Summary
Armstrong & Getty discuss the decline of American public education, citing an Atlantic article on sliding literacy rates and sharing detailed educator feedback about DEI policies, grade inflation, and lack of student accountability. The show also covers Iran nuclear negotiations, military strategy in the Middle East, and digital body language in dating apps.
Insights
- Public education decline is driven by systemic policy changes (no-fail grading, DEI initiatives) implemented through colleges of education and teacher unions, creating a self-reinforcing cycle that prioritizes equity metrics over academic standards
- Results-oriented liberal jurisprudence (exemplified by Justice Sotomayor) prioritizes political outcomes and identity-based reasoning over equal application of law, contrasting sharply with conservative judicial philosophy
- School board elections are the most consequential local political races for parents, yet receive minimal voter attention despite activist groups pouring significant resources into these races
- Modern military procurement and warfare are being transformed by commercial off-the-shelf technology and rapid iteration cycles, particularly evident in Ukraine's drone innovation and AI-enabled targeting
- Digital communication norms (punctuation, response time, message length) now function as a form of body language that signals romantic interest and investment in dating app contexts
Trends
Decline in student attention spans and information processing ability despite access to advanced technologyShift from traditional procurement cycles to rapid commercial technology adoption in military applicationsActivist groups targeting school board races as leverage points for implementing ideological curriculum changesNormalization of grade inflation and elimination of academic consequences as equity-focused policyIntegration of AI and heart-rate detection technology into military targeting and surveillance capabilitiesErosion of professional workplace behavioral standards among younger workers due to K-12 policy changesIncreased parental awareness of school board importance as a political battlegroundDigital communication conventions becoming markers of relationship investment and authenticity
Topics
Public Education Policy and Standards DeclineDEI Implementation in SchoolsGrade Inflation and Academic AccountabilityTeacher Union Influence on EducationSchool Board Elections and ActivismIran Nuclear Negotiations and IntransigenceMiddle East Military Strategy and Israel-Hezbollah ConflictStrait of Hormuz Security and Naval OperationsMilitary Procurement Reform and InnovationDrone Warfare and AI-Enabled TargetingSupreme Court Jurisprudence: Results-Oriented vs. Law-BasedEqual Protection Under Law vs. Identity-Based JusticeDigital Body Language in Dating AppsWritten Communication Conventions and ProfessionalismWorkplace Behavioral Standards for Young Workers
Companies
FIRE (Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression)
Greg Lukianoff, co-host of FIRE, discussed free speech issues and school policy challenges on the show
Hinge
Dating app cited for research on digital body language; Logan Urie is director of relationship science
Rough Greens
Dog supplement company offering natural antioxidants and anti-inflammatory compounds for aging dogs
The Atlantic
Published article 'America's Sliding Toward Illiteracy' documenting worst decade in American education history
People
Jack Armstrong
Co-host of the show broadcasting from Salina, Kansas; discussed education decline and geopolitical issues
Joe Getty
Co-host of the show; led discussions on education policy, Marxist theory, and Supreme Court jurisprudence
Greg Gutfeld
Quoted discussing how education philosophies ruining American schools are operating in Canada
Greg Lukianoff
Guest discussing free speech issues and education policy challenges
Mike Lyons
Guest expert discussing Iran negotiations, Middle East military strategy, drone warfare, and procurement reform
Justice Sonia Sotomayor
Discussed for results-oriented jurisprudence prioritizing identity and political outcomes over equal law application
Justice Brett Kavanaugh
Contrasted with Sotomayor for law-and-precedent-based judicial philosophy on immigration reasonable suspicion
Logan Urie
Expert quoted on digital body language in dating apps and how messaging patterns signal romantic interest
Tim Sandefur
Upcoming guest to discuss new book about the Declaration of Independence
David Petraeus
Quoted on how drone technology and NATO training in Estonia are changing the face of modern warfare
Norman Schwarzkopf
Quoted with humorous observation about military alliances and French military capability
Quotes
"The past decade may rank as one of the worst in the history of American education. It marks a stark reversal from what was once a hopeful story."
The Atlantic
"I have worked with four and five year olds in schools who have genders that their parents don't want them to have."
Canadian Professor (quoted)
"It's because the critical theory stuff I've been talking about caught hold first in the colleges of education in the United States. That's where the infection established itself before it spread."
Joe Getty
"Your school board member impacts your way of life more than Trump or AOC. It's not politically sexy, but make it that way."
Anonymous Educator
"Going into battle without the French is like going hunting without an accordion."
Norman Schwarzkopf
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and getty. And now he is strong and getty. The other day we talked about how America's government schools are failing and read a fair amount of an unbelievably good, shockingly good piece from the Atlantic entitled America's Sliding Toward Illiteracy. And as Greg Gutfeld points out here, the philosophies that have ruined American schools are operating above the border as well. It's far worse in schools. Listen to this Canadian professor. I have worked with four and five year olds in schools who have genders that their parents don't want them to have. Parents rights have suddenly been weaponized against trans and non-binary and two-spirit youth. I want us to get really comfortable with challenging right wing Christian patriarchy. I want to say things like you can do work around sexual orientation and gender diversity with children of all ages. And so I want us to think about these conversations in kindergarten. Of course you do. You sick. Repulsive. Repulsive. Repulsive. Yeah, it is absolutely repulsive. That is a dedicated neo-Marxist because they want to erase all of the the binaries. It gets into political theory, but that's somebody who wants to sexualize children early and then convince them that they are an oppressed gender or sexuality because workers of the world unite turned into we actually got an email saying Joe, what do you mean by neo-Marxist? I've explained this many times, but I'm delighted to explain it many more times if that's what it takes. Workers of the world unite and Greg Luganov actually referred to this last hour didn't work because the workers of the world are like, you know, I'm getting paid okay and I'm up for shop foreman next month. And you know, honestly, I'm starting a side business. So thanks. I'm not going to throw off my chains and embrace communism. My life isn't that bad. So when that failed in the 20th century, the dedicated Marxists thought, okay, what do we do now? And some of those French guys who were mentioning last hour came up with every minority of the world unite. Racial minorities weren't quite enough. So they started to invent sexual minorities and two spirit and all sorts of queer theory and gender theory and all this trying to convince everybody that they're an oppressed minority. That was the plan of neo-Marxism that came out of the French intellectual slums in the 20th century. Like the 60s, I think was the real hot time of it. And the 70s, these guys were celebrated as great thinkers, including by the left in the U.S. Anyway, so that's what I'm talking about. We got a hell of a lot of reaction from educators to our discussion of the Atlantic peace and some of the miserable, miserable stats going on in American education right now. The lead of the Atlantic peace is the past decade may rank as one of the worst in the history of American education. It marks a stark reversal from what was once a hopeful story. And if the Atlantic is saying that, babe, things are bad. So onto the reaction, I'm going to keep everybody anonymous here, but Aileen Nonomis is from a fairly small town in Idaho who says, I'm an avid listener. Thank you very much. And wanted to share my experience of teaching in a small town, very red North Idaho, you are correct in saying that education is liberal everywhere. What I said was, I don't care if your state or your town is ruby red. There is a sapphire blue patch. It is your local schools. Anyway, she goes on. The kids in my school are allowed to wear tails and ears. They identify as animals. Teachers openly discuss their contempt for conservative values and traditional families. They mock parents who have chosen to pull their children from school, stone, school. They find it ridiculous that parents are allowed to see the curriculum at all. And to see all the curriculum that we use. When we moved here six years ago, I naively thought I would be entering a place where we would encounter like-minded educators. I was sorely mistaken. I will say that the indoctrination is more subtle than the parents are watching for it. But even in a county that went 76% for Trump, it is alive and well in the schools. Keep that in mind. It's because the critical theory stuff I've been talking about caught hold first in the colleges of education in the United States. That's where the infection established itself before it spread. I won't bore you with the history of it, but trust me when I say that, it's true. Long note from Al Nonomous here. We'll see how much we can get to, but it's absolutely fantastic. And Al, we thank you for it. It's spring break, so I'm listening in real time. Everything you two are saying about education is 100% accurate and you may even be underplaying it a bit, aka under egging the pudding. Appreciate the sense of humor. I'm closing in on 25 years in the classroom and I have seen the decline happen in real time. Most of us could see it coming as policies were being implemented, but were powerless as the unions, government and education schools have created an unholy alliance of far left training grounds in our public charter and in some cases private schools. Yeah, we're aware of that. Some of those high dollar schools in Manhattan are as insane as anybody. These policies were implemented behind the buzzwords, equity, inclusion, belonging we're all aware of that have acted as a Trojan horse into the mainstream of public education. I can even nail down two points in time when the changes started. Older teachers may have conflicting timelines, but the first was in 2007 when our superintendent at the time decreed that there would be no more Fs as grades and no more suspensions from school. That was prime Obama philosophy time. That's when that philosophy that he espoused started to take hold in schools before he was pushing it audibly. Anyway, the next major change was spring of 2016 when our professional development began focusing on pronouns and seeing everything through the lens of race rather than teaching practices. That's Fanon and Foucault and critical theory. Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, because the way you wake up, quote unquote, as the Marxists would say, the races to unite and throw off the chains of capitalism and Western civilization is you've got to convince them they're oppressed, even if they have good lives. Hence seeing everything through the lens of race. All right, back to the email. All of this was set up around the goal of no dropouts and 100% graduation rate. As you two have pointed out many times, once you measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure. These two major shifts and resulting goals have acted under as umbrellas under which a myriad of changes have occurred. I'm throwing this together off the cuff, but I could literally write a book about this topic. Yeah, well, as he points out, no dropouts and 100% graduation sounds wonderful unless you throw away all of your standards to get there. Right? Back to the email. What happened next was a slow burn, but to no one's surprise, once students figured out there were no consequences for anything, behavior gradually became worse and grades plummeted. Once the grades plummeted, administrators began pressuring teachers to inflate grades, not just Fs to Ds, but Fs to at least Cs are better. If you pushed back, life could get real uncomfortable very quickly. If you really dig your heels in, a counselor or admin will just change the grade and now you're seen as a troublemaker. If a building principal went against these policies, they were either moved or nudged toward retirement. District administrators were subject to gatekeeping regarding their beliefs, meaning decision makers who matter were all soon on the same page. That's the DEI. DEI doesn't mean diversity, equity, inclusion. All it means is more neo-Marxists. And do you notice how it's never a black conservative, for instance, who is included in the eye of inclusion? Never, never, never. Some of my colleagues enthusiastically jumped on board while others went along just to get along. Some of us complained under our breath, but decided to try our best to still teach our butts off every day and do what's best for students. It worked for a while, but it's caught up to us now. All the veteran teachers I know with more than 20 years of experience are tired, beaten down and miserable. Those close enough to retirement are lucky, but many like myself are too far away from the end to take solace in knowing we'll just have to make it another year or two. It's like swimming across a river when you're too far away from shore to get to the other side and too far away to go turn back. Here's what I'm seeing every day that most people don't understand. I teach AP classes with upper grades of high school. These are kids who are applying to and in often cases getting into good universities. Most of my students are nice, polite kids who mean well. In some cases they are eager to learn, but they haven't been conditioned how to be students in the sense that their attention spans are very short and they don't process information well. Some people may take issue with the term conditioning, but there are parameters of behaviors and skills people are expected to work with in any given situation. Some may call it professionalism in the world, but it's not. It's not professionalism in the workplace as no job allows you to behave like you do, like you and only do the tasks you feel like doing. We don't even do that in our own homes, feeding ourselves and doing laundry are required. Students are allowed to show up to whatever class, whenever, say whatever and do whatever they please. The students with self-discipline stand out while most students don't complete assignments and have no idea what it looks like to study. They fall apart if subjects get difficult and it's almost impossible to get a professionalization around a controversial topic. Students know emotion and feeling, but that's about it. Education has never been perfect. I didn't get the greatest high school education, but kids are getting screwed now between low skill level and an increasing inability to think we're dooming these young people to a difficult future. We got here via many of the policies you too have talked about on your show. Equitable grading practices requiring a 50% grade for a missing assignment rather than a zero. Every exam and assignment is allowed to be taken over and over again. Storative practices and conversations when students break the rules. There is a very good chance your child is sitting in the classroom with another student who everyone knows has committed a violent crime at school and they still get to be in school. Kids will sometimes take take honors or advanced classes way above their skill level so they can be in a safe environment. Funding is going to administration rather than into the classroom where more staff and materials are needed. Teachers often have to spend a ton of time cobbling together material and curriculum to survive the disciplinary tasks, writing referrals and calling home to an unanswered phone. Those things take a back seat. This is just scratching the surface of issues. Like I said, I could write a book. Public education is salvage salvageable, but it's going to take an army of dedicated parents, teachers, legislators and community members. And it's going to be a fight requiring years of patience and hard work. First and most immediate for parents help us out with the phones. No kid in elementary school needs a smartphone. I may even suggest no kid under the age of 16 needs one. It's only necessary now because we've allowed it. And then he says, I get it. I understand why people have them, but we've got to stop. Second, pay attention to who is on your school board. This is the most important elected position in your life right now. The activist groups are pouring truckloads of money into school board races because they are vital and no one pays attention. Go to meetings, listen to what they say. Your school board member impacts your way of life more than Trump or AOC. It's not politically sexy, but make it that way. Pay attention to who is getting the admin jobs. Never vote for a school board candidate who is an activist. Never vote for a candidate who is a union member teacher in another district. Never vote for someone who has crazy crap in their social media. Never vote for a candidate who uses any of the DEI buzzwords, even if they don't know what they mean. If there is only one candidate on the ballot and they fit one of these categories, run against them yourself and make them publicly take a stand on grading, behavior and where the money should go. Also feel free to stay away from crazy people on the right as well. And you list some, same goes for your city council, but the school board thing is incredibly important. It goes on for several more paragraphs. It's beautifully written. Mr. Anonymous, thank you so much for taking the time. We're going to check in with Jack. Any reaction to that? Drop us a note. Mailbag at armstrongingeddy.com. The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that prices for nearly everything rose by nine-tenths of 1% between February and March and 3.3% from last March to this. With Iran closing down a crucial supply channel for oil, gasoline was a major driver of last month's increase in consumer prices. Energy costs are up 12.5% in the past 13 months. When energy goes up, everything goes up. Is it a trend or a blip? Nobody knows. Please welcome the co-host of the show to the show. Live from the heartland, Salina, Kansas. Not Salina, not Salinas. Salina, Kansas. Jack Armstrong. Hello, Jack. So inflation is up 3.3%. What are people saying about that? It's the most in a couple of years. Yeah, it's all Gulf related. Yeah, that ain't good. That's not good. I just read an interesting thing about how difficult it is for the secret service to guarantee the security of JD Vance over there in Pakistan doing negotiating with that government. It's very shaky in terms of their ability to control things. So Islamist fundamentalist nut jobs could make it very dangerous for our leading team either in the government place footsie with various radical groups just to keep them from taking out the government. Boy, that'd be a heck of a thing. Yeah, so it'll be something to keep a person's eye on. Tell me today. It's been great fun. We had a hell of a nice conversation with Greg Lukianoff from FIRE. And I read and I'm sorry you missed this. I read a couple of emails from educators reacting to our segment on America's sliding into illiteracy, a worst decade in American education from the Atlantic. Powerful stuff. I will just tell you this. Everybody said 100% right and you guys may have underplayed it. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Up against a pretty powerful force though. Yeah, but you know what? Yeah. Well, the teachers unions and the teachers colleges, which are radical left and and and government too. But one thing, one thing that several emails had in common, including the one I'm holding in my hand is calling out the parents. Where are the parents? Know what's being taught. Know your teacher. Go to school board meetings. Figure out who's running and vote accordingly. Don't vote for activists. They're all crazy. They're well, they're Marxists or they're well meaning soft heads who don't realize they're doing the work. So the work of the Marxist anyway. Yeah, it seems like the whole country or half the country anyway. I sleep this switch on the whole public education thing for many decades now, just assuming that it would be, you know, just cruise along the way it was years ago. But clearly not. Are you going to get a cozy burger as a gesture and support a free speech? We were talking about that yesterday. Yes, it is. I got national attention and a number of major litigation groups who fight for free speech or fighting for the freedom of this burger place to have a mural on its side. Anyway, the short answer to the question is yes, I'm going to get a cozy burger. Excellent. Excellent. What else is on your mind? News wise this morning, anything in particular or you just doing the family thing? I'm just doing the family thing really and and realizing what it's like to live the way most people probably do where they don't pay the attention to the news on a 24 hour news cycle. And it's really not on your mind that much. Yeah, in the airport yesterday and hanging out on planes and nobody's talking about the news of the day at all. Right. Was a travel not a nightmare because if it's not a nightmare, you've won the lottery. It was couldn't have been easier. Nothing was crowded anywhere and no delays of any kind or anything like that. So while we were joking that this segment would be a little short and I was going to bump you like a guest who didn't quite get on the tonight's show, but we'll rebook Jack Armstrong. Sorry we couldn't get to you, but boy what a show we had. My clients is coming up next segment. We're going to figure out what's going on. We're going to figure out what's going on in the Gulf. No, we're not. We're going to try to figure out any aspect of what's going on right now and comprehend it. So I'm going to figure out how to listen to that because I'm pretty interested myself. All right, go enjoy the family and beautiful Salina and tell the town I miss it and thanks for launching our careers. Talk to you later. I'm going to attain myself to the cozy burger. Yeah, yeah, ship me a bag of them before you do. All right, much more to come. If you can't stick around, grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. If Iran wants to let this negotiation fall apart in a conflict where they were getting hammered over Lebanon, which has nothing to do with them and which the United States never once said was part of the ceasefire, that's ultimately their choice. We think that would be dumb, but that's their choice. The dizzying situation in the Gulf, the Straits of Hormuz, the U.S., Iran, Israel, Lebanon and all the players. Let's dive right into it with military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, welcome. How are you today? It's great to be back with you. Great. Always good to have you. So, you know, I think both of us have probably read about studied various peace agreements through history and how some of them were a bit rocky or, you know, there were hidden elements that the layman didn't learn about until many years later. But I don't recall anything as wobbly and complicated as this in recent memory. Yeah, I don't never seen sides so far apart. I mean, I guess the 15 points on our side versus the 10 on their side, they are the most maximalist demands you've ever seen. I'm coming from Iran or from really any country basically saying that they could do whatever they want, whenever they want to do it, and they'll do whatever they want to another country whenever they want to do it to them too. So, I don't know where this will start. You know, Trump, I think, had originally the beginning of the week with a lot of his tweets and comments where he's just trying to out crazy the crazy people on some level, talking to the Iranians in language they understand. I'm just not sure they understand any language. I'm just not sure this is going to go anywhere. They just don't have a history of negotiating anything, giving in on anything whatsoever. I think the Obama administration was completely taken to the woodshed by these guys and they're going to try. We'll see what happens. So, is that line of thought leading to the conclusion that the only thing we can do is so reduce their capabilities that the intransigent maniacs that run Iran just won't be as dangerous? Yeah, I think that's really where we're at. We're back to a containment foreign policy. If we can't get some kind of resolution within the next 14 days, I don't think it's going to take 14 days. I think we're going to draw this conclusion that they're not going to give in on anything before that. The vice president's comment about this being linked to Hezla is exactly the point. I mean, Israel has its own security concerns and the fact that the country with 9 million people is still punching up against the country with 90 million and doing pretty well. There's a lot of other potential solutions there. The French could get involved with Lebanon and help the Lebanese government to saw him Hezbollah that's there. I mean, think about Hezbollah as kind of like a cancer that infected us country for so many years. And the civilians in the government does nothing about it. Well, the French, which was what their influence was there, if they'd like to get in the game, they could possibly help the Lebanese government do that. Hezbollah has never been any weaker, but they don't have the military. They don't really choose to do anything. They just continue to send British signaling statements from Paris and hope the United States continues to get the job done. Yeah, I saw the quote from Norman Schwartzkopf recently that I love, that going into battle without the French is like going hunting without an accordion. Which I thought was... Yeah, you know, he... Yeah, you know, again, these countries, their perception of their strength and reality versus the actual reality of it, Realpolitik is just, you know, again, the Grand Canyon. It's as why is this UN-Iran debate right now? And so the UK is the same way. I mean, there's going to be real consequences over their actions within the NATO Alliance. You know, the NATO Alliance is not going away. I think it's going to be strong to have. But their, again, their perception of their reality and their actual strength remains to be seen. Nuclear weapons, though, that's the other thing to this. I mean, so they can decide to maybe back off and then control Spain. But the Germans don't. The Germans, we don't want them to have nuclear weapons. We don't, you know, there's other issues about that nuclear non-polliparation that we want to keep. And that's one of the things that ties NATO together. Yeah, I was going to feature a little bit later on in the show, an absolutely terrific piece of writing I came across by a woman who's an author and commentator and thinker on this sort of issue. And the piece is entitled Why the West Won't Call This a Holy War. And I'm thinking about Hezbollah in Lebanon, which if people aren't familiar, it's a heavily armed political party that's also an army. If you can picture the insanity of that. Israel, quote unquote, coming to an agreement and a peace agreement with Hezbollah at this point, that's fantasy land, isn't it? Especially from the Israeli perspective. Exactly. This is not, you know, the IRA that years ago decided to put its arms down and become part of the political process, joined the current government there and had a representative and the like. But this is not, this is, this is a fight for survival on their side. This is die to the death. This is there. This is how they operate. And it's, you know, similar to what happened in the Second World War in terms of how badly, you know, those countries at the time. Look, Japan, Japan had a tremendous tactical victory in December 7th. But look where that ended up leading to. It ended up being to the fundamental demise of their country back then. And I think that's the same historical analogy taking place right now. The Arab nation or the terrorist organization, Hezbollah, Hamas and Iran has this great tactical victory on October 7th, a few years back. But it's going to lead to their downfall for sure. I certainly hope it does. More on that to come. We're talking to military analysts and Mike Lyons. So, Mike, let's get down to brass tacks. Is there any opening the straights of Hormuz without the consent of whoever is running Iran? It doesn't look like it. It looks like the IRGC still controls it because the threat is still coming from a military perspective. It's those coastline batteries that could potentially fire on a container vessel or a ship that's going there. And ballistic missiles, there's still mines there. We could use the help of the British and other NATO countries that have some capability with some of their minesweeping. And then also some of the asymmetrical fast-boating that takes place. And so no insurance company is still going to get involved right now. So I think the next military mission is going to be looking for the Navy to really force that issue and protect carriers and protect the container ships going through there. You're going to see possibly a stepped up escort mission. I know the Navy has been hesitant to do that for my sources, but I think that's what the President is going to ask the Navy soon to do. Wow, interesting. Okay, let's change topics completely. Another really interesting piece of journalism I came across was a gal whose name I don't recall, but she was embedded with the NATO troops as they were doing drone training in Estonia, I think it was last week. And that's obviously a fascinating topic. And it was David Petraeus was over there, or at least commenting on it. And he said, look, you need to understand this is changing the face of warfare completely. How do you think we're doing on that learning curve, the United States and our allies? Well, we're hanging on to it. We're watching closely and we try to import some of that technology into what we're doing. I mean, you saw, for example, the fact that we're locating this pilot using some heart-marmer technology that can pick him out 40 miles away based on AI. So is that right? I hadn't heard that. Yeah, tell us more about that. Yeah, so I mean, again, what these kind of conflicts, all this technology comes off the shelf and this technology was able to find him, help locate him using AI by his heart rate, by his heart-marmer. Oh my God. Yeah, I mean, so again, this, and so now bring that same mentality. Ukraine gets up every day and figures out how it's going to survive. So they have to figure out how to close the kill chain, right? This time and distance between when they know there's a target and when they kill the target and what they've done is just phenomenal. Well, their industrial military complex in terms of building the drone technology, the software, the implement in it. And then once it faces off to the enemy and they see the reaction to it, changing the software so it becomes more survivable, Ukraine has been incredible in terms of that kill chain from a military's perspective and helping them survive. It's definitely the future of warfare. And you would know this a lot better than I would. I've told the procurement process has in the past been, well, it can make a person insane. Whereas now, you know, it's got to be, if I need a certain drill bit, I run to the store, I've got that drill bit in 20 minutes. Now, that's not practical, but what about that topic and how we need to change our procurement? Give you a shameless self-promotion. A couple of months ago, I wrote an article for Rear Clear Defense on the new systems, the new playbook in order to succeed in doing that. I'm going to start up Innovative Company because Pete Hex said has changed that. He's changed the entire process of how you can bring this lethality to the war fighters. And it's all about taking things commercially off the shelf and getting them quickly to the hands of the war fighters. Innovation centers like Softworks in Tampa, Florida, working with special operators and again shrinking this distance in time between when they need something and then it actually shows up on the battlefield. So I urge listeners to go take a look at that article if they're doing an innovative startup company and help them to get to do government work. Because that's what this is all about. They're trying to break that cycle of these long acquisitions. It's called the Valley of Death when you have a good idea and it dies in between when you get funding for it. Trump administration is trying to do that and I think that's a really good move. Yeah, interestingly enough, my brother is in that very line of work. Mike, send us a link to that article. Why don't we post it so everybody can flock to it and read it? Sure, we'll do that. Sure, we'll do that. Yeah, for sure. Okay, military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, as always, we appreciate the thoughts and the wisdom. Great to talk to you and have a good weekend. Thanks, Joe. You too. Have a great one. All right, thanks. Thanks. Yeah, where this goes, nobody knows. It is, maybe I'll lack imagination, but I'm using my feeble brain power such as it is to try to figure out how we get from this side of the world. This side is saying these things and demanding these things and this side has got its own set of demands and they are utterly incompatible. The Iranian regime is completely intransigent. They're either religious fanatics or dead enders because they will be, as Jack likes to put it, hung upside down in the town square as the end of their days. 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So I can't wait to hear this among other things. Oh, and I'll let you know. And it's it's it's shortened to the DBL there, Joe. Digital body language is DBL. The DBL. Right. Is it a trend? Are we going to talk about a trend? No, the word trend is not in this article. I promise. Trend is not trending. That's interesting. Makes you stop and think. All right. That and more. Oh, and you know what I ought to tell you is next hour, really looking forward to a conversation with Tim Sandefur about his brand new book about the declaration of independence can't wait for that. So hang around if you can back in moments. I'm strong and get it. How's your DBL? Check your DBL. Talk about that in a second. First, this though, this is so interesting. So Justice Sotomayor, one of the liberals who famously said in a speech that she hoped a wise Latina woman would produce better judicial outcomes than white males who haven't lived that life. She was given a speech at the University of Kansas the other day and she's talking about a court decision last year related to the reasonable suspicion that federal agents need to question someone because they think they might be an illegal immigrant. And she said, I had a colleague in that case who wrote, you know, these are only temporary stops. And she was referring to Brett Kavanaugh. Okay. So she's, I'll just tell you what she said next. This is from a man whose parents were professionals and probably doesn't really know any person who works by the hour. Even if somebody stopped by immigration gets released, quote, those hours they took away. Nobody's paying for that person. And that makes a difference between a meal for him and his kids that night and maybe just cold supper, which is, you know, empathetic and true. But what does that have to do with the law? Federal judge ordered immigration agents not to form reasonable suspicion based on any combination of the four factors that they go into. But the Supreme Court stayed that injunction and Kavanaugh explained under this court's precedence, not to mention common sense, those circumstances taken together can constitute at least reasonable suspicion of illegal presence. To be clear, apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion. It needs to be four of these factors. Sotomayor dissented and was joined by two other liberals. She blah, blah, blah. She said that's not good enough. We can't live in a country where the government can seize anyone who looks like Latino speak Spanish or appears to work at a low wage job, which is a little overheated as they point out. But as they point out in this article, that was overheated. And this week, the justice underscored how much her jurisprudence is based on identity and political results, not law and president. To spell that out for you, there would have to be a different standard for hourly workers than professionals, in her opinion, and that a judge who has a professional background can't decide the case for working class people. There can't be equal treatment under the law because of the differences in those two sets of people's lives. So she doesn't like the results. She doesn't like the result for certain individuals. So she's like, this can't be a law. And Kavanaugh is like, no, no, everybody's got to be equal in the eyes of the law. So if equality equals something Sotomayor doesn't like, she says, well, we're not going to have equality under the law then. That's a results oriented liberal justice as opposed to a law and president oriented justice. Anyway, all right, Katie, what's that headline you hit us with? The headline is struggling with dating apps. It might be your digital body language. All right, help us out. What's a DBL? Okay, the DBL, the article states, before texting and dating apps, the only body language that daters really had to worry about was their real life interactions. But now experts say body language involves much more with your digital body language and the way you come off through messaging. Love this. Logan Urie, who is the director of relationship science for the dating app Hinge, says the DBL involves the nonverbal subtext of online conversation. Think emojis, punctuation, word choice, length of messages and how quickly you do or do not respond. Oh, okay. All right. Punctuation and word choice. Absolutely. Totally lost interest in a guy because he didn't know they're there and there and didn't capitalize on words. Oh my, I hate no capitals. I do too. People don't understand the conventions of language written language exists. So it's readable. Yeah, it's not because we're picky. It's because people write us emails that are like 27 lines of type, no paragraph breaks. And it's nearly impossible to read. Yeah, it makes it difficult. So he continues on saying on a date you can read somebody's body language to figure out if they're into you. But when you're still in the texting phase, daters rely on the DBL to read between the lines to show someone how you're feeling. It's about how long you take to reply, whether you put any effort into your messages or not. If you ask questions and initiate or you just react to what they're saying, all of that creates a subtext. And that subtext is what people are using to figure out how interested and invested you are in them. This is not bull crap. It's not. So it just kind of goes, it stays along that line of, you know, it has a lot to do with the effort that you put into your messages, meaning, you know, you could send just okay or okay and say a couple more words to make it seem like you're taking more time for them. By the way, somewhat related, I have a couple of friends now who have, have embraced don't text call or text and say, hey, we need to catch up. You got a couple of minutes because they've realized that the text only staying in touch quote unquote is just not nourishing in the same way that a conversation is. Yeah. And I should be a leader on that and I'm not. I've kind of been a follower, but it's true. I responded to a missed call via text yesterday. I just didn't have it in me, man. I knew it was going to be a 30 minute phone call. Oh, wow. That's special exemption for that one. All right. Stay tuned. Tim Sanda for next hour. Armstrong and Getty.