Episode #78 Featuring Dr. Anthony G. Beck! A no BS approach to cracking the code on TRUE health obtainment! Sifting through facts and calling out nonsense with health and biohacking!

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Alright everybody welcome back to the Dillon Gimelli podcast. I am really really looking forward to this conversation today. I've had some really good animated in-depth conversations with my guests today and I have to tell you I hit it off with my guests on a different level because we have such a same mindset about just telling you what you need to hear and not what you want to hear. And I think that that is one of the main things that has drawn me to you brother and I appreciate you coming here to see me doing this in person. So thank you for that. Thank you for inviting me man. I needed a little trip out to the desert. Absolutely well. I got a little dry nose you know this Arizona I'm a Florida boy so you know I'm perfect. My crew might be a little off here. I can't say enough about my guests today. I'm going to try to give you the entry you deserve but I can't really sum it up into words but he's a physician. He's a clinical researcher. He's a world renowned authority and integrative and functional medicine. He's got 30 years, three zero years of professional clinical experience and he's not that old so that tells you he's been going and over a hundred thousand patient encounters across six continents. Now one of the things we're going to talk about today is he is the creator of the balance protocol which I have been blessed now to learn about that we're going to talk about but it's a whole systems wellness approach and it enables you to understand how your unique biochemistry holds the keys to moving you to ultimate well being. He's a leading expert in functional nutrition, epigenetics, nutraceutical science. I can go on and on and on. He's a sought after speaker. He's got a damn sweet book. He's got some products to talk about. So my friends welcome Dr. Anthony Beck. I saw love it love it. I'm known for my intros bro. It's all I'm good at. So about all that. That's not how you got to number one baby. Oh man. Look, you know the biohacking industry, you know the health, the supplement, all of it. There's some great people and there's some bad actors. Yeah. What's your mission? Well, and that's just it. I mean, at the end of the day, I've been a clinician. I haven't been working on getting famous and working on becoming great in my craft and training other clinicians around the world and balance protocol. So that way we can get fantastic clinical outcomes. Right. Yes, I'm a capitalist. But I'm a contrarian Christian and constitutionless for all my seas. But the, don't all in there. Why we're getting to know each other. But the thing is with that is that I have had the blessing of people seeking me out when all of that equals one and quantum and biohacking goes awry because if there's, if there's power in mechanisms and various molecules, supplements, protocols and so forth, that means they exert an effect on the body. Well, most of the time people are exploring those things as they should. I'm a big advocate of a person taking control of their health care. And without any quantification, they're really just going, oh, well, I heard, you know, microplastics, but they're not testing for them. Well, I heard about mycotoxins, but okay, well, I did a microtoxin test with them. I'm going to detox and then they're doing detox and then it's parasites and it's heavy metals and it's Candida and it's, and it's all these things could totally be true. They're just trying things and I applaud that because you don't give up hope, right? And what's so funny is is when I stand up for certain things out there on the, because being an integrative, you know, physician, I embrace the good of, you know, both sides if you will, you know, holistic, you know, I'm a naturopath and a doctor of Oriole Medicine by education. So that's where the doctor part comes from. I'm not a medical doctor, so I don't deal in prescriptions or treating diseases. Never been my model. But being in the integrative and functional medicine realms, you get your hands in a lot of things, or Haitians who want to try things. It's a different demographic. You know, there's a certain amount of people who will only go conventional medicine and there's other people that will only go this and that's a sad place to be. And I understand both for doing it. One side is like, well, these guys are quacks or a real doctor. I get all that. And then there's like, oh my gosh, I would never go see another doctor again because all they do is push down drugs and then they both are true. Those are there, that's their encounters, their story. And so I've heard all those. I tell people famously that my patients have been my greatest teachers, right? So yes, I've earned, like 23 letters at the end of my name, but I don't use any of them because I'm a person who has gotten into the stories of so many patients and they tell me what they've tried and they've done this and they've done that. And when the failures happen, they don't post those on social media. Everybody's always talking about, hey, I tried this and it was great. But then when things go awry, I have one right now down in Columbia. He heard about taking some prednisone and he started taking prednisone because of his demeanor reactions and stuff and he was n equals one in it. And lo and behold, he hits me up on what's up? This is literally just two weeks ago and asking me to basically save his life down there and I told him, of course, go to the hospital. Yeah. Because he was taking 30 milligrams a day. No. And people don't realize that prednisone is what we call four times physiologic. Yeah. Right. So it's the same thing as 120, okay, ish, which is ironic real sidebar. I mean, we can go forever. That's actually how I got into this field is because my mother had a nasal infection. She went to the doctors when she was younger and they gave her a shot of prednisone, put her into a coma when she came out of the coma. She was a type one diabetic. Wow. So with that many, but now check this out. I love prednisone. It's a fantastic. We used it properly. That's correct. There's a great book called the Safe Uses of Cortisol. Yeah. That changed my life. So anyways, so this gentleman, a friend and patient of mine, we have to do a titration per go, just stop him cold turkey, but the more the story is, he was trying it without any testing or looking at it and now he's paying the price. So we've got him stabilized and he's back home doing fantastic. We've got him down to 12 and a half milligrams. Anyways, so that is my passion is to give patients a clinical framework and a method that can guide them in these things. It's the order of operations. It's not whether it's, this is right or wrong. It's just, here's where it falls into play. Right. So that's the long answer to a short question. So you said integrative and a lot of people hear these terms, naturopathic, integrative. And you know, I get it average everyday person doesn't know what that means. Yeah. So when you say integrative, what does that actually mean? What does that consist of for you? Does that mean that you're taking each sides of the equation, pieced them together and you're kind of like the guy that has the answers that utilize us all aspects. Like you said, some people go one way, some people go the other. I always feel that it's best to stay down the middle and use all your options. Because they're both having positives and obviously having negative. Absolutely correct. And so that's what that is. So there's different terms, you know, complimentary alternative medicine. Yes. Those there for there, that's a department within, you know, that, I mean, so it's in medicine that's there. So integrative is exactly that. Integrates conventional, alipathy modalities with things that work in our evidence based. Okay. But it's also limited. It can be pretty obtuse on a lot of things. But like, for instance, there's even, you know, board certified, you know, plastic surgeons that win whose Arnica and Arnica is a homeopathic. Right. And we know that it works. Okay. Things like that. Okay. But then there's some people that will say, well, we're, I'm going to use, you know, this herb for this disease state. We see that in the, you know, in the holistic, I just want to call it holistic. That's my, I have to beat up on me because you just get this whole list of stuff. Right. Remember back in the day and the health food storage, you probably remember this too, that prescription for nutritional healing by that couple who wrote it. Yes. And people go in there and they go, oh, I have psoriasis when you take all of these. So it was really good for cell and supplements and it still happens. And you could tell that in my functional world. So I was one of the early, my pioneers and adopters in that back in, right around circa 1994, 1995. Oh, wow. At the end of the day, it's grown. And then people use the term root cause medicine. These terms are clumsy tools. Right. Because you'll say root cause, but then they name things like inflammation. Right. But that's like saying automobile. Of course. Right. So I'm, I'm a motorcycle is an automobile. And so is, you know, a big old ram truck that's sitting out front. Pretty dope. Shout out to you. Yeah, he liked that. It does my style. So both are automobiles, but two totally different performances, everything. So they'll use terms like that or leaky gut or adrenal fatigue or SIBO. And even though they're saying they're treating the root cause, no, they're not. They're using the exact same model as conventional does, which is treating a name, blame, claim, attainment game entity with a list of supplements. Uh-huh. You know, the medicine cabinet of spices. Fricky verbiage, rearrangement. And it's brilliant sales and marketing. I'm horrible at. Right. But you know, a lot of people that are bad at marketing have the best intentions. Yeah. And really are more in the know on things because they're so dialed in and focused on the actual facts. Yeah. Then they are really kind of helping. Yeah. You know, and not to say that there's not good marketing because there certainly is, but there's so much trick marketing. And that's what I love about you in the way that you do things. But not you have zero fear in saying what things are. Yeah. And I know that that doesn't make you Mr. Popular, but it does to me make you Mr. Jerrible because I don't give a shit about the popularity. I care about what's going to actually truly work. Not band aides, not nonsense that's going in and out that you're just peeing right out, not trying to do 25 things at once when you only need two things. Well, and that's just it. I mean, the patients to their own, you got to give them a hard time too because they've got to do it. Yeah. Is there in the now business? Yeah, I know. So, for instance, you know, we watch TV and you can only advertise pharmaceuticals astrodocrophic. This is right for you. So they can do that on open TV and media and social media. It's, you know, hey, this does this. You know, and it's great for, you know, fatigue and insomnia, libido, muscle skeletal pain and then the next thing, the routine and another, it's what I call the furious five, right? So, you know, gut issues and pain and then, you know, insomnia, and then it's always that what we call top of mind awareness is what I've learned from my marketing thing because I'm actually the physician to a lot of the famous people that out there in the marketing spigs. You know, now I've gone out to San Diego. I've stayed with some of these big names. I'm not going to name drop and because they tried a bunch of stuff and then I'm behind the scenes and like, hey, listen, let's do this. And then they're like, well, back, you need to pick a niche. You need to niche down. You need to go, okay, autoimmune. Well, women's autoimmune, women's autoimmune, and I said, I can't do that. Right. So, I don't treat diseases. I don't diagnose. I don't treat diseases. I support system for everyone. And so, yes, you're a home usapien, but you have a biochemical individuality and a unique story and a genetics like anybody in like no one else. And so you have to know what you're dealing with in order for any of that stuff. So, nope, pill potion powder, gadget or gizmo can truly be given to you in the absence of knowing your story. But, much less what I do is your data of your system. Now, you can try it. I'm not saying that. You know what I mean? It's like say like any car or automobile can get you from point A to point B, okay? There's a tons of stuff like that, but I go, that, it dewaists you a lot of time and money. And then in the meantime, things don't get better. All of the, you know, advance of other companies. And it's, that's really the epitome of what happens with the, the lure of the multi-level marketing stuff, right? And, and so those models thrive on that, but the entire market thrives on cognitive dissonance. Yep. It, it depends upon that for you to be a con of war, vegan, plant-based, bang, bang. And it's just like when I tell people what I've done with my diet and they're like, are you going full keto? And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm just taking combinations of what works for me. That's it. It is not a name of anything. It's Dylan's dialled in diet, okay? You know how you feel, okay? Because that's how it is. Thank goodness we're not veterinarians who can treat a snake and a hamster. They don't even talk, the patient doesn't even talk. But so you know what works? So I listen to the patient. That's the most important part because the patient is my boss. They're in control. I just work for them and see, conditional measurements say that. Why? Because somebody else is paying the bill. When you use insurance, in case of shit, and when you use insurance and he who pays the bills makes the rules, they determine what goes on. Well, I tell people to demand a higher level of healthcare from their providers. And the first thing you need to hold them to task is to tell them you work for me. You don't have to ask can I get this test done? Well, yeah, sometimes it's going to pay for it. So back to cases such as yourself, you know, we did some testing and the cool thing is is now we can dial you in. So I'll support you. I mean, I've started and that was my background on sports menaceide exercise. And so I've worked with a lot of you, registered Mr. Olympia and all that stuff. I've worked with those guys, Mr. Virginia back in the day in the early 90s. I managed ballies and sold gym memberships when I was in school. We did all that fun stuff and people are on gear or taking a song. I would have a song there. Okay, right. And there's not going to have them not do that. That's their mentality. I know. You know, I have famous patient saturday in mixed martial arts and things like that. And, you know, top performers in, you know, Spartan and tough mutters and all that kind of fun stuff and big name by our ears. The thing is though is there some of them get paid. That's their job is to abuse themself. It makes no sense to sit there and get your head knocked around. But they're going to do it anyways. So I'm not to judge them say, okay, if you're going to do that, let's at least get some data to see what the consequences are. So you can make better things. And if everybody's wanting that performance, you know, because if you can, if you can add a pound to someone's PR or reduce their time by 10 seconds, those are, that's massive. That's sponsorship. So we all want that. And, you know, a lot of, a lot of people out there like to go after sports teams and all that kind of fun stuff. That's all great for marketing. But the brain is around is that I will help people support whatever they want to do. But we have to have that trusting relationship. I have to know. Right. And then we says, okay, let's see what the data says. Right. In other words, if you want to push harder in this, here's the systems that you have to look at. Right. I don't feel like say I'm not going to go on fancy gear. Let's just talk about something like hormone. Okay. They'll like people like gentlemen on testosterone or women on vaginal estrogen. They're profound. I mean, in 2005 to eight, I was lecturing at 8 4am, M-M-M-G and teaching other doctors by a dent of hormone placement. Yeah. A lot of them are my students out there. Okay. So the thing is though, is they have their place. But where my thing was was letting people know that you can put hormones on, but they're all governed by vitamins, minerals, amino acids, fatty acids. Right. So you better assess those if you're going to do them, not just put them in. And so everybody's like, well, these are the things that raise testosterone. Nose holes real good for dudes, right? But who says you need more and who says that if you put them, you have, you've seen the movie Fast and the Furious, you know, you put too much in there and the system can't handle it. Right. That's what happens. So that's why I'm going with this is because I really, whenever I try to make a difference in the health space, I call it the noise and confusion of the info space, I ramble like this because I have a limited amount of time to let them know the met. There is a different message. And this is why you and I connect them. It is so cool is because how could we blend that efficiency and direction, but still honor and respect people's decisions to want to do these things and not poo poo any of these other companies that are providing a fantastic product. Right. Yeah. It's this more is always better concept that we live by. What I, here's one of the things that you and I speak the same language on. And it's a variety of things. In particular, when I, when we were talking when I was driving home and I told you the light bulb, when I was like, I don't think you realize what you got here. It's the, it's the ability to be able to convey that this is so singular. So I coached what I really started. I was doing videos. I discovered peptides and I was talking about steroids. So those are the two things that made me get millions of followers. Okay. And no one was talking about them and I had a great deal of understanding, but I would constantly get comments and questions. Well, can I run this? Can I run that cycle? Can I do this? Same with bodybuilders. Well, and I say, first of all, I'm not your dad. You can do whatever you want to do. You don't need to. I sacrifice. Secondly, I don't know if I don't sit and have a full blown 30 minute to an hour conversation with you. I don't know your family history. I don't know anything about your current values. I need to see panels. I need to see this. And that just pisses people off. Isn't that? Oh, you didn't give me the answers that I wanted. Exactly. And I was like, hey, man, you can go ask any schmo out there what you want. And they can tell you what you want to hear. And then you, then two, three months later, not only have you lost all your gains, you got no libido, you're wondering why your liver's jack, why your kidneys blown up and why everything else is fucked up on you. That's right. And it's because you just wanted the answer that you wanted. And you listen, I'm not the clinician for everyone. There's certain people that we just, I just don't resonate with. Yeah, it's totally okay. I have other clinicians in my method that I met to them too, because I do that. Right. Other people that are, my personality is different. And I'm a ball breaker for sure. And I'm very good to me. So people need a little bit more coddling. And that's fine. Respective right where they are. But and that's just it is there in that now business and they want what they want. So those people that's fine, they're going to do that. We're not a match. But those who want to apply the rule of rigor to do things the right way and the right order over time to get there with without these downsides, because there's a lot. And you're not hearing about them. You know what I mean? I was just on a podcast recently and of course you probably saw the thing that this is relevant to this is you know, debating your in therapy. I'm I oppose it. I think it's a ruse. It's a scam. It's a fraud for clicks to sell private label supplements. Right. And cheap photo biomodulation products from Alibata. That's what it is. Okay. But they need that sizzle. Those people that that resonates with, they don't come to me. So it's self filtering. So I'm fine with all that. Yeah. You know, but either then I also get, you know, we have our executives, you know, our top our C suite people and they just went all the cool stuff. Yeah. I want the superhuman package. I want a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you know, for a light bed, you know, a PMF mat and an oxygen machine. I'm going, dude, you go, I'm going to do all that effort about forty. The FU money. Yeah. Just got the throw around. And then they get nowhere, you know, and they do their little executive screen. And it's fun. That means you can tell everybody they got the stuff and take them to their room with all their shit. Yeah. And then they, then those are the same ones who are like, well, you know what? Now I'm going to open up a med bed spot for you know, or these, you know, these screening clinics and you come in and we do all this stuff. And it's all in result things. It's not foundational. It doesn't get into, and we guide me there because I'll start talking about my lab array that I curated. So, but that's what they do. And this is what we wanted to talk about was what is the problem now in our industry? It's got a lot of media. And people now know about red light therapy, your photo, my modulation stuff. I got, dude, I've been doing it for thirty years. I mean, I've been using, you know, methylene blue for decades. The first peptide ever did was melanotan2 and circumc- Me too. To all of them by, maybe because you know, you know, I got a little Cherokee in me. I can tan. But I'm an Irish boy. I got some stories for you on that one, man. Oh, boy. I went a little heavy to the nausea and I'm rocking through the grocery store and I'm going, dude, I lived in Maui when I did it. Do you want to know how dark I was? I literally had you hanging tin, man. We went on the longboard. Two days I stayed home because I was embarrassed. Yeah, it won't go away. No, no. I still have, you know, moles from it. But see, so peptides are cool. Yeah. And those are fabulous, but I know that's all the rage research purpose. But, um, but yeah, so that's where we're going. That's why we have so much fun is because all the stuff is there, but I think now the market is ready for the message that how about you find a way to find your way? Yeah. And that's what I'm putting. That's totally different. I'm not telling everybody to eat a certain way. Some people do need to be carnivore. Some people need to be vegan. Some people need to do differently. It's all on the table, but I will show you the inclusionary and exclusionary criteria for you specifically and show you that when it gets to here, you might have to shift. But do you see why you're unpopular? Yes. No, but here is the being in the middle. I was like, and I've been accused of that on, on other shows like, how is that convenient for you to just be both sides? Well, the problem is, is because what you do when it's, when it's going, okay, you need this, you need that, you need that. You're not telling the whole room. You need to go by this thing. Yeah. Right. The perfect human diet or every home you're saving needs a dead. But you're, you're hurting somebody that's trying to sell to everybody. And that's the problem with you that I love. Well, because I'm here for the people, I, listen, any human that will get on anywhere and act like they, oh, I'm just going to do that for free. I'm going to do that. Just stop it. Just stop it. Yep. Plea. Because no one buys that shit and it just, it pisses me off to no end. However, we can all make a lot of money in a great way where we're actually, we're, we're getting paid less for what we're doing because of what we're giving more of and still doing pretty damn good. The issue is, is that when you start being a disruptive technology, people going to come out. Of course. And that's fine. I love people to substantiate their claims. What I do is I share my professional clinical experience. Now, on the, I've even got a great, sorry, if anybody wants my mind, it's beautiful, it's never really nice. The pyramid of evidence. You know, we've got the mental analysis and things like that. Yeah, yeah. Now, the bottom, okay, is anecdotal, okay? A anecdotal, what? It's still in that way. So yes, all my clinical cases, like you're talking about, I've been involved in over 100,000 between me and all the clinicians that I've trained. I've rapid fire we do. We still do it to this day. It's all anecdotal. But you know what? I also know this when I was in college, I was in midshipman for, I was going to the Marine Corps. I was going to go, I was wonderful, you know, at the top gun days. And I want to fly, you know, the Hornets. Or Harry or so, I don't really know what you do. As long as it was Jets, baby. But anyways, then I ended up meeting this blonde and that changed my whole life. We had 16 year run. But anyways, so I digress. But the thing was, is that, so I have a very strong love, you know, for the United States military. And this was, of course, I lived down in the ocean front in Virginia Beach, Virginia, right down from Little Creek to the Marine Corps. Nice. So I've always had, you know, fun with that. A lot of my patients are famous Navy SEALs and stuff like that. As a matter of fact, tomorrow, I'm going to be on one's podcast. You're, that was coming to Tisers Call Man, coming to my show too. So, so I do a philanthropy for the military special course. That's awesome. Okay. And so with that, those days are crazy. Yeah. Oh yeah. The Delta dudes, you know, anyways. And so my whole thing with that is, is that they talk about disruptive technology, right? When you come in and you do different things, a lot of people are going to hate you for. They're going to be very critical and whatever. But if I can be vetted and get past those sons of bitches, it's a whole different ball game. You know, and I've had them, Nate, I have one. He's a green beret and he named one of his twin sons after me. And there's a, there's, I've been blessed with so many cool lives like that. So I know what we do works. Right. And so at the end of the day, when I want people to understand is that there are a lot, the most that with very few exceptions, 98% of the ones that you currently see with all the followers of I got like what, 180,000 on TikTok, those are people who just worked on becoming famous. And they are, they're not a source of correct information. And what the litmus I would submit to people is, can that person differentiate me within what they're saying? Because in science, evidence, anecdotal, okay. And when we start going up the tier to stuff and when we do the scientific method, which I love, I was told in the other podcast with Tom and Aaron Thervey, they said I was in the cult of science. And I said, yes. I said, I love the scientific method. So the thing about it is is that I said, the thing is, is in studies, we do inclusionary and exclusionary criteria. You can't test for things and be pregnant or not, smoker or not. There's a lot of different things for age groups and women. But in, so what I want to say to realize is like, well, that's not being offered in the health and wellness space. They're not different. They're telling everybody that women, you need this. Everybody needs to be on a methylated vitamin. That's bullshit. No you don't. I love you too. Because here's the deal. I see that everybody go, all right, he said to do a methylated vitamin. It's not going to be smarty pants, but I'm going, okay, and he did, has he looked at your record? Has he, has there, you measured any of your stuff? There he's, no, your story. Does he know what your gene SNPs are? Oh, well, he saw me a test. You know, it's five SNPs and said, I had him TFR. And therefore I should take methylfolate. And I go, uh, they look at SHMT. Do you look at, you know, there's so many that they don't look at that are the true players. And so people are making decisions to do things because of these famous people in social media. Yeah. I know. I'm saying, I'm not trying to say I'm better than then. I'm just saying, I don't know. Right. There's a lot of things that I cannot comment on because the context is so, I don't know until I actually know it's it. And you don't either. No. So how about we get together? No, because you're just guessing because how many things have multiple similar symptoms? That's right. You know how many? So I do a lot of hormone optimizing. Okay. I've been doing it for years. And I get the same story. I'm tired. I don't feel like having sex. My mind's all over the place. I need testosterone. And I'm like, it's the same thing. Brother. We got a lot of digging to do for you. You may have low testosterone, but there might be a simple thing. Yep. And you may not. It may be because you eat like shit because you're stressed because you're a court. I mean, you know that I was cons. Yeah. It's endless. And if I don't do due diligence and it's not just a, and this is where we're going to go to the balance protocol. I'm transitioning. So it's not just a, a, a, a CMP and a CBC. Right? That is your basic, basic, basic. Yes, we need that data. A lot of percent. Because that is like, it's like the person that, well, my old, the old, my, she told my brother, I need a full cholesterol panel. That is telling me nothing. I don't know anything about you until I see your APOB, your LP, little, your particle sizes, then I can dig into your background and I can learn what I need to know. Sex hormone binding, glide, and all that kind of stuff. And that's the thing that thyroid is evolving for the proper thyroid panel. With low testosterone, you, let's take a look at your free. And if it's, if it's low, maybe your SHBG's high, quick. And then we go, okay, well, well, why is SHBG, HDB, HDBG? And see, so what I do is is the boring stuff, the non-sexy thing. And I go, let's talk about air, water, light, sound, EMF and food. Let's talk about your lifestyle, your environment, your mindset, and your nutrition. And then let's take a look at vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and fatty acids that go over and all of those. So I am the true root root cause guy. Yeah. Okay. You can't just say, oh, it's because you start with the gut. I don't ever start with the gut. The gut does not come first. That's what everybody loves to say. And I know it's sexy and it sells all the supplements and the probiotics and this pore base, this and the things and the fecal transplants and they'll glue them in and all on the enzymes. I had to chloric acid and then the domestic gum pre-chloric acid. It's insane. But I'm going to hold on a second. If your lifestyle isn't right. If you have, I'm going to go a little woo, woo, woo, I want to ignore my boy and say this and go trauma, you know, cause you know, I was, I had some trauma as a child. Yeah. And we correlates sexual abuse, verbal abuse. You know, my mom, you know, she's passed away. She, I say lovingly, she's just a jar of dirt now. I love you mom. She lets me, she's so funny. But anyways, you know, her thing was, is that she was an alcoholic, right? Two-pack a day smoker. I was with her when she went and got her white chip at AA and then we were in, now I was in a smoke field room and all the coffee in the background. So they go from one addiction to the neck. So I've got skin in the game plus all this, it's patient stories. But so the thing is, is that you got, you can't correct things with pills, potions and powders. If you don't have fundamentals and you, you share this with people to them, value of sleep, prayer, meditation, laughter, hobby's connection, community. See that, mate? That's actually, you can't put that into a thing. Or wear the dongle around your neck. That's a fact. It is a fact. That's why people miss. I know. I have started to study neuroscience in detail and I'm piecing together parts that I've been missing up. When you realize that you have, you can never know too much. You can always know too little, right? And so what I, and this, it sounds simple, but the mind, body connection in terms of what it means to our overall health and scenario is absolutely everything because if you're screwed up here, you're going to be screwed up here and vice versa. Right? Because this can throw you off up here. Anxiety, stress, lack of focus. It all correlates into on, but there's so many avenues. Yeah. And so people can't navigate the maze. But those are the four things. So it's environment, lifestyle, mindset and nutrition. All are equal to hold up the stool. Yeah. Okay? And different people have different balances of everything. Yeah, you can kick back on to and have the other one's kind of shitty. You know what I mean? You can go to play around. You know, and you don't have to be perfect. You don't have to be a purist. People like, what the heck? You drink alcohol and go, yeah. I love a nice cocktail. I can have one or two because, you know, I see, I'm Irish, but my liver is not. Right? I mean, you know, if I go, I might smoke a stokey from time to time. There's different things like that. I can't use cannabis because it knocks me out because of my genes. Right. You're going to be, see, you're going to be very transparent. But at the end of the day, I'm 53 years old. I feel fantastic. I am an optimal health and I love it. I don't have a single health complaint in the world. You know, beautiful little princesses at home. My wife's 17 years younger than me. And so I have a lot going. But you know what? I still have to do the work. And so, but then I still evaluate in things like that. And yes, it's anecdotal. And I'm not saying to not have conventional care because that's the other thing that's missing. You got to still go to the doctor. You need that physical exam. You need that hands on. They need to look at your eyes, your ears, your nose, your throat, your reflexes, your skin. Don't get rid of that in conventional because there's a lot of early clues, right? Because I'm a preventative medicine guy, not early detection. Right. And that's where balanced protocol comes into play in our transition here is that that's what it is. It is the protocol. I'm not afraid. So, balanced protocol came out of a clinical necessity of how do we get people to navigate this complex soup of all these options on the thing. It's like going to a cheesecake factory menu. Yeah. Dang. You know, an M.A. despise. And an E. too. Yeah. I like, I like a, a no macaw. Or something. It's like a small college course. I'm here for the 10 course menu in Orlando. It's the Victorian Album. It's okay. A little change. So, that's what it is. People come to me and go, just tell me what to do. That's right. Okay. Cool. Well, then let's look at these. Now, CNP, Kim 14, UA, and all this stuff. Yes. Those come later. Yeah. I start people in a different place. Back to those vitamin, is menos amino acids fatty acid because the functional labs, how they're functioning in real time, can give you the indication of why these non-specific inflammatory markers like CRP and Sedraith and Fibrinogen and so forth and so on, Melond allowed to hide, go up. So, when you see this, you're saying, okay, I'm looking at this. Chances are CRP is going to be eye chances are ALT is going to. Yep. And we're going to correct forward anyway. So, then by the time we do those, they don't show up. There you go. So, I mean, it's, I'm bad for business. You're hitting the actual core cause of the problem as opposed to, well, your cholesterol. So, I hear as a statin. That's right. Yeah. And then, listen, we're not going to end the debate on cholesterol, good or bad. We're not going to end the debate on raw milk or non. Right. And I'm not in all that. See, my thing is, I can show you, for you, if those are correct for you now. Yeah. That's the difference. So, I'm going, I believe these people, they're saying with passion and honesty that this is what they find and they have studies to substantiate it. And so does their detractor. I can explain why. Yeah. That's the difference. I'm going, you're absolutely right. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then, I tell people at the end of the day, it really comes down to see they use the word salad. And now, they go, they go, will increase risk. Right. Contributed to associated with. See, it's risk. No one uses the word cause. They don't say that cholesterol causes our disease. Because it's, well, cholesterol is not the lipoprode. See, it's word salad in, in Bounce Protocol, we have an adjus called context cubed. That was my way of, it's seven people. Most people have heard of real estate as being location, location, location. So I say context, context, context. So then you have one context that then you're like, okay, well, where do you live? Well, you're going to, you're going to eat and you're going to have different environment, lifestyle, mindset, nutrition. Right. You guys got a good feed scene here. I know. I'm having gone all the way here. You're so good. Anyways. So I digress. In Arizona, then you wouldn't floor that or you would in New York or you would in Sweden or Japan. The lifestyle, tell me it doesn't change. Just wipe it, says, well, I go to Italy and I can eat all the pasta and it's not the gluten. I go, ah, exactly. Well, here's why it's not because they have magical wheat derived similar. I mean, to say, yeah, it's because you're walking around. You're not stressing. You're enjoying things. The air has changed. There's so much more context, queued. It's a different life. Yeah. So then what do we do? implemented that in the person's life. But then guess what you can't take a person from zero to all that stuff. No. No. And then in what order. What's important. What blew me away when we were talking. And you know this. Because I said, oh, hold up. It was when we started talking about the diet aspect of it. And you start telling me, because I was explaining to you things. I went through change my diet. And you, when you started telling me, wait a minute. It might be working for you. But that may not even be the key. That's right. I, when I talk to people and I coach them, I tell them to me diet is literally the most important because it has so much bearing and effect on everything. You know, I mean, there's so many aspects that are importantly have to address, but if you, you can't out work a bad diet. Nope. You can train all day long and you can't out run it because it's interesting. And you can't out, you can't out eat bad lifestyle and environment. No, you can eat perfectly. And if you ain't sleeping. No, that's fine. That's fine. Yeah. If you're in a toxic, you know, work environment or relationship environment and you're things like that. And you don't have a connection or community thing like that. You ain't gonna eat all the healthy, one will still do private chef. No. There's no shortcuts. No. Okay, do what we're saying. All of it and people don't want all of it, generally, but I'm saying, hey, please. No. Come to the light and realize that you need to do all of it. Right. Because that's really what it comes down to be. Well, tell me a little bit and tell everybody that's listing what we discussed about how you are figuring out because you said it was a formula. It's numbers. How are we figuring out, like for me, what my macro nutrient intake needs to be? Because you were dialing in to me on the phone and I want to share it. Perfect. Okay. So particularly in the by hacking space, you know, and things like that. And whatever what I did was is I said, okay, well, that's my stick. People get that. But then in order for me to do it, I had to rely upon multiple labs in different places and doing different things. And I said, well, what if I could put it all into one curated program and was all inclusive? So that way it is affordable and accessible for people of all things because that's another bad thing about the market, man. The consulting industry has gotten out of control. That's a whole other topic. People waste so much money and things and so on. Anyways. And so I said, I set out to fix it. So and I can name drop. So I've been with a company called Genova Diagnostics for 30 years. Yeah. I remember well. I had a lab, I'd like to use it. And you know, I've been with them from the very beginning back when they were called great smokies. And I've been had since tons of clinicians to work with them and they've sponsored me to talk before. So at the end of the day, I was like, listen, you guys have the technology. You have the standard that matches me and always has been. But I said, we, because they asked me, they came to me and said, hey, listen, we really want to, we see what the industry is doing. But things are kind of changing. We have different competitors doing different things. And I said, yes. And I said, the problem is, is it's all over the place. People are going here for their dried urine test. And they're going over here for their SIBO test. They're going over here for their microtoxins and all of the things. And I said, so people are trying different things because they don't have a framework. I have the framework. But I have to use those other places too in order of operations. I said, but what if I could bring them all together and put them into this order? So like, for instance, key number one of Bounce Protocol is air, water, light, sound, EMF and food. So we need to assess functionally all those things. Okay, and I could rapid fire real quick off the top of my head, right? So we've got malabsorption. People want to know what's going on. They've got dysbiosis. They want to know what's going on. Everybody's a love of the mitochondria. I love the mitochondria too. I'm a mitochondrial master, okay? Okay, but I also love the endoplasmic reticulum and the gold deaparatus, okay? And some other things. Every heart of the set. All of it, baby, it was all divinely created. And man, don't just, you know, beautiful. Just don't give the woodwinds, you know, and things. The cellular membrane, why does no one talk about? Oh my God. The protection. And then there's that, okay? And so then I look at all the mitochondromarcus, literally, the entire citric acid cycle has all of its chemical and I assess those in every patient. So people are talking about mitochondria health and doing supplements for it and different things. But they'd have anyone looked at that. So then I screen for microplastics, petrochemicals, I screen for Norepinephrine, dopamine, serotonin and the enzymes that cover those, all the B vitamins, true functional methylation markers, six, nine, 12, all of this functionally. I look at every amino acid, essential and non-essential. I take a look at every fatty acid, every three, six, seven, nine sat fats and the enzyme that governs them. I take a look at all the minerals and heavy metals. And guess what? I put them all into one lab. It's incredible. It is the starting place and I finally brought it to fruition. So they said, and I said, this is what I want there like they said, now we can't do that. About a month later they called me up. Dr. Bear, we're gonna build a true test for you. And I said, well, which one? He said all of them. And I went, what? I said, dude, don't do that. Cause I mean, I will dedicate my entire year, decades to this one lab. Well, you sat down and really looked at it. And they did. And I said, but hey, listen, we're gonna have to look at some genes relative to these functional markers too and include them in the same array. And they said, you got it. We just bought, you know, five more multimillion dollar gene SNP assessment, which ones you want. That's amazing. So I flew up to Astral North Carolina, finally toward the place. Never been. That's all those years to know and everybody there. They made it past the flood when Hurricane came through. And it was really wild to see that up there. But anyways, and we did it. It's incredible, man. So it's all in one place. So everybody's wanting to look at different things and there's this, you know, pentadecanoic acid supplement out there now, the, you know, the fatty 15 stuff. And everybody's like, oh, it's wonderful to all defend things like that. And I'm going, well, guess what? Have you tested your C15? It's not a new fatty acid. I've been testing it for three decades. It's included in the array. So if you, if you supplement it because it sounds good because of the benefits of it and you don't know what yours are, you could throw things in balanced. Yeah. Because there is this balance of, you know, and just we'll talk about the membranes. We're going to talk about your three, sixes, nines, and et cetera. And everybody goes, well, you know, seed oils are bad because they cause inflammation. No, they can and may if you're not imbalanced at these other things. Okay. So in other words, you can strike a match here, but not in space. The potential is based upon its environment which it occurs. So I'm not saying that, you know, seed oil, well, what does that mean? Are we talking about like I eat, I really enjoy my cold pressed organic non GMO, it canola, great seed. It's fantastic. The scientific method is conclusive. It has its benefits. But then, well, what would you say to people that say it's all this when they show that picture of it coming out of the gummy and the deodorizers and the toolean and the acetone, I go, yeah. I'm not talking about that. Right. You know, that's like not every wife and woman is my wife. Right. Your kids aren't my kids. Well, that's just it. I hate that because then then you do that and you start making those comparisons and comparing everything to everything else when it's just not a fact. That's the context and that's the breath of fresh air that I want to bring to the market. It's so easy to say though. It's so easy to just throw everything into one category. We got it because why is it that one says it's good and the other one says it's bad marketing, cognitive dissonance. But I go, it's like King Solomon, okay. I'm a Christian. I love the gospel of still a student and learning thereup. But one of my famous stories is that the Solomon, the wise king, the story of, there's these two ladies and there was one baby and they were arguing, well, who's baby is it? And mom was like, that's mine. And he says, no, it's mine. And he says, well, his wisdom story was, he says, we'll tell you what, we're going to cut the baby in half and you both get half. And the one went, no, no, no, no, that's hers. She can have it and he goes, that's the mom. Okay. Oh, kind of a funny parable, but I use that as an example, if you want to litmus test because don't believe me because I'm passionate too. But I'm going, if anybody, method or approach requires one side to be silenced, they're the ones that are the baby cutting people. They're the ones ironically that also have the force of the police state for enforcement of their way. That's your clue. A good tree will bear good fruit. So at the end of the day, are they able to give you your inclusionary, exclusionary criteria for what they're selling? And that's just it. And when somebody gets angry or they have to argue or they have to yell at you to make a point, they're on. And anytime you're going to die, people are going to die. You're foolish. You're foolish. And they're the ones you go, no, no, hold on a minute. I don't ever do doom and gloom. I'm like, well, you might get sick. You're probably out of some troubles and whatever I'd be concerned. But the ones that scream the loudest are always the culprits. The ones that throw the most stones are always the ones you can't trust. That's it. It's the same story. It is so true. And people know that, but yet they still have that hope, that faith that I can get better and when I'm in desperation, they do it. And I'm going, I love you. And I understand it's a very difficult challenge, right? But you're missing information to make a decision. I mean, my gosh, people, and I joke about it because I train a lot of OBGYNs. And the thing is, I'm going, it's so funny because then I will tell you about not in the biohacking stats, but in wellness industry, it's about 75%, 80% women anyway. And so the ladies have taught me well, okay? I'm not pandering, but it's the truth. Just look at the demographics. I mean, this is... No, I know it. So the thing is, it's like, well, they'll go, and this is, it might be a little awkward. I mean, we could do weird and say space free. Yeah. They'll go and they'll pick up a person to go and sit in a chair and scoot down a little bit closer and a cloth gown by a list of what company they're paying a monthly thing to on a Ponzi scheme, to who they go to, and they're all up in their business, and they just met that guy. I know. And I know that's weird, but it's a funny thing if you kind of think about it for a second. That intimacy being made of a decision of who's going to pay for it randomly, this person's going to be on there. You granted, there's always someone in the room, and I mean to be insensitive, and I like that because I have three daughters. But the thing about it is, is that I think we can make better just litmus tests and incisions for where we get our care from, when care's where they, no one asked their doctor where they went to school because it doesn't matter. People ask me, I'm like, oh, I'll say, you're just trying to judge me. Let me save you the trouble. You're not going to like it, okay? I'm not a medical doctor. I'm not doing that anyways, and I stand mind-blowing, okay? I'm an educator, a motivated, inspired. That's what I do. So my point is, is that I want people to be able to learn to do litmus, and that is, where do I get my trusted information from? If it's product-centred only, if it's dogmatic, that there's this only one way to eat, or everything is bad, or this, that, and the other, or it's fear-monger-based, or they start with, don't do any of this before you do this. And oh my gosh, and people are sick and tired of it. Do you know this, man? They are, the number one complaint is, I don't know how to believe, and they're killing us all, right? And listen, I like the maha thing, but I don't support what it is and how it's doing, and if that pushes people away from me, that's fine too. I like some of the stuff that's going, of course. I go one issue at a time, not this blanketed thing. You know what I mean? I always like things and concepts, but it doesn't mean I like everything. That's right, you know? That's it, and I'm not perfect either. I make mistakes. I might mispronounce an enzyme, or a SNIP, or something, even after doing it for so long. So that doesn't matter. I had somebody do that to me on a post. They said, I said, the GHK peptide, well you didn't say you. Well, why do people pay me thousands of dollars to coach you on peptides? I go 100 miles an hour because I'm just making a point. We didn't say you. Well, my wife, like I talk about that. So she's a TikTok affiliate, she gets products and stuff like that, because we homeschool our daughters, or get all that fun stuff in these calendars and things and fun stuff. And one time she was doing this calendar, and this is this thing for a little girl, she's nine. And one of the, and it was this letter, and words of the day learning her stuff, I get in phonics, and the letter B came up. And she goes B says B, B says B, brown beaver, brown beaver, Buh, Buh, Buh. Everybody goes B, didn't say Buh. Dude, but you want to know something about that? We ends up use, and her thing on that, she is sold hundreds of. I know. Because of the controversy. So here's one of the things I won't let everybody know. I'm gonna spill the beans, okay? Because you got the golden hip-hop people, and I ain't don't need. My whole thing is is this, they do that controversy on purpose. Because people love the crack, and it's like so. That fact, and I've been encouraged back make a mistake, get controversial. I'm like, that's not me, believe me, I'm already messed up a soup sandwich. I'll make a mistake, I'll get it for free. I'm not gonna start now getting contrived. Oh. Because you get used this hashtag, or do you think I'm like, anyway, so. Be careful of who you get in your info from. I am not just the only clearinghouse of information, but I just want people to know that, look and see, are they selling fear, worry, and doubt? Or are they saying, listen, you have a biochemical individual, you need this, you need data. I wanna make a point too, that you brought up about the schools. Okay, so, one of the things that I know, see I'm not the conspiracy guy, and people know that about, some conspiracy. No, but I'm the guy that keeps it as real as it gets. No one would have been through, you know, I don't waste time. Yeah. I have a high value. Dude, your speed is crazy. So I don't, I don't look around when it comes to giving information. If I know it, I'll tell you if I don't, I shut up. Yeah. And I can tell you right now, when it comes to schooling, right now, they are getting embedded with bullshit. That's incredible. And that's how it works. So there are a certain ways you can't fault the doctors that are prescribing things anymore, because that's what they're taught in school. It's all in doctorna. Yes. Well, my point is, yes, they went through the program and they went through the school, but how do you know what the program even is anymore and what they're being taught? That's the problem. So I don't give a care in terms of what their 50 letter alphabet soup is after their name that is half of its made up shit. Yeah, I care about when I talk to somebody like you that's running down 75 things that a doctor would never ask me. How many times you go to a doctor and you got something wrong with you and they'll say, well, what are you eating? They don't have time for that, and that's the pain for you. Exactly. You get 7.6 minutes. Right. So what are you eating? How are you sleeping? It's not in their model. It's, I'm going to write you this and this is going around right now. And that's what we've been seeing. And but how do you know it's been going around? You didn't even test anything. What test is that that's telling me that's going around? I don't know. So what you're saying is, which is so nice, is like, I'll shut up on the products themselves, but certain products that are very popular right now, and how do you know it's even working? That's right. It can be. How about you go get proof? But that's just it. How do you know? But then on the other side, the people would say it's not doing anything which pisses me off. Yeah. How do you know that either? You don't, because you feel something, because everything makes you feel something. And some of it, as you know, is placebo effect and you think you feel something. Yeah. And that's that mindset. Placebo and nocebo are incredible. And we should leverage them. Yeah. The same thing, when it comes down to, projecting where you are and mentally going through, and there's a lot of exercises that I do down through balance protocol. It's a very complex thing. And people can learn about it at bounceprotocol.com. But the thing is, is that I think what is important is to peace and be still. And here's a starting point. And that's what I wanted people to learn. And that's what I put together. And that's what I'm sharing. And sorry with you, I'm going to listen, man. Okay. I get all the stuff. There's wonderful things out there. Love the molecules. I've helped formulate for lots of them. I know everybody gets this. I'm just telling you, I'm an insider. Which is fine. I have my own product line. Okay. That's what it is. And they're not private label. I'm in the bathroom. But the thing is, is this, no matter what it is, let me show you. It's like mom and dad raising you of how to select a mate. So in other words, you can't go, okay, well, yes, yes, make me laugh. I've got dollars. Make me laugh. Six foot tall, tall, dark and handsome. Six feet of your income. I'm going to haul a second. What's this relationship with this mom and dad? Okay, where did they grow up? Who's this people? Thank you. How does he treat the wait staff when they come around? You know what I mean? That kind of fun stuff. What's his emotional intelligence? And so there's litmuses there. And oh my gosh, courting and all that stuff, knowing what families you're going to be married into and all that stuff. You got to consider all that stuff. But people don't do that for stuff that they're literally putting into their body that's going to move physiology home. I'm wondering why are you so quick? It's insane. Now it's like, come on, man, you do. We don't do that anywhere else, you know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, I mean, just like attorneys, you know, it's like there's some that are great for a traffic ticket but not for a murder one. You cannot. These guys, dude, what's with all these attorneys and billboards around here? I think that's vegasabers. You're the area. Oh yeah, we don't have that in Florida. Excellent. It's pretty funny. But my point is, is people are picking decisions for stuff like that. They're marketing. So I see this psychosis in different realms too. Now, I'm super steeped in it. And so when it comes to like our kids in school and stuff, exactly, I mean, I did homeic and shop and learn how to ledger in your balance of checkbook and writers, I mean, this was cool. Well, that's nothing's going anywhere. This is square. But you know what? People are doing that too, right? We're on our phones. We're on social media. We're on things like that. We're so connected to that. And all the Facebook ads come by, you know? And the Instagram stuff, and the Reels, and the TikToks, and the Doomscrolling. And people go, oh, that sounds good. I do have fatigue and saw me a little libido. And I think I can say. Exactly. And I'll try this. It's a little insidious. Yeah. And I'm going, oof. So it's tough. I'm swimming against the tide for sure. But this is why I'm so grateful and blessed to come on your platform and share with your listeners this. And hopefully it's a breath of fresh air. And it just, it really encouraged. And because am I selling them something to you, damn right, I am. But it's a way. And it's not a taxed any pill potion or powder. It is a program that is allowing people to find out for themselves. You can go to side. So I'm giving you a tool that you can now apply in whatever you do. Now do I have a team of clinicians that can help along the way? Yes. But we stay in our lane in proper things like that. And so what we got to do is not negatively demonize that industry because it's fantastic. There's a lot of great products out there. People love to take me to the shows and walk before. Yeah. And just go to the booze and okay, tell them like this one is it because there's a lot of shenanigans in Charlotteson. Let's talk about that right. But we love a good entertainment. Yeah. Like the Roman amphitheater. And it was just gruesome. But that's kind of how it is. But I want people to know that you are a category of one. And you've got to know what makes you different. And now you can go, oh, I do knew some year, a little bit of A. That is a neat little molecule. But guess what? What it does to mitochondria, my topid, and stuff like that. And I'm going to say, well, guess what? I curated a lab. We'll be able to tell you before do it. And then bang. Because now here's the thing. There's certain supplements that you got to stop. They all, but I feel so much better on them. And I'll go well, then that's your clue that you shouldn't. You got to work on some other stuff, right? Because I seem to be the only person to say, hey, take this, but then stop it here. Because when you've had enough, you've had enough. Just like food, alcohol, water, or is that? Or is that? Oh, man. When's the exit? And so again, I've never seen anybody else talk about when to stop something. That's it. And I'll show you how to stop. Is it financially beneficial to tell anybody to stop? And that's why I defend my colleagues. They are my colleagues in the Conditional Medicine Space. Because people poo poo them because of all their bad stuff and the 300 and some thousand people they kill every year from error and that's true. And all that stuff is there, okay? But then I go, hold on a second though, okay? They have certain standards that are protective and are established in that hair. So don't get sucked into the, I just want to prove now. Just give me, you know, non-seed oils and no gluten and take away this and take away this and whenever I go to take all these supplements with the bubble, that ain't going to work either. You see what I mean? And so it's bound. It's a bound's understanding. But now it's protocol. Man, bro. That's it. And because there's been a lot of great guests of watch your shows and things like that and certain things like similar, maybe similar vernacular. But I can, I could absolutely say that it's the only place I still remain the one. And I say that with all humility and benevolence that it's translating all of those. They all have their spaces. Right. That's fantastic. But wouldn't you like to know that kind of stuff? And before you do a parasite cleanse, before you start biohacking, before you start doing any of that stuff, let me take a look at 225 biomarkers and 10 SNPs to start. Now you know, now there's both. I don't know what's, do what? That's it. And then now you can work with people such yourself and stuff like that and then just really take. So that's my call to my, my, my fellows like you too is like, hey, listen, I'm not competing for business. No, let them go through and it's called a bounce protocol GPS. So get protocol started and it's your navigational thing. So that was it. See up at my little marketing. I know you have to. We got to tell. Got a little fun with it. No one like when I go to eat and like, well, this Chilean sea bass was caught off the vamada gas car by Javier and on the ship, the Susanna and Tethatore, they arrived this morning. And there's so much more taste here. So I recognize that. Okay. So I'm trying. But at the end of the day, I'm going to, I'm just really not really. So I need some pee. I need some blood and I need a cheek swathe. Exactly. And so that kind of stuff will come together and they can get that information and then you can work it up. Well, we're going to do is, you know, you, we did the test. Everybody. There was a retest that we're going to do now. Yeah. There's a slight lab. Maybe we're not perfect. It's a mess fire, but we're going to, we're going to do another episode. We'll be just break down my testing so you can see all the layers of the test, where I'm good, where I'm bad, what needs fixed and how we're going to fix it. Yes, I'm fine to talk about all that because all it does is help. And I don't know what the, we're all screwed up. Absolutely. Everybody screwed up. And guess, and to your point and onto your attribution is, is when you guys are trying things and being that guinea pig, okay? For other people, so you can have the experience and learn that and bring that skin in the game, the man in the arena, you do certain things to your body. Yeah. Okay? And it happens and that's totally fine. So that's what I'm saying. If they're every single person who does anything biohacking should do this program. Because it is everything just get started. It's the starting point. It's not the end all to begin though. I would argue every human needs to do it. It really does. And I know that's, that might sound duplisive having it said everything that I said. Man, I'm telling you, this is my life culmination. I have a fantastic lab, you know, powering it. It's unbelievable. The value is there and it's incredible. If I, if I, just say I need to be whatever, but bouncepurclegps.com. If you go there, you can read all about it. You can get it right there. We send the test kit directly to you, all the states in Canada and you do a little blood sample. You're in your cheek swabs, sitting in the lab a couple weeks later. We have all that. You get an amazing report. Not this little 10 page, you know, 10x gene SNIP report. Okay. Not at all. Because this is designed to be self-steering, right? So you get a full explanation of all the biomarkers, the 10 gen X SNIPs that matter right now. And then you have also an online community over bouncepurclegps.com.me where you can go in and ask your questions free. And also there's educational materials, guides, SNIP logic, what to do, all this kind of fun stuff. Because, you know, if I can give one example that's kind of famous out there, if I'm if you have time, but we've got to wrap it. Yeah. But anyways, it's just like, like with people talking about like MTHFR, we've heard about that real quick. That's one of the SNPs that we do. But the problem is is people think that MTHFR governs their conversion of folate or folic acid. And that's categorically false. That is, you got to have, you've got the folate receptor. Then you have D H F R, then you have MTHDR, those govern how the bio folate and then SHMT, there's others. But people love to say the mother effer gene and then sell you methyl vitamins for it when it's not even the one that really moves the mar. You got to look at what creatins doing, comt and all these other things. It's a bigger picture is all I wanted to share because that's huge in the market now. But the cool thing is this lab includes all that too. And I explain it all and then debunk that entire thing that's designed to sell supplements. I love it. It's crazy. Well, you know what? I love the disruption because it's making a difference. It's making an impact and you're doing it for the right reasons. You're not doing it for anything other than trying to actually help people sift through everything. And I personally find that to be such a strong trait and characteristic that we're lacking. And I appreciate it. That's why I wanted you to come down here. I wanted to give you the proper spotlight and with the proper questions so that you could actually be heard in the proper way. So I hope I did that. It's great. I mean, I appreciate you letting me share my philosophy with your listeners. And again, it's a blessing. I received this opportunity. It's fantastic. And I just went at the end of the day, I've been lost the words because we're at the precipice of something so phenomenally great to the market. And I can say that like this is literally the culmination of my entire three decade career. And I've curated something that can change and transform people's lives. That is not a marketing stick is I'm I've done hundreds of thousands of these, but I'd never on one place. So it's so cool and accessible and affordable now. And it'll it'll really help your audience with all these experts that are awesome in their field. We'll make them so much more lovely and delicious. We got to watch episode two so we can go through my panels and we'll get into a deep dive on everything more intrinsically and go through it from there. Brother, thank you for coming down flying down to see me when guests come down to see me humbles me because it makes me feel like it's worth it to come down here and talk to him. So thank you, Dr. Anthony Beck. Check him out. We're going to link everything in the description, but he definitely needs to be heard in a variety of ways. So that wraps up another one everybody. We appreciate you and thank you. Stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Jamelli and Dr. Anthony Beck.