If you want to listen to this episode or any of our episodes, add free. You can do that now. Head on over to Patreon, click on the ad free level. You get all of our bonus shows that you've been hearing so much about plus every single day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. You can listen to this episode or any of our other episodes at the same time, ad free over on Patreon. Hey everyone, this is David. Welcome back to Velvet Rope. I have bad lighting again today, but we're here with Sarah Furasia. Why do you have bad lighting? No, it's weird. I'm looking weird today. No, you're great. Oh my God, you look like you're living life in New York. You're in New York. Why don't you come back to LA by the way? Because I'm ready. Now I've had my beautiful daughter. People are tired of hearing about it. I see in the comments. We know you have a daughter. Oh, by the way, I guess I need to post this right away. Are we announcing our live show? You said, let's do it. Yes, 110 percent. Let's go. Let's go. Okay, everybody. You ready? I don't know what day this is airing for you, but the tickets will be on sale. We have a live show. Sarah sent me a graphic here on May 28th. 2026. May 28th, you guys. Your video. Two months from now, you've been asked. This is they've been asking. Ask us anything. Someone the other day, because I said, like, I'm going to poke my fucking eyes out if I have to watch Kim D be back on a real housewives synergy. I don't think she's coming back. I'm starting to think that was wrong, but someone's like, can you explain the origin of your feud with Kim D? I'm like, guess what? We're going to have a live show on May 28th, 2026. Tickets are for sale. The links are in our bio. DM, you guys always DM. Just DM me. DM Sarah will send you the links. It sells out and it's ask us anything. So go ask that at that show. I fortunately cannot type on YouTube a 13 page response to this as much as I want to. So this is it, right? Sarah, ask us anything. What was the second name you were going to name your daughter? If she wasn't Harper, what was the second choice? Oh, what a good question. I think I'm going to ask you that one that day. Oh, all right. I got, I have an answer for that. And my daughter will be making an appearance 100%. I know some of you are over it. We know. Here's, here's my question for today. Would you have named your, did you know you were having a girl? That's the first question. I'll answer this at the show. Go on. And if you had a son per my, I love unisex names. Would you have named your son Harper? What a good question. A boy named Harper could work very, very, very workable. Good work. Could work. I, my son goes to school with a boy named Noel. There you go. There you go. Keep the name. Very in to call to yes. What was it? Like gender fluid name now? I don't know. What do you say? Anyway, I love people. We have a lot to answer. By the way, do you think your old friend Margaret Joseph's now that she, she's looking for a job. Do you think she might pop on the, the zoom on the 28th just to say hi to everybody and I don't know, maybe she could explain your feud. Like any, any chance should I reach out to Margaret Joseph's? The Saatch. I would say the chance of Margaret Joseph's and there's a new message for her by the way, from Miss Melissa Gorgon. I would say, you know, I did a show. It's called Margaret Joseph's open parentheses termination question. Mark closed parentheses exit because she exited. I mean, does anyone believe that she's been talking to Andy since December figuring out if the future at our age, O and J was right for her. So, um, you are really, you're like patrician pole with your room was colored glasses here today. I, uh, I think Margaret might come on your podcast and have a lovely chat with you if you don't remind her you speak to me. I don't know if she'll come on our live show. You might have to get a different guest than that one. I might surprise you with somebody. I feel like, I don't know. Okay, look, I know you have full shows for us over the next couple of days, but, and I know you've already talked about and you had predicted March the Saatch wasn't coming back and I know you've already done shows on this. Okay, but, um, what, you know, what's your hot take? Basically, you don't think she had any calls with the idea is I think what you're saying. You think they candor. She knew that was coming and this is a, this is a typical housewives move. Before I'm fired, I'm going to just announce my exit. I did a whole patron on this. And by the way, Margaret, it's not your fault. You are joining the ranks of Kim D. Jacqueline Loretta, Kathy, Wachilly, um, Carolyn Manzo. You got caught up in the feud between Melissa and Teresa. It's not your fault, lady. You did eight years. You will be known as one of the greats. Um, Andy says, no, thank you. Cause she said, thank you, NBC. She said, he said, what a ride. Also, I love your house and taste always and forever. Melissa Gorg has a new message post RHO and J for Marge. Since you bring up Marge. Marge, you are one of the good ones. Miss Melissa Gorg says you are, you, oh, your one can't read my handwriting, your one liners were my favorite part of the show. I completely understand this decision and your next chapter. So Melissa Gorg or her best friend is doubling down. She understands, I understand it's me, Melissa. I understand Margaret, your decision and your next chapter of your life will be a fantastic one and I can't wait to see what's next in store for you. So Melissa's pretending, trying to add some, you know, her post RHO and J message for Margaret is, I understand why you decided to resign. Now, there's no world in which we live that you will ever convince me that Margaret Joseph resigned from New Jersey. It's nothing personal. She is truly one of the greats. It was a great run girl. You're in good company. They all pretend they left on their own. Katie Janella, Katie Janella and like Darynda Medley are the two people I can think of that actually admitted that they got fired. I think, yeah, I think that's all I, yeah, that's it. Katie Janella, I really wish I was going back. Great. I did a whole scenario. Thanks for your truth. Yeah. I did a whole scenario on my Patreon where I pretended to be Andy with speaking slow and the powerhouse and pigtails and just exactly how this call went. So. Need anything from Tesco like Tesco finest salted pretzel or caramelized biscuit chocolate Easter eggs. 12 pounds each with your Tesco Club card or Tesco finest extra fruity hot cross buns. Two packs for just three pounds because every little helps selected hot cross buns majority of larger stores and online and 6th of April Club card or app required exclusion supply. 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Noom micro changes big results. Noom GLP one RX program involves healthy diet exercise and support. Individual results vary. Meds and personalization based on clinical need not reviewed by FDA for safety, efficacy or quality not available in all 50 states. There you go. Okay, can you give us a little insight though? I mean you and the Saaj and we'll get into this more in the live show. But do you think the Saaj that this is very upsetting to her? You know, I mean, we know Darinda has never gotten over it. Darinda bought her own ticket much like a Teddy Mellon camp, which genius Teddy to Bravo con years ago went up and asked a question about when Andy was going to bring her back. I mean, do you think the Saaj is in New Jersey plotting a return? Do you think she's because she really has portrayed herself over the past couple of weeks? I'm moving on. It's more about my mental health and my family and Joe. Do you think that or do you think she is super upset? Like this is devastating. I mean, listen, we've been talking here for a year that she wasn't coming back. She couldn't with Teresa there. Look, I don't think Margaret is the club. There's Housewives way more less intelligent than her. She's a smart woman. She knew she knew she is on that new show. She is on that new show. What's the new show? She's on that new show, which is spinning off on Amazon. Oh, the girls trip, the road trip. Yeah. She's filming that right. I believe right now when she did that video, it's, you know, it's not the same as being a cast member for years and years and years. She'll be on for one season, but believe it or not, I feel that Margaret is more like I don't think she's going to be like Alexia Marisol for 10 years trying to get back on the TV, you know, Sonia. I do think Margaret has something to fall back on. I don't really believe soiree and the licensing business is booming, but I know I actually think Margaret really shockingly enough isn't like a fame war and understands like that was a great time in my, see, I'm being very kind to her, but this is my real pin. I think she gets that like that was a great time in my life. It's an eight year thing. Just like when I was married to this guy, college, high school, living on my own when Margaret senior would come home drunk at night and pass out on the floor. Like I think she's able to say that was a great period. I did it. What a wonderful opportunity. And now we're on to the next. I actually really believe that about Margaret. So I don't think she's good. That's a good thing. Okay. Well, that's great. What a positive note. That's great because I think, yeah, she ain't going to be Vicki Vicki. Vicki couldn't get it. She couldn't do it. Vicki, she couldn't do it. She could not get over it. The therapy didn't work. She couldn't do it. She admits she couldn't do it. Neenie, she's not over it. She can't get over it. I don't think Margaret's that. Nope, I don't. I truly don't think she can do it. I mean, I don't think Margaret's that person. I think she's over it. Yeah. All right. I'm kind of all over the place because you bring up topics, but does anyone know if Kodo insurance has been sold? No. I mean, if we're going to look into that, let's look into see if there's any offers on TomTom. Vandruff Pump put up TomTom and Sir, and you could buy the Intellectual Property Rights. Where's Peter Madrigal? Is Peter going to put it in offer? Pete, Peter knows that corner so well. He should. Peter ought to be, Peter ought to do it there at the pirate. He absolutely should do it. He would be great at those companies. Can I just tell you something? Did you see this? It's always funny when someone's like texts are exposed. Never put something in writing. You know, certain strikes private texts are exposed by the one, the only Amanda Francis. Did you see this? People vary. They can't get over why Amanda is filming that, that after show all by herself. And this means she's going to be fired. It doesn't. I'm back to, by the way, I think everyone's being fired. Can I tell you this except Kyle and Erica and Rachel? Oh yeah, I have a new theory here. This is a new theory in the past. We've spoken. What do you mean? Here we go. So a lot of this, could we talk about Sutton's things first though? Yeah, talk about the texts and then I need to hear this theory. Go on. Amanda would like everyone to know that she's going to show some texts from Sutton and stop asking why she's filming the show, the after show alone. Not everything is a scandal, you guys. Get over it. Amanda, she's pretty good at the clapbacks and a Sutton's flight was canceled. And that is why Amanda had to film this alone. But now she's exposing the private texts from Sutton, which really go back and forth. Like, I'm so sorry. Sutton's like, oh, jeep blue. Fuck you with this $12 airline credit. It's not that exciting, but Sutton's texts were revealed. And we could read them here, but believe it or not, they're really boring. Amanda's like, get home safe, sis. So, but I mean, I don't know if Sutton's thrilled that you revealed her private texts. I mean, they didn't say anything, but girl Sutton, Satine. Yeah, don't do that to our Satine. Why? What was the point of this? Of revealing the text, I guess just to prove, you know, I'm not filming the after show alone for it because I'm going to be fired like everyone says. I'm, you know, doing it alone because Sutton's fight was canceled. I don't know. I guess Amanda thinks Amanda's good with the receipt. So I guess she's revealing the text to show receipt. She also did something. She woke up in the middle of the night the other night. You guys are just absolutely ridiculous. You, you, you, you people, I guess she was wearing a dress and someone's like, I forgot who else was wearing it. I think it was Vicki. It's like who wore it best? What are they at her housewives? But someone that doesn't have money and she's like, you guys, I can't believe I'm doing this. I can't believe I'm Amanda Francis. She says she made $40 million from her courses. I made $40 million from my courses and yet I'm doing this because people were saying, girl, that ain't Dolce. That's like each of them. And she's like, okay, let me go to the closet. Here you go. She opens it up. You see this? She shows us the label. This is the top. If everyone can see the label, it says Dolce and Gabbana. Hold on, hold on. I can't believe I'm doing this. My husband's sleeping. The kids are sleeping. Here, here, here you go. You see the bottom? You see the label, Dolce? So there you go. You guys stop, stop with the conspiracy. So you must care, Amanda, to prove that it's not H&M or whatever the fuck the people are. I mean, so she's showing the text. She's so an adult. I would let people believe it was H&M in this city, in this city where people are robbed, all the time. I did. Yes. I don't have a thing real. Fake everything. Yeah. Amanda, be careful now. I mean, the house was already, that house was already robbed, I believe. Yeah. Back in the day. Wait, wait, when Francis had it or when Kyle? Oh, Richards, Richards. Richards has been robbed twice. I thought when Richards in Ceno home was violated, that was the first time. No? I thought it was that original house too, and they took her mother's jewelry, and I thought that was partly, I thought she felt, I could be wrong. Kyle got robbed like two or three times. Okay, let me look at this. Yeah. That GPT. How many times has Kyle, Richard, and Mauricio been robbed? Not that anyone's ever spent there. So there's that. Just, you know, At EDF, we don't just encourage you to use less electricity. We actually reward you for it. That's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays, we give you free electricity on Sundays. How you use it is up to you. EDF, change is in our power. So, that's that. Right? Well, the Encino house was burglarized, as you recall, in December of 2017. Do you realize that thieves allegedly took over $1 million in jewelry and luxury goods? Wow. While the family was in Aspen. That's what I'm saying. Wow. So, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Now, her daughter Farrah's home was burglarized in 2024. Anyway. Okay, go on. Whatever. No, it's very bad. Okay. And by the way, just for the record, she also, she's saying she made $40 million and she's also saying, by the way, what's the big deal? Let me be very clear again. We put our courses out there. They're online. You click on the one you want, you put your credit card in and you buy it. She says, by the way, when you're done with the course, we don't even follow up and say, if you like that course, here's three more new ones. I mean, first of all, you should throw, I mean, that's like a customer list. Kevin O'Leary from Shark Tank taught me about customer lists. You had them on your side of my show. That's because you could sell customer lists. So, Amanda, follow up with the people that you know, she says, no, if they want to buy another course, that's on them. I don't follow up. I don't say, you know, they choose it. She has a point. No one is forcing the human society to buy these courses. No one's forcing someone to go to a psychic. No one's forcing someone to, you know, take a peptide. No one is forcing someone. This is a world, a free world that we're in. I'm on Amanda's side with this one. Go on. Sorry. The 40 million seems like a stretch. I'm gonna say it. I don't disagree with that one, honey. I don't disagree with you on that one. I mean, I don't even know that Dave Ramsey is doing 40 million in courses and consulting. I mean, I don't know. Although, I think whatever Dave Ramsey is a whole other thing. Okay. Well, look, I mean, I like her. You and I have talked about this. Francis is bringing something for this show. I gotta tell you, I'm a couple of episodes behind because I'm so bored. I'm so bored. Tell me your theory on all of them getting fired because I, I don't know. It's so bad. Isn't it this season? I've been so much more taken with the secret lives of the Mormon wives. And now the Duggers, I'm reading nonstop about this sick Duggar family. I don't know other things to do. I go on. I don't know who it is going to be, but I mean, here's the problem because everyone is like with Miami, everyone's so shocked. I'm not shocked. We have to talk about that. I know you've done shows on this, but I need your theory next. I'm not shocked. I really think that when you listen, when you have a problem with your show that the people think it's boring, the ratings are down, whatever it is, and it is clear what to do, you take a mini pause and it comes back. Like next show, we'll talk about Potomac. Like it was very clear. It was not clear with New Jersey. And someone said, Hey, let's have Teresa and Melissa make up or whatever. Then it became clear with New York. It wasn't clear. Then it became clear. Like they don't know what to do with Miami. I feel Beverly Hills now. I'm not saying Miami's canceled. I'm sticking to that. You think it's done, done. This is the second time. I think I don't give a shit what Andy Cohen says. Andy Cohen said to you in a room full of live people that Carolyn Manzo and Brandi, and we're going to see Brandi take her damn hand and stick it all the way down Carolyn's pants. And Carolyn's going to fucking love every minute of it. And they're going to start making out. And Carolyn's going to take off her top. And Brandi's going to say, you're absolutely gorgeous. And Carolyn's going to say, really? And Brandi's going to say, well, I'm fucking drunk. So don't worry about it. Let's just go. And Carolyn's going to say, oh my God, I waited for this moment for my whole life. I would have gone with Phaedra. But girl, you're in the bathroom. Let's go. Andy also stood up on a stage and told you we were going to see that. So I mean, Andy says it's coming back. I don't want to hear it. Yeah, I'm sticking to that. It's canceled. But I say that a couple of years ago at Bravo County said, oh, you're going to see, you're going to see the girls trip. And then at the end, when the woman whoever stood up and asked him, he goes, I mean, I like, she was walking away and he goes, you know, I think, and I'm like, what it out? He's so good. He's so good. I don't know. I think Miami is canceled, despite what Lisa Hoxton and Andy say. But I think part of the reason is they didn't know what to do. I think that's the thing with Beverly Hills. Garcelle left on her own and that's all that. And then we brought, I just think it also wasn't this boring last season. I don't think they know what to do. Again, we're not getting rid of Kyle. Period. Now, who else should we get rid of? Everyone else really deserves to be there. If you isolate each person, the sum of the whole ain't working, but Erica is Erica. She deserves to be there. Dorit is giving so much and she's so interesting. She deserves to be there. Bo's, it's only her second season. I mean, let's have an honest conversation. I'm sorry for all the snowflakes in the back. Boz also brings diversity. There's that. But she also deserves to be there. Very accomplished. And she's in her second season. There's so much more we don't know. Next, Rachel. She just got there. People love her. Okay. A sudden she's, she's worth a trillion dollars and she too will scratch her eyes out if you actually come for her. And she's each individual person deserves to be there. Kathy's Kathy, Jennifer, Tilly's Tilly, Amanda, love her or hate her. Everyone's talking about her. She's the most each person deserves to be there. And by the way, if you get rid of Amanda, that solves nothing. We've done that. That is Diana Jenkins came in and we got rid of her. I would lose Tilly. Honestly, with you going through that lineup, not that she's not, not that I don't like. Adore her, but I don't think Tilly brings that much. She brings support to Sutton, but that's it. But you know, Not like the easy dead weight. Like when it's clear that Robin Dixon is going, when it's clear that Lisa, Rina has had a breakdown and she's going when it's clear that Dorinda Medley is headed to the halfway house because she lost her shit. Like it's clear. It's clear to us that Margaret's not coming back. It's not clear. And I really don't think they know what to do. And I don't think they knew what to do with Miami. And I think that's when things go on pause. And I don't think Beverly Hills is going on a long pause, but it's going on a pause. My, you know, Salt Lake was great last season. Everyone loved it. So there's really no. Nothing to think about. Just let everyone come back. They're not going to let everybody come back and getting rid of one person doesn't solve. It would still be boring if we got rid of Amanda and brought someone else in that does not solve the problem. One human being with the same cast, it's not, it's going to be boring again. So we have to get rid of people and I don't think they know who. Okay, Sutton, but why should we lose Sutton? She's good. Why should we lose Dorie? You say get rid of Tilly. Well, she adds humor and she's worth a trillion dollars. Like we love her. Jennifer Tilly. It's like each, it's, there's no clear answer. Bose, why should she lose her job? She's actually doing the job. It's not clear to me. It's not like what a strong cast, but this crystal tongue and mink off won't open up and she's boring. It's clearly crystal. It's clearly this one. It's clearly Katie Janell. It's clearly there's no clear person. They're all strong individually. I think it's going on pause for a minute. I do. And I think we're having a shake up. It's time. Yup. And with this shake up, you predict only Kyle and Erica survive. You think everybody else and so those are my predictions. Yup. Well, and of course, Kath, Kath will always probably be sure. And it may be Tilly too. I put those on the from taking the friends up out of it. You know, I just, Everybody else do you think chopping block? I know. I know. I think Francis could go. I think Francis could go. I love our girl Sutton, but I think Sutton could go. I think Dory could go. I mean, you and I love them, but I think people feel as though Dory storyline has run its course. Like we know they're headed for divorce. The finances stuff. I think it's. And the other thing is I think you can't like when it's a shocking revelation. I think like more than like, I think it has to be a group of people were shocked. We're so shocked that Vicki was let go. Well, two seconds later, the rat was also let go. Like I think when it's like, like if Jorrit was let go, it's like, why? I think it makes more sense to just cut across the board. A lot of people and I, zoe to me is like people love her. No, I think so has I know, I think so has a lot more in her. I mean, look, I think next season, zoe is going to have a couple more drinks and we're going to hear about how awful Roger was. You know, we're going to hear like how much we hate Roger, which poor Roger. But I mean, I'm here. Well, it's funny you say that because zoe apparently is getting Amanda Francis said at the reunion. A zoo was just horrible to her. So I think zoe by the re now that she's watching, she sees the comments. I think zoe, yes, has learned the game. The rumor is zoe is, you know, comes out swinging at the reunion. I love it. I think zoe has so many different personalities. I think zoe is embraced. I like so I, I like Boz or Boz. I like them all. I know me too. But I know what you're saying. It's just the combo isn't working. Right. So what do we do? Hmm. You know, I mean, it's just something isn't forget about who cares about me. I mean, the temperature of the people and they're bored, right? You're a little bored. I'm bored for the first time. I have to say for the first time, RHO BH is not must see TV for me. Wow. Last season it was, uh, I don't know. And I don't even know what it is about Erica. Like I love EJ so much. But even now, I, I don't know. I just feel as though what's there, you know, we know she has this impending civil suit coming up. I don't know. I mean, you know what I mean? We're not going to see the boyfriend, the hot boyfriend that's I think maybe Spencer Pratt security guard or something. I don't think she's going to share him. No, right? No. I mean, I've told you, you know, I want to see, I want them to go all out, but they're not going to. But I mean, I want Tom Gerardi in the dementia ward in prison. Like I want her to go visit him one last time, one last goodbye to Tom. I don't know. I mean, it's, I don't know what they do. I can't, I can't see RHO BH really being on pause because they, it's not their marquee franchise. Not even long, not even that long, but a mini pause, a mini one. Remember back in the day when we had minis? Remember the minis? I do. I do. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, you know, could, is there a scenario like we've talked about, you know, Denise, does Denise come back in? Rina says she would never come back. We're kind of at the D'Athany stage here. You've got to write me a check of $5 million because things are going so well for Rina, plus her daughters are doing so well in the fashion world. So she doesn't need the money. Look, I think the hybrid New York is the new formula. We're not in Atlanta. We're not getting rid of everybody. And I mean, look, they have three from New York that stayed. Now they have three from Jersey. I think this is the new exit. I think it's Kyle, it's Zo and I just think by a hair. EJ is, yeah. EJ will eat out Dorit. I think it's what you said. I can't. People are so sick of Dorit and PK like together that story. They're so sick of Kyle versus Dorit. I don't see this show being reset with a Kyle Dorit feud. I don't. I think it's, I'm telling you. I love my Dorit. I love my Dorit. I can't get out of my head. I literally cannot get out of my head. I can't unsee this. Guys, I wake up in the middle of the night and I come up with this shit, but I can't unsee it. Nobody's giving me a job as a producer in reality TV. Nobody wants to make an offer. I'm stuck. I'm stuck here with Sarah by and it all it wrote the rest of my life. Okay. I see. This is it. But you know what I mean? Like Dorit is amazing. Amazing. But I don't know. I don't know what's left. Nobody wants to watch Dorit and PK and nobody wants to watch Dorit versus Kyle. So I'm okay with hearing what's going to happen with Dorit, but she just said recently, she's not going to make up a car. She doesn't see it. So I think to reset the show, Erica is so in the middle. She actually is like a Luan. She knows how to play this game, right? Down the middle baby's learning from the way Dolores Luan and and EJ. Interesting. Interesting. We only have a few minutes left. So we'll have to discuss this later on. But what, you know, who is going to be cast around Teresa and Melissa? Oh, honey. Oh, honey. Wait. And who's the third person that's staying to Laura? No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I saw that. Yeah. And she's doing everything in her power to get the home back she needs to rent it for income and try to pay off these debts. Awful. Poor thing, poor thing. She bought for bankruptcy earlier this year. Yeah, she noted that she was unemployed, no income aside from her $15,000 a month that she gets from husband Derek Hayes, CEO and owner of Big Dave's Cheese Takes. That's all the money she has. 15K is good money every month. What is Slydy Vegan? Pinky's in trouble, huh? Yeah, what is Slydy Vegan by the way? A vegan restaurant. Oh, is it? Okay, Slydy Vegan. And was that like enormous in Atlanta or it's in Baltimore? I was in Baltimore. I believe. Wow, so is this not going well? It's probably not going well. It's the restaurant business as we've talked about so brutal, so brutal. It is in Baltimore, it's in Brandon, Florida. Oh, I'm sure that's in Brandon, Florida. Alabama, Brooklyn, New York, Atlanta, Georgia and Edgewood and Jonesboro, Georgia. Wow, yeah, Slydy Vegan was huge. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Huge. I know, but it's like a little bit the vegan craze I feel like is over, right? I mean, poor Pinky, but welcome to Housewives, honey. Everybody knows every thing. Yeah, everything, every little thing. Anyhow, just poor Pinky. Thinking of her about $1.4 million in debt, that's a lot of debt. $15,000 a month though, girl, I can't live off that. That's a lot. Sarah sees a lot, a lot wrong with this, Pinky. No, I don't. I mean, you know, I get it, I get it. People, it's very easy for people to live. Doree and Pinky should call each other. Larissa says, don't worry about us, Doree, we pay our shit over here. Oh God, hold on. I think we're gonna, I think it's time. Let's wrap. Talk to you soon. I love you. Love you too. See you soon. Bye bye. Bye bye.
