#Throwback Episode - w/ Swizz Beatz | (Ep.59 & Ep.60)

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, what's up? Y'all, what's going on, brother? Drink Champ's radio. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. Hey, Hank Sangria, this your boy, Henn O'Ahi. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is DJ EFN? Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players in music and sports. You know what I mean? The most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts. This is Drink Champ's radio, where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! Hey, Hank Sangria, hope you're safe. It's your boy, N-O-R-E. What up is DJ EFN? And this is Drink Champ's motherfucking podcast, Mixup. And right now, I gotta do the introduction. This is not only my brother. This is not only a person I knew for 20 years, Kevin Reel, me and him, never changed. Always see each other, always smile, always proud of each other. But not only that, top five producer of all times. Damn. Damn. All times. I'm talking about from the beginning of the hip hop to right now. Maybe top three. Damn. Shit. He's been here. He's made albums. He's made artists. He's took artists from people who just say yonkers to all over the world with the sound that he made. He continuously changed the sound of music, changed the sound of music with me when he made a record for me and we're going to get into that later. And people started following our sound. Literally. This man has kept continuing going. From the highest up, he's worked with them all. Tonight, we have my brother, my good friend, top five, top, maybe top three, best producer of all times. Pressure. Music mogul. Beautiful life, beautiful wife, beautiful children. He should look at his Instagram and inspire to be that good with your kids. This is a fact. Make some noise for my brother. Twist Beats. Bro, your time. Drink some time. Show them this. This is DJ Ian Fenn. This is Twist Beats. That's the kind of sound. Listen. Like your juvenile shape, bro. Yeah, yeah. We keep a real hip hop over here. So as you know, we salute our legends. We give our people, they fly us when they can smell them, and they trees when they can hella. This is a show that we sell. We sell. We sell. We sell. We sell. We sell. We sell. We sell. We sell. We celebrate our legends. So many people. That was me. So many people. Busy, busy. Once you get 10 years in this game, people say this over for you and things like that. That's not what we do here. So I just wanted to explain that. But I want to let you know that tonight we are celebrating the legacy of Swiss motherfucking Beats Beats. I want to take it from the beginning. I want to take it from the beginning. Very early on. Because I believe the first time, was it rough rider anthem? Was that the first time? No, what was the first time people heard? The first time I think was this group called the Reeps. Right? And the Reeps was signed. Who was they signed to? They were signed to, what's our brother that manages? He managed Usher. Big, big, big exec, I'm forgetting his name. The brother that had the stroke. Shakira Stewart? Okay. He's going to kill me for that. I got to excuse me. I'm straight. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. 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I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. I'm from Shanghai, Dubai, Texas. So you was on it before that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I knew I was there earlier. This is pun sleeping on the couch. Where? Nori telling me. Oh, hold on, man. Okay, okay. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. Okay, okay. So now, your uncle is actually, because people don't understand that's your real uncle. Like, people think when you say uncle, they think that if you're saying like, uncle, like he raised you, but not really. This is your mother's brother, correct? My father's brother. Your father's brother. Yeah. And he is? D. and Y. D. and Y. Down there's a real brother. Yeah, yeah. So how hard, good. Come on. That hard tatted on my arm is real life for real. Right. And one thing that people don't understand, probably in 2017 is, you know, Rough Riders was in the streets before music. You know, from the bikes, 200, 300,000 bikers, street respected, you know, before a lot of different names with logos and letters in front of them. You know, my family was literally in the streets. Like a street movement. And it was my grandfather that was running Harlem at that time, building up the buildings, you know, E-Mam at that time, running the F-O-I at that time. And, you know, the movement that we had going was, was, was going against what my grandfather movement was. And so he made us make a choice. Y'all going to do that. If y'all going to do the street vibe and take away from the positivity that I'm putting in the community, y'all got to leave. Or y'all going to have a problem with us. And those are the triple OGs. Right. And so my uncle, Y'know, he had this artist that he was talking about, DMX, Harlem Knights, a couple of other artists. And then we just, you know, changed the whole direction into a positive way. Still kept it street. Now, DMX was like the first artist that Ruff Ryders signed, correct? Yes. I mean, that got signed to a major label. Yeah. And. Before the locks? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Was it locks first? No, it was X first. I was starting to bad boy and then DMX was. Yeah, locks, I mean, locks. I've been locked from signing back. Even before the deals though, who was first with Ruff Ryders? X was the first. X was X-Pups, you know what I'm saying? That's how X said it on here too. Yeah, that's that's that's how that went. But I can't say they was concurrent. I can say that my uncle Y had them in the studio at the same time. You know, I remember hearing more songs from the locks studio done than X. X was more mixtape vibe at that particular time. And I love both of them. I remember, I wish I can get those beginning mixtapes that I heard from them because it's just, it was just, it was in a very authentic space at that time. X-P is so authentic and X being like, he's like, this never be another X. But what I'm asking you is, did you know that from the beginning? Yes, I did. From the beginning, like even before, like he met with Leo with the Joe Y calling right there. Who got the phone on? Yeah, I got stomped down. Mr. Mr. Leo. You know, Mr. Leo. You know, Mr. Leo. Mr. Leo likes Mr. Leo. Mr. Leo. He's been killing that on Instagram. But so, from the beginning, you knew that this guy would change hip hop? Let me tell you how much I knew that. I knew it so much that I got kicked out of New York schools and had to move to Atlanta. I had that written down, by the way. You get kicked out of school, but I'll get hit. And, you know, after I got passed all the different things, I wasn't used to the gang activity and all those different things. I eventually landed back on my music, right? And the way that I survived in that music ring was reciting X verses that nobody never knew about. And X was out of the summer? He wasn't out. He wasn't out. Okay. Nobody knew. I knew that I was living through him even in high school. And people were like, damn, like, and I'm like, shit, they ain't gonna never know who X is, so let me do my thing a little bit. I know. Right. And I just had- Because he was really living in that street? That's why you said that? No, because I just never thought that we would ever be as far as we got. You know, I never knew that we can get out that backyard that we was in. I never knew that we can get out that box that we was in, that mentality that we was in. So I was just having fun and kind of paying homage to X and Freestyle. And because I'm like, he not here to say it, so I'm gonna say it. Right? And to this day, that's my dog. And I got a lot of great news from him this year. His album is crazy. And I promise you, it's going to change the game. And I don't say that like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I downplay everything. Right. But I'm gonna tell you, like, what Dahl got to say on this is it's gonna go from the streets to the Grammys, inshallah. Like, that's, you know, because like, I go home- It's a perfect time right now. I go home to a very comfortable lifestyle that I worked hard for, slept on studio floors, everything. And to see my brother that I started with not be where he should be, it fucks with me every night. So I didn't use all the excuses that I could have used not to. Now we heard rumours of rock nation at first, but now we're hearing epic, epic, epic things are going on. I mean, what the dog is. She's epic. He's an epic energy. He's an epic vibe. He's an epic inspiration. There's none before, none to come after. And we got to protect that. That's what I mean. He means necessary. But I think the most important part is a relationship with two brothers. It's like, like the music, the music, the music comes later. You know, the fact that you can reach and pull your brother up with you and walk that same walk. To me is more than the money, more than the deal, more than music. Like, I fuck with X right now because he's spiritually and mentally ready. He's always been lyrically ready. If you're not spiritually and mentally ready to go out to the world, and it's a waste of time, everybody can want the return of him, but he got to want the return for himself. But it's like, it's like you just saying, because like everybody, you know, we see you on the gram and you have a luxurious life. Like you don't really have to do a DMX album. So what really drives you? I think I do. I think I do. Break that down. Because like money doesn't define you or your lifestyle. Make a noise for that. But anyway, break the noise. So seriously, it's like, you know, when you go back and you look at the things that really make sense, it's brotherhood. You know, I know a lot of rich billionaires, and I call them poor kings. They got big boats, hookers on them, no family, no nothing. Is that really living life? They not happy at all. They not happy? I don't care about your money. I never even did music for money. I did music for a feeling, for an expression, for an outlet that I couldn't express in an academic way, you know, that I figured out how to do it in a creative way. You know, and I never, and I understood, I'm like, wow, you know, this kid that's being quiet in class is smarter than all of us. You understand? And we just got to give that person a chance to identify that, you know, X has a lot of history, a long history of a lot of different things that a lot of people are going to understand in this album. And you understand, like, why he's who he is. There's a reason for that, from birth. Right. From the way he was treated, from the way he was handled, from the way he was delivered. That's the reason why X seemed like the way he is. It's not because he's just portraying a certain style. You like to say, yo, X is the closest thing to pop. I say X is the closest thing to nobody. Yeah, nobody. Yeah, because I see that man with 30 million in the bank right in the abandoned buildings with candles where we had to find out. X gave his money away. He didn't blow his money. He gave his money away to homeless people. I see this man take shoes off his feet, sit down like this, and people in this room singing this part of this man. I can't leave that stranded. Right. Right. I just make some noise for that. God damn. I'm so excited for Cardi Shot time. Are we ready for that? Cardi shot. Cardi eight. Cardi eight. Cardi eight. Cardi eight, good. Pour some ice in my shit. No ice. No ice. No ice. He don't need no ice with the eight. Cardi eight, it's the new shit. I got two. Bigger than the Cardi people. Let me tell you something about the Cardi eight. I'm in. In three, in three, you know, I got a activation called no commissions. And no commissions. For the artists. For the artists. Art people. We give 100% back to the artists of what they sell. And let me give you a number. And the last three shows we gave back to the artists, $3 million. So that's why we're going to take this Cardi eight shot. You understand? For giving back to the artists and the people in their pocket. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. Oh, that's smooth. Mmm. Mmm. Not going to lie. Shout out to Bakundo. It tastes like Puerto Rico. Yeah, I respect that. I remember. Like, Viacuba. From Puerto Rico. Viacuba. Remember when I told you that long time ago? Viacuba. Come on, man. Viacuba. Well, I told him. I told him. We met. We met. He said, he wouldn't believe me when we first met. I believed you. I've been believed you. I can't believe that I'm sitting in front of my brother, and I'm at this table. That's right. This is his fucking show. That's right. We're going to take this, man. Me and my partner here, we celebrate hip hop, man. And one of the craziest beats of all time to me was, Jigga, what's my mother fucking name? Jigga. Oh, yeah, all that on there. Jigga. Jigga. Jigga. Jigga. I can't curse on this show. You can curse. You can curse. I said you were going to curse. No. I was doing mumbler rap. Mumbler rap. Mumbler rap got me fucked up to it, so I'm like, you know, but listen, when I heard that, I want to say, I thought you played it for me once. Man. And it said, no, I'm bugging. I'm bugging. But in my mind, it was true facts. True facts. But yo, that, do you remember that time? We were taking music videos. Rocks Cafe, good. Jimmy's Cafe. I remember the first, like, it came out. Flex had dropped it. Boom, right? Flex had it. And this is this, this time, a flex player record, which New York City should go back to. A flex player record. Flex on that. It should go. Flex is on that. Big up flex. He's on that right now. But let me just say something. He played it. We ain't never heard it. Flex played it. And it was like the whole city knew the record already. I was like, that's it! The niggas dropped it at seven o'clock. We went to the club. Everybody was like, did it? We knew the lyrics. You know who's singing the hook, Jigga? I have no idea. Eve. Oh, no! I never knew that! Listen to the record close, but the original record was Jada. Wow! That's what it was! It wasn't Norrie, it was Jada. And he didn't want it. He didn't want it. And then Jigga came out. And we got into some words. Shout out to Jada. Yo, did he ever drop a verse on that? Yeah, I feel like you want to finish that story. No, we didn't. He didn't drop a verse on that. But you know what? He didn't drop a verse on that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Shout out to Jada for giving back those clothes to the homeless. When I get back to New York, they're going to give out like, and even everybody in the shirt. I've just seen them do that. All this stuff that you got in your closet. Pull up the truck. Like, shout out to Jada for that initiative. That was dope. I see that on the phone. But Jada had Jigga first. That's what it was. I think you played me Jada. I think that's what it was. And you know, most of my records, most of my records, when they come out, they're not who they were for. Right? Like, bring them out was when Beanie Segu got out of jail. Bring them out. Bring them out. No. Make sense. You know what I'm saying? Make sense. But I thought it was incrafted for T.I. Touch it was for Eve. No, I heard Buster told me that story. He was in touch with us for Eve. DMX didn't like stop drive. You know what I'm saying? Like, so, you know, none of my records really went to the people that I thought they were supposed to. But do you know the impact of that would have did to the city? Yeah, that was like, that was it. It was like, Swiss is it. If you ain't got a Swiss B, like for real, like, it was like at that moment, like, trust me, I want to claim it because I worked with them earlier. Right. Big time. You see what I'm saying? I want to, but I remember that record was just like. I feel like Nori discovered me in the Neptune. Oh, let's make some noise for that. That's right. That's right. Let's not play around with what we have to say. All right. Thank you, Swiss. That's great. And when I say that, like, I was producing other people, but Nori was spreading the word about who I was in a way. I never, I never, I never seen an artist at his level doing that for me. He was the first artist that people came back and like, yo, Nori said we should be in the studio with you. I don't know who we doing. I'm like, yeah, he was like, no, let me just say something about that. Now let me, let me just go back to making him up because he was like 1817 because I'm 39 now. 17, I'm 38. Okay. So yeah, so I ain't even know we that close. Yeah, I'm 39. I love and it was like, you know, he, he a young nigga, but everybody thought I was older anyway. So this nigga paid me nothing. Now we're going to get into the band from TV before the night and what fire like, and I'm talking about that's, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to get into a story. It's going to sound crazy, but look, I developed what, what, because think about not style at that time. He was cool. Think about prodigy style at the time. He was cool. Havoc style, cool. Capone, my own partner. They were cool. And I was like, I'm not really cool. Like, I mean, I'm cool, but I'm not like, I'm like a hyper guy. It suits you. You know, it makes sense. So I needed somebody to compliment that with the energy. So I went there. We don't know. Band from TV was original record. It was supposed to be me and nature. Remember? Wow. And nature, I mean, I had laid a verse and nature couldn't get with the, with the, he had like wrote to some other song and he couldn't write the verse. But then wasn't he on it? No, no, no, no. He's on it. But I'm saying this is the original. It wasn't bad from TV. It was some other thing. Got it. And then, yeah, this is all you. This is all, this is all you. And then the, like the last hour I was like, yo, Nate, I can't just stay here. He was like, let me try another beat. And you still on band from TV. And from that moment on, I never seen a person write a verse so fast. Nature wrote that shit in five months. He, I told him all that shit was electric. Like I'm like, and I'm like, I was mad at all of them. Cause they didn't even let the beat play. It was, they just got back to the intro. They just had like the band from TV. What? The beat you heard from band from TV is just the intro to the beat. They didn't even let the beat drop. They're not gonna let the beat play like that. This is it right here. So they just got looped? The intro got looped. That's band from TV. It was a beat that came after that. Why? You understand? I never understood that guy. Cause look, it was very hard. It hurt my heart. Let me tell you how I remember it, right? That's funny. I had called Punn, cause I figured, let me finish. I had already laid the verse for Nature on a different Swiss beat. So I had called Punn just to hang out. Like, come hang out. Cause Punn never asked to get on from everybody by the way. But we'll get to that, right? So I just called him just to hang out. Hey, what's up? I didn't notice something. So I called him just to hang out. So when Nature came around to the beat, we Swiss switched it. Nature wrote to it real fast. Punn is in the lounge. She's like, I'm going to use the bathroom. The lounge, lay on the couch with a oozing next to her. Oh yeah. Yeah. That was in the beginning. That's why Nature was laying the verse. So this Nature finished laying the verse. Punn went in and snuck in. And this later hurt. I'm not the smartest guy in the world. He just kept looking at me. And when they raced that shit. You going to erase that? I'm like, ah, we not. And I called. That's some pieces of Punn. He body that thing. And who's next? It's Punn. Cam. Cam didn't come that night. Jada Styles? No, Cam did come that night. I got Jada and Styles. And I was just on that talk. Jada and Styles. Yeah, Jada and Styles. And then Cam must have came then. The only people I didn't get was Jada and Ken. Jada and Styles. I got to play that song again. That was so... Do you remember what that record did to the tunnel? It was dangerous. You know, I had to raise in the mouth. Order of protection from you on the tunnel. Because of the ban from TV. Seriously. No, he was blowing up. Order of protection. They was blowing up. Wait, wait, wait. You got an order of protection? The tunnel took an order of protection. No, no, no, no. You don't understand. That's how crazy it was. It was blowing up. That raise the game was crazy. That ban from TV hit. I was with the Bronx at that time. And it was dancing. You know, it was dancing. And listen, pun, man. Whoa. Whoa, whoa. That's pun. That's pun. God bless you, baby. God bless you, boy. You want to rock this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about that. What was the closest memories of pun? Just being on that couch in Sony studio. Yeah, no, it was an electric lady. Electric lady. With the Lucy. But mine's last one was in Sony studio. In the E studio where I was. Because I remember because he was the only person I would let use it. Oh. Because it was easy to get to. Yeah, you owned Sony studio at one time. That was, they built me a room. Like, you know, they, it was good. And you had the room under the ground. And that was the, that was the room. Your phones don't work. That was the, that was the jigger. That was, that was. With Kennapp, you going to do a good, a heck. When you came downstairs, I put the, you came downstairs, I put the voodoo on you. As soon as you walked in there. You remember that scene, right? Steven's in the hallway. You had the desk on you coming out of that room. I was selling you the track. I was charging you crazy money. And you remember that, you happy with a crazy head. That was the attraction. 300,000 attracts. Let's make some noise. I just want to tell you, man, I'm just so proud of you. I've seen you from the beginning. I see, now this is a question I wanted to ask you, because like you said, your uncles was these guys that's in the streets. They start this music business. How was your first approach coming to them and saying, you know what, I want to, I'm a producer. Well, I didn't come to them. They came to me because they was doing some, they were doing some positive and they knew I was doing music and they was like, yo, my aunt was like, your uncle's are starting this positive movement called Rough Riders and you should come up for the summer and then be a part of it. And I went up that summer and never went back to where I, and I never went back to Atlanta from that point. This before was a record, like music movement? This is when it was becoming a label. And my aunt, Siobhan, was like, yo, you know, you're the only one in the family taking music serious. You should come up for the summer and see what it's about. I went up for that summer. That's just a run. It was over. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still moving off that plane taking from New York right now. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like at the end of the day, we all got opportunities. We all got chances. We all got chances. We all got opportunities. It's what we do with it. You understand? Like we could take opportunities for granted, or we can understand that it's a once in a lifetime chance to be great. Are you willing to take that chance? Are you willing to go that far? I was sleeping on floors. I had bruises on my face, my shoulders, my elbows, because I was down hungry to get to where I'm at today. And I still work. Like I have nothing today. You know what I'm saying? Like I've been in me since 9 a.m., which is the reason why I got my shades on in another business. I'm in Harvard Business School right now. I see that accelerating my craft and accelerating, you know, my mental capacity because, you know, this all came to me early. You know, I didn't know what I was doing back then. So I'm like, I'm just starting now because I know what I'm doing now. So I don't gave you 350 million records so worth of not knowing what I'm doing. So imagine what you can do. Imagine what I'm ready to do right now. And I tell people like, sky's not the limit, it's just a view. And you know, the thing is like the hood, we always want excuses of like, why are we not in position? They got me like this. They got me like that. And they want me like this. I don't like, man, figure it out. That same person complaining about something, they didn't look for a job that day, didn't pick up a book that day, didn't look for no inspiration that day. They sit on that stoop like the pot of gold on falling a lap. I'm not messing with none of those type of people. Anybody that's around me, they better have vision. They better have a goal. And it's not just to lean on me because I'm not, we're not doing it. I'm a grown ass man. You're a grown man. You healthy. Get out there and feed your family on your own. God damn, makes me go to shit. God damn. They also say you a castity. Y'all back together. That is dope. Explain that. Well, you know, I put castity on punishment for a little bit because, you know, I come from a place where there's protocol and, you know, there's consequences and there's different things that, you know, can fly and can't fly, you know. I don't act tough in this music thing. I never came off as a threat. But we could be a serious problem. You understand? I'm in here with you. I'm in here with my Bacardi family. It's the Bacardi family. We got that. You're going to get a little Bacardi shot. You understand? Like, I'm not in here with a bunch of goons, a bunch of nothing. Like, I'm comfortable with my skin. And I come with great energy. I come with positive intentions. I don't come in here to funnel nobody, stun nobody. I'm in here dressed just like everybody in here because, like, you know what? We all call it a Haitian hat. We respect you. That thing. I caught the Haitian hat right there. A little Haiti right now. A little Haiti right now. Tapas say, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to my Haitian crew. I went out there to Haiti. You know, I did a great initiative there. I did the biggest event there for freeing for the people. 300,000 people showed up. And I noticed they didn't make the news, but there wasn't one stabbing, one shooting, one fight, all love. And I just hate that. That didn't make the news. One person was going to get a drink chance, and they go, make a noise. Oh, he got this. All right, I'm in. Tapas say. Tapas say. I'm in. I'm not gonna lie. Cartier straight. It's good, man. I'm a cold shot guy. Okay, well, let's get some ice in this shit. Let's get some ice in it. Look at the Swiss on his business. That is good, man. Hit me later. You know, but, like, for me, one thing about Bacardi is, like, you know, running all 300 brands in the company as the global creative director, I'm not paying nobody to hold up no bottles. I don't even like that for our culture. You know, in no disrespect to no other brand, everybody got to do it how they do it. But one thing that we're doing at Bacardi is we're investing directly into the people. Buy the artist for the artist with the people. The fact that we can stay in three shows, we gave back $3 million. That's incredible. That's like, that's for real paper. Let's make a difference paper. That's make a difference paper. The fact that we're interacting and... You're gonna be a friend with a portable line. Go ahead, boy. Is that you for now, sure. Sure. But, like, you know, this is an educational platform as well. And I never thought that, excuse me, the creatives and a brand can mix together because they're two selfish things. The artist want to be selfish on their side and the brand want to be selfish on their side. But the thing that we created with my partnership with Bacardi is an equal agenda of just doing great things. And this is artist-based? So, like, like, this, like, my mean, like, paintings, like, things like that? Yeah, no commissions is global. You know, we just, our last show was in London. I've seen London. Yeah, we got Berlin this year, Dubai, you know, we're going to LA, you know, we're coming back to Miami, you know, we're looking at Shanghai. You know, this is a global tribute to... Now, let me ask you something, right? If I want to buy art... There we go. How do I go about buying art? Call your brother. Like, I'm just saying to, like, the people, not me per se, but me per se, but not now. But, like, let's suppose a dude wants to invest into some art. What should he look for? What should he do? First and foremost, you know, a lot of people think that art is just for rich people. And that's why no commissions is great, because we created the entry point. You know, there was people that was able to come to no commissions and get things for a couple of hundred dollars, a couple of thousand, or a couple of hundred thousand. You understand? And so, you know, we created the entry point, so, you know, the miscommunication with art is, how am I a part of that? If I go in a gallery and everything's twenty thousand, but I got four thousand. So, being that I don't got that twenty thousand, you don't want to talk to me, I can't be a part of this? I don't like that story. So, we created a new story to where you could be living with your mother and participating in no commissions. You can be on your way up and just trying to figure it out and participate. You can be the biggest of the biggest and participate. And the key thing is the entry point for the millennials because art is something that saved people's lives. Art is a different type of communication. You understand? Like, everybody can communicate on an academic level, but you might have that person right there that can paint something so amazing, that can be a videographer, a photographer, you know, and just create something and bring something extra to the world. And that's the platform that I built that made me very dangerous to the art business and the galleries and different things like that because I created the entry point. I took away the stigmatism of... So, you say because I'm in Kanye, I could sort of say like when he was trying to, you know, migrate from being like just the artist to like to this clothing field, like he felt like he wasn't being respected. You're saying that's the opposite with you when you go into the art field because you're just basically giving. You know, when you look at art and artists, we come from an industry called music. Art. Which is art. And we just bring it down to the basic levels. When everybody deal with us, no matter how good the deal seems, there's always somebody hand in our pockets. Left, right, backside, there's a hand in our pockets. So we might feel that we have the freedom, you know. In Harvard, the professor said the illest... I was like, I can't believe that the way we being... The way that the art, the industry is being dealt with, they was actually taught to do that. The professor said, if you want them to work harder, make them feel like they own something. I was like, hmm, he said example, you know you have two dollars, give them one dollar. But you know you got two dollars in your budget. Give them one dollar first. Here go your one dollar, do your job. Let them work for a week. After that week, you walk up to him, he's walking in the yard or wherever he's walking, you walk up to him and say, man, you've been doing a great job. Here goes another dollar. What have you already owned? What was supposed to be given to you? The second dollar was in the budget. But what are you going to do after the boss tell you you was on your A game, here go another dollar. Work harder. You're going to be like, oh, I'm on my grind, I'm on my... I'm ready to go. The boss came up to me, he told me, I'm my run this company. So you're going to go harder just because the way that was done. And I was like, damn, that sounds like the label deal. It's a mind game. Give them a label, bring in the artist cheaper, make them feel like they own something because if you own something, you're going to say, I got this artist here, but he can't charge me too much because I'm a partner in this and this is my label. But are you a partner? Do you have veto rights? Are you on the board meetings? Are you really a part of this industry? No, the fuck out of here. Those are fake. Those are smoking, those are smoking mirrors. Tell me a person that had a label, did that been to a major label? Board meeting. You're in a board meeting, then we're talking about ownership. You talking about that, are you saying like the Rockefellers, the Rumpers, the old type of label, cash money, I'm talking about everybody. I'm talking about, you know, if you were a university, are you at the board meeting out of a Vendee? With the distributors? The board meetings. The board meetings, the people that had said, if you agree with this, say hi. Are you a part of those meetings? I'm a part of those meetings now, so I know how they go. But if we're not a part of those meetings, and the ownership doesn't mean anything, it's a smoking mirror. Make them feel like they own something, and they'll work harder. You understand? Why no musicians have their own yachts, or they own 757s, and then you look at other industries of people that's doing 5% of the work that they're doing, because this business is not set up for artists to win. So you have to understand when it's your time to get off the teddy and go live your own dream. Like, we want to be pacified, and we want to be rewarded at the same time. It doesn't work like that. I retired from music when I made On to the Next one. I wrote that song as my retirement song, which was my last Grammy, because I was mentally on to a next platform. Let's make some noise for that Grammy. He sent that Grammy in there, and I agreed and he said, God damn it, continue. And I just think that we got to be mentally ready to make any step that we feel is life changing to ourselves. I don't care about the fear, I don't care about the politics, because look man, life is full of politics. Look who our president is. Look at what we're dealing with right now. But the truth of the matter is, we had to deal with something with every president, since Reagan. Since Reaganomics. This ain't nothing new. This ain't nothing but a recycling of the system, but how you treat your own system mentally and spiritually is on you. We prepare for any war. That's why we still around to even talk about this shit. We've been what's supposed to be going, everybody in this room. You understand? You think the digital age though, level the playing field, as far as you're talking about. Just in general, artists start to invent the labels and just straight to consumer. Well, the reason why I like the digital aspect of where we are today is because it gives the independent life. Life. And before we was trapped into one way or nothing. Now if you really got your hustle on, like my brother and you guys here, you can go viral and start something. Imagine if this form that we own right now didn't exist. Let me kind of stop you for one second because I understand exactly where you're going. But if you're an older artist, I'm talking about with just music, does the streaming level the playing field? Because just think about it. Like when you're a new artist, you can drop a record and not pay for radio, not pay for nothing. And the new artist buzz is going to get people to play a record because they don't want to be late on the new shit. But when you're an artist that's been around for 15, 20 years and you drop something, you might not get the same... You know what I'm saying? So does streaming, like on the radio I'm saying, so does streaming level the playing field? Or does it flat line it? You know, that depends on the artist. Yeah, straight up. You understand? A lot of artists are not real with themselves. You understand? They're going to push something out. That's just not that time to put what they're putting out. So the results that they're getting out is what it is. I don't care who you are, where you from. You got a hot show, it's popping, it's on. Right decisions. If you are an artist, no matter who you are, if you got that record and you got that right direction, you don't have to do no work. A hit song requires no work. It goes organically and the people feel that and that resurgence of that spreads. But if you're disgruntled and jealous and living in a time that we know we're not in and you're not gauging your views and your vibes of right, then you don't get the results you want. Who fault is that? Yours. Not the people, because the people just want to have fun. They're not even caring who's saying what and what. It could be whoever. It's specialty right now. As long as it's you. Yes, and who's saying both could put out a song with the right dance and the right beat and it could go. So nobody had any issues. Who's saying sign the drink chance in case you're thinking about that. Click cloud. But continue. I think also the definition of a hit record is changing. Because there's artists that you might not even know that have successful careers, because they go and direct to consumer. Because like right now, like right now, right, you know, you've worked with the greats, Eminem, Jay-Z, DMX, Nori. I can't even, like Kanye, Kanye. 550 songs. You know, so now a new guy comes on your beat. Pause. The way I said that. That wasn't right. Say it again, say it again. That's in there right there. I'm a homestay for him. But now, you know, somebody calls you, he gets on your beat and he's like, that's a homer. That's it right there. But he's killing it, but you won't even know what he's saying. How the fuck is he killing it? You can't understand what he's doing. No, but this nigga's out there that's killing it. I don't understand what they're saying, but to me, they still killing. I'm like, what the fuck? You just like the rhythm of what they're saying. I dig something on my rap. Let me tell you something. When you hear my record, those people you're talking about, watch how I check their passports out the door. And it was a breath of fresh air because I witnessed that people are doing what they're doing because of a fad. I'm like, you're hiding all of this talent because you think that's what they want to hear. When you hear these verses clearly that you're going to hear, I was like, bro, you mean you could have did this the whole time? You're going, there's really talented people in that space of what we feel that's not talent. I've witnessed it and you're going to witness it too very soon. You're going to be like, that's who? Yeah, that's him. And that's who? Yeah, that's him too. Because I just wanted to challenge people to do something different because what they're applying in their life is great. But the challenge that I'm going to, I want to challenge them to apply just in the atmosphere is different. I don't want what you have already. I dare you to do this. And when I dare them to do that, I'm like, 100 points on the board. You know what Tiger Bone is? You know how much time I spent in Jamaica? I just feel like, you know how much time I spent in China. He knows exactly what it is. China and Jamaica. I just don't need it. I got five kids, bro. We drink that because we celebrating you tonight. We got 20 years work ahead. Come on, you do the rest. Listen, do we got to deal with Tiger Bone? No, no, no, no. We should check our own joints. No, no, listen to what we're doing. Because you know why? Because I know I got to check it for Bacardi right now. We're going to dance. Tiger Bone, Bacardi in this joint. Let's do it. It's nobody's competition. But I know that you've been Tiger Bone in this thing out in here. Yeah, because it's a beautiful thing. How? Because in level spellback, it's this level. We're kind of early. Where's the Gugang Choo? I got to bring the Gugang Choo. I'm going to take it. And big up the veggie. Now I always take off my jacket for the Tiger Bone. It's hot. If you didn't get the locks out, you can get the locks out right now. You have to lock style five. Jadakisshi, you can't do that. You need me to do it? Wait till I hit up. Lock style two. Another lock style coming. Because I heard when you said the lock style came out on rock nation, you was cool, didn't you? You just didn't want to see them throwing up the rock side. I got in a lot of trouble for that. Why? What happened? You know, I was honestly with all due respect, I was wrong for saying that on a national broadcast about my brothers. What would you say that? I was talking a little reckless. It was on shade four or five? Let's toast. Come here. Hold on. Hold on. Take off your glasses for that. Tiger Bone, we're having a little this guy's name. This is a change of the name. I like that you got a tan, though. I like that you got a tan. I'm perfect in Miami test. I don't know. I got a permanent in Miami test, but I don't know. I like you in Miami. You look good, bro. Yo, he went to Kendall. Remember for the video too. You came to office in Kendall, must do you? What was the song? Set it off. Set it off. When Laurie hit his new thing I made for him, I got a new song. Listen, I'm talking about Goddamn. Let's keep it through. I'm talking about Goddamn. Yo, so I got in trouble. Uh-huh. Styles speak hard of me because you know he's a savage other group. Don't ever talk our name like that. Wait, when you said, uh, wait. Damn. What would you do like this shit? Yo, I spit it out. In my mind, my hand was up there. I don't know why. It felt like I just violated myself. I'm sorry. Styles, be cold. Because I was, as a man, I can admit when I'm wrong. And out of 20-something years with the locks, it was the first time I was wrong. What? I was... I spoke about the incident on Shade 4-5. Spoke about what? The incident. I spoke about how it felt about Kisthon of the Rock sign and... Yeah, I witnessed him throw it up. Oh, I never knew that. Yeah, I seen him throw it up. It's public information. And the reason why I had a problem with it was because I was around for... I was around for everything. I knew that how hard it was to fight for it, for what we had. And I knew that my great friend Jay would never throw up a rough ride a son, no matter what deal he would ever do. Because of the girl he owned. Just because, like, you know, you know, my own friends and I put a lot of time into changing people's lives. They put a lot of times into changing people's lives and they put their lives on the line for changing people's lives. So naturally, I'm gonna be emotional when I see something that's other than where it all come from. Naturally. So naturally, I overreacted when that question was brought up to me. I was like... What was the question asked of you? What do you think about the locks with with Rockefeller? And I said, I think that is a great deal. Which I do. Because they work hard to even have this type of outlet. The fuck is they doing? What the hell? What's up? Mr. Lee, you got no control. That's not even Mr. Lee. That's Mr. Chee. You know what I'm saying? They master this. They work hard to even be able to put out that type of album in 2016-17. I think that's a great deal. 2016-17. And I was wrong for expressing that on that public outlet. Even though I called a couple of group members a couple of times, if I couldn't reach them I should have deaded it. I was a little nice. Like I am now. We got you. But I'm the most honest one. I'm nice. Which is what it is. Ms. Biff TV told me you had war paint on your face and you don't need to try to get a verse from you. Because I really be on that other shit, Nory. You know what? I'm not scared to express it. I'm into the art life. So sometimes I paint my face and sometimes I just throw the shades on and just be on my coolly. You see that hat I got on Sapphire City. But Stiles and you worked it out. Of course we worked it out. Because at the end of the day Stiles had every right to call me and be on that vibe. I was in the airport in Shanghai and he texted me the file that's message M. I was laughing. I mean I make it a joke because this is something serious. And I listened to what he said. And he had good points. And as a man anybody watching this as a man if you're in the wrong you got to take that charge. Take that charge. I was wrong. I won't do that again. My bad. The ego is the killer. A lot of people let the ego mislead them in life. I know that I could never go to war with the locks. Even though their first name was the warlocks. Right? Those are my brothers. We're never going to have a confrontation for the industry to sit back and watch the legacy that we worked hard for. Burned because of some small time thing. We really was in these streets for real. I loved them. We are the streets was the first I put my life in. It just turned 17. I know. It's a mix of noise. We're God damn it. It's a real big birthday. You're not going to put your head for it. He violated me. You know I'm so used to it. Bang! Listen, I'm so used to it. It was seven seconds later. I said, oh, I'm so used to it. That's how you know I'm so used to it. It's very bold. Shout out to Styles P. Jadakiss. Chic Luciano. I love you all. We never dare to have no problems. Some of the realest dudes we had on Drink Chance as well. Let's get into some real questions. Let's get into some real... Conducer questions. Whatever we want to do. Let's go. I'm here to make the ratings go up. I'm going. So when you and Kanye West battle on stage. Damn. Stakes for you. I love that moment. Describe that moment. Was that put together? Was that like spirit of moment? You and Kanye. This is the craziest nigga in life. In his life. But this before he got crazy. He was like sane at this time. I respect Kanye for taking that battle because you know, a lot of producers turned down that moment. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom. So you're saying this was your whole idea? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, in New York City. I was leading Summer Jam, of course. So this was orchestrated. I've never knew this. I've never knew this. You've been, you've asked people to do this before the time is running out. No, no, no. We don't have time. We're not ready. We just started. We just got a story message. I'm going to make this go. You want another set of Bacardi? No, I got my cup right here. Let's do shots. I don't do like drinking like us, man. What does that mean, bro? Like I mean, I could. This party is doubling up on me. So, okay. So you had this idea for a producer. You know, because when I look at Summer Jam, I notice that a lot of the performing artists musically got to shine. And the producers was always behind those big hit records that these artists were able to go on stage and do their thing to. So I said, you know what, let's play homage to the producers. And Summer Jam is very controversial. So I said, you know what? Let's make it a battle where I'm talking shit and then whoever come out and challenge me to me talking shit with their greatest couple of hits. And I give them my greatest couple of hits. And we gave the people a show that was respectable and they paid homage to producing. Everybody turned down the request. Except for Kanye and I give him. No names that you could say that turned it down? Who else would you name him? The premiere turned it down? Nah, I'm not challenging the premiere. You're right. I understand. You're dropping. Like he dropped that New York State of mind. You're not gonna say it. I'm not. One track. Just Blaze. Pete Rock? No, you know you're going way too far. Why am I going way too far? He dropped Reminisce on me. What the fuck am I going to do? Who said Just Blaze? He said Just Blaze. I reached out to Just Blaze. Just Blaze is talented. I think Just Blaze could probably beat me today because I'm not really thinking about it but if I thought about it I'd probably give him a little bit of a run for his money. When you saying battle when you saying battle are you saying hits y'all? At that time it was hits. Right, so imagine he came with how the crowd reacts to it. Like the whole step. Yeah. But I got something for that too. I got something for that. People got to understand like I used to make what were we doing? Okay, okay, okay, okay. Let me just tell you something. It's good. Love, love, love, love, love. Love. Let's welcome twin and I. Yeah! What the fuck? You know what I'm saying? Twin got that fade. I need you to borrow his number. I'm telling you something. I'm good at coming in with his pretty boy shit. I'm gonna tell you something. You know what I'm saying? Moving in on us all crazy. Let me tell you something. Twin was the star. One of the stars of this show. You know some a fatal, I don't know. Something unfortunate happened. Unfortunate accident happened. He's here today so it's fortunate. And you know what? We are so proud to see twin here right now. Yo, somebody give twin a mic please. And just let him not have eight. Two. No. No. No. Hey man. Two weeks ago I was drink champ's family or me. Thank you for all the prayers. I appreciate it man. Appreciate all the love other support. The prayers been working cause I'm getting better and I'm alive. I'm here. I could have been six feet under. But I'm here. And I can keep moving forward. And even though I don't walk again I'm still living, you know what I mean? Nah, I'm living. I still hope, man. You know what I'm saying? We got you. You're gonna walk again, motherfucker. I'm here. Are you crazy? Are you crazy? All right, cool. Let's hold hands and give a little blessings. We thank you for Twin being here with us today and in life form and in real form. And we thank you for protecting him and guiding him and getting him to this level of being conscious and being in love. And we never forget all the prayers, all the deeds that has been done today. And waking up this morning is just a plus. In your name we pray, amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Jesus. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. Thank you. That was real shit right there. That was emotional and shit. Yeah, me too. Yeah, it was real. Seriously. Nah, that's Twin. That's our little brother right here. That's our little brother. Motherfucker. It's my brother too. Damn, but listen. Cause we very scared. We don't, you sure you want to stay right there? Yeah. He's good, he's good. But you know, usually I ask you to take a shot for something but it's not to that. You don't want to stay healthy today. We love Twin. Being here is a shot right now. Yeah, that's right. But okay, so now, so where is it? I'm ready. What's up? So we're going to take it. But you was getting into the battles and you was talking about who to shoot. We got to complete that story. So he says, you know, we're trying to find out who he is. He said, just Blaze. Yeah, who he is. I asked Timberland, I asked Raelle. Oh, Timberland. Okay. I battle any one of them today too. That's what it was like. Let's dance. So Kanye stepped up? Kanye stepped up to the plate. Okay, he was a gangsta. Just grab this moment. You know, he was like, What Kanye is this now? Definitely don't got blah here. Let's keep it. Got the backpack on? No, he had a backpack. The backpack. That's backpack Kanye. I know. What was his? Big G's piece. Okay. Red, Louis Vuitton, Louis Vuitton, sneaker Kanye. There was one on there. Is Jesus walks? College dropout. Nice before G's walk. Is it? Around that time I think it was. He was hot Kanye. Yeah, he was hot. He was cayenne pepper Kanye. Right, right. Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye. Kanye, Kanye. But I respect that. I gave him the concept. And he was just like, All right, let's make it fresh. So. And the craziness fly was like, he came, I told him my playlist. He told me his playlist. I kept my playlist and he changed his place. I was like, You sure you don't want it? Because like, I didn't, it wasn't about no big eyes and little youth. No, but what point he changed his playlist? Oh, when it was showtime. Oh, right before the set. Showtime. I heard songs that he didn't present. I was like. So y'all both knew what songs y'all was gonna play. Each of y'all. I told him I never changed what I was gonna play because I just wanted to play what I was gonna play. And the songs that he picked before I thought was stronger. You know, because I didn't want it to be like, a big eye little youth thing. I wanted him to be great and I wanted me to be great. And he was great. But you know, I think the selection that we first had was better. You know, right? Because it's not like, you know, me going on the summer jam stage and showing off on another person because that man is talented. Yeah. He's a genius. You know, he, he, a massive, his craft. Just like Timberland, Dr. Dre, Pharrell, Just Blaze, all the producers. They're massive, they own crafts. And the one thing I do miss about music is that, you know, we all had different things to bring to the table. You know, when you heard that sound, it was a different sound totally. Not about a bounce. Right. We came, we felt like we wanted to come with it. You know, and there's a couple of new producers that's doing that and I respect them all. Like a signature sound? Yeah, there's a couple of producers owning it. And there's a couple of people that has taken advantage of the technology. But Swiss Beasts is about to make an album right now. Tomorrow. The album is done. I'm asking. That's shit done. And the label says, we're going to hire some new dudes. Who is Swiss Beasts going to hire? Producer wise. I'm not scared of new dudes. I got new dudes on my team. I respect new dudes. No, I'm saying like, when I say my bad, let me rephrase the question. They saying, go get some, like the, the producers that's trending now. Because the producers, who is Swiss going to say, you know what? What producers you like now? Let's basically. Yeah. But if you make an album, because you know, let's be honest, you're artists too. There's a lot of new producers that I like. You know, I'm not stuck in my past. You know, a lot of producers get stuck in their past and they don't really respect somebody. You need a goddamn VIXX. Goddamn it. Relax. That, that they get. We got a lot. This is the newest, I think, episode ever. You can't smoke it. Sound like we got construction in the background. But my headphones done blocked them out already. I didn't hear everything. Gee, that's awesome. It sound like we're building something back. Who is, who is, if they say, now we say, you, you got three people. No, no, no, let's say five. So you got five people to, to, to, to pay other than you to finish your album right now. No, no, I love you. I'm bad with names, bro. That's just, I admit to it. I'm bad with names. I like Mike Will. I like Metro Boomin. You know, you could say the song that you like the producer of such a song. I like Mike Will. I like Metro Boomin. I like Boy Wonder. You know what I'm saying? Boy Wonder, Boy Wonder. You know, Avery, you know, it's a lot of, you know, Ty's, Snags. I like everybody that's being creative. This isn't, this, you know, you gotta think about this, like, right? What? There's a lot of people that's doing music that could have been robbing our kids and our mothers and our brothers and our cousins. As long as people doing something positive. Kind of like what DMX said too. He's kind of said the same thing. Well, shout to the dog. But so you're not gonna, you're not gonna call Dr. Dre? That's not a new producer. Yeah, man, you just, you just switched it up on me. I'm calling Dr. Dre for the DM. Might as well call Premier too, man. I'm not a lot of questions. How about a line with my question? Yeah, you're a left. You said you. You were going right. I said new producer. I'm sorry. Let's continue with the new producer. I respect all the new producers. Anybody that's doing something positive with music is just like art. It's an expression. You can relate to it or you can. That's why there's different genres of music, different genres in art and different genres and everything that we face in this world. I'm not gonna sit here and play around with none of those producers because, they all got a little bit of influence. And myself, Timberland, whoever you wanna name, we are part of their DNA whether we like it or not. They took a part of what we did and created themselves. It's a foundation. So if I dis them, I'm technically dising myself. Right. They just on another platform and see another stage that they gotta perform on. That doesn't deplete my stage. That just like, it's a compliment of each other. You understand? And what I have to do, the things that I don't like, I have to fix. So in my album, I'm like bars. What's the name of the album? Let's make a public service announcement. I don't know the name of the album. I ain't even think about no name. I just thought about like fucking up everything. That's the name of the album. I'm sorry. But now, let's take it to the first rough ride album. The rough ride of compilation? Yeah. Okay. That was hard. Why did that? Is there a difference from compilation in the album? Well, because it wasn't an artist. The rough ride, the first rough ride was a compilation. The first rough ride of album was DMX. So the first rough ride of album. Multiple artists. The first unglamorative, multiple artists, up and coming, known, not known. That's when people heard Beanie's first hard verse. It was on that album. That's when people heard Infrared and Cross. That's when people heard Eve. That's when people heard Drag On. That's when people got exposed to a lot of things that wasn't really out there yet. You know what I'm saying? And so, you know, which one is one? That first album. What was it? Because there were all separate entities. You had all these separate groups, but now they're saying a compilation album. Well, we had no separate groups. And I never even knew what a compilation was before I did that album. I just knew that we was making an album with the family. And we was taking everybody's verses and putting outsiders on them to fill up the space. You know, I was too young to understand what was a compilation, not a compilation. I didn't give a fuck what it was. I just wanted to produce the best shit. As long as it's coming out. And make the people feel good. And I was hungry. I was thirsty. I was going up against Grease. I was going up against PK. I was going up against, you know, Young Lord. I was going up against a lot of producers at that time that, you know, spunk bigger. A lot of producers that had a lot of recognition. And I just wanted to make the best music I could make. And then when I looked up, I had like 90% of that done. And then I seen, I looked up, I had 90% of the locks album done. 90% of E done. 90% of X next album done. And, you know, I just wanted to go hard. You know what I'm saying? Now why are you and Grease saying that we're like, work together? Work together. That's a touchy situation. You know, we grown men now. I never knew why Grease had a problem with me. Because, you know, my uncle, when I went to Atlanta, my uncle was like, you know, I got a couple of producers that I want to continue the movement while you're gone. And he took me to Young Lord's house. And he took me to Grease's house. And when he took me to Young Lord's house, I seemed like a real stable environment. And I was like, no, Young Lord got like a great, he got a great foundation. I went to Grease. We ended up spending a bill on him. Like, damn, he might need it more than Young Lord. So I picked Grease to be the producer at that time when I wasn't available. And competition naturally turns into what it turns into. You know what I'm saying? But you know, I'm going to just keep it positive. I done did a lot of things. He did a lot of things. You know, he hasn't spoken by my name since I handed the last situation. And I'm going to just say blessings to him and thank you for what he contributed to the rough out of family. No suckers shit, you know what I'm saying? His block, no. Let me start. Easy. OK. I don't know where. Let's keep it positive. Let's keep it positive. I'm going to keep it positive. It's positive. It's all positive. I just always, you know, I always just noticed that, you know, he brought this. He was there for them very, very, very, very good. That's all. That's all. I always just thought. We, I kind of like the mean Greece back and forth, you know, because. That's competition. It just felt good. Production wise you talking about. Whatever. Whatever. My dog had a fight with his dog. Oh, you talking about real dogs? No, we really had, we really had problems. Oh, you talking about real people. People or dogs? Pit bulls. Dogs. Pit bulls. Oh, real bulls. Me and Greece went back to like, his dog had a, you know, we had dogs. You had problems too? Got them. It's like, they don't get no better than that. And then, you know, we. We took my people. Animals. Animals. Unless I'm wrong. I'm talking, he, let him tell you, you know. I don't know now. I'm lost. How the fuck does he? Let him tell you. And then we eventually got into it and we had to handle it like men. And, um. What ever do that? I respect him as a man. Right. And I respect him and respect me as a man. I agreed to never talk to, talk on his name negative. And he agreed never to talk on my name negative. And if that was done, then we just deal with the consequences. But that was the deal that we made. So I can't believe in him on this show today. And talk about that man negative. I respect him. He made a lot of hits for dog. He's a great producer. He put Harlem on the map. He put a lot of people on the map. He went with Big L as well, right? All that. You know, my dad managed Big L. You understand? Big L's my favorite. You know, he, my dad. My dad is serious. Wow. My dad was a part of what my dad started. He was a part of Cool Herk. Oh, shit. Him and Cool Herk was neighbors upstairs, downstairs. So those were beginning parties. My dad was a part of those parties. I never even said that shit publicly. Oh, now you did. André Chance. Seriously. You're leaving him. You're starting a hit, Pa. That was, aw. Let's just make some noise for that. D.D. Lamb Lily. So now, so now. When is the moment where Swiss is like, um, um, um that nigga? Because we all went crazy. I went crazy. Mines is like 1998. I think it's probably because of Banford TV. But I'm not going to save my eyes because it's your interview. Like, what is the, like, what is the, like, I mean, not, not crazy. I'm just saying, what is the part where you said, damn, I made it. Because the thing about. Exactly when that was. Yeah. Tell us, tell us, tell us. Um, you know, when I got into music, I never understood that it was a business. I never understood that it made billions. I never understand that it saved so many people from the street life that we was living. It was just something that I lived and seen every day growing up in the South Bronx and then migrating back and forth to Harlem. You know, it was something that we were playing on MPVs, Land Cruisers, you know, Nordic vans. It was just, it was just a way of life naturally. And, you know, when I was doing music, you know, I was already counting millions on the weekends, you know, and I hated money because it was, it was, it was messing up my funk. You know, I was counting money on the weekends, millions of dollars because of the, because of the business that half my team was in. And so I never really cared about the money thing like that. All the iceberg, Jaco Bichard, Nordica, all those things that was being passed down to me. I never had to really buy those things. Pascal Wushak. Yeah. All of that. I don't speak English. You know what I'm saying? All that. So, you know, I was, I was brought up fresh. I grew up in the hood, Jackson Avenue, 700 department 2E. I can't say that I had a bad time. For Faby. You know what I'm saying? For Faby. I'm from. I'm 2E. He's 5E. I'm 5E. Okay. But what burger is this? It's all the same shit. Don't mind that. He's from the Bronx. He's from the Bronx. Okay. So I'm asking you, I'm from the Bronx. I know where you're from. I can't say that I had a bad time in the hood. It's bad as the hood was. Like I never had a bad time. Like I really, I really had like a lot of fun. Right. I really, I really miss all my friends that are not here to celebrate, drink champs with us today or not able to see their freedom. Is that another Bacardi shot? I feel like it's a little bit more. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's celebrate all the niggas in my head. Great. Shout out to everybody that's not here to celebrate tonight. Yo, I can't believe Bacardi. Listen, I drink the whole bottle with y'all. No, we're going to finish the bottle. We're going to Lizzy. I supposed to go to 11 after this. 11? Turn it up. Turn it up. Turn it up. Alright. Go back to it. Hang on. Put it down. My brother. 11? You know. I'm going to be honest. I don't know. This is a problem right now if you're going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. It tastes like Puerto Rico. But it comes from Cuba. At least your tan match. It is from Puerto Rico. It is from Puerto Rico now. I'm going to tell you why. Because every time I eat French fries in Puerto Rico, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, French fries in Puerto Rico is a little bird. It's come on. Yo, what's up with French fries and Puerto Rico? I went to Taco Bell and they had French fries. You never eat no French fries in Puerto Rico. You went to Taco Bell in Puerto Rico. And they had French fries in Robert. They were going to fucking toggle it off. No, just saying. Yo, come on. Everybody tell them not to go to Taco Bell in Puerto Rico. I'm a nice and Puerto Rican. I ain't never eaten no fries in Puerto Rico. We can't have that. No. They have fried fries in Puerto Rico. In Puerto Rico, this is little black birds. You know these little birds? They're fucking nuisance. I know who you're talking about. They don't need us to be like, hey, hey, hey. And they're coming straight over here. I'm going to come right over here to you. You ain't fucking with that. But where was we at? Where did we end off? I was really about to get into this. You was, man. This is where Drink Chance fucks up. This is where Drink Chance fucks up. This is our downfall right now. But you know why? Because we salute the legends. We salute what we got to do. So now. Now you were talking about where you grew up. The apartment. Because we were going off of your family. And cool hurrican and all that. I just burped some shit. I was like, that's all of a car. Man, I was just waiting for you to do the car thing. Your breath smells amazing right now. My breath did smell good when I burped it. I said, oh. You were like, I like it. It's nice. It's Bobby. It's Bobby. It's Bobby. It's Bobby. I was like, I'm going to go. Shout the bust around right now. I'm going to go. Bust around and hit me like, are you on the show yet? Yes. Shout the bust around. We need bust up back, man. We had it for 2.5 seconds. Yeah. He did that quick. No, no, no. It was quite a bit longer than that. It was a top album. Got it. Hit number one. So we need just the bust. Congratulations. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you need bust. He wanted it. You ready to go. And that's what we want to do, Swiss. We want to continue to salute the people that's been out here doing it. A lot of people criticize us sometimes. They say, why don't you interview the new niggas? And I say, I got love for the new niggas. I listen to this shit. But I don't got new stories. Like when I sit here and we talk about ban from TV right now, you told me your own perspective of ban from TV. Yeah. Or did you fully get into your own perspective of ban from TV? I'm going to say something on that. You know, we got to always be students. I'm a student again. And I would love to see you challenge the new people at this show. I would love to start a march when we renew the contract. Did I say, oh, you're out. You're out the ban quick. CTC, cut the check. Cut the check. At the march. You want it? The new niggas? Absolutely. I've been ready for this. In fact, I don't try to have a secret conversation about me until tomorrow. I got to interview the new niggas. Continue to Swiss. I'm so sorry. I just like that. You know what? It's not about new, old, dissonant. It's about content. Content kings. Content kings. Content kings. Good content. Good content. Yeah, but it's curated. So when they come in, y'all going to make the good content. So with this platform you have, y'all can change everything that you might disagree with. But you just called us curated? Are we curated? Not curated. That's what it's called. We are curated. I never did. I never did. I never did. How you going to lie? That's the pro-Icet. When niggas say you're curated, that means you put together. You know what I'm saying? Slug. Curator is less. In my mind. Curator is that thing. Right? What does that mean to you? Drink chance sports. Come over here. What does that mean to you? Drink chance sports. Drink chance sports. Drink chance sports. Right? You think about it on your own mind. I definitely don't believe you. Let me ask you something. How much of this interview is going to be shown? Everything. Everything. Thank you. Your fucking style. That's how we do. Your fucking style. Don't hold nothing out. We don't do anything. Nothing. Nothing. It's just gold? It's gold. Everything. It's my job. So where is it? I hate wasting my time. No, no, no. None of this will be wasted. None of this. I hate wasting old time. Absolutely. Tell you something about Swiss. I think Swiss is crazy. He is 100%. Let me tell you something. He was probably one of the first producers I said I wanted. I want something like this. And he just makes it like this. Like, premiere or make it. But you got to get premiere and rhyme. Premier would do the same thing. I want to be like this. And then premiere would be like give me the rhyme. I would be like Swiss. I want to be like this. And Swiss would be like me and like this. And just be looking at you. I like it. You're like Swiss. Is this it? And you're like Swiss. Is this it? And you're like I'm coming in the mood. Yo, like are you still like that? Like I remember I used to beatbox it to you. And you used to be like what? You know what? I just have fun doing what I'm doing. Anybody want to problem? Come dance. Come dance all night. When I was making 50 beats a night. And keeping six. Literally deleted the rhyme. You know it's all about your work ethic. And it's all about your dedication. Don't play around with something that you don't feel. Don't worry about what nobody else feels. If you don't feel it, it don't go. You understand? And when I was making those beats for you and everybody else in the world. Which I was blessed to gather my hood from. And provide my family a lifestyle from. It came from a non-fair. You understand? I don't know what that means. A non-fair meaning not fairing the results of failing. Like a lot of people are scared with this one thinks or that one thinks. But it's like you know what? I give a fuck about what my family think. A lot of those people that want to judge you on what they think. They just wish you for the fake rhyme. Like let something not go down right. You don't want to be gone. Fake friends. Family is important. If you don't got family around you, you might be in trouble. Family is everything. I was protected to own my rights and publishing and things like that. Because the rough ride of family was literally my family. And I watched a lot of people come up. And do the biggest things that history can never repeat again. And noodles might be their meal. Just because of that false trust. And just because of that false judgment. Listen man, you know sky is not the limit. It's just a view. What song I said that I don't know? I don't have text to my tone. I don't have a bit of it. Sky is not the limit. It's just a view. Every star we see, there's millions of galaxies around that. Definitely. Just because we can't see past the sky. Why should the skies be out of limits when there's footprints on Mars? Don't box us in. Sky is not the limit. It's just our view. Because we know that there's life in a billion of forms beyond that. And once you start getting that mentality, you just got to go. You understand? I'd rather help people than hurt people. Let me ask you something. 1998 is the best year of my life. Damn. I think 2017 is. No, no, no. It's the best year of my new life. Okay, I like that. That's a clean life. But the best year of my first life. I had 97 because of the war report. You had a couple of them. I was selling drugs during the war report. And it was terrible because people told me my album was classic, but I was selling three for five. I'm not little. It did not identify with me. But 1998, best year of my life. Because of? We had the craziest records. And you described that year for you. I mean, it's the best year of my life. 1998 was the beginning of my madness. I was young, no facial hairs, no hope, no guidance. You didn't drink back then, neither. I started drinking at 30 and smoking at 30. Cigars, weed, that is. Me too? I haven't been drinking it the whole time. I didn't want to. I don't smoke weed every day. Weaning cigars on occasional vacations. This is how it's going to be in a very festival. He's got gold weed in his hand. And a boat with water and jet skis in front of him. There's a gold cigar. No, I'm good. I'm good. Matter of fact, give me a hit. I'm good. I've never smoked before. I've never smoked before. That makes it a lot of 20 years of experience. What is this gold papers? What is it called? What is it called? First and foremost, shout out to Ali. Big up to Ali. He's a conscious guy. I watched him protect the dog in a way. Nobody might ever do that again. I watched him put in his hard work, dedication. I watched him support Nari. That man is anointed in a way that's just different. Ali is just different. They don't make him... If you don't understand him, you can look past him. But you need to look at him. Shout out to Ali. Big up to Ali. That was a beautiful... It's a truth. I don't want to fucking... Let's take us through this frat-frat era. I remember hearing stories of you and Jabal just beating this up. What? You said it's real stuff? Jabal. I like how Jabal is doing it. He was on an R and he was talking down to you. You and Jabal. But you... You be fighting too, Swiss. What's going on? This is your past life. I still fight. Goddamn it. I fight for what's right. I fight for what's right. For the power. Anybody... A dummy could be physical. A dummy could be physical. A genius... can be mental. Strategic. So my fight now is... with greatness. Like, let's kill them with positivity. Let's kill them with great ideas. Let's kill them with... great ideas. Let's kill them with culture movement. You understand? You know, I used to couldn't take words. A lot of people talk a lot of words when they're in influence. All these things on that table. But I'm like, you know what? I know you don't even know what you're doing. I got people that call me every day wishing I had a problem with other people. I know somebody's bothering you. Let's go. I got nobody bothering me. Let's enjoy our shit. Like, you know what? There's enough of us hurting us going on today. We got to stop it. We have to stop it, but it's like... we got to develop a patience... within our own circle. You understand? We might think that, like, a person know better. But based on that person's upbringing, he might not know better. You might be an OG. You might be a general. He might be a pawn. And the pawn's going to make the most mistakes. We got to guide that pawn into being a future general or OG. It's our job if we know better. You understand? So it's like, I could have abused my power, and 20 of my homies could have been doing it a bunch of time, and I would have took care of their family. Just because I was the protocol. But it's like, if we can help people more than we can hurt people, then we're doing a justice in our ecosystem. You know what I'm saying? The easiest thing for me to do is to do something disrespectful. It don't take no thinking to do something disrespectful. But the most respectful thing to do is something respectful. Right. Listen, bro, let me talk to you right now. That was hard. I know you feel like this, but why you really haven't problem with me? Because, whoa, whoa, I ain't never even really say that. Mostly the beef and the death's over miscommunication. If you really listen to the conversation, it's miscommunication. You understand? And we got to have a tolerance to understand the dialogue of the communication to indicate if it's a violation or miscommunication. A violation, we got to deal with accordingly. Miscommunication, which is most of the times, you go home to your family, I go into my family, I give you a hug. Man, I'm happy to meet you. If you ever need something on your inner side, let me know. If I'm on that side, I'm going to call you and let you know. I met a lot of OGs, real official, authentic OGs, all for miscommunication. But the intentions of non-violation. You understand? It's a difference. A lot of people, I came and they don't even know the code. They don't know the codes. And it takes a lot of OGs to explain the codes. You know what I'm saying? There's not many OGs anymore. There is. But, hold on, being examples. What is Swiss, my favorite era in hip hop, period? My favorite era in hip hop is the 90s. And the reason I'm going to say that is because... 90s period, because that's poor. Yeah, because that's 10 years. All 90s. All 90s. The whole decade. Because I'm... Cartier break. You know, I just feel like we were very experimental. We were very experimental. Everybody wanted to sound different. Everybody, the goal was to be as far left as right as possible. Absolutely. You understand? Creatively, yep. Nowadays, it sounds like one producer. And respect to all those producers. But nowadays, it's an easy fix. It's like, when before we had to, like, this table, right? To get the fix. You understand? It was a process. And now it's like a program process. And no disrespect to the technology or the people using technology. I use the technology. But, you know, be as diverse as you can. How are you going to be the producer that you want to be if people think you're three people? When I was Swiss, I was only Swiss. The only thing I can say was, I was so Swiss that they thought it was Swiss beats. It was a group. I used to be in the air, but I was like, where's the rest of Swiss beats? They're over here. They're over here. This one's coming at him later. It was like, you know, the music that you was making was so big that they thought you was... It's five of you. You was like many of people. You know, and my thing now is that I say to producers, it's like, yo, you know, challenge yourself to be greater than the radio. All right. And I'm sorry, this is crazy. But is there any producer that you hate? Like, you can be like, yo man, this nigga got to stop. There's a lot of producers that's fake, but I can't say that. You know, hate is a big word. Not hate. Like, you don't want him to succeed, but like, damn, this nigga's sloppy jokes is not correct. Like, you know... I don't even get those people to time and date and know who they are. You know what I'm saying? Like, my ass saw authentic culture and to what's right. I listen to Fela Kooti, Bob Marley, Shade, Noriega, different, different things that, you know, I got a variety of the sound cloud in my own brain. See, you know somebody that's like, being on those lines of fake and this and that. Did you ever, were you ever sampled like heavy, like sampling old records? Cause I don't... I hate when people sample bad for TV. Let's just keep going. Come on, guys. Don't change the subject, buddy. People keep trying to... That's the motherfucking... Can we still say this right here right now? No, no, no. That's why I'm asking him this. And he just changed the whole fucking subject. Please, go back to your subject. Go right back to my... I like when people try to rhyme over bad for TV. That does tell me this is not... Yeah, you're a little bad for TV alone. Tell him please, please. Everybody's having over that right now. If you sample bad for TV, it's a violation. I'm coming to see you for a picture. All right, thank you. Thank you very much. Make it work out. Yeah, please. Leave me for a picture. I'm sorry. Relax. Relax, man. What you was saying? For real. For real. He got me that time. He got me. But were you ever... Did you ever sample, were you ever a sample heavy on old records? I never was sampled heavy out of the 500, 50 songs I produced. No, I know you that. For a fact. As I'm asking you, you ever did it? Yeah, I like samples. So as my ignorance, I'm a DJ, he's a producer. So this might be ignorant question on my end. But do you think that you ushered in the production wave of not sampling? 100,000 percent. Because it changed the game. You know, Pharrell thanked me and Jess Blaze thanked me because, you know, imagine like before I started not sampling, Puff Daddy had the James Brown samples. Right. And I was in all these different groups on Smash and I came with these non-samples. And the reason why I came with the non-samples was because everything I was sampling, I felt like something was still on something from me. I'm like, I just sampled. It's like, how you... And he stole my sound. Like, nah, that's not your sound. And then I got a Yamaha M1 or whatever the Korg M1. Korg M1. Korg M1. And I just started playing what I felt was good. And, you know, recipes of Cav, you know, and Harlem, Nori Noem. Cav Kaws. You know, Cav Kaws, you know what I'm saying? And I just was using the Korg M1 and doing my thing. And the reason why I liked it was because what I came with was unpredictable. And so I knew that nobody could come out with it. And then I also knew that they can clear this... There's no samples that could. So what you heard right now, you could put out tomorrow. And that was like my marketing plan at that time. Plus you don't have to share the publishing at all. I've gained a lot of publishing offers. Right. That's what I'm saying. It changed the game. Yeah, I never even knew about publishing until I got the checks. I never knew the process of a publishing check. And then we knew a process of royalty, mechanic, who's all those things. Where do we learn that? Who teaches that? Yeah, nobody teaches that. Where do we learn to ask? At school, they don't teach us shit. Nobody don't teach us anything. You know, we just a part of this environment and we were creative beings and we do what we feel that's right. Nobody never talk to us about the business. And that's why in 2017 on forward, I'm going to teach the business. I went to Harvard just because just so I can teach the people the business. I want to teach you art. I want to teach you business for free. Education should be free. Knowledge should be free. You understand? They hold these things back from us. And then how are we going to get to the next level? How are we going to succeed to the next level? We don't know what we're doing. We just happy to make a sound. You understand? What's the parameters of that sound to make our families live in a better life other than the ghetto that we was brought up in? You understand? Like my whole hood is dead. I don't know nobody in my hood right now. You understand? It's just like, damn, I go back to my streets. I want to build parks, all these different things. I don't know these motherfuckers. You understand? It's like you wasn't around when I was, who's this? He might dance on me. You understand? I'm in my hood with a bunch of things like, you understand? I shouldn't be over here like this. But it's the reality of reality. And we got to face it and we got to change it. Everybody want to talk about change, but the only change that we're going to have is within. We got to change with each other. You understand? What's going on in Chicago? Got to change. What's going on in New York? Got to change. What's going on in the world? Got to change. And that's going to come within. And we got to be smart enough to change those barriers and those rules. Put them guns away and think more. That's why I was five. Let your mind be... Women's March. You see? Women's March. Women's March. You got to... I was five. My wife got up at 7 AM in the morning and was like, I'm going to the women's march. I'll be back at 3 o'clock. I'm like, seriously? All right. She just... She didn't even tell me about it. She just did it. And we got to be... There's a big difference. As men, the women is more powerful than us. I believe so. I know so. When they stick together. No, period. The women is more powerful than us because... I agree with you. The devotion to realism is different. We're like... We're trapped in a lot of different things. Ego. This man power. That shit don't mean nothing. Like the women, if your wife tells you she don't mess with nobody, don't mess with that person. She going to see something that you don't see. And we think we got all the answers, but she was like, yo, I don't like him in the house. Don't let him in that house. Because the reason why you let him in that house, she's saying why she don't like him in that house. He went to the bathroom, went to the toilet and washed his hand and flushed his toilet. That's disrespectful shit. She going to tell you that. I'm going to go to your house, wash my hands, flush the toilet, make sure to seat down. Respectful shit. Right, of course. The enemy going to come in and disrespect your home. Piss on the toilet seat. On the floor. And he got it. He going to wiggle on the floor. Wiggle on the rock. The rock. The rock is for seconds. He going to wiggle on the rock. So you telling me you going to check my rugs? When they go wiggle on the rock, they go, you ain't on my rugs? I'm going to tell you, you can piss on my rugs. You got my dog going down to him. You ain't been there a long time. You don't come outside. I want to get into the ruffrata, ruffafella beef. What happened? Everybody pushing them. No, what? Left, right, left, right. I wasn't ready. No, it wasn't really no beef. I know. It was like, be honest, beef is something you don't talk about. Now you don't want to get into it because that's why. The freeway Cassidy Valley. I like that. Was that when you signed Cass? I had Cass for my dad's signed Cass by the way. Because what happened? Like Hove called you and said, I got freeway. I remember the conversation. Let's talk about it. I hit Hove. He knew about Cassidy. They just rockerfella just went crazy on 197. And I was like, yo, I got Cass in the studio. He was like, you ain't here, what are you doing on the radio? I was like, yeah. Hove talking. He was running at H-O. I said, yeah, I heard what you had done on the radio. I heard your name. That was H-O. H-O. Still on that? Okay. H-O. He was like, yeah, I'm at the studio, bring him. I was like, I'm in the studio with Cassidy. I heard what you did. I heard what you did, but I'm in the studio with Cassidy. He about that life. He's like, I bring him. I bring him to the studio. We go upstairs. A lot in a minute. But I got a bunch of goons with me at Sony. So I'm like, yeah. And you just had to, this is the DMX battle against Rockefeller. Nah, that's a long time ago. And I was like, you know what I'm saying? But like, are you thinking about that battle? I'm not thinking about nothing, but Cassidy biting his niggas' heads off. I forgot we did all that about it. So you don't know freeway at this time? Nah, I don't know freeway at this time. Okay, get out of the team. I don't, I heard of them, but I didn't physically, getting your seat down. Yeah, please, please, please, this is historical. I didn't know freeway at the time. I heard of them. I heard it was nice. And I respected that. I was like, yo, I got, we over here, we ready? You heard we did on the radio? I said, okay, we're on my way. I come up there, we're a light, me and Cassidy. I see the room is like this right here. I make a phone call to Sony studio. Yo, we in here, showtime. So we got to even make the room equal. Right? And coming there. To my rough riders, invade the studio. Rough riders coming in. I was thinking, so our fans are stupid. Rough riders came to the studio. It was an equal balance. The iniquity language for our fans. The rough riders invaded the studio. So an equal balance. So now, okay, see you. We got goons on deck, have we? We was meant for whatever. You know, we could fight, rap, war heaven, whatever. But it was good vibes. Cassidy and Freeway started battling. Who was this? Put it on the beat. Who was it that said put it on the beat? I like Freeway. You know what? Freeway turned out to be a good person. He was on his, he's on his D. Everybody's good person. We're not talking about the good person part. To my, this part right here, that's where it is. Freeway said put it on the beat. Freeway, you know you said put it on the beat, goddammit. That makes a noise. Got it. I didn't say put it on the beat. I didn't even have a fucking beat ready. But, because I forget. I remember what I forget. So was there bars, there was acapella at first? And then, I think, like, you know. No, acapella. The whole beat was acapella. And then, Freeway said put it on the beat. I don't know what he thought of this mind. Because it was acapella. So you could hear every verse, every line, every punchline. It was very serious. And that man thought of whatever he thought of this. And he said put on the beat. I said nah, straight bars. We ain't putting on the beat. Put some beat on that joint. Nah, we ain't putting on beat on that. And whole is there as well. Well, everybody's there, leaving the room very silent. Leaving the fucking room. Nicks left the room. He's with this. I would've left the room too. Wait, I'm sorry. We went way too fast. Everybody, a lot of people was leaving the room. Beanie, seagull, hove, and everybody else that plays bets on the table. This is what it is. This is a legendary hip hop moment. This is makes a noise. You're playing this over there. Damn it. I ain't gonna lie. This is a drink champ sometimes. It's like I sit back and think I know a story. Tell me about it tonight. You know what, sometimes I'll say. Give me some more. I'm going in. I'm not gonna stop. Sometimes I'll sit back and think I know a story. I know a story because I'm close to everybody. And then, you know, I realize that I don't really know shit. That's the reason why we started this goddamn show. Let's go, let's go. How do you have another set of Bucardi 8? Bucardi 8 is great. Bucardi 8 gets the best part of the way. I am drinking a Srirac in between. Srirac time. Give me a shot. Give me a shot. Okay, this is my shot glass again. Yeah, Bucardi 8 though. Come on. I'm fine. I felt like I was gonna take it in all mine. You want a chance to take it? No, I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take it. I'll never pretend to take it. I'm not a fucking shot in my life. I got you, dawg. It's my Bucardi team selling it tonight. Yeah, the Bucardi team is here. Are you guys getting tired? They ain't never been out. No, I got to look. Come over here. Come on out. We taking shots though. Okay, give me a goddamn shot. Okay. One by one. One by one. Go has Mike. Okay, come over here and introduce yourself. There you go, Swiss. You look like you from Queens, the boiler room. Yo, didn't you say you live downstairs from Norrie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. He knows you, but... No, no, no, no. No, I was Victor. Yeah, Victor. I know that man. Nobody called me Victor in my life, so you definitely don't know me. But you're still my friend. I'm with him. And we Bucardi. But go ahead. Come on, go ahead. So, where you from? Where you from? Miami, actually. Miami. Let's make some noise for Miami guy there. What up, man? Listen back, man. Yeah, oh, we're about to hit it. Victor, Victor! Come on, man! Come on, man! Come on, man! I was about to take my head full though. Oh, shit! Oh, listen! All right, guys. Yeah, there you go. Go for it, guys. Go for it. Recording again? No, open, open, open. Is it cold? We're back. We're back. We recorded? Yo, Swiss, we got gifts for you. We got gifts from the Dream Champs. Shit, man. Right here. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Dreamchamps.com and 9.com. This is like three bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's Dreamchamps and 8 and 9 where we at right now. The people who host us. I'm going to take this and open. Yes. Now. Now? I can't believe I'm on this show. A shot. A shot. A shot. It's all legendary, man. The Markut one. Oh, okay. Now you listen to me. Nah. Is that straight? Damn. This is straight. Damn! This is straight as fuck. All right, yeah. It's like, I want. On you. I want to dance. I want to dance. I want to dance. So. I love you. I'm young enough to go like, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo. Stop to the stage. Whoo. You're free now? I'm not going anywhere. You know, Tom. You can't do this. You can't do what I do. What do you say? Cheat you get the A. Ah, what's the, what's the song? I put the word fucking. What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong? I'm young enough. Young enough. You can't mix that. All right, little mix. I live my life, but I'm a little mix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could. I hate it. It's a video. That's from the phone. Famous, famous. Famous. For my son. Oh, six rambies nomination this year for no reason. Okay. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No. Oh, damn. We got a beatbox right there. What was that session like? It was crazy. I did 40 beats in that session. Damn, 40 beats in a session. 40 beats in that session. Oh, you went back to 98 Swiss. Yeah, I did. I did a lot of songs on that album. Famous was one of them. And four more of the songs on that album was one of them. The thick were famous for right now. Famous. How did that? You know, he had the prodigy. You know, prodigy, he laid out the drumfires. He laid out a couple of them. He had it. Had it. Yeah, I got confused. He on Bacardi 8. Bacardi 8. Bacardi 8, I and me, so I'm keeping it straight. I got the party period. But he was in the right path, though. Yeah. He was in the right group. Have it. Shut the have it. Yeah, he talked about it on our podcast. He was a big part of that. All I did was just like, I felt an ice cream on, you know, I just felt the, you know, the, the icing to be honest. And she was already fresh. I didn't want me to do my vocals. I had a couple of sounds and different things to it. And we made famous. Which is famous. And we was already famous. Famous on top of famous. Now who's your favorite CEO? You have a work with? Clive Davis. Wow. Wow. That was fast. Wow. That was really fast. Jimmy Iving. Because they both invested in my. In his scope. Yeah. You know, when I did all that first rough on music, that was Jimmy Iving. Right. You know, he was already following up from death row. Right. And so the closest thing to death row was rough riders. You understand me? You know, we might have been a little bit dangerous than death row, but the music spoke for itself. And then Clive Davis gave me my first label. So full surface was with Cassidy and Bone and everybody was at Clive Davis J. Records. You know, both of those my mentors, you know, I'm blessings to them. Make some motherfucking noise, innit? God damn. That's the way it's like I say it. That's for you. Death row. You know who? I'm round one. That's your zone. Woo. Woo. God damn. Now we can end this now. Now we can end this. That's rough. They were keep talking so they can't remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was about to ask you, Swiss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had I walk to city so late Swiss walk to city so late No, no, no, I was really yeah, no, I went there to it. No, no, he went When we put it he's Yeah, he's seen it Documenter I went there see it saying yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so switch You've done everything you had to do in the music business and then I recently see you open up the hot sauce Drink champs hot sauce He's having Yeah How can you remain so humble with all the accolades you made I ain't gonna front earlier You said you had art. I seen art that's bigger than that tree in your house Got biggie mouth. Yes, sculpture cause yeah, look at me Zam. Yeah But you still humble you still came here as a humble person How could how can a person? Succeed so much and then still Be as humble as that Just know where you come from. Mm-hmm. Just knowing that you know Roman noodles used to be my dinner every day You know, just know how the studio ramen noodles, you know, you know, just knowing that a dollar of french fries was was you was famous Ribs from the Chinese store. He was extra famous Cheese pizza with extra cheese. He was extra extra famous You understand and just knowing that we all come from the bottom and you know, it's a blessing for us to be here today That's just waking up this morning. You know, we die in our sleep How do we know what life is? recipes cue cue from world he died in his leave recipes cue You know what you know what interesting about life before they finish this shit they they doing in the background Oh And your dream you can use a hundred percent of your brain But in life you use five percent of your brain You understand like in your dream you can overcome every obstacle you can fly you Everything right but on life right here. You just so bound and strapped down. So is this the dream or is this life? And that's one thing that we got a battle with every day and I wake up in the morning I'm like man, I just had a dream of me flying and I'm in earth and life and I can't fly So is that a dream or is that reality? You know sense so we got to figure out what side of the fence we on you know, this is a movie We're not the directors Before we get about it Like you know cuz I just remember 10 10 hard years of Swiss just controlling it But whatever producer that you said This guy might got me or this guy's might come in for the next year Whatever do say you's like your little step my game up a lot of songs, you know, I wish I produced the Benjamin's About the Benjamin's who produced that? Derek Angeloide in the hitman D-Doc and Stan, you know, I wish I produced they won effects that's You pull it back to intro damn, you know, this is before I became on as I was like damn Imagine if I did something like that Where would I be? You know, um, just to get a rep gangsta So with the same mind frame what producers influenced you the ones I'm talking about right right But is there specifically like you're saying the song but is there any star? Right, you know, I Don't know who the producer was for that's a fake at that time. Yeah You know But I wasn't inspired by producers You know, I never I never even knew what sounds I was inspired by DJs I was inspired by Ron G. I was inspired by take a pre house inspired by do wow I was inspired by Sassin S&S. I was in my you know S&S, you know, I was inspired by DJ Red Alert Chill out Tony touch Tony touch Flex, you know, all these DJs clue, you know, I was inspired by DJs and I became a producer by default We came to produce a by just making DJ yeah, and then Now I'm a Atlanta I Thought I thought you went to Atlanta and the West Indies and came back or something like that No, I grew up in the Bronx. He gave you I grew up in Boston Road, which was like the West Indies I was the first youngest producer decent at the start us, you know, it's like Rick had his incident outside I was there for those different things and super cat had his incident outside, right? I was there for those incidents and I was a producer I should DJ with Renaissance Waggy T. Yeah, waggy T. You know stone love all I was the hip hop producer for those DJs at that particular time young In the club at that time, you understand and I was just out there thugging me. You know saying thug that what? What? In all right, you know me wow And your favorite ever hip hop is Musician no period just My favorite hip hop Just keep it real clean as simple as DMX Because I was able to witness that movie in a front row seat But this different arrows of DMX so can we lay where down my era of DMX? The arrow of DMX and then the return of DMX which we haven't been able to see yet because it's unwritten yet It's written but it's on a public yet. Okay. It might be perfectly expressed You understand and so, you know, I might have been a fan of a lot of other people But you know what I wasn't able to you know a lot of people that we think that's real is not really real You understand like the music might be real, but they might curl under that pressure They tell me tuck under their ass Pressure you understand and like you know with the dog you ain't never ever seen a dog Talk about no other labels than my family label Excuse me What was that? Say it again. Yeah, I'm okay. Right. I Like The thing that I respect about dogs is you never seen him flip flopping through labels since he started You may have bloodline. It was always a rough ride right somewhere around him they People tried to buy him out for way more money than we could afford at those times and the dog always kept it 1000 and that's right and this current time People won't be able to see his movement in Godspeed. You understand Yeah, I'll eat your clothes and get already swiss into two shots of hot sauce This shit Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. So how does a kid from the Bronx, right? You speak to your uncle. They may or may not believe you. You come to the studio with me. We make a classic, but at that moment, remember, he took another shot. That's a hostile. I don't know. But back then, we recorded a record in 97. It don't drop to 98. Right. How do you maintain to say, yo, I'm the guy, these records that come out that next year, because we had to record it in 97. Because I mean, that's just how the climate matched up. Am I correct or maybe factual? No, that's not because you had to record it a year early. Everything was too long. I mean, I might be fucked up because I'm not. Everything. Me too. But so, but how do you maintain to say, I know what I did is this and let me continue to go. You know, the blessing that I had was I was always in control of my destiny. I never had somebody predict or tell me what I need to do from a creative standpoint. Now, I did have to answer to my uncles on a technical standpoint. And that's respect protocol standpoint. Well, I can never, to this day still, I got to answer those questions. Respect. I can never be in a problem today and then presented presented in front of the board. He might have a problem with me and I might fail type of way. I can't move on him until the team say we have no choice or you know what, that's because of this, this and this. Let's help him instead of that, you know, there's rules to this. And I think like a lot of these youth out here, they don't understand the protocols and in a different ways that you got to go about handling things. And the same because a lot of people talk about a lot of colors, blood, Crips, race, this down the third. That thing we bleed is the same color. Absolutely. It's literally the same color. And so, you know, I don't go to the clubs. You ain't never seen me in no clubs, popping bottles, stuntin' on people doing this in the third. People might think I'm stuntin', but I like nice things. If you did, you tested the racket, I'd be seeing you in the club. That's it. That's hard. You know what I'm saying? I don't, I don't. I seen you do that with me early. I went to the studio with you and you went to the club and played bare with TV. I'm not sure if I'm good. You're playing in a club. But everywhere we're crazy. No, before and even at all. No, no, no, I'm doing my dead legs. Was it a miss? Listen, if you notice, he knew every story for every artist. So he been doing that since then. He was a DJ. He took bare with TV and played it. And I went to the club and I was like, I'm not sure. This is 1990. But that was hard. I felt that the people in the club, if you can play a Nordic racket, after the biggest record at that time, we had something. You understand? I remember bringing Dr. Dre to the club and he hadn't been in the club in a long time. And he had a hard time being in that club. But when he heard his music, I seen his life. Because that's what he does it for. I seen his life like embracing love. You understand? You know, and then all my records, I remember when I brought Hope to the club for onto the next one, he was like, yo, you lead that shit. I'm on my shit. He was over there in the VIP. I was in the DJ booth and that motherfucking onto the next one came on. And people fell some type of way. And they looked at me and threw that drink in the cup. He ordered all this type of shit. You understand? Because we was onto the next one. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, you know what? In life, it's what we got to celebrate. There's no big eyes I'm literally use. Like a lot of people like to make a lot of categories of who's, who and what's what. The war in this world is between good and bad. Good and evil. You either a good person or not. It ain't about no race, religion. It ain't about none of that politic, politic, politic shit that they put in front of us. You either real or you fake. You either good or you bad. That's the war that we fighting in this world today. So pick your side. You either real or you fake. A lot of fake niggas. A lot of real niggas. You either good or you bad. A lot of good motherfuckers. A lot of bad motherfuckers. And that's what the war is about. From our presidency, to our streets, to our politics, to our brotherhood, to everything. You got a good cousin or a good brother or a bad brother or a fuck you brother. Like you understand? Like a lot of people in our family, they make it get it too. You know what I'm saying? Because like, can't nobody get you, except for a person that's close to you. A stranger can't get you. A stranger gotta be, his intel gotta be so precise to get to you that it's still personal. Let me ask you a question, right Swizz? Because you, you like, I know you from the heart. I know you from, you want me to fill you up? Let's fill you up? Alright, cool. But now, you're part of this Kanye West record. Yo, we back to Kanye again? No, no, no, no, because this record was very controversial. Which one? The famous record, because when he did the video with the naked people, the naked ain't fucking way. I know. But, but, alright, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna make me a couple more times. You're gonna make me a bandmate for more time, but fuck everybody. No, no, no. So, but, and then now, let's tell us, with controversy comes out. What? And because, you know, let's just be honest, like I know you as a hood nigga, like you my nigga, but at the end of the day, your wife is a very prominent thing. Oh, Taylor Swift. Yeah, that's not my wife. That's not my wife. No, not Taylor Swift, not Taylor Swift. No, no, no, no, what you're saying? You know what I'm saying? But I'm saying, like, how do you stand? Like, did you heard the vocals where he was like, well, like me until the, like, Kind of had sex. You know, I didn't really go into this thing about any artist. You know, I went into this because I got an invite from my brother, yay, and he wanted to be creative. Bigger, more. And we spent more than 48 hours with no sleep in the studio just doing everything that we felt was good. And whatever he kept, I was good with it because I know that we spent that time in that studio and I even posted pictures of us sleeping on the couch, you know, for a couple of hours that we did sleep at nine in the morning. You know, I respected every part of that craft and, you know, I was happy to have fun with him because, you know, yeah, it's in the space where, you know, are you really there for the fun or the fame or the fortune or the pain? You understand? I ain't never asked that man for, I don't even get it. I don't even get Yeezys for free. Adam, we gotta stop this right now. We gotta all start getting Yeezys for free. Let's make some noise for that. I paid my son, my son is in this fashion shop. I paid like 1500 for a pair of sneakers that we gotta stop this right now. I could violate niggas like don't make me go, don't make me feel funny about it. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna support him. You got the Reeboks hit too. Yeah, Reebok is a fan. Yeah, we need some drunk box. Listen, everybody gotta get their mind right. Reebok, this, that, and the third. Oh, you're not playing the game. If you're not about the culture or you're not about the culture. I don't care about no position in this, that, and the third. You're showing Reebok, but you're not with us. Shots fired. No, I'm not shouting nobody down and I ain't shouting over shooting no fires because I walk in the building and we'll do that and you'll read about it. You understand? I'm just saying it is what it is. It is what it is. You either with us or you not. Right. Don't, don't, huh? That's my legs. That's my legs. That's my legs. Reebok is with my friends. I haven't had a pair. I haven't wore a pair of Nike's on my feet in nine years. I don't even know what a Nike feel like. But if Reebok is going to embrace the culture, embrace the culture. That's the, this is something we can, right? The pink. Embrace the culture. Embrace the culture. All the way. All the way. We don't want to. That's not no all the way. I have a question. It's not whatever I say here, I tell it to them too in front of the boardroom or in front of whoever they want to talk to because I gave my all. I gave my all. I remember I couldn't mend with a person a pair of Reeboks. They would mend them back to me. You had to be from New Orleans. If you was from New Orleans, they'll love your Reeboks. You know what happened. You know, I, I, I say. The reason, if you look at UFC, if you look at the UFC right now, you see a Reebok in that ring. Swiss beats, Dana White, Lorenzo Fatida, signed that deal. I brought that deal to the table. You know what I'm saying? I'm the reason why Reebok is in UFC, every uniform. Not uniform, UFC. They was having Slim Jim, all these brands on these uniforms and football and NBA don't do this. That's kind of the sport. I brought Reebok to the table. They was going to another brand. Got the track. You got the Elliot Wilson track. Shout out to all that right there. That's a special train. You did rap radar a couple of times. I like rap radar. This is their train. Relax. This is their train. I do like Elliot Wilson. The content that he spoke about. This is another type of fight. Totally different fight. You go ahead and hit it again. He's got the chance. I never did this on TV. You know what I'm saying? You're on the chance for the next fight. And you talk to them too. You give me that. We got 360. That's why the kids. Some of the kids need this shit. That's why. We need the problems of the kids. So what was your most amazing session? Like, what was the most amazing session? What was the most amazing session? What was the most amazing session? Like, I know you got to have Michael Jackson stories. You got to have Mariah. What's that? That's the one I got here. This is the one I got here. I'm buying a big ball. You're switching that for me without telling me? The weed or the question? The weed, man. You ain't tell me that was a braja. That fuck out that baseball. You're dirty? Let me know my hate. Let me know. So what was your most amazing session? Where you was like, damn. This nigga. Chico the ball. El de ball. Chico the son. Chico the ball. He was on NRE. My most amazing session was ain't had shit to do with me. It was Michael Jackson and Sony Studios. He had that motherfucker looking like Playland. Toys, Legos. I went into the studio, him and Teddy Rowland. They were laughing. We started to produce, you know, Riding Jerkins. I was about to say some shit. You can say it. Don't say it. Because people will hear it. It is what it is. They don't even know this. But you know, New York City is our town. A lot of people can play around with it. You ain't never heard nobody disrespect our family in our town. Ruff riders who what, where, how, when. And when you heard about it, we carried it out all the way. Blessings to all the unfortunates, right? But I used to, I had a rule that none of the producers could get robbed. So Ronnie Jerkins would pull up an Amon Jury. This one for Rell, this one, that one. And I used to see people like really playing on them. And I was like, if y'all do that to them, that's a violation. That means that's open season for me. That might not be around me all these different days. I might be in another space. And somebody might feel like the producers is open season. I can't be a part of that. You know what I'm saying? So my own fellow membership couldn't violate those traits. So if a producer came in, I don't care what he had on him. I don't care what he had on him. He was protected by the law of kind of what I created. Yeah, your laws. Out of respect. You know, and it saved their lives. Like literally, like, I'm listening to people. And I'm like, y'all can't do that to him. That's like, if I'm over here, they're going to feel like they can do that to me. You know what I'm saying? And they don't even, like those producers, they don't even know how to say no. He definitely saved me. They don't know. Trust me. It was a heist. It was too easy. Your security not cut like that. You're not cut like that. And your manager's not cut like that. It's whatever. Like it was, it was food. And I wouldn't let nobody eat off the producers plate. It's beautiful things. I just wouldn't let nobody do that. Let's make some noise to Swiss God damn it. Now, what do you love about the new school? Let's praise what's happening now. Well, I love about the new school is that we can't relate to it. That's what you love about it. You can't. You can't. That's what you love about it. I love that about that because. Because it's evolving. That mean that we, we, we, we, go ahead. I'm sorry. How many people was comfortable in their ways can relate to an RA? Absolutely. At that particular time, they can relate to it. They can relate to damage. They can relate to hope. They were stuck in their old ways. I love that I can relate to it. And it's a constant reminder and builder of what we need to have a little bit more patience with. We might not understand, but the youth might understand. And at that time, when Nora was coming to you, understood that. And then the OGs of that time, they particularly team couldn't understand him. I remember when they couldn't understand me. I did money cash. Oh, that's my hand across the keyboard. They thought it was a sin. It turned up to be a win. You understand? Jigga, the same thing. They have from TV the same money. Money cash. Hold, say that. I'm sorry. Hand across the creek. The keyboard. That's crazy. They didn't think I was winning. They didn't think I was winning. They didn't think I would win. They thought it was a sin because the shit was too easy to begin. Oh, it's a lie. Make the law. Make the law. You understand? Who's making a beat out of that? Make me make a beat out of that. Make me make a beat out of that. Make me make a beat out of that. Make me make a beat out of that. Let's go. Let's go. That was hard, Swizz. That was hard. So, man, man. So now, this is what I said. I have never been disappointed in hip hop, even when I'm in hip hop. That's a big statement. I've been. I've been. I've been. That's like the situation I never heard that one. So I need to be very clear on what you mean you ain't never been disappointed in hip hop. No, I'm... If I were to say rap, both of y'all... No, no, no, no. Rap is hip hop. Hip hop is rap. I'm talking about rap, too. You ain't never been disappointed in hip hop. No, no, no. I've been disappointed in hip hop a long time. Rap could be bad hip hop, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's hip hop. I'm saying hip hop. I think that hip hop can continue to exist. Right. I think streaming lowered the playing field. And that's the reason you need to get into it. Let's get into that. Because streaming... I really want to get into that. What I'm trying to say is streaming, let's suppose whatever whoever you are. But as long as you promote your streaming shit... Right. You could level the playing field for whoever has people who are spending millions of dollars in these promotional dollars. Oh no, I'm not bugging now. I think it's changing now. You know what? The reason why I like streaming is because the streamers are getting their props. You know, they may not have the hundreds and thousands in the first week. But the streaming accounts for those different votes that wouldn't be accounted for. So it's like, you know what? If you're independent... Excuse me. And you're streaming and your digital component is connected, you win it. If you look at Drake and all of the batteries that he broke this year, it wasn't really based on physical. It wasn't. It was like, let's talk about physical. Or let's talk about streaming. What was the never-fancy video? Oh, there was a fancy video. I shot that. We shot that. I was in that. The reason why I wasn't approved is unknown. Let me get my hands on it. I will leak it. It was fun. We had a good time. Same thing was TI swinging rags. I know. Because Gucci didn't want to... We had swinging Gucci right there. They didn't want to play all them rags in that fucking video. You know what I'm saying? I got stories. We never knew. Let's go. I'm here to talk that talk. And you and Drake, you've never really worked together since then, right? We worked together on my wife's album. You know, I think Drake is a creative guy. I'm going to just leave that at that. Because, you know, I want me to... I feel like you got a little... I mean, we're here to talk. I feel like you got no way. I'm sorry. No, no, no. I'm not a weird guy. Me neither. That's why I'm proud of you. I think both of you guys are being weird right now. I agree with that. All right, Swiss subject. Swiss subject. You know what? You should talk. I feel like you have a deal. Where's talk, Swiss? Nobody listens to us anyway. I think, like, you know, there's no rules to fame. There's no rules to that. When you came and this came, anybody that you know that's famous, let me know the guy that they had to lead into it. You understand? Especially coming from the streets. We... coming from the streets, we ain't even know... we could be amongst the name of famous. We was nameless. You understand? People look past us. Ain't nobody look at us. Ain't nobody look at NO. Ain't nobody look at nobody in this room. Or better yet, any artist that's playing on this radio that came from the bottom into something. You understand? So, you know, when I look at different things, I have to gauge it on a different level. And I have to gauge on where we come from. Has anybody disappointed you? He was going to say something. Drake, come from a different... He come from a different lineage of where we come from. This is a person that is our biggest fan turned into his biggest man. Came from our biggest fan turned into his biggest man. He know about more about us than we know about us. Because he just tapped into that different... He just tapped into a different zone. And then he figured out how to make great music. You know, um... I'm not even going to play with these people because when they man's, when they jump out of the line, I just respect all the blessings that came to a person from being creative. Make some noise for that goddamnit. Yeah. I need a shot. Piss the whip and nigga off his fucking private plane. Take it, take it. Come on. I feel like we're taking a little shot of the car. Are you on the set of the car? I'm in, I'm in. I'm not on the set of the car. I'm in. My glasses been on that thing. No, no, no, my friend. Then pour your glasses to the shop. If I really say that shit, I'm not even scared of these niggas like that. Like to be honest, however they want to cut the cake is not a birthday. Every day is your birthday. Every day is your birthday with Drake Chan. Every day is your birthday with Drake Chan. When you wake up... And New Year's Eve. It's your birthday and New Year's Eve with Drake Chan. Every night you died in your sleep. With God, with God, with God, or whoever you believe in. You gotta go home. I woke you up that morning. It's your blessing. That's your new start. The fact that you're breathing and seeing light is a plus. Who's that? Who's that? Relax. I feel like a new bathroom back there. No, come on, Swiss. Don't worry about it. They never pick up on the mic anyway. Yeah, no, I hear everything. I'm gonna keep it. Oh, you've thrown it on the shelf? Definitely. I hear things that I'm doing to fuck. No, I hear everything. I'm the DM. I'm the DM. So now, I'm here for us. I'm here for us, bro. It's DMX and Jay-Z Bav. Yeah. Been from this day. Oh, you've been back there. I like your stuff. Now we get into that. Were you there? No, I wasn't. I was late. All right, we like your stuff. I've been late. I haven't been late. He was late today. I was slapped. They called me a Swiss beast of monster because I never slept. So that's how I got them. You were late today, dude. But, yeah. I was late. So, you were late, girl. You were late to your mind. What time am I speaking for? What time am I going to be talking about? No, you got here a little late. You got here like 45 minutes late. No, I was out of time. I was at 9.30. What time did I get here? No, you're supposed to get here at 9.30. No, they said 9.30. That's all those nine dudes. They said 9.30. They said 9.30 the latest. What time did I get here? 9.45 and a half. You got here 10.45 in my mind. That is like motherfucking... Oh, shit. Okay, so now you got 10.40. I got a short late because he got to dance. You got to... You want him to dance? No, not literally dance. Five years coming out. Five years coming out later. Five years coming out later. But, so now you're here. Hold on one second. Let me tell you something. Five years. I've been in meetings globally with my... A lot of people don't know my position at this brand that we're drinking. They don't know where it come from. They don't know how it happened. I never even talked about it. I'm in control of 300 brands that people drink. Bombay. Sure, too. Doucet. It's... Well, I'm sorry. I can't say it. I can't say it. I can't say it. I'm sorry. I can't say it. I can't say it. I can't say it. I can't say it. I can't say it. I can't say it. I can't say it. I'm in control of this shit. And I flew from... Thailand. New York. Stop clapping. Dubai. New York. Stop clapping. Texas. I will keep clapping. Atlanta. Miami. You're clapping to help anything. You want me to say it? Does it help? No. Those are all of the... It hurts my hand. Go out. And landing in Miami and being a meeting at 9am. Time now. Let's make some noise. I'm not gonna lie. I'm trying to get all these bottles of Bacardi on the table with a check. I'll be so happy. I'm not gonna lie. I'm a passport. If my passport stepped up, then he said like more countries, my passport just said, it's over. I'm a passport. You really been in all these many countries. No. I've been in all these countries. I've been in all these countries. I've been in all these countries. I've been in all these many countries. No. Listen. Wait, wait. Let's go back to what he said. Bacardi on the table. All Bacardi. Let's go. All Bacardi. All Bacardi. He's listening to what he said. All Bacardi. And rum. You know, you know. You brought the rum. You brought the rum section. I was posting, you know, Puff hit me, right? That's my OG. The reason why I started Adelaide was because of Puff. The reason why you got showtime, got damaged. Showtime. All those hypes came from Puff Daddy. I didn't know about that shit until Puff Daddy just from a niggaz that was special delivery. Got time. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen. That's Puff Daddy. Factual. He's the Adelaide king. Revolt TV. Revolt TV. Revolt TV. Puff hit me. Revolt TV. Puff hit me. It was like, Swiss. God damn it. Whoa. You really like great goose like that? I said, it's under the umbrella. I run 300 of the brands. He said, get your money, nigga. I said, as I will. I said, but we're going with rum. Bacardi eight. And the fact that like he didn't downplay me. He didn't diss me. He didn't even put me in like a compromising situation. He didn't. I know that we owned all those different particular brands. So he was like, you know, I'm Sirach. We're talking about great goose. Like you like great goose like that. You sleep in my house. My brother, this is not personal. This is business. And he said, get your money. That's that's that's a real hustler. Of course. Another hustler. Because we have to encourage each other to go to the next level. I would never talk down to Bacardi about Sirach. I drink Sirach right now. Let's do it. Let's go. No, no, no. Because I'm talking about like, like, like, like. That's just right. We all in. No, no. You said the streets. You said the streets. Sirach. That's the fucking apple. Sirach. Sirach. Sirach. I'm talking about the Swiss. I can't even go out there. God. You know, him and Jubal, they do man pull-ups together. No, Jubal do pull-ups. That nigga's the bomb ass. Sirach is my family. The bartenders? Sirach is my family. And I'm so boss. What are we doing? I'm not firing me. Okay, let's go, buddy. You can't fire me. Fire me. Whatever. No, we can't fire you. What's going on? I'm talking about Bacardi. Fire me. I'm drinking Sirach. Do what you want to do. You really want to do this? I'm doing this for the culture. We don't go against each other. You're going down. You know what I'm saying? I have puff with a Bacardi eight bottle in his hand. Doing his dance. I've seen the puff. The puffy dance. The puffy dance because you know what? There's no big eyes on little you. A lot of people want to put us against each other. But we all, when you talk about music, we all under that category. Big, high, little, low, rap. Nori is under the same umbrella as Hove. Hove is under the same umbrella as Little Bootsy. Whether you like it or not. Whoever we all fall under these genres of music. Nobody, like the way that we think that they separated, they don't. They're going to put Nelly with whoever's out right now. Because it's mainstream in the last form that they understood. That's why you can go out to Fashion Week literally this week and perform. And it'd be a smash hit. Smash hit Nelly. Bang, Fashion Week, Paris. Nelly, the biggest. Nelly took a Drake right now. Did you see that? I didn't see that. Yeah. They can go to Nelly's to Drake right now. I'm the only nigga that's seen it. Is that what? You need a lot to do that, right? Nelly got a drink right now? Drake, he said Drake. No, let's do it again. Oh, shit. We don't need to take a shot no more. Shit. I know what time it is. Wait, wait, wait. I'm just going for it. No, no, no. Are you going to switch? Is that a pee pee in the cup? What is that? Come on, bro. No, I'm not. That was Syracuse. Nice. I like that one. Man, this is where it goes. I like that one. Downhill, brother. Syracuse, McCarty 8. That's great. That's a favorite card, brother. Yello. C'mon, buddy, bro. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. Y'all fucking up. I'm not going to hide. Alicia was halfway protected. That's not how it went down either. You want to get it out because we didn't get it out in the pub episode. Hey, I'm buff. These niggas are sharing things. No, no, we got it out in the pub episode but it got edited out in the pub episode. Hold up. They going to edit me? No, no, no. We're not going to edit you. Can you just play? Because I'm saying. You play something. I would nail you. You're going to come at me and I'm going to come at you. No, no, come at me. I'm the guest. Listen, listen, listen. I'm going to tell you something. Ask me the real shit you want to fucking know tonight. Yeah, you're talking about me. I'm going to fuck whoever, whatever. Everybody's food. No, it's your turn. I've been going for 90 minutes. It's your twin. We're going to do who, what, when. Talk to me about whatever you want to talk to. Whoever, whatever. Let's go. I'm supposed to produce the shit. No, no, no. No, produce the shit. The producer's pussy. What? Obviously, you know there's things that we don't know what to ask you. Please tell us. What to ask me? Yeah, tell us something. Obviously, you know. You know there's a lot left on the tape. You know, I can't tell you what to ask me. No, there is. I'm doing it. Oh, producer, has it a sound? Produce. Who has it? That's our producer right here. The one that's production. The producer wants to get into the real shit. No, but the producer thing is easy. Yeah. That's, you know, we, we don't, we don't, if I recap on what we did, we don't shed light on a lot of different things. Now let's get into like personal life things. Oh, sure. You want to go there? Why not? I'm going to respect you. The first thing I'm going to say is that I've seen in like New Year's Eve, you had your ex-wife and your new wife together in the crib with the big statue, Mickey Mouse with the X-axis. Jesus Christ. That was all I said. Shout the cause. That's all. That's all. My ex-wife and yeah, yeah. That means they had good relationships there? No, I can't say that. I've done that, but it wasn't real. Oh, it's not good relationships? Big Mickey Mouse. It was big. Big Mickey Mouse. It's real, it's real good. Alright, Miss Ann, she, she talked to my ex-wife, but you know, both of your ex-wife is like fucking people on TV. My ex-wife, my new wife, both beautiful people. But they just wasn't on TV and you are like a great guy. At the end of the day, we got on my marriage, currently in my ex-marriage. Me and my ex-wife, we were young when we was dealing with what we was dealing with. I went to our wedding. You remember? Yes, I do. Wow. Yes, I do. I was late as a month. That's crazy. I remember you did. You know what I'm saying? That stopped smoking years ago. No, don't go for it. Keep going. No, we understand that language. Good to you. Look, I have a big mouth. You know, people, people could pot and plant, but people could pot and plant, alright. Sorry, sorry about that. Sorry about that. People could pot and plant, but God is the best. A lot is the best of planets, right? Are you active Muslim? No, I'm not. I believe in the most high. I believe in multiple religions. I believe in things that relate to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying you say Muslim things. Yes, I believe in the most high. I believe in multiple religions. I believe in things that relate to me. I'm just saying you say Muslim things. Yes, I go on and off a couple of times. Okay. Just because it's just my grandfather. I grew up in... Oh, that's right. My name is Kasim Dawich. I'm a Siddhean. Absolutely. I have a full Muslim name. Right? I went to Muslim school. I speak the Muslim language. That's what I grew up with. None of my uncles smoked or drank to this date today in 2017. Which we should all... Well, none of them ever had a drink. Right here to that. Or a smoke. They never did? No, we never... The thing that made Ralph Rutter strong was... Did you hear this? They never drank. They never smoked. And they never messed with people's women. You know what I'm saying? Nobody ever... So a female couldn't interject into the system. Drug couldn't interject into the system. Wouldn't ruin it. And the protocols couldn't interject into the system. Wow, wow. You know what I'm saying? It was a real protocol there. And I'm bred from that. I started drinking, smoking at 30. Later in life. You know what I'm saying? I'm 38 right now. I had to think about this. Eight years. Eight years. I was lying all the time with ages, right? I'm 38 right now. And I only been drinking and smoking for eight years because it was a violation. What made you start drinking and smoking? When I say drinking and smoking, I don't mean like I have to have it. No, no, but what triggered it? You know what? At the end of the day, I just wanted to be rebellious. You know what I'm saying? At 30? I mean, I'm just saying. Yeah. Because I was chapped in all of the ages, my 20s and my teens, before that I was chapped into this thing that was very militant. You know what I'm saying? So when I had my freedom and I had my money and I had a little bit of fame. Like I do what I want. I wanted to be grown. So I smoked a little weed. Smoked a cigar. I drank a little drink. And I literally started that life at 30. You understand? And you know, I can't say it was the best decision that I made. I can't say it was the worst decision. Right. That's what it is. It is what it is. Like you got to do what the fuck you want to do and live your life. I don't like, I've never been like a scared person. I could have been dead 10 times. You understand? I've been shot at a bunch of times. I've been in situations a bunch of times. You know, but one thing that I knew was honor and protocol. And I know that a lot of people in this industry that we come from, they don't know the basics. They don't know the math. They don't know the knowledge. So they do different things that's like temperamental. Right. They don't do different things that represent the culture or themselves or their families. You know, you look at how many reps that we got today. Ain't never been an extermination plan like we need today. You understand? Back then, you knew what to do and you knew what not to do. Nowadays, people don't even know what not to do. And you know what I say? You know what? I can't even blame them because they ain't had a knowledge or the influence or the team or the structure that we had for that guidance. So they lost. They lost ones. You understand? We wasn't lost ones. You know, we came up with protocol, obedience, discipline, repercussions and different things that went against that violation. So let me ask you something before you get about it. I'm not going nowhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ready to write my book in this mother fucker. Because there were two different hours, right? When you say, when you speak about J, then you speak about X, right? Oh, that's two different conversations. Exactly. This is what I'm trying to say. And then when you speak about X, that was a certain hour, then you speak about J. And that was a certain hour, either behind or before. Yeah. What did you visualize? What I visualized was that, you know, X put his drug habits, his hard times, his inconvenience to life, his unchosen parts of life on his front sleeve. And they'll disrespect the whole, I'm working on him and his music right now. But he put all those things under the mansion, X behind his sleeve, which is the reason why X would pray with people on their stage. Blood to Crips, Bloods, Gang Bangas, Drug Dillers, whoever you named it, they're crying on stage for X. It's hard to follow with X, with, can I get a, or whatever the songs were, you understand? So that's why that task had to reverse on that physical stage. But you know, Hope is a genius. He's a smart guy. And he might have, and he, I have no doubt that he's going to have like the long-term effect that might outlast DMX. But he knows what his best challenge was, Nas, DMX, maybe the two out of a few, you understand? And he respect those things. He respect DMX, he respect Nas, he respect himself, and I've never ever seen him disrespect those things. You know what I'm saying? As much as those people felt disrespected in those times, I've been with Hope in a lot of real personal moments. And I witness him listen to Nas. I witness him giving props and respect to DMX, which is the reason why I'm happy why him and DMX communicate on the phone right now, you know? Right. Now, if DMX, what a sign to rock nation recently. Why you want to do that to me? We got ahead. No, but I'm asking you. That's all the way. You couldn't, but I've seen your statement. I've personally seen your statement. It was like, yo, I don't mind that the locks is that rock nation, but I never do, you know, thought that rock song. Okay. Would you have thought the same way about DMX? If, if, if. I don't think the dog ain't throwing them no off time. At least you know. But you know what? I'm gonna tell you something. I seen the dog in Vegas. I'll say, the dog. He said, yo, your podcast is good. I said, yeah, I need you one more time. He said, what? Okay. I forgot to. I don't need. But the dog. The dog is with you know, you know, if the dog was to do a deal with rock nation and was taking his kids to the next level, because that's our main focus on this new album. And even about him, me, it's about his kids and his family because that's what we work hard for. We don't have all the fun. We don't have fun since 98. You understand? It's 2017. And so it's bigger than me. Him. It's about our kids. It's been 20 years. I'm good luck. You understand? I'm good luck. It's about dogs, kids and I really, I really feel a type of way about that. And I know that he feel a type of way about that. And if we can't elevate the kids, then what we was put on here on earth to do was wasted. You understand? And I believe in no wasted time on this limited time that we call life. There's only 28,000 days to this thing that we call life. I don't live 14,000 of my days and I'm 38. So imagine where everybody else stand in this world. By the time you know the time that you spend on this world, this shit is almost fucking over. And then they can hit you with some old other shit. You understand? So I just admire the protocols and the factors that's within. You know, as far as dogs, you know, you ready or you not ready? You understand? I look him in his eyes. I'll fight him. We get into it. We done, we done scrapped many a times. Awful of. Dog? Yes. Me and dog scrapped many a times. Like we fight physical hands, knuckles. That blood. Black eyes. And then we shoot out for each other for survival too. That's in his book. I protected his life many a times. You know what I'm saying? Like it was just nature. You're not going to do nothing to him. That's my brother. You know what I'm saying? And one thing I tell you about dog, he's the most generous person I met. If you look at all this crimes that they talk about, it ain't never been about no real crimes. It ain't never been about governmental crimes. Him joking with police this time. You ain't never seen old news with X about him hurting a person or doing bodily harm or doing something really disrespectful to anybody. It's been about small things, you understand? And for him to be able to maintain his capabilities and his music industry to be small things, but the media wanted to backlash him for big things and for him to have his stride and to be focused today. Man, that man, he got a song called Cancer Survivors. Right? This is about a survivor, nigga? Because I'm about to smoke a cigarette. Nah, this is about not smoking fucking cigarettes. Cancer survivors. It's horrible. It's horrible. He's talking about his grandmother that died from cancer. And the cancer survivors really are the people that survived from people that lost ones to cancer. But also the people that survived cancer that's still living in regressive cancer. You understand? He got a song called Fool's Go. Well, many of these guys are poor kings. Big mansions, they have everything but have nothing. He talks about that. He got a song called Let It To My Son that's going to make every father in the industry change their life. I promise you. And we're going to go gutter. We're going to go bang this back. We're going to go all that shit. But that Grammy that he's going to get on that stage, and I promise you everybody in this room, it's going to be because of these songs with substance that's going to be able to connect back to culture. We make some noise for that right now. Are we taking another shot? Let's go. I like that you nice. I like that you not even have what you have. Hope for the nice. I haven't been here for a long time. You are here. In the physical. But in the mental. Are we taking one more shot? No. Take one more shot. No, you are fucking. I'm taking one more shot. I can't believe you're here, twin. Twin, twin, twin, twin, twin, twin, twin. I was going to throw a beat on you with your freestyle. I love this guy right here. We're not going to talk about what happened, what happened when I... But we love this guy. I can't believe he's here. Handsome guy too. You swagged out on me. What am I doing? What are you doing? My purple. It's your fault, bro. It's my fault. It's your fault, bro. I already had my father feed Swiss. That's so happy. I need him. I'm gonna fight any other guy. That's what happens, bro. Drink champs, bro. Drink champs? Drink champs. That makes another for Drink Champs. Hey! Wait, wait, wait. Before I give you this, can you do that one more time so we can sample that real quick? One time we're going to do that for Drink Champs. So, take us down. Holy shit. Just relax. Just relax. Just relax. Just relax. He went in. Hold up, hold up. I need this to be the endless fucking interview. Do not let me leave unless this is your last interview. You've already hands down some of the interviews. No, seriously. Do not. Trust us, trust us, bro. Trust us. No, no, bro, like seriously. Trust us, bro. I got like whoever you are, let's go. I don't know how you're doing this. Listen, listen. Trust us. I want this to be the best fucking interview on Drink Champs because we're drinking. Hey, everybody! Cheers. For him, I love him. I love him, man. And I love y'all because you love y'all. But I started off loving him. I want this to be the most rated... No, it's a good interview. Like the Gold Blood. This is how you start. No, seriously. Ask me. Like the Gold Blood. Whatever y'all want to get into. And this is faster than me. Whatever y'all want to get into. You need to start off the right way. Get in the heroin. This is my most controversial shit tonight. I'm ready to fucking get a abortion. That's it. Run away from me. This is the first episode I came back to in Switzerland. This is my dog right here. Yo, yo. This is the... Look, that is twins. Now you're just so, bro. Let me tell you something. I got a chair for you. No, no, I got you. You're a twin. Don't you dare try to stand up. No, no, no, no. Relax. No, no, no. Look, look. Twins is moving forward. This side, right now. No. Listen, listen. This is his soul. This is his soul, man. This is his soul, man. This is his soul. I'm gonna keep it real, too. I'm gonna keep it real, too. Damn, bro. Oh, no, no, no. I didn't mean to get emotional. I'm fucking emotional. All right. No, let me break it down. Since the beginning, we started this show. Twain came with me. That's my little man right there. Since you started this show? Since you started this show. We started this show. Not me. We started this show. I'm gonna tell you something. You don't have to. No, no, no. Let me finish. Let me finish. And what was it? Town, town? Yeah, in my office. The whole office. Tell them. It was a best game. Yeah. Yeah. All right, by Bayside. Good. I can't finish the story. No, we did the first two shows. Kenny Anderson and Fat Joe. Kenny Anderson was first. Fat Joe was second. But Fat Joe came out first. All right, good. And my man was there the whole time. I'm gonna tell you something. From this night on, we dedicate 5% of the show to this brother. Let's do it. Okay? Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Like, if he meant that to us, and I know who he is, in 2.1 seconds, I knew that before we even did it, when we did over there. You know, we all we got. Absolutely. We all we got. And we can't expect for somebody to recognize us. Yeah. Because let me tell you something. I'm gonna recognize ourselves. Can I say something? They started to go find me. That's relax. It's not a lot. It's not no fun. It's not no fun. It's not no fun. I got my naked. I got my naked. I got my naked. They started to go. Relax. I don't know who did that. I don't know. I don't know. But Slime, Slime, they want to go find me. You can call me. You ain't got no fucking go-go. Exactly. Give me five. Slime. We don't do the go-finders. Give them ten. Slime, you with me, Slime. We don't do that. Snags, wake up. We got the recovery. I'm all at it. It doesn't matter if I go broke. It's okay. I'm all at it. I'm all at it. I'm all at it. I'm all at it. I'm all at it. I'm all at it. I'm all at it. I'm all at it. Together. God damn it. Relax. I didn't like it. What? You with me forever. Insha'Allah. Because you drink chance fucking army brother. Right Ali? Ali, I mean what I say. No, we going to make sure. Seriously. Everything is taken care of. Relax. Alright. Because listen. If I be too nice to you, the fans like I'm like it. So come on, come on, come on. Come on, say something. You know, you know, you know we got you, Tony. Cardi A. Cardi A, the only. I believe in this show since day one. I told Slime, he's going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. I'm going to be a good guy. It's crazy. I actually came on a revolt. I just knew I would come on a revolt. Where are you from? Where are you from? I'm from the Dominican Republic. My nationality. But my parents are my dads from Washington Heights. And my mother's from San Diego. You know Santiago? And the Dream Jazz family miss you. That's right. They've been here for the day once since we started this. And the fans, they miss you. So keep talking to them. It's my pride and joy, man. I've seen, I did this out of heart. You know what I mean? Like just to hold supporting. I've seen the bigger picture. I saw the episode one. I saw the bigger picture. I see it and I'm just still more the kind. You're about to make yourself cry. Let's talk about somebody. Let's talk about your cousin sticking your finger in your ass. Where are you from? What? I'm going to speak some real shit. So we're going to shoot out somebody. They took the finger every time. That was your doctor. That's called digital stimulation. Where's the girl? It's called digital stimulation. It's called digital stimulation. She can't do that? No, because you know when you're paraplegic, paralyzed, and weighs down, you know, you have no controls over your shit or your piss. So when I got to take out my pee every certain amount of hours and I got to put, you know, I got a shit a certain amount of days. So, you know, since your body's not moving as much, you know, you get constipated. So it's called digital stimulation. Cause. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. How you talking? How you talking? I don't know how I feel it though. Shit. As long as I start feeling that shit, I do not want to know that shit. Yo, listen, listen, listen. We got you at drink chance. No, I know. You been having me my bad. We got you at drink chance. And if people are listening in and you want to, you know, whatever, but listen, when I, you know, in my family and I told them, I said, don't start no gun, go from me, none of that dumb shit. I told them, I said, I don't, cause, cause, cause you know what? I got you. Yeah. I could kill less. Oh, no. Ha. Ha. Ha. So, well, that's a great conversation. Yeah. Well, yeah. I understand what you're saying. But then, then, then, then, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. I understand. But relax. I'm relaxed, man. This is, this is a blessing, you know? You know why? I, there's nobody else in this world that I see everybody love as much as they love you, twin. And we're going to continue to support that. You know why? You're fucking shit. And I don't give a fuck. I don't, I'm going to go broke. No, I'm going to make sure my family's okay. Everything left. Everything left. I'm going to make sure 20 is okay. Yeah. Because, and we're all, but we're going to make sure DC 20 is okay. Oh, in fact, we're good. Cause you started with us and you're going to end with us. And we see you stand up. What was the, was the guy, the 1800 on my tongue, it was relaxed. Tell them that you got 12 months already. Because we're going to make sure you continue to walk. So you want to talk to them, Mike? Yeah. Say something to the people. I'm a snowman. I do everything out of heart. When you do everything out of heart, everything plays all right. And sometimes things happen, but you can't question the man upstairs. At the end of the day, there's a reason behind it. And it's faith, it's energy, and God is a creative science. That's why I'm going to fuck with them doctors told me. You know what I'm saying? Whatever. And I'm like I said, I'm prepared for whatever. But I know I got a good team behind me. You know, I got a great family. You know, my drink chance family, I was like, I'm a tortilla fan. Cause every time you go live, I see how many fans you got man. Shout out to niggas from Pakistan. Shout out to the New Zealand niggas man. Shout out London, UK. Everybody's loyal dog. West Coast, man. Just everybody man. Just Swiss. I just want to break it down. You know, when we started this shit, we just wanted, we just, it was just a cool but it's just retarded league. Cause you know we're tired. Everybody crazy. And it just kept blowing, blowing, blowing. And twin was a part of the first episode. Wow. And Fat Joe called me. This is how I knew it was retarded. This fat Joe called me and said, what you bet? He said, you mad. You be mean to this nigga. I took my hat off. I took my hat off. And I'm like, damn. But everybody in our crew has duties. That's what you said. Everybody in our crew has duties, whether you big or small. Everybody in our crew got duties. That's right. And we all got to stick together. That's a fact. Swizz, peace. We're going, let's all everybody. Everybody. And all I need, bad from TV for life. Whatever you want to do. We got to big you up as a father right now. Thank you man. As a father. As a father. My kids ain't my life. You know, my kids made me put boundaries on what I would do and what I won't do. You know, our kids, they ain't, none of them asked to be here. You understand? We might be in our situation while we're here. But when them kids come, they ain't asked to be here. We got to protect them from all the different things that we ain't even prepared for. I have fun with my kids. I'm a class clown with my kids. You know what I'm saying? My dad wasn't, you know, most of our dads wasn't there for us. You know, we got to spend more time to come up with less excuses. You understand? You got the big Mickey Mouse in your career. Mickey Mouse, the Mickey Mouse that no one tells him about. That's like a wood. Yeah, yeah. That was purchased from the Brooklyn Museum. That's my artist named Kars. You know that, that was his biggest sculpture he did at that particular time. I decided to drive the drink and invest in that thing. What neighborhood was that? That was at Verona. No, I live in Jersey. No, Verona was in Jersey. Jersey, no? Angle Ward. That's what the bitch is. Angle Ward, Jersey? That's not, um, that's not, um, what neighborhood is that? That's not Pomona. That's life after Pomona. That's Eddie Murphy, old crib with a 40 feet, that's a 40 feet sculpture in the house. And the reason why I bought that was because I seen a lot of people in our culture not really, um, giving it up. So, you know, the 40 feet, Kehinde Wiley-ass in the house, come from the Brooklyn Museum. And I just wanted to inspire people that come to the crib to understand that art is a blessing. And when they walk through the crib, they see everything from that 40 feet to 12 by 12. So, you know, so it's entry point. You can afford this and you can work your way up to that. You know what I'm saying? But I seen a lot of my peers, they put, you know, different, uh, high branded artists in their house that never connect to them. Everybody in the Dean Collection, I know personally. You know what I'm saying? I started the Dean Collection as a personal gallery for my family. And then I seen how many lives I was changing from the things I was buying. Then I started, I gave my, I gave my social media platform to all those up-and-coming artists, which started no commissions. 100% back to the artist. So let me ask you one thing before you get up right here. I don't know. So, um, on that Cash Money tour, it was like, it was like you were spanny fresh. Me getting many fresh. Like, I mean, because I mean, our comparisons. So on that Cash Money tour, War Friday tour, that was the first. So what happened? Ain't nothing happened. What was supposed to happen? No, no, no, no. Let's see. I ain't gonna lie. I gotta take a piss. Oh, like 17 hours. I'll take a piss, I'll take a piss. That's why I bought you the pamper. That you have on the world. You got a diaper, stint pendant. You got a pamper. On the Cash Money tour. On the Cash Money tour. Yep. It's you guys. It's you guys. I'm tuned in. It's they guys. Yep. Uh, X got the hottest record in the East Coast. At that particular time. And then, Juvenile. Cash Money. Cash Money. They got the hottest record. They killed it. Who was closing? That's what's up. Who was closed? Like this. This is a tour? Yeah, I'm tuned in. Roughly out of Cash Money tour, it was very easy. Some nice day of close out, some nice week of close out. Depend on the region? Yeah, it wasn't like Rough Riders Rocker Fella tour. Rough Riders Cash Money tour was different. The only thing is that we had to give a lot of chapters to them. To handle a person with beefs. Choppers? Yeah, we had to give a lot of chapters. Literally choppers. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so it went down. 16 plus and all them things. We had to get chapters to them to get them the personal situation that they had because of the jealousy that the South had between them at that particular time that we understand. You know what I'm saying? So we got tired of going out after showing dance until like, you know what? Here go your work. We got our work. You know what I'm saying? Everybody a man for themselves. And it's just got to go. Shout out to the entire cash money. I fuck with them all. They all very talented. And we had a lot of fun. Uh huh. I don't want to be because Swiss don't want to. I'm so ready. Whatever you want to go. You still ready to go. But I got to take a piss. I'm peeping right now, bro. I'm going to the second one. Look at the white people. Paul, more. I respect it. You see they pour more drinks. Who? The white people. We in Illuminati. You got to accept it. Nobody told me this. Nobody told me and you. Nobody told me this. Nobody told me this. Nobody told me this. Nobody told me this. Nobody told me this. Nobody told me this. I Know you're not a fuck you and fuck with the fuck you came from Fuck a fuck y'all man Respect that yeah This guy just came with some crazy shit Yeah, I'm blaming on you listen dumb drum I ain't got the check here bro you get Yo Like that DMX DMX yeah, we're gonna see you all time Backwards I'm gonna go six six six degrees of okay, who's your favorite new little all time How new niggas gonna be all time Time Kendrick that could be Kendrick I'm just saying Who's who snorked like that my favorite new person yeah new person I mean I mean it oh, okay Mmm Okay, it was a new part that's horrible Man I sort of got we got a fucking winter shop Operation that's happening in there Restaurant Asked me talk to me Bingo I'm no more shot. I take the top sauce. No, no, Tiger Bone is a shot that has to be had. I take the top sauce. I mean it. Tiger Bone is a problem. Listen, I gotta go to bed. I can't be all... Yes, I have to go to bed too. We're all human beings. I'm in the city by myself. We're all the same, you and me. You made that point. Oh, I poured too much. Give me your shot, buddy. No, no, no. I'll take it. Okay, you take this one. Give me your... Give me a little bit. Give me a little bit. He's going to make some noise. Wait, wait, wait. Hunchies. Relax. I'll give me the fucking shot glass. I don't want to cheat. I mean, shot glass for shot glass. It's organic. I can take it. You can take it. Where's your shot glass, Swiss? Swiss. He's good. He ain't hitting that, Tiger. This is it. Oh, no, no, I'm not giving you the bar. What the fuck is that? I'm just gonna do that to him, bro. How would you do that? What would you do? My lip is bitter. There you go, man. A little more. Are you good? No, that's good. Trust me. Wait, bro. Come on. Hey. You too? You're out of here? Oh, shit. I feel good again. Oh, shit. I'm gonna dance like Michael Jackson. I'm not supposed to announce that, bitch. Oh, shit. All right, I'm out of here, bro. One of the dopest... No, I'm out of here. Bye, bye, bye. I'm out of here. Yo, peace. Yo, I'm gonna give you five. Can I ask you a producer question real quick? Wait. Oh, this guy wants to... One of the dopest... One of the dopest Instagrams I've ever seen. Instagram, huh? Was when you was with your ex-wife and your new wife. Yeah. That was dope. You know, progress is the key to life. You know, a lot of people... It's my fucking... Shit, sorry. Excuse me, Swiss. Nah, that's all right. The Tiger Bone just fucked me up. It's all good? Go ahead. You know, my divorce was a very hard time in my life. And to be able to have my ex-wife and my current wife in great standards, great form due to our kids and put our kids first, you know, I was like one of my biggest highlights ever in life. You know what I'm saying? I'm serious. I've never been at the Wist for that. A lot of the gossip, a lot of people that, you know... We don't care about gossip over here. No, but let me tell you something. The reason why I was able to handle even gossip different was because I understood why people hate. People hate you... People hate to use it as a cure for their insecurities. They use hate to use it as a form for them to lift up their problems. I was like, that's why I hate it so popular. That's why negative news is better than good news. Absolutely. Because it's a cure to people's insecurities that they got to deal with every day. So if you could look at a Swiss piece in Leisure Keys' life and it's not perfect, and you could pull yourself up from that for two minutes, that's the view that you're inclined to have to feel better about yourself that day, even though you ain't did shit about yourself that day. You understand? So for my ex-wife and my current wife to come to standards because of kids and forget about the fame and the publicity, you know what I'm saying? That was the greatest time of my life. You understand? So... We got chapters for that coming. That was the beginning, you know? Relax, mother. I've been relaxed. I've been relaxed since I sit in this mother's fat. You know what, Swiss? You know what? Because we appreciate you for coming here. I just wanted to give you the best interview ever. You gave way more than that. No, because I know him. I know him. I'm not here for no other reason but to contribute to what you guys have going on being great. So that's why I'm like, ask me whatever, handle whatever. I don't feel like I got to talk to anybody. I don't owe anybody an explanation of any of my past, present, or what I'm about to do because I grind really hard for that. But you know what? I'm on my brother's show and whatever he want from me, I'm going to give it to him. Problems, no problems or whatever. After that, we just got to deal with it. We been dealing with that shit all our life. There's nothing. This man then created a platform and figured that out. That's bigger than music. And I'm happy to see him shining in 2017 and beyond. I'm really happy to be here, like for real. I came here with a bunch of corporate people. We love corporate people. We have Zoomer. We're going to Norris show. Let's go. That's right. And then we're going to Zoomer in the morning. What's Zoomer? We're going to tell 11 in the morning. 11? Yeah, 11 from the morning. 11 is tonight. To 11. I'm going to bed. Because Nigga tired from that goddamn Texas Dubai timeline in life. Yeah, but Swiss, we want to thank you. But how do you take his tan? Like, what the fuck are you using on his tan? Because he's not going to stop my handy-tongue. But he can do that. Like, what are you using? A tan? A great accent, buddy. Fabio? Fabio, Fabio, Fabio. Fabio, Fabio, Fabio. Come on, tell him. Don't call Fabio. Let me tell you something. I wear the Versace. Fabio's a good guy. You know, I shave my bowels. I clean. I'm not here on my underhands. I'm not just his. You know, those guys are for pepperlepew. You know, Fabio, Norriega. Fabio, Fabio. Fabio is hard. Fabio is hard on the ground. No, but, but, but, but, but. You know, he come in with the main code. We kill animals. Fuck it. Fabio. Hey, Norriega. Fabio is hard on the ground. Fabio is, he's on the ground. The show I got written for Fabio is just a smack from crazy. Fabio's a problem. Fabio, look at that. Fabio's show, man. We be like, Fabio. These is looking her. Fabio is looking like. He went in on the Fabio show. No, Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. Is it Fabio or Fabio? Stop stressing out. Juice press. Juice press. Juice press. Relax. Everybody relax. And we got the Bocardi people. Look at the, look at my man. We're bored of them. I'm sorry. Come over here. You know, other Bocardi people don't fade out on the left there. I'm like, oh look at him. He's from Bocardi. We're in Bocardi. Tell him, tell him, tell him, tell Norrie what's your love for hip hop. How do you know him? From Boyler Room. Tell him. No, serious. Tell him. Tell him how you know Norrie. No, it's from Boyler Room. Talk to his mic. Tell him how you know Norrie. From Boyler Room. No. Talk to his mic. No, fuck Boyler Room. Tell him how you know. His microphone. I grew up in Miami in the 80s. Oh shit. I ain't know 80s. Okay, Tab. Hey, you from the 80s? Listen, listen to him Norrie. Listen to him. What did he say? Grew up in Miami in the 80s. And how do you know Norrie? In the 80s? Well, I was in the 90s when I really heard you. What was the first song you knew about him? Thanks Swiss for putting me on the spot. Well, well, well. Say, well, well, well. Super thug. Super thug. It's a super thug. Yeah, yeah. You're a liar. He was super thug. Swiss double-giver really failed. Double-giver failed. He's not great. He's not great. I spoke to him. Yo, he's not great. Then I had too much for curry. Yo, Timothy's a big bang. He's not a good candidate. I'm not the best fan ever. I'm not the best fan ever. Unless we can cut him. Yeah. He can cut that. Yo, black. Yo, Paul, can you sit down? I'm not a black-tailed one. Okay, ask me the realest fucking question you ever thought about in your life. No, we're going to end this show right now. Yeah, we're going to end this Swiss show. No, we'll never end the show. I want to ask me the realest question you ever wanted to ask me in your life. Let's go. Let's go. This is nori. This is drink chance. Yeah, question. What's your question? Ask that. No, the realest question you ever wanted me to answer in my life. Are we scared? Who won the bottle between Jay and DMX? Well, you got scared. Yeah, Mike. Look at that. Paul, jump into the mic. That's too easy. Shit. N-O-R-E. I know you're her. I know you're her. I know you're her when you did that video. When he told you what he was going to be about. Yeah, you know what he's going to do? You know what I'm doing? You know what I'm doing? I'm going to do a live. I love your motherfucking shirt. I'm going to do a pen challenge. I need the realest question. Paul, no, I'm doing it. What the fuck, Paul? Oh, God. It was just a drink. It was just a drink. We're all excuses him for the reason. You made me cough on everybody. Give me the realest question you want to ask me tonight on Drink Champs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not scared of you, motherfucker. I got a sap-o-say hat on. Let's go. Good. Ask me the realest question tonight while we on Drink Champs so we can get these ratings out this door. What the fuck was the question we asked? It was not you. The question you guys asked. What? I don't need the main question you guys asked. I got a question real quick. It's a normal question. It's a normal question. What do you want? E-S? E-S, man. You gotta do it. You gotta do it. I ain't budding. E-S, man. You're a tough guy. What do you ask me, bro? E-E-S. I'm completely confused. The only thing I got to mic right here is... Oh, you eat ass! That's a damn-a fucking lie. Why the fuck would I eat ass? Oh, fuck you! You asked me that! You don't know what I'm talking about. Damn. How you going? That liquor? That's our drunk sauce. That's our drunk sauce. My brother. What's up? How does it feel to be married to Alicia Keys? That was your question? Yeah, I know you had the air. Do you forget sometimes? You know, my wife is a special person. Beautiful. Let's suspect. Let's make some noise for the next few years. Let's make some noise. Yeah, I can see. You know, she woke up at 6 a.m. in the morning and said she's going to the women's march. Wow. I was tired. It's the women's march. You want me to come with you? No, it's the women's march. Okay, go to the women's march. Take them, shoot them. Take them back. As long as you're protecting them, I'm good. But she really about that life, and she's been about that life way more than... way more than publicized, you know. I remember going to Africa with her. Wow. I went to like four hospitals and seeing her facing these hospitals. And the last time I was like, babe, why they got your face in these hospitals? They said, these are my hospitals. I said, whoa, you own these hospitals? I married to her. She didn't even tell me all these hospitals she went to. She built them shits. She owned them hospitals. She didn't even tell me as her husband that she owned those hospitals. Like, it didn't mean nothing to her because the gift that she was giving back meant so much more. Yeah. You understand? That's what I'm dealing with. She's another time of its own. I ain't never seen nobody aberrating on this. Definitely not. It's an angel from heaven now. Seriously. We in Africa, in the trenches. I'm not talking about Africa. I'm talking about Africa. Two different heads. Yeah, it's two different tones to that shit. Manhattan, the Bronx. It's two different zones to that. So I'm going to Africa and I'm seeing people living and making it off of being 30 pounds and surviving off of medicine that they're able to afford. And I never knew that my wife was afforded in this medicine. You understand? She never ever told me the story. I didn't even know why we was even in Africa. I just knew that we was going there and I was going with her. Wow. And I've seen these people getting antiviral medicines, medicine, something that they couldn't afford and I'm like, damn, we're losing all these people for no reason. And I've seen all these people survive under her watch. You understand? My wife feed over 300,000 people a year and never talk about it. 300,000 over. Her own money, her own brand, her own things, never talk about it. I'm like, this is her. You're going to tell your own husband. You understand? This is shit, another type of thing. That's crazy. I got a lot of work to do even still today. Wow. I had a lot of work to do. You know what I'm saying? She put me on my A game. Seriously. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. That's real. talking about the visual arts when I just knew that the sonic arts was over-exaggerated. And I could have came in again with no commissions music and give the musician 100% of what they sold. But I was just so tired of even talking about music. It was just an old thing to me. And I seen that my way out was art because it was something that was still untapped and it was something that hasn't been abused, but abused. It hasn't been abused the way that we witness abuse. But it's still not been abused. But I've seen that the abuse that they went through was still a capture. And we can still capture that. It's like, hmm, we got whipped, beat, stomped out, kicked us in the fire. They just got punched in the fucking face and talked to us. You know what I'm saying? Well, I figured that the arts can be saved. And I had fun doing it because it was an untapped territory for me. I was literally tired of talking about things that we can excel in doing in the music industry because it was so jaded and stand. We were so spoiled and it was driving so much traffic. And the music industry didn't want to invest in technology. They didn't want to invest in future living. And so, you know, I've seen all those different things from a role and I've seen art as something that was still on that rebellious line of whatever we want to do. And I've seen those lines of confidence. I've seen those lines of expression. And I say, yo, I want to get behind that. You know what I'm saying? I know they don't want to problem over here. You know, so on the street level, I felt comfortable. On a visual level, I felt comfortable. On an artistic level, I felt comfortable and that's what I went with.