Best of the Program | Guest: Sean Spicer | 5/5/26
44 min
•May 5, 202625 days agoSummary
Glenn Beck outlines Trump's geopolitical strategy centered on controlling global 'choke points'—critical sea lanes, canals, and resource zones—to establish American dominance in energy, trade, and minerals. Sean Spicer discusses how Trump's four-year absence from office enabled strategic planning and personnel selection that positions his second term for historically consequential policy implementation.
Insights
- Trump's foreign policy focuses on controlling critical infrastructure (Strait of Hormuz, Malacca, Panama Canal, Gibraltar, Arctic routes) rather than traditional diplomacy, positioning America as an indispensable supplier
- The intervening four years between Trump's presidencies were strategically consequential for planning, personnel vetting, and policy development through organizations like Project 2025 and America First Policy Institute
- Executive orders alone are insufficient for lasting policy change; codification into law is essential to prevent reversal by future administrations
- Iran's recent military actions demonstrate that economic sanctions alone are ineffective without credible military escalation to deter further aggression
- Cultural and institutional reforms (DEI eradication, higher education changes) are as important as economic policy for preventing Democratic reversal of Trump's agenda
Trends
Geopolitical strategy shifting from multilateral consensus-building to unilateral control of critical global infrastructure and resourcesEnergy independence and domestic production becoming central to national security and foreign policy leverageLithium and rare earth mineral control emerging as critical strategic asset competition between US and ChinaArctic shipping routes opening due to climate change, creating new geopolitical competition for polar dominanceJudicial inconsistency in federal courts, particularly DC, creating perception of unequal application of law based on political affiliationRepublican focus on codifying executive actions into law to prevent policy reversal during Democratic administrationsCultural institutions (Kennedy Center, higher education) becoming explicit targets for political reform and messagingInsurance industry leverage points becoming critical to maritime security and sanctions enforcement effectiveness
Topics
Global Choke Points StrategyEnergy Dominance and Oil Market ControlLithium Triangle Resource CompetitionArctic Shipping Routes and Polar GeopoliticsIran Nuclear Threat and Military EscalationPanama Canal and Strait of Malacca ControlProject 2025 and America First Policy InstituteDEI Eradication and Cultural ReformExecutive Order vs. Legislative CodificationFederal Judicial Bias in DC CourtsPersonnel Vetting and Cabinet SelectionDollar Dominance and Commodity PricingChina Rare Earth Processing MonopolyMidterm Election Strategy and House/Senate DynamicsAssassination Attempt Judicial Response
Companies
Relief Factor
Sponsor offering joint pain relief supplement; host Glenn Beck provided personal testimonial about product effectiveness
Byrna Technologies
Sponsor offering non-lethal self-defense launcher with kinetic and chemical rounds; promoted as legal in all 50 states
People
Sean Spicer
Guest discussing Trump's strategic planning during four-year absence and personnel selection for second term administ...
Glenn Beck
Host analyzing Trump's geopolitical choke point strategy and interviewing Sean Spicer on policy implementation
Donald Trump
Subject of analysis regarding geopolitical strategy, executive orders, and policy implementation across multiple domains
Cole Thomas Allen
Assassination attempt suspect whose case illustrates judicial inconsistency in DC federal courts regarding presidenti...
Judge Zia M. Farouki
Judge criticized for apologizing to assassination attempt suspect rather than condemning the crime
Pete Hegseth
Mentioned as example of personnel with 15-year relationship with Trump, contrasting with Mattis's one-hour vetting
Jim Mattis
Referenced as example of inadequate vetting in first Trump administration, known for only one hour before appointment
Quotes
"Trump is the first president in decades who seems to get that America doesn't win by being nice on the world stage and giving everybody some of our stuff. America wins by making sure that the world has to come to us for things it cannot live without."
Glenn Beck•~15:00
"If it works, and the early moves suggest it's already in motion, America doesn't just stay number one. We enter new golden eras on our terms."
Glenn Beck•~35:00
"The only thing that they respect is strength. The president needs to go back and bomb them into oblivion. These guys are not going to back down."
Sean Spicer•~85:00
"He is a refounder of the United States. He is as consequential as Abraham Lincoln and he may be the guy who saves the republic."
Glenn Beck•~60:00
"Attempting to assassinate the president isn't a protest. It's an act of war against the republic. It's aiming to decapitate the power structure that keeps the country free."
Glenn Beck•~50:00
Full Transcript
Hey, great program for you today. The D.C. judge that was apologizing to the man who tried to assassinate the president. Really? Seriously? I think we should talk about that and the language that goes around assassination attempts. Also, Sean Spicer joins us and what the president is actually doing around the world. it's important for you to know because it's painful and you need to understand it. Otherwise, you know, we'll just go by and nobody will notice and we will lose. But it is really important to see this is not this is not just some harebrained, you know, scatter gun that he's firing. Everything has a purpose on this. And today I take you through choke points and what that really means to you and your family, all on today's podcast. First, let me tell you about the Burn-A-Launcher. Most people spend a lot of time thinking about what they would do in a bad situation, but no time thinking about what they should do because those aren't always the same thing. 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So I'm going to tell you what happened in the Gulf yesterday with the war. And, you know, it's not great news. Um, but, uh, we got to deal with it and I'll talk to you about it here coming up in just a second. But before I get to that, if you want to, if you look, if you want the small stuff, you can watch cable news. Okay. They'll tell you all about the tweets and the tariffs and the latest polls and everything else. And that's fine. Um, but if you really want to understand what's happening with Donald Trump, you have to zoom out, zoom out so far in the, that you see the globe like a chessboard and the oceans like the arteries that they are. Because we are so used to small vision politicians that only talk about we're going to own the libs or win the next election. But unlike the progressive left, which honestly has a vision so huge that you not only most people cannot even see it, you know, the collapse of the West into a great reset, But they don't want you to see it. With Trump, it is a vision as big as what the left has done over the last 100 years. But it is imperative that you see it. Because it is at this moment the only actual plan to defeat those who wish to cut America down to size. So I want you to look at what he has done. and look at it not as random chaos, because that's the opinion you get everywhere else. I ask you, look at this different. It's not random chaos. These are choke points. There is a handful of narrow sea lanes and canals and islands and resource triangles that control the flow of energy and trade and the minerals that are going to power this next century. and you can love Trump, you can hate Trump. It doesn't matter. But Trump is the first president in decades who seems to get that America doesn't win by being nice on the world stage and giving everybody some of our stuff. America wins by making sure that the world has to come to us for things it cannot live without. So I want you to imagine the world map here with clear eyes. right now everybody's talking about the strait of hormuz 20 of the planet's oil passes through that narrow throat every single day 20 that means iran can threaten to close it if it's a nuclear iran they do close it they completely control it and they can charge whatever they want and no one can do anything because they have nuclear weapons and also china can muscle in so trump's answer has been energy dominance at home and leverage abroad flood the market with american oil and gas so no one cartel i.e opec or rogue state i.e venezuela or iran can hold a gun to the world's head then make sure that our allies know the difference between talking tough and actually being tough. So you have the Strait of Hormuz. Then the other choke point is the Strait of Malacca. This is like the jugular of Asia. 80% of China's oil, most of Japan's, South Korea's, all of it funnels through that strait. Whoever influences that strait influences the factory floor of the planet. And Trump is not blind to it. And nobody really has even brought this up. I mean, it was like a one-day story. He's used tariffs, naval presence, and everything else, straight talk with Beijing to make sure that they understand that the Pacific is in their private lake. He just made a deal a couple of weeks ago with Indonesia that gives us a major role in that choke point. So that's choke point number two. 80% of China's oil comes through that choke point. Um, another probably 20% of their oil comes from, uh, the Strait of Ramos and we're now in both of them. Next, the Strait of Gibraltar, you come around, you break, you got some oil. Now you go through the Mediterranean and you come out into the, uh, Atlantic ocean. That is the entrance to the Mediterranean. The next one, the other choke point is the Panama canal. By the way, we just did a deal on the Strait of Malacca, and we did another one with Morocco on the Strait of Gibraltar. So notice we have the Strait of Hormuz, or we're getting it, Malacca, that's done, Panama Canal, and Morocco with the Strait of Gibraltar. So, so far, we got a lot of choke points that we didn't have before. than Greenland. Greenland, this one we tried to buy outright because he sees what the Pentagon sees. The Arctic ice is melting. New shipping lanes. The shipping lanes are opening. Whoever plants the flag there first controls the roof of the world. The Northwest Passage and the Northern Sea Route. They're not theory anymore. They're tomorrow's Suez and Panama. Trump wants America sitting on that high ground not begging for permission from Denmark or Russia. Then there's the resource map that most people still haven't even looked at. It's called the lithium triangle. Argentina, Bolivia, and Chile. They are sitting on more than half of the planet's known lithium. Why would we want to have that? I don't know. Electric vehicles, batteries, the whole green tech fantasy runs on lithium. Venezuela is the largest proven oil reserve on Earth, currently run by a regime that hates us. Not anymore. And if the rest of the world keeps chasing net zero fantasies and shuts down their own drilling rigs and mines, while China corners the rare earth processing, who do they call when their lights start to flicker? They need the lithium in that triangle, which we now have a presence in. We've just kicked China out of that because of the Panama Canal and Venezuela. If that doesn't work with lithium, they got to have oil. They call the country that quietly secured the lithium, the oil, the shipping lanes, and the Arctic routes. Don't you see that's what he's doing? We're not used to seeing a vision like this. It has honestly been, well, it's been since Kennedy with a vision this big, but Reagan had a big vision, but it was simple to understand. We're going to collapse the Soviet Union. That wall is coming down. And so it was really easy. This one, I don't think the president could say all of these things. Now everybody knows, all the players know, and so he probably could get away with it now. But you didn't want to reveal your hand on what he's doing. And so he made it look like it was chaos. Wait, he's talking about Panama? Now he's at Greenland? Now he, what, what is it straight of Gibraltar? What is he doing now? They all know but you need to know because this is the biggest play I ever seen It not drill baby drill as a slogan This is a grand strategy Europe and Asia are virtue signaling their way into energy poverty. As they continue to do that, America becomes the indispensable supplier again. We'll control the spigots, the straits, the canals, the minerals. We set the price. We set the terms. You want to talk about America first. This is America first. This keeps the dollar working. If you lose the dollar, you are Venezuela overnight. We will in America. And I know nobody understands this or wants to believe it, but if we let the Marxists do to us what they did to Venezuela, we too will be eating our zoo animals. That's the way it happens. You collapse the American currency and this game is over, over. You think you have problems now? Wait until that happens. This is the only plan that I have seen, you know, that is actually looking to the next hundred years and going, okay, what is it going to take? World's most powerful Navy, best energy technology, best energy, best AI, best strategy. no one can take that away easily. So why should you care? Why do you need to explain this to your friends? The choke points. You need to explain this to your friends because American workers, real ones, not coastal consultants, not banking guys, they get the jobs building the LNG terminals, the drilling rigs, the battery plants, the ice class tankers. It means lower energy eventually at home, lower energy prices. That ripples through every factory, every farm, every household. It means the dollar stays the king because all the commodities are priced in it and the supply chains run through the choke points that we have or influence. It means China or anybody else that wants to play games, okay, go ahead, we'll just turn the valve enough to remind you what actually keeps the modern world running. Don't you see we hold all of the cards? If the rest of the planet actually does what the climate crowd dreams, they stop exploring for oil, they stop mining rare earth minerals, they shut down their nuclear, they pray to the windmill gods, then our leverage is absolute. They will need to have that. There's no way around it. And the reason why nobody's talking about this is because, A, it doesn't fit the narrative of the left, and B, it's not normal president thinking. Normal presidents manage decline. That's what we're used to. They sign climate accords. They hobble us. They leave choke points to whoever wants to play hardball. Trump doesn't manage decline. He looks at the map. He sees the narrow places that matter. He says those belong in the American sphere of influence one way or another through deals or alliances or strength, whatever it takes. Like him or not, forget about his personality. This is what he's doing. This is why this is America first. This is the kind of thinking that built empires, built America in the first century. You control the arteries and you control the future. How long do you think you're going to live if your arteries are all blocked? The world's blood is oil. It's energy. It's technology. It's rare earth minerals. If somebody else can block those arteries on us, we die. If we're the ones keeping the arteries open or able to block them for our enemies, what happens to our enemies? We don't want to beg for a seat at anyone else's table. With this strategy, you own the table. That is the plan. And it's not perfect. It's not without huge risk. But it is historic in scale. I don't understand why people can't see this. If it works, and the early moves suggest it's already in motion, I mean, we have, this Iran thing is worrisome, very worrisome. But America, if it works, doesn't just stay number one. We enter new golden eras on our terms. And the rest of the world can either get on board or learn to live without us and our military and the oil and the lithium and the shipping lanes that they've all taken for granted. under this new way of thinking, America is not going to be taken for granted anymore. But this is all up to you. If you don't share this with your friends, if you can't explain the choke points, if you can't look at a map and say, I want you to look at, listen to me, family, I want you to look at a map. I don't care what you think about him. Is America in trouble? Is the old system working the way we've done it? Do you want to manage the decline and lose the American dollar and our way of life. Okay. We all can agree on that. No? Great. Then let me show you what he's doing. You have to explain this to your friends because it's your move now. With the election coming up, all of this will end. You'll be back managing decline. So if your choice really is America, then you have to first think bigger and understand just this one concept today, because there's so many levels to this. This we should just put out in a series of videos and put it on the torch, Ricky. I'll just do chalkboard videos on this. But if you can just understand just the choke points, this part today, and show that you can think bigger. Maybe you can convince your friends to also think bigger. We have to stop thinking about just the next election or just the latest Twitter outrage or what's right in front of you. You need to see, oh my gosh, there is actually, he's changing the entire structure of the world that was established in 1945 and that was good for a while and now screwing us. he's changing all of it and it's happening in real time and this election it's up to you can we think bigger america can we still do that we tell you about relief factor see if this sounds familiar you're going about your day you know just trying to do the things you normally do and then all of a sudden it hits you ow and you didn't have you didn't have that pain before somewhere along the line it just kind of came in, settled in your body and then never left, never went away. And you're like, okay, well that's going to live with me now for the rest of my life. I've been through it. You've probably been through it. I used to have pain so horrible in my hands. I couldn't, I didn't say this for a long time because now it's over and I can, um, the most demasculating thing, is that right? 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Well, I would like, before I start this story, I would like to suggest that, um, if you've committed any kind of, uh, federal crime, if you're trying to, you know, if you're doing robbery, fine, whatever. But if you are somebody that's in the government, uh, that has committed a crime, uh, or you are being prosecuted by the government for some sort of crime, you know, some political crime, I think we should have a new lottery. I don't think if you are being tried in the district of Columbia, I don't think you can get a fair trial. I really don't. Um, and so I really think we should start having lotteries. Now I know the constitution says it has to happen, you know, inside of where the crime was committed, yada, yada, but too much crime is happening in Washington DC. And too many things are happening where the judges are like, nah, you know, I don't really think that's a problem. Okay. So you had a gun and a knife and you were going in to kill a whole bunch of people, but let me hug it out. I really think, I mean, you might get the district of Columbia. I'd like a lottery. You go in, you might get the district of Columbia. You might also get a judge and a jury in some East Jesus, Kentucky, where the people are really, you know, kind of all down with a DEI hug it out kind of stuff. You know what I'm saying? So you have a chance of getting the hugging judge or the hanging judge. What do you say? Can we compromise on that? Maybe? I mean, I'm not saying we have to eliminate all hugging judges. I would like to, but I'd like to be reasonable and say, you just have a shot at getting the hanging judge. The latest radical charge now is trying to assassinate the president, Donald Trump, Cole Thomas Allen has, by the way, have you ever noticed assassins always have three names? He walks into a court and what happens? Come here, you. Come here, you knucklehead. What'd you do? The magistrate judge, Zia M. Farouki. I guess I was so many things I don even know where to start with the name Okay But anyway he comes into Farouki courtroom and he doesn just he doesn just he doesn well, first he doesn't scold the guy who actually did anything. He scolds the jail and apologizes to the would be assassin. I'm sorry. Jeez. Whatever you've been through. I apologize for the prior week. Wait, what? What? are we talking to the same guy here? I mean, I would be standing in the courtroom going, Your Honor, wait, you might have this guy come in. This is the guy who went to the White House Correspondents' Dinner, armed to the teeth, shotgun, handgun, knives, fires at a Secret Service agent, almost point blank, would have killed him if he wasn't wearing a vest. He had planned it for weeks. Remember that guy? I think that's who you're talking about. No, I'm not confused. I'm not confused. I know exactly who he is. Now, he's not a kid. He's not a confused kid. this is just the latest of attempts to decapitate the leadership of the United States of America to blow a hole through the heart of the Republic kind of a big deal you know what I mean it's not like I went into CVS and I stole some gum the judge is there he's wringing his hands oh my gosh was he on suicide watch was he and he had to be escorted into the shower wearing a padded vest Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Now, there is one thing that I didn't like. He asked for a Bible. He wasn't given a Bible. He should have been given a Bible. What is the problem with that? Why aren't we doing that? Oh, I know. Because we're an insane town where everybody in Washington, D.C. hates Christians. So why would you give him a Bible? Give him a Bible. Maybe he'd come up with something like, hey, wait a minute. I shouldn't have done that. now faruki looks at the conditions and he says with a straight face my gosh you came in here you you were escorted into the shower they thought you were going to kill yourself and they escort you you had to wear a padded vest the whole time well this treatment is worse than what anybody on january 6 got what let me remind you for years the dc jail is has been a disgrace and everybody knows it it's filthy it's violent uh you know we could get into the reports of sewage mold denied medical care and yes restricted religious access especially for the january 6th defendants okay and many of Those were, oh my gosh, they were violent grandmothers. They were violent grandmothers who walked through the door. Mm-hmm, an open door. Yep, some of them were held pre-trial, pre-trial in solitary-like conditions for months, denied basic rights. And it took their complaints to finally force the U.S. Marshals inspector to expose the rot for everybody. But it took months for that to happen. This guy's been sitting in jail for a week. by the way the january 6th i don't remember i don't remember the january 6th grandmother writing well i'm gonna put my knitting down and then i'm gonna kill all of the people that are running the country no they weren't trying to murder the president some of them were really bad people but a lot of the people that went to jail on january 6th and were in solitary confinement they were exercising what they believed their first amendment rights were on january 6th and yes Yes, some faced much worse than what Ellen is griping about. Lockdown 23 hours a day, families blocked, lawyers fighting for basic humanity, lawyers trying just to see their own client in jail. So the record is really pretty clear here, Farouki. The outrage over January 6, those conditions were real. It's documented. And it was worse in many cases because it was dragged on and on and on and on, and no one would put a spotlight on it. But Farouki, he knows because he handled a lot of those cases himself. So he knows the history. He detained some. He fined others heavily. But now the man who literally pulled the trigger in an attempt on Trump's life, he's comparing, well, I was going to say apples to oranges, but it's not even apples to oranges. It's apples and hand grenades. So he throws in a dig about pardons, not erasing history. Gosh. What is going on here? What is going on? I'd like to move that we have a lottery system and keep trials out of the District of Columbia. Because I don't even think it's America anymore. At least in the court system. I don't even know what they're doing. this is a job judge in the swamp treating a direct threat to the president of the united states with kid gloves while the system crushed grandma and dads for far less i don't know about you but i think attempting to assassinate the president isn't a protest, okay? It's an act of war against the republic. It's aiming to decapitate the power structure that keeps the country free. Cole Allen doesn't deserve an apology from the bench. He deserves the full weight of the law, secure detention until a jury decides, and if he is guilty, and I don't know how you get out of the guilty thing, we have him on tape doing all of those things. We have him on tape saying he's going to do all of those things. We have his written letter saying it. We have his family also say he was trying to do all these things. I don't know. I don't know how you're going to find him, you know, not guilty. But believe me, in New York, I mean, in Washington, D.C., they'll find a way. You should get the maximum sentence here. Judge Faruqi, with all due respect to the robe, because it looks lovely on you, it does. Your comments reveal a dangerous softness at exactly the wrong moment. Okay? We don't need judges apologizing to assassins. We need judges who protect the innocent, deter the violent, and remember that equal justice means treating threats to the president that you don't like with all the seriousness that it demands and all the seriousness you would give to the threat to a president that you do like. Okay? And notice the difference between those who were not carrying guns and knives and threatening to kill the president and those who did. I mean, if this is the standard in D.C., then yes, Congress, the courts, the American people, you have to demand accountability. The rule of law is not optional. I know a lot of people think it is, but it's not. And it should never be when the target is the leader of the free world. Not ever. Farooqui. You sound like a dessert and maybe you'd be a lovely dessert. Would you like a little more Farooqui? Oh, I don't know. I've just had so much Dubai chocolate. I don't know if I could have a bite of Farooqui. No, no, you've got to have it. Oh, there's nothing like Dubai chocolate and a little Farooqui on the side. I'd love to impeach you, but that's not the way it works, unfortunately, with your gig. But America, you better start recognizing not left or right, right and wrong, because this is 100% wrong. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. Sean, my friend, how are you, sir? Good to hear. I'm a little scared. I sort of get very worried with the intro, like I'm about to be challenged. I felt like I'm going into a briefing again. I heard that and I'm like, the one degree matters. And I'm like, oh boy, it's like I'm going in for the big two. No, no, no. No, I lay your premise up to you. I was Googling. I was like, what am I about to do? No, no, no, no, no, no. And then, Sean, let me tell you something. I'm going to rip your face off. No, it's a friendly discussion. I think you will see my point. I think you're going to see my point. Oh, I know, but here's the problem. I've listened to Glenn Beck long enough that when you have a point, it's usually really insightful and brilliant. And I worry that I'm not prepared for it. That's my. OK, all right. All right. No, it's a Tuesday. Thursday I'd be worried. You've thought of this one anyway. You'll have an answer for it. I guarantee it. Give me your give me your theory here on the book. The theory is this without I know people were concerned that President Trump didn't return to office sequentially. in 2024. But the reality is those intervening four years, what happened during those four years to prepare him to return for office was unbelievably consequential. The way that he was able to think about the people, the process, the policies, he is going to be historical and consequential because he was out of office for four years, because they plotted and planned the return. They not only brought in the right people, they kept the right people out of the administration. They knew where to go, how to do it. And part of what I explain is what happened during those four years. People haven't really fully examined, Glenn, the Project 2025, the America First Policy Institute, the America First Legal. all of these groups all of the work they did came to fruition that allowed him to start in his first year and everything from nato to dei eradication to the maha movement it would have never happened had he not been out of office for four years yep he didn't have the time he he he didn't have the time to catch his breath i think he walked in and sean you would know better than i i do i think he walked in in 2016, I didn't, you know, when he started, I'm not sure that he started thinking he was going to be president. I mean, probably he did because that's the way he kind of thinks. It always you know accomplished in his head but um thinking Hey I been friends with the left I been friends with Democrats We all get along you know it going to be a different And then when he got in I think he was just I mean, it was, it was sledgehammer to the head every single day. And I think he was a little dazed and it took that four years for him to first of all, get out of that and go, what the hell just happened and who did this to me and how do I make sure that doesn't happen again? And if I've got one more shot, I'm going to make it count. And that would not have happened if he wouldn't have lost in 2020. You just nailed it. I mean, that's the reality. When we walked in, there was this perception, and I'd worked in the Bush White House, right? There's this sense that the people that surround you respect the election that the people voted in, that puts you back in office. And so there were people that President Trump selected to serve in his administration that I think we all thought, well, they've got to have the president's best interests at heart. They've got to be committed to moving the America first agenda. And they weren't. And to your point, like I even, when I wrote my first book, it was like you were going so quick, you never got a second to stop and think. And as I mentioned, every other president but one has been sequential. Monday becomes Tuesday, the same secretary of state, secretary of the treasury, same chief of staff, just keep working on the same project. You just go down to the Capitol, raise your hand and swear and affirm that you'll continue to uphold the Constitution for another four years, and then you go back to business. Because he was out of office, he thought, man, maybe I don't want this person in. And I'll give you the perfect example. During 2015, Jim Mattis came up to Bedminster to visit with the president. So he had recommended that he'd be a good secretary of defense. They met, and on December 15, 2016, we got in a plane. We flew to North Carolina and announced him as the secretary of defense. the president had known him for exactly one year i mean excuse me one hour before he named him secretary of defense you contrast that with pete hegseth it's been what 15 years that they've known each other yeah he has a level of familiarity with these people that didn't exist back then so um he said to me when he was running he said i it's my goal to be remembered as one of the greats, you know, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington. And I thought to myself, well, that's a pretty, that's a pretty high bar you're setting for yourself. Um, because I have, I revere those men, especially George Washington. And I have gotten to the place to where, um, looking at his policies, if they succeed, he is a refounder of the United States. He is as consequential as abraham lincoln and he may be the guy who saves the republic he is in that category of the top three um yeah here's my here's my question to you it's almost all executive order if he loses and he knows this he you know he has two years to complete a lot of this stuff. If he loses the midterm, which he could, if he loses especially the Senate, we're in real deep trouble. If we don't have somebody who understands his vision and what he's doing, we're going right back to where we were. They will all jump back onto that WEF bandwagon and it'll be worse than it was because they'll feel justified in going after everybody how how does he hold on to this uh and get through you know 2028 what what what has to happen so we don't immediately just have a president walk in and go yeah all these executive orders are over and then it's over yeah so you're you're right uh what can be done by executive order can be undone by executive order biden proved that when he came into office and undid a lot of stuff and then Trump reversed it back. So that's number one. So the short term, we need to continue to get a Republican Congress. We saw the movie in Trump 1.0, which was they just impeached and investigated him. They effectively shut down the America First agenda. So we need to understand what's at stake. I think I feel very good about the Senate. You look at, we've got a three seat majority there, seven seats in play nationwide. I feel good about where we are. We we could potentially pick up a seat. We could potentially lose to you, but I feel good about maintaining the majority. The House is a little bit of a different story. I do think that where the national media misleads people is by acting somehow. Like, well, it normally rains on Tuesday, so it will rain next Tuesday. And like, you don't look at midterm elections that way. You go district by district. I think what's happening in the redistricting front will help us tremendously. The money, we're at about $450 million of a financial advantage. And you start going district by district through the 30 races that are probably in play. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion we lose, but that's the short-term answer, which is you're right. If we don't keep a Republican majority, it makes it much more difficult. Number two, we need to codify the things that are really important in law. The big, beautiful bill did a bunch of those things, both in terms of tax policy and immigration. But you're right. If they don't prioritize what they need to codify in law, that could potentially undermine a lot of the wins. But the third thing that Trump has done, and we saw this particularly with the border, Glenn, is Biden said, well, I can't secure the border. I just can't do it without legislation. Trump proved that that wasn't the case. And I think and he also exposed a lot of the sort of the woke policies. So why why I think that's important is codifying things in law has got to be the number one thing to make sure that they just can't be undone while we have a Republican majority. But number two is by exposing these things, you somehow you do undermine the argument. A future president on the Democratic side could potentially open the border again, but they'd have a much harder time explaining that that wasn't what they were really doing. Right. So Joe Biden, we all knew the real motive of what he was doing, but he was able to couch to say, I just my hands are tied. I can't do it. You know, without legislation. Trump proved that that's not true. So it doesn't mean they can't do it. It makes it a little bit harder publicly to pull that off. But I think the other big thing, and you'll appreciate this, is I think culturally in Trump 1.0, Trump allowed a little to just go aside. So, for example, he never visited the Kennedy Center, didn't visit it in the whole four years he was in office. This time he's renamed it. He literally moderated the trial. I mean, he was like, LL Cool J is up for the next, you know, it's like Stevie Nicks and Earthway, you know, Fleetwood Mac. Like he's out there on CBS. So he addressed culture in a way in higher education, things like that in a way that he didn't in Trump one point. So I think that there are things that have been done that are going to be harder for any future Democrat to try to do. But I'm with you that the more that the Republicans can say these are the five things that we got to lock in, the better. So let me ask you, Sean, you I mean, you're a naval guy. with what's happening, I'm going to lay out a case on the guy's changing the world with choke points. That's, that's what he's doing. He's changing the world with choke points. And, and nobody really understands that yet. And they need to understand that president, you know, should get somebody out to, to really kind of make this point. But with what happened yesterday, this thing is so, I mean, we, we are the people that love to snatch victory, you know, right out or it was a snatch defeat right out of the jaws of victory um what happened yesterday what does it mean um where do we stand in this and what does it mean to the president yeah so first let me just say uh that any views that i express are those are mine and mine alone not those are the department of war the department and navy uh that being said i i don't think any actions that the president can take like he has to go use military strength again they will only respect bombing. They showed yesterday that they're willing to play games with the fast boats and the drones. They're not looking to capitulate right now. The only thing that they respect is strength. The president needs to go back and bomb them into oblivion. And I know some people don't like hearing that, but that's the reality. These guys are not going to back down. And the problem, Glenn, is fundamentally that we've now put ourselves in this situation that if we stop short of that, they will feel emboldened. These are the same guys who chanted death to America. So you can't let them off the hook. And they will not capitulate economically. The assets cost them about $5 billion a year. But they know. See, here's the kicker. It's the insurers that are the key. So you've got the Navy can escort folks. We did it in the 1980s. But the shippers not only have to be willing to sail through the strait, but the insurers have to be willing to tell the shippers that, yes, we will insure your ship, we'll insure your crew, and we will insure the cargo. And as long as the fast boats, these little PT-like boats, they're inflatables, there's drones, as long as those guys can go, I mean, one rocket-propelled grenade can do a lot of damage to a hull, to cargo, could take out crew. And the insurers are not going to let those ships sail through the strait unless they feel as though it's safe, right? So the bigger problem isn't just offering the support of the U.S. Navy to get them through. But the insurers need to have a level of comfort that they believe that the escalation has gone so far down that they're actually going to be able to transit safely. I don't see that happening until the Iranians are bombed into capitulation. Sean, I really appreciate it. I really appreciate your point of view, and I think you are right. Um, the book is Trump 2.0, um, really worth the, uh, really worth the read to get an understanding of who he is, how this whole thing came together and what he's doing. Too many people are just seeing this as random. It's not random. And, uh, Sean lays it out. Sean, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Appreciate it, sir. Thanks. You bet. Um, you can follow him. The book is Trump 2.0 and you can follow him, um, you know, online at, uh, I think it's SeanSpicer.com is his website, and Twitter, X, is Sean Spicer.