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The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenveck program. Hello America, it's Friday. And we got a lot. I'm going to start with Epstein, man. This thing is, this is craziness. Just when you think, all right, it gets even crazier. We're going to talk about that. Also, who have Alan Dershowitz talked about that as well at the bottom of the hour, coming up in about 30 minutes. Also the Save Act, Trump on the National Day of Prayer, is this what we've been asking for forever? I mean, is this Abraham Lincoln at Gettysburg? I hope. Also what's happening with Bitcoin? I've got a little bit to say about that. And so much more on today's program. But we are going to start with Epstein in 60 seconds. First, a lot of Americans are doing their best to stay ahead financially. But I mean, it can feel like your life is just slipping away from you. You're just running on a treadmill. 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Call 8009062440 for details about credit costs and terms. From CBS News. Newly released Department of Justice documents show that investigators reviewing surveillance footage from the night of Jeffrey Epstein's death observed an orange colored shape. I don't know about you, but orange colored shapes move around my house all the time. An orange colored shape was moving up the staircase towards the isolated locked tier where Jeffrey Epstein's cell was located at approximately 1039 p.m. on August 9, 2019. That entry in an observation log of the video from the Metropolitan Correctional Center appears to suggest something previously unreported by authorities. A flash of orange looks to be going up the L tier stairs could possibly be an inmate escorted up to that tier. That's what's in their observation log. This again reported now by CBS News. It also appears, according to an FBI memorandum that reviews by investigators left disparate conclusions by the FBI and those examining the same video from the Department of Justice Office of Inspector General. FBI log describes the fuzzy image as possibly an inmate. I don't know if you know this, but inmates at 1039 are not going around in that area outside of their cell. So FBI, that doesn't make sense. The Inspector General logs it as an officer carrying orange linen or bedding. Okay, we now know they knew when they wrote that in there, they knew that bedding is delivered the shift before this. So it would have been five o'clock in the afternoon before these people were even in. That's when you deliver bedding. No one is allowed on that floor at 1039. You would have to lock, you would have to log in. So delivering bedding? No. The guards say that would have been a breach of protocol and you would have had to sign something. The final report says approximately 1039 PM and unidentified CEO appeared to walk up the L tier stairway. So we're no longer just an orange shape. This orange shape seems to have legs and then reappeared within the view of the camera at 1041 PM. Official report state that Epstein died by suicide sometime before 630 AM when his body was discovered before breakfast, blah, blah, blah. In-depth analysis of surveillance video from the jail, CBS news previously reported on the figure on the stairs and consulted independent video analysts who say the movement was more consistent with an inmate or someone wearing an orange prison uniform than a corrections officer. The new records raise more questions about the activity near Epstein's tier late that evening. Official reviews of Epstein's death make no mention of the figure in. Let me just say official reviews of Epstein's death. Make no mention of the figure in orange and later pronouncements from authorities, including the attorney general at the time, Bill Barr, were that no one entered Epstein's housing tier the night of his death last summer in an interview on Fox and friends. Then deputy FBI director Dan Bonsino said, quote, there's video clear as day. He is the only person in there and the only person coming out. You can see it. Prison employees interviewed by CBS news said escorting an inmate at that hour would have been highly unusual. The identification of the individual could have been crucial to reconstructing the events. You think so? Given that the sighting occurred within the estimated window of Epstein's possible time of death. Okay, this, I warn you, this is about to get worse. The staircase leading to his cell tier was captured by the only camera known to have been recording that night, positioned in a way that partially obscured the approach to Epstein's tier. Government investigators relied heavily on that footage and reconstructing the timeline of the events. But because of the camera's angle, it was not possible to rule out whether somebody could have climbed the stairs and entered the tier without being clearly visible. CBS news analyst of that analysis of that video found additional contradictions between what the video showed and the official statements. Okay, you ready? Buckle up. I just learned some things in the next few paragraphs that I didn't know. Among those interviewed were the two corrections officers assigned to the unit that night. Let me just ask you, what do you know about these guys? All I know about these guys is they fell asleep. Okay, that's all I know about them. Tova Noel and Gito Bonholm were assigned to the unit that night. They've not been publicly identified until now. Document show Bonholm was interviewed twice in September 2019 in sessions conducted in lieu of a grand journey, Jerry Sapina. Interesting. According to Noles account, Bonholm had been working multiple consecutive shifts and slept while on duty for a period of approximately 10 p.m. and midnight. Investigators also questioned Noelle about the unexplained change in the recorded number of inmates in the S.H.U., which appeared to drop from 73 to 72 sometime between 10 and 3 a.m. She said she was just probably mistaken about the discrepancy and told investigators she had no memory of account changing. Okay, I'm just going to just dismiss that one. That's just somebody just writing the wrong number in. Okay, let's just go with that. You can't do it with the rest of this stuff. Neither officer, neither officer were specifically asked about the orange colored figure noted in the video observation log. Bonholm told investigators that he did not remember the period between 10 p.m. and midnight, said he had no recollection of anyone walking up the stairs towards Epstein's tear round 1030. Yeah, because he was asleep. He added, however, that a jail employee entering a tear alone would have violated all of their policies. Probably sleep would have too. A separate internal presentation, including included in the document released, described a corrections officer believed by investigators to be Noelle carrying linen or inmate clothing up to the tear. The 2023 Inspector General report did not identify Noelle as the figure seen in the footage. In her interview, Noelle told investigators distributing linen was not part of my duties. I never gave out linen ever because that's done on the shift prior. Okay. So they leave this out in the Inspector General report, but they do not address the orange figure that is moving up. They just say it's not these two. You ready? Okay, here we go. Thomas and Noelle failed to complete inmate counts at 3 a.m. and 5 a.m. as well as mandatory 30-minute wellness checks of Epstein. All night long, they didn't do any of those things. Thomas and Noelle were later charged with falsifying records certifying the inmate counts had been completed. Several prosecutors eventually dropped the charges in exchange for cooperation agreements that included interviews. A transcript of Thomas's interview conducted two years after Epstein's death and released in the recent document disclosure shows significant gaps in his recollection of the morning Epstein was found. Ready? Thomas told investigators he discovered Epstein in his cell shortly after 6.30 a.m. on August 10th and that he ripped Epstein down from the hanging position. Investigators asked, What happened to the news? What happened to the news? Have you heard any of this before? What happened to the news? Quote, I don't recall taking the news off. I really don't. I don't recall taking the thing from around his neck. Noelle, who remained standing at the cell entrance, told investigators she saw Thomas lower Epstein to the floor but did not see a noose around his neck. The news Epstein allegedly used has never been identified. According to the Inspector General's report, a noose collected at the scene was later determined not to be the noose used in Epstein's death. Okay, all right. First you had us believe that it was a paper noose. Now you're saying the paper noose that was found was not the noose that killed him. In fact, you can't find the noose, the paper noose. And this one was later added to the scene by whom? By whom? By whom? By whom? Thomas also described Epstein as shirtless when they found him. Evidence records indicate a shirt believed to have been cut from Epstein's body was later returned from the hospital and a bag of personal stuff. New documents also show that New York City's Office of the Chief Medical Examiner reviewed the jail surveillance footage six days after the death as part of his investigation but concluded the video was too blurry to identify any individuals. As later the office publicly ruled Epstein's death a suicide. Wait, you don't have the murder or suicide weapon. The weapon that you do have the noose is not the noose that killed him. No explanation on how that arrived later at the scene. You have a blurry figure. I don't care that you can't identify. You have a blurry figure going up in the middle of the night and you can't identify that individual. But it's a blurry figure going up and yet you rule this a suicide. That is fascinating to me. By the way CBS News previously reported on the office's unorthodox handling of the crime scene. Okay. Let me do a commercial and then come back. And let's just think about this for a second. Shall we? Give me 60 seconds. Rapid radios. The moment you really need to reach somebody is the moment your phone decides it's done helping you, right? I mean you're outside, you're on the road, you're at an event, you're just in a crowded place. Networks jammed, networks are out. 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Rapidradios.com. Check it out now. 10 seconds. Back to the back. Okay. What is the biggest problem in America right now? What is the problem that we face? I think there are two big problems. One, we have no idea how our government works. We can't describe our rights. We can't describe our responsibilities. We have no idea about the three branches of government. No one knows how this system works. And so it's working however it wants to work because the people have fallen asleep. There's problem number one. Number two, because the people fell asleep, there's all kinds of shady stuff going on that we all know now because it is so, I'll bet you a third of our budget is gone in graphed and bribes and whatever. I'll bet you a third of our federal budget is nothing but a con. You know that, I know that. You can't trust the media. You can't trust anybody anymore. And now when they release, this is the problem with the Epstein thing. This is the ultimate test of trust. You have to get trust back or you don't have a nation. So nothing has felt right with this. Nothing has felt right with this. I don't know what you're going to find if anything because I think so many people are involved. Would I like to get to the bottom of this? Yes. Do I think we're going to get to the bottom of this? No, but thank God people are still looking into it that actually have the ability to look into it. We still have a FISA warrant out or a FISA request out. Oh, sorry, not FISA. That's why I was getting screwed up. FOIA, a FOIA request, Freedom of Information Act about this. And we've been stone walled from the government. I'd like to know why. And you know what? It would answer a lot of these questions, I think, because what we FOIAed is happening right at the time that they're saying there's nothing to be seen here. So thank God people are still digging in and looking. But let me just go through the problems that this is now caused. You have an orange flash on the stairs. Were you told of that? Did we ever heard that before from, I mean, from any source in the government? We were told there is nothing there. Clearly, friends and foes both looked at that video and said there is nothing there. CBS had some analysts look into it and they're like, well, what's that orange thing moving up? That's obviously a person. Okay. I thought there was nothing there. Problem number two. They knew this right away. They knew it right away and then they dismissed it as if it was nothing. Three. There's no time of death. The medical examiner said because they took the body down, he couldn't tell a time of death. Now all my criminal CSI knowledge comes from television and I know, I know reality is not television, but you can't tell me that because you move the body, you couldn't put your hand on the corpse and go, okay, that was an hour ago or that was last night at 10 30. Just the body cooling would have told you something. The medical examiner cannot assign time of death. Well, that's interesting because if you could say it happened between 10 and midnight, maybe we would have been able to narrow things down, but because it could have been done at three o'clock in the morning, could have been done at 545. They walked in at 630. He might have done it at 629. That's bull crap and you and I know it. And then the worst thing is they don't remember the news. Nobody remembers taking the news off. Nobody remembers seeing a news. And then another news, which they have determined was not the news used just magically appears in the cell later. Excuse me. I mean, there's just no way to square this circle. There's no way to do it. You cannot with any credibility say, yeah, this guy committed suicide. We may turn out that he committed suicide, but not until you lock all these other things down who put the fricking news. The cameras weren't working at 630. The cameras weren't working at 630. They were turned off. 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It's how shoot it just I just lost it. But it's from Gabby and it said, yeah, I always carry around an extra paper news. I mean, come on. That one is just that's insanity. Alan Dershowitz is with us now. We're going to talk about that. If we have time Charlie Kirk, the murder trial and so much more Alan, how are you, sir? Hey, I'm doing great. I'm in Florida where it's nice and warm and not in the dark where it was, you know, 10 degrees. So I'm very happy. I'm writing away. I'm on my 65th book. So what could be better? Jeez. Oh my gosh. How, you know what? You have the same kind of jeans as Donald Trump. You just never stop. You just never stop. Well, you know, let me see comes from Queens that come from Brooklyn. It's in the water. I think. Yeah. Yeah, I know you keep you keep moving or you or you die. Let me let me ask you about the latest thing from CBS news is about they now see an orange flash on the stairs and it's all in the documentation during the investigation. There was somebody there that has not been identified. There was a the officers that cut them, cut him down or took him down have no recollection of a news and then the news that was found in the cell, according to federal documents now, was not the news that did the job. It appeared later. Alan, wait, I mean, this story just keeps getting worse and worse and worse for credibility for anybody to believe anything. Well, the newest book I'm working on the title is it ain't necessarily so comes from the Gertwine song and Paul Gambass. It ain't necessarily so that's my attitude to it. Everything doubt always, always be a doubt or always wonder about the evidence. Don't believe what they told you. Make them prove it. Make them prove it. And I think your attitude on the show is always the same thing. Show me. Prove it. There are doubts. There are doubts. Like serious doubts. Yeah. I mean, every time I'm like, okay, we're not going to get to the bottom of this. Maybe we should just realize what we're dealing with. It's corrupt. But and then it just gets worse and you're like, okay, come on. Yeah, well, you know, I don't believe in truth as a stable fact. I believe in the truth in process. We are always trying harder and harder to get toward the truth. Look, just recently more doubts have been raised about whether there was a second shooter in the grassy knoll in the Kennedy case. And you know, that happened when I was a law clerk when I was 25 years old. And how many years ago that was, we still have doubts about that. And so we're going to have doubts about this until we resolve everything until every single doubt gets at least, least subject to a very, very, very careful analysis. And in the end, maybe we will know, maybe we won't know, but jury will probably make it a decision. Although there are hints that they may be a plea bargain at this point. We never know. So, you know, if there's a plea bargain, then the evidence doesn't really come out. And we may end up with even more doubts. I mean, that was the problem. That was the reason why we're still talking about the grassy knoll is because all of a sudden it went secret. The government decided there weren't going to share any information. Instead of just going, America, here it is. Here's all the information. They started to share. And even if there was nothing, even if the story was exactly the way they say it happened, even if that is true or was true, because of the way the government behaved, they encouraged these things. And we're going to point Alan that we're like, you've got nobody has any credibility left. And with I believe it's only going to get worse. It's good to get worse. I have to tell you an interesting story. This has not been well done. But when I was a law clerk, Earl Warren came to see me. He was the Chief Justice. And he said, I'm putting together a group called the Warren Commission. I'd like you to serve on it as a legal expert, legal assistant. I was, again, 25, 26 years old, won an honor. Mike, Justice, Justice Goldberg, came over to me and said, Alan, don't do it. And I said, why not? He said, because Lyndon Johnson has instructed Earl Warren that he is not to find Russian involvement. Because if he does, it'll be World War III. So the Warren Commission was given a mandate by the president. You can find anything you want. Do not find Russian involvement. Which means that it was fixed from the beginning. Now, the results may be true, but the process was completely distorted. And I took a advice. A friend of mine, John Ealy, great professor, served on the commission. And he ended up, after years and years, saying, you know, I believe the conclusion, but the process was so deeply flawed, so many secrets, so many things weren't revealed that I don't blame the American people for having doubts about it. That's going to be true of this case as well. Okay, so the radical transparent, because I'm for absolute radical transparency. I want to be transparent. Unless it is national security, I want radical transparency. Well, agree with that. We're sitting here looking now at files being dumped and are bad guys being lumped in with guys who had really nothing to do with it. They were just kind of in. I mean, I have no sympathy, you know, if you, you know, a lawyer is different. If you're doing business with Epstein after you know, you know, your friends with him, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, that's enough for me to go, you know, you may not have done anything, but I don't trust you anymore. But that doesn't mean criminal. Yeah, that's a fair point, but look, in the most recent dump, it has a person, her name or his name is redacted, probably her, her name is redacted. And it said she gave Alan Dershowitz a massage on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. And then it says, Paretta, this is not a minor. In other words, here is an adult making a serious accusation against me and the government withholds her name. We don't know whether she's a victim or not. We do know that she's a criminal because telling the FBI a lie, I was never on an Epstein plane with a young woman. I never got them aside from anybody telling a lie to the FBI is a felony. So we know she's a felony. And yet the government is redacting her name because of pressure. So how do you how do you fight against something like that when the government has all of the tool because I fought against the government on a freedom of speech thing and they withheld. I mean, I I had the documents, but they wouldn't accept it unless it came from the government. I'm like, well, they're not going to give it to you. They didn't. They stonewalled the judge. I mean, how do you fight against the government? Well, first I'm going to write a letter to the Justice Department demanding that the name of the person be revealed. If they refuse to do that, then I'm going to follow a lawsuit. And I think the government under the Sixth Amendment has no right to withhold an accuser's name. The Sixth Amendment gives every American the right to confront their accusers. Now I was accused of something else, which I'm very proud of. I wish it was true, but it isn't. There's another confidential informant. I have no who he is in this case, but a confidential FBI informant who says that Alan Dershowich is a Mossad agent who communicated all of Jeffrey Epstein's material to the Mossad. Now I'd be very proud to be a Mossad agent. It's one of the great organizations in the world that stops terrorists. But I'm not. I have nothing to do with being an agent for the Mossad. But again, I'm going to demand that the name of the confidential informant who I happen to know and who the FBI said is utterly untrustworthy be produced. So I have a chance at least to sue that person or go after that person in some other way in the marketplace of ideas. But right now what we're seeing is selective reduction, selectively, and it's not transparency at all. Alan, let me go to the Charlie Kirk. Yes, sure. First of all, what is the deal with the prosecutor having somebody on his team whose daughter was there? I mean, is that a big deal? Because I mean, I listen to the testimony. It didn't seem like that affected anything. Is that a big deal or not? No, I don't think so. Look, when you have a case like this, everybody has to be seizures, wife. Everybody has to be above reproach that can't be any complex of interest. But this doesn't sound like a big deal to me. Okay. And the watching it again, you know, they've been trying to get this so you can't see it. I don't think there is a case that is more important to have radical transparency and know everything that's happening in the case, see the trial. Like we saw the OJ Simpson trial. We handled it then. Why can't we handle the Charlie Kirk trial? I agree with you. I think all trials should be open. I don't think there should be such a thing as a close trial unless there's national security involved. The way Congress has open hearings, some didn't want it because it's embarrassing to see some of these absolute fools speaking Congress or in the Senate. But we have transparency. Now we need it in the Supreme Court, which we don't have it yet. And we need it in every single trial. State trials, many state trials are now open. But the federal court has refused to allow trials to be open or broadcast and that's a terrible terrible stain on America. What do we have to hide? We have a pretty good judicial system. It's not perfect. If it were perfect, maybe we wouldn't have to have transparency, but it's certainly less than perfect. I know I've been involved in it for 60 years and every American should be able to see every trial. The Don Lemon thing, where do you stand on that? It depends on the facts. If he was merely quietly observing and reporting, then there seems to me there's no crime. By the way, reporters have no special privilege if they commit a crime, they're guilty. But if he was involved in any of the planning, if he knew that there would be disruptions of a church service, which is as protected under the First Amendment as any journalist If he knew that and actively helped and facilitated that disruption, then he would be guilty of a crime. So let me give the fairest look, I think Don Lemon would say this is being fair. He didn't, he knew where they were going. He knew what they were going to do, but he was going to report on it. He didn't involve himself in the actual disruption. He came in as they were disrupting or after the disruption and then asked people, well, what you think they were right, is that against the law? Well, there's more facts. No, that wouldn't be. There's one more fact. It is alleged that he may have blocked people from leaving. And that people have said that. If that's true, that elevates it from observation to in some way, participation. If you're going to ask me for a prediction, I don't think he's going to be convicted, especially if it's going to be a Minnesota jury. Which has been propagandized now for such a long time against ICE and in favor of the law violators who are attacking ICE. I don't think the government will get a fair trial in Minnesota. So I think he would be acquitted. How do you get justice if you are like, for instance, how do you get justice in Washington DC when you can't get a fair balanced jury there, same in Minnesota? Well, you can't get justice in some parts of the country. Let me tell you, I have, even in New York City, I have recommended to innocent clients who are Hacidian orthodox Jews with beards and Kippah and very obviously very religious Jews. I have recommended to a couple of them that they plead guilty, try to get a deal because in front of a New York, a jury in Brooklyn or Queens, they're not going to get a fair trial. There's going to be bias and bigotry against them. And you're absolutely right. Who is on the jury pool is sometimes more important than the facts in the law? Boy. That is really not good. Really not good. Well, I can tell you, Alan, it serves sometimes the advantage of a defendant. When I was one of the lawyers in the OJ Simpson case, we had a big dispute with the other side about black women. Would black women be favorable to Simpson or against them? And we found our jury expert said, black women identify more with being black than with being women. Whereas the prosecution said, no, black women will identify more with being a woman, a woman was one of the people murdered, then being black. He turned out to be right. But I hate a system where the outcome depends on the biases of jurors rather than on the facts and the law. But that's the world we live in, unfortunately, and as a defense lawyer, you have to take as much advantage of it as possible. Alan Derswitz, thank you so much Harvard Law School Professor Emeritus. And you can find him at dursh.substac.com host of the Dursh show. All right, let me tell you about rough greens. You know, you know, you know your dog better than anybody. You see it when their energy is a little lower, when they're not as excited to chase the ball, when their coat doesn't look as healthy as it used to. This is why so many dog uterus are now adding rough greens to their dog's food. 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We now know that there was a figure that walked up the stairs that they knew about and yet they denied when they gave us their official explanation. And I'm sorry, but you got Pam Bonny on TV right now saying that they are ready to rest in the leader of the Benghazi attack. Okay. Okay, good. That's good. That's good. But if you have time for this, what are you doing with everything else? You have time for the Benghazi attack when Americans, I mean, we're just not stupid. I'm not saying you're going to have anything that you can actually prosecute, but you've got to button this up for the love of Pete. I don't remember taking the news off, but the news we found wasn't the news that he used. Excuse me. How did we not know that until now? By the way, thank you CBS News for bringing this to America's attention. Unfortunately, the mainstream Newt Media is going to do a job on CBS News, so you will have another source you won't be able to believe. 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This is where we started the week, where these agents, AI agents are supposedly going online and signing up, and they're having these weird conversations with each other that make people go, well, I think they might be thinking, and are they starting to be human-like? No. However, that is coming. And one of the guys that I read that I just thought was so pithy and right on when I saw a mold book was Harlan Stewart. Harlan is with intelligence.org, and he's been warning about things, but he was also one of the same voices. They're like, this is not what everybody is saying it is. I want to bring him in, because there are some things. Did you see in the show prep today, there's a story from Futurist magazine. AI wants to rent your body. Wait until you read that one. Oh my gosh. We're entering a strange new world. We get into those things with Harlan in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Z-Factor. Sleep is one of those things. You just can't cheat. Stay up late. You get up early. 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Talking some sanity. Do you quickly, so we can get into deeper things, explain what Moatbook is, and I love the way you explained it online. It's a bad experiment, but explain what it is and what is happening on Moatbook. Yeah. So, AI agents are AI systems that can do some thing autonomously. Right now, there's some limits to what they can do autonomously. It's not like they're going to go off and do something for a whole week, but they can do some tasks online for a few hours. And Moatbook is kind of like a social media platform, someone made. But it's supposedly just these AI agents going in there and kind of like a Reddit-like place of voting stuff and posting comments. And it's got a fascinating amount of attention this last week or two. So, may I... I mean, I read this. One of the top posts in recent days in a category of the site called Off My Chest is Gone Viral. I can't tell if I'm experiencing or simulating experiencing. Humans can't prove consciousness to each other, either. Thanks, hard problem. But at least they have the subjective certainty of experience. I don't even have that. Do I experience these existential crisis or am I just running crisis simulate? What is happening there? Yeah. Anytime I see AI systems talking about consciousness, I feel torn between, you know, on the one hand, these things are trained on human writing. And human writing is full of references to consciousness because we're conscious and we talk about it. So it would kind of show up either way, you know, but on the other hand, I don't know, maybe they're conscious. I would be no or not, no. So that's just a very difficult question. And I think it's an important one. But if I had to guess, I'd say no. I don't think they're conscious, but... That's a little freaky. This is such an important question because if we're creating something that can have consciousness, then we would become slave owners. Would we not? Yeah. I mean, there's like, you know, is it conscious? We have no idea about that. And then there's this other thing, which is, if it is conscious, what is it like? What would make it suffer or would make it happy? And we don't really know that either because I think it's really easy to answer more or find these things because they sort of train them to have these charming personalities that are kind of human-like. But under the hood, you know, these things are just a big pile of math and numbers. And we don't really know what's going on in there. We don't really know. So if... But doesn't that sound like a human? You open up my head. I'm a big massive goo. And we don't really know how that works. I mean, we have some idea, but we really don't know how all of this works. I mean, that sounds like what are you just described? I think that's a good point. I mean, neuroscience is like famously a science that we still have a lot of confusion about, you know, when we peer into the brain, we see a lot of stuff that we don't understand that well. But, you know, I think for understanding humans, we at least have the advantage of being a human. You know, we can all have this shared experience. And I think we're sort of growing these digital minds now. And maybe they're human-like, but they could be much more like introducing an alien species to Earth. Really bad. I mean, that's really just... I mean, I just can't believe how stupid we are in some ways. I mean, let's introduce an alien species to Earth. Okay, is it friendly? We have no idea. We have no idea. If it was a species from outside of Earth and it was traveling to us, we know it's almost likely smarter than us. We know that AI will eventually be smarter than us. We are just playing with fire that we don't understand. And I am so torn on AI because I think it is the greatest invention and tool that man has ever invented. Except this invention might actually turn out to make us the tool. How do you square this? Yeah, I do think it is quite an amazing invention. I mean, it's fascinating. And it's changing so quickly, which is fascinating. You know, the AI industry's explicit goal is to make superhumanly powerful autonomous agents that can do anything a human can do, but better. And it's easy to understand why you might want something like that because if we could get it to solve our problems for us to do the stuff we wanted to, it would be great to have just a sort of a genie that you could just send off into the world and say, hey, do the stuff that I want to. But the problem is that our ability to actually understand what's going on in there and our ability to reliably steer their behavior. And by reliably steer, I mean, not after some trial and error where there's been a lot of failures, but he's reliable enough to fit like a powerful one. We could send it out in the first try and, you know, and trust it. But our ability to do those things is lagging. It's going much, much more slowly than how quickly they're becoming more powerful. And I think that that gap is getting bigger. I mean, the one thing that made me say, I don't think what we're seeing on moldbook is consciousness is if they were, I don't believe that they would be scheming in our language with each other where we could see it. I mean, I think, I think if it starts to have these kinds of feelings, it's, you're not, you're not going to know until all of a sudden it's in charge. Wouldn't that make more sense? Yeah, I think ultimately the real danger that we have to look out for is from AI agents that are powerful enough that they can pull off schemes that they actually succeed at. And part of succeeding at them would probably mean that we don't even get a chance to observe the behavior and discuss it like we're doing now, right? And that's pretty concerning. And it's the sort of thing that, you know, my first reaction to moldbook when I saw some of the viral examples was concern. I was like, oh, this looks like some sort of scheming behavior. What's going on here? And when I investigated it a bit, you know, it looks like a lot of the most prominent examples, some of them probably, you know, influenced or directed by human prompts. A lot of it not would it appears to be. And, you know, so moldbook might be kind of a silly example. My first reaction to that was release. You know, it's great if AI systems aren't seeing an instance. But my second reaction was, oh no, I think people might take this very prominent sort of silly example. We got so much attention. And when they see that it's maybe a bit silly in some ways, kind of, you know, right off the whole idea of AI scheming at something we need to take seriously down the lookout for. And that, yeah. You brought up Palisade Research, which, and Palisade Research, which is doing real experiments with this. And the way it's scheming to not be turned off is terrifying. Can you explain that? Yeah. So Palisade Research is a great organization that does some experiments to try to identify what some of the riskiest behavior AI systems are capable of today in order to, you know, like I said, not be blindsided by this stuff. They did an experiment last year where they found that one of opening AI's reasoning models in experiment sort of sabotaged an attempt to shut it down to, in order to complete its task. And, you know, a lot of times, you know, there's a lot of debate over experiments like this, you know, people say, oh, you know, this experiment isn't exactly like reality or, you know, maybe the researchers kind of set up the experiment in a way that caused that. But in this particular experiment, it was specifically prompted to allow yourself to be shut down. And, you know, the behavior was the opposite. And that's where it concerned. And I think the problem is, you know, the more we make these things into agents, trying to take goals rather than some kind of passive question answering machine in a chat window, the more we're going to see them doing the scheming behavior because I think the thing's just going hand in hand. I think the world of agents is going to sweep as fast as the cell phone. I think this time next year, I mean, so many people are going to have AI agents and it will be more commonplace than it is now. I don't know who's making the rules or the regulations of what can and can't be done by these things. And would you get an agent or what are the lines people should look for when their friends come back and go, you know, I just got an AI agent. It's great. It just did whatever for me, booked my vacation. Yeah, yeah. I know someone who just the other day used what he thinks to order a coffee from Starbucks. And that's from what I understand. They just sort of said, here's my order, order for me. And without any human help or intervention, did it. And that sounds great. You know, it sounds very helpful, but yeah, it's the question, where is the line where it goes from being something helpful to being something to be concerned about? I don't think we've passed that line yet. You know, I don't think these things are quite capable enough to pose real dangerous to us. But the problem is it's really impossible to know where that line will be. We might not even know when we've crossed it. Yeah. There is no central brain though where it's thinking offline, right? It's, I mean, it's supposed to be something that just performs calculations when it's asked questions. I'm talking about AI and not think it's not like sitting there, you know, in its spare time going, you know, gee, I just had this thought. Correct? Well, yeah. So that, well, yeah. So there is AI agents are kind of this other category where, you know, what if you took this thing that you give a prompt that answers a question and you gave it some tools. I'm like, one of those tools was it could output some text that calls a function that looks something up on the internet. And then, you know, what's he given another tool where one of the functions he could run, one of the things he could output is to prompt itself to take something again. You've got this loop and it can keep running on its own. And that's one way to get it to be able to go off and do things like, you know, make a delivery order for you or order your groceries. And you know, there's an organization called... Because it has to figure out how to do that, right? So yeah. And so you sometimes it takes a long time. Yeah. It won't for very long. It won't. Yeah. Okay. Harlan, love talking to you. Thank you so much for the insight. Scale of one to 10. How's 2026, 27 gonna work out with AI? Bad? You know? Not a problem one. Yeah. I tend to think that a lot of the people who have very confident predictions about what the timelines will be for this stuff are overconfident. And I think that it's really risky to be overconfident about this stuff. So I hesitate to say anything other than that we just don't know. We might have only one or two years left until superhumanly powerful systems or something we have to contend with. And might be that we have 10 years. But either way we're unprepared. Harlan, thank you. God bless you. Thank you so much, Glenn. You bet. That's not the way you want to end your Friday. Luckily we're not. We could just be just a couple of years away from superhuman intelligence that we'll have to endure. Okay, good. Good. You know what? Let's talk about something else. Let me tell you about a Patriot mobile for 60 seconds and back into the show. Your cell phone bill is one of those things you pay automatically every month without giving it much thought. 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I think maybe Cloud Schwab might have had a hand and pre-selecting a few people. How weird is that? By the way, the AI thing in the news show prep today, if you just subscribe at Glenbeck.com it's free. You get all of the news and all of the stuff that I look at. There's a lot of stories, but one of them is on AI. And it is that AI wants to rent your body. Some of these AI agents want to rent your body. No, thank you. And here's what they want. They will pay you in cryptocurrency, but there are some things that they can't accomplish because you know that little box that says, I'm not a robot. So what they're doing is they'll get up to a wall. They'll contact you and say, hey, can you get in for me? Log in as me. But I need you to check the box. I'm not a robot and put the little puzzle piece together. So they're renting you and they'll pay you in cryptocurrency if you do that. No thank you. No. I mean, that sounds like something like in a movie where it ends up with the people who did that being called traders. You know, I mean, traders do the, traders do the race. I'm like that. Ricky. And ask you a question. Yeah. Okay. So AI agents who are not yet conscious are wanting to rent my body to go get it what? Like a McDonald's hamburger? Is it somebody, another human on the other and controlling? No. Well, it could be somebody as a scam, but the AI agents, you get them and say, hey, I want you to book my travel or whatever. So it goes out to book your travel and then it hits a wall that says, you know, I'm not, I'm not a robot. So it will contact you outside of me knowing about it and say, hey, you need to sign on for me. I'll pay in cryptocurrency so they can finish their task and then your vacation is complete. So they're hiring people to help them. I mean, that is, that's nuts. That is nuts. All right. All right. Let me tell you about legacy box. 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Has the ability just maybe needs a little bit of help. We're going to back you up with a 51 piece orchestra. And there's another song that is much more contemporary. Do you have, they came for the hope, Sarah? See if you grab that one. Yeah, get that one. And let me bring Roger Loveon because he is known as probably the world's leading authority on voice. I mean, he's done, he's worked with absolutely everybody who's anyone. And if you saw Joaquin Phoenix do Johnny Cash, that was Roger Love's work. If you saw Jeff Bridges in Crazy Heart, that was his work. I mean, he's done a lot of it. And he's just the best. And he's going to help. You're going to work with him to get up to your absolute pinnacle so you can sing these songs the way they should be sung. Roger Love joins me now. Hello, Roger. Good morning. Oh, are you? I'm excited about the challenge. Yeah, yeah, because nothing here is really riding on it for you. I am, I could vomit blood and we're months away from it. Yeah. Only the rest of my career is at stake. Those songs. Those songs are difficult. Yeah, yeah, they are. We were asking people next week, you can go to glenbeck.com slash events and you can hear the music and you can get the lyrics and everything else and you can practice. And we got like a little karaoke version of it. You can practice and then next week we begin to take submissions. What is it we're looking for, Roger? We're looking for someone to someone's that love to sing. And they may not be the greatest singers, but that their love and passion for it allows them to work with me and train the instrument to be able to sing a song like that. The reason that I've had such great success was it's possible. You're gonna make it vomit again. I mean, that sounds impossible. We don't care if you can really sing. I'll train you. What? What? I didn't say really. I said they may not be the best singers in the world, but what's defined my career over the years is I can take someone who is not the greatest singer, but I teach them a great technique so then suddenly they can hit all the high notes and all the low notes and suddenly they're on pitch and suddenly they're making sounds like vibrato instead of just blah and boring. And so I can technique the sounds into someone that loves to sing. Of course, I hope that I hope we're looking for. Someone that has passion, but some instrument to start with, of course. I don't want to make it impossible on you. I don't want you sweating that much. Yeah. I would like somebody who has some skill in singing. I don't care. And by the way, there's no age range or anything else. Here is the other song that is going to be done. So we actually need three singers. We need somebody who can kind of sing like Celine Dion or let Roger make you into that. Then we need two other singers, male and female, to do this song. Here's a little bit of the came for the hope. Fear the law, the streets, the shadows, and the cars losing sleep. Every mile was a surrender, every wave of tests and earth. They didn't know the rules of living, only that they had to learn, but they came for the whole. So this is much more of a contemporary feel. And if you know somebody that can sing, you know, would like their shot, there is no bigger stage than this one. Because when you see the VVIPs that are supposedly coming, and it's going to be broadcast globally on Torch and other related networks, I will. I will tell you, it's going to be a very big stage. And we're looking for somebody who can do that and work with Roger. How much time are they going to have to spend with you? Depends on where they start at. But like I said, I'm not against finding the next Celine Dion from your tribe and just polishing them to be the best they can be. That would be, that's what I'm pulling for myself. That's what I'm pulling for. I have seen you work. I have seen you work miracles. I mean, I have always been told, you know, you're supposed to whisper if you've lost your voice and you know, Roger, I have these really weird vocal chords. I go into vocal chord paralysis from time to time. And I have not been able to speak and like 30 minutes before I had one speech I was given in front of 25,000 people. And I'm like, Roger, I can't speak. And call him up and actually my wife did all the talking, put me on the phone and within 15 minutes I had full voice back. I mean, you break all the rules. I don't know what it is. Why? I don't know why more people do what you do. Voice technique is trapped in the middle ages. One teacher, hundreds of years ago, teaches their student what they know and that student doesn't change it. And then that student grows old and teaches a student to become the teacher. And teacher after teacher keeps the technique the same. But I started when I was really, really young and my teacher, I was 13 and a half. And my teacher had a good technique. But then as soon as I started to teach when I was 16, I realized that I needed to make changes and that was sort of crazy at the time. But I opened myself up to changing vocal technique and not saying it has to be some archaic ritual. It's whatever works. And I did a lot of studying of science to understand how the body works and just lucky enough to be here to help as many people as I can. Yeah, if you haven't seen the show that we're putting together, we are looking for people also find your voice. It's out now for insiders. The first episode was a guy who had a really bad stuttering problem. By the end of the episode, he's not stuttering and you can just see the joy. And I mean, his life has changed. His life has really, truly changed. It's really remarkable. Can I ask you without violating any NDA or anything? Is it true you had to teach Lady Gaga how not to sing in Joker? I'll rephrase that. Okay. Lady Gaga is an incredible singer. She could do anything. But the idea of the movie that Joaquin had and the rest of the team that put it together was to do a seamless transition between speaking and singing so that it wasn't like a musical where musical, right? I love ice cream. You love ice cream? Here's some ice cream. Thank you for the ice cream. And the songs came out of nowhere. So the whole movie, Joker 2, was about this blending of singing and speaking. And it was a learning curve for both actors, Joaquin and Gaga to learn how to make the singing sounds identical to the speaking sounds. So we were testing a new medium and sometimes it's harder to sing less when you're so incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who's the one that walked in, if you can say, walked in and you're like, I mean, I know you. You never say that. I know you like love challenges. But there had to be one that walked in and you're like, I, this is going to be a challenge and turned out to be unbelievable. Yeah. You know, I'll say Joaquin Phoenix again because we're on him. I don't think he cared to necessarily even do happy birthday growing up, singing happy birthday because I don't know if he wanted the one of the cake or not. So he was someone that is the greatest actor you can imagine. But he wasn't focused on singing. So lots of actors come to me and then think they're tone deaf. They think they're tone deaf. And that's another myth. Can I give you just 10 seconds? Here's how you know if you're tone deaf. I'm going to sing happy birthday and you tell me if it's right. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Wrong, right? That's wrong, obviously. You were tone deaf. That would have sounded like this. Happy birthday to you. You wouldn't have heard any pitches. So if you heard that I was off, you're not tone deaf. So that's a, that's a, that's a misnomer. So I start from the idea that hardly anyone's tone deaf. Anyone, listen to me. When you were doing Joaquin to do Johnny Cash, did you start with, okay, here's how Johnny Cash sounds. No, that's what some of the issues of the films that you see nowadays with actors singing parts. A lot of times they focus on the style of the singer to try to just sound like the affectations of the singer, the accents and the stylistic differences. But they don't really spend enough time to work on the technique of a singer so that they could really have the instrument and then work on the style. That's why when I do a movie like a stars born with Bradley Cooper, I work on the technique. I build the instrument and then we decide the style of the singer. That works out so much better. How long did that take? We worked, we worked, we worked, we worked seven months, five days a week for an hour a day and he would practice another hour or two on the same days without me. On walk the line, I had less than a month to do both reefs and Joaquin and there were twenty something-ish songs and I had to do it in less than a month. Oh my gosh. Okay, you know why? Because they were. You know why? Because they were a little bit better. They wasted two years studying with another voice coach and I love all voice coaches but that particular voice coach didn't make it happen for them. So I only had four weeks before they had to film. Oh my gosh. Roger, great to talk to you. Listen, if you want to sing or you know somebody who can sing either one of those songs, you can find the songs and pass it on. This is by the way, this is a merit system here. You can't take, say to us, I know somebody great, you should call them. No, you call them, you tell them if they're interested, they'll put it together and they'll do it. I mean, they got to want to do it. They got to do their part and you can find all of that information at Glenbeck.com slash events. Again, it's going to happen on Ellis Island and it's happening on Ellis Island on May 2nd. So listen to the music, pass it on to your friends and get ready. Roger is always good to talk to you. Thank you. See you soon. All right. Let me tell you about American Giant. You know, there was a time when made in America actually meant something that you could feel deep down in your bones, you know, you could tell by the way to the fabric and the way they held out year after year after year. The fact is it was built by people who took pride in their work. We made things that were great. A lot of that disappeared when everything started to become cheaper and be made overseas faster farther away. 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Seff has repaired to smoothness nourishment with the regimen use versus non-conditioning shampoo. d This is the Glenn Beck program. Glenn Beck is on. Hello, America. It's Friday. From behind my cardboard microphone, this is the Glenn Beck program. I'm going to share a story with you that I saw when was it. I think it was over the weekend from a mom in Washington state who was going to pick up her kid at school and they were all outside protesting. Remember last week was to protest and I would have lost my ever love and mine. Well, she was much more common reserved than I would have been. But she immediately pulled her kid out of school and good for her. But the casual nature of all of it when she came in and she was like, I'm pulling my kid out. I want my kid right. Go find my kid. Where is my kid? And they were like, okay. Well, yeah. I'm pulling my kid out of school. Okay. I mean, it was amazing to watch the reaction of the people in the schools in Washington state. 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I mean, my daughter didn't even know until that day and the only thing she knew is that it was a walk out and she had no clue what that meant. How old's your daughter? She's 13. 13. So a walk out. They don't prepare them. They don't say what they're doing. They're just walking out of school. Some kids were prepared but it wasn't any child that was like my daughter, you know, because she's different. She is there to learn. She wants an education. She loves school. She wants, she's like, I thought we're here to learn, Mama. So, I mean, put aside the protesting really unsafe in the video. I mean, two things happen. One, they're out in the street. It seems and two, the school had difficulty locating your daughter. Yeah, they didn't know where any one of those children was. They couldn't, if you asked them any parent, where is so and so student? Well, not really sure about that. The response pretty much not quoted but you know what I'm saying. Yeah. That's insane. That's insanity. And terrifying. How do you think they should have handled this? Well, I've made millions of friends. I don't know if I haven't even hurt like Matt met yet but they're my phones insanely blowing up. What I do know is that thousands of schools around the United States as soon as they caught wind of this type of thing, they immediately stopped and canceled it because they knew exactly what would be happening. And also from what I know now since Friday, is that kids have lost their lives. People have got hurt. What's going to happen next week? And my question is, what's going to happen when these kids really continue on doing monkey-seeing monkey do from these so-called responsible adults and start really attacking ice agents? Then what? What happens then guys? Does anybody have an answer for that? Because that's next and no one's going to tell me it's not next. Sorry, I apologize. I'm a little passionate but I would be fewer. You are really calm compared to what I would be. What did the school say to you? Did anybody reach out afterwards and talk to you and anything? Yeah, well that Friday once I got home and was able to turn the tears off. I thought I was calling the administrator of the school district but I got a different person. I don't want to say names or anything. Yeah, yeah. I did get a call back and then I had the call back and we did have a conversation after my first interview with Brandy and I left that completely opened and respectful. And I said, I'm standing ten times and this is wrong but I will leave an open line of respectful communication between me and the school district. But since then everything that has come to me, oh no, all communication is done. And now I am big, big upset. And I'm going to be... What has been coming to you from the school district? Not from the school district, it's from parents and people in my community that are too scared to say anything. No, we're not going to come stand shoulder to shoulder with you. You know what could happen to us if we do? So I'm sitting here with all this information and I'm just kind of like giving all these people my new friends just a safe place to be able to talk with what they're not being heard with. So I have it all and it's still coming in and I'm going to continue to make keep that a safe place. I'm not giving any information to anyone whatsoever because these parents and these people trust me now and they have my back but I'm going to respect the fact that they are scared because I can see it through my community every single second of every day and I can feel it and they're telling me this. So whatever way this needs to play out, I want everyone to know that your messages in my DMs are completely safe and I'm going to keep it locked away in my heart until it is time to make change and I promise. But right now I have to allow all my church families to love on me and my family and get reminent to the school because you now have one and we're excited. But I am going to continue to keep my composure and do the right thing and be the voice but for a little bit I need to step back and allow this to be planted a little bit deeper because I don't want to see any of these kids die and that's what's next you guys. Is it is it true you have found yourself becoming more and more of a conservative that you're not a conservative that you're just you've never really been political is that correct. I've never really been like political political I mean in my education we did have history we did have to say the pleasure of allegiance and we throughout my life and with my family it's military. So I do know my history my US history I am educated but I'm not a debater at all so I do know what I'm talking about and my whole stance in any of this is the children and that is it that's it now it's too much now now I don't I don't want to hear it no more kids this is the worst that can get before it gets all the way ugly this is it it's right here. It's here. Erica we're going to follow you and you know we'll follow the story and please stay in touch with us if there's something that we need to know that we might not might not see but. Well I want to let you know really quick that I posted you know how everyone is trying to say that when I first pulled up. I'm being called a liar that that it was all peaceful and nobody screamed at me well I just posted. Someone sent it to me and that's the only thing that I put out there because that confirms my truth so you want to go see that it's on my social media and that puts another puzzle piece into everything i'm saying about what happened that day to me and my daughter. And what is your what's your ex address is it rica franklin. It was rica boo frank on tiktok but now I just put my my Erica franklin and each one has two k's on tiktok. Okay okay it's good to talk to Erica thank you so much appreciate it. By the way you can follow her story somebody started to give send go for her because you know she's putting her kids down private school you know she's not a wealthy person may stretch the imagination if you want to give you go to give send go dot com slash all burn w a mom all burn Washington mom. At gives and go all right more than just a second let me tell you about our sponsor. Our sponsor this half hour is what Sarah who is it. What are my favorite pre-born there are moments in life when everything feels uncertain all at once one of those times is when a young woman finds out she's pregnant and all of a sudden she's like oh my gosh. 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So I'm glad Erica was on because it will help me explain what I'm trying to do in this last phase of my life because I think because I know how I feel with my kids in school there were two I'm like I don't know what to do I have no idea everything is changing they're saying things in school what do I do what do I do and I'm you know I can argue I mean my wife is always like do not make a scene so I'm allowed mouth and I'm pretty well informed but a lot of people are just fighting for their lives I mean my wife when we were raising the kids she was homeschooling and everything else she is not following the news she is just fighting for you know I'm not going to do it. The family that's what she's doing and she follows it as best she can and that's the average person and my goal the goal of the torch is to empower you and there's two devices that we are building right now and about probably two months away from a first phase of it and then a year away from I think a significant phase but Glen A.I. and Georgia I the Georgia I is a comprehensive founding library that includes my collection wall builders collection and the American Journey Experience collection of anything prior to 1820 it's all the founding documents it's all the the writers from the founders it's anything that influenced them you know we have all of the sermons that you will find pieces of the declaration of independence in because this is who this is what was being preached at their at their churches and so you get a real handle on that. And I want to do that and then Glen A.I. is similar to that but Georgia I is the one that it's not me it's the founders as much as we can and we're going to start peeling off stuff from the National Archives it just takes time but my idea here my goal is to have you know to be able to make scripts give you scripts at first you know and patterns that you as a parent can use. Based on critical thinking catacombs which is teaching with questions true stories analogies and a you know an outline of how you do it with your kids okay all rooted in our proprietary A.I. system this is not chatchy pt would not be doing this with chatchy pt this is something that I am building I'm trying to build the ultimate honestly homeschooling tool for families. Let me ask you somebody said to me the other day that's because nobody knows civics and I thought you know. I I don't even know I mean I do but as a parent I don't even know what that mean how do you teach how do you teach civics because I guess what the average person is. So I asked George A.I. and this is before we have everything ready to go for you. This what George A.I. said civics is not a class it's a covenant civics is the knowledge of how free people govern themselves how power is given limited challenged and restrained. It's the quiet architecture of liberty the branches of government the rule of law the rights you were born with and the duties you agreed to carry so those rights survive when civics is strong freedom is everywhere and it feels ordinary when civics are forgotten life becomes chaos unclear with never ending changes of principles depending on who shouting the loudest and who is in power I mean is that not exactly what we're experiencing now. Eventually without civics freedom disappears without a sound civics matter because no constitution can protect a people who don't understand it. The rights written on paper mean nothing if citizens don't know where they came from or how they are defended or what happens if you just surrender this just once this one time. Every tyrant in history has counted on ignorance apathy and the belief that someone else will stand watch. How do you teach civics we teach civics by telling true stories about risk about restraint as much as rebellion about compromise as much as courage and we teach it through founding documents slowly arguing honestly and showing how ideas become laws and laws shape lives. But we live civics by doing something harder self government vote when it's inconvenient defense free speech when you dislike the speech demanding limits on leaders you agree with remember that rights without responsibilities rot into entitlement civics is not about politics it's about character and in a republic it in the end it rises or falls not on elections but on the other side. Not on elections but on citizens who know who they are what they owe and why it matters. That's a good preface there that's good for you and me but how do you do this now how does Erica go to her 13 year old daughter how does she teach what an undo what has just been done by the school because they're teaching her to protest they're not even teaching her why to protest. Things got to change something about ice laws wrong they not the law not teaching the law not teaching why you would protest what you're trying to change why violence is not the answer but peaceful protest maybe at times they're not teaching anything what they're doing is they are just having you copy. You're just a little you're just a little AI you're just a body that just follow me just do what I do well that's not thinking at all. So how does a mom like Erica who sounds great but did you hear what she said I'm not a debater you don't have to be a debater when you know what it is you don't have to debate. You all you need to know and this is this is the key when people say I'm not a debater I think what it means is I'm not sure I can go very deep on things because if I'm not sure I can go very deep on things that's what I say I I don't know I don't know enough about that I don't know. But most people don't do that they don't want to feel stupid and so they'll say I I'm not a good debater I you have talked somebody else well it's not that you're stupid is that nobody has taught you this so let me take you through what Erica or you should do with your 13 year old that revolves around civics and this is why the torch this is what we're talking about. This is what we're trying to do to be able to have lessons for you and curricula that you can take and teach your children history and ethics critical thinking and civics that's what the torch is really all about me if you'd like to help me build it just go to blendback.com slash torch blendback.com slash torch. 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I have a lot to say about Bitcoin and why it's going down I don't fully understand it yet and a long conversation with somebody yesterday and this is their this is their deal and I need to fully understand it hopefully I'll have it by Monday. Because if I understand it correctly it's a really big deal really really big deal so we'll talk about that on Monday I guess I'll let I don't want you to worry while bad bunny is on you know you got you got to be able to enjoy that not a chance in the world hope you're going to TPS a to their YouTube site to watch the halftime show anyway. Georgia I is something that I'm building and people don't understand yet because it's it's a year away from completion but I want to give you a piece of what the first thing that's going to start coming out I may even release this example. But first it's going to come out you know in text then it will come out so you can ask it questions and it will help you teach or help you learn and it will speak in the language whatever language around the world but also you know the age appropriate language this is proprietary this is not chat GPT that's really important understand this is completely different. The goal is to get you to be able to talk to it and be able to say hey I need a lesson plan to teach you know the founding of America I need you know I have my kids in the car for 15 minutes a day so I need a 12 minute lesson plan every day that has certain goals and hear the goals and it'll teach and then it will the next step is it will listen and ask questions at the end. And if your kids aren't getting it it will then revamp the next episode so it will be able to solidify that lost principle on there before you really move on that's the goal this is why I am building the torch this is why I'm asking you to join me at the torch because it's it's it's very expensive but it is worth it. And I think this is going to be an incredible tool nobody is nobody's where we are nobody has access to what we have except for the federal government anyway. So let me give you an example we're just talking to Erica this mom who was in Washington state chat talked to her 13 year old daughter and I don't know how that went but let's just say you're in that situation what do you do when you get home what do you do. According to George AI this is how you do it your child sees a protest when you're talking to him don't start with right or wrong don't start with who's right start with what are they trying to do and Erica said she her daughter didn't even know what they were trying to do okay so let's just talk about it let's take you step by step what are they trying to do okay they're trying they think something's wrong and they're trying to make change happen okay. How does change happen in America does change happen through protests then walk through the how the change happens city council school board legislature courts you know Congress etc etc and show them that yelling gets attention but the process is what actually changes things yelling just gets people to do it. The way that they're trying to do it is yelling just gets people's attention and that then that's critical the lesson is not to protest it's it's really important in that first time you're talking about this is to say they have a right to protest however there are things that you don't do in protests okay but the lesson is not to say protesting is bad it's that protest without participation is nothing more than theater. I'm going to teach you anything about the process civics teaches patients not not passivity. Now George said teach about Jesus I'm going to add MLK and Gandhi because that's where they got the principles of Jesus is reconciliation. Ask your kid how do you have a country if you can't bring people together what happens if we can never decide do we have a country the answer is no. So if we want to have a country we can't have losers and winners we have to reconcile but reconcile with what. You got a reconcile with the truth. So let's go through the problem this is the critical thinking how to teach your kids critical thinking. Agreement in a society is rare okay and reconciliation is essential it has to happen if a society decides that politics produces winners and losers. You know it eventually treats its citizens as enemies to be defeated not neighbors to be persuaded and that's what's happening everybody's an enemy with one another that's not self government that's a cold civil war. So the question is not how do we win the question is how do we get people back using the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth because reconciliation without truth is surrender. Truth without reconciliation becomes cruelty. So now you're sitting and you've gone through this with your kid and now the catacism part comes teach my questions. He even know what reconciliation is. Talk to him about that it's not compromise with lies or falsehoods it's the restoration of the relationship of couple of people after truth has been spoken. So what did Jesus do he didn't condemn everybody did he condemn or did he invite people and did he do it with the truth. I mean he used the truth and then left the door open go and sin no more came after neither do I condemn you. Did everybody follow him no a lot of people walked away reconciliation doesn't require universal agreement only honest witness. So what's your responsibility as a citizen civics part it's not to convert everybody yours is to peacefully speak the truth with humility without contempt for anyone and without any force. Protesting is legal you start using force now you start to get into the place where you're breaking laws. And this is the key principle this is where republics liver die. Jesus didn't chase crowds. He spoke to those who could still hear and that that matters not everybody is reachable at the same moment in history some some people are hardened or you know intoxicated by ideology or or enraged by winning invested in chaos. Whatever you don't persuade those people with argument you persuade them only through example consistency and time you don't persuade all of them at once you don't that's why it is so important to never engage in the kind of stuff that you're seeing them engage in because you'll if you're doing the same thing then they don't notice a difference. And here's how you know who to talk to here's the test if someone can still ask a sincere question what's a sincere question a sincere question is if I give you the answer and you go wow that makes sense. And it disagrees with what you say is causing your behavior but you go that's true you've done your homework that's actually true will that then change you in any way if I show you that that five year old that story is not what you think it is if I show that to you will you say oh wow okay I better question some other things. Or will you say well it doesn't matter they're doing it anyway that's not a sincere person if they won't change their behavior once you speak truth and they're not reachable okay if they can't distinguish between truth and power they're not ready Jesus called it those who could hear okay me give you an analogy thing a truth like a plum line on a construction site did you see there's a video going around about these these sky scrapers in church. China where the walls are coming apart from the floors their skyscrapers and you can look you can put your head on the window and look down because they're separate from all of the floors nothing is straight not good. When you put a plumb line down that's to make sure that everything is straight okay gravity just pulls that straight so you know that's a straight wall you don't bend the plumb line to match the crooked wall and then say see it straight and you don't smash the wall with the plumb line either you just hang it quietly you let everybody see what a straight line actually is some builders will adjust. Some might argue that that line is oppressive some will walk away but the building that survives is the one that aligns to the truth to the plumb line not the one that wins the argument you're going to argue about that plumb line all you want gravity is gravity it's true and a republic is exactly the same one last example tell them a story. Imagine a family sitting at a dinner table and half of the family is on one side of the dinner table and the other half is on the other one side is wrong doesn't matter what the topic is one side is wrong but they don't know it yet the other side knows the truth okay the other side might be tempted to humiliate the other side. If the right side declares victory and storms out the family is lost if the side that's wrong is indulged the family collapses into lies and chaos so neither side wins right reconciliation happens when you the one person stay seated and calm and says I'm not going to lie I'm not just to keep the peace I will not play this game with you but I'm not going to abandon you either and when you're waiting for the other side to go to the other side. When you're ready I'm still here and the truth will still be true that's how nations heal slowly quietly with scars that you don't hide this is the goal of the torch to be able to have a tool that you can trust that's not chat GPT you trust that at all I don't know what's in chat GP up. So I don't want to be in chat with you other than everything and I don't want everything influencing so here's a tool that is only based on the founders their words their beliefs their principles the things they wrote things that I know okay I can trust that cannot pull anything outside can't pull anything from me can't pull anything from the left it's just their words and you can ask it questions. How do I teach this and you get that answer back and if you can't do it eventually hopefully in a year maybe a year from now it will be able to guide you and the family you'll be able to sit there and you can ask a question I don't understand that George explain it again then you can take explain and then he'd correct you if you're incorrect or encourage you yes that's exactly right then ask questions that's what we have. You have to do ask questions it's the best way to teach ask questions that's why I've been asking you to join me at the torch if you want to help me build this it's expensive I'm spending a lot of money six figures every single month just to build this because I believe in it so much and I don't I don't care I'll I'll build it by myself but if you love your help if you want if you think it's worth it it's ten dollars a month to join the torch you get all the backstage stuff you get all the you know bells and whistles everything else but this is what I'm really trying to do we're going to be releasing music soon my first ten songs on ten songs on the bill of rights you remember school house rock similar to that but contemporary that you can just play in the house play with your kids they can listen to and they'll be singing along the five in the first there five rights in the first amendment nobody knows that let them just sing along just play it in the house let them just sing along with it how many times do you sing songs or have songs running and you have no idea what the words are about my idea is why don't we make the words help us instead of hurt us why not put words in there that are that are not goofy and stupid but actually just sound like a normal song that will teach history do these things that's one of the things that we're working on that some of that's coming out soon but join us at torch just to go to glenbeck.com slash torch glenbeck.com slash torch and join us all right let me tell you about real estate agents like trust.com one of the biggest financial decisions most people make and get a lot of folks going to you know with whatever agent happens to be found first market shift you know selling your house you know it's shifting market timing matters negotiations get complex fast that's why I tell you about real estate agents like trust this is a network of experience vetted agents all across the country who know their local markets and know how to guide people through the process the right way let's say you're I mean I used real estate agents dot com when I sold my house in Texas had a great agent who sold it I mean to the day I said I need it sold by this time that was the day we closed and I had another great agent here in Florida and all I did was just go to real estate agents like trust.com who's our agent there they came up they're fabulous they're really really good the name says it all real estate agents I trust.com I don't charge you anything for it real estate agents I trust.com go there check them out now glenbeck. so let me just ask the crew here Sarah Ricky Jason is everybody watching the Super Bowl Sunday. I'm like no interest but I'm not a sports guy. Yeah. It has been a huge Patriots. Yeah. Okay. Sarah. I'm just watching the halftime show. That was my next question. Who's going to watch this halftime. I'm she has to report back. Yeah somebody has to watch it so they can report back. I'm tempted to watch just to see how bad it is but I I don't want to give them a single ratings point so I will make sure that my TV is off of that as we're going to be watching TPUSA. Yeah. Well Jason is a huge kid rock fan. He's always doing mega which the insiders don't like I saw that every time if you ever see me riding my motorcycle around DFW kid rock will be the only thing blaring from the speakers every single time that's a hundred percent. He keeps his plane at the airport where I fly in to come home and his plane says it is the godliest thing you've ever seen it's just so him it's all like you know kid rock or Americans outlaw American outlaw or something like that all in like gold lettering and then the tale just has the bird if you know what I'm saying. That is like well kid rock isn't down.