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The Truth About Geopolymer Materials... | Owen Benjamin & Chris Gardner | DSH #1899

58 min
Mar 31, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Owen Benjamin and Chris Gardner discuss biochar's agricultural and environmental benefits, geopolymer construction technology used in ancient pyramids, and alternative historical narratives about the Bible's connection to North America. They explore how carbon-based materials can revolutionize soil health, water filtration, and EMF blocking while challenging conventional historical accounts of ancient civilizations.

Insights
  • Biochar is a stable, carbon-fixed material that persists for 15,000+ years and dramatically improves soil fertility and water filtration by 4-5x yields through micro-diamond crystal structures
  • Ancient pyramids were likely constructed using geopolymer technology (molded volcanic ash and calcium compounds) rather than slave labor, suggesting advanced engineering knowledge in ancient civilizations
  • Carbon is being demonized through social engineering despite being essential to life; soil carbon deficit is a critical agricultural problem requiring biochar amendment
  • Historical narratives have been systematically inverted and relocated (e.g., Holy Land in North America rather than Middle East) to serve central banking interests and obscure true history
  • Flow state and objective reality are achieved through effortlessness and absence of ego/will, not through willpower or forced intention
Trends
Regenerative agriculture adoption using biochar and native grassland restoration to improve soil health and pollinator populationsAlternative historical narratives gaining traction challenging mainstream archaeological and biblical interpretationsEMF-blocking building materials using activated carbon and graphene compounds for health-conscious constructionData center corridor development along central US spine correlating with controlled environmental disasters and land devaluationGeopolymer construction technology being deployed in modern military installations despite public unfamiliarityCarbon-based conductors replacing traditional materials in computing and electrical applications due to zero-latency propertiesWeather modification and cloud seeding using graphene nanoparticles for water storage and on-demand precipitationMandela Effect and timeline shift discussions gaining mainstream cultural awareness and personal testimonies
Topics
Biochar production and agricultural applicationsGeopolymer construction technology and ancient pyramid engineeringSoil carbon deficit and regenerative farming practicesEMF blocking and graphene conductivity propertiesAlternative biblical geography and North American Holy Land theoryWeather modification and atmospheric aerosol dispersalFlow state psychology and objective reality philosophyMandela Effect and timeline shiftsNative grassland restoration and pollinator habitatCentral banking interests and historical narrative controlCERN particle collider and dimensional portalsIdentity, ego, and consciousness studiesAncient civilization capabilities and technological advancementData center infrastructure and land acquisition strategiesCarbon-based computing and zero-latency conductors
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Grocery retailer sponsor offering wine discounts during Easter promotion with Lidl Plus membership
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CERN
Particle collider facility discussed as potential dimensional gateway or portal creation device under Mount Hermon
People
Owen Benjamin
Co-host discussing geopolymer technology, alternative history, and consciousness philosophy
Chris Gardner
Biochar expert and construction specialist discussing soil amendment, geopolymer engineering, and building techniques
Dr. Joseph Davidovitz
Scientist who discovered pyramid geopolymer construction theory in 1979; contracted with military installations
Zahi Hawass
Egyptian official who opposed Davidovitz's geopolymer theory and promoted slave-labor pyramid narrative
Zach Bush
Previously appeared on show discussing soil probiotics and gut health parallels
Joe Rogan
Referenced for covering Montana's multi-ton stone wall anomaly on his show
Longguo
Theorist identifying four-headed river in Florida-Alabama-Georgia border as biblical Garden of Eden location
Quotes
"Biochar is actually fixed carbon and we fix it in an oxygen less environment. So it's super stable. It's not like charcoal."
Chris GardnerEarly discussion
"The pyramids are molded geopolymers. They made the stone and poured it. And so they were using all the trees to do that."
Chris GardnerMid-episode
"I think our fall is the fall from objective reality. Sin meant to miss the mark. To be sinless is to hit the mark, and the mark is objective reality."
Owen BenjaminLate discussion
"When you're in the flow state, I wasn't doing it. It was happening. I was witnessing it happen."
Chris GardnerFlow state discussion
"The Bible has a lot to do with the U.S. Especially the Old Testament. I am of the mind that the Old Testament was the U.S."
Owen BenjaminAlternative history segment
Full Transcript
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Get the right life insurance for you, for less, and save more than 50% at selectquote.com slash dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com slash dsh. Today to get started at selectquote.com slash dsh. The Bible has a lot to do with the U.S. Especially the Old Testament. I am of the mind that the Old Testament was the U.S. When you look at the level of destruction, especially here in Nevada and heading south, like the... Yeah, like a lot of those mountains look a lot like some pyramids that didn't work out. Yeah, some desertification. When you read about the Titans and then you kind of like mesh that with the Old Testament, there's a lot of the like demigod, Titan, Nephilim that works really well in the geography here. All right, guys, you're with Owen and Christopher. We're going to talk soil to that. Yes. Still a man. You brought some... I did. ...in here, right? Some biochar to be exact. I'm sort of a snob about the carbon. So what does this do exactly? Well, biochar is actually fixed carbon and we fix it in an oxygen less environment. So it's super stable. So it's not like charcoal. Like a lot of people get biochar and charcoal mixed up. Charcoal, they're usually doing pit burns where a lot of oxygen goes ahead and works on the carbon and it creates a secondary oxidative stress. This is fixed because there was no oxygen in the burn. So apparently this is stable for up to about 15,000 years. Damn. Yeah. It's a long time. That's a very long time, Gardener. Holy crap. So it makes it a cumulative thing. So when you add it to your garden, your soil space, that it won't go away unless it gets washed away. I need to buy some of this. We got a garden at the house now. You got a garden. And this thing, this filters water really well. Yeah. Yeah, the water filtration thing we're finding is probably its biggest benefit because we're getting between four and five times the yield. And the science now is coming back with it and it's because of the way this structures water. Everybody's heard of carbon filters. Yes. When you get a carbon filter that's actually made out of biochar or activated carbon, the filtration and the structuring of the water is even greater. And it's because we're finding that on a micro level, we were all told as kids that diamonds are essentially carbon that was compressed. Well, in the making of the biochar, you get really, really, really small diamonds. And so you know how people would decant alcohols, different types of alcohols and a crystal vase or something like that? Yeah. This is kind of decanting the water that runs through it through a diamond vase. That's a good way of looking at it. Wow. So there's actual diamonds coming out. Yeah. Yeah. I have some pictures on Instagram. Holy crap. Yeah. Because I've never had it analyzed till just this last year. And now that we're seeing it at a micro level and seeing all the diamonds in it, it's pretty amazing. That's insane. Yeah. And what got me interested in this stuff is one, the farming, but also the social engineering around carbon because the demonizing of carbon and we're made out of carbon. So it almost seems like that bad dad that is blaming everything on the kids like, oh, my life would be better without these kids. And we're just like, where are kids? Exactly. Yeah. I'm carbon. Yeah. I'm carbon, man. And so in the way I look at the wizard stuff and the social engineering, I'm like, so car, you know, and then when he started talking about how we have a carbon deficit, yes, I got interested. And that's why I wanted you guys to hang because I'm like, more people should know about this stuff because it's true. If you if you grow plants with this or even just put it on top of fruit trees and stuff, it's just the yield grows. Damn. Yeah. My fruit tree just died. So I needed what kind of fruit tree was it? It was lemon. I have lemon pomegranate and orange. Must be nice to have citrus. You're not allowed to talk badly about citrus around. I love citrus right? He burps on an internal level. I can't grow it. I can't grow it in Idaho. I'm trying, but yeah, it's too cold. Oh, it's too cold. I am inside though. I put a lot of effort in my orange tree. But I love oranges, man. Good for you. Out here, we can only grow citrus because it's too hot. That's true. You know, we need stuff with the skin. Well, out here too, you don't have much carbon in the ground anyway. The desert for the most part. I mean, I'm sure you're buying top soil and things like that from, but what makes usually what makes when you see really good soil, it looks dark, right? Right. Well, the dark componentry of it is this black carbon. And so usually what makes the soil alive is the fact that you have this little structured carbon in there and that attracts all your micro-ryza, which is your fungus, and it attracts all the good bacteria. So like, you know, you just had Zach Bush on, and the whole thing is about having the probiotics in your gut and all that really helps everything happen. Well, it's the same thing in our soil. Our soil needs to have the probiotic content for it to do all the work. Yeah, that's almost like a perfect empty condominium. It is. And all the best bacteria move in there. So if you mix that with some like good compost and some animal manure and stuff, it's a goldmine. Incredible. I know you got a lot of land, so you're doing this? Oh yeah, far. Yeah. And you can just turn wood chips into bio... Tell them about the rainforest. Oh yeah, the biomass. So like the way we actually make this is we just take wood chips from a wood mill and we cook it in these special kilns and that makes it. Well, the Amazonians did that. I think the conquistadors started talking about the Amazonian agriculture in the early 1500s, and they said it was more intensive than even what they had seen in Asia. Damn. So that was amazing when I read that. I was like, whoa. And what they saw was they would essentially do a chop and drop system where they would grow the light demanding plants. The light demanders grow really fast. They would chop them, but they would chop them and said they would fall over these little kilns that they made. And then once all the kilns were covered, then they look like... Their kilns look like tandoori ovens. Once all the kilns were covered, then they would throw dirt on top of that to kind of seal it in, and then they would light the fire inside those little kilns and cook it down, and they wouldn't ever move it. And then after it was cooked down, then they would plant it. And so that was the way the Amazonian culture was able to grow and be so massive. Well, when the disease from the conquistadors took them out, the jungle reclaimed it, but they reclaimed when the trees came back in, there was all this carbon in the ground. And then that's why the Amazonian rainforest is as massive as it is. That's nuts. It's badass. Yeah, it is the largest rainforest, right? Yeah, it is. And it wasn't like that. That's the thing, a lot of people are under the misnomer. When we see something as it is now, we think it's always been that way. The opposite happened in the Sahara. My professor in geopolymers, he showed that the Sahara went away because when they were building the different pyramids in Northern Africa, they needed fly ash. So they started chopping the forest back there, and they chopped so much of it down to create the fly ash for the geopolymer. Yeah, like they poured the, you know, like, do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, investing after 2008, loading up on the video, AI is changing jobs, markets are all over the place, nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point, you realize no one's in your safety. We're kind of the FOMO generation. But here's one thing you don't want to miss, protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. Thankfully, I found select quote, for over 40 years, they've helped more than 2 million Americans understand their options and secure over $700 billion in coverage. As a broker, their mission is simple to find you the right insurance policy at the best price. And they work for you for free. You can even get same day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam required. And even if you have preexisting conditions, they work with companies that can help. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at select quote.com slash dsh. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at select quote.com slash dsh. Today to get started at select quote.com slash dsh. At Lidl, pop the cork on wines you love this Easter. Buy any three or more deluxe wines and get 30% off with Lidl Plus, like our Chris Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc or our Rich Barossa Valley Charise. Lidl, more to value. We drink away 80 plus subject to availability, selected lines and stores only, England only, end 80 to the fourth, terms apply to Lidl dot code UK slash LPTV. We kind of did kind of solve the pyramid thing. Yeah. They're molded geopalmers. They made the they made the stone and poured it. And so they were using all the trees to do that. And then it starts this vicious cycle where they don't get rain and then it becomes a desert versus the opposite happening in the Amazon. Okay. Yeah. It wasn't aliens that built the pyramids. No. You know, they might have looked a little like that with their head sizes, but whatever. Yeah. More like the Nephys. The Nephys were building it. They had some. A Nephalomer. I think we might be related to them. So. Me too. I mean, we're, I mean, yeah, we're tall enough. People used to be nine feet back in the day. Yeah. I have to watch my words around you. That's true. So my N word is Nephilim. How dare you? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, the rainforest as we know it now was not what was endemic to that area. It was actually, it happened to be a secondary growth off of the biochar that the Amazonians, because the Amazonian culture, the numbers that the conquistadors were saying were like in the upwards of like a hundred million people. Yeah. It was massive. They said it was more culturally intensive, like agriculturally intensive than what they had seen in Asia. No way. Yeah. That's hard to pick. Yeah. The pyramids there, like all that stuff, that came from massive civilizations. Yeah. Yeah. Logically, it has to be. These things are giant. Yeah. You can't make those today though, right? Yeah. Not as a ban. Well, you could if you like. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're told a lot of things. Like there's like, I brought up Dr. Davidivitz earlier with the Geopalmers. He's contracted to help a lot of military installations go in. So these things are being built. Just the public isn't really. Oh, so pyramids are being built. Not necessarily pyramids, but let's just say geopolymer rich structures. Got it. Because when people talk about Tartarian structures, they talk about all these things that are essentially indestructible and very old. And construction guys hate that because it costs so much to flip them. Like break them down? Yeah. Yeah. Like what was it the Philadelphia? The comptroller of Philadelphia when he was telling the congressman of Philadelphia, hey, look, we all go bankrupt if we knock down City Hall. Yeah. We can't do it. That wasn't built by wage slaves. Yeah. That was built by some other people that had. I mean, it wasn't horses and wagons in the roads. It wasn't horses and wagons and little come-alongs and polis. Yeah. That's how the pyramids were built, right? Slaves. No. That's what I would remember as a kid, the learning. Yeah. Yeah. We were all taught that. But like, if you ever get a chance, Dr. Davidovitz is an incredible person. He was actually kicked out of Egypt from Zahari, Hawass. I always. Oh, I know that guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's the big guy that's pushing the slave narrative of Northern Africa. But in 1979, he had figured out what I'm talking about with the pyramids. Jeez. 1979. Yeah. And the geopalmers, they get harder over time. Same with Roman aqueducts. Yeah. And so they're just like, no one knows how. And it's like, you can make this stuff. Yeah. Like, I've made geopalmers. I'm actually here in Las Vegas to actually go to, this Thursday, I'm going to go talk with my geopalmer producer. I'm actually going to be interviewing Glenn for my pod. So I'm excited to see their plant and how they're doing it. Because I've made them myself, but it's a pretty labor intensive. How does that process work to make one? You have to find volcanic ash. I can't just buy that. Pawsalonic ash. It depends. Like, where I lived in Central America, I could get it. Most of the cement companies used instead of fly ash, they used volcanic ash. That's why the cement down there was so good. But the main thing that's hard to get is this substrate called natron. And natron mixed with fly ash or some other high heat ash. Sounds like a wrap or natron. Natron. What about natron? Yeah. Natron, silica, like a sand, some sort of sand. And then also a very, very highly rich calcium bentonite clay. Those are your substrate for geopalmers. So like the areas in near Rome where you have all these old aqueducts and things like that, that are geopalmers, they had the pazalon, the volcano called Pazalon. So they used Pawsalonic ash. They were on the Mediterranean. So they had tons of sand and they also had tons of crustaceans. And so reason why Zahari Hawass got so pissed off at my teacher was that they pushed this whole narrative that oh, Northern Africa was flooded. That's why we find seashells at the base of the Sphinx, in the base of the pyramids. That's such a crazy call to be like, it must be like it was flooded by an ocean. What an assumption. Yeah, totally. It was like, no, you'd dip. I don't know if I'm allowed to curse here. No, you dip shit. They actually used the crustaceans that were in the Nile River, the calcium bentonite clays right there. They deforested and pulled all the fly ash right there in the largest natron deposit in the world in Northern Africa. Here it is. And this is the cool thing, they dry mixed it. So whenever you're doing concrete work, what makes it so heavy is it's wet. So he was able to show, because any archaeologists will tell you, no, the cities that were alive when these were being built were not slave cities. They were artisan cities. They find all this high art. All slaves do is bitch anyway. I hate working with slaves. They're just like, why do you keep whipping me? I'm like, because I know you can work harder. Exactly. They don't do a good job. Too much time for music. So they were able to show that archaeologically that the people that were building these things were not under the whip. And so Davidivus was able to show, no, no, they would dry mix it and they had hoofed it up and they had forms because whether you're in South America or in Egypt, even they found this in Gobiakle Tepe in Turkey, wherever these pyramids are, you'll see that there's a little indention against each rock. Yeah, I've seen those. That's in Montana too. Have you seen that wall? Oh, dude, I don't want to sidetrack because he's making a point, but there's massive, multi-ton, perfect wall in Montana near where I live and people are claiming it's a natural phenomenon. It looks, it's insane. Rogan's covered it so people know about it, but it's like, but they all have those little notches. That little notch is like, I do construction. I have a construction company and whenever you're doing a free form pour, you have these forms that you have to lean something against it. So when you do your pour, it doesn't, you know, and literally the notch is on every single one. So you just know that they did the dry mix from the top, they poured the water in, they let the heat of the day come because the casing stones on the outside were black. And also when you look at the side cut of the pyramid, it actually looks like a massive rocket stove, which is another love of mine. And so what David of its was able to show was they heated it from the inside with the rocket stove type thing. And then the heat from the sun heated the outside, it was able to raise the temperature of the geopalmer to a sufficient heat where it set much faster. And they just work their way. And he predicted, he said, you'll find a spiral, because for years and years and years, people were saying, oh, no, we've mapped every single part of the great pyramid. He's like, no, no, you'll find that there's, there should be a spiral going to the very top to where, you know, the, and they found it. No way. Yeah, it's there. The spiral's on the inside of the pyramid. On the inside, because think about it, if you're building like the way he said they were building, you'd be working like this as you were working to a peak. Like a staircase almost. Yeah, like all of us have seen like the conical shapes, like a pyramid is just an octagon. They, most people think it's a cubicle at the base, but it's an octagon. But just a four sided cone is the best way of saying it. And to get the, the energy or the material all the way to the peak, you'd move in a spiral. And so that was another one. Like an inside scaffolding kind of. Exactly. Yeah. That's the path that you'd have to take to, to position all the dry material to have a cure. Yeah, this is I find this stuff so fascinating. He built a dome at our campground that we do the Bertrand campground. And now I'm just so interested in building techniques. Cause it's just, I was like, when I was at the Vatican, I remember just being like, this is not like how I've been taught construction works. Like there's, and I just love building stuff. You know, it's like, it's, it's fun. Yeah. These structures that were built were like, I mean, as somebody, my dad was an architect, my sister's an architect. Like I've been in that world my entire life and the stories that we're given with how things are built are, it's not. Yeah. I wonder why that happened. Well, it's because they, the, I think the social engineering is that we're the apex. Right. Right. That doesn't get any better than us, man. We're the apex. Our little electronic doohickeys, that's the way. Dude, they didn't have red bill or, or. Oh, exactly. It's so like, when you look at these older structures and God knows how old these things are, like they're getting better with time. Yeah. And any of the stuff we build does not get better with time. Facts. So it's like, my pickleball court, you know, you always have to like, fix cracks and stuff. Not these guys. No. 2000 years old. It's perfect. And the thing is too, is I built in Central America. So I've, do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, and best thing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA AI is changing jobs. Markets are all over the place. 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At Lidl, pop the cork on wines you love this Easter. Buy any three or more deluxe wines and get 30% off with Lidl Plus, like our Chris Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc or our Rich Barossa Valley Shiraz. Lidl. More to value. We drink away at 80 plus subject to availability, selected lines and stores only. England only ends at 80 fourth. Terms apply at Lidl dot code UK slash LPTV. Built in conditions where I'm more akin to knowing what it would be like being a frontiersman building something. And I will tell you the last thing that you can do on a piece of land that has no roads is build something heavy. Right. It sinks. It all sinks, including you trying to get the material to the. I didn't even think about that. It's all logistics is where you see the devil. You know what I mean? It's all the details. Yeah. Like I literally had to invent a way of building because I lived in the mushiest of the mush in Central America because I could not get heavy materials to site. Yeah. DC is in a swamp. Exactly. And there's this beautiful dome. The funniest thing, he was like a Nick Saban kicker. Like he's a all American kick, like an insane kick. But he just got really into like the arcs of the domes. Yeah. Yeah. No. Could I like, my position was like as a kicker, you're always watching trajectory and arcing, trajectory and arcing. Right. I mean, without a doubt, like I used to catch punts from Reggie Roby, who was like an all pro punter in the NFL. My punters at my college, like they would pump balls or 80 yards in the air and I would just watch the arc. And then so I got really fascinated with the archer. Yeah. So like that dome, like the Congress dome, like how hard would that be to build in a swamp? Impossible. Yeah. We just built a 42 foot dome, which is half the size of what they built in Washington. In a 42 foot diameter dome, we had a crane boom that was 60 feet tall. And we were building that only four feet off the ground. Yeah. And double it gets exponentially harder too. Exponentially harder. And that was just the trellis of the frame. Yeah. That wasn't even doing all the masonry work. Yeah. And then having all those like naked dude sculptures. Jeez. Jeez. That would be the fun part. That's hilarious. Holy crap. Yeah. So there's a lot to consider. And one of the things with the carbon that's really cool, part of what got me into carbon was this as a building amendment is amazing. Like when we add this to concrete, because most concrete or cement is the binder in concrete, it's very, very calcium rich. And so looking into the geopolymer science and then looking into the concrete science was like, oh my God, if I gave that calcium carbon, now we're cooking with gas. And it blocks EMFs and stuff too. Totally blocks. This is the magic because I've had to build for very EMF sensitive people. We've literally been able to get the internals of rooms and buildings to zero. No way. Zero micro. Please not even penetrate it. No. Especially 5G. 5G is a very short wave. And so it's actually not that hard to block if you have enough of this. It's actually not a volume thing. It's actually a size thing because these are all these like, the best way you could think of it is super computers and things like that are starting to use activated carbon as the conductors because it can actually send a signal with zero latency. Wow. Yeah. That's awesome. And because there's zero latency and you can send ampage through it too with almost zero resistance. So I think it is zero resistance, but depending on manufacturing processes. So the big no-no word that you hear, especially in the truth of the world is graphene. Ooh, graphene is evil. Well, graphene is going to be like the direction that most computing goes because of how efficient the signal and the electrical current can be sent. Well, when we actually put that in a chaotic mess, like say within in paint, that same thing that will send a signal and be able to receive a signal with zero latency will also reflect a signal if it's tangential to where the signal is coming from. Does that make sense? Yeah. Why is graphene evil though? Why do people say that? Well, is that because they put it in shots and stuff? Well, they put it in shots and a lot of the weather modification that's used, they spray graphene because it's. Oh, in the chemtrails? Yeah. Yeah. Got it. I like to say a high aerosol atmospheric dispersant. No, I say that specifically because there's this huge movement like the states like Tennessee and Florida where we've banned chemtrails. Yeah, everybody there still sees chemtrails and it's because the word chemtrail is actually not the right word for what we're seeing. What we're seeing up there, the streaks in the sky is technically, and if people brought legislation with the right word, it would actually make all the difference in the world. But when they just switch it again, now they love switching the definition. Well, if they use the word cloud seeding, you use the two words cloud seeding and high atmospheric aerosol dispersant. If you use those two things, then you could actually have legislation that would actually do something. It's like rumple still skin. Yeah. It's like, oh, you got manning. Well, you know how legal this, you know, realistic. Yeah, of course. Of course, yeah. So like. Like image, like when they're like, look at this image from NASA. Image, the definition of image is not reality. It's like a idea put in, you know, it's not a photograph. I have to say photograph. Image is not like real. That's so true. That's a good one. Yeah. I wouldn't even think about that. Imagination, image. Exactly. Damn. Yeah. So like they'll use this in modifying the weather, weather modification, geoengineering is a great term in the geoengineering because it as a condensation nuclei, like something that attracts water, it's perfect for storing water in the sky. So like NASA, like 25 years ago was saying, we're going to store all the water in the future is going to be stored in the sky because they can make these nanoparticulates of this, they put it up in the air and they can drive this very easily with signals. So they can store water up in the atmosphere. Wow. Yeah. And water can hold data. It's a direct metaphor to the iCloud. Exactly. That's crazy. Yeah. Cloud seeding is not just for moving the liquid, actually for moving the ocean. And can they release the water on demand from the cloud? On demand. No way. On demand. They can just make it rain. Absolutely. Holy shit. Oh, there's so many, I mean, so the whole thing happened in central Texas, right? You know, how many months ago? All the hurricane or whatever. No, in central Texas, they had this tree- It rained for 30 days, just like... 30 days straight. I don't know how many days, but it was insane. They essentially got a year's worth of rain in like a few hours there. And it killed a bunch of kids, like all this damage in central... I might be thinking of one a few years ago. They've done it a lot. They do it a lot in Texas. Yeah. Like Texas. Well, Texas is because it's part of the new, the central data corridor. So there's a... Rabbit hole to rabbit hole. Yeah. It's like years ago, they were talking about the whole thing with CAFTA and NAFTA about, you know, having this highway from all the way down from South America, all the way to the tar pits of Canada. And it was in seeing where all these floods are, and I live in the central part of the United States too, and seeing where all these massive farms are going on business. And then when my biochar company were helping the state of Iowa remediate a lot of their water problems from big agriculture, and what's Iowa telling me from their legislature? They've approved something like 200 data centers. And so when you look at all of the different data centers in all the different states, it's down that same highway that they were talking about years ago that I thought was going to be like an actual highway. It's the information highway. And they're literally putting it right up the spine of the Americas. And so what they're doing now is they're devaluing the land by these controlled outbursts of rain, or these controlled outbursts of fire in these very specific... What a farm in this flooded area. Exactly. Why are, you know, sell it to us, you know, pennies on the dollar, because it's not worth anything. It's climate change. I mean, it's everything's getting so chaotic out there. Well, again, it's because carbon is killing you now. Oh, no, no. But aren't I made out of carbon? Exactly. You can kind of see how it's all like tied together. Yeah. Yeah. So the data centers are a really big deal. And right down the center of Texas, I forget how many have been approved for that. Because everything with data is about trunk lines. You know, there's not so many of these sataloons that we have up there in space. They still need the... If we're going to be pooling all this data and creating all this data, we still need a central area to actually distribute it from. And so that's why you see the center of the United States kind of being gutted right now. Wow. So move out of Texas, huh? Well, it's kind of funny who they've attracted there. But you could still survive all this stuff though. Yeah, you know, you gotta have good grass. I know another thing, but grass with really deep roots, it doesn't flood. That's not really. Yeah. It acts like a sponge. So you need old grass? We're bringing the savannah back. Well, yeah, it's like six inches an hour versus like a quarter inch an hour. So like old grass, you don't flood. That's why cement golf courses, these places, it makes it really easy to flood. Yeah, you get the flash flooding because the water has nowhere to go. Right. So you got some grass, guys. Absolutely. Good grass. Yeah, yeah, good grass. Some legit old school grass. Yeah, the native grasses. They've been working with a company there where we've been supplying them with biochar to do testing. Because one thing about the grasses too was the natives used to burn it. Why? Well, they would burn it because they would see that it would actually, once again, fix the carbon. Yeah, the burns are good. Yeah, yeah, the roots would, because when you burn, they would burn topside, but the deeper the roots were, the new shoots would just get in the atmosphere. Okay. The grass doesn't die. It was just, you're essentially giving the ground back biomass. In our area of Missouri, where we're just west of the Mississippi, was a savanna. And the savanna was known at, like savannas are a very large ecotone. It's when you move from forest to the plains. That's where all the life is. That's where all the life is, because that's where all the boundaries. Yeah. Because the birds, the birds don't necessarily need trees. They need low grass. Right. And so all of your big, hooved animals and things like that eat that grass. So you end up having this, you know, a, a glomeration of all these different animal types that are all symbiotic with each other. And then also the grasses give incredible sight lines to the predators. You don't get the same thing in forests, especially forests that weren't native to that. Yeah. It's, it's, it's like the light comes in, but yet they have the protection. It's like the coral reef of land. The savanna. Yeah. You know, it's, it's like, like all the life is near the coast kind of where you have the coral reef, where you have like the light, but you also have the protection. Yeah. That's a great way of putting it. Thanks, man. Yeah. Yeah. Like working with Urserio, I see that. Like I'll, I'll take out some trees and I see more life come in. Because at first I'm like, oh, I don't want to take out trees. It's the forest. Yeah. Because it attracts grass, birds, light. Wow. Yeah. And then the big trees get bigger. Yeah. Yeah. Your beach trees. It's awesome. Yeah. And we have, there's so much evidence of really massive trees at one point, but like when you have a lot of grass, you don't have what the, whenever you buy forested land, which I've bought in many different countries, is the first thing that when you're talking to the conservationists is like, oh, you have to clear out these saplings. Huh. And I thought like growing up with the whole programming that I had that that was like, never, never touch a tree. And it was actually, it's actually the exact. Is it? Yeah. No, all those new little trees that are starting to sprout up, they're competing for the very limited nutrient base in the soil against the big, the bigger tree around it. So they say for every inch of like, say an oak tree per se, you take that in a foot to the next tree that's closest to it. So just by example, if you have a 12 foot, you know, at the base tree, you need 12 feet in every direction would no sap. They need that much. They need that much. Holy crap. At least that. That's the main. Yeah. And other stuff can grow there. It's just, it's more like lower nitrogen fixing stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like not. The big thing is the pollinators. Yeah. Pollinators. Because you need your pollinators in the forest. And that's a big problem we have with these overgrown forests is that there's not enough pollinators. The reason why the bees and the birds are going away, yes, there's glyphosate. Yes, there's all this other stuff. But the main thing is, is the pollinators that used to be in the grasslands, well, there's very little grasslands left because there's very little carbon. Yeah. It comes back fast. It's like, I just, I plant a lot of wildflowers and it's like, bang, bees, birds. It's almost like they're waiting somewhere where they're like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's so weird how fast it returns to the Ardenbees and birds everywhere. Yeah. Homing birds, yeah. Everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Homing birds are amazing. Do they have a humming bird? I love humming birds. Yeah. They might be my favorite bird, honestly. Me too. They're so innocent. Yeah. They're pretty prolific. Yeah. They're, like in the area, the last two areas I live, whether it's Costa Rica or Central Missouri, they're there. Yeah. They got to eat like every seven minutes. What? Yes. Yeah. That sucks. Like there's some, there's some a little junky, messy about them, but I still love that. They're like, dude, you got pollen? You got pollen? Yeah. Yeah. I love them though. And the more pollinators you have, I live on a lake and we have lots of like natural pollinators because of the lake and they're, they're everywhere and they bring such a cool vibration when they fly by you. It's almost like an energetic. Yeah. Now that's what I love about, about the, yeah, another so cool. Yeah. And they seem almost curious. They're like, what's up, dude? Yeah. Yeah. You good? Okay. I'm out of here. Well, I've done the experiment. Like when my mind's too busy, they'll, they'll definitely like, you know, flee. But like if I just settle down and I'm just like present, then they're like, Bro, I try to tell that to people, but it sounds almost too intense, but it's so true. I'm like, yeah, your vibe will attract different animals and insects. Absolutely. In sex. Really? 100%. Oh yeah. In my opinion, I know that sounds intact, but I'm in nature all the time and it's just like, when you're just present, it'll be like, oh no way. Hey, Mr. Squirrel, you know, and when you're not, they're like, not there. It's weird. I notice this the most with deer. Like the deer, because every morning there's deer by my property. Yeah. I'm walking my golden retriever and he wants to make friends with every animal. And so like, I noticed that the deer, if I'm like listening to like a podcast and I'm like, not present, the deer flee. Like they don't, they don't like the not present vibration. Wow. But if I'm not and I'm just walking my dog and I'm being present with my dog and I'm listening to nature, the deer will just hover. Totally. They just like, they're just like, hmm, hmm. You know, they're, they're very curious. They are. But they're only curious if you're present. Yeah. It's 100%. I wonder what that is. You must be giving off a certain energy field. Well, I think because they're so present, like, you know, I have this like thing in physics is like frequency is location. So when you're. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, investing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA? AI is changing jobs and markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point you realize no one's going to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation, but here's one thing you don't want to miss. Protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. Thankfully, I found select quote for over 40 years. They've helped more than 2 million Americans understand their options and secure over $700 billion in coverage. As a broker, their mission is simple to find you the right insurance policy at the best price and they work for you for free. 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But like when you're not present and your mind is you know, wherever or scattered, then when you're coming into contact with it, it wants to flee because you're not in its median tone. Wow. Yeah, they say nature is healing though. Yeah. So yeah. I could see that. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I find for me like I've seen it over and over and over again in many different settings where if I'm just present and I'm just in observation mode, the amount of natural life that will actually make itself known is much greater than when I'm distracted. That's so fascinating. Yeah, there's no lies in nature. That's what's so healing about it for me. It just is what it is. Yeah. Yes. You know, it's awesome. Yeah, I want to get to your level one day when I'm just in nature all day. Yeah, I mean you garden, right? Yeah, but I think living in Vegas, it's tough, but yeah. It's still nature here. I mean, deserts are beautiful. You know? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they got Red Rock out here. I think the desert is incredible. Yeah, that's still nature. I love your live stream by the live stream. Yeah, have you seen that? I saw, so I got this land where I have this like river and I'm like, and there's mountains in the background and it looks like a green screen. And so I live streamed by the live stream because I got deep platform before, so I physically built a platform and I live stream with a live stream and it's just so relaxing. Like it doesn't even matter what I'm talking about. People just want to see the river flow. Oh, gosh. You're filled with like fish and it's just like really cool. Yeah, that's in your backyard. Well, I got a land up north a little bit. Yeah. I'm sick. Like when we'd have meetups and stuff, like listener meetups and stuff, we'd have like campground and my wife calls them internet friends, so they're not technically allowed at my house. That's true. So we got this yet and we had outdoor friends before. Like I've had some friends that are like, you know, like veterans that are just super intense. I love them, but my wife's like, they're outdoor friends. Like we can set it afire. Don't break them and suck. No, because one time we did bring one of them inside and he was just like, and it was just like there's a bunch of kids around too. And he was like, do you know how many people I've, I'm like, okay, we're going outside. That's not it. No pink mist. Yeah. We don't talk about pink mist or hypocrisy from Hillary Clinton inside. Yeah. You mentioned trees over there. I did want to ask you about the redwoods because those are giant. Yeah. They're kind of close to each other, right? Well, I don't know. I've never been there. I've only seen pictures. I have a lot of theories about those particular. What's the theories? Well, you got that look in your eye. You got some gravy. What is it? Yeah. I think the, I think the redwoods are the cedars of Lebanon. Whoa. Yeah. So the biblical cedars of Lebanon, that whole thing. I don't think the Middle East is, is the Holy Land. I think that's all engineered. I mean, it's pretty well written, especially if you look into the, into the British way of doing things in the mid 1800s, that that was pretty much an engineered space. But I really think that the Holy Land was the Western United States, actually, where we are right now. Like when you go up into Utah and North, all the way up through Alaska and even into, on the old maps, they called it the Isla de Isu, which is the island of Jesus. That area just above the Bering Straits, I think all this, this area was the Holy Land. And they had to reframe it for their, for, I guess you could call it the central banking interests. Yeah. Pretty much all the history that we know of over the last 500 years is written for the central banking interests. And they have a very good way of redirecting our attention away from what is so, in, in kind of, you know, pigeonholing certain things and giving us a lot of red herrings. And so the cedars of Lebanon, the way they're, what it's written about. And when you look at the old maps of like the California and Oregon coastline, going up into Washington and like, you know, Canada and stuff like that, that fits so much better when you're actually, if you're to take the biblical narrative that's given, that, that area fits that so much better than what we're told of the Middle East. You think the Salt Lake, Salt Lake is the Dead Sea? I think so. No way. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's what the Mormons, I think that they, I think they have that gravy too. Yeah. I think, I think there's a lot of redirects. A lot of redirects. Yeah. A lot of them are even named the same. Yes. I know. It's crazy. Because that would give them the liability clearance. Yeah. We told you. We told you. Yeah. That's totally. We told you. Yeah. I mean, we're still under Roman law. Like if you're too dumb to know what we're doing to you, you deserve it. That's Roman law. Yeah. Because there is, there is blowback if you lie, lie. If you lie, lie and you never give the option to. Right. There's bull, there's bull back karma, right? It really, it's there. It hits back hard too. Yeah. I tell them, it's almost like they feel almost defeated when they find out versus like angry. Right. You know? Where they're like, oh man, really? Yeah. Florida Garden of Eden. Yeah. It's oranges and okay. That's the long go. I know. Long go thinks that Florida was the Garden of Eden originally. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think the forbidden fruit thing was an actual fruit. I think. Metaphor. I think it was metaphor for sex. Oh. But you know, there's so much evidence because like whenever. What's wrong with sex, bro? Like whatever you see as small, like if you catch a kid like stealing like a cookie, what do they do when you catch him? They cover their mouth. Well, what do they keep talking about in the live? Covering the way. They're covering their genitals. Cover the genitals. Yeah, knowledge meant to have sex. Exactly. When you look at the old Hebrew and Greek, yeah, especially when you look at it to like uncover one's nakedness meant sex. So anything talking about nakedness dealt with sexuality. Wow. So I believe with what Longgo is saying about the Four-Headed River is absolutely true because there's only one Four-Headed River in the entire world and it's in the fag of the United States, the Florida, Alabama, Georgia border. Nice. There's the Four-Headed River. Dude, the Four-Headed Fag. That's cool. Yeah, exactly. And that's also the only place in the world that grows Gopherwood. Yeah, Gopherwood. Yeah. Hell is that? Gopherwood? Gopherwood is what they made the ark out of. No way. So you have the Ark, Ark, Kansas. Arkansas was the southern Arkansas. They call it like Texarkana and down to the eastern part of Arkansas was the highest concentration of Gopherwood in the world then going down into... What do we call the ark? Yeah, yeah. That's one of those things where they have to tell you. Wow. Yeah, so Longgo exposing that is pretty cool. Yeah, no longer. This is blowing my mind. Yeah. The Bible has a lot to do with the US. I think especially like the Old Testament. I am of the mind that the Old Testament was the US. And when you look at the level of destruction, especially here in Nevada and heading south, like the... Yeah, like a lot of those mountains look a lot like some pyramids that didn't work out. Yeah, some desertification. And then also when you look at the... I think the Greeks called it the Titanachomy. When you read about the Titans and then you kind of like mesh that with the Old Testament, there's a lot of the like demigod Titan Nephilim crossover that works really well in the geography here. Like when you read the Titanachomy and you see like how the demigods were destroyed, then you see the lay of the land and like how things were laid to waste, makes a lot of sense that that was the Southwest. And they always invert it. So a new world is old world. Exactly. Exactly. And they knew how to get here. So it's like they just were like, they probably did a spell where no one could go for centuries. And then they're like, all right, it's been wilded. Let's do it again. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. No, I think that's totally it. And that's why like the whole thing with the carbon is like literally like we're told, oh, there's too much CO2. There's too much carbon where you and I know for a fact, the problem that we have is we don't have enough carbon in the ground. Yeah. Like we need that. And so there's always an inversion with these guys. Yeah. They're always telling you the exact opposite. CO2, global warming. That was always in the back of my head as a kid. I know. Like it was. You're like margarine. Remember all of it? It's just all but it's like, oh yeah, fat makes you fat, not sugar. Right. It's just like crazy. They said salt was bad for you growing up. Yeah. That's where the salary comes from. You got paid in salt. Oh really? Yeah. Salary, yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, I remember my grandparents saying, is he worth his salt? Yeah. As a kid, I was always trying to figure that out. And I don't even know how many people are even culpable or if that just happens when you kind of live a life where you lie a lot, where you almost like it flips in your head. Because I don't know. I don't want to say there's some grand conspiracy because I've seen people see the world upside down when they've lied a lot in their life. They almost just start seeing it that way where hate is love. You know what I mean? It's like, don't look at a nice family having a great time and be like, that's hate. And you're like, dude, what happened to you? You know? Well, I think the thing is for me, some of the people that exposed me to Agenda 21 way back in the day that were actually showing me the white papers and then reading some of the history behind the different philanthropic institutes, I really think that this is an agenda. I don't think. I think there's a level where it is. I just think it's like way, way up there. It's Mount Olympus there. It's like you have a level. Yeah. Yeah. The Swiss used to be like the assassins of Europe. You ever went into the Swiss? Yeah. Like kings would go to a canton and be like, you have to kill Austria. And that's what they did. Yeah. Yeah. No, totally. They were like the toughest warriors. And then they just got really into watches and shit because the transportation. So how expensive it is to get things in and out? They'd have to make one thing a steal super valuable so they got really into springs and little tiny things. Dude, the Swiss are awesome people, man. They're your people. They're my people. I'm part Swiss. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Those guys crush. You could tell the cheekbones. They're the most armed country in the world and the lowest crime rate. Wow. Yeah. Every dude goes into boot camp and they all have a gun for life and they just are like, you can't invade us. We'll kill all of you. Yeah. And it works. Yeah. And they make the best particle colliders too. Do they? What do you think that really is? Is that what it's started? I think that's the original Mount Hermon. No way. What does that mean? So like when the angels came down, like when they were cast out of heaven and they, you know, it's essentially where Jesus Christ, you know, did his last sermon. Yeah. Or that mountain. Excuse me. Not his last sermon. The last time he talked to his disciples. Okay. And he actually, you know, fortified his authority as being the ruler of both heaven and earth. That happened on Mount Hermon because that's where the angels fell to earth too. And so I think CERN, CERN, because there's like 10,000 particle colliders all around the world, but CERN is by far the largest that we know of. There's probably some larger ones in Asia, but out of the ones that we know of, and especially under the lake that it goes under and the mountain that it goes in. Yeah. That's a lot of juice. And then you see that it has the big Shiva, you know, statue on the front of it, like which is, you know, my time in India kind of informs us what that is. Is that I think that's just a gateway. I think these, because whenever like I, like I use devices that vortex things all the time, what does a vortex do at the very center of a vortex? You always have an opening. Well, imagine you're creating a vortex with these highly charged particles as fast as you can make them go under a ring of magnets. That's so intense. It is a portal. Yeah. Starry, they call it, right? I don't know if it's a Stargate. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, investing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA? AI is changing jobs. Markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point you realize no one's gonna save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation, but here's one thing you don't want to miss, protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. Thankfully, I found select quote. For over 40 years, they've helped more than 2 million Americans understand their options and secure over $700 billion in coverage. As a broker, their mission is simple to find you the right insurance policy at the best price and they work for you for free. 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I think it has just because of how wonky certain aspects of reality. Mandela effect. Exactly. That shit's real. What's your biggest Mandela? Onyx, the Pokemon. Did you guys play Pokemon, Gryll? I've never played. No, you've never played. No. I think George is a big one. Oh, really? The tail. Yeah, yeah. That one's. Yeah, that one fucked me up. There's a lot, though. There's so many. So many. Yeah, yeah. I've been Mandela affected. He makes fun of me. Mandela. In my reality, it was always Nelson Mandela. See, they heard it's real. It's real. I thought he died in prison. No, because one of the ones that got me, the reason I do the you is Franco Columbi. I know. I'm dead serious. They're claiming his name ends with a you. It's so stupid. It's Franco Columbo. You know the bodybuilder? No. Oh, so that to me is one of the biggest Mandela's because like pumping iron. Dude, it was Franco Columbo. And now if you Google it, it says Franco Columbu. It's like it has a you at the end. I think they did that for you because you were saying Mandela before that. Yeah, that's been it came out. Yeah, they're just like, I would have F with O. Yeah, we got to mess with O. The cornucopia one too is crazy. I actually had fruit of aluminum. And I remember asking my mother, there's so many like the like the whole thing with C3PO, right? Like I actually had Empire Strike back, you know, sheets on my bed. Like I had a bunk bed. So I seriously. And so like, no, like that I would have known whether or not if he had a golden calf or not. Like, like, like I know that in my reality, that wasn't like the silver leg. Like what's going on? Nuts. That makes sense. Yeah, that one didn't make sense to me either. Do you guys believe in infinite realities? No. Oh, you don't? You think there's a finite amount of realities? I think there is, there is objective reality. And I think we're all trying to find objective reality. Because each one of us, none of us are ever going to experience each other's realities. I will never know what it is like to look through your eyes. I won't know what it's like to look through his eyes. It's awesome, by the way, through my eyes. I bet it's just looking down at it. Yeah, we got it all right. With your finger down. Yeah, exactly. So because the big assumption that we all make is that we're all living the same reality. But how many situations has it been where you like you and a friend or a partner or whatever has seen something, and you think you're seeing it the same way and then you talk to them a little bit. A hotter way of saying that. Yeah. And they saw it a totally different way or have a different, and so I think one of the biggest mysteries out there is objective reality. So you think there is an objective reality? I think there is an objective reality that just none of us are really experienced. So only God experiences it? Well, I think when the so-called satori or enlightenment occurs, you fall in into the objective cut. You fall into the real stream. The live stream. By the live stream. You fall into the real cut, and that's objective reality, but most of the time, like... What do you think happens when that happens? I think you're in... You laugh? You absolutely laugh like the Buddha. Yeah. Yeah, the first thing that happens... How about it is money? It is because everything once again has been inverted. I think our fall is the fall from objective reality. Like if you're going to look at it and put it in a Christian context. So like what we're all trying to get back to is like sin meant to miss the mark. And so to be sinless is to hit the mark, and the mark is objective reality. Yeah, and I think part of the humor is almost like when you see little kids lying about stuff that doesn't matter. And you're like, bro, just tell me. Like I can see it. Yeah. And it's almost like we live our lives like that so much that when you hit objective reality, I bet it's just like, what was I doing? Exactly. You know what I think it is? What? I mean, for me personally, because my experience is going to be different than yours. I think it's effortlessness. Because like think about God. God is... And I've been making fun of a lot of really based people for a long time. I'm sorry. I know what you mean though about like the flow, right? Yeah, yeah. Because it's literally like that's why I found it was an irony as an athlete was like all my best performances. I would be in the zone. Flow state. I was in the flow state. But during the flow state, I wasn't doing it. Right. It was happening. Right. I was witnessing it happen, but every time I was the doer, the flow state would never happen. And so reading all these books about flow state and all the things that it takes. So they say one, you have to have skin in the game. Two, it has to be dangerous. Three, there has to be preparation. And four, there has to be luck. Hmm. Because it doesn't like... You can't control it? You can't control it, right? And so luck to me... Yeah, I flow stated into a lot of ditches in my life. So to me, luck is another way of saying spontaneity. And I really think God lives in the spontaneity of it. And in the spontaneous cut, then you're in that complete free will. You're free of will. You don't have will. Because your willpower, think about what your willpower does. It immediately puts you in a funnel. I am going to have this objective. Well, if you're going to have this objective, then you're not actually open to the freedom that's actually available. So I really think pure objective reality is when you can have absolutely no will. When you can just be... And one of the reasons I listen to dudes like him and Jake and people like that is because he can kick 60 yard field goals. So it's not just like normal internet talk. It's like to understand that flow state that he knows... For me, it was like classical piano and stuff like that. It's like when you're operating at a high level, you do kind of disappear. You are the same with very high stress stand up comedy situations. It's the same thing. I almost have no memories of half my career. Yeah, just disappear. Yeah, you're just doing the thing. You're just doing it. You are it. And the flow state thing is really incredible too, because you won't really have a memory of the how of it. Yeah, and it can drive you crazy sometimes almost when you're like, I got to get back in. Right. But I have to, right? It's like so fascinating. Yeah. And it's really, really interesting, man, that flow. That's when identity can mess with people. Identity is like out of all the philosophers I've read, they all say that's it. Identity is the biggest problem. Ego, right? Well, ego is conditioning. And so if you're attached to the conditioning, that's identity. Right. So ego could be a great benefit. Like you have conditioning to do this and you're really good at it, right? Yeah, you need somewhat of an ego. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cross. Ego gets the, it's like the, it gets the misnomer of being bad. And I think that's like a Nouveau thing to say, but it's not ego that's a problem. Was that Freud? I mean, that little cokehead made ego sound bad, huh? What do you call it? The id? The id, the ego, the super ego. Yeah. He was so miserable that day. You ever read what he wrote? Don't listen to miserable people. Dude, he was so miserable and then he got like jaw cancer. Like that's an irony, huh? Oh dude. There's a link there with mental and physical health, I mean. Totally. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Physiogamy, you're really big N2. I am. I think you grow into the face you are. Yeah. You don't have the phone smashing, that's how I know. That's a hoax. You know, I just heard about that. I feel like I had never heard of that until I recently guessed I had on. That's insanity. All these young kids are smashing their face. Oh, that makes me sad, man. To become a dad, it hurts more. Like seeing kids in like a movie or something in trouble. Like I can't watch that shit now. Yeah, because it's relatable. Yeah, I think like a young kid smashing their face, I'm just like, ugh. That is terrible. Yeah, they're smashing their face or taking TRT in their 20s. I know for what? This is crazy, man. Yeah. It's a new world. I mean, listen, I'm right now drinking caffeine to be slightly more interesting, so I don't want to be a hypocrite. But that just sounds, I mean, it's just so like pointless. Yeah, it's kind of like the flow is there. We're just talking, it's pointless. It's like, why? Yeah. What is some girl going to be like, oh, your jaw is great. But what happens? Nothing happens. Yeah, what's the methodology? What are they? It's called looks maxing. I saw that. Yeah. This dude's like breaking his legs to get taller. Yeah. So people are breaking their legs to grow two inches. There's a surgery for that. Like I joke a lot about being a high supremacist. It's really not as great as you. Like just if you're listening right now, like it's not really like way better. We have a way shorter lifespan, actually. I know. It's because we're always hitting our heads on these people's door. You get CTE much, much, much. Yeah, and when we go to a concert, everyone's mad at us or it's our esteem. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We have our issues. We have our issues, man. Well, it's like a giraffe, man. The gravity is like pulling you down. Yeah. I think every inch are past 5, 10, you lose like a year on average, something like that. Yeah. My kids play violin at the old folks homes and every time I go in there, I'm always saying to Amy, I'm like, no one's over six foot in here. Yeah. Well, my family lived in their nineties though. They're like old Swiss vampires, I think. Damn. It's impressive at that height. Yeah. Do you live a while? You're like half Chinese, right? Yeah. Half Chinese, but half Irish sort of offsets, I think. No, they live a while. My dad's Irish. My dad's Irish. My dad's Irish. He's like six, five. Probably a few generations. The black Irish. Yeah. Conquering from the north. Yeah. It's a conqueror. Yeah. Yeah, that's what my dad's Irish is too. Yeah. I have a good friend that's really big into showing how the British Isles were black in the 1700s. I kind of like black truth sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're kind of hilarious. They're like, William Shakespeare, black. Yeah. Well, would you look at like this? Some of it's right though. Yeah, yeah. When you look at all the manifests of the people that were actually going, and this is what he points out. The Moors, right? Well, no, not Moors. The Barbors. Who? No, no, this is like when he is talking about the flow from the British Isles down into the Caribbean. Okay. The reason why they were so able to take over the Caribbean so quickly was because they looked like them. They were the lighter blacks. I'd like to see some, I need to see more on that. I haven't committed to memory. Lights are in black. They were black. So they're like, Halle Berry looking bitch, exactly. Fine. Fine. There is some of that though. You see that sometimes. When I grew up in South Florida and the light skin Jamaicans run. Dude, my friend in Idaho is a light skin Jamaican. She's the one who's like- She's European then. Yeah. She acts European, doesn't she? Yeah. She goes to North. Yeah. Yeah. They're really into like precious metal and yeah, but she's black. The proof is in the pudding. Don't mess with the light skins. That's right. Yeah. But she's still black though. Yeah. Well, guys, this was fun. So fun. That was a blast. Oh yeah. You took a lot of notes. I know. These are all clips. That's why I write a lot of notes. Tell the people about BioChat. Yeah. Yeah. 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