Kylie Kelce on Kid Meltdowns, Dude Gift Advice, Japanese Maples & New Heights Secret Santa | EP 172

Should I rearrange the light so that one of these is actually hitting Kylie? Could be helpful. I actually prefer to be in the shadows. Yeah, Kylie with the dark sweater, just as like... It's bringing holiday vibes. When Kylie sits forward, I think actually finds her light. It's much better. Love actually not! That's what that movie should have been called. Love actually not! Here we go. Starting off on the right foot. Welcome back to new heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A one-dry show brought to you by Nike. Yay! I'm not wearing Nike, but I got these sweet... Yeah, let's say it. Diamond Terce. Those are dope. These are Nike. Pretty sweet. Were your host, I'm Travis Kuzn, my big brother, Jason Kuzn. He got a Cleveland Heights Ohio, as you guys know. Since the night of Bearcat Alums, subscribe on YouTube, one-dry plus wherever you get your podcasts and follow us on social media, add new Heights Show with one S-Front fun clips throughout the week, Jason. We have a very special, cheerful, holidays. Exciting. Why don't you tell everybody what we're doing? Yeah, sure. 900% is... We've got a very special holiday episode. Kylie Kelsey is here. We talk to her for Japanese maples. We get her gift-giving advice and weigh in on some child meltdowns. And, of course, get a sneak peek of her in Jason Curly. Ooh, there we go. Which we'll be exciting. Kind of, yeah, she looks great. But first, for the holidays, we did something special as a team, and it's the first time ever. It's surprising. We're all pretty festive individuals. We're very, very proud. But yeah, get ready for New Heights Secret Santa! Ha-ha-ha! Ha-ha-ha! Secret Santa is brought to you by Razing Canes. Thank you very much, Todd Graves and Razing Canes for sponsoring a segment that we give each other gifts, you guys are the best. And with that, Endred Brandon, just shake, please, come on in! All right. Let's go! Hello! Happy holiday, Hans. Hey, let's get lit! Let's get lit! That's good lit. Jake, just curious, is there a secret Santa? Is that prevalent in the Jewish community? Is this something that is not... Ha-ha-ha! I think so. Yeah, like a secret Maca-bee type of thing. Is there a Hebrew version of Secret Santa? The Hidden Hebrew. It's... Yeah, the Hidden Hebrew. That works. If there's not, we just started it. I think we might just started it. We might just started the Hidden Hebrew. Ha-ha-ha! Ha-ha-ha! All right. So we each gave each other gifts. There was a randomized controlled... Uh... Determination. ...of who was killed. We were all told who had each other. Yes. Yes. ...the ending limit of $50. Yes. That was the limit. That was $25. Ha-ha-ha! Somebody's been buried. Oh, I'm very sorry. Oh, I'm very sorry. We were given an order in which to open... I was told to go first. I want to make it clear I did not pick myself to go first. It sounds like you picked yourself to go first. I did not know it was... I did not know it was... I did not know it was... I did not know it was... I did not know it was... This is what I have. This is what showed up. Let's do a little... For the audio listeners, a little... All right. Yeah. Good job. Amazon's loving this... ...back again. We should have delivered gifts... Shout out, raising Amazon and Wally. We should have done this in a Raisin King. Exactly. Sorry Todd. We didn't think... Thank you for sponsoring. Sorry Todd. Okay, I have a cube. I have a cube. I wouldn't shake it too hard. I wouldn't shake it too hard. Yeah, yeah. Hold, yeah. Shhh. Oh, I got a little cup. I got a little cup. So, for the audio listeners, it says... It's a little... A coffee cup. It says other interns and it's a... I believe a horse farting. And then it says me and it's a little unicorn... Oh. Oh. Oh. That's a beautiful gift. This is a very nice gift. Very specific intern cup. This? Goddamn. Who? I don't know who did this. Oh man. This is a... This is a Jason? Is it a Jason? It is a Jason. Yeah. That is a Jason. Yeah. We did a great job of finagling intern. This is a great... This is a great... This is adding to my mug shelf. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Jason. The lovely gift. You are a unicorn brand and... Good start. You are a unicorn. Thank you. Good start, Secret Santa. Jason, you are next. I am up next. All right. This is the box. Nice. My bro. My bro. It's got some. What is it? Put a lot of bubble wrap wrap in there. Okay. I feel like it is... It's going to be like a book. Oh, I couldn't see it being Legos. Legos are always a banger. Nice. This is going to come in handy. What do we got? So, we have golf balls. Ooh. Ironically or in a blue package. For those of you who are aware of the Blue Man Group bet that we have in Ta-Hoo. This is not on distance. This is the upcoming year. It also says my custom golf balls. So, I have a feeling that these balls are going to have something on them. Custom balls. Hey, who doesn't love some custom balls? Yep. What's on there? It's a Blue Man Travis Kelsey. It's really hard to see. Oh my god. You got to back it out a little bit. Just a little bit. I can't wait to fucking crush these things. Actually, it's a Blue Man Travis and a Blue Man Jason. Oh, wow. You got double. You know what? That's pretty goddamn good. No, they're good. That's really funny. These are all really horrific, too. Oh, man. Who made these? I feel like it had to be Jake because I was like, because they're having some type of like social media, Blue Man group expertise. It was me. It was me. Thank you. Shout out to our graphics department. They were very helpful. The department. The department. Yes, the department. The two people that I went to for Photoshop help. So, I'll say two things about your gift. One, I figured you could use a reminder while you were practicing for Tahoe. The other thing. And I do need Brandon's help here. I do. So, this is only part of your gift. Like we mentioned, we had a limit. And so, you know, I was kind of struggling to think of like two guys who could have anything they want in the world. What is one thing that I could get them as a gift? And then I remembered I lost something of yours. So, on the way is a branded, if you would pull up the picture. It's a replica Super Bowl ring. It is a replica. It is. I have felt terrible for the last four years. That I lost your ring in Skyline Chili. It may or may not be currently stuck in customs. I can't believe you really lost your fucking Super Bowl ring. We went back and reviewed the footage and it is 100% my fault. He said, Jake, go get it. And I just didn't hear it. I felt terrible. So, a replacement is also on the way. Mary Crust. Thank you very much, Jake. I can't wait to get this. And actually see what this looks like. This is going to be great too. That cannot have fallen within the $50. That's the thing. This is why it was not, it's certainly not a realistic ring. I'll put it that way. We had $15 to spend. I went right up to that limit. I swear I did not go over it. Wondering what the craftsmanship on this ring is going to be like when we have this. So the rings, the rings plus these golf balls are both under $50. Correct. Yeah, I think it was 30 and the golf ball for more expensive. Mary Crust looks like. I'm pretty sure it says folds on the side of it. So, you'll have that. You'll have that as well. That's right. All right. My turn. I have a box. Shake it. We got something wrapped. Ooh. Ooh. That was a good collective. Ooh. Oh. We got a box. This thing could not be more wrapped. You're working for it. Please do not cut yourself. It came really close. All right. We got some right. I'm like a no fucking way. It's a jet super bowl ring. I already. That is fucking awesome. That's really funny. No. I already. Oh my God. That's fucking great. Oh, this is sick. You ever seen one of those before? No, I have not. Look at that. Look at that. This is fucking awesome. Well done. I'm going to do it. This came from Travis. The old Joe Naman Super Bowl ring, man. This is about it, man. Thank you. This is. And unfortunately, the Joe Naman goes for $50 and the Nick Foles goes for, I believe. So these are significantly more rare that Eagles have added. There you go. There you go. Super Bowl rings. So we'll take it. I thought it would actually come with the fur coat. I think it would be a good idea to have it. I think it would be a good idea to have it. I thought it would actually come with the fur coat. I thought it came with the fur coat that. That's next year. That's next year. That's next year. Yeah, there you go. Just slowly turn Jake into Joe Naman. He gets the mud and chops them. All right. Travis, you were the last man. Thank you, Travis. That was awesome. Oh, yeah, baby. Welcome to. Get in here. All right. Here we go. I can't see the city book of some sort of zipped this thing open and see what we got here. Oh, I know it. I'll fuck ton of player cards. Let's go. Here we go. And two of my favorites sitting right there in the front, baby. Let's go. Oh, James. Brandon, you got a fucking card. I know that. That came from a 92%er in Kansas City. She gave us a bunch of like our own custom cards. So yeah, you got you got a border's rookie card in there, brother. Borders. There's also a wait, go to the Jason card. There's a Jason card. I got you a Jason draft diamond card. Now that is the closest thing you can find to a Jason Kelsey rookie card. This guy right here. That right there. That is Jason as a rookie. But they made this in the 23. I believe it was minted. So. That's Jason. Jason. Oh, that's a rookie. But they didn't make you an official rookie card. They made you like a later. Oh, shit. You turned out really good. I actually have a, I do have an official rookie card, but it's not from when I was a rookie. Oh, okay. Every, every player is like first card is technically the rookie card, but I think it's from like 2018. Yeah, seven. When I asked the guy at the card, so I was like, you have Jason Kelsey. Rookie. He just looked at me like, what the fuck are you talking about? So that is, that's a picture of you as a rookie, but on a card made in like 2024. I went to my local card store. They just have these giant bins of football cards. So I went through a couple years and I made you a pack of like a bunch of chiefs and some friends at the show. Oh, nice. So they are, they also like only cost. Oh, nice. So like, I spent like two hours digging through cards, just fine and dudes. It is really fun to do. Are you kidding me? That sounds like a blast. That would be pretty dope to have cards from everybody who's been on the show unstoppable. Chris Stone Cold Jones. I found some good ones. I found some, there's a couple like really weird rare ones in there that I was really excited to pull. She'd even partner with like the artist that like make player cards to like make one. Get calls. They come on the show. Yeah. Show them, show them, show them, show them, show them, show them, show them. Real Malve. Just, just read on some of your face. I thought you got a good old cheetah right there. That thing's sweet. Get cheetah. I remember that play. You guys tend to see one of the coldest games ever. Oh, nice man. It's J-Mac, baby. Jeremy Maclub. Got a J-Mac. Oh, got it, man. Yeah. He go and chief. M-I-Z. Old Lenny Dalsett, R-I-P to the legend, man. Oh, that's awesome. That was awesome. Pump to pull that one. Peyton Hill is. Peyton Hill is playing for the chiefs. Yeah, he did. I remember that. I think he was right after the Cleveland. I think he was right before you got there, but he was pretty sweet cards. I figured it out. 2011, yeah. Yeah. Madden Cover. Madden. Goddamn. Jamal Charles. NFL. My guy. Nice. Don Terry Paul. Rookie Car. That's a rookie dot Terry Paul. Those are rare. Those are rare. They don't just, they don't make them any of those. It's one of the only defensive players to run, catch, and throw a touchdown pass in the NFL. And I think he's like the heaviest to ever throw a touchdown pass. That's a great stat. Shady. Yeah. There we go. Shady. I had to especially ask the guys at the store like where are the Jason Kelsey cards? And they're like, oh, we keep those in the back. And I'm not getting you. You weren't Jason. No, you weren't in the bin. I dug through your rookie year. I dug through Super Bowl. Absurd Bowl. You're thinking like a lot of Eagles in there. Oh, we got a bunch of. There's no Jason. You got to ask, you're behind the counter, brother. That's an honor. It's a prize possession. That's a prize possession. Friends of the show and just friends of friends of friends of Joe Thomas. Well, Joe Thomas. We got some nice Alejandro Villanova legend. Legend. That's a sweet card to all hands team. Oh, that's a sweet card. All hands team. Catch up a pass. Look at him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Thick six, baby. Old Greg Olsen. We got to get him on. Greg. Yeah. Kiddie. Let's go, baby. And then Jules will look like in the Super Bowl. It's a super heavy. Yeah. How about that? That's a sweet red gloves, baby. Swack him out. Digging through bins of football cards is very fun. And then Zach Hertz, baby. Ertsy and the Gain Green, man. Got all the time. Let's go. And then old school colors, Matt Stafford. Mattie. Wow. Classic. Classic, dude. This is sweet, man. But yeah, that's a card by your friend. Those are your official sleeve at book. That's not official actually. It's a bootleg chief's card. I had to keep it under 50. So the official one was a little pricey. The bootleg one under 50. Thank you, dude. Fuck yeah. Happy holidays. Happy holidays, guys. That was New Heights Secret Santa brought to you by Raising Kings. Thanks, guys. Happy holidays. Hey, let's wrap this up. We're waiting for Kylie. We've been making a wait wait too long. Yeah. All right. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, Nike. Big day tomorrow, Trev. You ready? Oh, yeah. I'm always ready, baby. It's game day. I'm game day ready, baby. Let's go. Yeah, game day. Well, there's Christmas. Well, yeah, but it's football on Christmas, which yeah. And our friends at Nike basketball have something special coming tomorrow as well. A Christmas surprise, if you will. And it might feature a friend of the show. What? We have so many friends of the show. I wonder which one it could be. Nike just getting started and the answer will be revealed on socials tomorrow. Oh, what the? You're not going to tell me to a tease. Let's say you do a tease. All right. Well, check out Nike basketball at Nike basketball on Instagram tomorrow at 7 a.m. Pacific time and get ready to join in on their new challenge from anywhere. Thank you, Joe. Partner, raising canes. Ooh, raising canes, huh? Yeah, baby. 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Hey, oh, so here's your Christmas day game plan open presence in the morning. Get that holiday feast going and then settle in with a little family for some NFL action streaming live on Netflix. Don't miss Cowboys Commanders or one PM Eastern lions Vikings at 4 30 Eastern on Netflix. Our guest today for a very special Christmas episode. I mean, she's already sitting right next to me. So you're probably already seeing her. She's the only four time guest in the history of new heights, very prestigious air. Previous record holder for the most viewed episode of all time recently broken by just a little bit. She's the host of a. I heard he was just emerging. What are the Apple pods best new shows of 2025? You. He's also the number one fan of Japanese maples. Both real and. Some of us. It was kind of Kelsey's back to the show everyone. Yeah. That's okay. How you doing? Doing you actually really do like Japanese maples. I think that's why I thought Japanese maple because I'm pretty sure we have two in our backyard. What do you mean? You're you know what a Japanese maple is. You know we're right. They're biggest fan. We have two in our backyard. I'll tell you what the ones in your backyard are beautiful. Aren't they? Especially follow the color. Great tree climbing. Great tree climbing trees. Yep. Yeah. For this for this bit, I don't think we can talk about how you climb the Japanese people in the backyard. All right. All right. Guy, how you been? Because graphs on everything we're not going to lie. Thank you. You're a question it. Thanks. You haven't fought you haven't fun being a podcaster now. Like you're in it. You're in it. I'm very lucky to get to speak to the people that I get to speak to. It's good. It's yeah. It's very cool. And I'm very excited when I get to learn from them and ask questions that I've had for a long time. But other than that, I do feel bad that people are plagued with more of me. I think it's not that. I don't know one person has upset about that. What's your favorite guest you've had so far? Can't say me. Can't say me. Can't say me. Oh, that's exactly where I was going to go. What's the most surprising favorite? I can't say you. No. Can't say me. Because I was going to say that. I mean, I got to talk to Michelle Obama. That was that. That's I think I'm still sweating slightly from that. Oh, all right. Nice. The only ones that do this, Jason, nice. Perfect. All right. Cool. Cold sweats. I just got a chance to talk to Asia Wilson. She was absolutely hilarious. Nice. And I was kind of trying to recruit her when the W comes to Philly in 2030. So where she live. She's no, she's in Vegas right now. Oh. So the ACEs. Yeah. There's Philly's fun. And I tried to tell her Philly loves their teams and Philly's gonna rally in a way that I think she would really enjoy. So there's that. I also got to talk to Bindi Erwin. I don't want to minimize that. That was like a childhood dream come true. Really? Why is that? It wasn't a childhood dream come true. Bindi Erwin wasn't even alive in your childhood. I watched Bindi with her dad on the crocodile owner when I used to watch animal planning after school. How old is Bindi Erwin? Not too terribly, like not a whole lot younger than me. Really? I say that with the assumption that I'm still 24. I was going to say she's 27. I believe. What did you just Google? Oh, yes. We have been running, running, running around down. Of course. That's only six years younger than me. Were you a big animal planet kid? College big big into the animals. Huge. Big into the animals. Well, now we got to go. I was about to say we got this water lover. I did just get to know. I did. Do you know what I just got to visit the otters? At the Philadelphia Zoo because they were like Uncle Travel love this. And I was like, great. Great. I mean, they were so loud, Drav. You still deafening. Do they like barking or how are they laughing? They were squeaking. I can see like a lot of scream. Like a. It was like screaming bloody murder. It was crazy. It was a scream. That's that's an. It was a murder. It was loud. Don't love that. I was equipped. I was like, I could be in here all day between my kids, my husband. I think I know your favorite animal. You think I can write down your favorite animal? And we could do it. She talks about animals a lot. Just say it on three. I'm going to say it on three. One, two, three. Drafts. Yeah. Oh, they are majestic. They are majestic. I always say they're my people. Mm-hmm. Because we're both tall. They're tall. Yeah. I was like, what the hell did I have in common with a giraffe? Weird. I do love a orangutan. I love a gibbon. Gibbons, yeah. That the zoo. Gibbons are so funny. Gibbons are your favorite incarcerated animals. Come again. So what's a gibbon? A gibbon is they sort of have their face framed with a different color and then they have really long arms, really long legs and they swing. There's a lot of action. There's a stuffy at the zoo. Gibbons are monkeys. Yes, that's how their hands Velcroed and you can wear them as like a little necklace. Wow. And they swing around like goobers. Yeah, they would do really well. We should do a wild animal ninja warrior. Gibbons would perform extremely well. They would rip strength, rip strength, outstanding. Yeah, for sure. I love them. So those are your land animals. What about sea animals? I love a shark. What is it about sharks? I hate them. I'm so terrified. I just don't really have problem. I just don't have beef with sharks the way you do. There's just something that terrifies me. I will say a sea turtle is majestic. Sea turtle. It is. A sea turtle is majestic. Until we get to the point. And the fact that you're not allowed to touch them and I'm a rule follower. Like an African tortoise? No, like a real a whole. Have you seen a leatherback sea turtle? Those fuckers are huge. I don't know if I don't know what I've seen. I just know I've seen an enormous turtle before. A bigger sea turtle. But the shell goes like up. It goes like up and around. Oh, and it's a leatherback. So that's it. Those things are crazy. They're massive. Yeah, they live to be like a hundred years old too, right? Like 70 to 100. You're the biggest turtle. You look like a lost person. Unless you give them some type of like radiological sludge and they live in the sewer. I just got to meet. I got to meet newborn Galapagos tortoises. Oh, no, really? Yeah. So what's what's exciting about that? Their mom, 97 years old. Holy shit. She still laying eggs. She just had them. They're her first clutch of eggs. Her name is mommy. If you live to 200. Yeah. Are newborns older? Does that stretch? I'm sorry, boy. Because it's not an old turtle. It's like a hundred and it lives the 200. It's middle aged. So does every other like is an adolescent turtle instead of being like a 13 year old adolescent turtles or 50s. It was a newborn turtle instead of like a zero to one year old turtle. Now we got like a zero to five year old turtles and newborn turtles. He's trying to he's trying to turn on a math right now. He's trying to turtle math. It's not going well. I was about to say, yeah, I think he was. Yeah. I'm overstretched for it. Yeah. Okay. I think they're still however long they've been on the earth. I think it's just cool because so mommy the turtle that just the tortoise that just have the clutch. So I'm essentially just she's been rethought off. Yes. And she was four years old. She's been in Philly for 93 years, which is crazy. She's been in Philly for 93. 93 years, which means like when I was growing up, I saw her at the zoo. Yeah. Well, it means it means when Lisa was growing up. Isn't that cool? It crosses generations. Is she been incarcerated the whole time? Yeah. What a. I'm just going to let him have it. Is it what are we doing? How have you been dealing with being dethroned by Travis Butterhouse? Great. Great. Yes. I'm always cheering on Taylor and everything that she does. So the fact that I finally got dethroned, it was welcome. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Shout out to Tay. There we go. Are you tired of being tagged and pictures of Japanese maples? Nah. Fuck it. Literally. No, I'm getting. Oh. What was on it? How quick this stupid shit we do on the show get back to you. Very fast. Every night on my doom scroll, I get it. The most recent was when, which I do want to set the record straight, you don't have to keep this in the show. When you said that you don't fight, you were joking. Right? Like you were being sarcastic. The giggle afterwards suggested that you were being sarcastic. What? Because I'm going to try to ask me about it on my run down and I was just like, I'm pretty sure Travis joking. Fight. Wow. Fight. Who do I fight? Arguing? Defensive players. Yeah. Oh, defensive guys. Yeah. Fight. I'm a fighter in that sense of it. Great. Perfect. Yep. Continue. I mean, I can attest to it. I've never seen it. It's not true. That's fair. Um. Doesn't happen often. No. It's probably about standard. Well, let's start a fight. How do you feel about Jason blaming the birds, losses this year on you and you not turning your back to watch the game? I'll take it. Honestly, he. That's so bad. I'll take it though. All right. I do feel responsible. There's only so much control you have and it's what you can do. Yeah. You got to control what you can control to be fair a couple of weeks ago. Time to control. Yeah. I turned it around trying to get some chiefs magic like we're trying to we're trying to spread the goodwill, you know. What do you think it is about turning around that shifts the tides? It's um. It's a it's a selfless act. It's a selfless act because it's like it's a sacrifice. It is a sacrifice of real fandom. Yes, because I'm like, I want to watch this so badly. So how can we up the sacrifice? Sounds like you guys got to black out the games. That's another big time sacrifice. I was going like animal sacrifice. Oh, I went in my head. Ooh, what kind of animal would you? Why do you always take it one step too far? I'd be one of the sacrifice of cat. No. That was uncalled for it, but hilarious. And uh, yeah, what would be an example? You got to go Joe Boo. You got to sacrifice some chickens. We'll start off with just a stink bug. Slater right in half. Boom. No, we're not sacrificing anything. Yes, sacrifice a little. Yes, sacrifice. What's a what's a suitable sacrifice to take the sacrifice up? Nice to get out of this. Jason, uh, you guys, oh nice. You and Kylie both just went curling. What did we did? Yeah, we got the good. Where you got the good? Shout the code up. You went back the old stomping grounds. I bought it. Shout out the Gramps. Yeah, he was so excited to tell people what people everywhere they were so nice. You know, this isn't my first time. Yeah. Nice to frequent this neighborhood quite big. I'll tell you what, you get off that plane. You know what you don't remember? The pungents. Pungent aroma of what? I don't really know. Work by product, I believe was the answer. Apparently there's a byproduct. I've heard mixture of the glizzy farm out there. I think probably more than just glizzies. Yeah, they got they got some type of animal manufacturing facility and then there was another one that somebody said it might be, but apparently when the winds are just right, it brings that right that into the city. When the winds are just right. I felt bad. I got into our very nice drivers car and I thought it was him. I thought he just had like bad B.O. I was like something. Something happened. It's like something is like riding. I don't know what there's like a sulfuric sense. That's what it was. That's what it that. Yes. And then I got out of the car and it was just everywhere. We got to the hotel room for him to be like, that smell is still here. Yes. And I was like, yeah, it's been with us since we landed. Is it me? No, he straight up was like for a second. I thought it was our driver. Anyway, so Sioux Falls was great. Sioux Falls was great. It was awesome. Yeah, tell me more about curling. I want to know. I want to know was it easy? Was it? No, it's not easy. It's not easy. Do you have special shoes or did you guys just go? We showed no, we there's one thing that I was actually very upset about with. I didn't have the right. You got to know the terrain. I have the equipment. Got to know the terrain. I have the I but shamefully I asked they all was like, so do you we have like shoes waiting for some assuming. And she's like, no, we just go in the tent. She's like, how are we going to they're wearing like special like cleats? You don't. Yeah, one shoes got. Yeah. So yeah, anyways, no, we did not have the proper footwear. Well, that definitely makes it harder. They have these like sliders though. So you can do the start. And then the ice because it's pebbled isn't really actually that slick. And some people don't wear the slider when they're doing the broom action sweeping. So it really wasn't as big of a hindrance as I thought it was going to be. It was kind of what I'm trying to say. Oh, all right. I do think it's easier with the shoes, but just it wasn't that imperative that we had the right poor. So who won? So we didn't really do a full game. No, all right. Who is better? I do think there is a chance that. Oh, no. I do want to do a little bit of a chance. Oh, let's go. Yeah. That's fucking technique right there. It was good. There is a chance that I this could be the thing. Beautiful throw. This could be the thing that gives me the upper hand. Get it going. This is going. Get it going. It involves flexibility that someone. You got to get in front of it. I wasn't in front of it. Oh, no. I think you were to the side of it. Well, you go to where it's going. So it was curling. So you got to sweep till like where it's going. Yeah, we're a bunch of you. I thought you were like steering it. You actually can't do that. I'm not good enough to do that. Oh, right. That's a relatively new development in the world of curling apparently. So before you would just try and sweep in front of it. Yeah. But now they found out that like if you put a certain spin on it and you almost like sweep to like move it in that area, you can influence it more. And that's kind of changed the sport in some ways. Tyler told me that what's on? What was Tyler's last name? Do you remember? It was Sioux Falls. No, we were with the Olympic teams. Oh, nice. It's the Olympic teams. Yes. Yes. So that's what we're with. What? You have watched the brother sister combo that we were with. Yes. Nice. It's usually brother sister or husband wife. If I'm not mistaken, there is one pair, one mixed double that is husband and wife. Very nice. Yep. So yeah, we were Matt Hamilton was teaching us to sweep who is on team USA. I still remember watching him and back up in in 2018. Yeah. And then Tyler is like the main commentator for USA Curly. And he does all the Olympic car. He's the color guy. He knows what he's talking about. Nice. Very good. That was actually that was one of the fun things. We got to watch a qualifier right in front of us. Nice. I just stand next to him and talk to him the whole match. And we were talking a lot of curling strategy, hammer action, putting up, I forget the terms. It's not a block, but it's essentially a block. Fuck. I do know offensive strategy. If you want to, if you got the lead, you want to keep the middle open. That's a concern. That's like a pretty like conservative strategy. You want to increase the difficulty and like make people go for shots and be aggressive. Yeah. You try and keep the middle closed. And generally, if somebody has a hammer, you want to close the middle. So if you're throwing first, that's why you'll see him throw up a block every once in a while to start off, which is in between the target area, whatever that was called again. And then like the line, you want to be like six feet right in front of that. So I'll look here. And you can't knock out a block. You can't knock out one of those until the fifth shot has been thrown. Oh, see, I didn't know that. I was just like, why don't you just continue knocking them out of there? Just bowl your way through there. No, that makes sense. That's why there you go. So yeah, had a blast. Kai, we did have a little competition. Kai, one. Thank you. Thank you. Who was better? Wait, we don't want to release this information because it is coming out on your channel. I want to have a legitimate match, though. They just kind of taught us the technique. We only did like a couple of things. Thank you, Jason. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure if I would have gotten you, I want to have a legit match. If I would have got what I thought I was going for, I came away a little bit disappointed. She got closer to the bullseye. I don't think so. I think his throw was better. I think they gave me a, I. I think that I was given a consolation, almost like a participation trophy situation, but I have full faith that because I am more flexible than him, buy leaps and bounds. I will say, my knee was hurt, doing a full game. I don't know how I'm able to walk. And we did how many we did like six throws? Yeah, maybe you knew you were going curling and didn't bring a dichlofenac. I was in the morning. I didn't get them glutes firing. Look at this guy. Oh my God. What a fucking guy. All right, we're going to start. All right, hold on real quick. I get over here more of that's exactly what happened. Oh, we're starting my bad. I'm not ready. Yeah, damn it. That's hilarious. No, I do want. I'm trying to, we've talked about current a bunch. Everyone was talking about the, the facility that Jared Allen has down in Nashville, where it's like a recreational. It's like almost like a bowling alley for like curling and he's big into the curling community in sport now. I think a blast to do. Now while we were there that there's a curling club, 20 minutes from our house. Why knew about it? Why didn't you tell me? I was about to say sounds like you're with a shorter information. All right, that's awesome. But no, I'm in. And I, I may or may not. I do. I really think you give me like a couple more throws. Trust me. I'm actually getting private lessons for. We can be a competitive of this and travel. You give us a couple more throws. I mean, we're not like an Olympics, but I think I can, I can hold my own in the Philadelphia League. I feel very confident about this. You just, you just told everybody you don't know if you're being so confident. You don't know if you'd be able to do a full game. Yeah, but I mean, I think the more you do it, the next time I figured out. There you go. Well, that's fun. I've always wanted to do curling. Curling was always at the Cleveland skating club. Cleveland's, yep. Yep. And they have police or they did it on regular ice. No, they had like curling ice. That's cool. Yep. Wait, what? There's different ice. Well, that's what we were talking about. It's pebbled and then there's like, so regular ice is flat. Right? It's just ice, like a hockey ice. Curling is like purposely like they spray it with a hose to give it almost like a bubble wrap. And that helps control and the, the rocks actually slide further with the pebbling. It like doesn't have as much friction to it. And then the sweeping makes a bigger difference with the pebbles because then you're like slowly can do that gesture so well. The pebbles. No, the sweeping. The sweeping down here. Sweeping. Sweeping. Children. Well, that's fun. You went, you went back to beautiful Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Did you, did you see Mount Rushmore while you were there? No, I forgot how far it is. It's a, that's four hour hike. West. And old sat. We did look it up before we left. Yeah. Nice. No, we did not go to Mount Rushmore. We just did the curling. You know, the old tale is there's a treasure somewhere around Mount Rushmore. Is that a national treasure reference? I was going to say is that? I was going to say, I was going to say, definitely wasn't the first one. I think the first one was Philadelphia Declaration of Independence, wasn't it? The pretty bell. The first one was independence. There was definitely Philadelphia references. But I don't, I think we're, when he actually got into like that little area, I don't think that was Philadelphia. Was it? Crucially stole the Declaration of Independence, which is in Philadelphia. No, it's not. I'm, I'm with Jason on this one. I do not. I do believe it is his sense. I'm in DC and then taken to Washington DC. I'm not. I'm pretty sure I know the independence hall where they signed it, isn't it? Yeah, I'm aware of that. But I think like where it's held is in DC. Where we go? Constitution have actually. Sorry, sorry. Just kidding. We got the Liberty Bell though. They let us keep that. The new capital. They let us keep the broken bell. Guys, history was never my strong suit. I don't claim history. Who knows if it's the truth or not, you know? I heard Nicholas Cage show has the OG Declaration of Independence. That would be pretty badass. He's still spray. He's still lemon juice all over. I'm sure. God damn it. Move you so well. It was a good. Why does the Declaration of Independence smell like Lysol? It's God. What's the woman that forget the Lysol commercial? Oh, what? I am. I am. What is it, man? I'm not a seed like one of these old fucking Lysol commercial there. I don't know. It's just I don't I'm getting the image of the Lysol commercial lady in the Declaration of Independence. It sounds funny. I don't know why. I gotta look at next garage beer commercial. Yeah, this might be. Oh, here we go. That was Lysol. We're going to put garage beer live with the Declaration of Independence. Yeah, that's brilliant. Brilliant. What does it decode? It shows us where the national beer treasure is. Golden rye. What do you make it with? We golden wheat. Who? A field of gold. Golden wheat. Talk about hops. Hops. I don't fucking drink beer. Why the fuck would I know what it's made out of? It's fair. Why am I getting these light? I can't find this Lysol commercial. You've been thinking of the pine salt lady this whole time. Pine salt. Thank you so much. I've been sitting here just like my tongue for you to find it, but it's a pine salt. And it's not even. It's not even lemon. Is it? I'm sure they have a lemon. Lysol is what every NFL locker room has. Next to the next to the can. Pine salt. I'm sure they have a lot of people that are going to be in the next game. Oh, here he goes. I think we can just. I think we can let this one go till later. Nope. All right. Can you. Do you want to plug the curling episode that comes out in February? Where I was told by Emma. If you want to plug that. Yeah, plug whatever I'm and tells me to do. So what is the curly episode? The FAMO episode of us with the. We were curling at the US Olympic trials. It comes out in February. Nice. It's just in time for the Winter Olympics. Oh, time. How timely. It's like Queen Emma lined that up on purpose. I think she do. So Queen Emma. Well, I can't wait to see you guys on the ice. The last time I saw Kylie on the ice, it wasn't too smooth. In Kansas City on skates. I think it was a little bit weird. Weird. Surround this time. We weren't going to break that. It wasn't. It wasn't. You looked way some way smoother on the ice right there. Let me be clear. It's pebble. I don't know what it is. But whenever we try winter sports. We're with you. You were with us when we were skiing in Aspen. We were together ice skating in Kansas City. I thought we would make a steps on a fucking banana. Straight out fucking hard to get the shoulders over toes. You should rate out of a cartoon. My like, whoa, right out from under me. It'll get you. Thank God. I was wearing like a full puffer coat. It's a very underrated thing that people know, ice is harder than concrete. It hurts. For those of you that don't know. Hurt your ego. Hurt your ass. Hurt your ass. I mean, so we've got a lot already. Do we want to do, do we want to do kid fights? What is the kid fights thing? We had people send in the dumbest fights have ever had with their child. I like that. I'm very in a, I thought you were talking about children fighting children. I was going to say our children didn't, they don't really fist fight, but I will tell you when, fight all the time. No, they like fight, but they don't get into like a full fist fight. And the best part was is that your mom came in. Yeah. And she taught them how to what is that called, the leg thing. I have no idea what you're talking about. She had them laid, she had them lay down opposite each other. And oh, the leg wrestling, yeah. Ooh. Yeah. I left it in and that was like, that's a old school move. I don't even know. I'm even taught us that. Yeah, I vaguely remember that. My dad used to actually sit us down in the living. I mean, just have us wrestle. Yeah. What went great for me. He grew on like rules. Like you would have one person, I'll get you're down this time. You're on all fours. You guys gotta be here. Grab a zelba. All right. Go. I got it. I got it. It was the worst. I've been teaching Ellie the headbutt. I don't think the poor child needs any more head trauma. We just headbutt each other. Nice. Poor Ellie. Thank you, Drew. Partner, draft games, big six. 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All right, let's do, let's do some kid fights. The other week we talked about the great Disney World Welfare Fight 2025 between me and why iconic. So we asked the night to be said, is please send in some of the dumbest fights you ever have with your kids. How many? As a mom, can you tell us how you would handle these situations? Okay. Perfect. Here we go. Nice. From and I can't read this guys, but I have you read it. Jay Richardson, new heights my six year old nephew had a meltdown because he insisted he could and should be able to drive the car. Well, funny story Travis did drive a car in six years old right through the back of our garage. Wow. The story that I heard was that Travis is not fully to blame. Well, yeah, who told you that? I know. I'm convincing. Convincing right? That's like I'm gonna hold up in a corner lock. Convincing. Oh, I wasn't gonna shoot him in the head, but my friend told me it was a good idea. He's you were there. I was there. I was at the crime scene. She was at the crime scene. I was in love in the crime scene. You were witnessing every bit of me walking it, walking up to that car and putting the keys in there and then somehow getting that thing into neutral at the age of three or four, maybe. We were still at the old house, so it had to be. Yeah, I was, I think I was five when we moved to the heights. It was four or five, I bet. Yeah, so impressive. As someone with a four year old, very impressive. And to say I drove the car through the garage is a bit aggressive. Didn't you just, did you talk to those? I turned the key, I don't even know if the engine started. It just jumped. I think you turned the key, everything turns on and then put it in neutral. Okay. And then it just rolled and the weight of the car broke the door on the garage. Sure. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't smart enough. I'm not thinking. Yeah, it's like put that thing in drive and be like, let's do this. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Let's get back to Jay Richardson's question. Six year old nephew had a meltdown because, what do we, are we saying how we would handle a six year old guy? Yeah, what would you tell your kids if they insisted they could and should be able to drive the car? Do you just let them, you know, I'm giving the keys. Yeah. Yeah. See, I'll, good job at this. And then when they almost kill themselves, no. Okay. I would, if it really got to a point where you are at a stalemate, I would without the keys in the car invite the child to sit in the front seat and have that, like even if you got to put the seat all the way down and all the way back first. Nice. I would allow them to be like, yeah, like, hey, you can't see the road from here and you can't reach the pedals. How are you going to drive? This is a grown up job. Nice. I don't know. If it was really a stalemate, but our girls are pretty respectful about the idea of like a grown up, that's a grown up thing to do. They're not, our kids aren't the big, aren't very fearless. They're very fearful right now. We're still in that stage. Like they start screaming if they haven't buckled their seat belts yet, which is a dude new to me. They really do. They really do. Loser wants their seat belt on in the back. Should be lying to me. Should be telling me it's buckled and then you don't have a buckle. That's what a kid does. No, they're where your seat belts kids. I would say being the one that doesn't have any kids. Why don't you give them just like one of those little like go-karts? Give them the cheese. Says Uncle Travis. The only problem. You won't give us. She's still terrified to even get by in the wheel. She's fearful. She's fearful. I think why you drove it on the other driveway? Yeah, why you don't try to put it at the max speed. She was not having it. No, don't put it. You can't put it in the back. You gotta put it in the middle. I was gonna say what's two? How fast that thing goes? It was definitely like when you hit the pedal. It was like, ooh. Like a little little seat a little bit. A little bit. She ain't like that. She'll get used to it. I've seen Jason throw her down the car or slide. Were you put her in the little chair and you put her roller coaster? Yeah, that's going way faster than anything. For sure. Absolutely. But try and rationalize that to them. They don't have a lot of rational. Spell rationalize to them. Let a little tell about it. Six-old nephew had a meltdown because he insisted he could should be your driver's car. Yeah. Yeah. We'll start playing music loud and just get to your next destination, I guess. All right, to the next one, Marion Beaty, my four-year-old, had a meltdown because the time on his watch kept changing. Lasted one hour. Yeah. Yeah, we're all getting older. It's a harsh reality. I'm going to fucking what four-year-old has a fucking watch. What are we talking about? I'm so confused about this. Travis literally gave Wyatt a watch. Yeah, but she doesn't wear it or know what time she can't tell time. She was like, you're month straight to be fair. She wore it even when it wasn't charged, which was hilarious. She was a bad woman in the watch and I'm like, sure do. Yeah, you do. It's a accessory, both for styling and telling time. If she would have no idea what the time changing or, I'm just so confused. Is this baby's like, it's actually seven o'clock, oh, I don't know. No, I think the fact that I'm assuming that this was an all-round show. This can't be happy. My life is over. It's going so fast. What time's the train getting here? Like, what are we talking about? I don't think this thing. I think that these things are the equivalent of if you cut a sandwich raw, you know? Yeah, it's just like getting them out of their comfort zone. It's just like, that's not what they wanted. Yes. And typically, with especially a four year old, you're talking about, they have a firm opinion on something. They, that's exactly how they want it. Not how we handle this. My four year old had a meltdown because the time and his watch kept changing. Just take the batters out. Yeah, take the batters out. Keep changing it back. This one seems like a pretty simple one to solve. Yeah, just keep winding that thing back. He's about to wind it backwards. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you don't want it to change. Yet time is relevant. It's hard to know what watch time is relevant. Yeah, right. Yeah. Let me tell you about time. Let me tell you about time. Time is relative. That's about all I know about the theory of relativity. Go down a rabbit hole. If you run fast enough, this watch will actually go back. You can put a movie on. It's called Back to the Future. Not even a cloud teaches better than I can. There we go. Oh, man, that'll have the kids glued. All right. Classic. The next one by the book at PA Papa's books. All right. This morning, my nine year old called me a fat bit. And proceeded to try to run away because we were forcing her to go to the dentist. Yeah. Wow. How are you guys handling getting called a fat bitch? If I. No comment. I got to keep this one in house. Oh, man. Nine year old too. I always swear Donna goes to one time. There's a reason. And I saw that one time. 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I have to be honest about that. Nine seems nine seems like that's what that's like fifth fifth grade about four fifth grade. Yeah, four. Man, this is what I would do. This is what I would do. If my nine year old called me a fat bitch, I'll say Santa, Santa just heard you. You think Santa's gonna accept that? We're gonna see who's a fat no having bitch on Christmas. Oh my God. Yeah. It's just the dentist. That's all we're doing. We're just going to the dentist. The dentist was always a good time for me and Jason. Well, that's because we went to the popcorn shop afterwards every time. Yeah, we got candy to enjoy later, but that's right. Yeah, after the four-eyed treatment ran out. Yeah, after we would play video games for 30 minutes in the waiting room. Yeah, freaking Mrs. Dr. Hall had the freaking, it was, this is all a doctor name, a lady name. I forget her doctor. I forget it, man. I feel like an idiot. Anyways, yeah, that practice is great. He had like an Nintendo then up to two a super Nintendo then Nintendo 64 out in the waiting room. We only had highlights magazines. We had those two. Yeah, good. It was a weird spot. And where's Waldo books? We all know. Yeah, we have where's Waldo on the ceiling. Yeah, really? And maybe down the ceiling, but there were in there, there was like in the thing. The eyes by books though, everybody had already circled every traps just like somebody else did that. Yeah, somebody got to it before I did. What's the you? No, I would have though. I would have thought it was going to for everybody. All right. Yeah, I don't really know what I feel old. Nine feels old. Nine feels old. Have to reprimand them for first of all. What do you mean? I mean, like when our kids say something they shouldn't say right now, it's open your mouth. It's open your mouth. Nice. So what do you say with a nine? How are you supposed to open a nine year old's mouth? I mean, I suppose you could. I mean, they might, I mean, nine year old. Why it's six? It's only three more years. You're right. You're right. You just got to scare them another way. You got to scare them into where that leads to. Like you keep calling people fat bitches. You're going to prison. You got to take them to prison. You got to show them what prison looks like. We did nine year old is not nine year old. We did have to explain to why at the other day, what, like what the meaning of fat is. She did not like my explanation. Here's about nine year old. You still the people in your explanation. Oh, fat is. So she asked what does fat mean? And I said, well, fat is a layer of your skin. I said, everybody has fat. It's all over your body. It's in your face. It's in your legs. It's all over. Everybody has fat. She was like, yeah, but what does it mean? And I knew what she meant. She meant, if I were to call someone fat, was that mean? Yeah. Like what am I, what am I calling them? Yeah. And why do they not like it? Yeah. And why is that terribly mean? And so then I said, what do you think fat means? And she said, like, Chubby? And I was like, yeah, that can also mean that. And she was like, okay. And I was like, but you don't call people that you can talk about the fat on your body, but you don't, you don't say that about somebody else. And she was like, uh-huh. It was, it was, it was not, it doesn't seem promising. But we'll see. And also calling someone fat is completely different than calling someone a fat bitch. There's a tension up and on. To be fair, why it, uh, why it test drove the word bitch couple times. Did she? Not. Well, the one time I do remember she used it in proper context, which wasn't difficult. Ellie was inside the house and why it was closed in the front door and she went, it closed it really slowly and said it the same side. And it's smooth as I open the door. She was like, sorry. And immediate buyers remorse. Immediate. Yeah. Because she knew what was coming. It was, it was a bar or so. Did you give her the bar or no? Uh, I don't know that she got that time because she had buyers remorse very quickly, but she has gotten it before, which is why she knows I'm not joking about a bar or so. Nice. You can't do empty threats. That's what you can't do. That's what you can't do. Well, this is my way of the time. I don't know if a bar or soap is too, if a nine year old tool for a bar or soap, but it's not too old to strike fear for sure. I mean, I would, I would maybe go so far as to look up pictures of people without their dentures in and see how she feels about that. Be like, this is what happens. Now we're going to have to address the fact, we're going to have to address the fat bitch thing before we get to the tension. I just feel like the fat bitch thing probably listen, here you short fuck up stairs. You're a time out. Yeah, also nine is such an awkward age. Like, what do they have that you can take away? Huh? Everything? They're freedom. Everything. Air jam. You're trying to take all of it. Yeah. God damn, that's good. Fat bitch. And like, the crazy part is, is that child heard it somewhere? God, I could have heard it anywhere. Nine year old has access to the internet. Like, well, time out there. I'm anxious to hear it. A lot of nine year old nowadays have access to the internet. That's pretty scary. I think they can hear it at school. They can hear it in like a TV thing. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Nine year olds. Yeah. That's that. That bitch is so nasty. This is so aggressive. Yeah. I'm not saying the word. You got to like, unless it's in a playful way, I just don't, I don't think it holds a lot of weight. Yeah. You call it, you call it fat bitch by your kid. Just say that I get called a bitch off the husband. You know, sometimes I wear it. Not funny. All right. My daughter four years old. Throwing a fit because her brother six flushed his poop before she could see. I mean, that's a very, I get told every time I'm wiping babies ass, don't flush the toilet. I want to look at it, which I understand. I'm 38 years old. And I still look at it in my ship before I flush it. Yeah. You got it. You got to take a look at it. It's just proper like hygiene. And it's important to understand if you got shit issues. You got to know. You got to know. You got to know. You got it. Don't flush it. But yo, you got to take a look at that shit. Yeah. You got to see how your time just kind of with kind of went the four year old being upset about this. I will tell you, I have an embarrassing number of shits in my camera roll that are child. Let me, let me clarify. They're from children. Uh, when I've sent them to Jason, where are potty training? Then like, I would be like, Hey, look at that. That shit on that shit in a toilet. That's what happens with mom's at house. You should have accomplished. Yeah. So I did realize at the other day that my, my camera roll has some good shit in it. A good eight to 10 photos of a toilet. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna tell you, I'm with the four year old on this one. I think you need to remember in the six year old. What the fuck you doing flushing that shit before anybody's taking a look at it? All right. That's no, no, no. It's damaged. It was his shit. He tried for your old, growing up there should have been able to see she wanted to see his shit and he flushed it. My brother, my daughter four year old throwing a fit because her brother flushed his shit. Yes. For oh, well, yeah. I mean, that's not your business. All right. Now I can't get it. Now I kind of get it. All right. That's his business. You just got to say like listen, everybody shit is their own shit. The bathroom is the bathroom. You get privacy. Every knows that. You get your own only you get to look at that shit. You have to handle your own. You can. Yeah. Yes. There's only few places in this world that you get to be just with your thoughts and your shit. And the bathroom is one of them. Yes. That's so bad. All right. Well, it is the holidays. So let's get to a little Christmas. Let's talk some Christmas here with Kai. Kai, the camera help us with the new heights gift guide for dudes who can't shop good. Nice. We'll give you a genre of gift and you tell us good, bad trash, awesome idea for the fellas that are listening to the show. All right. Our first one, we're just going to wrap and fire these things. Make up. Good, bad. What do you like? Should we buy makeup for you? Should we be buying makeup for women? For women. For women, if they enjoy it, I think it's very obvious. When a woman enjoys makeup, you can determine that on your. For me, no, don't fucking buy me. Should men just be buying makeup without knowing the specific makeup that no, but you can go into a certain makeup stores and look up their account based on their phone number and know what their frequently shopped things are. Wow. There you go, boys. Is that damn it? It's a good one. It's like stalkerish or good gift giving. I mean, it does, it's a great strategy. I just feel like I feel like I got a brilliant by feeling like I have that some invasion of my privacy by these companies. I mean, maybe they won't like you, but I think that they will. All right. Well, you try. Next one. Anything health or fitness related. Is it a fat bitch? Does feel a little fat bitchy. Hey, look at this treadmill. You fat bitch. That's how it's. You're asking the wrong person because I would say yes. I was going to say you got like a hell of a ton or something cool. You're a woman of everyone. So I would go with more general, not just more general. I would say in less she explicitly asked for it. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It's like other degrees. No, like health, health related. I feel like there's some in there that won't feel like you're trying to send a signal. Yeah, I was going to say, but what if you are trying to send a signal? Well, sometimes don't do. Don't period. What if you write on the card we could work out together? Can't wait to use this as well. I know. How long is it going to take to make a voyage? You also buy a set of pants that are size smaller. With the card that says you can do that. A little extra motor. No, aggressively. Give cards. If it's to a store that you know that she shops, yes. I think some women might find this to be a little impersonal. I think it depends on the relationship with the person you're getting. Agreed. But also with online shopping, then she's guaranteed to get something she wants. I know. Come right to her door. I just feel like if you're at somebody special, I wouldn't roll into the holidays with just a gift card. That's a good man. Right there. It's best advice Jason's ever given right there. Yes, honestly. What about just nice clothing? Sure. I don't see why not. I would air on the small shirts. You can also send some signals there. That would piss me off. Airing smaller or bigger? Smaller. Make you more mad? Yeah. If you get me something, I actually want to wear it. And if I want to wear it, I would rather it be too big than too small. I am in the minority. Don't do that. I'm giving that advice. Don't do that. Yeah. If you're going to go for something, I was smaller. I would say you think I'm a 20. You think I'm a 20. Oh my god. He doesn't even know. He doesn't even know. He literally has no idea. He picked a random number. Let's be honest. Women's sizes don't make any sense. They don't. Men's sizes are the actual circumference of our weights. Yes. Her diameter. Yes. What are women's sizes? Is this arbitrary numbers? If you remember, different at every store. In every brand. Makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense at all. All right. She's a size 34 waist. What should we say? That's a four. Yeah, just drop the three. I think I just get that three out of you. We got to get this into single digits. Some of them. Some pants are, I believe. Yeah, those are the kind I like. I think some pants are similar to men. But then there's others that are two through 20 something. So there are women's pants that have the same size as men? I'm going to weigh size. I'm going to weigh size. I just make sure to get the fuck in. It's all brand specific stuff. Yeah. It is. It's so dumb. What about scented candles? Yes. I would love a scented candle, but we're not going to burn the door. I'm anti candles. I jewelry jewelry. How do I feel? I'm doing it. I candles. No, I don't like chemicals. Just being burned and thrust into the air for me to be breathing in all day to get fucking brain cancer. Oh my god. That is quite the stance. Yeah. I'm not. I don't think it makes any sense. Why would I want some artificial fucking flower thing in the air that some person made in a lab from some combination of vegetable this and that and this essence. I don't want it in my face. Although I do like the charcoal. I do like do it. I'm charcoal. Cologne. I'll go that. But the scented candle. It's just like, no, you don't like perfume. Perfume either. I'm not. When we first started dating, he was like, I don't like lipstick. I don't like perfume. I don't like scented candles. And I was like, well, I don't wear lipstick. I barely wear. You're making this seem like I was giving you ultimatums. This is not how this went down. That's why I'm not in the natural discussion. And then I just said that I'm not afraid. That's true. That's true. I'll give you that. And now Benny just puts lipstick on old day. And I just say. All day. Fuckin love, Benny. Julie, the gift that we thought to give our mother every birthday and Christmas. In particular, earrings. Yes. The jewelry part was not the issue she eventually had. Is the problem is she eventually had 50 pairs of earrings. To be fair, I feel like your mom mixes up her jewelry quite a bit. Yeah. Is that a now thing or was that when you were growing up? Because I lied to you if I told you. I think it's a now thing. She might I remember she was always like presentable and looks nice. She's like now I got all these fucking earrings. I think that's what it is. Yeah, I think she just over the over time. She's just kind of accumulated. Yep. She's a good idea. Most women don't like jewelry. Jewelry's a great idea. There's varying degrees of jewelry. 100% is there a bad degree of jewelry? I mean, would you get something from like, I mean, like, oh, this is not it. Yeah, don't get mad. I don't know that I would be mad. I just think that if it's going to turn your skin green, probably don't get it as a gift. Skin green, that's a thing. Women know what I'm talking about. Yeah. And also they should be selling those things. No, they shouldn't, but they do. So let's avoid that. I don't know. Is there how long into a relationship? Is there like a time frame that you should be in a relationship before you go the jewelry routers jewelry always like acceptable? I feel like it's. Jewels like the opposite of gift cards. Do you think? Gift cards you can go in a very like low level relationship, maybe just a friendly coworker relationship. Nice. If you show up with like a really nice pair of jewelry to a coworker, that's going to sense a mix sense. I'm so fucking high alert. He had to bring up love actually. High alert. I didn't realize. Well, that was, he was getting a necklace to the, what was it? Secretary. Secretary. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you should have been buying. I think there's a great spectrum of jewelry that I think that you can hit any time in a relationship. Like, you could get a cute pair of little studs for someone and that's, that's sufficient. What about like kitchen appliances? I will say what if what if what if he's the favorite gift that I got or was the bread slicer? Oh, nice. Because she's been throwing together so much fucking sourdough. I got the best gut health there is. I love you, Terry. And it is true. Like, one of the unfortunate things with making fresh bread is trying to cut that shit is hard. And and sliding it to be deal. Yeah. More importantly, the responsibility to eat it. What? Oh, no. That's an easy part. I take it upon myself to crush it as fast as possible. Yeah. And that's probably not great. No, it's all, it's fresh. Yeah. Bread if it's not like, if it hasn't been like, no preservatives. The preservatives in there and made shelf stable. Not healthy. It's so good. What about like, uh, like beauty products like, uh, like red light mass and like, red light exfoliating creams? Yes. Yes, no idea what you're talking about. I think that those, the people who would love receiving those gifts, you are going to be able to tell because you can go into their bathroom and see that they have the exfoliators and all of the different night serums and all of that. The mist, the face mist. Yes. If you know they're beauty routine, they're nighttime routine, is a lengthy one. This is probably the category for you on gift. Nice. But some of those products are expensive. Yeah. Yeah. So you turn it back time. Yep. You are. How do you feel about a mug with like, world's best mom on it? I'm pretty sure your dad got me that. That's a bit of an ed Kelsey staple, I think. With pictures of like a picture of our family. Yep. Nope. That's that's an ed Kelsey staple right there. You have to local screen pretty shop and you'll get some mugs made. I love that. I'm gonna tell our cabinet right now. This is not a joke. So that we have it in our cabinet right now. Is it a good? Is it good? Is it good? It's a good printing shop. I get some mugs. It's literally a mullkey. It's a big big good. Oh my gosh. It's so good. It's like, all right, December 4th. Yep. Head to the store. Get some mugs. To the mullkey. That's the end of the ball. I'm fine. That's a good gift. I'm just asking. I don't know. Nice. Well, this has been the new heights gift guide for dudes who can't shop good and Kylie, thank you so much for giving. It's probably some more advice. Oh my god. No, I think they got, I think they got somewhere for sure. Okay. Yeah. So make sure you get those pelotons, guys. This episode is releasing on Christmas Eve. So hopefully you've already done your shopping, guys. But good luck. So all the fellas. Yeah. There's tips for next year or your next relationship. Yeah. If it doesn't end well, this Christmas. We have one last thing for you, Kai, before you get a body here. And it's one last segment before we get a body here. And says it's the holidays. We wanted to get Kylie a gift from the show. This can't be good. It's going to be so good. No. This can't be good. I think this is the key ask that Ed Kelsing goes to. This is Katy. Personalization mall. Should we lift this up? Now that doesn't contain our address, yes. Show show. Do I know what this is? What is it? Wait, what? Not what she thought it was. Oh, you show everybody. Is this a husband whistle? It's a husband whistle. Anytime you want Jason to do some chores and get his attention to get the shit done now. It's a little like boyfriend whistle. Go ahead. Go ahead and get that thing around. Let's hear it. To be fair, I got a built in one. Yeah, yeah, we call it is. I've seen it in action too. It definitely works. I'm excited about this. This is good. Don't try to take my wife's home. This is not for you. This is for me. Thank you so much. Everyone at the New Heights team. You know what's funny? When I shook it and I heard it, I was thought to myself, am I getting a Kelsey Bell? Kelsey Bell. Because we have yours. We have an ornament that is a Travis. It's like the little bear and it's a bell. Oh, it's an ornament. We'll give it to you eventually. It's on our tree right now. No, it can stay there. I thought first listen, but if you I thought it was a bell. It definitely sounds like I don't know exactly the same. No, it's just to boss my husband around. Get your shit done, Jason. I need it. It's only the trash. It's only the trash I need. Kylie, this will be again, a record setting, episode for us. So thank you guys. No, it won't, but happy fucking holiday. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Be me to it. Thanks for joining us, guy. Anytime. Anytime. Don't I'm that's a lie. Don't. I'm this. We will exhaust that. All right, here's the deal. You guys have been mailing us stuff all year, and we finally decided to show some of it off. We don't know what's in the boxes. I think Interim Brandon or Jess Shaker, whoever's handling the PO box does know, but regardless, welcome to new heights show and tell. Brought to you by Netflix. Oh, shout out to Netflix, baby. It is the holiday season. So we figured it's only right. Then we opened some of the presents. Some of United Jupers centers have been sending us. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I'll get the first one because this night have been wrapped and it's one of the coolest things that I've seen since I was there. And that is the Chicago ESPN zone hat, maybe. Oh, this thing fits like a glove already. Look at this thing, Jason. That thing is so. It's so dope. It was something life changing when we first went into the ESPN zone in Chicago. It was like it was incredible. It was insane. It was insane. I was like, I was made for this. This is my home. The coolest thing ever. There was like that. There's the indoor, like there's like the little ice shrink. That's the one I remember this one. Yeah. Yeah. And they had the same thing with basketball too. I have. Open that one Travis. I will drink a lot of beers out of this. A lot of beers will just be have dry. Yes, I'm glad. Look at that. Look how this is crashed from ship right here. Check out this. Pure crash. Just says Greg. Oh, we've got to see who it's from. I don't know. It just says Greg right here. I'll say it. I'll say it. But it's just a nice cute dog with the dog pound hat on. Look at those floppy ears. Man, that's adorable. Is the dog pound. Yeah, dog pound. I mean, it's like a baby dog pound. Oh, here's from Greg from one proud Clevelander to two others who never forget where they came from. Thank you. Inside the box are a few pieces of my world. As a pet and wildlife animal photographer, bassier and Cleveland, my 2026 Rex you dog calendar, the 2026 Gatsby, the Galaxy Kidding calendar, the 2026 Fox tail sanctuary calendar, all filled with animals who remind us of kindness and why it matters. No, I mean, portion of sales from all calendars, good organizations, you take care of animals, you need us the most. I also had a photo I took of a rescue otter for the Cleveland. Travis, that must be yours. Check your box now for your otter. Thank you, Greg. Yeah, Greg, thank you. Oh, since we were talking about forging our own knives. You got a knife action? Oh, yeah. How does this work? Oh, yeah, be careful. Be careful. Be careful. Be careful. Nice man, it's saying sweet. Wow, Jason, you have one of those too. Damn, this thing's legit. Oh, whoa. I got some genwota for the tree. Genwota, shout out to the heights, heights alumni. Cleveland's finest. Oh, this is awesome. Let's go. Bitch, I'm from Cleveland Heights. Let's go. Jason, look. Nice. That's legit. This really feels like Christmas. This is crazy. I love that. I'm going to start drinking coffee out of there. Thank you, John. All right. Somebody from Marjorie S. Merry Christmas, everyone. Jason and Kali, hope you enjoy these and your girls fill them with love. If you would like matching ones for the girls, I let me know who knows I might make them anyways. We got a dead eagle stocking. That's legit. And a mom Wonder Woman stocking. Nice. She is. She's Wonder Woman. Thank you, Marjorie. Marjorie sounds like somebody who knits. Found my otter. That's awesome. I look how happy this little guy is. A little girl is. Nice, dude. I got ESPN's own thing too. Dude, this thing is that this thing has been worn. Hells. Yeah. That thing looks just so fucking sweet. That's a great color. Wait to rock this thing. That is a great color on you. You know, like when it's been like, we've got like mildew. Is she's been sitting at a box forever? Smell. Oh, that smells so good. That thing is awesome. Jason, did you find your knife yet? Yeah, I got my knife. It's pretty incredible. It's cool, right? Very cool. Dude, I think it's extremely dangerous. Extremely dangerous. I like that it goes back in. I don't know how they did that. Yeah. So it's like a double spring mechanism. You got a man. That's cool. This is there's a whole letter to you in term brand. I don't know if you read this. Probably. Which one was this? Deer in term brand. If you're reading this, this means you've laid eyes on my masterpiece. Did you work a part that took an entire day of my life to color? Oh, yeah. So I'm going to need you to pass it along to Jason and Jess before I start crying on the floor. Anyways, my name is Amel. Amelie? Amelie? Amelie? I'm 22, graduated from Florida, stay last December. And I started Chloe and Maisie company. A coloring book brand inspired by my two dogs. Yeah, she made a custom like new heights coloring thing. 10% of all proceeds are donated to Amelress you. Nice. And then I think there's some stuff in there for the girls to color. This is from Amelie. Otter. Do the otters good. That's so good. The otters good. Guys, what do you think of the PO box? I'm a big fan. We get a bunch of free cool stuff. Yeah. I assume that you grabbed all the good stuff and you get the sum of the. Look at this. That thing sweet. I got a custom baseball. Jake, wait, Jake, show him what you got. Somebody sent this to Jake specifically. I also got that jersey, which is pretty sweet. I'm pretty sure I got that exact baseball jersey too. But then I don't know if you guys remember this from season one. Someone made a Christmas card with me as the little elf and a big Yeti Travis. Yukon Cornelius Jason. And then shout out my wife. She made it into a Christmas sweater. No. You guys are awesome. That's your percentage of the best. Thank you for all the cool stuff. Thanks for tuning in each week. Thanks for tuning into this week. And hopefully you guys have a Merry Christmas. Have a wonderful time with your families. And that wraps up New Heights Show and Tell. New Heights Show and Tell is brought to you by Netflix. Hey, you. Got some fun stuff coming out on Netflix during the holidays. 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I'm going to be slicing boxes, putting them in the categories and getting them out there on the curb. Yeah. Why would somebody with a BBL me to sit on a cushion? I don't even get a loudest in the rest. I think they have to lay down. That's the joke of when they all come when all the people who get BBLs come back on the laying down. That's only for like while tealing. Once it's healed it's like you got a permanent sea cushion. You don't even get permanent cushion. Let me tell you about all the research done in the BBLs. Yeah. You just take the outdoor furniture. You just take the cushion off because you got the BBL. You don't need the cushion. You already got the cushion added. So bad. Do you think when they sit on if you have a BBL and you sit on Brandon actually highlighted it says Jason. It's always highlighted. Yeah. If you sit on your BBL on like a cold steel bench, do you think you feel it or do you think it's? Yes. I think you do. They're not killing the nerves when they do it. Yeah, but does it insulate in some ways or something? You got to insulate it as. I don't. I don't have the BBL. That's the evolution. You got the heater and cooler coming in next. I'm going to have BBL AC and heat coolers, heat seats. Like in the car, you can just press the button on which one you want it to be. That's going to be the next evolution of BBLs. It has turn signals on it. It comes with an app and you can turn your heated seat on and your fence. My BBLs Wi-Fi enabled. It's a hot spot. Do you want to do that? I do. Can you get your ass over here real quick? I'm trying to look at that. It's got a popery, like a built-in, whenever you fart, it just squirts popery out with it. This BBL comes with a popery gland. This is why this thing is so long. You remember the shock of this podcast? It's the thing that helps to replace it. Most of it is on YouTube. That is fucking brilliant. Be sure if the AC and heat seats and the popery. Yeah. Dude, that's a fucking thing. You're selling themselves. My G-1. My G-1. My G-1. Never was interested. I wasn't doing it for the look of it, but I mean, if it's coming with all these. You ever sat on a heat seat when it's come down? It's nice. I can have that at any time. I want it. Thank you. Oh.