the fact that you and your dad wanted to surf? Absolutely. Multiple times. Did we, uh, forego the comfort of my brother and mom in order to get a good wave somewhere? Hey, prime members. Did you know you can listen to Wiser than me ad-free on Amazon music? Download the Amazon music app today to start listening ad-free. If you're like the Wise Women on this podcast, you're really, really busy. That's why my dear makes appliances that handle things while you move on with your life, like the one touch auto-fill French door fridge with a water dispenser that fills your cup perfectly. So you don't have to sit there and supervise water. 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So they have that excursion for the most part on their own. Well, I've been to a few places with you guys and then, you know, I think. We went to Peru. Oh, look who it is. Yeah. We're at the beach drawing. Hi, honey. Hello. Hopefully you guys were in a conversational flow that I've ruined. Yeah, you're actually, you've checked up just the time. These guys were both kind of running on a steam. Yeah. Perfect. They tend to do that. Wait, we were talking a lot of time. Are you not a surfer then, Charlie? We're talking about a surfer. I used to be kind of a surfer sort of, but no, Henry's the surfer. Did you, from the very beginning, did you kind of know like I this, I can do this, but I don't really love it the way my dad and my brother love it? Yes. I was, I'm like too tall for surfing. Yeah. And also, isn't that sort of an expression as Charlie don't surf? Yeah, Charlie don't surf. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I'm just like too handsome. I like too tall and handsome and strong. I just think my center of gravity is too high. I'll just, it is. I'll say this too about Charlie. Charlie is highly competitive and to the point where he'll hedge his bets on something. So I think he at a young age saw that my dad and I just inherently had, you know, X amount of years of experience surfing over him and he was like, okay, he like did the math in his tiny brain. Yeah. And he went basketball. Yeah. I'm going to play basketball instead of. I do. Your dad is famously tall, Charlie. I feel like, and he, yeah, he's managed to figure out surfing. That is just not to, not to undercut your defense. Yeah. Now I feel like an idiot. But yeah, there's also a rigum of role to surfing. Like you got to, you know, you have to like changing and out of things. You have to bring a lot of stuff. Like sandy, there's like things about it that I don't totally. I mean, that's the way I feel about skiing, which Josh and my dad love. And I was, again, it was just the gear. It's impressive. It's not really. Yeah. There's a lot of it. Yeah. Wait a minute, Seth, you don't ski? I do ski, but I just don't like it. And I will say like now that my boys ski and my daughter, like we, they ski every week in the winter, we take them to like a little sort of shitty East Coast mountain and Connecticut. And I love being on the mountain with my kids. But like when I was younger, Josh and my dad would take ski trips and I would always be like, I think I'm good. Or we would go out and then it would get cold and Seth and my mom would be like, we're going to go to the lodge and we're going to tap out. Yeah. Got it. And this Peru trip was, were you on that as well, Charlie? Did you go to Peru? I absolutely was. And so you and your mother would go off and do something else I'm assuming or would, Julie, would you sort of kick him into some kids camp and then you'd just give him to whatever babysitter I could find. I'm trying to say, I mean, we did sort of, it was a real sort of, oh, that's right. We went to, we did, we did the standard, you know, looking at Machu Picchu and stuff like that. But then we did take the guys and we went into the rainforest. And that was miserable if I could be so bold and as to say it. I mean, this was right before Brad and Henry were going to go off surfing and we were in the rainforest and we were getting, once again, getting out of the water, the boat to sort of go to this echolodge in the middle of the rainforest. But you had to walk in the water, aways. And this was, yeah, this was the river where they have those fish or something that can swim up your urethra. Oh, yeah, those, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know those fish. Yeah, every, every guy knows about those fish as soon as you learn about them, you never get fish. Those are real fish. Those are real. And I just remember being panicked with the boys and just saying, you know, keep, keep your crotch out of the water. By the way, though, that you were saying that the, you know, don't run thing was, you know, that's not a deterrent for little kids. Right. Uh, don't put your crotch in the water because a little fish will swim up your penis. That's, that actually worked. Yeah. Yeah. That was a straight up deterrent. Yeah. But then we had this experience where I was really freaked out because there was stuff in the, in the forest there that was lethal like snakes and a kind, a certain kind of snake that if you got bit, it would kill you instantly sort of a thing. And I, and they had a really big tarantulas and stuff all over this place. And Brad and I was like the night before we were headed out in there and we were walking back to our room where we were staying and it was dark. And I felt something sort of go on me and I sort of went, oh, like that. And he knew that I really didn't like it there. And I said, geez, that was awful. And he goes, it's okay. It's okay. We're leaving tomorrow. Don't worry about it. I'm like, okay, fine, whatever. And we get into the room and we go into the bathroom and we're brushing our teeth and Brad sort of bends over the sink. And there is a tarantula on his back. This big. It's called a pink toad tarantula. Have your listeners look it up. You'll see. And I screamed, oh my God, there's a tarantula on your back. And without, within a nanosecond, Brad took his t-shirt and just went, and ripped it apart and the tarantula went flying across the room. And it was a pink toad tarantula and it was big. It was a male pink toad tarantula. And we found out later that they're usually very docile, but if a pink toad tarantula does bite you, it can cause impotence. Wow. Yes. Yes. A lot of private parts. A lot of dick stuff. A lot of dick stuff. A lot of dick stuff. I'm married to a man. I've got two sons. That's for real. The bummer is that was, if it had happened because the most turned on, you ever were, it was when you ripped a shirt off. And then if that, at the same moment, he'd become impotent. What a bummer that would have been. Yeah, totally. The irony. The irony is thick. And it could have been an absolutely rambunctious evening of a closer ears, boys. Sexual satisfaction, but it was not. We, I, we were in Costa Rica with my boys and there was just this line of, like, the reddest ants you've ever seen, carrying, like, leaves, like, the, like, from a, animated film, like watching these ants work together. And we were just leaning down so close watching them. And it was just this beautiful moment in nature. And then the guy came over and was like, those are fire ants. If they bite you and basically was like, God, what is the point of being out here? This is an evocation. Yeah, I hear that. I don't disagree with that. Did you ever have either of the hallboys who are on this ever gone on a vacation with just your mother, just the two of you? We surprised her for Mother's Day. Yeah, that's what, that's where my brain went to. Yeah. Where did you take her? We went to a restaurant where we were, yeah, we were in New York. Okay. Well, wait a minute. Hold on. I was in New York by myself working. Okay. Yeah. And, and it was late at night. And I'm, I'm in, I'm all by myself. I'm in the bedroom. I'm watching a movie. And I, watching it and office at the kid in the movie sounds so much like my son. I feel like I, I heard this kid go, Mom, Mom, like that, like that, that kid sounds like Charlie. Yeah. I didn't want to scare, I can't, my flight got to, I was supposed to get in earlier and my flight got delayed. So I ended up getting in at like midnight to New York. And I was so terrified that I was going to scare you in the, and so I was yelling, Mom, mom, I don't want to scare you. And it was close. And I was yelling outside for literally no exaggeration like five minutes. And you didn't, you couldn't hear me. I couldn't hear it. And I could have opened the door because I thought I'd like give you a heart attack. Well, you did give me a heart attack by the way. Yeah. I took you guys to Portland once to see a basketball game. Oh my God, of course. That's the number one. Excuse me. That's the number one. And just the three of you? Mm-hmm. Just the three of us. And one, two, one. And was this an interesting time to go to a basketball game in Portland? You seem to know. Well, a specific memory of it. Yeah, we, there's this guy, he's sort of like in and out of the G league, who we got to meet this LeBron something. What's his last name, bro? James. Is it James but spelled with a G? Yeah, yeah, that's it. That one. Yeah. We got to go to Portland and we see at Miami, this is, this was in the Miami heat days. Wow. And so you lived in LA. So there obviously, you famously have a couple of basketball teams. Was it special to go to Portland and see LeBron play? My mom's best friend is, works for Nike. Yeah. So we had a whole Nike thing set up for us, which was unbelievably special. How old were you when this was happening? Were you, was this like peak age to go to a sporting event? Yes. Any age is peak age for us to go to a sporting event. Or also, like I would die for LeBron. My Charlie's the biggest. Absolutely no hesitation. Take a bullet like truly. And so doing that was incredibly special. And it ended up being an amazing game. Chris Bosch had essentially been a buzzer beater. Yeah. Did you meet LeBron? Yes. But we almost didn't because I was so scared. He's so, I love LeBron in a way that's certainly unhealthy. No question about it. And as a result, like I, the moment was like too big for me. I don't know how old I was, but I was too anxious and I was almost pulled the plug on the whole operation. I was like, I don't think I can do this. But we, but thankfully, I think actually dad talked sort of, we called dad, right? Yeah, I called dad. He called dad. He called me. Yeah. He called me to talk about, you kind of go meet him. And they were inviting us to go to dinner with a bunch of the players, but it was late, you know? Right. And I didn't know, well, should I take the boys and what's going on? And we called dad and he said, Brad and he said, oh, who cares what time it is go? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like you, uh, comported yourself when well when the moment came? It's a good question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I mean, I was enough to like, you know, words came out of my mouth. I was like, hi, nice to meet you. So that's a way. Right. You didn't know how old you were. You didn't worry you? I don't. It was, it was, you guys were teenagers. Yeah. I think I was maybe in middle school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was in college. You were a Henry. Pretty sure. I remember we, we, I wasn't sitting next to LeBron. Once we got there and I was, I was actually really relieved at that fact. Like, I was, I know you were, but you can handle it. I can't hit like this is, you know, I couldn't handle it. It is like meeting God. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And at that point, right, it's fully, he's sorry. We're, by the way, just quickly we're, we're saying LeBron, we were talking about LeBron James. Yeah. Yes. King James. I just took my dad from Pittsburgh, a huge Taylor fans. I just took my nine and seven year old to their first Steelers game. Oh, that's awesome. It was the best, it was such a fantastic weekend. Josh was there as well. And we met some of the players, but they have, they're not at the place. I think it was easier for them because they're not huge fans. Like they haven't built up a fandom that you had for LeBron at the time. So they were just meeting larger people than they were used to. There is a, there's an Northwestern Wildcat on the Steelers. Yeah. Brett Scoronic. That's exactly right. Yeah. What do you mean? Oh, great. Yeah, I love them. Yeah. I apparently he reps Notre Dame, but we said we still come up. Yes. Yeah. 100% Yeah. I will say, if not, it did nothing to do with me and my children, but Julia, you and yours. I remember going and seeing you, Julia, was it 2016 when you guys beat Texas in at the Barclays Center? Yep. 2016. Jair Allen was on that team. That was a good, that was a great game. Yeah. That was fantastic. And also like it happened for me when I was in college when football wasn't good and then all of a sudden they were good. Like my friend and I went to that game just because, oh my god, well, how can you miss Northwestern when they're in New York? Didn't go with a lot of expectation that Northwestern would win. It was so exciting. And that ability, it was so, we were so happy. And then the extra, that was the extra bonus of them. We actually ran into you guys. So fun. That's a thing about coming from like a kind of, you know, historically losing program. Is it feels a lot better when you win? And was that the, that was the first tournament? Yeah, I was the tournament here. And that game, that Texas game ended up kind of being the game where we realized that we were like actually good. We had our suspicions like, you know, over the summer, I was like, huh, we, I think our players are good. And then we beat Texas and we were like, oh, wow. We are in Brian. We can do this. Brian McIntosh had an amazing game that, like, yeah. You sure? I think Scotty played really well too. Yeah. I had a, that year Josh went to Salt Lake. Yeah. Thanks. For the first round. And I, well, I had a very young, I think my, uh, Alex was pregnant with our second and Ash was two. And it was just one of those things where like I couldn't make the argument why I had to like leave and go to Utah. But then I was like, so grumpy, like in a petulant childish way. And she was like, what's wrong with you? I'm like, everyone I know is in Salt Lake today. Never happens. She's like, oh, she was like, no, she's like, oh my God, grow up. But also like we didn't, you didn't know where your team was going to play when tickets went on sale. Right. And Seth had bought like a block of tickets to, in like North Carolina, which is, you know, where, where some of the games were. And they were great games that he ended up having tickets for. And then Northwestern won their first game. And Seth sold those tickets in North Carolina. And then for the four guys that were in Salt Lake, he's like, I'm going to buy you guys tickets for the next game, which was a great sort of turnover. And I'm assuming you were there. Julie, if you went out for that, you betcha. Yeah. Yeah. It's been so much such an exciting time. Oh, it was unbelievable. I just, I'll never forget that goal tending. Oh, I know. And then the coach get thrown, you know, and yeah, rightfully so he was furious for good, for good cause. How do you miss that? Oh, sure. Yeah. There was a, there was a goal tend through through the rim. Yeah. And by the way, you got skinzac and, right? Yeah. Charlie, wasn't it true that after the fact that the National Ref Association made some comment about it was, yeah, they issued a, they do a thing where they, in the final X minutes of every game, they go through the calls. And then if there's any, if there's any errors, they like, they release a, you know, a team of the, of the errors and that it was, they released it as an error. And I think even like the NCA, like issued an apology or something. And then you get, uh, your team gets ref bucks that you, that you can expand it. I'll let you out. Yeah. But then in the case sessions. I'm still living off the merchant. Yeah. So I pay my rent. What will you guys, uh, will you all be together for Thanksgiving? Oh, yeah. It's fantastic. Is that historically every year? Has there been an exception where you don't have the whole family together for any reason? No, we've always, we've had weird things giving us a lot. Or we're not in, in, in at home because for me, when I was playing basketball, we always had to, uh, they always had to come to me because I didn't get it off. And then we also went to, when Henry was shooting his show in London, we went to, we had thanksgiving in London. Oh, yeah. That's it. Are we, Josh and I used to live in Amsterdam and my parents would come over there for Thanksgiving. And I think Thanksgiving in a foreign country that doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving is outstanding. Yeah, it's cool. It's outstanding. It's just an opportunity for a great meal elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then you also have nothing, nothing's closed. So you like go out in the city is like, still like a cool city. Mm-hmm. Completely. Yeah. Do you, when you do Thanksgiving at home, do you have other people over? Or is it ever just the four of you? No, when it's, when it's at home, we have extended family and friends, which is what we're having this year. How big can it get? Uh, I remember one year. It was 24 people. Gotcha. Does it get out of hand? I remember. That's too much. Yeah, remember we had a table outside and we had a table inside and we had, and we used the round table for granny and, and, and, because remember and then we, and then everybody, we did, moving of seats, rotating around. We had a, we had a, we had a story to do. That was too much. I just wanted to picture granny alone at a very small round table. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was more of a godfather situation like each person would go off and have their conversation with grandma. Is this your side, granny or Bradside granny? Bradside granny who's still alive, she's 97. Gotcha. And, um, she has, uh, uh, pretty acute dementia. I think this year she will not be joining us. However, uh, she's been joining us at, I mean, she's with us every holiday in some form or another. Yeah. This year we're going to bring her some stuff. But, um, yeah, this year it's not quite as many. I think we're about 13 this year, which is much more manageable. 20 years is insane. 20 years is, is too many. It's to believe me. I, you know, to be honest with you guys and these guys, my boys know this. I don't, I'm not a huge fan of Thanksgiving. Just not. Yeah. Okay. I think I'm giving right. Um, I just, I think she's ungrateful. I am ungrateful. And I'll tell you why I'm grateful. You say it as he said, maybe if I ever have something to be thankful for, I'll get this. I'll understand what I'm doing. I can't say that. I'm still waiting. Tick tock world. Mm hmm. I, I gotta, uh, I, it's my favorite, it's my favorite holiday before and I was, I, saying to Alexia, I'm like, why is my wife like, why don't you get more excited? She's like, because I do everything. Thank you. She goes, you love Thanksgiving because you like would go and sit on the couch and like watch football while your mom cooked. And now I'm the mom. And it's not a good holiday. It's an enormous amount of work for what is probably about a 15 to 20 minute meal. Yeah. And it's days and days of cooking and, you know, you can, you know, and then, but anyway, whatever, I'm still happy everybody's coming. Cause I like, I am actually, cause I like all the shit beforehand. Yeah. And once the meals here, it's like, whatever. Does anyone, does anyone go too hard at Thanksgiving? Does anyone like really tie one on? We sort of, we famously had a bunch of neighbors over and some family one time and set up tables and like, there were, there was, there was way too much wine being drunk and some of it by a gal who certainly was not of age yet, but was finding some, some half drunk glasses that she was polishing off, but which adds an element of excitement to holiday. Yeah. I don't think I have anybody misbehaved, you guys. Not really. I mean, well, the, the, the end of the, everyone being sick story that one Thanksgiving was we, everyone's sick. Everything's going terribly. All the food is getting messed up and everything. And then the one thing that made it through all that vitriol was a pumpkin pie. It came out perfect, like that perfect. Comes out steaming, you know, just the most delicious, delectable looking pumpkin pie you've ever seen in your life gets put on the counter. And my little cousin comes over to it and he goes, oh man, that looks good. Oh, you see, he's all over the pie snuck on the pie. So that was the end of that. You've never seen adults more mad at like a six year old. They say booing. Yeah. Who's in the sand? Do you remember the first time vacation or at home, like the first time you had drinks with both of your sons, Julia, because obviously, you had me in the start, but like the moment where you're like, we are now a family where the children, like, you know, are old enough to also have wine at the table. Go. Do you remember the first time you got drunk with me? Yeah. You immediately, I remember your tone immediately went back to your tone of during day drinking. I do remember that. That was insane. I always tell this story because it's like such a perfect Julia story that, because I say it to every time we do day drinking, I always say to the guests, I'm like, Hey, just FYI, like you don't have to drink anything. You don't want to drink. We can switch to water. And you're the only one and you went, Yeah, I know. Like we have to like have to drink. I'm not trying to prove anything to you. I remember when I was in college once, Oh, doing like me hour, whatever. There was some improv night. And before that night, we had gone out and gotten drinks and I had a gin and tonic. And I remember then getting on stage and realizing, Oh, my God. I mean, I wasn't like drunk, but I felt it. And it was this terrifying feeling. And I stood at the back of the stage and did not contribute because I was terrified of, you know, it just felt like such a... It was so risky. And so when I did your show, I can't believe you do that show. I can't. Yeah, we only do it twice here. We are very aware there's a tipping point where our audience collectively says, Sir, you're 51. You have children, Sir, you have children at home. No, do it more. That's when I love the day drinking show. Please do more. Oh, it's so funny. Not too enabled. I mean, it never, it never doesn't work. But it is, you know, there's a medical cost. There is a medical cost. You know, there's one vacation story that I have to tell you guys about with these boys that is in part of our family history. And it was around New Year's, the Y2K year. So that would have made Charlie, Three, and Henry eight. And is that right, guys? No. No, that's a good math. No, two and seven because it would have been 1999 going into 2000. Wow, my mind's dying over here. Good math. Thanks, honey. So anyway, I don't know if people remember, but that year there was all of this, like, you got to do something. It's New Year's. We're going into this whole new, the into 2000. It's going to be unbelievable. And so we opted sort of to not do a whole hell of a loo that for New Year's. And we went, we were skiing and some friends had invited us over to their house for New Year's party. And we decided because of the importance of this particular date, we were going to bring the boys and let them stay up late. And so we got to their house and we're having a nice time. And it gets to be about 11 o'clock. And it's become quite evident that each of the boys has got to go to bed. If it is way too late for a two year old and a seven year old to be up. So I say to Brad, we got to get out of here. I know staying up till midnight, we just can't do it. It's ridiculous. So Henry was disappointed. We put him into the car, but the kids are wigged. Okay, wigged, tired, wigged out. We put him both into the car, Charlie's in the car seat. We're driving back to this hotel. There's a snowing like crazy and it's dark. And Henry says to Brad, daddy, do you believe in the abominable snowman? Understand everybody's tired. And Brad says, no, I don't, honey. Anyone who just believe in the abominable snowman is crazy. And Henry goes, don't, well, I believe in the abominable snowman, daddy. And that means you think I'm crazy. I'm going to kill you. He's got screaming. At which point Charlie in the car seat starts to scream hysterically, don't kill my daddy and they are going, but I mean screaming like he really thought his seven year old brother was going to kill his own father. And they are screaming hysterically and it is the worst New Year's of our life. And I become, it is so outrageous that I become hysterical laughing and then the kids see me laughing and they get more crying and Brad is like, jewell, shut up, shut up. Anyway, that was our, that was New Year's. Hey, it's Hussaminhaj here from the Hussaminhaj doesn't know podcast among other things. And I hate the smell of rotting food almost as much as I hate wasting it in the first place. Thankfully now I have Mill. Mill is a food recycler that is odorless, guiltless and completely effortless. See, I've always wanted to reduce my food waste. 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We've been in Seth's wife from New Mexico and there are some casinos nearby and they celebrate New Year's Eve at noon and if you're in the casino at noon they like pass out champagne and there's a hole to do and so we've definitely popped down for New Year's Eve. It's really cool because then the cool thing is the rest of the day you smell like cigarettes. Perfect. And boo. There's still smoking in there. Just. Yeah, you don't want to be in an albacurking casino on New Year's Eve. I'm just going to say. You don't? Huh. I know I'm shocking. This has been so lovely to talk to you guys. But we do. Before you go, Josh is going to ask you all our speed round questions and you all have to answer every question. Also, before you do, I'm taking a family photo. Everybody smells. Yes. Take it with your phone. I am, honey. Okay. Good. I'm just asking because you guys are straight talkers. Tackier cool that I'm wearing a sweatshirt from my own show. Super. Honestly cool. Okay. I don't love it. All right. You know, when I was seven years old and we were in, we were in Rome staying at some hotel and Ed Sullivan was staying there at the same time and didn't he come down to the pool wearing a hat that said Ed Sullivan. Oh, I wouldn't do in public. I wouldn't do in public. But still. We're in public right now. It's true. It's on Zoom for the thing that's being taped to put out into the world. You got me dead to rights. It's in public. I mean, Ed Sullivan or the same. I won't name names, but I saw it on, on Abbott, Kenny and L.A. I saw an NBA player one time, wingering a shirt with his face on it. Wow. Which I thought was a super interesting choice. Kind of actually, I kind of loved it. I kind of love it too, but can't you tell us who it was? No, I don't want it. I don't know why, but I don't want it. Yeah. All right. I'm scared. Just tell us who was on the shirt. Yeah. So Russell. I love Russell. I love Russell. I was once at a party with someone related to Ernest Hemingway somehow. And we're all chatting and someone's talking to going through something in their lives, you know, ex-doling some issue they were having. And this person who was related to Ernest Hemingway goes, oh, wow. That's, you know, you should check out this book. It's called The Sun Also Rises. That's awesome. Yeah. I've already said that she was related to, she was like recommending her, you know, whatever he was like right now. Grandfather's book or something. Great uncle's book. Yeah. Like, yeah, no, we know this on also right. Yeah. I'm not as well as me because I'm related to him, but yeah. Yeah. Anyway. All right. All right. Here we go. Speed round. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Relax. Relaxious. Adventurous for me too. Relax. Relax. What is your favorite means of transportation? Car. What? Feet. Feet. Oh, yeah, feet. Feet. I changed mine to feet. Great call, mom. Gotcha. Okay. Thanks, honey. If you could take a vacation with any family alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Coach Taylor Friday night lights his perfect answer. Nice try. Oh. Henry, I know who you're going to say. Yeah, I think I do too. What? The Hemingways. The Siemens. The Siemens. The Siemens. Yeah. Maybe? I don't know. Your answer. The Griffins. The Griffins. All's ag. Oh, wait. Family guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm going to say the Simpsons. Okay. I agree. Nightmare vacation, but okay. I know. I'm just trying to be clever. All right. This one could get, could get sticky with three family members here. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? No offense, mom. I'm going, Henry. Henry? Yeah. I'm going, Charlie, mom. Sorry. Yeah. You know what I'm going with? My sister mourned. So fuck you guys. All right. All right. Julie, you're from New York City. If you had to pitch New York City to get more families to come visit, how would you do it? Central Park. Yeah. There's something there for everyone. True. And then boys, you're both LA. You're both from Los Angeles. If you had to pitch Los Angeles to get more families to come visit, how would you do it? Henry first. Okay. I would say the Ripley's Believer or not last season. Yeah. We have that. All right. Charlie, can you beat that? My zoom cut out for a second, but I would say Ripley's Believer or not. Good choice. Yeah. Good choice, Tom. What was your answer, Henry? You and I was actually Ripley's Believer or not last season. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, can you believe it? When is the last time either of you has been to the Ripley's Believer or not museum? We went this morning. We went this morning. You guys got to write back from Indonesia. You were like, I got to get it. I got to get it. I got to get it. I got to get it. We actually do have to get out. We have a hard out because we're going back. Yeah. You guys are the norm Peterson of Ripley's Believer and not. Hey, Charlie. And then Seth has our final question. Have you guys been to the Grand Canyon? Yes, we have. Was it worth it? Yes. Yeah. That was one of we. Yeah, we went. That was probably that's a that's a top tier top three probably family trip ever for us. Was we did we did river rafting down the Grand Canyon. And it was how many was it a multiple day trip? Yeah. We were two weeks a week. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. Fantastic. We did the top half the canyon and or the river. And it's a trip that we would want to go back to by the way. All right. Very resounding resounding support. Can I redo my pitch for New York? Yeah, please. I'm sure. Ripley's Believer or not wax museum New York? What? No, there isn't one there. Otherwise, of course, I would use it. Yeah. There is less dog shit now than there was when I was little. I think that's a selling point. Yeah. Yeah. That's why once I once had David Bern on the show and I was like, tell me about like, is New York in like the late 70s, early 80s as cool as I wanted to be? And the one thing he said he said it was awesome, but it smelled. There was so much dog shit. Oh. Well, can you believe that people didn't pick up their dog shit? It's crazy. I can't believe anytime it ever happens. And it happens around where I live all the time. And my wife just like is furious and wants to set up cameras everywhere. And I'm not I'm kind of with her. Yeah. Sort of appalling. But I mean, it's sort of it's kind of like people smoking and then just throwing their silver up butts on the ground. That I like. Oh, you do. Yeah. I like when they can throw it with their aims good enough they can make it land in the dog shit. Yep. Like way sticks up so the flames go so their smoke's coming out. Yeah. So it looks like a cupcake with a birthday candle. Oh. That's what the kids it's a team thing. It's called cupcake and where you try to throw a lit cigarette into a dog shit. And then with my cousin sneeze on it too. I know a cousin who could give a good sneeze to that cupcake. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you guys. Check out season four of Wiser than me and gentlemen it was great to see you both. This was just wonderful. Thank you guys. It was really fun to toss you. So open edits together good. Oh, yeah. It was just there's no edits. No edits. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. All right. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. Go cats. 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