Mojo In The Morning

Second Date Update

10 min
Apr 8, 202611 days ago
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Summary

In this Second Date Update segment, Michael met Chase on Grindr and slept with him on the first date, but Chase ghosted him afterward. Chase reveals he was still processing feelings for his ex and used the date to try to get over him, leading the hosts and callers to debate whether Chase was dishonest about his intentions and whether Michael should have known better.

Insights
  • Misaligned expectations in dating apps can occur even when both parties discuss intentions beforehand, as emotional honesty may lag behind verbal commitments
  • The rebound dynamic is a common relationship pitfall where one party seeks emotional healing through another person without full transparency
  • Dating app culture varies significantly by platform—Grindr's lower friction for messaging may enable different relationship-seeking behaviors than match-based apps
  • Accountability and apology can shift perception of wrongdoing, even when the harm has already occurred
  • Gender-neutral relationship advice should apply equally regardless of the genders or sexual orientations involved in dating conflicts
Trends
Grindr positioning as alternative to Tinder/Hinge for same-sex dating due to lower friction messaging modelRebound dating as coping mechanism for recent breakups becoming normalized in dating cultureExpectation misalignment between hookup-oriented and relationship-oriented users on dating platformsPost-breakup dating timeline compression (dating within 2 weeks of breakup)Ghosting as conflict avoidance rather than direct communication in modern dating
Companies
Grindr
Dating app used by Michael and Chase to meet; discussed as alternative to Tinder/Hinge with lower friction messaging
Tinder
Compared to Grindr as requiring mutual matching before messaging; mentioned as alternative dating platform
Hinge
Mentioned alongside Tinder as match-based dating app alternative to Grindr for meeting potential partners
People
Michael
Second date update caller who met Chase on Grindr, slept with him on first date, and was subsequently ghosted
Chase
Second date update caller who went on date with Michael but ghosted him while still processing feelings for ex
Mojo
Primary host moderating the second date update segment and caller discussions
Gavin
Co-host providing commentary and judgment on Michael and Chase's dating situation
Shannon
Co-host providing commentary on the dating conflict between Michael and Chase
Quotes
"On Grindr, you can just message them and then you don't have to wait for them to match with you, for them to respond."
MichaelEarly segment
"The truth is, I'm still in love with my ex, you know, and it just wasn't the same, you know, with him."
ChaseMid-segment reveal
"I think that you're going to treat it like you would treat it if it was a guy doing this to a girl or a girl doing this to a guy."
MojoHost commentary
"He lied to you about his intentions that night. He went into this thing trying to get over his ex by getting under Michael."
HostAnalysis segment
"I owe him an apology because it is, it's just a jerk thing to do. I'm sorry."
ChaseConclusion
Full Transcript
If a cyber attack hit this week, would you cope or scramble? Cohesity recently discovered only 6% can call themselves truly resilient. Get the playbook they're using. Cohesity, resilience everywhere. It's the second date update on module in the morning. Second date update. We got here. Got Michael and Chase. Oh, I like this. We got two guys that are on the second date update. A little same sex relationship going on here right now. Michael getting ghosted. Michael, how are you? I've been better, but I'm all right. How are you? Good. How did you guys meet? We met on Grindr. Let me ask a question because I do not have a Grindr account. No matter what people think, I ask my son this all the time. My son, Jacob. On Grindr, is it better because there's more abundance out there than going to Tinder or going to Hinge to meet somebody? Is that why you go there? Because it's purely same sex relationships? Well, not necessarily, but Tinder and Hinge, you have to match with someone where it's Grindr. You can just message them and then you don't have to wait for them to match with you, for them to respond. Okay. What happened? You guys went out on one date, two dates, and now that you're not getting called back, what's the story? Yeah, we went out to dinner, but we did have sex after, so I don't know. It went kind of fast, I guess. The sex or the dinner or the date? The date. The date to the sex. Yeah. No, not really, but I kind of, I think that I was more open to it because when we talked, it kind of seemed like he was open to future dates and maybe was looking for something more serious. Okay. And not a one night stand, which is what you're feeling right now. Chase is on the phone with us. Chase, will you say hello to Michael? Hey, hey. Hi. Chase, what's going on? What is, hey, what is going on, Chase? Well, you know, it was just, it was a great time. And I thought it went well, but you know, it just sort of complicated. What's complicated? Well, you know, I mean, we hit it off and stuff like that. You know, he's just a sweet guy and I really, I do like him a little bit, you know. So it's just hard, you know what I mean? It's like difficult, that's all. What's the butt here? Well, the truth is, I'm still in love with my ex, you know, and it just wasn't the same, you know, with him. And it's not him, it's me, really. That's not just me and mine. I know it's not me and mine. Who is, like, how fresh is this breakup from your ex? It's, it's, it's okay. So it's about two weeks ago. So it was about two weeks ago and when was the date, Michael? When was this last week? So do we believe chase? No offense and don't get offended and hang up on us here. It sounds to me like you were cheating on your boyfriend and you decided to go out with Michael and now you're realizing that this is not a good situation. Oh, no, no, no, no, we were, we were broken up. I was not cheating. What it is is if he wants to prove wrong. I thought this would sort of help me get over him. Oh, so you kind of used him. Do you believe that? Shannon, Gavin, Michael? I do. You do? But I do. I just think that it kind of sucks that this was the case. Like he knew going in that he was not going in thinking that this could be the potential start of a new relationship. He was going in thinking this is going to help me. It was a very selfish thing. I feel like I kind of believe him, but at the same time when he hit us with the it's not me as you thing, that kind of sounded a little contrived and a little false. But he's still he probably still misses X and he won his X. I get it. Do we think, though, that he should have said something to Michael about this? None of his business. I think, though, that you're going to you know, but he wants to be the rebound. I'm saying he would. He went to go get some buns and that's what he got. And he not in there looking for love. He's just mad. He got played 844 mojo live 844 6656548 the telephone number. I'm going to say this to people. I don't want you to treat this like you would, you know, treat it special because it's Michael and Chase. What you treat it like you would treat it if it was a guy doing this to a girl or a girl doing this to a guy. I want you to tell me what you think of Chase going in for some when he still has feelings for his acts. I personally think chase what you did was wrong. Why though? Because what Chase did, he's messing with Michael's feelings. Michael, you're hurt, right? Yeah, it was really messed up and he made it sound like he wanted something real and I had no idea that he. He lied. He didn't want a real say. I know, but he lied to you. He lied to you about his intentions that night. He went into this thing trying to get over his ex by getting under Michael and I think that that's not what exactly Michael was wanting. And Michael, how often do you have sex on the first day? Not very often and I had told him that and I was like, I'm not really looking for a hookup. But you did it. It's talking about. I know, but that was after we discussed it. It wasn't like I was just being crazy. Did y'all discuss dating and potentially finding out? I said I'm not looking for a hookup. I'm looking for something more serious. I don't want to be like a one-time thing and we hit it off on the date. That's not cool. I felt more comfortable. Hold on. What I'm saying isn't cool. I'm just not of the cloth of I don't do this. I don't do that. I don't do this. And then you do everything you said you don't do because he was taken by Chase. When did I say that? No. You don't sleep on the first night and then you woke up in his bed. No, I never said that either. I'm telling you this was if this was a woman, you would be defending. And you would. Whatever you would be. Bruce, what's going on? How you doing? I was going. What are your thoughts, Bruce? Man, I think he lying man. I ain't even gonna lie. You know, whether you whatever your your person is, but I just think he lying. You know, it sounds like can say when he each out with that, but it ain't me as you with it, whatever you lying man. He lying, right? If there was a man in a woman, come on a man. I'll be lying on a date. I'm just saying, I'm just saying he lying. He lying, bro. Which one's lying though? Michael or Chase is lying. Which guy's lying? The guy that the guy that caught in the top awesome is not me as you. That's the guy that's lying. Yeah. Okay. Chase, that's chase. That's the guy's lying because I agree with you on that too. Michelle, what's going on? Michelle. I don't think Chase is anything wrong. Really? I think no, I think he probably does want to go out on dates with someone else and get over the guy. He's not dating anymore. And he maybe he thought just going out might help them move on. I don't think he intentionally meant to hurt him. He went out with him. If this was war, the roses would be busting his ass. Oh my God. You know that would be totally a different story. Shiana, what's up? It's Mojo in the morning. Hi, Mojo. Hi. So I think Chase with a little selfish, he needed to be upfront and then Michael could have made a choice for himself. Yeah. So the little selfish for Chase to be like that. I still have feelings for my ex, but maybe I'll have feelings for you. Let's go. You know what I mean? Like just, just say that. I'd probably, I don't know, Michael, would you have still slept with them if he said that to you? Absolutely not. Okay. Well, there you go. It wouldn't have worked for Chase. Well, because at least then you know, there's the, what the risk is. Listen to this. Textures. I guess you know what the risk is anyway, but he kind of talked to a different game. Two, three, one says you don't look for love on grinder girl, please. And then listen to this one. This is a, it's almost similar one. Six one six says grinder is a hookup site. The fact that he ghosted him and didn't just come clean is the problem. That's interesting. Cause I don't know grinder at all, but it's grinder, the Tinder of gay apps. They say people get married on Tinder. I was going to say my, my best friend Kelly got married from Tinder. Okay. Well, I don't know. I don't know. Michael, I your heart broken, right? No, we're definitely not. I just think it's rude and annoying. Okay. Yeah. I get that. Chase, you and the acts back together again. Are you guys back hanging with each other? No, we're not actually, but I really learned my lesson. The point is, I do, you know, I'm talking to you guys. And listen to everybody. And then also, uh, I owe him an apology because it's, it is, it's, it's, it's just a jerk thing to do. I'm sorry. I like that. You accept the apology. Yeah, I do. Thank you. Yasha, go out again. No. In a while. I'm not. He's being honest. This is the home of the dirty on the 30s. Throwback throwdown. Second date update and more of the roses. This is Mojo in the morning.