Never Trust A Traitor
64 min
•Mar 5, 20263 months agoSummary
Brooke and Connor discuss personal anecdotes including a missed Harry Styles concert opportunity, experiences with Mucinex and congestion, dancing at bars, attending a Conan Gray concert, and their competitive nature in games like Traders and Mafia. They also explore trending topics like AI-generated sexualized fruit videos, betting apps predicting nuclear war, and the JFK Netflix series.
Insights
- Social media permanence requires constant self-censorship: anything posted publicly could reach anyone globally, necessitating pre-publication judgment about content visibility
- Competitive gaming dynamics can strain relationships even among close friends when manipulation and deception are core mechanics, requiring clear boundaries between game and reality
- AI-generated content is creating unintended consequences: low-quality viral videos consume attention and engagement metrics while contributing to broader environmental and cultural concerns
- Betting apps are democratizing prediction markets in ethically problematic ways, allowing politicians to insider-trade on outcomes they directly influence
- Streaming content about real tragedies (true crime, biopics) raises questions about exploitation and compensation for affected families
Trends
Rise of AI-generated entertainment content with minimal production value but high engagement through novelty and absurdityExpansion of prediction market apps beyond sports betting into geopolitical and entertainment outcomesGrowing awareness and criticism of true crime and biographical content profiting from real tragedies without family consentIncreased discussion around social media literacy and the permanence of digital footprints among younger audiencesCompetitive gaming and reality TV show formats (Traders, Wipeout) becoming aspirational experiences for podcast audiencesStreaming platform dominance of theatrical releases and concert specials creating FOMO-driven cultural momentsCelebrity casting speculation driven by social media follows and algorithmic pattern-matching by fans
Topics
Social Media Privacy and Digital PermanenceAI-Generated Content Ethics and Environmental ImpactPrediction Markets and Political Insider TradingTrue Crime Content and Family ExploitationCompetitive Gaming and Friendship DynamicsConcert and Entertainment FOMOStreaming Platform Content StrategyCelebrity Casting SpeculationMedication Side Effects and Health ManagementPersonal Journaling and Creative PracticeFashion and Seasonal DressingTrivia Competition and Knowledge AssessmentNuclear War Anxiety and Geopolitical Uncertainty
Companies
Netflix
Offered Brooke an all-expenses-paid trip to Manchester for exclusive Harry Styles concert special filming
Snapchat
Platform where Brooke posts daily content and Connor receives notifications of her stories
Disney+
Streaming service advertising new series including Rivals and High Potential during episode
Peacock
Streaming platform where Traders reality competition show is available
Madewell
Clothing brand where Brooke purchased corduroy pants that ripped during coffee shop visit
Skims
Shapewear brand that Brooke wears under her pants
Frambridge
Retail location Brooke frequents where she encountered friend Ray
Jones on Third
Los Angeles restaurant mentioned as having curry chicken salad
Mucinex
Over-the-counter decongestant medication Connor took on empty stomach with coffee
Con Edison
Utility company Brooke pays bills to in New York City
People
Sarah J. Maas
Appearing on Call Her Daddy podcast to announce new ACOTAR book installment
Zendaya
Referenced for viral video moment with Tom Holland during interview
Tom Holland
Featured in viral video moment with Zendaya referenced by hosts
Reese Feldman
Person Connor spoke with while on Mucinex, described as special
Rob Marsi
Winner of Traders reality competition show, appeared on Tonight Show
Conan Gray
Concert performer Brooke attended with friend Emma, praised for theatrical production
Emma
Attended Conan Gray concert with Brooke
Hudson
Rumored to be cast in Emily Henry adaptation produced by J.Lo
Emily Henry
Author whose book adaptations are being produced, follows potential cast members on social media
J.Lo
Producing Emily Henry book adaptation, following potential cast members
Matt King
Trivia team member with Brooke, excels at Jeopardy-style questions
Megan
Trivia team member with Brooke and Matt King
Ray
Encountered at Frambridge, described as wealth of stories, potential podcast guest
Phoebe
Previous writing collaborator with Brooke, referenced for creative partnership
Soty
Birthday this Saturday, Brooke declined Harry Styles concert to celebrate with her
Caleb
Connor wants to text about AI-generated fruit videos
Dr. Schlossberg
Expressed disapproval of Netflix JFK series representation of family
Jack
Criticized Netflix JFK series, suggested profits should be donated
Ryan Murphy
Created Dahmer and JFK series profiting from real tragedies
Vanessa Hudgens
Referenced for controversial COVID-era comments about death acceptance
Quotes
"You need to be prepared for anyone in the world to see it. So every time you post, you need to think to yourself, it is possible that every single person in the world could see this."
Brooke•Mid-episode PSA segment
"I would not trust a word you say... once we step into the game, it's just like I don't trust a word you say."
Brooke•Traders game discussion
"You have to be the landlord of your lungs. And you have to say, rent is going up. Find your way out."
Connor•Congestion advice segment
"Insider trading on the likelihood of nuclear war. And I feel like people aren't understanding that like this is so funny, but like this is not like a survivable thing."
Connor•Prediction market discussion
"If there is even one person you don't want to see something, do not post it."
Brooke•Episode closing PSA
Full Transcript
Are we recording? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely not. I am buzzing. Never before. Is he how many episodes has this been 210? This is the 210th. Never before in all of the 209 episodes we've recorded. Have I had more that I need to speak about? Okay, that's awesome. In addition to that, I have a huge list too. I feel stressed about that. Don't worry about it, baby. Baby. Baby, come on now. Baby, I feel really stressed today. Don't feel stressed in my arms. Come on. Come on, give it to me good. Hit me with what you got right now. Let's bullet fire it off. Come on, start right now. I need you to pack it up real tight and I need you to tape it up. Do not tell me to pack it up tight. I need you to pack it real tight and I need you to send it out and through and up. Oh, cool. I have to tell you something. What? I want to give you advice. What? Learn from me. I know I'm not looking for advice. Thank you, though. I need this is advice. I need you to heed. What? It's more of a warning. I need you to heed. Is it personal for me or can apply to everyone? It could happen to you. I'm not looking for personal advice right now. I appreciate you, though. Don't worry. I'm just this is personal advice. This is something that could happen when you wake up and you feel congested. Oh, okay. No matter how- Connor, I woke up feeling really weirdly congested in one nostril. Brooke, and this is why I want you to heed this. I had forgotten about it. I want you to- I brought that up. How weird. My mom always says, like, you need to get on something right now to get the congestion out of your body so that- Pre-emptive. Because if it sits there and lives in you for a while, this is why music next is so important. It will make itself at home. That's what the music next monster was so comfortable living in there. And he had two kids and they were going off to school. They were full-blown active members of their community right in the chest. And then there's an infection that comes right behind them. So you have to evict them. You have to be the landlord of your lungs. And you have to say, rent is going up. Find your way out. Up through my boobs and out my tubes. Can I make a prediction? Yeah. You are not the landlord of your lungs right now. You have a tenant. I mean, you can hear it. You can hear it. I sound like booby the clown, you know? You have a- not a tenant. Squatter. I have a squatter, yeah. And they have squatters rights. And I'm- Yeah, you're- You know, you gotta abide by the law of the land. That's my bad. I should have done this a week ago. But I didn't. And this morning, empty stomach, I'm heading out to this thing this morning. I have two coffees. I'm gonna take a mucinex. Let me tell you- Been there, my brother. Let me tell you, if you want to be the weirdest person in the room, take a mucinex on an empty stomach and have two coffees. Oh, were you not pukey? I guess it's not a zinc base. No, I'm serious when I say that I do think that there's a little bit of math or something in mucinex. Okay. Yeah, I mean, there isn't pseudofed. Brooke, I was being such a freak and it was weird to be aware that you're being a freak, you know? I was like- I would have a very normal interaction, but then I wouldn't stop there. And this was across the board. Like, it was like, I'm trying to think of one specific- I was talking with Reese Feldman this morning. Love. Like, love of my life, you know? He's just such a special- Love of our lives. Such a special man. Do you know the video of Zendaya? And she's sitting there with Tom Hall and she's like- And he laughs at first. That's really- And then she does it again. Yeah. He doesn't see, so she overdoes it. That's how I was being with- No, it's like, I say something, it's funny. Oh, it's not Reese. And then I keep going. Okay. And then this person, someone's not listening and I'm like, I say it again, they're like, no, I heard you. Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at. So like, right now, I'm still experiencing it. I'm trying to get like as much nutrients in my body to offset the- the musey as possible, but it's from my head. That understood. Thank you for letting me know where your head is at. My head is at- in the space that there is an announcement coming out today in the form of a Caller Daddy episode. Yeah. With Sarah J. Mas and we are getting probably the next Aqatar installment. And so that could be happening like right now and I'm not on my phone and I just don't know. And so I'm shaking. And apparently- I mean- Some sleuths have discovered that there might be three books being announced. I think you don't go- you don't go- you don't seek out Alex Cooper unless you have a trilogy. I feel like I could fly. I am so excited. I just don't know what she's gonna say. I'm being fed. You are. I am being fed. I've got this, you know the book I love about the monster that's a bellhop? Mm-hmm. John. That author just posted a story that he's working on a third one of those. Good. Um, what else is- something else is happening too. I saw you post something else. I keep posting. I can't stop posting. It's just hit after hit after hit. Brooke, I know. Connors. Like no, something happened where Snapchat like subscribed me to you and I'm like- Oh. She's like one of my- she's in my list, you know, like I- yeah, every one of your stories I get as an alert on my phone. That's okay. That's- I don't know how that's happening because I'm also getting alerts that I did not subscribe to. No, and it's like Brooke Averick. Yeah, I'm in back. Snapchat is not- Snapchat is my diary. All good, man. Yeah, Snapchat is my diary. I'm obviously a fan of yours, but like Snapchat doesn't know that. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Oh, Rob, Raush doing Quinn. Yeah. That's crazy. It's just like I'm getting so much content. His little promo was funny too. He's like, and this young man kind of shows up and he's uh, he's gonna give her a hand, maybe two hands, maybe his penis. I'm- I'm- I've bottomed out on all of his snake content. Went off like that to the beginning. You bottomed out? Yeah. By bottom out, I mean went back to the bottom of his feed. Okay. Yeah. That's important for people maybe listening for the first time. Yeah. Um, my life has completely been changed since the last time I saw you because I found out how to open my creative third eye. Let me- let a bitch know how to do that, please. I'd really like that. Connor, first thing you do when you wake up, get your coffee, sit down. I want you to write three pages, stream of consciousness. Love. They're called morning pages. Okay. You know the artist's way. Yep. That's like the biggest part of the artist's way is just every morning, start by writing. Can I ask you something? You may. Is an artist's way like clowned on in the creative community as being like rich dad, poor dad, bullshit? I'm actually really not sure and I'm not doing the whole- it's like a full 12-week program that I'm not doing. I'm just taking the morning pages aspect. And when I tell you I am finally like now, you know, able to write like I used to with Phoebe after I do those three morning pages, I open my eye all by just writing three pages in the morning. Doesn't take long. It's not a big thing. Such a little thing you can do. You can literally just write like I slept poorly last night, like I'm hungry. It's like a journal- journaling thing? Yeah, it's just stream of consciousness. And you'd be surprised at what comes out. I unlocked one major epiphany the other day. Whoa. Yeah. Okay, now that's a third eye. Yeah. Now I sat down the other day to- I got two things for you. Please give them to me. Okay, I'll give them to you. Are you willing to receive? Always. Wow, I sound like a little hungry little pig. I'm breathing so hard on the mic for my congestion. It's okay. We know you're not the landlord. I'm just like, it's out of my control. She's out of my hands. Okay. So I go to the coffee shop. I said, I'll start with- and this is like without you telling me that. We are synced up today. I feel that. I need you to have lunch and then take a mueson X. You can get ahead of it. Do not become this. So I go, I'm going to go to the shop. I'm going to take out my pad. I'm going to write a gratitude journal before I begin. I was a warm up and as I sit low and behold, and this won't surprise you at all, although this was not a promise that I made to you. I made a very specific promise to you. Crawt trips out of my pants. Yep. And I'm talking cords. I'm talking corduroy. Well, gratitude journaling, which makes you kind of reconsider any sort of gratitude you'd have for your life. Why are you investing in just like really cheap pants? No, they're from Madewell. You know, Madewell quality is pretty good. Your ass is so fat. No, well, I wish it was like a positive connotation thing. I do think that like, don't think like I'm not really doing anything to have a, have a positive body change. I'm running a little less. Yeah. It's so cold. No, I said try spreading a little bit less like your, your legs. Yeah, I could. I mean, I was sitting on a bar stool. I wasn't really spreading. It's except for balance. Yeah. And you were, you were, you were not wearing your panties. I was, I am. Yeah, I'm wearing underwear. Great. I'm wearing skims. Oh, yay. Yeah. Oh, even and these are the pants? No, the pants. I'm not wearing. Okay. This was not, this was not today. This was two days ago. Now I'm sitting there. I'm like, I'm already at the coffee shop. So I'm going to stay here with my, with this new extended pair of pants. That offers me a little bit more flexibility here in the bar stool. And I'm, I get a chicken salad salad. I didn't realize it was going to be chicken salad. I just ordered chicken on my kale Caesar. It's chicken salad, which was a nice surprise. I was going to say to me, that would be an extremely pleasant surprise. And it spread very easily across the whole bowl. It had a good spread fact. I love that. Chicken salad has that. You know, they don't have chicken salad in Los Angeles. Not good. But doesn't Jones on third have chicken salad? I think they have a curry chicken salad and I don't like curry. I love curry. I know. So anyways, I take, I take, I'm eating this chicken salad. The thing about chicken salad is like, you got to make sure you get the whole fork in your mouth and don't get too confident. So I didn't get it. I missed my mouth twice. There's a young man that was on a zoom call. He's taken a zoom call at a coffee shop, which like I have qualms about. And I understand that sometimes you, it makes sense. You're going to be working there all day. You have to take one quick zoom call the whole time I was there. He was taking a zoom call. Yeah, I don't subscribe to that. And he's sitting really, he was, I think he was a little bit peeved that I had, had to choose the seat next to him. So he left his tote bag just like really close to my stool. So every time I'd get down to pee or something, like my foot would get stuck in his toe, like in the farm. And I'm like, Oh, like, sorry, I got my foot's in your toe. Oh, I'm just going to squeeze by. Your toe was in your foot. Broke like, I'm not 100% positive, but like I totally am. Cause I saw it. I missed my mouth one time with this huge chunk of chicken salad. Flew into the toe. It's in the bottom of his toe. Probably still like, it went, it went flat. Like definitely cause it was not like a viscosity of the salad was not weak to a viscosity. What? Weak to a viscosity. Oh yeah. I mean, it was clumpy, you know, so to bring it back to the clumps, as we always do, it's, it had, it had a clump factor that was really heavy. So he's, I'm thinking about this young man, but he was on a call. I had my tubes were tied. I really couldn't have let him know that there would be something waiting for him at home. Yeah. That sounds like a him problem. I mean, he had it coming, but it wasn't something that I shot out to do to him. It's something that happened to him because of the grace of God. And it's an attention versus impact type of situation. Brooke. Well said. Although I think that's, that is in defense of him, which I don't want to do. I'm trying to defend you. I mean, he wasn't intentionally, I'm going to give him a bit of a doubt cause he didn't even make eye contact with me. Okay. But it's like, control your toe. You know, keep an eye on your kid, keep an eye on your toe. Keep an eye on your toe. If your tote bag sits wide open, what could fall in? You'll never know. It, you might be susceptible to clump chicken salad. Opening where you are. It's a, it's a risk of, of toting. Speaking of totes, check this out. Hit me with that base supply bag. Whoa. You see my pens. Wow. You're really living like a Phoebe dream. I know I'm working into the girl, but I can fit up to like seven journals in a year and my laptop and my two little printers. It is a full Mary Poppins bag and my two sticker books. It's the Sula for anyone wondering. The Zula. Sula. Isn't that the woman that helps you give birth in a tub at home? That's a doula. That is exactly what you said. I'm talking about the Sula. Oh. Yeah. So that's what, that's, oh, and there's the Sula pouch, but I have a different kind of pouch that I need for that. I put my washi tapes and scissors and stuff in. Thank you. Yeah. That's the Sula. Anyway. Nice. You ready to hit, for me to hit you with two pretty severe things? Yep. Something pretty severe happened to me yesterday. First thing. This is number, severe thing, number one. Okay. It will henceforth to us and the community be known as actually, no, I don't want to call it that because I think that's actually something already, but let's just say it's not good. Okay. I get a text yesterday. Oh God. Okay. Yeah. Hi, Brooke. We have such an exciting opportunity for you. Would you want to get on a plane tomorrow? So that would be today, Wednesday. Yeah. And fly to Manchester, England to see the one night, one night only Harry Styles concert. Netflix will fly you out, everything like that. Wow. Do I want to do that? 587.8% rounded up. Yes. I want to do that. Here are the two roadblocks that I faced. There's two cats. No, not even that. One. Me. Nope. Not, not even you. Oh, come on man. One. I could have figured out the cats. I could have figured out the podcast. First roadblock was Soty's birthday is this Saturday and I would still have to be in, in Manchester for it. And she was like, I don't want to do anything for my birthday this year. And I made a pretty big stink about you're going to do something. You just sit back, relax, take a load off. I'm going to plan it, whatever. And I kind of feel like I had dropped the ball for her 30th a little bit. So I really like wanted to do something. And by something, I mean just like plan a beach day, but like something nonetheless. And it, it just would not have felt right for me to be like, I am going to head out now. Yeah. Happy birthday. So that was the one, one thing that was good. You're a good friend that was weighing on me. Two is that my passport expires in two weeks. You could have just started with that one, which in most places you need a six month buffer, but in the UK, you don't, but also like that would be pretty scary to risk a passport that expires on March 20th, yeah, especially just like with everything right now. I would say, yeah, the nuclear war would have been my number one reason not to travel abroad right now. Sure. That is well. And so one, so do his birthday. What am I supposed to do? My hands are tied to the nuclear war was kind of bugging me. It was kind of getting to me with that expired passport coming up around the corner. And so I will not be in attendance. Okay. At the Harry Styles one night, once in a lifetime, one night only event. And that's, that's something that's weighing on me pretty, pretty heavily. I do truly think there's a reason why there were so many factors blocking your entry to Harry's house. I hope that it's not something that I'll regret for the rest of my life. But I don't know. It's too, it's too soon to say, too early to say. I think I'll have a really hard time when that a concert special hits Netflix. That's what I'll say. Like I should have been there. Uh huh. I should have been, I supposed to be in the video. Like that, those kinds of vibes, you know. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough, man. I don't know what to say. I think a lot of people would do the same and a lot of people would do differently. That's a good point. A great story like Monsters Inc stays with you forever. And Disney Plus is where you'll find your next great story from the return of the award winning hit series, Rivals. Welcome to the naughtiest show on television. To the unmissable crime drama, High Potential. Gotta dead body, gotta go. A lifetime of great stories awaits. This spring on Disney Plus, 18 Plus, subscription required, T's and C's apply. So that's hard. And I just hope, you know how I always look back on the Hamilton original cast and how I never saw them and how if I have one regret in life, it's that. Although there weren't really as many roadblocks to that. But I just hope that I don't end up regretting this for the rest of my life. I don't think I will. I think I made the right choice, even though I'm completely devastated. But it will be okay. It will be okay. I mean, these things pass. And I'm excited for SOTY's birthday. Second thing that I just wanted to touch on really quickly is just a PSA to the general public. Something I've learned recently is that if you post something on the internet, doesn't matter where, doesn't matter if you think no one's going to see this. You need to be prepared for anyone in the world to see it. So every time you post, you need to think to yourself, it is possible that every single person in the world could see this. And you have to ask yourself, am I okay with this? If you are, go ahead and post that for me. If you're not okay with even one person seeing it, maybe hold off on it. Just a moment. Just a moment. This is something that I learned. Did you learn this last week on last week's episode? And I just wanted to share that now if I have even an inch of a doubt about something, it's not getting posted. Then that's how I'm living my life moving forward. I like that. I think that's good. Rule of thumb. Anyone can see anything if it's on the internet. And I didn't think you would see that. It's not, unfortunately, as much as I want it to be. It's not really about excuse when you're posting publicly. Oh my gosh, which actually reminds me. I went to Frambridge over the weekend. Yeah. And Ray was there. Oh, how is he? He said, he was like, thanks for bringing me up. I'm a wealth of stories. I really think that we maybe try to tap into him when you're in town. Oh my gosh. We have him on the first segment. I would love that. He shared some intro to some of the stories. And I was like, oh, I just hold that thought. Because this does sound so interesting. But it was so funny. Because I go to Frambridge, obviously, I frequent. And that was my first time seeing him. And I was like, I was genuinely very scared to run into you because I feel like I blew up your spot. People were dressed up as you for Halloween. You know, I was so tickled by the girl that dressed up as you were. You love Ray. I sent her Phoebe. Yeah. Oh, you did? That is too sweet. It just felt like really amazing to me that someone is that invested. Yeah. No, me too. And so that is so sweet, Brooke. And hey, any time. I had another story from the weekend that I was going to tell you two quick things, actually. Uno. I have been really seeking out like when I go out on the town now, like I want to boogie. Like I forgot, like I enjoy getting down, you know, totally. For a while, I thought maybe I'm a sitter. Like I just, I really don't want to go unless because they're like a base camp for people to sit. Really enjoy. Now I figured out more of a dancer. I did you not always know that? No, I knew I like to dance like at a wedding and stuff. I'm happy to be first in this in the on the dance floor. But I really like kind of grooving it, you know, like I know the songs. I want to dance a little bit. And so I'm dancing at this bar and it wasn't like a bar bar. It was kind of like, like you knew every song. It was like, I'm just dancing. I'm out like that kind of music. And I'm sitting there. I'm kind of grooving and I was really having fun. And then later on in the night, there was like a corner of girls. They were on like a bachelor at trip and this girl comes over and goes, I love like, and I'm getting ready to be like, oh, like the way she's like, I love that you just don't care at all what people think. It's so she moves in her own way by the kooks. Great song. Yeah, I agree. But I do care a lot what people think. And for her to deliver that is like a, wow, you really like you're so brave. Yeah, it is a microaggression for sure. Well, it's such a microaggression to be like, I love that you don't care what people think. I do. I care deeply what people think. And now I want to go home. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. What did I look like out there? Yeah, you will never catch me dancing. I'm a sitter like through and through and through to my bones. You jump. I'm not even 1% at answer. You jump. Huh? I've seen you bounce. No, you haven't. Like, slowly, like to the beat. I've seen you dance and say, woo. I could say woo. I wouldn't call what I do dancing. It's more of just like, I will, I will move a little bit if I have to. But I am so, I have no rhythm. And I'm just so embarrassed by it that thinking of anyone like seeing that because when you look at someone and they have no rhythm, it's a tough look, you know? Well, I think that that's probably POV. You're that girl watching me dance. No, you have rhythm. I don't. I thought I had rhythm at one point in my life. I've lost it. No, you have. The Emperor needs to find his new groove. Can you start calling me the Emperor? Let's see if you earn it by the end of the episode. Okay. No. Fair. Yeah. I should earn it. And two, the second place I danced this week and I went and saw Conan Gray in concert. He was such a treat. You know that that's going to be like the new, that's, I mean, not the new, but like, you know, he's going to be the biggest star on the planet. What have I been saying about Conan Gray? No, I mean, I've obviously, I've been a fan too, but like you, you were seeing him and it was a theatrical performance. The production that went into his show, his live show, was so otherworldly. And I didn't know our friend Emma was going to be there too. And I saw Emma and it was such, it was so much fun. Yeah. Got to hang out after the show. We had such a good time. It was just such a, wow. Have the opportunity to see Conan in any concert. You should definitely. Obviously very jealous. Have you heard his song, The Winner? Yes. That to me, I want everyone to press pause on this episode and give that a listen. It's full body chills every time. It was also amazing because I've, the arena that he performed tonight only seen like hockey games in. Oh. And to see him sell out the same arena as a hockey match or hockey, hockey match? I think game, honestly. A game of hockey, a match of hockey? I think hockey, hockey game. Give it. Hey man, who gives a rip? Who gives? It was a, so many people and it might be a match. It might be a hockey match. Anyway, it was really good. So that was really fun. Yeah. He's incredible. I love the guy. And I feel like deeply connected to him because just like the lyrics, honestly, like the way he writes about just like avoidance and nausea and deep, deep unrequited love. Like, yeah. Unrequited? Yeah. I thought it was unrequited. Unrequited? Yeah. It's unrequited. What? Right? Yeah. Can we just have someone, can we have them say it? Can I hear, can I get a second opinion? I believe you, Brooke, with my whole heart. I just need to hear someone else say it. I get it. Unrequited. Whoa! I'm so glad that this has never come up. I'm shocked that it has. I've never said unrequited before. It does not sound right. It is unrequited, yeah. My gosh. Well, and what does that mean? What does it mean? Yeah. Oh, like not returned. Sad. Oh, so sad. It's like unrequited. It's like almost like unrequited. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. I have a cavity. Damn. You know I never had one. Yeah. I know. You tell me every time I have one of my 11 cavities, which is so funny because I don't eat like any candy. I brush my teeth constantly. I'm flossing like it's nobody's. It is genetics. I don't floss. When people are, when people leave a situation and they're like, I'm so worried that my breast tank and then I always tell them like, don't worry. Like no one is remembering it. Just so you know, if I meet someone in your breast, things like you are now stinky breath to me for the rest of your day. I know. Even if every other interaction we have is just minty fresh, beautiful smell on your body. You are stinky cavernous. It's a hard one. It's a hard one. No, like I don't shake it. I remember that for the rest of my life. I know. I know. I know. You know, I have an issue with smells. I know. And I have an issue with sounds as well. I know that too. And and sight. I know that. And I don't love how things feel sometimes. I agree. The texture of them. Yeah. Senses are tough. What is it? Am I missing any touch taste? I don't think I'm super sensitive to taste. Okay. So maybe that's my one. Whatever the opposite of an Achilles heel is. I think yeah, I think scent is my and sent in sound. Yeah. Well, well, I just sounded like I have a disease. What was I going to say about it? It doesn't matter. About breath. Yeah, the breath. It doesn't matter. Here's what I'll say. What? So Rob won traders. Yes. Which is crazy because when you DM him like, Hey, can you come on the podcast? Like he had already won. Like he knew that. Yeah. We're not getting him champ. Well, he was on the tonight show last night. Dude, I think that the ship has left the harbor. Yeah. That's something I'm coming in terms to with. He said, he said, yes, I would love to. I think that it was a formality, which I appreciate more than life itself, but we won't be seeing Rob anytime soon. I mean, the guy's got a busy schedule. His guy has completely blown up 10 to 15 in the face. Talk about someone that's absolutely let themselves go. Do you don't watch right? You didn't watch. I started and then I got obviously sidetracked. Here's what I'll say about this. The guy was a trader through and through from the very beginning. He played the game and he played like a trader and I am done hearing people shit on him for playing the game. What are people saying? People are just like, he's a snake. That's the whole thing. Of course he was. Yeah. People are like angry with him because he really fucked people over at the end, as is the game. But like the guy played probably the best game I've seen. I would be really concerned about people having actual visceral feelings about someone playing the game. Well, there's visceral feelings about it. It pisses me off. The guy. I mean, I just would play the game. I would absolutely love to be in a situation where you get rewarded by being manipulative. I think you should. I like 1000% and I've thought about this like daydream about it of us both being on traders. Brooke, my God. And you're obviously a trader and I'm a faithful and like I'm so sorry Connor. Like I can't be your ally. Like I wouldn't trust a word you said and I would say that in my confessionals too. What? I would not trust you. Although if you're a trader and I'm a faithful and I am your ally, you would keep me in the game. You would advocate for me. You are evil. Well, I know you're a trader through and through. No, what if I wasn't a trader? I know you are. Okay, so now we'll never get cast because now. No, I mean, you might not be, but like to me, like I just can't trust a word you say. What the fuck? What do you mean? You just said you're grateful that there's a game you can lie and manipulate your way through. I don't do that IRL. That's something I'm doing day to day. What do you mean? You don't trust a word I say. I'm talking about in the game. Oh my gosh. We are in the game right now. Once we step into the game, it's just like I don't trust a word you say. Oh my gosh. I'm just like, this has changed the way I look at you outside of the game. No. We've just got done with talking about how it's a game. I feel like you just absolutely entrapped me at the corner cope. No, I am playing a faithful game. Oh my God. You're scary. No, I'm not. You're scary. You're scaring me. You're gaslighting me. You're scaring me. You're gaslighting me because you're, yeah, I'm not doing this. No, I'm not gaslighting you. You are. You're scaring me. I'm taking a back. You have spoken about how you want to be a traitor, how you're a great manipulator, how you're a liar. Now I'm telling you that I would know that you're lying to me most likely and I'm not going to trust you and now you're blaming me. No. Yes. Oh, absolutely. I wish there was someone else in the room. Oh, absolutely. I'm having a wild, wild, out of touch fantasy about one day being cast and that would be so fun to act. And you're saying, I don't trust a word you say. You should. I, okay, picture this. Picture this for me. We're in the game. We're in the castle. You're a traitor. You tell me with your masterful acting and manipulation skills, Brooke, I promise you I'm a faithful. I'm supposed to believe that. Do you just expect me to believe that? And I'm going to wring your neck. You expect me to believe that? I would. Yeah. No. Peacock do not pass two of us. If you killed me, I'd never forgive you. The first double Hama said, it's like we actually both died. And oh, I hope, and you know there's traitor on traitor crime, right? Yes. If I was a traitor and you were a traitor, I would hope that there would not be any traitor on traitor crime. That's what I'll say. I would rather lose than have traitor on traitor between us. You know what? And you think that before you go in, like I am going to be a team with my traitors, but shit happens. No, not like that. You can't control the other traitors. My family can no longer play putt putt. We can no longer play monopoly because things got too heated. I know that it's you're able to lose yourself in a game. You can lose yourself. You can lose yourself. I'm very competitive. And obviously I like winning, but not at the cost of my friendships. At the cost of my family, sure. Friendships, no. Okay. But I do think like, and I don't mean to like elevate myself, like in your life, but I do think we have more of that like family bond, like the sibling, the sibling connection. Like to me, I could be mean to you because it's like family vibe. Yes. So like I wouldn't worry about hurting your feelings in the same way I would another friend. Trust is completely, trust is completely different than hurting your feeling. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm stricken. I would not trust you in a game of manipulation. You just call me a rat. What did we just talk about about being a rat or snake in the game of traders? I'm not faulting you for playing the game. Yeah. Okay. You're right. I'm not faulting you, but at the same time, I'm not going to trust you either. I'm playing my game. You're playing yours. That's fair. I don't hold it against you. You're playing the game. That's real crazy. I actually like don't think I can do this actually. I'm telling you, it's like, it's, it's once you get in there, it's really. No, I mean, bro, we're, we're here. I'm talking to you virtually and I'm getting, I'm about to have to take my, my top layer off because I'm sweating. I know it's really, I, imagine once you get to that round table and everyone's coming for each other and you have to defend yourself. That's my bread and butter though. Like that's when, when we're like calling people off or stuff like that is so much fun. Like that's my favorite part. You know, when everyone's like, I would hate to be called out though. Do you ever play mafia with your friends? Yes, I love my yeah, me too. Mafia is so much fun, but it's the same thing. You're getting in, you're like, my like, my friends have gotten a noise complaint from their neighbor and they live in a standalone house because I was like, no, no, you, that's bullshit. I saw you blink. You know, like I, I have a pretty good read on people. I think you disagree. I'm not talking about the blinking mafia. I'm talking about the one where everyone goes to sleep and then you get tapped, you know, the one that's like traders. Yeah, no, I know what you're talking about. Okay. Secret Hitler. Pretty much. Yeah. Um, I've become more of a fishbowl guy myself, but I get really competitive with that too. Like to the point where it's like, I have to come downstairs in the morning and like be like, hi, how are you guys? Like, had everyone sleep and like the night before I'm like, that was the fucking grinch. You piece of shit. Like how are we supposed to know that? Yeah, you got to walk with your knees higher, you know, on your tip toes and kind of move your arms like Jack Sparrow. I totally get you. I'm never in the mood to play fishbowl, but then whenever we start, I'm always really into it. I'm never in the mood to do this setup. Yeah. Once it starts and I can sit down and plug and play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agree. I'm also not in the mood to lose. Like I'm just never going to be in the mood to lose. Like I really want my team to be locked in. If I see someone on their phone during fishbowl, I'm really, really on your neck. Yeah. I get that. No, I'm a game player. Me broke me too. And that's what I love about us. We really do need to be put in something together because I think that that would be, I would love truly to do some sort of traders like show. I would do, I would also, I wouldn't pass up like that thing that obstacle course was over the mud. Wipe out. Wipe out. You know, you know, I was offered that. Oh my gosh. Like I would have to have an aura frame playing of you in the wipe out course for the rest of my days. It would be hung up like Harry Potter moving photos and it would be you getting smacked by that huge hand. It's not like I don't have the length to reach it. Like the obstacle. I want to see you jump on those balls across the moat. I don't want my, I like, I would have to be wearing pants. That's my thing. I really don't like having my legs out. But if they were to offer me some sort of full body suit, I could do it. Yeah, I'm looking at my notes. Did I say everything? Oh, no, I didn't. But you go ahead. Why don't you, I have some stuff that like pertinent stuff that isn't personal. Okay, but also speaking of shows that we could go on, this one we couldn't go on due to dumb. But due to dumb, due to dumb, pop culture, Jeopardy is, I watched the first episode, you know, it's the one with the Colin Joest hosts. And I got so many right that I put a team together. Yeah. Me, Matt King, Megan, and I was like, we're full sending this. We're, I mean, that's father's unholy spirit. That's the trifecta. Yeah, we are doing this. And then I was hanging out with Matt the other night during stationary club. Yeah. And we watched an episode after I'm telling him I'm so good, like I'm going to be an asset to the team, blah, blah, blah. Couldn't get one. Couldn't get one. But Matt on the other hand, you've never seen anything like it. Well, you know, I go to trivia every time I'm in LA. Where? I don't want to blow up the spot because really it was like showbacks last time. And people cheat, which really upsets me because it's like, if we don't have honesty during trivia, like where, where do we like nothing's sake? Where can we have honesty? Like in this day and age, you're really shazamming a song. Yeah. Not right. You know, it ain't right. I agree. You need to hold yourself to the standard. Yeah. And I really crushed. They did. They did Oscar award winning movies and they zoomed in really close on the poster, the art. And I got nine out of 11 of them. Wow. Like Dunkirk Dunkirk was one and like everywhere, everything all at once. And it was like zoomed in on Jamie Lee Curtis. Like I like got it, you know, I was able to do really well at that one episode because they had Broadway as a category and then Tik Tok and also friends. So I was like hit after hit after hit. And then I couldn't get anything from any of the other episodes. So I withdrew from my team. But I still hope Matt goes on one day. I think Matt could. Oh, he absolutely could. It was amazing to watch. He's just, he's got a brain that's working overtime in specific ways. Did you watch SNL? No. Okay. Well, I watched for the first time in a very, very, very long time because it was Connor Story hosting. Right. I was at Conan. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. First of all, he like truly his acting, like even in these sketches, like he brings substance to something that you don't think can have substance. Like it is, he's, his acting is out of this world. Like I think he is going to be like the biggest star that we've seen in our lifetime. I wish more than anything SNL could have given him a little bit more to work with. Anything, almost anything to work with. And that's, that's what I will say about that. I know, I know you friends in high places and shit like that. And, and I have nothing but respect for everything. And it's just, I wish they gave him all of them. Feedback is important. Feedback is important. They gave him, there was one good one, an ice skating one that Hudson made an appearance in. I saw that. I saw that. And that was good. Good. That was fair. That was great. That was, yeah. That was good. I haven't caught up yet, but that was when I saw it. I was like, oh, this is really good. Sweet. Totally. And you know, I'm not, not, oh, they're so precious. Not expecting every, oh, they're so, I can't even, like it's so, so stupid. I would love them so much. They're so great. So I'll picture Hudson with Rob this morning. I hope it all ends soon. I can't take it anymore. Rob who? Roush. Oh, don't tell me a picture of Hudson with Rob Roush. Um, Hudson, I just saw is being cast in Emily Henry's new adaptation produced by J.Lo. Well, that is just speculation because J.Lo and Emily Henry followed Hudson. Hudson. That's, but this, this happens every single time Emily Henry follows someone. She like blows up that like they're being cast and it's usually not the case. So I'm not going to get my hopes up yet, but if we do get Hudson in an Emily Henry adaptation, I'm going to run out in an entire floor of a hospital just for me to have my pick of rooms for when the time comes. Appreciate it. It's, I think that you should probably start looking into booking your stay because it's, I think it's going to, I mean, it's pretty two for two at this point. I think all things are very intentional, especially from the J.Lo side. I think Emily's very kind soul. No one speculated that I was acting in anything when she followed me. I do want to flag. Me either. Oh yeah. But you're an author. Thank you for saying that. So that make your, I mean, you guys are peers in the space, which is so sweet. Yeah, it's crazy. Well, I guess watch the space, but they move pretty quickly over there. J.Lo doesn't really wait around for anybody. That's the one Emily Henry book I haven't read is the one. Oh, you better get to it. Better get to it before ACOTAR drops and then you're neat. I'm stressed. I'm so backlogged. You're going to be bulls deep in ACOTAR for a while. I'm still not done the first question city book. It's, it's tougher than I want it to be. There, at least there's only two more on their each 800 pages. Yeah. Here's something else I'll say that's been affecting my life. Negatively, I would say. Oh, net negative. AI is bad. Yes. Sometimes I get confused. Oh, I know. And like, please, like I'm genuinely trying to learn like, truly I am. I don't under like some of my eyes was much worse than others. Correct? Yes. Yes. So how bad is it? And I'm being genuine. There are these videos on my free page that I can't avoid anymore. And they, I'm sure some of you have been privy to them as well. They are fruits, but personified with the, and sexualized as well. The female fruits, I'm talking Appleina. I saw, I saw broccoli with a huge rack. Yeah. I'm talking Appleina, banana, Appleina, banana, mango. I think it's mangalina as well. I'm talking like massive racks. And they're all sexual videos of these fruits, cheating on each other, having really dramatic affairs. Like soap, they're basically soap opera with personified, sexualized fruit. And they're AI generated, bad. I acknowledge that. I can't stop. I can't stop watching them. Like I've fallen victim to like what they want, which is like the brain rot that sucks you in. How bad is it that I'm like watching them? Like is me giving these views, which I am fortunately like it's something in my brain is, is what is now wired to these videos, which is just what they want. They've got me right where they want me. Yes. How bad is it that I'm giving views? Like I understand the production of these videos is bad. That's what I get. But is watching them equally is bad too? Like, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say this and I'm not, I'm not like coming at you at all. I just think that like demand, supply and demand creates. Yeah. Like in watching it would read to them as like, Oh, they want more of these. But I think they're going to do it regardless. Like they're just churning these out. It's just crazy that like the white rhino will go extinct because I'm watching a celery stalk cheat on an apple. You know, it's like, Yeah. Black, it's black mirror through and through. Yeah. There's, I mean, there's so much, but like this is just like, this one feels so stupid. But there's the fact that there's real repercussions of these fake story lines of fruits, like having affairs is really something. And I feel like we're empty foodie boys right now talking about this. Like we're, I actually think that you're like, you, there was a lot to what you just said. And it honestly like affected. I know it wasn't very succinct, but it is like pretty eye-opening. And I also just saw, and this is like shifting gears a little bit and we can shift back to like fruits having sex shortly. But like, I just saw that there's, you like, you like to gamble, right? You'd like, I love blackjack. So there's all these apps now, Holly market, Cal, she, all these things were like from your phone, you could, it started as like sports betting. And then now it's like, how quickly we'll will, or like who will be, who is bad bunny going to bring out as like a guest on the Super Bowl show, you know, like all these things and people create these things that could happen. And then people bet and then it sometimes it's like six options you can pick from. It's like, yeah, like this. So someone created one. And it was like the likelihood of nuclear war. And it opened up to the politicians choosing the options. And so they were allowed to inside trade on the nuclear war that we're about to have, even though they are the ones calling the shots. Is that making sense? Am I saying that? That is the most black, that's more black mirror than fruit having sex contributing to the extinction of the white rhino. Insider trading on the likelihood of nuclear war. And I feel like people aren't understanding that like this is so funny, but like this is not like a survivable thing. Like like a nuclear fallout is like, there's TV shows about it. We're so lucky we have this podcast. Like I really want to just like, this podcast is genuinely akin to watching wipeout. It should be like a monkey symbol. What? Like brain rot? Yeah, it should just be like it like turn it off. I actually don't want to talk about nuclear war. I was going to say like, I can't think of like the world being wiped out right now. It's just like it would make sense with like everything. Yeah. It's not good. And you know what? Quote us on that. Yeah. If anyone's waiting, go ahead and quote us on that. If anyone's waiting on us to let out our statement about our stance on the nuclear war, we think it's bad. I need to text Caleb about the fruits. Yeah. Caleb would know. Yeah. I have something to tell you. Yeah. I know the nuclear war is on the horizon, but just don't rush the process. If February didn't, March, April, May. Oh, nice. That's reminding me of this ominous fortune I got in my fortune cookie last night. Telling me that I need to trust everything that happens this year. Which I don't like. Like why do I need to? What's going to happen that I need to just trust in? Oh my gosh. Yikes. Which I don't care. Yeah, I didn't care for that. That's okay. You're going to be visited by three spirits though. Would you want that? Yeah. I like don't love living alone, but I would love if it was three spirits and they could like, it's like they're not in my way and they're not using any dishes. Oh, but they have to take me to my past and my future. Yikes. I forgot about that. I do not want to go to my future ever. I was really seriously thinking the three spirits we're going to sit with and watch a movie with. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you all have like excursions and stuff. No, we full blown have stuff to take care of. Yeah. Oh wait. So was one of the three spirits the present day? Yeah, the ghosts of past, present and future. What did the present day one do? Like did he die earlier today? Why is he a ghost already? I'd be like, you just got here. You don't know shit. I kind of forget the concept. I think he was just like reflecting on life and all of the mistakes he's made and like what he could have done if he made different choices. Right. Right. Right. Her husband died. Crap. But it's like she's really like it's so, I'm talking about the Krispy Kreme woman. Oh yeah, we should. It's really, it's like, I don't know the word that I'm looking for, but like I guess when you get to an age, like she's pretty matter of fact about it. Yeah. She's just like I loved him so much and it was his time and now I'm a widow and it's just like, of course it's tragic, but it's also like not. It's just like. You just sounded like Vanessa Hudgens during COVID. Yeah. Oh my. People are going to die. They are at the end of their lives and it's just like the way that she's accepted it is almost like a little bit healing the way she's kind of looking at death. It's admirable. It's just like, yeah, I loved him and our life was amazing together and he was sick. But now he's gone. So I've been watching her videos. She's like vlogging on like life as a widow. Yeah. Mama Mia pizzeria. Huh? I said, Mama Mia pizzeria and it wasn't necessarily appropriate right there, but you know, it's so weird given everything that we just talked about. What? There was a blood moon last night and it said like once every 10,000 years, but I feel like there was like six this month. There's always something happening that's supposed to happen every 10,000 years, but I've already experienced it like eight times. Do you know that like when I was a kid and they were like, this is the only time you'll see this comments in your lifetime. The way that I was like, okay, everyone up three in the morning. I woke up my whole family. I said, this is really something that we need to be outside paying attention to. I was, I was gathering the troops. I was like texting my neighbors, everyone up. We got to see this. It's the only time we're going to see Haley's comment. I saw Haley's comment and I think that that one, and who care? You know, it's like Haley's like, what does Haley's comment have to do with like my day to day? Like, well, what's scary to me is that when things actually are once in a lifetime and you experience them, that's it. It's over. Never again in your life. I hope you experience that in a way that you remember. Like it's just weird that Haley, I saw Haley's comment when I was in sixth grade or something. And then today I had to pay my con Edison bill. What's the correlation? I don't know. I just feel like since I woke up and saw Haley's comment, like, um, someone that saw that with my own eyes, like maybe I should get some money off my electricity bill. Okay. I do want to say really quickly, this is like a good time for me to say this. I kept watching JFK, the love story thing. Yeah. I'm an episode behind. So one, um, Dr. Schlossberg has let us know that he doesn't love the show, the representation of the family. I kept watching Jack. Yeah. I have fallen out of love. I have fallen out of love for the story because of what Jack said. That I think that played into it. One, Sarah Pigeon, brilliant. I'm kind of, some of the acting is kind of giving hallmark movie. I actually think that like some of the characters, like with the, with Darrell Hanna, I was like, there's this, is this woman like a horrible actress or what? And then I looked up like Darrell Hanna and I was like, Oh no, she's actually so good. Yeah. So I think a lot of it is just these people are like really good actors. Okay. But the people are, were weird. Um, and I think Jack doesn't like the show. Like I wouldn't either if I were him. That for sure. But yeah, I mean, it goes back to what I said about like your family, like the Dahmer thing. Like those were real people that got murdered. And now Ryan Murphy is making a ton of money off the story of your brother or your father or your sibling, like whatever was murdered. No, yeah. Jack said like donate the money, which like, obviously they're not going to, but that would be a great solution. I do like the show. It's good. I know it is good. Especially right now, you know, it's been raining just about every day in New York City. And so it's been a good kind of cavernous time for me here. It is going to be, Brooke, it was 20 degrees this morning. It is going to be 75 next week. It's because of the fricking fruit videos. It's because of the fruit videos. Thank you, fruit video. That's crazy. Yeah. No, I mean, everyone's about to get as sick as I am. Uh, I want it to be really nice when I come to New York next month, but I also want to be able to wear these gorgeous boots that are more of a like cold weather vibe. I'm really enjoying getting dressed up. The jacket piece is kind of making me lose it, but like, this hybrid part where you can wear light sweater and you can also wear like a little coat over top. Very nice. It's fleeting because soon I'll be smelling pee. I'll be sweating in my jorts and I'll be cutting my underwear off at the US open bathroom. Yeah. And putting it into the trash. Yeah. Treasure these times. Oh, you don't know what you got. So it's gone and they literally paved the paradise and they put up a parking lot, which is disappointing. It's disappointing. Everyone reminded you appreciate the fact that you can breathe right now if you can. And then remember that trust the process. Trust everything that happens to you this year. This year. Because if February didn't March, April, May, wait, February didn't March, April, May. And we will leave you with that and an additional reminder that if there is even one person you don't want to see something, do not post it. Thanks so much. Goodbye. Bye.