PMS 2.0 1556 - Chris Paul, PK Subban, Iman Shumpert, Pete Thamel, Jack Hughes, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this the most thrilling Tuesday May 19th, 2026. This sports program begins now. Sports are the greatest and listen whenever you hear the words a game and a seven put together you expect electricity and the NHL delivered last night in a huge way as the Canadians of Montreal punch their ticket to the Eastern Conference finals to take on the Carolina Hurricanes as they beat the Buffalo Sabres in Buffalo. Now listen there was certainly a fight back okay this is once two-oh game and a fight back then this thing gets to overtime and that blip a little bit of a grrr kind of becomes the game winner the series seeker. Newhoff becomes the second player in NHL history to have game seven goals to win a series in the same playoff run in the history of the NHL. Montréal the buzzsaw is going to be on display in the Eastern Conference finals against a team that everybody forgets they're even playing because they haven't lost the damn game in the playoff. Carolina Hurricanes have been chilling resting up getting ready for it they'll take on Montréal and then tomorrow night in the west the Colorado Avalanche will host the Vegas Golden Knights whenever you think of a game seven that is exactly what you think of whenever you think of playoff hockey that is exactly what you think of and this one is about to be an absolute wagon we'll talk to P.K. Subban. Bill Homer. Yeah. Yeah. He's probably real jacked about what happened. Super. Can't wait to catch up with him he'll be at 12.35 also uh Jack Hughes. John Balls. Jack Hughes will be here today 145 obviously Olympic gold medalist American hero New Jersey devil Jack Hughes of the Hughes hockey family obviously American legends will join us at 145. We also obviously have to talk about the double overtime game of the Goliaths yesterday in the Western Conference finals to kick off what the NBA has been having building for seemingly years now this Wemby guy all right hey we're learning more and more about him this guy hangs with monks this guy hangs with Kevin Garnett this guy pulls up from the logo in overtime down three casual first one he put up all night no big deal biggest moment let me go ahead and splash this thing I'm taller than you I can shoot better than you and oh yeah you give me in the paint I can go to absolute work now what I think it's underestimated about this particular alien here this human uh is you know he plays chess in the city okay and when he gives answers he's one with the universe he's part of this new generation that seemingly you know a lot jersey share and everybody kind of gets along I think what people this guy's a killer this guy is a stone cold killer that the elbow to the jaw should have been a big warning for everybody about who he is I think we're just kind of learning about this particular player I think we're excited about the possibilities of this guy and what he could become in the NBA they're already talking about like oh well here it is this is the net we had obviously the runs of the past and it gets Jordan and LeBron com shout out to LeBron and then now Wemby is here he's about to carry this entire thing hasn't won yet but boy last night looked like something special from the future what he is is taller tougher more dynamic and also petty he hates that guy that looks a lot like him but it's the Caucasian version Chad Holmgren is a guy that I don't think this Wemby guy really enjoys at all so it seems like you think about who he is as a competitor all the elites you know you think about the elite athletes at the top of the board all of them psychos competitive spirit psychos okay that's the reason that's why they're that's why I lift all of them weights that's a way when they wake up so early that's why they watch so much film that's why everything is being finely tuned because they are psycho competitive athletes that drive them to be the best we know who they are you start going around sports you know exactly who we're talking about it started being classified as the Mamba mentality and I think Kobe is certainly one of those people Michael Jordan Peyton Manning Tom Brady Serena Williams Tiger Woods you go at the top their psychos Wayne Gretzky these psychos okay they're committing everything in their being to being great and they will stop it nothing to win it feels like people don't think Wemby's like that because he's French sure I think that certainly is a part of it that is a big part of it but whenever you start lining up what last night was Chad Holmgren that's going back to Team USA taking on Team France I guess there are some clips coming out of Wemby when he was 17 years old watching Chet get the trophy and him being bummed out in there SGA wins the MVP over him this guy's best defensive player on the planet unanimous vote and also on the offensive side is able to do it he's the most valuable person to his team I think he would be able to argue that SGA wins back to back SGA also very good but Wemby having to watch SGA get his trophy also Chad Holmgren's on the other side and they got a banner hanging up there and there's six and a half point dogs it felt like that was the checklist for Wemby to go ahead and have a huge night and he did he's exactly I think what we hope he is I think this is a great thing for hoops but last night in general double overtime absolutely bonkers show Caruso's going crazy coaching's at a high level it was spectacular nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler's here this is what Adam Silver would go into a lab and try to create if you could especially with all the hype coming in hey these are the two teams we've been talking about this since before the playoffs even it's like is it going to be the alien or is it going to be this Oklahoma City team that is seemingly in the middle of a dynasty run right now and they are incredibly deep then we finally get to it in game one okay we got game seven vibes in game one we go double overtime and we got the superstars point I mean it was I was a wet dream I soon for Adam Silver in the NBA I assume that is how they want the bed feeling last yeah really doesn't match up really live up to the expectations and just watching that game probably when I say late fourth quarter I'm like this is one of the best basketball games I've ever watched and it was probably five six more moments that kind of had you jumping up off the couch after that from both sides you know okay see every time you thought you know the Spurs would kind of take full control of the game okay see fought back Caruso hit it three J. Will hit it through who was huge in his return to the Thunder and it low over 30 minutes but he was dominant Caruso he was unbelievable I know Wimby dominated by him taking on that task now look you do have to look at the big Caucasian that's the alien on your team like hey how about you guard the other alien on their team so guys for questions about that but he's fascinating Caruso what's on Wimby a couple times a lot of payout okay interesting okay Caruso and he did I mean he did the best he could do he held it down Caruso looked like he was worth 250 million dollars to Thunder last night he was unbelievable but yeah Wimby he's the guy and he's the guy who has that gold potential you talk about the creams of the past you talk about Jordan you talk about LeBron like Wimby has had these expectations like you said he hasn't won it yet this is the West Crimes finals but that performance was unbelievable he only had what three blocks but it seems like his just his impact when he's on the court they put the stats up when he's on the court it's unbelievable I remember SGA late in the fourth court he had like a little bunny wide open floater Wimby didn't even jump I think he was on the other side of paint you can just see he wasn't really comfortable just because he's on the court that's the impact that he has on both sides of the court it's unbelievable I can't wait to see the rest of this series and what it has for us. Yeah and you talk about high level basketball I remember some genius stuff going it felt like it was hey we got some real cooking going on with both sides high level basketball cannot wait to catch up with Chris Paul about it but whenever you think about Wimby going in there and delivering in that way it's like this guy's gonna be must watch he understands the moment you know it's very obvious he understands the moment we saw the Olympics a little bit whenever he was on France in France taken on Team USA obviously you see him as him going in there understanding the moment and feeding off of all of it yeah like you I like that's old school pettiness that I think you need I played 48 minutes too so like during the season he averaged 30 minutes so that was one of my concerns yeah okay now you get to the playoffs now you're gonna have games you're gonna have battles especially we all saw this thunder matchup coming you're gonna have to play 40 plus minutes a night so for him to grind it out double overtime and be dominant throughout that was unbelievable let's go to one half of the hammer died Cowboys AP Tom it's a yeah when moves obviously unbelievable but also Harper and Castle all three of them the first threesome I believe 22 were under to have it all three of them had a double double the lights were not too bright for these guys they are so young and they were just they didn't give a shit about any of it yeah talking about how young they are there it is I think their average age is like 22 as a whole so whenever you talk about a young team finding their own and growing into who they want to become it's happening in front of us now this is where basketball players and teams become legendary the playoffs that is why some of these players that don't get a lot of playoff minutes really kind of go into obscurity because you're not really known the playoffs is its own season teams become stories legends are made during the playoffs this is when big moments happen and when we had all the hype and the folklore going into this and this team young is just going to be able to go ahead and all of them showed up and how young they are just tells us well we got a electrifying basketball for the next 20 years let's go to the talkstable at Boston corner and Ty Schmidt con man when being the dream and you are quickly oh yeah I think you are quickly becoming uh this guy might actually never lose again which should be a conversation you know is that too much in the moment are we overreacting right now con man I don't know because when we're talking about the moment like you mentioned it you know Bryce Harper kind of brought it up to us kind of owning the moment I don't know if we've ever seen a guy his age own the moment on a basketball court the way he did yesterday though the step in three right here was one of the most like ridiculous shots I think I've ever seen in this guy's 22 like we're talking about someone who sure if he was five years into his career maybe this wasn't his first conference finals that would be one thing but it's his first conference finals his first game in the conference finals and he does that on you know MVP night you mentioned it like he really is just a freak and it might be the greatest young core in the history of the NBA like there's a reason the NBA lottery is now set up where you can't have a back-to-back-to-back draft with Wemby to Castle to Harper because that is what they built and Devin Vasell is on there I think he led the team in minutes he blocked Chet Holmgren at the rim in double overtime yeah late and that basically sealed the deal but to be honest if I'm LeBron James I'm real worried when he's going to title oh I'm real worried I'm 41 he is 41 and I'm real worried that when he gets a title at 22 and then all of a sudden this guy only needs four more and he's passing me already honestly if I'm LeBron in my head I'm going I gotta get to San Antonio I'm going to San Antonio now to go play with this guy because why wouldn't you if if you're watching this how could you not want to be a part of it like sure you Deba mentioned you had three blocks watching SGA in the first half trying to figure out how to play with Wemby on the court was interesting I forget how many points he had at half but it wasn't many it wasn't MVP you know SGA and just seeing what Wemby does as a presence like Caruso had 30 points and it felt like that's more so why they had in-plane defense on Wemby because what Caruso could do on offense with him on the court but it was ridiculous to watch that was the best possible I'm just kind of piecing this together now and I don't like that my brain just did that but huge night for French-speaking people sure oh yeah I mean it was a huge yeah he also speaks English though and his English is very good no and obviously people in Montreal speak English somewhere I assume there but last night was a lot of messy man wasn't it no it was hey but you know we can give that we can give them that we don't get that in sports much do we no since like Zizou and Thierry we're playing for the French soccer team I don't think there's a lot of like hey French-speaking people are really crushing sports right now no definitely not and I mean it's kind of just the Canadians and then when you have a guy like Wemby come out of nowhere and you know maybe he was thinking that too he's like and I didn't see it we didn't see much of his post-game media stuff but maybe maybe he did give his entire you know post-game media screw maybe he didn't French I may have missed that I don't know well I don't know if you saw the graphic that we put together for we try to yeah I mean El Abou Le Habitat what's the other half of that what's the other half of it El Abou I think is and that's a goal or something like that say Le Boul there's a whole number of things no Les Habitants is obviously the Habs okay that is there's another part there's another half of this the sentence that El Abou de Canadiens okay you're dancing around it Bruce we sent it into the group can you grab that please the the Canadian the French-speaking thing in the group text there it's a full saying and I'll tell you what pretty good yeah yeah I would say the French language sounds pretty spectacular whenever it's read but yeah the Abitants last night have a huge win Montreal upside down yep that city is going to be on display I think here now even more so than anything and I know this happens in college a lot which leads us to the next story we're going to chat about like sports put cities and towns on a map okay it's it's broadcasting it is commercial for your city it is how a lot of people will think about what your city is forever through the lens of sports like that is kind of what happens Montreau what they're about to do I think over these eastern conference finals and hell Carolina Hurricanes have literally been unbeatable I think with the Montreau people the les habitants or whatever the hell I think they are going to showcase how good of a sports town and they are and I think it is going to be a great time I mean they are going banana that city doesn't sleep I love I've been to Montreal two times it is insane that was not where the game was no that's a watch along that's a watch along that's happening so like I'm pretty the thing I'm jacked up about here is that I think a lot of people are going to get welcomed and kind of introduced to hockey culture but like their hockey culture is bananas and there's a lot of other Canadian teams I think that are not going to be excited how much their barns get and celebrate it because they feel like their barn is probably a little bit more electrifying but I think we got some great environments great atmospheres going forward Oklahoma City last night was awesome yeah yeah San Antonio is going to be outrageous yeah Madison Square Garden we already know enough I mean let's go ahead and go crazy here for the Cavs too I think we're going to show up in a big way is Dan we'll see is Dan Gilbert busing people with MSG see I love that too I like it whenever an owner is busing like 25 buses up 25 buses that's a great move by him yeah that's like college high school I love that I enjoy anytime that happens it's culture how are they able to get that many yeah that's a good question that's a good question and he got good seats like they weren't in the nosebleeds he got good seats for every single one in there and they're the only ones I don't love it either 10 minutes left in the game hey a lot of Montreal fans in Buffalo last night there was a big pop whenever they scored early a couple times there was a that was very loud I'm like oh hold the phone how about the whistle gate going on there huh interesting yeah you could say that's game seven puck it feels like there's always going to be some sort of when you're running the goalie all night this kind of happens you know they they took the goalie up before the score please so no free hacks on the goalie do you have any inside info regarding this play or no inside info on this particular play but clear you can hear the whistle yeah you know I was potentially listening to the other games sure because Tariq goes on a microphone over here not that I don't love mcdonough I do love mcdonough but with the way the games were kind of timed up I was trying to bounce back and forth the audio good it felt like March Madness last yeah a little bit it felt like March Madness on the tv's there so I didn't hear the whistle as clearly I think as you can certainly hear but boy the Buffalo Sabres fans the Buffalo people just another heartbreak in Buffalo and we want to let them know hey hell overrun though tired of the hand clap they're tired of being told hell overrun Buffalo fans are your friend of the bills the sabres like they'll pout to the cows come home don't worry they'll be fine oh come on they will they will they always do we should probably look at the numbers that alex touc had since josh alan wars jersey debate in the drumming game two of the first I don't want to pile on I don't okay what then why don't you stop you don't want to do then because that's what you're doing right now I just would like to look at the numbers hembo if you hear this do that please you don't want to pile on I don't want to pile on of course you don't and you know josh alan's a hell of a football great football player but boy oh boy it really took a turn buffalo last for playoff eliminations this year mariel game seven over time oh geez game seven they're used to it at this point no they can't kind of just the four falls I mean geez n h i won't change a rule for him either why can't we wear jerseys all right we wanted that rule changed to those stupid yellow jerseys well not like the over time rule is what he's talking about I think so they could have answered their Patrick Mahomes I think well that one yeah yeah they did they they change it well that's what I'm saying though he said he doesn't think they're gonna do that yeah oh I think what they're saying is they overturned a whistle didn't they in Buffalo if I was talking about them hey Buffalo fans chin up okay chin up yeah yeah you don't want to say it sounds like he but does Dan how's it maybe need mr. barter's even told us hey the two ones keep me up tonight yeah you're right once we got a whistle screw the both keep them up laughing before we move to the NBA with a man who knows a lot more than we do about the NBA uh I did get a chance to break some news in the NHL hmm yeah what did I put on an insider cap potentially breaking according to source says the Vegas Golden Knights in-person appeal of the missing media obligations case stemming from game six of the Anaheim duck series was heard in New York this morning by NHL commissioner Gary Bedman source says close to the situation according to saying Vegas's appeal was heard in person this morning the penalties currently stand as originally assessed $100,000 fine to court uh towards second round pick yanked out of the organization so Gary Bedman to commissioner heard the defense understood the situation and say listen we can't start a precedent here this can't be the case Torch probably understood as a man he used to be in the media I mean we heard of EJ yesterday 18 year NHL vet saying as a player I want to get home you know I understand but now the media it's like hey we're trying to you know do a thing Ty it feels like you're a little bit upset about the inside breaking news that I had as soon as I started putting pen to paper if you will thumb to phone to put this out you started shrugging and yeah it's been on yeah what's going on over there this is this is life of the inside ball I don't know if I like you huffing and puffing in my news I'm not at you pal okay you didn't make the decision I'm just I'm just wondering yeah I'm not shooting the messenger I'm just wondering if the you're huffing and puffing at the mess at the league itself if they maybe have it out for you know Torch and the boys this is bullshit we already heard that listen they had restrictions okay that bird had to get in the air otherwise the boys were going to stay in anaheim and next night you think Torch is putting up with that no so you know what I want Torch to do from here on out every single you know post game media scrum every question that's a stupid fucking question next and he's going to do it you think you think the Torch is above doing that I don't think so they have no idea what kind of monster they created he'll eat that 100k that's a couple you know age bottles of Bordeaux that he's not going to be able to have this off season and we're going to move right along and fuck that second round pick don't need that either okay this is bull is bullshit though pure poppycock feels like a witch hunt not the kind of mojo you want going in to the west your conference final second round dress that's a big time especially for the Vegas go to nights you got a lot of high-end players you're gonna build fully we'll figure it out he'll figure it out fine but second round pick yes yes poppycock yeah pure poppycock it's bullshit this insider game is crazy yeah careful that's gonna be that's gonna happen it sounds like he's thinking it's gonna happen a lot against the Vegas team because they're out to get him no more pens logo I don't see it anymore all I see is a freaking shield to do that's if I'm gonna become an NHL insider just know sometimes I'm gonna have to break your hearts boys that's just life that I'm gonna have to deal with as long as you so be for some of our teams okay because I because coming out here and just say are you gonna this is the situation I am as an insider staying directly on business yeah I'm gonna get the news out that's what I'm trying to do because I don't want to I don't want to be looking over there and seeing basically just a bet a betman standing on your shoulders constantly just telling you let him know Pat what are you talking about you think that source I don't want to say he's not no you think he would want to be the source on this one as saying like originally assessed no he wouldn't want that now have we maybe infiltrated some other offices around maybe maybe we have that insider game holding their water not I'm breaking it might be all of their water okay you should hear what I'm I got cooking right now I got some lines in water okay and it's gonna be big the luck I'm working it mcdavid the hockey town mcdavid would be soft yeah they're moving away from the NHL obviously we're breaking big news that's crazy to be in the game already look look what you have no I know exactly scary games be careful shams still dealing with yeah shams got a little fall out yeah did we get to hear wendy talk after the game there was no post nope we had to go to like french local media to find that you can't understand what's going on I hope everything's all right over here me too ladies and gentlemen joining us now from the world of the NBA a man who played a hundred years in the NBA 22 years in the NBA holy shit it's a long time 18 years Eric Johnson 22 years in the NBA ladies and gentlemen obsolete styling Chris Paul yeah how you doing Chris what up fellas it's 21 pat 21 and but I was always hoping for that next one though you know because that was my favorite Chris Paul year the next year it's not good he was gonna be you announcing something yeah not mine oh okay yeah you're done I forgot about that but you know what there is another Chris Paul coming hey sports center next put up a little highlight I guess your kid went crazy this past weekend is that accurate and uh swagger's boy is going to be number one overall then uh hold on uh rondo's kid right yeah yeah he's in eighth grade rondo's case in eighth grade how old how old is your boy and at what point did you know that he was going to be phenomenal at basketball and is it just kind of have to happen with you guys like rondo I think because he's point guard basketball IQ gonna be crazy for you same thing with your kid how do you kind of judge like forcing him to play versus wanting to play versus you know all that type of shit Chris that has to be difficult he's a sophomore um he's sort of just going through his process I think the coolest thing about being out on the circuit especially with the ybl is getting to see all these different kids right all the different kids of guys who I played against rondo son up here super duper nice um all these kids it's a gang of kids that aren't former players kids or whatnot but it's cool to get a chance to be there and see their process yeah you've talked about these tournaments being filthy this is a u stuff here that somebody that didn't grow up in the basketball world these this is what a u tournaments are and how many of these are there yeah so in the ybl you have four stops this was Memphis this past weekend and um Kansas City is next weekend then we have a vegas stop and then you have peach jam which is the biggest basketball like you grow I mean youth basketball tournament there is right augusta is known for the masters and the peach jam okay peach jam is in Augusta Georgia in Augusta Georgia you should pull up kids are love to see you down there Pat oh absolutely speaking of pulling up I mean they're gonna have to see that too I don't know is it a 10 feet I don't know you tell me the elbow might be in just a little bit too far I don't know where that ball going in a hoop just wherever just if you need to get eyes on my ball look for the hoop that's where it's better to Chris okay you don't want to be speaking of uh elbow that shouts your kid by the way and you I know you put a lot of emphasis into that and a lot of time and effort and your finances into it to hopefully pass the baton to another generation of great hoopers let's talk about the next generation ladies and gentlemen we've been debuting cps top three which has been something after we talk to him we get a chance to kind of our takeaway of his big takes his big take last night I think one of them was uh hey Wemby stepping in there and shooting that in overtime down three 20 30 seconds left or whatever in the biggest moment is something that I think you said you would have expected maybe it's all the other shit that maybe is the thing that he had to work on always been a great shooter I think people forget that and this is just a moment to showcase that what's your takeaway of how Wemby performed last night in this moment in particular man it was just fun to watch tell you the truth and to know him and the situation and the moment uh Vic is a great shooter last year he shot a lot of threes a lot of threes but now you just get a chance to see the evolution of his game he goes inside out the way he plays and that's just trust first of all he kicked it ahead to step castle step kicked it back to him and Vic likes those moments yeah okay so when he passes that back he thinks he's shooting that right there absolutely he didn't even think about it okay so everybody on the floor knew that Wemby was pulling that up right there you think yes yes especially for the first they everybody knew he was shooting oh that is awesome okay to have that um fortitude I will say I think a lot of people in this generation quickly judge especially somebody when one of their first interviews we hear from them saying universe and I we kind of see things the same way and he's he's out there with monks and he's I don't like it big night for french speaking folks I will say but he's also french so I think there's a natural thing that kind of comes alongside of that hoopers and the way basketball is kind of evolving I think a lot of people can kind of get lost and not really know that this guy's a certified killer right always been that way Chris is that kind of uh the thing that separates him as opposed to just being a seven foot five incredibly athletic guy in between the years this guy is a monster right I think that's what we need to talk about yeah yeah he he works at it so the things that he's one of those guys that if you tell him he's not that good or something he's gonna go put the work on work in on it and get better at it so if that was his physicality right because obviously you come into the league everybody talked about how light he was and people sort of push him here and there but he's seven five he got a lot stronger right he used to play with his back to the basket a lot and he still does but this play right here that they keep showing was so dope and all I could think about was uh was Greg Popovich when I first got to San Antonio last year and pop would just always be on Vic about facing up facing up facing up first triple threat right and you see how the game has just evolved and it just comes so easy to him now yeah so he's a hard worker do you think watching SGA get the trophy last night was obviously something that he thought about maybe the chat the chat story was seemingly something that was brewing online and then they were showing throwback clips in the algo the algo was showing me a 17 year old wembie taking on I don't know maybe a 17 year old chat home grin as well if these two have been looking each other in the eye since they're kids it seems like that is actually the case how much of that do you think fed into what last night was and I want to let you know if you uh get a chance to chat with them let them know that I think I respect how big of a like a petty competitive dog he is that I knew last night he was going to go absolutely crazy and I bet on it and I want a lot of money and the crown is seemingly starting to come my way yeah the crown is seemingly I'm starting to cry I'm sorry ronda rousey no problem I think this is what I'm gonna start doing I'm betting on dogs only okay I need to know that they're absolute dogs that felt like a moment for him to like hey yeah right this this lot of buildup it felt like for wembie obviously to materialize all that and to execute is one thing but I think that fed him isn't that kind of like his uh competitive fire or personality trait that I don't think we're all kind of learning about in real time yeah I think so it was a it was a cool interview that Vic did earlier in the season and he was talking about how he shows his emotions like he don't want to carry the burden of having to show his emotions I think he does a great job of that he just he's hoping he's having fun and he's gonna tell you he's sort of gonna show you I was anybody who loved his game because you you see some teams when there's an MVP ceremony some teams go to the locker room some teams are not out there when that happens because they don't want to be a part of it but Vic somebody tell you he I saw the video like everybody else he didn't look or whatnot but of course he understands the moment and he's somebody that's always finding little things to to push you yeah I uh I'm excited a lot he's gonna play for what another 20 we look this up okay we look this up as people that are kind of outsiders of the NBA world feels like all the goat conversations that happen like you play 20 21 years you thought you had 22 of just basic as 21 years 21 might be up a question too but that's neither of them all right so we'll say how many good how many would you like to how many meaty years we do all right 2020 2020 real 21 ethical I'm not doing that but obviously that is a real thing in basketball it feels like you have to play a very long time you have to give a long time to league you have to be great for a very long time him at seven foot five it's hard to imagine that size of a body being able to I think Jordan was like 15 years two of them in Washington 13 he was by far the least I mean LeBron you got through him all Kareem that they all played forever like everybody like kind of plays forever that's a part of the hooping lore I think during the conversation seven foot five he works on everything I think that's going to be a marvel if he's able to maintain actually just just from what we understand about humans haven't seen it ever it's like that would be a crazy thing if he was able to last long which it seems like all the goats of basketball are able to do Chris that would just be a crazy thing for us to watch I'm honestly not worried about Vic Lasting right playing for a long a long time in the league because his preparation the way he works the way he trains all the little details he's that competitive I got to like when I got there whether it's ping pong whether it's chess whether it's just shooting games after practice and he's like a student of the game like he watches everything constantly and it's kind of crazy to see it all come together because I remember I went to go watch him play before he came to the NBA and he was seven foot five wing player and he just keeps learning things throughout the years and if you watch down to stretch at that game the lives that Vic caught when Caruso was guarding them those are plays that he didn't used to do he was just always on perimeter but now he realized that he can score in so many different ways so hopefully he only gets better somehow we're lucky to be a part of this however long this run is Mr. Vic Wembigno do you call him Vic we all call him Wembie I think we'll stick with Wembie if we meet him bonjour Vic Gemma Pell Pat you know to do a fantastic we'll certainly do that but it is crazy that he's already being talked about as this is the hey this is the next generation of the NBA it's a lot of weight I feel like he's ready for the world of it but he's playing against a guy he's already a back-to-back MVP it's very abnormal go ahead Debug it. Yeah Chris and I'm assuming this is one of your three as well but SGA struggled and then first half struggled down the stretch to really get going like we used to see him get going had 12 assists only four turnovers so I feel like it was pretty efficient there what type of adjustments do you think SGA will make you know going in the next game man I think one of the things that we talked about to Pat was just the coaching like both teams are coaching really well obviously Shay struggled or whatnot to score but they've been here they battle tested they won the championship they lost last year to Denver I think game one so they go watch film and regroup but Shay's seeing a double team every time he come down the court he's gonna see that every single game you know they they they're loading up they're trying to make the other guys make shots ie Caruso having 30 or something like that but you're gonna try to figure it out okay so this was what we talked about the Lakers too right this JJ Redick was like being not dramatic he didn't say dramatic but like overdoing it maybe or something like that he was not going to let the game record wreck the game we have that in football as well that is just kind of standard operating procedure amongst most winning organizations like hey we got to try to make them play left handed we got to get rid of their best player SGA is obviously back to back MVP because he has been relatively successful against everybody it was like 20 straight years of at least 20 points or whatever how come it's different with some teams is it the WEMB factor that you know because they have had success against Oklahoma City all year and has SGA gotten the same treatment from every team like how do you think he and follow up another one if you want to explain this situation are they picking and choosing who's open whenever they bring somebody because that kind of happens in football we got to rob peter to pay Paul somewhere so somebody like how do they how do you think that all comes together with SGA being able to respond and what do they do in the next game you think to Oklahoma City all right bet you asked about six questions right there yeah give the fucking all right you're the fucking guy 21 years of experience go ahead okay so in the NBA we have hot guys and cold guys right so hot guys you actually don't help off of them as much cold guys you full body help but out here in this game no no disrespect to a lot of these coaches in the league but a lot of these coaches want to see how the game starts and then they let the main guy get 20 25 points then they be like okay we're gonna we're gonna get the ball out of his hands right like the league teams and the really great coaches as you can see they be like no we just not even gonna let this guy get gone so when shea comes down the court if you watch look at the wall that they're building every single time down every single time down their whole mindset is to not look look they load they load it up they load it up they just trying to make them see a wall shading seeing every coverage you could possibly see but look at look at where vicki is right there look at that that's hard to play against but um like i said he's seen it before and it's up to your teammates to make shots okay and we had the other guys stat against the lakers the other guys on the thunder went crazy so obviously they were able to win while shea was still getting double teamed or eliminated or whatever and i think against the the spurs you know on christmas i think carousel did not have a great shooting day and then last night has a phenomenal shooting night and it's like hold the phone now now will they continue to uh leave carousel open because it feels like they do decide like sga has to find the open person right that is what he's doing carousel had a lot of good looks and i think sga had to make that decision in real time does he know who they're gonna let free how does he know just from playing or is there like an indication that this is how they're gonna play the entire game we in the nfl have a first 15 where coaches are trying to get see how they'll line up against different formations that they want to use okay so first 15 want to be successful but we want to see what the defense is doing against our shit and then we're going to make adjustments to that after that it's like a unknown thing in football um same thing happening for sga here whenever he takes on the spurs at the beginning of the game or how do you guys figure that all out well you figured out because it's usually pretty consistent throughout the season the guys who shoot it better than others and there's guys that don't right so probably most games depending on who's on the court like if jerry mccain's on the court and carousel they they're definitely going to leave carousel open more than jerry mccain so you're trying to figure that out on the fly as you go but it's it's like clockwork for sure he knows he's going to see all these extra bodies when he gets into the paint and you just got to try to make the right decision and then you also got to figure out when to be just a little bit more selfish on some plays okay that's whatever he just decides to take off he did a couple times took it to the wrap and how long he held on to it before letting it touch the backboard because wendy is like right behind him you can just like feel him like get that get that get that get that get that they don't shake dunk one last night he went he drove to the dunk and he'll never duck but that's because he knew that vick was over there and big my yeah that one right there he'll never duck but he had to because vick was right there i'm not going to let this ball uh even come close to getting volleyball to out of here which he was early to do the wendy dunk in between chet and esti that was awesome first of all shout out to esti a going up i mean he's up there those are two yeah those are two aliens great sweet and esti is right up in i mean that was he ain't doing nothing up there all right your last one that we thought uh had to be uh obviously mentioned that you were talking about you already mentioned a kind of the coaching masterclass can you tell me about this a little bit about what we watch i love the game look like both teams are making adjustments both teams were answering and responding obviously the players do their thing the coaching though i think a lot of us maybe just thought it was good didn't really understand why it was good what why was last night such a high level of basketball you think chris first of all the way these two teams play it's just the coaching that gives them the confidence to play free like a kid like dylan harper you don't come in as a rookie and make those different type plays if you're not being coached and motivated to just go play free and not worry about making mistakes obviously uh mark in okay see has those guys playing like that night in and night out but playing for san Antonio last year and getting a chance to see the preparation that goes in every single day right like mike in there with the guys at eight nine a.m before practice going on all the ball movement and all this stuff like that it's just it's really dope to see it all come together i was watching the the end of game plays that they were running um the out of bounds play right here so if you watch step castle this is the funnest part for me in in basketball and i just to watch the plays and the execution so step castle screams and then he comes over here to devon vasel and this is a slip out right he's going he's going like he's getting champed and he slips out he's wide open right but it's also a great coaching by okc because they got uh check on the ball and it's just time the dylan harper see the basket the inbound couldn't see that he was wide ass open so he threw it short instead of far side he throws that far side that's probably tip in point seven seconds holy hell we just ran a design play for this exact moment executed won the game yeah and a lot of games come down to these situations and some of the best coaches that i played for at the end at the end of practice yeah look at that you can't see nothing dylan harper is a tall guard so imagine me when i used to have to do this yeah come on coach i'll see nothing you gotta do a lot of no look huh a lot of no look out of you i assume we're we're yeah you gotta you gotta pass it with the grace of god you just better hope all right let's talk about tonight as we hit the top three uh your thoughts on the east and how this thing's going to go the garden has been a marvel i mean just an absolute spectacle new york feels like it's time for new york to maybe go on a full championship run and the streets are going to be bananas and then the cavaliers holy hell each one in there and just punked the pistons just punked the motor city crew is that what the more motor sports crew is that what the mids called you guys up yeah that's what he said okay well how should we be viewing this one and obviously jaylen brunson in spider is going to be a phenomenal match up is that what we should be looking for and chris how do you kind of judge how this series goes is og back yes og's back this is going to be a good series i think um the game one of be interested in to see who sets the tone and i'll tell you what's crazy is i played in the western conference my whole career i never played for eastern conference team so to now be out and watch the different games and see sort of the pace of the western conference they said that all the time like when i was in the league is that it was sort of the eastern conference you know they just a little bit more grind the game out yeah you guys are soft out there in the west coast yeah i understand what you want to what you call it what you want to know i think that's what they i didn't know they said that and so you just said that right now but if i was a part of that time when people were talking i assume what i would have said from pittsburgh now in india west coast soft we know that that's the case yeah it's nice weather out there great god great i said western conference not the west coast yeah but we'll just yeah we'll just love them together and i'm sure you don't put everybody in there together huh yeah i'm sure everybody's gonna be excited about me doing that they understand that's on them yeah that's on that we're from the east that's gonna how we at least kind of how we operate you understand that but you're saying the style of play over there on the east a little bit different especially with these two teams yeah i think so it'll be a little bit slow slow pace uh jaylon has the ball a lot of times uh with the nicks and obviously donovan the james james plays a little bit of a slower game for the most part so it's gonna be interesting to see how this series starts off and how who guards who uh who sets the time all right we'll be excited for that we'll catch up with you next time your kid beating uh hell out of you in basketball right now yeah no chance no i saw him shooting i saw him shoot he's certainly especially a 10th grade i mean he's getting a jab set oh my god you're doing a fool you know you know i'm saying how old are you now 41 oh he's definitely i mean oh he said he said he's gonna be able to beat me when i'm 42 okay still hasn't come yet huh how tall is it clock is ticking no it's not how tall is he uh probably about my height now oh you're screwed oh no it's over it's over all right well good luck out there hey let little chris know go on lad go on go on lad give him buckets i love the fact that you're never gonna let him win either i mean it is gonna be no yeah no way no you're gonna foul the hell out of him if it gets it gets close and that's damn right damn right back and down yeah absolutely face guard face him up face him up laser gem and cp3 face he's the man chris is awesome yeah he loves sport uh-huh he loves the sport of his fault well he won years that's the 21 years and still drinking adult he's got these youth teams yeah he's got these youth teams where he's invested like mech i'm going to this tournament here obviously sun's playing but i think this was happening before as well i think he's like very much invested in the future he was the mba uh pa president or whatever i mean he loves ball and he's like it's ridiculous like how good these kids are now like watching eight like we were coming up eighth grade as you'll see like one or two like oh wow like you go to these tournaments or just watch them or even just going to a pickup and you're like oh yeah it's the 10th grade he's got a few offers he's got some d2 offers like these kids are ridiculous now i can't imagine what those type of tournaments at those games similar body styles garden similar body styles because for instance when i go play pickup for a large portion of my most recent life if i'm playing pick up some reason uh i'm like you know i'm gonna go do some cardio play basketball i haven't done this in a long time i just go i immediately as soon as games about start i start regretting it and then i try to find the laziest looking one on the other team yep and i go right up to him i go hey three point line of three point line here and yep okay cool they'll be playing four on four we'll kind of be living our own game here we'll make shots couple of us make some shots we kind of got an agreement i'm trying to find like body like minded in yep that's been happening i think since i've been playing yeah boys park basketball whenever i was growing up in youth i think it happens uh when you're playing just one bucket uh take back i think you're trying to find i mean since the beginning of time yeah like bodied people are guarding people i mean we have it here right this is the first time really yes yeah this this would be the time that you can say people are going to judge chat for this big time people are already our brother people are judging them and when he wants it all because when he was 17 years old he lost the USA in the fucking worlds yeah he fought out especially if like if you're not going to take on that assignment or maybe the coach said hey you do something else you got to be productive outside like you got to have a 25 and 10 type game but uh to just shit the band again that's game one should be a long series so he's gonna be picking up when the full court next game every possession there we go shit you think we're he should yeah if he's not considering it right now he absolutely should i loved watching caruso go crazy he's in some america italian american hall of fame oh yeah remember he won some super pies on a whip he can get going people forget he's been in the league a long time yeah they talk about those goats i mean caruso having a night like that was fun that was fun to watch and then it got to the point where he knew it too he was almost Steph Curry and that's oh yeah you know and it was like if he missed it was abnormal we continue to stay hot well they'd be able to get a dub over the aliens we shall see on the other side of the television last night was an hl game that went over time those spectacular and buffalo the blade gang and sabres fan certainly brought a lot of montreal fans it felt like in the barn but nonetheless the environment was crazy and the montreal canadiens have punched their ticket to the eastern conference finals joining us now is a man who is a quite a homer for lehobokan yep ladies and gentlemen pk suba how are you buddy i'm great i'm great after the big win last night couldn't be better okay so a lot of people talk about non-biased season stuff like that but for montreal punching their ticket tell me about the pure joy i assume your entire body felt you were up there for game six it was obviously a spectacular environment we saw the arena packed out up there in montreal and it's a weigh game obviously the game's not being played there it looks like it is filled as if it was the game's home um tell me about this and why this is great for hockey in your eyes pk it's amazing for hockey because there's just so much history in montreal and you know we talk about the growth of the game in the united states and it's exploding you know since the olympics and jack hughes and all of that but um you know hockey's a religion in montreal and when it comes to playoff time you can multiply it by a thousand it becomes to this historic level of energy that's unmatched and to be a part of it to witness it i think it's amazing for the world to see what sports means to to people uh in montreal and what the canadiens mean but you know it's no different than when you see the yankees or any of these other teams it's just montreal the energy is just a little bit thicker the pressure is a little bit thicker and you know when you're talking about over a hundred years of history and sports and culture and religion and all of that great stuff in quebec uh it's pretty spectacular to see in the playoffs what's going on a salable bansuah l a party okay okay yeah that's me and pierre hood we like to say that hey and pat pat you know what i i gotta say this to uh buffalo sabers fans unbelievable i i you know it yeah they definitely deserve it we were unbelievable all playoffs they showed out they showed up um you know it was a long drought for them getting there but we want to see buffalo back in the playoffs uh that's a hell of a team by the way yeah holy that is a wagon of a team uh that's coming and lindy ruff did a great job uh i thought all the players on that team you know it's not going to be on anybody's shoulders they competed this was just a hell of a series and it went to a team that got the last shot and you know alex new hook stanley cup experience having a hell of a run right now breakout season really but for this group this is a special group in montreal also a special group in buffalo though i gotta give them a lot of credit for how they battled this series yeah it was a fun so debuck didn't like us giving them like the all sorry i'm just here for him i know that city just so boohoo buffalo they'll be fine they're not called boohoo buffalo people i have seen boohoo buffalo as well lately oh we saw him boast that i'm bullish on buffalo you should be boohoo-ish because i believe the Kleenex is moving their headquarters up there as well no with alo uh-huh oh it's a good Kleenex yeah great i found now that i shave i can't blow nose with Kleenex i use paper towel because the little bristles really he can get all sought off in there and i walk out and i just got Kleenex all over my face just go here and with how my energy levels are immediately that guy's got cocaine on his face i just blew my nose with Kleenex i'm so sorry i shaved my face this first time i've ever done it these are things i gotta think of yeah so i'm going paper towel but on that note you're talking soft you're talking about Kleenex i'm done you're talking about crying you're talking about sympathy which is what we showed to buffalo because they're such a good fan base but boy the sports gods just have not been very kind no they poop on not but the sports gods were not that kind to detroit and then he sat in that tub of moonshine maybe we're right didn't they do that what was it the curse of bobby lane yeah what was it was a moonshine bathtub and yeah whiskey yep and they made it all the way to the wow yeah did you know this pk so maybe no what no yeah explain that explain that the curse of bobby lane was around since the 50s we and then we had paint manning and jeff daniels in a bathtub of whiskey and it abolished the curse we want to play off game for the first time in my lifetime so on that wow yeah so buffalo might be doing this right now in their own way we know they got a lot of whiskey when i go to the tables they brought in those big-ass bison yeah that might be the curse lifter wow the bison have come in and scared them out of there if they would have had little tiny baby bison's that curse yeah only we'll see typically the football gods don't love any fire coach who wins 12 to 14 games a year but we'll see we'll see it's a good point all right okay yeah very valid let's stay in the east here montreal your team that you are not showing any bias towards at all as you're going shirtless with their fans before one of the game six which is obviously great i'm sure savers fans are really happy to watch that on their television as their team was continuing to build and like you i love the savers fans and buffalo fans hopefully they have success i'm also happy for the cany x down there raleigh that place is awesome that place has been electrifying their team has been on a break for a year like people forget that they even exist right now with everything going on not only in the nho playoffs but also the mba playoffs feels like they've been a forgotten bunch almost what are your thoughts on carolina coming out of this long break and how's the match up with montreal well talking at the desk yesterday night messier you know had mentioned about the 11 days off or whatever time that they had been off before they play their first game and and he remembered in one of his playoff runs where they had time off and they were it it proved to pay off dividends in the playoff run now i i think it's a really long wait um but it is going to pay off in some ways as as the series goes on but you also run into the issue of potentially starting the series late you know you can't you can't mimic two game sevens like montreal just went through you know the other side of it is okay well montreal they've just played two game sevens is this a tired group is this a banged up group all questions that we're going to see as the series starts but one thing's for sure i do believe that playing in seven two game sevens in the playoffs in the first two rounds against the Tampa Bay lightning and obviously the buffalo sabers which are two teams that have been really really competitive all year has been great for this group you know kaden ghoulie who made the big play on the first he's just rounding out his game he missed a lot of time this season you know obviously we're seeing the chemistry now with the depth scoring and bulldoke and different players stepping up obviously new hook is the guy that you know people probably didn't think offensively would explode this way in the playoffs but you still got demodog you got cold uh coffield who's a 50 goal scorer this is a group that's galvanized right now by the energy that montreal and the community and the fan base is providing them right now they're riding a wave that can't be mimicked by x's and o's or or even the players that are that that you can have on your roster i think it's the energy in which they've create the culture that they've created in that locker room this is a tight group that believes in each other and you know they got outplayed last night for the majority of that game like pat it was like very similar to team usa and team canada it was the same thing and like you could people talk about analytics i don't want to hear about the analytics take that and toss it out the window the best player on the ice the most important player is the gold tender he's on the ice for the most time dole vish was the best player in this series and that's all they needed just like team usa hella buck was the best player on the ice well they ended up winning the gold medal they were outplayed they were out uh chanced by team canada same thing in this game montreal was out chanced and outplayed but they had the best player on the ice and that was their gold tender so you know listen we call it hockey but you might you could call the sport gold tending because if you don't have a gold tender you ain't going anywhere hockey's a better name but i do appreciate the metaphor and everything that you're saying i do appreciate that he was interviewed afterwards about something about 40 games and he said oh i could play another 40 games feels like he is in his zone we've seen this before obviously whenever it comes to playoff runs in a goalie going crazy on that note connor has quick question for you yeah pk to that point with caroline of the hottest goalie in the playoffs it felt like was freddy anderson but now he's been not on his ass but he hasn't been playing for about two weeks is there a way to kind of carry that on for caroline is this kind of like freddy anderson's confident but he's not as hot as he was or how does this entire thing work when it comes to him and the panther or excuse me the hurricane staying hot well a great example is you you know and not to take us out of the playoffs but sydney crossby goes to the world championships to play and i'm saying it again we know he's a leader we know that he's all team canadies all captain and all of that but it's also has to do with where he's at in his career he's got to keep playing and i always think that at this time of the year when you have those big gaps the intensity and the attention look at montreal couldn't break a puck out of their zone so if you're sitting off for 11 days you're stepping into a conference final with a team that's been playing that type of competitive hockey i think there's got to be an adjustment period and the team that's better prepared for that you know right now i like montreal with their youth and their energy these are all young players they got a couple veterans but these guys are young right demodogs young cold copies young zazuki's young leon hudson's young so you know when i look at that group i think they can ride that way for carolina it's going to be splayvan defensively sebastian aho now is going to get a little bit more time and space remember this is a more of a skill a skill series so look out for aho look out for sep jarvis yep those guys i know we're going to get some more ice in this series so i look for those guys to explode listen game one is going to be tough for montreal to win it's going to be a very very difficult game for them to win considering the energy and and what they're up against but i'm just so looking forward to these teams getting after it i really am okay me too let's go to the i see i like montreal and game one wow me personally you forgot maybe okay pat hold on pat maybe our jarvis boys gonna be yeah he's doing a manitoba are the manitoba boys coming through or i hope so i hope so i hope they're gonna be there i i'd like to think so if your buddy's playing in the conference final you got to show up but i have a question for you guys because there's a lot of question marks around whether montreal should start dobish for game one or rest them and maybe play another goaltender now no way i understand no no hold on well exactly that's what i'm saying i'm saying no this time of the year if i'm dobish if i'm putting myself in his shoes and and marty st louis for a second right i'm just playing coach for a second like how can you honestly go to your goaltender and say hey dude you know what thanks for the first two rounds we're gonna rest you though we're gonna give this guy the net like i don't know how you can do that so i think that exactly they got to ride this wave and you got to play these guys they're a young group this is why i picked them remember they're only halfway there you need to have a young legs to win the Stanley Cup just to get there you got to have the young legs they got the legs to do it they got the skill and the talent to do it they're up against the probably the best board checking team that i've seen in a long time in the national hockey league those young players in their experience is going to be put to the test in this series that could be the difference right that could be the difference yeah it could be that you know it is a game of attrition who can last actually just came out to a couple people from manheim broken next that is the difference of hockey uh drew living stone producing drew i guess he's go have since 2000 teams that come off a game seven victory are seven and one in a series against a team come off a speed that's what i'm saying wow i think hockey is a rust situation oh yeah as opposed to a rest situation especially playoff hockey i think you're flying around in these games every other night i mean it was like a adrenaline man adrenaline but i'm saying it's like a routine i think the them sweeping too straight it's like long layoff long layoff now obviously they were able to sweep coming off of sweep so maybe they're able to handle it more than everybody else but you don't you watch that game last night it's like okay so a team that has just been trying to do that in practice is going to have to show up for that the first i think the first one is where i think carolina maybe gets the skates back yeah that might be completely wrong i might be completely wrong is there they haven't lost i think you're right pat but there is the one x factor carolina has is rod brandy more he's the kind of coach that may be able to rally a group of guys who haven't played in 11 days to come out and skate through a wall for uh 60 minutes and for a kaniac i mean they'll do for the kaniacs too i mean but pat hold on pat like for me my concern as someone who obviously wants to see montreal win this my concern is montreal sat back for the whole game like they sat back for three you cannot do that like you know they win the game last night and overtime on a broken play and they find a way to get it done but to me i look at tampa bay and i look at buffalot there were lulls in those series where the they just tilted the ice on them and i just you know i go back to when i got called up in the playoffs when yaraslav halak went on that crazy run and and that's how i see it you know he was playing out of his mind they're putting his name on stop signs and we're getting mike camillari scoring every time he shoots the puck and it's a similar thing and it's like when i'm watching hockey i'm like how does this transfer translate and they're just finding ways to do it i don't know if you can sit back and withstand carolina's forecheck over and over and over again all game so i got to see what marty st louis going to change and what adjustments he's going to make and get them out of their zone they got to come out of their zone more connected and playing with the puck they're just not going to last in this series if they don't excited to see the carolina hurricanes back on the ice and obviously in the west that tips are puck drops tomorrow yeah okay i can't wait to see the avalanche who everybody's saying might be the best team in history of hockey okay this team might be the ones minnesota was able to obviously get a win in the series against them but they would have come through completely unscathed through the playoffs and they're taking on a team that's been here before the vegas golden knights fresh off a news break debuff yeah we did have some news breaks this morning from pat and i want you to see the news break i see you were aware of it i want your reaction because you've been a member of the media for a long time obviously you were a player for a long time what's your thoughts on this i'm not as familiar with the nhl draft but a second round pick i'm sure some pretty great players have come both checks on this all right it's a massive five listen a second round pick forget the hundred thousand dollars you'll pay that but the second round pick you don't know what that could be so that's a valuable pick especially with everything in the game now the cap and how difficult it is to get young good prospects the top pick in the first or second round is a huge loss so i'm not sure what happened guys with with this and where this was kind of confused or misled or what happened but but that's a big pick to lose it is that one hurts well pk i'll keep you updated on all the nhl news says i've become an insider in this particular league that we all love so much you've done a great job all playoffs good luck to you and the canadiens and maybe we'll see you soon you're the best okay thanks guys thanks pat please guys pick it boys yeah pk all right hour one ramps up incredible hockey incredible basketball what will our two-seat bowl college gambling what a judge on the take no no see you on the other side this episode is brought to you by xpedia and visit scotland start your story in scotland experience the pool of wide untamed landscapes and fresh cuisine that feels rooted in place discover castles steeped in legend and feel the genuine warmth from locals you meet in a place that will stay with you long after you leave start planning your own scottish holiday today at xpedia.co.uk slash visit scotland why go small when you can go grand 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absolutely crazy in oklahoma city as wemby not only showcases in the paint but obviously incredible range look at like steve curry as he leads the san antonio spurs to a 1o series lead after going into the champion's house the mvp's house in stealing a game one dub what will the response be from the thunder the thunder fan showed up in a big way it felt like i was there felt like i was having a good time to riko crossover reggie miller on the call felt like everything was perfect and stupendous and what we saw was maybe the next 20 years of the mba play out in front of us man who's seven foot five and can do it all a man who wants the moment lives for the moment and walks into oklahoma city and says hey you know what i'm by sick to the whole mvp party you're having for somebody that is in me bonjour ça va ass pour tout that's french yep he wasn't the only french person that had a great time last night no it wasn't monstros canadians congratulations to les habatans les habatans up there they actually crush it get a win in overtime in buffalo and for buffalo sabres fans and buffalo people in general buffalonians if you will who we have a very very high regard for yeah another heartbreak another just another heartbreak for their sports fans up there their indoor lacrosse team really good sure the buffalo rockers you remember them yeah uh the soldiers the buffalo bandits yeah they still do it oh no we're not doing that oh my god that kind of went too easily together there because i think if we were to put a little time into that particular rhythm i think we could think of something for the heartbreak that buffalo sports fans have had to soldier through for sure and what we would like to say to western new york is go on fans remember winter just ended well sorry winter's about to end for you guys yep the sun's coming in like a month or so come on everything's good now you're new stadium coming beautiful it's gonna be by we didn't close it off so we can't have winter uh things you know but we'll cover a lot of it because we want to still experience buffalo the lake life up there is going to be great i mean everything's coming around the sun will be coming out in about a month or so up there and then everything's going to be fantastic then we're right into football season that's right and then that's going to go good to right here that's going to go great still of josh yeah we'll see last night was an indicator see a five and nine's coming probably after that last night was an indicator that everything's about to crash the old habits of the buffalonian sports are about to end it's dawning of a new day we just had to have our heart broke one last time game seven overtime at home one that we scratched and clawed our way back into and then devastation as the french people that are speaking in your barn get to celebrate all over your city their city and punch their ticket to the eastern conference finals this was the final thing that the buffalonians had to go through this fall whole new era for the buffalonians congratulations you got this style watch you things are coming good up here for montreal he's in peace to sell kappa he was no longer gonna be the what the buffalo bills caked his ass to see i don't i don't know what that was the case don't let you say south copa that can't be true that's not true i don't know that's not true you got to talk to him was a deposit connor and that's i'm making up one half of the hammer dad cabell go to his ex ridiculous man joining us now best employee i don't think they're making it up ladies and gentlemen joining us i didn't sound like i missed something and i don't like it i can already tell i don't like it hate it but i don't want to keep doing it at all i'd like to move on from this okay spaceships don't come equipped with rear view mirrors they dip and if we're talking about what you're talking about right there i need to get that behind me and never talk about that again i can't live in that world where pizani isn't doing his thing on the drums well i didn't say that because he may be going on tour with like lute combs or something playing the drums he should be the peppers yeah we don't know where the peppers exactly the red hot chili ones yeah i don't think so they got a drummer i think red hot he's on saturday in live now he's gonna sell all right join us now ladies and gentlemen that might have the answers actually college football national champions your boat champion roddick up when it leaves jimmy a j hawk yeah oh what the fuck's going on have you heard i mean the only way the only way sal's not in buffalos he had to get recruited away from some giant national show i would assume right that's the only only way he's gone i don't know to be honest this is all kind of being being thrown on me pretty quickly here in the live you do a wheel of fortune is he taking over for uh maybe crest i thought long ago fortune i'm pretty sure bino told me get the hell out of time that but again i'm not sure that's exactly what okay we love sal we love buffalodians it's hard time right now we're kind of piling on which you didn't want to do earlier no you talked about not wanting to pile on but yeah i mean maybe there was a national gig that opened up for sal i hope that's case but we do know he loves buffalo uh congrats montreal uh let's talk a little college football news shall we interesting development in the brennan soresby case okay as you know soresby has um entered himself into a rehab down wherever i don't know where it is we assume somewhere in the south but we're not 100 sure because of a gambling addiction that was reported and then the uh nc w a found out about texas tech had already the texas tech know whenever they signed him through the transfer portal as he was the number one quarterback basically in transfer portal and texas tech has great investment behind all of its sports including its football and they pay this money how much it all kind of got thrown on us quick there's been an update in the case i guess there is a deadline that has been placed june 22nd or something like that for the supplemental draft so there is a deadline in texas tech quarterback brennan soresby is filed for an injunction against the nc w a seeking his college's eligibility it cites a whole sale abandonment of its obligations and duties to promote the well-being of soresby now there was a lot of other information that was coming out about the local judge that will be handling this particular case it something just happened down an old mist with trinidad chambliss there's a lot of this too in mississippi kind of happened right this feels like what the nc w a is most scared about the nc w a anytime you listen to him talk um basically says we can't do anything because we'll just get sued everything we do we get sued so we need government to give us power to be able to make rulings so that we don't we have some sort of say because everything we do we just basically get sued seemingly how charlie baker was phrasing when he was talking to us when we're asking him about other issues as opposed to these particular issues that are currently happening that is kind of what's taking place and this is happening in uh courtroom yeah in lubbock texas right because that's where he is okay so now obviously everything gets called into question which is certainly going to be the conversation but this does seem like a pretty big precedent will move here for the nc w a and for football because it feels like and this might just be you know narrative building here by sides which will certainly happen publicly i think they're trying to showcase what is uh possible whenever the guy's hobby is gambling okay like this was this guy's like actual hobby it seems he's been on like Turkish soccer at like nine a.m like five blocks on it like it felt like this became an actual addiction like a thing that he was just doing on a regular basis and now they're trying to figure out or determine publicly like should this guy's football career be ruined because he was doing all this and they're like well he did bet on indian when he was on the team and they're like well he's come out and said that it made him feel more part of the team because it wasn't it wasn't doing shit for the team right it weren't good then yeah so he so that was like his angle coming out so now it's like an interesting thing about empathy for the situation while still having rules that are from a different time while we certainly are going to have a lot more of these types of situations in the future so we're set in precedent it's a this is a wild case we have thamil joining us in about 30 minutes or so but it's a wild case a wild situation because when you break it down and think about it you cannot you cannot set the precedent where it's like where it's okay where you don't miss time for betting on your own team even if it's for them to win even if you weren't playing whatever you can't be betting on your own sport i think everyone agrees with that just because of how big betting is now and how big athletics are now you just the whole same sport thing same team thing you just can't have it but then when they when you get in trouble for it you file an injunction against the nc double a in your in the hometown of where the college plays and then you get a hometown judge whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa i was stating facts i didn't say that the hometown judge was a texas tech fan or whoa i did not say any of that when they put on the robe yeah i learned this from judge judy yeah when you put on the robe you don't think about what football thing i agree you think about the core of law that you are not a human anymore no you put the robe on get that gavel and all the same thing you are representative of precedent that's about as you should so there ain't gonna be any seems like you were i was just stating facts of what the situation is in this case and and been in others we're just about to show maybe a picture here we should not do that until we like p fam will lead us to that photo okay we will not do that is it judge you don't we don't know we don't know anything they the internet's doing it's a lot of research happening right now on who's doing what around here and all of a sudden i got a little bit of a change of tune i think sourzby's gonna be good for this texas tech team yeah okay and i think this is gonna be a good story i think it's gonna be good story for others to learn from like hey wow that's quite the turn if you've been reading what i'm and let's be comes in and tells me something vastly different uh just i i think you know a lot of people think like maybe we're a shallow bunch you know people that don't really listen to us they might think we're a shallow bunch sure i i don't think that's the case i think we just judge things differently i like to uh read the humans in the situation before anything else like when i went b last night the human hey that guy's got to watch sga that's all i'm worried i didn't worry about double team and sga as soon as he gets cross half court i love that information from chris ball the way i'm viewing is how humans are gonna act probably just from my i think you know sociology minor you know and sure and how this whole thing kind of works and how humans operate and you know like the just i i think that matters so much more than we give credit to oh yeah so like immediately upon what i'm reading about this situation down here i think humans are gonna act like humans here and i think sourzby's gonna throw i don't know maybe 30 touch 40 touchdowns maybe wow chance unless p thamil comes in and tells me a little different information than what i've been reading on you know feels like hey hey he's gonna be down there does the does the sheer amount of bets that he plays does that does that like that comes into account right when they're making this decision like hey this guy obviously when they go back they find out i don't know how many thousands of bets he was making right like does it matter does that have anything to do with it well i think that is why him checking himself in i believe yeah to the hey i gotta break this from me is a big deal which is probably what they're saying are you looking out for the well-being of the player like i reported myself basically for having this issue and then a big thing happened you know so that's certainly an angle yeah this is a this is the first right this is the first we're seeing something like this the thought of this happening is this happening in texas tech stadium like the court case could be like this is happening and the capacity that i mean that's why his patch of my homes on the stand the judge requested that he shows up in his pads and uniform and not like a suit my home is going to be a character witness because this would be precedent setting and then let's say the rule four source week the ncda appeals that the supreme court now the supreme court here in this case is that kind of how the whole process we got i don't know anytime courts get involved it feels like we got a four five-year process but then shaftere was reporting because at the beginning of the reporting of the situation for the supplemental draft there was a deadline they're like end of june needs to happen then it came out the nfl was like no actually what we could kind of make it work we don't want to kind of put a deadline on anything then shaftere yesterday comes back as like hey june 22nd actually is the deadline for the supplemental draft if they were to do it it's like source b would be very very highly sought after in the supplemental draft streets now there has been precedent by the nfl to follow ncda punishments for things that have happened in college versus what going to the nfl i just uh this is there's a lot on the line here there's a lot on the line and allegedly we got an answer by june 22nd that sounds completely abnormal court system ncda presidential thing and we're gonna have an answer in 30 days barely okay okay i don't know con man yeah i don't know if that's going to be the case but i'm excited to see how it all plays out and i also don't know if the 10 thousand bets hurts or helps him because like 10 000 makes it seem like okay this is a genuine problem this isn't you know 100 massive massive bets like we've seen in the past i believe calvin ridley when he got in trouble he plays like two or three huge bets and they were parlays but clearly that wasn't like a gambling problem it was more so like that was where across the line he is clearly betting on games where he might have information he served his year and he's back and you know it's great but with soarsby it does feel a little different where it was him on a bad team losing bets on a bad team and then also placing like you mentioned you know turkish socker 10 000 plus like that is a problem i know kashon booty who's a star for the patriots now he had a problem in college and he opened up about it in a in a player tribute article and it sounded very similar to soarsby so like you think about that situation booty who you know lost a lot of you know potential money potential you know draft stock in his situation lsu didn't ruin his entire life he earned his way back and now you know he's eligible to hopefully get a big deal in the nfl and is that situation more similar to this that's how it feels at least from the outside yeah just as the tide has turned over the last couple days it feels like as the appeal and dates have been placed in there we will certainly continue to follow along ptham will be joining us in about 15 minutes uh with more on story let's go back to the mba obviously gigantic night last night two goliath battle in the western conference the hype lived up oh yeah to the game ladies and gentlemen joining us now mba champion front of the program iman shaper yay mom whoa what's up my guys whoa where are you where are you at it's the espm baby you know what i'm saying i gotta give you a little shout out espm baby i appreciate you putting that in there behind you for us thank you for doing that you're the man iman okay last night was we started the show by saying if adam silver was to create a western conference game one in a lab it would be last night just what's your takeaway and what is the conversation about the state of basketball with these two teams in the west just strictly but when before what the next 10 years of this is this where we're looking at what a special night for hoops it felt like iman um yeah again this is the matchup that we were all promised as basketball fans uh the teams don't seem to like each other there's chips on shoulders i don't think wimby likes seeing uh sga hoist up his second mvp trophy um i don't think wimby took well to them putting caruso on him uh toward the end of the game to be an answer uh i just everything about this matchup stefan castle getting a dunk and staring sga down everything about it entices the nba to one play harder but for that 48 minutes that we all talk about we want them to hate each other they gave us that you know what i'm saying as basketball fans i think we're all sitting here with a smile uh okc just now has to you know they're gonna have to go into san it one they're gonna have to take care of home court uh next game but they're definitely gonna have to go into san antonio and still one so we're gonna see what they made up perkins said something hilarious last night about sending his kids to them monks okay him and his wife were talking about sending his kids to them monks because he would like to know whatever the hell they said to wimby but he just seems like a different creature out there a j go ahead pal yeah he doesn't shop i'm wondering what is this okc team going to do i guess defensively you think in game two are they gonna switch it up are we gonna see chet uh on wimby like what are they gonna do oh we better we better see check guard wimby i'm not sure why check wasn't garden wimby i'm not sure why uh when the over times came check didn't look at his coach and say hey man i love you to death i get the game plan that's my matchup at some point you got to take the challenge because you saw in wimby's eyes what he was going to do to the game he was going to impose his will on the game he was going to make it almost personal at the end and to see that and see check keep having to come off the weak side i thought he put himself in a disadvantage what he had like seven of the ten points in uh i forget what it was he did he just absolutely took up there was a time late in that game where i thought plus six and a half we weren't going to cover okay there there there was a little bit of us normally we're dogs go to dogs go to dine it was very i was very scared as we were going there and it turns out seven point win for san tody it's like every narrative that could potentially happen or every collapse that could have taken place or wimby played good but in the end the championship pedigree of oklahoma city won out at the end like who's going to make shots down the stretch it's like this first team answered every single time it was spectacular in their average age i guess 22 and a half they're like the youngest in a long time your thoughts on that iman is that just an old soul crew down there because they've been through so much do you think the age thing does matter whenever you get to a certain point you know i did think that uh there was a time in this game that i was going to have to say wow this is the part where experience takes over it was the time at the end when they had to tie the bucket and sga brought the ball to the left side of the floor off of an irisens like cut and then left wimby in the corner to have to make the decision on would it be a three or a layup that they would take uh wimby stayed in the corner and i felt that they had figured out some sort of tilt to keep wimby at bay to say you have to make a decision you're no longer allowed to play defense in rome uh he likes to play rover a lot of times where he is not really guarding anybody he's guarding everybody anybody that comes in his vicinity and anybody that's left open he does a late contest on with it being a high contest uh i thought okay see finally pin pointed it and left him in the corner and to see uh the spurs take the challenge and just pressure defensively get stops get rebounds at the end because a lot of those rebounds just got loose it was a lot of 50 50 balls they got all of those i can't really point the finger at their age anymore i think these are just ballers these are guys that want to take the challenge and they're guys that really don't care that they have the nvp over there i can't stress that enough that when i look at castle i look at uh uh uh uh uh why can't i think of mazela harbore they're like going out there i just don't see guys that i don't want to say they're disrespecting them but they don't respect it enough to lay down they're saying you're gonna have to come beat us we have the advantage over here at any time you believe that again to win it takes a little bit of delusion they have it yeah and it felt like through the season they had it as well you know you it was like the new england patrits having to go up to foxborough to play the new england patrits you lost the game before you even got there the coaches did players did somebody did and for this team spurs it feels like they're pissed off that people view Oklahoma City like that as opposed to them i love it man yeah and i love i love i love too we we don't talk enough about just the spurs organization in general the spurs have been a great organization for a really long time you saying the patrits really made me think of that and hone in on it having popped around that culture having i know their coach uh is a winning coach but to have somebody like pop a real pillar in this basketball world to to be able to lend advice to be able to give guys encouragement and move the needle along while the playoffs are going to have them prepared for these type of moments and these type of situations you are seeing uh counter punches being thrown by they they seem like veteran guards it seems like wimby is a veteran but i think a lot of it is the coaching the poise the winning culture that's around having tim duncan to lean on having david robinson around to lean on uh being able to have those conversations calls for a winning mentality coach mitch johnson leading the squad down there and obviously dag over there and oklahoma city it has been uh it was high level basketball it was fun to walk that was that felt like game seven of the finals oh right there at western conference obviously uh they were playing without a guy that we know go ahead con man yeah shump no dear and fox that kind of almost helped them because it gives all these other guys the young dudes that we're talking about more confidence more time to kind of get settled in the conference finals what is your read on that do you think adding dear and fox will be kind of simple offense can do exactly what they just did or do you think that will change things up a bit just because the depth of okc is incredible and that does seem to be a huge advantage for them especially if each one of these games is going to go to double triple who knows quadruple over time well if i'm okc and i know that we just lost without them having dear and fox i'm scared to death um i i don't think that it was one of those things where you say maybe it worked out in our favor uh if you're dispersed saying it worked out in our favor that deyara didn't play it's like no they have been a three-headed monster this whole time sometimes it's two of them they get off sometimes all of them get off sometimes it's one of them that comes up big it doesn't really matter they rotate they all play different speeds and they all do different things i think that uh yeah you had dylan harper and more of a rhythm but the erin fox coming back does not change things it just forces now dylan harper to attack your second group which is supposed to be okc's better group but if dylan harper now comes off the bench to attack that group it's like when do you get a break and a little bit of time off to get your breath together to get your bearings together to actually deal with wimby i'll tell you what i'm excited to deal with wimby for the next hell of a ball club they put together they got harperists they change the rules because of this ball club hey we're not we're not doing this stacked ones up again we're not we're not doing it look what they got down in san antonio and they'll be able to pay him more because they're all from there right yeah and like the duncan old school thing like they all stayed together when like monu tony and him probably could split up if there's any place where all those guys will stay and take less money it's the spurs and it feels like wimby clear star but he's super humble yeah you know so everybody else around him's not going to grow to resent him which could potentially happen in some of that clip this picture oh yeah the whole timeline kind of like the whole yeah yeah yeah the boys gas them up hey we're on the wimby jet brother yeah let's go ahead and get it it's always nice it's always nice to see him make a carpet like that yeah exactly yeah that's the thing though like we talked about it as just outsiders non-hoopers when wimby got the san anton yeah i mean this is awesome this is gas the boy up there oh my god hey gas up the jet kelly olympic point at him yeah so tom mcman was a special teams coach for me in uh at the indianapolis colts he went on the raiders i don't think he's there anymore is at the broncos whatever the case growing up he grew up on a horse farm okay and he had an entire mentality that shaped from his horse farm he said basically my only job as a kid was to feed the stud okay just make sure this guy okay the one that we need here is happy so his entire narrative is if we have a stud returner let's do everything we can to make this guy good vignetary hey let's just feed the stud here let's just get this out of the way san antonio has gotten to the point where it's like hey let's feed the stud here let's let wimby kind of be the guy because when he first got there kind of oj's around he's gonna have to prove that he can make it in the mba it's crazy when an organization just decides like hey we're gonna go and what that can do for a guy like what that can do for wimby as he knows that this is my team we go as i go and the boys are all in that's huge for the vibes huge for the vibe and when those guys can feed the stud and then you still have every other starter scoring and double figures and you have a couple guys scoring 20 like yeah you're gonna be tough to beat if you can continue that yeah that's a bunker mentality it seems like they got with the alien leading the entire way okay let's go to the other series obviously in the east that's going to be tipping off this evening go ahead debut yeah it seems like the nicks kind of have a bunker mentality too they tapped into i want to know kind of what is click in your opinion for them because over the took the playoff so far eight and two i could over a 19 point winning margin when they run away with wins so what is click with that squad well i think that the game plan is now ruined for the whole nba that they once had on the nicks we once had this this narrative in this game plan to say hey we're just gonna pressure jaylon brunson we're gonna make it really difficult for him he'll wear himself out and at the end of the game if we don't give him an available pass he'll just dribble dribble dribble and they'll have to live with the results you no longer can do that because now they're giving the ball to cat and then it becomes playmaking action uh what it does is it creates less dribbles for jaylon brunson but you start to see jaylon brunson is actually really good with cutting off of the ball especially when he's aggressive with his cuts because he now knows he has a willing passer in carl anthony towns i think that three point shooting goes up because you now have to sink in if cat gives you a quick shot fate you now have to sink in when he makes a drive and he's spraying out you got a bunch of closeouts guys are attacking closeout it makes the game totally different for them so i think that's the biggest thing that's happened uh cat becoming a playmaker now ruins your whole scouting report so if people have a new tilt that they can do against cat up there at the top of the key and on the sideline running that pistol action if they have an answer for that then we'll start to see new adjustments but that once game plan that used to ruin the nicks hopes every time it's out the window well and also it feels like they're playing more players having the rest at this stage is obviously good for the new york nicks i mean i mean what it was like a year ago i saw jaylen brunson out over there in new york at the up fronts yeah they still haven't played a game since then no that was a that was a long time ago but their big thing against the pacers is we ran their asses off the court like basically we just ran them off court wasn't deep enough roster i think the bottom now they're healthy healthy oh they're healthy and they're rested i mean that's a good place to be if you're you get a bi-week basically going into the conference finals that had to be dream come true for you nicks fans bruce yeah it is unbelievable it's like night and day compared to especially 2024 where randall was out and once og and his hammy went down it was like man we we actually only have five guys to play this game seven against the pacers that at home so yeah it's a dream scenario obviously everything could get flipped on its head if you come out slow in in game one and let the calf steal one here but i'm so excited for the matchups across the board spider vs brunson burner of course but then on the inside too mobley and jared allen uh dealing with mitch and cad is going to be an absolute banger and then we'll see who ends up on on james hart in between bridges og and josh hart but i i'm so fired up um for the series to get started to wrap up this conversation last question for you mom from thai yeah jump i mean you mentioned the rest and obviously that's important but like is there any worry that the nicks might be a little bit rusty i mean we just saw it you know the calves kind of have that really physical seven game series with the pistons is there any way that the nicks could replicate you know that type of physicality and practice like is there any concern there that the nicks may just be a little bit too rusty and the calves are coming in you know after a hard fought seven game series win and you know they might have enough firepower to kind of just stay hot and and go right from jump i don't think there's any way to to mimic uh fully what you have to deal with when you're dealing with spider mitchell uh scoring in the arrears ways that he scores uh he's got a full palette as far as what you want to see out of a score um but what i do know is that the rhythm of donovan mitchell and james harden might be something to consider if they are going to steal a game i think it's going to have to be a game one against the nicks which is going to be tough in itself just having to play in new york and deal with the energy of new york right now because i'm telling you now i'm here it's warm outside and it fans as far as but uh coming with that rhythm and knowing that they're coming with that rhythm and trying to jump on the nicks early may be the biggest game plan that they can go with uh if they're the calves because it's already hard to steal one on the road but when a team's been sitting for that long you try and catch them sleeping you catch them if they're being sluggish or if they just overly excited and just come out with a little too much energy and you guys are already settled into a rhythm together and playing with one another and understanding where you can manufacture points and manufacture offense i think they can control pace a little bit more if they're conscious of it but game one is the circled game for the calves if they're going to steal one it's going to have to be now because once the nicks get rolling we've seen what they could do did you say an array of ways that's a good bar yeah i mean he just donovan i'm he got the load take over bring it over the top he's going to shoot it from the outside he want to get downhill he got the floater game it's just it's hard to simulate all of that in practice uh i just would hope that you know when the nicks do come out they understand though he's going to do his scoring the key to guarding uh and dealing with the calves is dealing with James Harden a cluster of buckets from that guy yeah all over the place thank crazy yeah it is it is absurd to see what he did i mean he hits six moves on there and then hit a step back three and old buddy fell it's like good luck i can't wait and then james harden huh yeah oh yeah huh come back we'll see it's gonna come back uh when you're seeing james harden do that and i like to see him he's one of those guys that is similar to jwell and beat when james harden is animated when he's the guy that you could see it in his eyes and he's engaged he's looking around at his teammates he's making them smile he's making them feel their confidence roll uh he's a different player i think that when you can catch james harden with the big eyes and he's not as responsive to emotions or big moments in the game not as many celebrations or uh slow mo walk off so to speak home run walk off so to speak when he's not doing that i don't see him as locked in as he once was i love it when i see james play with the emotion the three-point celebrations it instills confidence in his team that he has control what does this mean aj what's he doing when he does this what's this i don't know what do you what do you think he's doing i somebody said stir fry or something i think it was stick fry in game seven he was this was a good stop talking about this hey you're the man we appreciate you champ man i appreciate y'all ladies and gentlemen imon shaker yay imon you i don't know what this means is everybody doing what's everybody know they're gonna go is cooking right far spider takes he has an array of ways to do i know aj's probably seen him playing person a few times remember hulkster guy russ soul and i asked him bottom here smooth barter dude that's exactly what he said yep you're right you're right he did like your way he did he was wearing kd shoes he was what's that what was your question man i see you wearing kevin rachael i didn't know you're a big mba fan man what a great question rest piece yeah rest of peace officer joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who might have a little bit more inside information on anything including potentially foxy please show recipes dude yeah i'm wearing for rest of the show joining us now i think i think you're gonna have to maybe embody somebody else pretty soon joining us is the authority of college sports as a whole certainly of college football from college game day ladies and gentlemen from what appears to be a very nice place good for him he's earned it he has no ideas there all he is is on his phone the entire time ladies and gentlemen pete family wow whoa the big 10 pat did not hold their annual meetings at the demoyne airport marriott i can confine nice okay that is unbelievably so you're at the big 10 annual league meeting right now is that right and what's happening there i saw you guys are voting on a punt gimmick is that what i saw yeah so you could really nerd out on this pat because i know your affinity for for the nuances of special teams and i've learned a ton about special teams from you there is a new punt rule i actually had a coach explained to me at the bar using like cups for for everything but it's basically an eligibility tackle guard away from the long snapper rule and you're calling it up there and in order to officiate the way this rule which has been passed next year like you would have to declare who your tackle guards that go adjacent to the the snapper are and then you'd have to change their numbers and actually guys would have a zip up jerseys so you know you stand outside i've covered a lot of league meetings in my life you stand outside league meetings hey coaches why god hey what happened what happened every coach was like we spent 45 minutes on the punt rule and they were 18 and they hate this new punt rule so yeah yeah being a diligent diligent journalist i went to the the punting bow who's Kirk ferrant's an aster about it yesterday and Kirk ferrant said it would be a clown show and that is not a man who is prone to hyperbole so there's a movement here to change this obscure detailed and i don't fully understand a punt rule but there was there's conviction of that so if you want to peak spring meetings topic it's uh it's an obscure punt rule that's in the crosshairs right now okay well i appreciate we'll see how they talk about it in the sec meetings yeah yeah well i'll be excited to see what sanki's thoughts are on uh having a zipper up new numbers i think there is an interesting thing that has happened obviously the punt formation in college most places like 90 percent of the places vastly different than the nfl obviously the rules between the nfl punt and the college pun are different in the nfl um only two people are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before ball is punted okay so ball everybody else has to pass it backwards okay because they're only two the outside people are the only two people that are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage to go cover before the ball gets punted normally about a 2.0 operation time from sass so that's a two second delay only the gunners are able to go in college everybody's allowed to go okay so everybody's allowed to leave the line of scrimmage as soon as the ball is snapped it's a wide open play do i do that so the role rugby type uh osi rules football type punt happens because i already got people down a field you roll to the right you kill more time get the ball on the ground you just steal it now some teams had been putting in their offense leaving their offense alignment on the field sending in obscure punter number in there doing the formation and kind of a little trick them boom we're not punting at all we're doing this kind of in the disguise punning formation where there are some rules differences as opposed to a tight formation so it sounds like there was maybe somebody somewhere that didn't like the gimmickiness of potentially what was coming and said we got to change this especially with the rule numbers we need to let people know but it sounds like the coaches aren't those people so who the hell would that be then how does this happen if the coaches are 100 against it yeah how's the rule getting where near past who's doing the ruling so i was told last night that this rule change was basically bred from lazy officials who didn't like having to officiate the line of scrimmage and how guys are like that should not come from officials having a cumbersome process like you know it's not van der veld we know that's not van der veld our guy he's big 12 official they need to have him in the NFL it sounds like they need to have him talking to the big 10 refs okay let's move away from the punning uh logistical stuff that you're doing from paradise there with the big 10 let's talk about a precedenting presidenos case i think there's been others in the past though but this one feels like a real uh boiling point potentially for the state of sports gambling as a society players on the field and addiction that could potentially be helped while also integrity of the game all kind of coming into one storyline with a future first round quarterback that was considered the number one quarterback in the transfer portal this year got paid a lot of money okay so this is a huge ordeal we have some developments pete could you tell us what they are because the way tone was kind of describing this is like it's going to be done in a lobby they're going to hold the court case in the stadium uh cody cambell is actually going to be a part of it can you please tell me a little bit about what we've learned and now there is a deadline i guess again in june 22nd how should we expect this kind of to go because this is a very serious very important thing that is kind of happening right in front of our eyes for the future of sport yeah in terms of on-field storylines pat i don't think there's a bigger one than the status and eligibility of brendan soarsby between now and when he'd have to declare for the supplemental draft he's uh he was the number one player in the transfer portal he's a top 10 player in the sport he's a potential first round pick he could be a potential high supplemental nfl draft pick if if he does go that way but essentially what happened yesterday was soarsby's legal team filed a lawsuit against the ncaa for a preliminary and then permanent injunction which would allow him to play this year and essentially to there was a lot of legalese in those documents yesterday to distill this to what it is is the ncaa actually hasn't declared anything about brendan soarsby yet tech has ruled him ineligible and then he would have to go through an intricate reinstatement process by the book if you look at what the punishment would be for what brendan soarsby has admitted to do he would not be able to play college football ever again like period so what his team is doing now is looking for clarity from the ncaa they offered in the legal documents they said they offered a two game suspension he would come back he would become the face of mental health for gambling he would be an advocate he would go talk about this and they bet they essentially pitched the ncaa on allowing brendan soarsby to return and having him become the face of addictive sports gambling in the country which is a very serious problem amongst young people the ncaa has rejected that the tenor of the ncaa statement in response to this lawsuit yesterday indicated basically like they're gonna they're going to run this out they said look we haven't even ruled anything yet and you know they made it very clear that the integrity of the game as you have said many times pat you and deba like it's it's critical right it's the most important thing fundamentally to athletics as we know it the integrity of the game so it what soarsby's legal team appears to want to be doing with this lawsuit is getting clarity will he be able to play will he not be able to play they need to so that's a june 15th hearing is what they asked for in lovek and he would have to declare for the supplemental draft the legal documents say by june 22nd yeah you see adam obviously amplified amplified that notion of it so essentially if you if you if you cut through the legal lease it is a it is an attempt for clarity for decision making moving forward for brennan soarsby okay listen can you please explain about where this court case will be this is this will happen in lubek texas and the ncda would travel down there and soarsby and his team which has already pitched a resolution would once again do that to the judge and say hey isn't this a fair thing don't we all think and then the ncda would be forced in that moment by the judge or themselves as they're declaring whatever to make a decision on whether or not that's right that's what they're trying to do here so the the injunction is pretty simple and clear what they want they basically want to say that the nca should have no jurisdiction over ruling on brennan soarsby and he would be eligible to play now you you are right pat that that this is this is unprecedented for a gambling case we've seen this with turn it ad chambliss and we've seen it started actually in west virginia with eligibility like we have seen judges come in and declare and declare folks ineligible yeah west virginia actually basketball started this whole trend of being a court in getting and getting extra years that the differences those were sort of pure eligibility plays be they medical red shirts or red shirts or time you know time in school this this case is drastically different because it is under the the guise of gambling which had been a fairly black and white issue um you know think about james and williams in the nfl right like he he bet in the facility and he was immediately suspended and there's been others that one just kind of comes to mind first and there was case io i was stayed a few years back where the the guys who were caught gambling were punished severely so if the nca were to and we have no indication they're going to yet but if they were to sort of negotiate something which would be a departure from how they normally operate in their enforcement process that would clearly be a drastic change from how they've operated in the past i'm not saying they will or won't do it it would just be a departure i think i've said this on your show or brendan soarsby to play college football in 2026 something seismic would have to happen because if he just like played out his nca case you know precedent would tell us he doesn't have much of a chance so is it a junction that seismic how would the nca the big 12 and others respond to that and judge it could they do anything legally like in the chambliss case for example in in other eligibility cases the judges have made clear like you cannot you know you cannot put any barriers to this is this is i am ruling this and this is what's going to happen will that happen in in levick texas it's probably a little too early to uh to say but certainly there is a home game element of this they didn't file it in you know state court in ballast right so i mean i i do think there's some there is some well well marked cynicism do we know who the judge would be at this point like the internet's posting photos of the judge we don't want to put it up oh wow wow wow is that the judge do we know if that's the judge i have not done the the judge legwork if i'm okay thank you but trust i don't trust that that is not real if if if any of the judges the what you say if any of the judges were not texas tech graduates i'd be pretty surprised in levick just like if this was in birmingham they'd all probably you know there'd be a lot of alabama judges and if it was you know you can you can just pick the state in the in the area yeah they could i yeah i don't know if you have to be as a law school uh i think they have a med school um actually you're wrong the doctors yes you need a surgery down there yeah maybe if we're going to law though pal that's alabama i don't know i just gonna double check uh kit from plumb actually graduated from alabama dallas a la maa he's he's a pizza maker yep baby boy alabama's gonna be great for sure good luck out there in paradise lisa javis pete something schijmek would have to take place for him to be able to play schorzby's case is certainly a quagmire for a lot of parties it is how about him when the seismic thing be sorry wouldn't it it's kind of seismic that the the judge could possibly be doing the old doing the old celebration with the mascot of the team what the players we don't know i'm not saying that's real but that would be quite schijmek wouldn't it that would be schijmek i do believe that would be schijmek let's give it away from schijmek moves in a courtroom for brennan schorzby which is potentially a nfl supplemental draft guy as well we have no idea what his future holds what we do know is the future is very bright for a man who's about to join us this guy's an american hero okay we saw him yeah guy is stick yeah lost his teeth came back beat canada gave us all gold thank god we have this man new jersey's devil star and also hockey legend forever jackie hugan look at those teeth wow holy hell where'd you get those we're back boys had a spot in new york we're back we're back in action did you have to make a lot of decisions on what the new mouth looks like did you think about uh did you think about potentially drawing in what it did look like like maybe get a tattoo on your teeth so that we can always remember it what a moment thank you for everything congrats on the new teeth how's the offseason going because obviously the olympics was right in the middle of your season we talked to you just a couple days after the gold medal win at the combine and you were coming from a game already and you're heading to another game you never really got to settle in have you gotten a chance to look back on the incredible run that this year was for you and where are you at right now in life if you will jack hugh's yeah um just been you know obviously with how everything happened happened so fast and then now's been a great time just to you know debrief at all and just hang out and enjoy my life so after the season you know it's a good time just get away i feel like and um and debrief i like you're a wires guy yeah trying to save the save the brain yeah i fell for that trap boys yeah a jay didn't fall for that trap but a jay's got the blue tooth on well erin's been telling me that for years jack you're the best how old are you again jack just turn 25 okay so the future of the league is obviously very bright whenever you're watching these players are you keeping up with the playoffs from your enjoyment of life right now yes yeah i'm keeping up pretty good and um was watching you know obviously all the games in minnesota mostly because uh quinn just got knocked out but i feel like when i'm like sitting at home and the game's on i feel bad for not watching it because you know as a fan like i do love watching the game and um obviously the playoffs are the best okay so let's talk about hockey showing up in a big way last night game seven huge so i don't know if you know this nba game seven the night before in detroit cleven cavaliers just beat the hell out of the pistons for four i saw it was like a 40 point 40 point game right yeah yeah he just got it can't pay attention to much but he saw the pistons he's from michigan he had to watch it all ruin game seven though like in our minds oh no maybe game sevens aren't real you know that's what we start thinking to ourselves so we've been lying about what game sevens are because of how lack luster that one was and then all of a sudden last night in buffalo the canadian show up it goes to overtime 202 over time game winner it just whenever you're in one of these moments or you see one of these moments and you see how fast hockey is growing in united states of america a lot because of what the olympics did does it make you pumped about the state of the league right now if you will because i would say a lot of people yeah i mean honestly the first thing the first thing i take from you know just even that whole series but i mean that crowd in buffalo is incredible right you know like i think that place was off the hook they're down what to nothing early and then when they got that first one and then when dolly and scored you know the roof kind of popped off so the crowds were make it so special and then on top of that you know guys are given 110 every night and it's sick like if you watch that goal the celebration is right um beside the penalty box camera and you can hear the guys in the huddle like how happy they sound that one one and over time that's like just a bunch of boys getting after it and they're so fired up their their season's still going on love that the lads you'll see it you'll see it on the celly when they get going you gotta listen to them it's it's just sick do we have sound wins game seven and that's sick yeah because you can really tell in there that's like for our sport whenever we watch mike dupes and obviously they're so heavily edited we try to see interactions to see if the team actually likes each other what you're saying you saw right there is like the lads are super excited to still be playing hockey with each other is very obvious well it's just like yeah boys we're moving on let's go like on we go and that's sick like that their season keeps going and obviously they're so excited i'm sure the mike dupes and football can't be that good because you know they gotta blur out everything pretty much pretty much the same in hockey too yeah the league kind of kind of decides you know what we're gonna see what we're not gonna see for you guys it's been pretty tight for a long time feels like hockey is having a massive explosion hey how come away games aren't a real thing for you guys pk came on our show because we're talking about montreal's barn we're talking about buffalo's barn and obviously colorado's gonna go crazy in vegas we've been a part of that situation we asked pk we're like hey how do you how do they handle going in these places and everything stats and pk were like no these lads now they don't care about anything they just go in there and they play hockey and then obviously that's montreal winning on the road and buffalo won on the road the stats have been saying that the road teams are having more success why is that are you guys just like serial killer mindset do you feed off of the energy from the other team why do you think that has kind of become in the case i don't know i think it's hard to say you know it depends on each series each team um i mean montreal you gotta you know every road team that goes into montreal is so juiced up because the bell center is a unbelievable atmosphere so um i mean it'll be interesting like montreal's a good example carolina's probably the hardest rank to play in just with the fans and the way they play and uh you know montreal's a good exciting young team and obviously their arena rocks pretty good so that'll be a fun series then i don't know colorado uh vegas is going to be a dogfight too dude the canyacks are going to be so pumped to hear what you just said hey they're going to be so yeah like i really do hate to give them that but it is a rocking spot and you know they get after in that building yeah and old buddy's friends from manitoba are down there carvis boys from manitoba are going absolutely bananas in there go ahead aj yeah jack i'm just curious you yourself personally what's it been like i guess we saw you i don't know three four or five days after you win the gold medal and it was all it was all happening so quickly you go right back into your regular season i guess what was the rest of the season like for you playing all those games after that and then what's it like now is is your life different than it was say six months ago yeah i mean it's that was the best thing for me is just playing because um you know it was the only real time i had you know unconnected you could say where i was just solely with my thoughts and i'm working on my game and trying to you know perform um every other time you're like your phone's around or you're talking to people and you're not just you know having that quiet time for yourself so especially with how fast everything came that was best thing for me is just keep playing and now obviously it's pretty fun the off season can hang your hat on that for a little while and um just you know i've met so many people that are so happy and proud of us and you know you get all the all the good stuff so not many yeah yeah it's been good to be an american hero uh sports next we'll continue digitally okay great out by you i don't know if you saw the clock i assume you did with your awareness because of who you are and you're fucking jack use i heard you i assume you saw that great work there on giving a real answer while getting out of the way here as we send it to the sports center show still continues right now on youtube uh x disney plus espn plus we're just off espn linear okay so what you just did there professional tv stuff i i zoned out for you boys he did great you did some professional tv shit especially with those bright white choppers too oh you know because we could see every word that's coming out there you know what i mean we could kind of see it and i appreciate your uh transparent about like yeah life is pretty good as an american hero i've i've been coming to learn i think it is a you said it tot you said it all right we got some questions for you we appreciate you taking time out of your life go ahead debut when do you start ramping back up i guess physically obviously you're taking time you talk about debriefing i know you guys put your body especially this season for you when do you start ramping things back up and getting back on the skates yeah like i'm working out already just because you know we're pushing our body to max all year and then you go two weeks of not moving really and you get stir crazy so um we're moving but getting skating probably middle of june um july ish you know i'm a guy that when i get going i want to be hungry you know i want to like be ready to roll and i'm like because i'm gonna start i won't stop so um i don't want to just like go out there to do it to do it i want to you know be fresh and when i'm really ready to start i'm ready to get after it what is getting after that we go from blue line to blue line just sprints every day are we on pond what are we doing is that is that how it works in your head that's what you think we're just bag skating all i do i think you guys are i think you're out there i think you're even doing like the the olympic sprinter fucking toe thing and i think you guys are just 4 30 a.m explosion around and then that's actually exactly what we do yeah that's that's it i'll tell you i would never be able to accomplish that feat you and the wrestlers you guys are the wrestlers i'm fucking fucked up the wrestlers in high school just wearing garbage bags fucking walking home we got cars boys we got rides home if we want they're doing that and then you guys early morning skates just a nightmare situation you're young though so you can still feel it you know you're you're you're still young out there you know you're a young lad living great life right now a great life right now think about him saying i want to get back hungry in there yeah listen i'm gonna live a little here there's plenty of time for that okay and when that ice comes call him which it will i will be 100 fucking ready for it obviously a lot of great hockey happening right now we assume you're enjoying that especially with the family recently accident go ahead con man yeah jackie mentioned watching quinn and it was unbelievable watching him for us you know let him know that job well done even though it fell a little short against the avalanche but with the avalanche uh what is their deal why are they so good they just have more nail guns than everybody else they have the most skill are they just they turn everybody into squids as soon as you know they step on the ice against the other team like what is the situation and should we just assume they're gonna go all the way and hoist the cup um yeah i mean they obviously have a special team this year i think name mckinnon is you know he's on another level he's been on another level the last bunch of years um and when you have a guy carrying the male like him you know drives your team up the mountain and on top of that you know macar and nick edge nelson cadry they're just a crazy deep team i think um they had 16 guys that scored in the second round for them off their off their team so when you have 16 guys chipping in you know obviously everyone's doing their thing and when you have 16 guys scoring goals getting on the scoresheet just you know it shows how deep you are and um i think they just do a good job of rolling teams over they're so fast obviously they're a confident team and you know they're driven by great players but just an extremely deep uh deep roster too carrying the male out there these nail guns just kind of do that yeah hell yeah squids don't really carry the male much it seems like kind of the problem the male gets kind of left behind like you see all the days your your brother was doing some real shit out there felt like your brother was driving the game hey it was fun that's the thing though yeah i mean that whole division was on another another level this year i think you know three of maybe the four best teams in the league could have been out of that division uh with dallas minnesota and colorado so just a dog fight for them getting out of that you know first two rounds firstly and now they got vegas another you know unreal team hey your brother's funny he's fucking unbelievable watching skate around i mean he's like skating circles the skating's outrageous obviously i i don't know how he's a complete beast and i think he was playing like 31 minutes a night like he's he's a beast one of the best in the league for a reason but you know just as a fan like i went to minnesota for two games and i had so much fun just watching him um do his thing so he's you know one of the most fun guys to watch i think in the league yeah definitely i mean that fucking backskating shit we're coming in with jersey well that's how we say it to the backskating stuff thank you i feel like i am kind of maybe becoming an ill gun this entire fucking thing you know i'm trying is this the one yeah he here it is going back that shit up he hi hi see yeah he does whatever he wants yeah yeah and also immediately afterwards we'll go hey one more he's another one and when i'm done with this one i'm done with this one another one like another one to be replaced in here too kate of boys just did something sweet we'd like to celebrate that's what i think we love to hockey culture so much we appreciate the shit out of you jack keep living your life buddy we'll talk to you soon thanks pat no problem man hey you all right your whole life super public how's that going good yeah it's going okay yeah this guy what a nail god this guy love it gentlemen jack you what a fucking life I negative. This is a positive. Okay. Okay. Jack Hughes was supposed to be on the show about ten times. And they, sorry, can't say, hey, we got this, we got that. It's like, Jack, go do that. You hear him. Legit, actually. Good kid. And then the Olympics happen, and he's right back into the season. Yep. And it's like, all right, yeah, now you got to carry the torch of America every single night, so let's go ahead and do well. And then the season ends, obviously not the way that he or the New Jersey Devils had wanted it, not that it would have mattered here with what's going on in the playoffs, it seems like. But then you finally get a chance to sit down, and somebody comes up to you like, hi, my name is whoever. Congrats on what you did there. Oh, thanks. You were watching? Yeah, we were all watching. Yeah. Why don't you come this way, actually? Yeah, fucking. Every opportunity in the world for you right here we've been waiting on. It's like, that's exactly what he should be doing. But it has been funny to kind of watch like, new American people, and kind of like from outside in very outside, like watching it kind of happen. It's like, good for him, great for hockey if he becomes super, super face of this entire thing. Yep. New teeth, too. Looks good. Kid looks good. Good tan, new teeth. Her team, you say, could use them right now. He only plays in the big ones. Yeah. Well, they say these ones are the big ones because these are the ones that say they are the big ones. And I don't know if you know this, the Canadians are taking a whole fucking victory lap right now. He's not even the captain. Just said he had four apples. That was all. Well, that's because Macklin, the prince that was promised. Who cares? We're talking about the Stanley Cup going on right now. World championships, you mean where the losers in the playoffs go to play? Okay. Matthew Kachok playing or no? How many Bruins are in there? I don't know. Hopefully, fucking none. Hopefully, they're all together. Practicing as one. I actually do believe Jim O'Hagans is one of the answers. There's a few. There's a few. Fraser Minton. I like that they do like they care like this. There was some shit where they're all lined up getting fucking player the game thing that it feels like said being doing this after 20 years, whatever. And his dad's there. Crazy. His dad's there. Why it feels like the world championship. If you grow up in that hockey culture, it does become something that really matters. And if not, since trying to make it matter, is this how everybody has acted from Canada with these world championships? Yeah, it's kind of well known. If you can play, you do go play all the legends. Try and get there if they can. And Cindy Crosby's just like making sure that everybody understands that this is how this goes. Hey, next generation, like we play in this if we have to, even if you're 55 years old like I am. Gumps, is that what happens? Yeah, absolutely. And that was you would know, Gumps, you rubbed this fucking turban in her face. I thought you were making that statement. I just said he had four apples, but I digress. He didn't want to be captain. That was a false report. That was bad reporting there. And I'm glad you're an insider now because I don't think that would have happened if you reported the news. Not under my watch. Yeah, he gave up the captaincy because he went late and everyone didn't know that he was going. He loves Macklin. Yes. Well, he didn't want to step on any toes, but then Macklin also said like, no, Sid should be captain. And the equipment manager is like, I can definitely switch. Easy. I can easily. If you want. And Sid said, no, I think he knows he's the next one. It should dumb. Okay. I would trade a hundred world championships for one Olympic gold medal. So that's kind of how you know it's dumb. Listen to me, American football. I know. I'm freaking out. Let's talk about American football. Jacobi preset. Not at first voluntary OTA. Aaron Rogers at first voluntary OTAs for Pittsburgh Steelers. What was stealing all the conversation? Aaron, what was nobody nationally really talking about at all? Jacobi preset starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. I believe he's getting less money than maybe Carson Beck is getting as like a third round draft pick for definitely partner or fifth round draft pick, whatever it is. Jacobi preset deal, I guess is nowhere near what a quarterback that would be starting games in the NFL would be in Jacobi preset. Allegedly, I mean, I guess the absence here would be able to describe it a little bit more accurately. Allegedly looking for a little bit of a pay boost here. If you're going to want me to be a quarterback here for the Arizona Cardinals, you guys didn't really address the fact. You don't bring in a vet. Is Carson going to be your starting quarterback? Is that how you're going to do this entire thing? Or are you going to give me a little bit of money? Well, I'm going to give you a little bit of money here as we guide into this new era in Arizona. We happen to have a very close source in Arizona who is a color commentator for them who might be able to give us a little bit more color commentary on the situation with Jacobi preset in the Arizona Cardinals. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you, Shippley. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you coming to us live for all of you. You're live. There it is. Yeah. The left. There it is. Mike Tarrico was able to figure it out. Okay. I'm going to do it as well. Jacobi preset, okay, in this situation, looking for more money from the Arizona Cardinals as he is probably going to be the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. As a person that was around this Cardinals team last year, whenever Jacobi got brought in there, obviously not a lot of wins. There wasn't a lot of wins for this Arizona Cardinals team, but it felt like Jacobi was highly respected around the locker room. How are you guys viewing this right now as a city over there? And what do you think is going to inevitably happen around Jacobi preset? AQ. Yeah. The draft just happened. I mean, everybody's excited about Carson Beck, but listen, he's the guy. Jacobi preset is the guy. The minute that he went into the game last year in place of Kyler Murray, he injected a new energy into this offense and they started to look like an efficient offense. Early it was just Kyler was just playing backyard football, just trying to get it to two guys. It was Marvin Harrison Jr. or Trey McBride. And the minute that he stepped in, you saw an efficient offense takeover. You saw them start to move the ball. You saw Michael Wilson start to take off and become really the number one. And now you started to see all these different guys, different pieces of the puzzle. As you know, with a play, it can go to five different guys, four different guys. It's not just two guys. So whenever you saw him run in the play action pass, back foot hit the ground, ball out on time to numerous different people, all of a sudden it was like, okay, that's what an offense is supposed to look like. And that team fell in love with Jacobi in the locker room. He is currently set to earn $5.4 million this season with another $2 million of playing time incentives available. So if he's starting quarterback, let's assume that's $7.4 million. Spotrack's saying, oh, about $4 million off. About $4 million off. They're unbelievable treatment of Jacobi here from Spotrack, who we have massive respect for. I had Jacobi to win an MVP whenever he was starting for a Colts. Now that was like six quarterbacks ago for us. But I think Jacobi, Par Sells, I believe is one of his mentors, obviously comes up through Bill Belichick, Tom Brady era. I think everybody describes him as an incredible leader. Obviously the team likes him. You're saying this guy understands what's going on in every single play. How do you think this ends up working out? You think the Cardinals end up giving them a pay boost in this new LaFleur era? Do you think they cut bait and start brand new with everything out there? They lost the schedule release allegedly. They lost the draft, team's ass. Everybody says that they're assing everything. Would you want a veteran quarterback to be leading the way? Or do they potentially just think about moving forward? How do you see what Arizona does here? I mean, listen, you can't sit here and win three games again. So if you think that Jacobi's the best option to get you to at least improve, we got to see improvement. We got to go this way. You got a new coach. You went and got a guy from the McVay, Shanahan world that you're expecting that you can do more with less, right? So they obviously can't put together the full conglomerate of talent and roster that they want because of what they're paying a guy in Minnesota right now. So you have to take what you can. You got to give this guy a little bit of a pay bump. I think it speaks volumes of what he did last year. Michael Wilson at 50 yards receiving in the first five or six weeks of the season. He takes over a quarterback and all of a sudden he's a thousand yard receiver and a butting star. 23 touchdowns, eight interceptions and 14 games for Jacobi Bressat last year. He played 14 games. Yeah. Yeah. And McBride. You know, if you look at his numbers with Kyler, I know three. They lost a lot of games. I mean, game started. Yeah, but listen, here's the deal. Played in 40. Whenever Kyler was in a quarterback, everything was get the ball out quick or try and play backyard and eventually maybe get it down field. And he took over a quarterback. The ball got pushed down the field, whether it was to McBride, whether it was to Wilson or whether it was to Marvin Harrison, Jr. We were done with this quick little short game and we were done with the. Okay. This is the color. Cronin Tater's sick of what the other. Hey, listen, we won three games. Well, at least it was a fucking NFL offense. It wasn't a thing. That's what he's saying right now. That he's thinking that maybe Jacobi gets another opportunity at this thing with a new coach. But on that note, D-butt has a question. Yeah, McBride talked about his career year now and with touchdowns, but every game he had at least five catches for I don't know what streak he was on. But how does it, how does Jacobi's game fit into this new offense? Obviously they went and got Jeremiah Love, who I think was the best player in the draft. You think Marvin Harrison, maybe he takes a step this year, but how does he look in this offense as far as fit wise? Yeah, I think, I think going with Jacobi first, right? I think he fits this offense well because it's a timing offense. I think that's what West Coast offenses are. When you look at Shanahan's offense, when you look at McVeigh's offense, when you watch Matthew Stafford play or Brock Purdy play, it's one, two, three, four, five. Back foot hits the ground, balls out to a spot, right? It's the same thing. Matthew Stafford's looking at the sideline thrown over the middle because he knows the timing of where it's supposed to be, right? And so when you think about that, Jacobi Bresset's not going to extend plays. He's not going to run the football. He's a pocket passer. And I think if you can get him in a timing rhythm and get the ball out like that player right there, that's exactly who he is. He's good at the play action. He's good at sitting in a pocket and letting his back foot at the ground and letting that thing go down the middle of the field. People are saying, I saw a tweet had a lot of you saying, Jacobi Bresset holding the Arizona Cardinals hostage has to be the worst for Arizona. Yeah, at the sign of the end. Yeah. But I don't think he's holding him hostage. I think he's saying, hey, can we get, come on, we have a little bit of respect to your side. Come on. I'm about to go do my thing. And we'll certainly call you if any other Arizona Cardinals news comes out. Hey, let me, let me say one more thing. We also got three really good backs. You got James Connor, Al Jir, and obviously the new guy and Jeremiah Love, right? You can just lean on those guys, make it a run heavy offense. You got a pretty good offensive line returning and then just let him throw a 10 to 15. That's a pretty good recipe for success. Yeah, especially with the good running backs, you get them sucked up. Yeah. And Giovi's not scared to do a high. You suck them up in there. And then who's right behind that? That's McBride. That's right. Get sucked. Hey, can you say let him throw 10 or 15 times? Is this the Iowa Hawkeyes offense? That seems like. Hey, listen, I'll take that. Let's control the football. Let's pound the rock. Let's suck them up. Suck them up, hit them behind. That's all you got to do. Are we going to pay that? You think they're going to pay 10 to 15? Would they? Yeah. That's going to be tough, I think, to sell. You going to try it out Gardner or Carson? Nope. Yeah. Carson can't have the ball off. I think I'll take my chances with Giovi. Yeah. Yeah. How much money are you giving him? 15. What's six? Tall. He's very tall. He's a great leader. My re-leader. I went seven and set it three. Oh, geez. That'd be huge. That'd be huge. Thank you, Shippley. Thank you, AQ. That wouldn't be so bad. I mean, I started out with. Hey, AQ, you're still there, AQ? Of course. Yeah. See what happened at the rookie premiere? Oh, man. Go ahead. Not one. I don't know my readers on who are those people. I'll tell you what they're not. Who are they? Any Arizona Cardinals in there? Yeah, Jeremiah Love, front and left. There he is right there, front and left. I see him. Yeah, but you don't say anything else. There's not much girth in there. Yeah, you see anything else? No linemen? Not one. Not a single lineman invited. Drew Aller's in there, though. Good thing they signed Aaron Rogers. All right. What do you mean? What do you mean? At your takeaway? We are. At your takeaway? And then in time of conversation? We are. Yeah. Yeah. Got another quarterback there. You got Drew Aller and Will Howard. What are we doing, Pittsburgh? Diggs, what are we doing? What are you talking about? Mason Rudolph also there. I mean, if we're going to. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah, what is your take here? You want Drew Aller to get his opportunity to shine? Or are you saying? I don't know. Is he one true to starters? He doesn't want to. He's talking about a practice squad quarterback. I'm not sure what they're doing with the quarterback position over there. They got Mason Rudolph been there for what, 10 years? You got Drew Aller. You got Will Howard. Why aren't we giving these guys a look? I don't want to ever give them a look. What are you talking about? Trying to win for Jacobi. Trying to win football. He's out on air. It sounds like it. You don't want them to go for it right now? Do you see Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers like good old days having a laugh on practice field? Who would have thought, I think you said? A quick release. I saw that quick release again. Hell yeah, you did. That's what you're saying. Big Mike's putting all the offensive alignment in the play. This is that they played in college. I love that move. That feels like good news. Troy Fautano over to the left side. Boys, we like it. Mason McCormick to the left side. He played 3,000 snaps there in college. Why would we play him there in professional? God, I love this new coaching staff. See? I love that offensive line coach when we met him. Campy. Campy. James Camping. He was awesome. Jari. Jari was awesome. Campy had a lot of great vibes. It looked like he was super positive. Yeah. What do you think Aaron and Coach Mike McCarthy were saying there? It was definitely a look at this shit. Could you imagine us doing this right now? 15 years ago? Yeah. Fuck off, Jag off. Price is something like that. Yeah, he gets one McCarthy. Who the fuck, Aaron? Kind of offensively they're going to run. You think they're going to go back to what they ran in Green Bay? I'm exact. My house is right over there. Bro, I believe in my parent's basement. You wouldn't believe it. There's a chance that it's a conversation. And Aaron said, why don't we just fucking call it right? Why don't we just call the right play here? Okay. I'm like, oh, you know, just I'm. Hey, fuck it. Take it easy. I am calling. He threw it to Pittman two out of four passes. Check that information for what you want. I think it was two out of five. Whatever. You try to sauce it a little bit to make it sound even better. I do respect that. I appreciate you doing that. But Pittman is a dog. We are big fans of his. The fact that he left Indianapolis, I do not love. I think that is the type of guy you'd like to have in your locker room personally. I think him and Aaron will fall in love with each other. DK Maccav so in that team. Yep. Not a single word has been mentioned about DK Maccav. Apparently Jeremy Bernard is just blowing the doors off people. You talking about Jeremy? Yeah. Someone's out. Hey, two of the four balls and rockers. That's the receivers for your fantasy team this year. Oh, I'm sorry. Who's running back? Oh, I don't know. Oh man. Rico Dotto and Jaylen Ward. Heard of them. Ever heard of them? That's right. That's right. Frick took over the league. Okay. Ever heard of Mount Washington? How about Muth? Oh, that's a one, two punch. You'll never see coming. Darnell looks like he is full mountain right now. From 315. Yeah. Yeah, which is obviously a problem for defenses. Okay, let's go to the other side of the box because it seems like you wanted to be negative about the Pittsburgh Steelers trying to win right now. Didn't know what it sounded like there. Yeah. A little Joe DiNardo-ness coming out of here. I'm here. Just a natural hatred for the home. Other side of the ball. We finally have a DC. Without football, I start to get angry. I'm sorry. I apologize. No, I understand, but we're talking about football and you're still angry. And I think, you know, there was a long time to September boys, long time. 114 days. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Yeah. I was keeping up with the USGA amateur four ball scores this morning. That's what I'm watching. How was it? Yeah, who should we track? It's tough. I mean, Drew Stoltz and Drew Kittleson. They're the guys. Drew Kittleson played in the 2008 US Open. That's where we're at. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Shibbler. Yeah. Missed that guy. Four ball PGA qualifiers. Yep. What a life. Drew Stoltz. That's old Stoltz and Nozzi from Coach Most, isn't it? Yeah, I assume. Yeah, there had to be some sort of time. I think they're probably, Grassley, Gus, or... Arizona guys. Yeah. Thunderbirds. Nozzi's on the... There it is. He's on the Sunday call, though. For saying the name. Yeah, he's good. I think he's good. Also, he's critical. I like, which I kind of enjoy sometimes. Yeah, he'll say some stuff. Back to calling, Crossover and Reggie were good with 3-0. Oh, yeah, yeah, great. I think Crawford was good. Bruce did not think it. Oh, wow. What? The Brewsters gave a... No, Reggie's great. Reggie's great. We're not doing last year's stuff. That's a lie. That's fake. We're all good. You know what? Yeah, it's a new year. No, he doesn't make it about himself at all. He totally lets the player shine and doesn't make it all about Reggie Miller himself. Sounds like a next man. Hey, Bruce. Wow. I don't like 3-0. I don't think that was the case at all. Three people booth are tough. Mike Tarik, I can balance it obviously, which is sweet. But the NBA playoffs, obviously, the NBA playoffs are great to hear. And if I was cooking, award season, you know, I was just adding an award. Oh, yeah. I showed you the other day. Yeah. Did you hear I went to an award show the other day, J? It looks pretty awesome sitting next to Blake Shelton, yeah. A'n Riley Green, people are saying maybe we're... Who, Blake? A'n Riley Green, we're doing it. What people said that? Well, a lot of people are saying, you know, Riley's in the middle of everything he does, I guess. I'm learning from the internet. Is there trying to figure out who Riley... Oh. Who he's got his eyes on. Who's his love entries. A lot of eyes on him. Maybe that's... Maybe it's a... Maybe it's a... Maybe it's a... Maybe we had a great time. I'll tell you, I had a blast at that fucking thing. We had a great table. I don't know what other tables were like. We had a blast. Awards can be fun. You know, he won a music event alongside Ella Langley for a song they wrote. Back to back years, they kind of win that thing, had an absolute blast. He gets that trophy. It means something. You know, the trophy means something. You put that up in the studio. You put that up maybe in the bathroom so you can see it when you got shit in your pants. Did you get eyes on that award? I did not. But it sounded like a lot of people had eyes on it, and it was right. Ladies and gentlemen, we have some bad news about awards. Jackson Smith and Jigba, wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. True sensation. A Super Bowl champion, an absolute... stud who won, you know, the offense player of the year at the NFL Honors Award. Finally got his trophy sent to him. Obviously, it was great. And it was a spell wrong. Oh, wow. It was a spell wrong. A lot of people say that they've sent him the defensive player of the year. We reached out to SourceSaves. And the league is claiming ownership of this. Hey, we're the ones that type up all the things for the engraver to go ahead and make the trophy. So that's actually, we think, an O instead of a B. O instead of a D there. And the typo was with the E as opposed to that being an F. So I believe there is a chance that this is O-E-F-E-N-S-I-V as opposed to O-F-F-E-N-S-I-V as opposed to a defensive typo there. I believe is what happened there. Certainly a typo. League is claiming ownership of it. I believe SourceSaves from the league are actually saying, and I quote... What about the year part? The year with no space there. It feels like that was potentially also a flub. It feels like somebody did the typing on this just thought, yep, nailed it, send it, it didn't get any checks and balances. Correct. Can't have it in the biggest league on earth. No. In Jackson Smith and Jigba, obviously whenever he won this award, he was not in the building. The way it was announced became its own story as well. JSN had a hell of a year and all of a sudden it feels like he's going to be motivated even more by it all, D-butt. And he'll get an dollar trophy. He should keep both for him for the entire situation. And I think the NFL will certainly be trying to make it right. Yeah, you hate to see this. I don't know if we've ever seen this before from the pinnacle. You talk about professional leagues and this is one of the biggest awards. After the MVP, it's the next one that we always look at. The quarterback is pretty much kind of dominated that award. And then you talked about the announcement. Obviously, Drew Ski, a comedian, tried to be funny in the moment. Most people didn't think it was funny. He wasn't there because he was preparing for the Super Bowl. But one in Super Bowl, one offensive player of the year. I'm sure the NFL will get this figured out and fix. But you hate to see JSN a little bumped out of the body. He's going to be motivated. This guy had an incredible year, a career year, some would say. And he's coming out with a bad taste in his mouth. And a big bang. That's unbelievable. And a huge bang. That's an unbelievable place to be if you're a Seattle Seahawks fan. It's like, okay, our guy that's different than everybody else is passed. No fucking respect. And then what was the defensive line? Fuck you. You know what he said at the speech? What did they say at the speech? Boy a model. My quarterback. Oh, yeah. The linebacker. And then McDonald, the way he just like kind of... Ernest Jones. Yes. Dude, this team, Sam Donald always going to have, because he was run out of the biggest city in America and said he was terrible. It's like this team is getting fed more chips almost, AJ. And that's insane to think about. It is. Because that's the hardest thing you always worry about. Hey, like Super Bowl hangover, all that stuff. You know, John Snyder, the GM, he's just sitting back loving all of this stuff happening. So that's the thing coming back to camp after winning the Super Bowl or coming back to OTAs and thinking, all right, what do I do? Like, how do I get it across to these guys? Like we got to keep our foot on the gas and last year didn't happen, all of that. And it's like, hey, sometimes I'm outside. Outside of forces kind of do that for you. Hey, they don't even know how to, they don't even care. They just take care of it. They don't care enough about us out here. You know what I'm saying? They forget about us out here, way up north. I've told a lot of Seahawks about that. I ran into a lady named Stephanie, I do believe, at the ACM Awards working in Vegas. She's a big time Seahawks fan. And she mentioned, oh, the prime time games are going to be good for the Seahawks getting seen by people. You know, like we're going to be forced to talk and see the Seattle Seahawks because of the amount of prime time games. And that's only starting for them. Yeah. Feels like that's only going to be starting for this particular era of the Seahawks. And Schneider, we know he's beauty. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. The man. The man. He really is. Yeah. He had to throw football. AJ used to always say that when we'd be like, yeah, yeah, probably sure, definitely. And then we got to experience. He was the man. I got to experience a lot more than anybody else around us, but it was certainly a fantastic vibe from old Schneider. Yeah, that's why I'm not worried about any kind of Super Bowl hangover because I don't think John Schneider's ever been hung over in his life. You know, I see what he can do, you know, night in, night out. And guess what? Next morning, he's up early. He's, you know, combing over different prospects ready to prepare for the draft. So I don't think we need to worry about any kind of Super Bowl hangover. If you're going to hoot with the house, you got to be able to wake up and throw the Eagles if you want to be worth the fucking this world. Exactly. Because if you hoot with the house and then the Eagles take off and you're not with them, then all of a sudden you're just hooting all day. And he has what's not happening, fucking altitude. You got to get up there. You got to get up. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Yesterday, or two days ago, throwing off the side of my house, Sunday, I guess, three to what's that, how many days is that? Again? What's good? What happened? That's not the first time, right? Yeah. So this is the thing. I didn't know this. Live on a lake, they say. It'll be a good time. You have good views. Yeah. There's also a chance that these birds, you know, prey, which Eagles are, we got two to live on property there. Wow. They will, they will find a fish somehow because they got eagle eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Well said. And they will, they will go in there and they will snag these things. And it is just like an actual, like a grabber. And then they start flying away. Some of the fish, a little bit too big. So they'll fight, you know, they'll fight it there and it will slip. And I think you just, it's like rain and fish and just smacks off a window. It is quite a little scene. Yeah. You know, explain to Mackenzie what's happening there. Probably not slip. Rain, you think it's strange. You got a nice edge that they like. Just right here. They're good stones. You think that's the death blow? Nice little problems on you. Finish it. Oh, so you're saying that that thing's moving a little bit and Eagle's like, hey, we can do this two different ways. And I think starts bouncing around, comes right around the house. Yeah, I got. Bang. Oh yeah. Potentially. I mean, these fuckers are smart. Yeah. Yeah, they are. They really are. They're, I told you about the sitting dog. It was like Nat Geo was happening just right behind the house. AJ, you remember that? Forget what it was Christmas, maybe Thanksgiving, one of the holidays where everybody was there. You remember what he was trying to, were you shooting, shooting ducks? I wasn't shooting. No. Oh, shoot. Hey, there's a fucking residential neighbor. Somebody was paintballing them. I can't be shooting these things. No, there was, there was a group of ducks. I don't know the official name. There's a bunch of different breeds of fish and ducks. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the official name. There's a bunch of different breeds of ducks. Was it a mallard? Mallard's green. No, it was a black head. I believe, I forget the, the full, but it goes underwater pretty good, these ones. And they stick around long into the cold, but the lake freezes except for little spots of water. So all these ducks just go to these one little, and I think this is where the sitting ducks thing kind of started. Sure. So then these Eagles, okay, just have literally sitting ducks down here. These things flew down, picked one up at a time, passed it off the ice, called in its friends, did that, ducks get scared to death. Guess where they go? The only other hole that it was. And all of a sudden after they're done eating the shit out of this duck, they go on up. Guess what we're doing again? Let's do a little roll-up. You're going to, I'm getting one. Domi's. Off the ice. We're watching this blood. It was. A massacre. It was a fucking massacre. It really was. And then you think to yourself like these Eagles are geniuses. I mean, they're probably preparing for this for weeks. Hey, we got the fucking little ice gimmick coming with these. Don't worry, we're good. We're just going to wait. Could eat. They are so smart, dude. So it was, it was, it was devastating if you were a duck fan. I'm telling you, if you were a duck fan, that was going to be a tough holiday. And it was happening right behind the house, middle of the day, great lighting. I think it was happening literally for the house in which we were in. It was. I'm a big fan of the, but if you're here with the house, you got to be able to fucking wake up with them because they got to get the ducks and efficient throw them off the houses and everything like that. If you're just boozing all day, you're not going to be able to do that. Agreed. And all this talk reminded me something we saw last night. Um, A.J. Good call. Hey, did you find a queen bee? So, so, so how do we get into this? And, um, this is awesome. Are you, is this your new hobby or how, how far into the game are we? Are we making honey for the boys? What, what's kind of going on here? I mean, eventually I'd love to make honey. I've always been interested in bees and curious about it. But yeah, that guy there, Brian, he's, uh, one of my buddies, his son plays with my son. And that's all he had a beehive like six months ago in his yard. And I've been asking him about it. And he's, he's really dove into it deep. So he's been helping me. I, that's a, that gray box right there. It's, you know, free plug, I guess that's an interceptor swarm box. So I caught a, I put that up about a month ago. I caught a feral swarm of bees and then that was, I was transitioned them into an actual hive now. So yeah, now we're about to, now we're about to go. Okay. Do you have to deliver them a queen or is there already a queen in the, They make a queen. They make them. Who makes the queen? The bees make the bees? The bees are crazy, man. The more you get, you learn about bees, it's, it is nuts how these guys, these people handle it. It's, it's wild. Yeah. They'll, they'll feed them royal jelly and extra like extended period of time to make the queen and that queen lays eggs. And I'm pretty sure I already got a queen laying eggs in my feral swarm that I got. You can buy bees online, but I didn't want to do that. My buddy did that. He said, no, let's catch a feral swarm and he's got a couple over his property. Congratulations on wrangling the feral swarm of bees that you can now have on your property. I watched Jerry Seinfeld as a bee. I think I learned a lot more about how they operate and everything. They are a sophisticated bunch, but it does appear if you get a queen that they all agree to, just like Canada did for all those years. Yeah. They'll kind of just blindly follow from my understanding. And there's big benefits from these bees in society. Okay. Remember there was a time, Nick Moralto, who's one of the most pessimistic people on earth about everything, was given thumbs up to bees because we needed more bees and there was like a shortage of bees happening. So I actually appreciate local honey is good for allergies. Bingo. We hope to get some Columbus honey out of the hawk hive sometime. That'll certainly be something we look forward to. But Nick, you were big on the bees there for like an eight month period. It was almost like an interesting little time of your life. Need the bees, Pat. They were facing some challenges there for a little bit. They still are. So it's good to see an upstanding citizen like AJ helping them out, giving them a home here, because we can't have the plants without the bees and then the birds and then that whole thing. Someone should have told you about that when you were younger. But you need them. You need them to keep the ecosystem going. That's right. I hate the fucking bees, I'll be honest with you. What? No, no, no, no, no, no. There's a fucking nuisance. No, but they're not like Canadian geese, dude. They're fucking different for society. They're not getting it, but they're just like always buzzing around areas where like I'm sitting and it's like fucking sick of this thing. So I go out and I go to ace and I have to buy the fucking, you know, and that's not good for the environment. Just spraying that bee killer just all over yourself. Yeah, exactly. So I'm at where we stand right now. I'm fucking done with the bees. I fucking hate them. Those ones stink, but honestly, those pale in comparison to them big fucking carpenter bees. Those dumb, dumb bitches who they don't. They do damage. They're cars. They fly in there. They're like cars. That's not saying they're dumb as shit. They don't sting you, but they'll just fucking fly right into your forehead and do it a hundred times. But and then they'll, yeah, they'll burrow into wood and shit like that. Damn, they've already taken down my, you know, swing set fucking structural integrity. He's calling into question now. Sounds like you got a wood problem or so than a carpenter bee. It sounds like it's on your wood, pal. No, because they burrow in there. They're crazy. Yeah, but I'm saying your woods weak. You need to get a little bit stronger. Maybe get a little pop. No, that would be that. That's not my wood. Okay. That would be fucking gorilla play sets would. So yeah, I may have to take that up with them. These cocksuckers, I'm done with them. Hey, who's wearing the shorts and who isn't wearing the shorts in that picture? I am not wearing a short. That's my, my first time even handling that opening that swarm box. The short was a bold move. So you're in the need of, you're in the full. I'm in the full gear, but yeah, I don't need it. Those trust me. These guys, we found a good swarm. These guys do not want to bite at all. They are just strictly working. Next time I won't next time. I'll probably just wear the head, you know, the head deal. Yeah, not even the gloves. You got a hard work and how have it sounds like over there at the hawk house. And we'll certainly keep our eye on the honey that you will be producing for all of our allergies to continue to battle this weekend. Massive, massive time for the sport of the future. Oh hell yeah. Might be the sport of the now, especially with the highlights that are destined to be coming from the final four. John, man, what do we need to know about these four lacrosse powerhouses? Yeah, pretty unbelievable. There you see Prince with the one standing up there is Naked Beery. He's kind of one of the tour ton finalist superstar. You will definitely be seeing more of him if they continue to win. He will definitely show up Duke. Damn near the surprise of the tournament. All four blue bloods obviously seeing Duke win that he's, but you do not see them being ranked. They won at Richmond two weeks ago to kind of get this entire thing started. And now they've made it all the way. That is Ben Johnston, not Ben Johnson. We got two ends and Ben kind of like Bennett and Johnston with the T. He's led them. I believe this is the goal against Georgetown to get them here. And then another day, Duke lacrosse back. Good for them. Duke lacrosse back. Congratulations. Kind of a stalwart in the final four weekend. This is Josh Diego. So he is a transfer from the Air Force. Actually, I believe he is a pilot. I'm not sure exactly if he is a engineer or if he's actually flying the things he's leading them. He thought his career was done. He's a grad transfer for his last year of lacs trying to win a Natty. There he is again. Boom. Huge goal. He's the best. I believe. And then Syracuse. Syracuse kind of back in the top. They are a kind of old firm. If you will, that is the Powell's alma mater as we know so well. But a Joyce Polina. He is their superstar. Good Italian boy. I'm sure. He is also a to our ton finalist. So we are set up for great games this weekend. It's Saturday, final four, and then Monday National Championship. Okay. That's the men's side. Let's go to the women's side. Obviously they're entering their final four as well. Stores all over the place. Yeah. Let's surprise is as you can see Northwestern Johns Hopkins one verse four. Let's go back to the graphic maybe and then two verse three. North Carolina, Maryland. Thank you very much. North Carolina superstar, Chloe Humphrey. She's a sophomore. She has a hundred goals this season. That's not a hundred goals in her career this season. I believe Bruce, you won the tour ton. You said last year as a freshman. Yeah, she's she's the one she is on pace to be the greatest women's lacrosse player, not just in college, but just in general. She's unbelievable. Twerk on last year, a hundred goals this year. They're probably the favorite to bring this thing home. But obviously on the other side, we got, you know, kind of the Cinderella story with Johns Hopkins and Taylor Haas. Yeah, we love Johns Hopkins and Taylor Haas showing us a lot of love. Johns Hopkins women's lacrosse team has shown us a lot of love. We appreciate them so much. Obviously that fantastic last second actual goal to send them into championship weekend here with a turnover in the bag. Oh, let's go ahead. We got 13 seconds. Let's go ahead and execute perfectly an entire counter whenever you need it. Kind of tick, tack, toe in the ball and then Taylor Haas ends up with a hey goal, actual perfection here as they move past Stony Brook. We appreciate the Johns Hopkins team. Oh, yeah. But whatever you think about women's lacrosse and blue bloods here, that's who we have. Johns Hopkins, it feels like that would be a school that I would think would have a good lacrosse team if that makes sense. Yeah, they almost had both. Same with North Carolina, too. Like they almost had both teams, men and women in the final four. Maryland, you could say as well. Who's that there? JJ Suriano. That's goalie, right? Yeah, goalie superstar. Definitely going to be a tall task. But again, Chloe Humphrey has 100 goals in the year. Northwestern kind of a budding dynasty. You could argue they are a absolute powerhouse now. Men's team. I don't know if they have actual men's team, but their girls team is unbelievable. So it would be one of those things where you wouldn't be surprised if Northwestern kind of ran the table here. All right. We'll be watching it all. Love sports. Oh, yeah. Great weekend for lacrosse. This is your favorite 20-roll. Well, good luck to all parties. Hey, we're so thankful for you. We got a beehive here amongst us. Oh, yeah. And he will continue to bring, you know, just kind of insights that only our show can provide for you. There was a hat that just fell off an alien head that's on top of the Larry O'Brien trophy on that table right over there. And we try to, you know, really emphasize all the things that really bring our show together. And that's why we added an Wu-Tang Clan album, obviously right there in between the two, because that's just a nice reminder that you can be fucking great forever. And if you want to go ahead and be in this business, you're going to have to be, especially because all of you are expecting a show that's not ass. And we'll continue to try to deliver that. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of the sports universe. Debut, great work this week. Safe travels. Congratulations. Appreciate it. Your brother got my daughter graduating high school. Wow. You've done it, you've done it, Lod. Man, first one, it'll be big. I'm sure I will cry like a maybe tomorrow morning, but proud of her, proud of Maya. She's going on to be at FAUL, so she won't be too far away. And she's hooting with the house. She is. Okay, well, we know she'll be able to go. She will, huh? That's part of it. Which we respect. Congratulations to you. All right, be a friend, tell a friend something nice. 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