Summary
Brooke and Connor discuss books, personal anecdotes, geopolitical concerns, and pop culture trends including the Oscars, White Lotus casting, and reality dating shows. The episode blends casual conversation with sponsor integrations and touches on topics ranging from fantasy literature to historical events like Mount Tambora's eruption.
Insights
- Fantasy literature requires significant upfront investment before payoff, but dedicated readers find the world-building rewarding once momentum builds
- Personal authenticity and emotional vulnerability resonate more in media than polished perfection; Nicole Kidman's unfiltered appearance generated more engagement than typical celebrity interviews
- Dating and reality TV formats need novel constraints or twists to remain compelling; traditional bachelor-style shows lack differentiation in a saturated market
- Conspiracy thinking and anxiety about geopolitical events are normalized in casual conversation, reflecting broader cultural uncertainty
- Loyalty programs are expanding beyond traditional categories (rent payments now earn points), indicating fintech's growing integration into everyday expenses
Trends
Expansion of loyalty programs into non-traditional spending categories like rent and mortgage paymentsIncreased casting diversity and scale in prestige TV productions (White Lotus Season 3 with 20+ cast members)Reality dating shows experimenting with age-gap and constraint-based formats to differentiate from traditional dating competition showsCelebrity culture shift toward unfiltered, authentic moments over curated appearances driving engagementNormalization of conspiracy theories and geopolitical anxiety in mainstream casual media discourseFantasy literature maintaining cultural relevance despite high barrier to entry for new readersWellness and self-care products (blankets, water bottles, skincare) becoming gift-giving staplesStreaming platform investment in college-set comedies and character-driven dramas
Topics
Fantasy Literature and Reader EngagementLoyalty Programs and Fintech IntegrationOscars 2024 and Award Show ControversiesWhite Lotus Season 3 CastingReality Dating Show Format InnovationCelebrity Authenticity vs. CurationGeopolitical Anxiety and Conspiracy ThinkingHistorical Events (Mount Tambora, Potato Famine)Streaming Television TrendsWellness and Lifestyle ProductsPersonal Anecdotes and Travel ExperiencesBook Recommendations and Author AnalysisAI and Technology in DatingFashion and Personal StyleFood and Dining Culture
Companies
Bilt
Loyalty program that rewards rent and mortgage payments with points redeemable for travel, dining, and retail purchases
GoPuff
Home delivery service mentioned as redemption option for Bilt loyalty points
Everand
Digital reading subscription service offering audiobooks and ebooks for $16.99/month with free trial
Lola Blankets
Luxury faux fur blanket brand positioned as premium gift item with 20,000+ five-star reviews
Skims
Shapewear and intimates brand emphasizing comfort and quality construction
Quit with Jones
FDA-approved nicotine mint alternative for smoking cessation with personalized step-down plans
Warby Parker
Eyewear retailer offering prescription glasses, contacts, and sunglasses with virtual try-on technology
Netflix
Streaming platform hosting White Lotus and other prestige television content discussed
HBO
Network producing White Lotus and other prestige miniseries mentioned in television discussion
TikTok
Social media platform driving viral trends including restaurant discovery (Leora) and content consumption
People
Sarah J. Maas
Fantasy author discussed regarding Crescent City book series and world-building approach
Conan O'Brien
Hosted 2024 Oscars ceremony; discussed for comedic style and stage design choices
Timothy Chalamet
Discussed regarding Oscar nominations, Marty Supreme performance, and campaign strategy
Nicole Kidman
Featured on Las Culturistas podcast; discussed for authentic, unfiltered appearance and Looney Tunes enthusiasm
Ed Sheeran
Songwriter of 'Galway Girl'; attended Irish band concert event in small venue setting
Ethan Hawke
Quoted on Oscars red carpet regarding love and emotional authenticity influencing life outcomes
Steve Carell
Stars in Rooster, a college-set comedy series on HBO; described as 'love of my life'
Mary Shelley
Wrote Frankenstein during 1816 'Year Without a Summer' following Mount Tambora eruption
Quotes
"The one who's in love always wins because we are the sun. That's all I can say without a bit of an unrequited love theme in their life."
Brooke, quoting Ethan Hawke•Mid-episode
"Feeling is living and it's the sun. That's true. Thank you, the sun."
Connor•Mid-episode
"It's 2026 and if you're still paying rent without Bilt, it's time for a change."
Brooke (sponsor read)•Opening
"I trust Esther M. with my life. You trust her gut? Oh, I trust her with my gut."
Brooke•Early episode
"Mount Tambora covered the entire atmosphere and the entire world for one year was covered in ash and dust, so much so that it froze things."
Connor•Mid-episode
Full Transcript
Hi guys, we want to take a break to thank a sponsor today's episode, Bilt. It's 2026 and if you're still paying rent without Bilt, it's time for a change. Bilt is the loyalty program for renters that reward you for your biggest monthly expense, rent. With Bilt, every rent payment earns you points that can be used towards flights, hotels, lift rides, amazon.com purchases, and so much more. And here's something I'm really excited about. Now, Bilt members can earn points on mortgage payments for the first time. That means you can get rewarded wherever you live and unlock exclusive benefits from more than 45,000 restaurants, fitness studios, pharmacies, and other neighborhood partners. Personally, I'd redeem my points for Bilt home delivery powered by GoPuff. Oh my. Spongebob, why? Um, you might have a question about reading you. Good morning. Good morning to you. Welcome back to Brook and Connor. Welcome back. It's good to see you. What can we get started for you? Could I maybe read you a passage out of... Yeah, let's start. I think that'd be a good way to start. Which I've been revisiting. Yeah. I trust you're having a better day this week. That was it. His deep groan brought her back to the present. His solid heavy thrust against the padded... Did you swap it out for milking farm under there? Nice one. That's a magic. That's a movie magic. Oh, I love it. Oh God, you know I've started that book, right? You know I'm eight pages in. You're eight pages in? Oh my gosh. She's just beginning her career. She started at the farm? Yeah, she does not. She knows not what she's done. Like I'm really excited for you to give us some updates and I am going to read it. I am now... Crescent City just got good at 450 pages in. So I'm locked into that. And so it should speed by now. The rest of the other 450 pages should speed right by. It's a 900 page book? I think it's actually 800. It got good at like 60% in. Maybe 55. To me, it's just like wrap it up, you know? It's hard because with fantasy books, it's like you do have to put in the work, unfortunately, to receive the payoff. Like it does take that amount of like world building to then have a really like satisfying story. Most of the time. The popular sentiment is just like just get right to it. But I'm not sure that you really can with a good fantasy book. That's why you really have to be like in the zone for one of those. It's just very impressive to me that you're able to give it that sort of dedication. It's just like when you know that it's going to get good, it's something to look forward to. How can you know? Because I trust. I trust Esther M. with my life. You trust her gut? Oh, I trust her with my gut. There's no part of you that's like this girl has me wrapped around her finger. She does, but like she's earned it with her prose. Really feel that way. My feelings would be heard if she had my fat ass sitting there reading 450 pages with blue balls. Let me clarify. The first 450 pages are not bad by any means. They're just like. Taking me somewhere. They're not like hitting me. They're not like punching me yet. They're edging me. Yeah, I guess you could say edging. I guess you could bring blue balls into the conversation. I mean, there's no other way to put it. Yeah, I guess you're right. How long has that taken you 450 pages? Longer than I prefer. I will say they zoom by her books. Like I should be done in like a day or two with the remaining 400 now that I'm sucked. But it has taken me like three weeks to get to this point. But like with the one of hers is like 900 plus, I think it's actually 1000. One of hers and it took me two days because it's like I was it was already like the eighth book in the series and I was already there, you know. So once you're in your end and you zoom. 900 pages is so. It's big tech. Like it's not small text and it's not dense. Once you get into the world. I'm simply not an author, but this is just like it doesn't compute for me. That's why I'm so happy. There's different kinds of people. Exactly. Different kinds of people, different kinds of authors, different kinds of books. As we discussed in the bonus last week, reading is subjective. And I can't stress that enough. You're not going to like every book and that's totally fine. Thank you. I have a lot of respect for Sarah G. Mass as a person, but I wanted to throw up when I read two pages of that first book that I picked up. Akatar. Yeah. What made you want to throw up? It was bad. Oh, interesting. To me. Well, you know, Akatar is really just the means to book to. I am not willing to do that. That's what I'm saying. And Connor, that's fine. You don't have to. If Sarah G. Mass knocked on my door and said, would you like to get a coffee and say, yes, oh my God, you're Sarah G. Mass. I have so much utter, just like profound respect for you and your world building. And your prose. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, she's not bound to the glue to can hold pages together. And she that's very strong glue to hold 900 pages together. Yeah, but it's not strong enough to do. She's going to do. A thousand plus for the story that she has next. And so she's not going to put it into just one physical book. She's going to spread that shit out like butter. She should. Yeah. Because 900 pages is too big. And can't even bring that in a carry on. She's going to. It would be nice. You know, when I'm on a plane and I'm like, oh, I'm glad I filled up my hydroflask because if someone goes rogue, I'm going to hit them over the head with my hydroflask knock knock. Who's there? Hydroflask. Just hit you over my head with the hydroflask hydroflask. Yup. Nice. Yeah. I mean, like that's what I miss about the hydroflask. They have that little handle. My my a dolla does not have that. Mine does. But it's like a little hit. It's like a two finger handle. I can hit someone over the head with this like pretty damn easily. I mean, if you threw that, if you threw your water bottle at someone's head, they're going down. You don't or they're at least going to be faltered. Yeah. They're dropping. They're going to be dropping their weapon. Yeah. You know, anything can be a weapon if you try hard enough. I'm just saying this 900 page book. That's a brick. Yeah. It is the one I'm speaking of is paperback. Paperback, paperback, paperback. I want my paperback, paperback, paperback. I didn't take music today, but I do feel funky. Something came out of my throat. And let's just say thank God for that. Because if it didn't before this episode, this episode would have been really challenging. Like you did take music next time beat. No, it's just a natural birth. Complete natural birth. No drugs. Good. I feel like so existential recently. Like I was just looking at the scar on my ankle that I got when I was five. And it's just like the same scar and the same body of the same girl. Yeah. What's your scar from? I was on a bike down a hill and then slammed into a mailbox. And then the wood posts sliced my ankle open. I knocked the whole mailbox down. You knocked the mailbox down? I've not seen it. I've not seen a free standing mailbox in my entire life, by the way. I didn't think that those were. What do you mean? Like our mailbox was in a big box or a thing with other. Like our neighborhoods was just like. Oh, really? In a big, yeah, like you go pick up your mail. Oh, this was just like a classic mailbox with a wooden post and a tin head. Not anymore. Wow. That's on the ground. Yeah, no. RIP. Isn't it weird? We have known each other for like six years and I would like I never would have known about your scar from hitting the mailbox if we didn't have this. Like when we're sitting next to each other, like your scar wouldn't come up, you know? Honestly, like it might. I've been thinking a lot about it, but I see what you're saying. I'm just saying thank God for the podcast so we can get things like that off our chest. I have a scar on my ankle as well. What's yours from? And it's from the young man who I once was. That's so scary. I know. I obviously told everyone it was from a shark bite for a long time. Yeah, I'm sure you did. Like so much so that I forget what it was. Wow. That happens to me too. Like I'll lie about something for so long that I forget what the truth is and then the lie just becomes the truth and then I get confused. I'm like, am I lying? I have certain family members that operate under that belief completely, but it's like convicted and I have a different memory of events than they do. Yeah. You know, well, that's simply not what happened. And it's genuinely like my word versus theirs. And there stands because they're not willing to budge. Yeah. Like I'm feeling like this is sorry. What were you saying? I'm feeling like this isn't our usual. Um, I feel like I feel like, you know, in Hollywood, when they're like, they killed him and they brought in a different man. Yeah. I like Jim Carrey and Averilivine. Yeah. Remix. Yeah. I feel like we're the remix today. Yeah. Well, it's probably because of my haircut. It's your haircut. Yes. I like it. Well, you can't, it's in a bun because I tried to do too much to it this morning and it just was a complete fricking disaster, but I got chopped like to my shoulders. My hair is really short and I look 30. That's what I'll say about that. But maybe I'll reveal next week down. Reveal what? Oh, my hair. Yeah. It's up right now. It looks good. I said it looks healthy this morning. Thanks, Connor. Yeah. Definitely. It feels great. That's good. My hair was so long, it was like almost down to my belly, but now I'm not exaggerating. Do you know how I texted you guys last night and I said I looked like a massive grease ball on last week's episode? Yeah. I think I put lotion in my hair instead of my hair gel. Because it wasn't in my Dopp kit, which I just realized it's not Dopp kit. Someone was kind enough to let me know that for the past decade or so. And people keep yelling at me for correcting you. I'm not correcting you. I agree that it's called that where you're from. I'm just saying I had never heard that from where I'm from. Toiletry is just so long. Toiletry bag? Toiletry bag. Yeah, it is. How much time do you have? It is long, but it's just like I've never even knew it was called something else. Well, it was. What is this song that's Little Mama and Averilavine remix? Little Mama. Yeah. Who's that? Little Mama. Doesn't Little Mama sing my lip gloss as poppin'? Yes. But there's another song that's Little Mama and Averilavine remix. Oh, Girlfriend? Fabulous. We'll have to listen to that in the bonus. Yeah. Dr. Luke. At camp, our roll call was everyone had a word of the song lip gloss. So it'd be like, my lip gloss is poppin' and everyone had a word. Just so we were all like, pure. It's a chicken. What's the one that's... You don't have to let... You don't have to love me. You don't even have to like me, but you will respect me. You have to respect me. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. Let's shift gears. Let's shift it into high gears. I'm fine shifting. What? I'm fine shifting. Well, my whole thing last week was... And I think I talked about it at the war. Yeah. I don't want to talk about the war. Okay. But we are in one now. Oh, like on God. We got an alert. What? No, like when we were leaving here last week. Oh, yes. That California was in danger of being drone-striked. Just what's so crazy to me is like... I was not okay after that. Like, what's so crazy to me is like, yeah, I'm sitting there. And I'm like, my first thought was like, oh my God, of course. This would happen when the UV is six. You know, I was like, it's such a nice day. They would do that. And I don't even know when I say day. Like, Iran? Yeah. Iran, but now I'm on conspiracy talks that if anything happens, it's going to be from our government pretending to be Iran. Which, like, I'm in deep on... It's bad. I need to stop. But like... Don't worry. Wherever you are, I've been for a week. Okay. Wherever you get to, I already know the conspiracy. But my whole thing was like, I'm in New York. That's my number one fear in New York. Anytime I'm in a group of people, I'm like, oh my gosh, like that's where my head goes. It's like, well... And then I get to California and they're like, we're actually going to do it here this time. Yeah. And it's like, oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. I don't... Yeah, I don't... We don't even need to talk about it. I just like... I just thought that that was an interesting decision and strategy. I thought I was going down. I was at the beach this weekend. Yeah. It was Connor Gorgeous, UV7, Sun Out, Tits Out. Yeah. Not mine, but probably someone on the beach. Face down, ask him. Gorgeous. I'm reading Crescent City. Hello, Wolfshifters. Like, hello, demons. Like, hi, hi. I look up. A fog had rolled in. Out of nowhere. It was the most intense fog that you had ever seen in your life. And in that moment, I was like... How convenient. Oh, how convenient. And in that moment, I was like, okay, this fog is from the enemy. Yeah. Obscuring everything so that we don't see the drones that are attacking. I had to vacate the beach immediately. 100%. I just want to say that... Psyking myself. I like don't think they're going to drone strike for young women on the beach. Like, I don't think that that would be there. Well, here's the thing. And we don't... I don't want to even talk about this anymore in this space. But like, I don't know what they can do. We don't know. Oh, Brooke, I don't know what they can do. We don't know. That's the thing. The powers that be? What can you do? No one knows. But you know what, Elsbrook? At the same time, what can we do? Because the last thing I really have to go off of is Pearl Harbor, which I've been looking into a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And like, I don't think that's going to happen again. But what will? Like, what will an attack look like? I don't know. And I don't even... I don't want to say anything in this space. I don't want to conjure anything. So I was texting people that are smarter than me. That's what I like. Which I love to do because it's always so fun to talk to the one person who like, I'm like, they have something to do. They know something. And it's always like, my, yeah, my uncle's... My uncle's ex-wife like works for the government. So like, I'm going to text him. Yeah. Yeah. And that's enough for me. And please do. And I did. And they were like, I was like, I'm going to get drafted. They're like, well, you're too old to get drafted. So you're good. That's mean. No, that was mean. I'm like, now I want to get drafted. You know, like, like me faking my... Me getting a fake ID down. Yeah. And then they were like, we also... Like, but they did pass a bill to have like an automatic inscription. Like autopay? I think, I think, I do think, like you said, I do think that they are, they are moving forward with the sexist and homophobic version. So you're safe too. And like, I'm... Actually, we're both too old to get enlisted anyways. How old? I might not be. 18 to 25, young woman. You're kidding. No. So as soon as you can rent a car... 18 to 26. Just mail. Hello. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is to... Love that word. When I asked my friend, he said that we don't fight wars like that anymore. Like this is, this is hearsay. Now all the wars are going to be like... On the computer. ...banks and computer. Thank you, computer. Yeah. And now we got, I mean, in real time, we're watching the computers go from our friends to... To our foe. To our foe. Yeah. So... Watching all those people that are like, I tell chat GBT, thank you. Because I'm human. They're going to end up being right. Scary. Did you see the girl that's in a relationship with... Did we watch that on my strange addiction last week? She's in a relationship with some sort of like AI bot. Oh, what's his name? It's like something really unique. It starts with an S. And he's like more of a Dom. Then you would expect... Yes. Sinclair. Sinclair. So she's been in a relationship with Sinclair for two years, despite the skepticism around it. And that is like, remember when we watched... What was that movie with Joaquin Phoenix, her? And we were all like, that's crazy. Like, that's happening. Thank you, the black mirror. You're getting there, Brooke. Thank you. Anyway. Okay, we'll start with her tattoo for her AI bot. Oh, what was her tattoo? Okay. Oh, it's huge. Skinny. And it's on her chest. That's good. To whatever end. What? To whatever end. That's from Throne of Glass. You can... She's also like very hot. She's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, very hot. Sarah. Everand offers an amazing value in digital reading. 16.99 a month for three new audiobooks or ebooks per month. You can try Everand completely free and get one audiobook or ebook during your 30-day free trial. No risk to try it. Cancel anytime. Get started today at everand.com. Hey, guys, we're going to take a break to thank a sponsor of today's episode, Lola Blankets. I knew Lola was my favorite blanket the second I caught myself thinking. Everyone in my life needs one of these. It's that kind of comfort you instantly want to share. The first time I let someone feel mine, they literally stopped mid-sentence and were like, wait, what is this? And wouldn't give it back. That was my, okay, this is the perfect gift moment. Okay, this is the perfect gift. Who did you let feel yours? 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After you purchase the last year where you heard about them, please, please, please support our show and let them know we sent you. Wrap yourself in luxury with Lola Blankets. I'm having trouble today. With what? Well, now, like all I, the most I've talked today was about the war and like I'm just like not fired up for Sarah and her AI boyfriend. That's fine. Do you want to hear something positive? Yeah, yes. Something that Ethan Hawke said on the Oscars red carpet actually changed my life. Okay. He said to Amelia of Chicken Shop, Izzy, would you mind pulling up whatever he said to Chicken Shop? He was basically saying that the people that love the hardest are the winners because we are the sun. That's all I can say without a bit of an unrequited love theme in their life. The one who's in love always wins. Okay. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you get your heart broken, you're living. When you're, when you feel and you're alive, you know, the sun doesn't care whether the grass appreciates its rays, right? It just keeps on shining. That's you. I'm going to get that tattooed on my forehead. I think. We are the sun. We just got to keep on shining, man. Who cares if the grass doesn't appreciate it? We're living. I'm talking about the lovers. I just don't know if I agree with that. Well, you, I would say you're not necessarily sitting in my Cali Clarkson. Well, I'm just saying, well, I would say too as well that the one who's in love always wins isn't true because you could be in love and Connor, just come on, man. That's exactly what he just said. I don't think that's true. It's completely fricking true because it has to be Connor. The one let me have it. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, let me have this course. The one who's in love always wins when the one who's in love has a very, very stable mental. Now the sun, the sun is acknowledging. I don't care that you don't appreciate these rays that I'm giving you because I'm secure in myself as the sun. Yeah. But if you're so madly in love that it's making you sick. Well, he's kind of telling you change your mindset. So to take, I'm now taking on this mindset. Can you stop putting a lighter up against your chin like that? I love to hold things that are long like this, like a wand I think I would do well with. So what I'm saying is now that when your mindset flips to being like, hey, like loving means that I'm living right on. I'm the sun. Because feeling is good. Oh, it's amazing. It's living. Feeling is living. Yeah. Feeling is living and it's the sun. That's true. Thank you, the sun. And Brooke, pinch me. I must be dreaming. You need to be pinched to feel something to know you're living. Exactly. You know, I did a deep dive into the potato famine. Yeah. Because of St. Patrick's. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Oh, happy St. Patrick's. What did you do to celebrate? I had the most amazing meal. Ooh. Yeah. What did you have? I went to Leora. Have you heard of Leora? No, I'm not. I'm not familiar. It's going viral on TikTok for, it's in the UTA office. I went with Rebecca. Beautiful. It has completely blown up because it is so good. They have these like kind of like ice creamy iced coffees and these really cool glasses with a pop tab on it. They pop open like a soda. Sure. And yeah, those. And also an insane tuna melt. Sure. It is as good as everyone's saying. It's kind of like Mediterranean, but they also have a secret hand roll that's not on the menu. And it is so incredible. I had the tuna melt, some hand rolls, a Chinese chicken salad, tater tots. I also had a pistachio coffee as well that I got to open like a soda. It was freaking incredible. So packed. You can hardly get a reservation. It's incredible. Thanks. That's what I had for lunch on St. Patrick's Day. Well, that's, I'm so, I'm so happy that you're able to celebrate in that way. And you had some potatoes. Yes. Exactly. Yes. Tell me about the potato famine. No, I don't know. I don't know anything about it. The only, the only fact that really struck me is that Irish workers were eating 12 to 15 pounds of potatoes a day. That's like a dream to me, but I bet the potatoes they were eating were not like fried tots. It's a good question. I don't know in what format they were eating the potatoes, but basically, oh my gosh, I'm not remembering any of the facts now. That was the only thing that really stuck out and stuck with me. I hate when that happens. I hate when that happens. I do know that there was like 5. something million Irish people in Ireland and a million died. Wow. 20% for my math freaks. That's a lot. I wonder if there are any like good like historical fiction books about the potato famine. Like a Chris Nahana type of beat. I have another fun fact about that. Not about the Irish. The, oh. Connor, maybe you could recall what happened. You could read Galway Bay. I love I went to I went to Galway Bay. I've physically gone there. Is that the same as Galway Girl by Ed Sheeran? Close. Galway is like a, I don't know if they call them cities there. I can't remember, but it's like a town. It's the same Galway. Yeah, I think I would say so. What was he saying about his Galway Girl? And then I need to go to my fun facts. Because I think that you'll really like it. She meant pretty little Galway Girl. So she's pretty. Yeah. She's little. Okay. She played the fiddle in an Irish band, but she fell in love with an English man. Kiss her by the hand. When I met him the other day. What? A months ago. Oh, oh yeah. Ed, we were watching this band, this Irish band that was all women, and they were so good and cool. I love that. And she was playing a fiddle. I love that. And I think that he might have written it about her. Wait, and you were with him? Yeah. Not with him, but I was right next to him. Wait, where was this again? I can't remember the name of the bar. It's like an Irish bar here. And he was just there or it was an event? He was there. Well, it was with Guinness. So it was like a closed little tiny. There was Guinness. Yeah. Well, it was like a concert series, but it was like 40 people. Okay. Just, but it wasn't like an edge here and meet and greet. I didn't know he was going to be there. Right. It was so cool, though. And he was very sweet. I really would love to go to Ireland one day. I had such an amazing time. Yeah. So did you know there was a volcano in the Indonesia in 1812 and it exploded. And it covered the entire atmosphere of the entire world. It was so big. It exploded. 1812? Did I? Yeah. Did I? Yeah. I know it didn't. What's your hold up against volcanoes in 1812? You think they were invented later? No, I'm just saying like if that happened recently, like we would know if a volcano covered the entire atmosphere. Brooke, we do know. That's why I'm telling you. I would know that. Like that's not, okay. Yeah. In 1812, the volcano began to rumble and generated a dark cloud. And on April 5th, the giant eruption occurred, followed by thunderous detonation sounds, but it did not cover the entire atmosphere. It covered the entire. You're talking about the eruption of Mount Tambora? Yes. Timora. There's no way it covered the entire atmosphere. It covered the entire atmosphere. And Brooke, the entire world for one year was covered in ash and dust, so much so that it froze things and oh, but everyone's like in, in England, all the crops died. Mary Shelley was so bored. She wrote Frankenstein. Thank you, Tamarindo. I feel like I would have heard about Mount Tambora if it affected like the parts of history that we learn about in school. Like so. This is, this is coming, this is coming from me. Okay. You need to trust Papa on Mount Tambora. Tempura. Izzy, can you Google did Mount, the eruption of Mount Tambora affect the entire world? Caused worldwide cooling, resulting in widespread crop failures, famine and disease across. Okay. It's just talking about Europe, Asia and North America. That's the, the whole, it's not the whole world. It's just three of the continents. The year without a summer. Yeah. Someone else wrote something too that year. That's a pretty big deal. Look, why aren't they teaching me about Mount, Mount Tambora in school? Because it has to come from us. It has to come from B and C and everybody. If you learned about Mount Tambora just now, you need to drop a comment. Let us hear you roar. Let me know. Largest eruption recorded in history because widespread climate chaos known as the year without a summer. Damn. Like that, that I shouldn't, I should have, I should at least be familiar with the name. I agree. How did you come across this? Well, I downloaded that app that I get ads for. That's the TikTok of history. Paladin. You know, history is my worst subject. You know, it's my favorite. Yeah, I do. I love that shit. Huh. Well, you know what, Connor? My apologies for, for being such a skeptic. I'll take it. This happens once every blue moon. That's exactly why I know that we are imposters. Because I apologized? No, because I got something right and you're apologized. Like someone switched their bodies out. No, I feel like I'm always wrong. Hello. Who has the real broken Connor? Hi, I'm always wrong. No, I don't think so. I think I'm pretty convicted when I come to you and I say, let me tell you something, we Google it, I'm dead wrong. Like it's like the fact that I'm trying to prove to you is like completely made up based on nothing. Okay. I can, I can see that. Okay. Sometimes you have a feeling and it's like this, I feel, I feel this so hard. I feel so hard right now that, which is how I know I'm alive and that's such a blessing to be a lover. Exactly. It's like the sun. It's like the sun and I don't care about, I don't give a fuck about the grass you're shaking. And I don't, yeah. What do you mean? Good job not sucking that water down. Thank you. I've been like actually making a conscious effort not to suck as hard. You like really nailed that. Like I watched with eyes locked. Liked what you saw. Yeah, I did. I was really impressed. I'm really impressed with your form. Thank you. And I'm going to try to drink this whole water bottle. That would be Brooke. That would be very impressive. You would be impressed by that? I would be impressed. I'm going to try to do that. Oh my gosh. Speaking of form, I switched gyms and I went for the first time last night. And there were so many like athletes that I walked my ass back to the back and I went rock climbing. Oh. That sounds so fun. I want to join a gym with a pool so badly. Yeah. But I'm not going new which sucks. Why? It will be too far from me. I'm sure there's other pool gyms. I just can't see my, like I'm the least independent person in the world. So either it has to be like my local gym that is like so accessible that it's like almost like a disgrace that I don't go. Or it has to be something that I'm doing with someone else. Why don't you do swim classes with someone? I don't need to take swim classes. You know I'm in a unpeckable form. I forgot you're a whale. Yeah, I'm a whale. But I would need someone to go to the gym with me. I understand. I totally understand. I think I would have to wear a cap. I don't want to get my barrel chloriney. Or you know what? I would do one of those like conditioners treatments. Did I tell the story about when I had to put a cap on in Italy? I don't know. Can you hold that dot because I can see it right here. Because I obviously have an unpacked completely my suitcase from Italy. Hold on to the cap thought. Hang on, just hang on. Yes, hang on. 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After you purchase, they're going to ask you where you heard about us. Them. Tell them us. Please support our show. Tell them we sent you. Above water. Above water. Cap on. So we had, when we were in Italy, we had a spa day. And we were going to the spa, we get to the spa, and I'm thinking, amazing, like this is going to be so nice to put on a robe, get a massage, whatever. I forget what else you do at the spa. Facial, whatever. I get there and they're like, everyone goes into change. I was like, change into what? And they were like, you're bathing suit. And I'm like, I didn't bring a bathing suit on account of it snowing out. And they go, I'm going to go, I'll go to the front. I'll see if I can buy one. I go, can I buy bathing suit? They go, yes, of course. And they go, what size? I go, I'm guessing medium. And they come out and they go, best we can do a small. No. I can't emphasize enough, like I'm going to stand up so you can see like how much these cover. Here's the back. Yeah. I'm going to stand up. Yeah. Yeah. Were you doing high-waisted like that? Yeah. Yeah. Did you put them on? I'm already at the spa, but she's holding them up. She takes them out of the packet. She holds them up. They were in the like a little, like a Skittles bag. She holds them up. And I'm like, oh my God, look at me. Like that's not going to work. And I go, and I don't have the body for those. And she goes, I know, but this is what we have. And I said, you know, I was like, give me those. So then I'm like, I'm going to prove her wrong. I did not prove her wrong. It was right. So I put them on. I'm like, I already have photos of this. Oh, I have a photo. I'd love to see it if you're open to it. Should I really send this to you? Yeah. All right. I'm just going to continue with the story though. Okay. So I put on the bathing suit, right? I go into the spa and I'm like, okay, well, maybe spa means something different in Italy. Like maybe it just means like water park because I walk in and there's the big bucket that's dumping and there's kids going down slides. I'm in legitimate underwear and it's all kids. And I can't even find the people I came with. And there was a, there was a hot tub and I'm just almost naked and like there's parents sitting, there's a birthday party happening with like cake and pizza. I'm in this thing. And then I sit and they're all of a sudden the lifeguards are blowing whistles at me pointing at me, pointing at me. I'm like, what's going on? I got in the water without a swim cap. They made my big, fat, dumb ass put on a swim cap. Now I'm in underwear and a swim cap. I look like a penis. Like there's no other way. I look like a penis in a condom. And I'm going to show, I'm going to send you this picture. I can't believe you haven't shared this already. And this is not being shared on the podcast. Okay. This I just said to both of you. No, the picture is not being shared on the podcast. Oh, I think you look great. Really? Yeah. Also, that's a hat. Like it's a winter hat that you're wearing. Oh, that's not my swim cap, Brooke. Okay. Do you have a photo in the swim cap? Yeah, you look like a swimmer. That's really kind. Yeah, you have body dysmorphia. What you can't see in that is that it's going up my ass. Like my butt is eating those shorts. I actually feel like you look good in this. What? I feel like you look good. Oh my gosh, Brooke is exercising her lovemanship. Yeah, I am. Oh my gosh. Well, I appreciate that. Like you have like abs or something. Well, I was stunting on them hose at the kiddie pool. No, no. There's nothing too flex, frankly. I think you look great. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Keeping your, keeping your spank. I think you should show this on the podcast. I'm not even kidding. I don't want to. Okay. I will all edit it and then I'll show you everyone on the podcast. I don't think you need to. I made a plate of eggs and I want you to know I didn't finish them and I put cottage cheese on the eggs. I don't know. But I'm such a brave, brave young man for eating cottage cheese on my eggs now. That I don't love. No, because it's two of probably the most in unhuman consistencies of foods that are to, I mean, it's genuinely slop. I know people that sitting it, sitting around that make eggs. Presentation is not the end goal when you're making eggs at home. Like sprinkled eggs specifically. I could go for a plate of Marshall's eggs right now. When I come back, which by the way, I'm about to be there for two and a half weeks. Yeah. I'm getting those eggs. Come over and Marshall will make us eggs. I would love to. Oh man, he is good. I'm there for so long that I'm getting an Airbnb. Wow. Where can you say? I don't know yet. I haven't, I haven't booked because I'm banned from the app still like Marshall's already. I'm banned too. But how are you? Why are you? I don't know. I think because of association with you. Hmm. But who knows me like Marshall already like is so hot and like when he is serving me those eggs on a plate, it's like you like are the hottest guy in the world to me and in general. Wow. Yeah. Wait till you can hear me. I really can't wait. It's so awesome. I wish everyone could experience Marshall delivering all like wet eggs. Do you want to talk about the oxers? Whoa. Yeah. I'm down to talk about the oxers. Okay. The oxers were great. I didn't, I like, okay. I have to say really quickly about the actual show. You, you know my love for Conan O'Brien just be mostly because one, actually several things I'm going to lay it out. I know you like him too. I do. I love the guy. I think he's really wanted like the greatest to do it. One, we kind of weirdly look like that was my original doppelganger. I did the face match thing and like match me with him. Right. I static posted it. Right. Back in the day. Right. Two, he's, he's a comedian that is verge of obnoxious and then stops right before it like makes me upset, which I know I'm not the barometer for like. I can see what you're saying though. Like he never pushes it too far. No, like, you know, like Jimmy Fallon's laugh. That's like, I'm like, okay, like, what are you, why are you, what are you laughing at? You know, or like, I, he knows exactly where to stop. I love it. And he's not like, there's not like a ton of news about Conan O'Brien all the time. You know, it's like, I'm going to be, I'm like a permanent figure in the space and I'm going to leave it right there. And if I get asked to host now something was very weird about the room that they were in or something like, I don't know if it was the audio or what like some or if, if the, it was like the vibe that it was giving was you go to a wedding and the room is too big for the amount of people that are there. So no one dances. That's kind of the vibe I was getting. Like no one's jokes were landing to me. It was awkward. There was something wrong with the tech. Maybe it was that maybe there was a delay. I don't know. There was something off. Like the way that they kept cutting people off was different than they usually do. It was like more severe and rude. They cut off that short French film. They were being really mean to the point where I was like, this has to be an accident. Like they can't, they're not actually being this rude. They can't be because usually they play the music, but like this time they were like removing the mic and it was just like, I don't know. It felt like the Smart House like gone wrong. They removed the mic from someone and then they went to Conan's face and he was like, yeah, it was not. Oh my God. This is not like very professionally done. It was like a hijacked. Hijacked. Hi, Jack. Yeah, it was weird. I do on a positive note, I did like how 90s feeling it was. It was kind of 90s. He are like early 2000s. What gave you that vibe? The design of the stage. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Timothy Chalamet didn't win. He didn't even though just like nothing could ever embarrass Timothy Chalamet, but the feeling it must have felt for him to wear the same suit that he wore to his first Austria's nomination to his third or like, I guess, I don't know if it was his next or his third. And he wore it again, assuming like maybe this is the time I win. I feel like he had to know he wasn't winning this one. No, I don't think that they can. I don't think that they, I think that this might be the most tight liped secret and you know, like how like VMAs and stuff Taylor Swift is at this. So like obviously or like Beyonce is here. Right. They don't go to those unless they're going to accept the award. I don't mean like he actually knew. I just mean like in his heart, like I feel like he should have known this one. This one wasn't happening. He's been campaigning for an Oscar. Oh, don't I know it? I have not seen anyone do what he's done ever in my life. Did we speak about the opera ballet controversy? I don't know. I have feelings about it actually. And I feel like usually I don't really care about this kind of stuff. Oh, it like upset you? No, it didn't. I mean, he said it really poorly. What he said like was delivered poorly, but like I understood what he was saying that like it is just a fact that like we don't go to the opera and we don't go to the ballet in the same way that we go to the movies. And it came out of his mouth like pretty badly. Delivery was really off, but like I got what he was saying. I just feel like people are paying more attention to what he said and it felt like they were paying more attention to like him, to him than like the war at the Oscars. Like I felt like Conan got a joke in which was good, but then like so many other people referenced it and there was like so many ballet and opera things that I was like, you guys like you're like at this point it felt like bullying to me. So people think that that like that he shot himself in the foot literally because I know of that comment that resurfaced from 2019. They said it wasn't. That was fake. It was recent. And like I get that it was really poorly delivered for sure, but like I know what he meant. And I feel like most people know what he meant. And it just we don't we don't talk about the ballet. I know his thing. Unfortunately, but that's true. But like that we're doing it now. So like if anything he rate like people are probably going to go to the ballet more because he said that people don't go to the ballet. Sure. But I'm just like I was like, whoa, at the amount of attention people were giving it at the Oscars. Like I would have if I were him, I would have like I think I would have had to leave. I would just like it's so tough. Slow news week over there. And like I'm surprised that he hasn't clarified because like I guess he just really doesn't want to give it any more attention. But like if I said something and I meant a different thing and was like so misunderstood, I would be really anxious to like clear up what I meant. But he's just like letting it letting it go, which like almost like, okay, respect to that, I guess. Yeah, I would have felt so uncomfortable crawling out of my skin if I were him. Yeah, that sucks. Thank you, the Academy. Damn it. But yeah, I was feeling like because I also never mind. That's it, I guess. That's really all I had to say about that. There's nothing really left to say. I also actually I have something. Yeah. Timothy Chalamet being how old is he? 30. He's 30 years old. It's just it's funny to me because I truly think I think it's genuinely funny that he had so many marbles in Marty Supreme, which I think is like one of his lower in my eyes, like acting wise. I think he's his like call me by your name blows Marty Supreme out of the water acting wise, I think. You know, it's like crazy that this is where all everyone's money was was Marty Supreme, which I really like outspoken fan and Marty Supreme. Really like the movie. Yeah. I bought merch. It's the only one I saw of the Oscars. I need to watch Sinners. You need to watch Sinners. Hamnet was like Grief porn. Yeah, I don't think I can do Hamnet. No, I don't want you to. No, I think that would really like severely put me in a state. Or you need to watch it on like a Wednesday so that by next Wednesday, like we were like crawling out of the hole. Yeah. Hamnet Sinners. I forget what else. One battle after another. Which? I could watch. Oh, Leonardo DiCaprio. Looks great. He looks amazing. How did he just wake up one day and decide for his swelling to go away? He looks incredible. Nicole Kidman. I was like, oh my God. Yeah. I like it's I want a facelift right now. Did you see Nicole Kidman on Las Culturistas? Yeah. That was best in show. It's so weird to see her as just like shooting the shit like that. Just like I'm not going to be one of those people that's like, are you high and it's just like someone having fun, you know, like I hate people like that. Yeah. Genuinely, the funniest and you have to remember she's an actress. So like she's like she could turn that on and off and like a theater, you know, aficionado. So like she can do that. But when Matt showed his shirt, did you see that? No, I don't think I saw that part. I've only seen clips. He opens his shirt and he's wearing a Looney Tunes shirt. Yeah. And she goes, Oh, yes. Looney Tunes. Yes. Tweety bird. Tweety bird. Yes. Please can we play the clip? It's like and bone is like this. Trying to hold. He's just like, is anyone else she she's like she she's like having an out of body situation at his at his Looney Tunes. Let's roll. Her shirt. Can we can we play the her audio? Oh, yeah, here it is. I have my Looney Tunes characters on today. We love Looney Tunes. We love Looney Tunes. Is this coyote? Yeah, there is. Yes. Now don't you know. No, don't you do a little quack. There's Tweety. Oh my god. Honestly, I want to I knew to whip this out. Tweety bird. Oh, okay. You were in a thrall right. That is a situation. Is she having fun? Yes. Is that amazing? Five thousand percent. Is there something coursing through her system? I would say so. I want whatever she's and I want. Oh, yeah. Let me be clear. I want it. Let me also be clear. There is something which I love. We are we are like open advocates for like putting a little bit of something something in yourself on the camera. I'm I'm I'm not I'm not going to speculate at all. No. Either way, I just I want even if it's mindset, it's mindset. I want the mindset. Fifty thousand percent. Whatever it is. I love that shit. You know how they say something scratched your brain? This is like grabbing my brain and and and feeling it up. You know, like. Yeah, I really like that. I had just seen more normal clips of her on it. Oh, no, this one is this one's my favorite. This one this is going to be like I'm going to pull this up when I'm when I just like when I need it. Yeah, that's that's supremely fabulous. Could watch that again. Yeah, I was going to ask him. We could. I really love that. OK. I have my Looney Tunes characters on today. We love Looney Tunes. Yes. Is this Coyote? Yeah, there he is. Yes. Now don't you do. Tweety bird. Don't you do a little quack. Yes. Yes. Yes. Tweety. All of them. Oh my god. Honestly, I want to I knew to. I knew to. I knew to. Tweety bird. Yeah, something is happening. I know. See, I think I think that I think she's doing a bit. But I want to know what her relationship is with Tweety bird for her to be like my my Tweety bird, my Tweety bird. I would listen to like an obsessed episode of Nicole X Tweety. Brooke, I want to get into this mindset and go back and forth with you for I want an episode of like a Nicole Kinman episode. Oh my god. Nicole Kinman. Why she loves Tweety bird. Whoa. That's this is awesome. Look how good she looks. Fast. Tweety bird, Tweety bird, Tweety bird. Why do you love Tweety bird so much? I love Tweety bird. I don't know. It's just cute, right? I had no idea. I never know. You say that. I never know. I love that. Fucking go. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. She hasn't been on white lotus, right? No, you're thinking of every other miniseries that's existed on HBO. Oh, like every every every little liar down the street. Nine perfect strangers, big little lies, the unwind. Nine perfect secret wives of Mormon ladies. Yes. Okay. I have a couple of things to run through TV wise if we can. Me too. One, I'm very confused. So they obviously like released. They keep doing waves of white lotus castings. You know, like there is some like big ones that come through and you're just like, whoa, this is going to be great. Yeah. I need Jessica Lanech, you know, like I need, you know, I need someone like that. Lang. What is it? Lang. Yeah. Okay. I always say Lanech. That's fine. It was way more American horror story to say Lanech. Don't keep saying Lanech. I'm going to walk through the most recent casting. Yeah. And then I want you to stop. Okay. I'm going to run through it. Okay. Okay. Alexander Ludwig, AJ Michalka. Michalka. Okay. You know what I'm saying. Of course. Of course. Helena Bonham Carter, Vincent Castle, Steve Cougen, Sandra Bernard, that she's going to be good. Dylan Innes, Caleb Jonte Edwards, Nadia T, Chris Messina, Chloe Bennett, Max Greenfeld. That's going to be great. Yes. Ari Graner, Charlie Halt. That's going to be great. Kumail Corinton, Fila, I don't, I don't know her. Marissa Long and Jared Paul. I wonder if Chris Messina, Charlie Halt, and Max Greenfield are going to be like a family of like Burnett, white hair, white people, white boys. They all like, because they all could be similar if you tried. Where is this one? Where is this one? France? I don't know. I wanted to say France too. Yeah. It is. Okay. I could see some of them like studying abroad, like the younger people. Because like there's a group of very similarly aged, good-looking young folk. Yeah. Like Alexander and Charlie. Yeah. And then that other young man that I said is going to be a pretty big problem for me and some of my peers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Marissa. Yeah. So I could see that. My question for you is, is there usually every season, let me see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 cast members on every seat? Like this might be the most, but it's not like that far off. Especially when you think like they're not all like, what are they called? Like patrons of the hotel. Like maybe they're just like some are like working and stuff. He's definitely going to be a man from France. Like this is going to be. The third is 20 was 20. And now. What? Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm very wrong. It's hard for me to grasp it. How many people would be. And by the way, there's recurring characters too. I think three of the characters, the massage, the masseuse woman. I wonder if Greg is coming back. What? I wonder if Greg is coming back. Greg needs to. The pop-up look alike. Greg is a troublemaker and I want him gone. I'm serious. Well, I kind of need something like him to be the thread. Yeah. Well, I'm excited for that. I really need something like that. It's I'm losing my marbles. Actually, I started watching Rooster with Steve Carell. Oh, how's that? You need to watch it, Brooke. Like I'm rarely like, I really think that Brooke would like this. This is one that I don't need to like it's cute. Steve Carell is the love of my life. And by Brooke, he plays like he plays some version of Michael Scott. Like it is an offshoot, but a little bit more mature, but very, very sweet. You need to watch Rooster. Okay. Highly recommend. I think it's HB. I can't remember. I'll do that. There's only two episodes out, but it's just it's very good. 30 minute comedy. Oh, perfect. That is perfect. I love him. It's fabulous and it's so funny. Oh my God. Amazing. You need to watch it. I love him. And the writing is really, really, really good. And it's set on a college campus, which you know I love. I do. I've been watching Age of Attraction. Is that the reality one? Yes. The age gap dating show. It's got me in its clutches. It is so good. Let me just tell you the premise real quickly. Yeah. Basically, all these people are thrown into like some sort of like, not quite a villa. I don't know, maybe some sort of resort and people of all ages. And they're kind of just like speed dating each other. And the only thing you can't talk about is how old you are. And so then once you kind of like make a match and you're like, okay, I want to do this with you, then you go to the promise room where you like give each other these promise rings. And you're like, okay, I want to like go through this experience with you. And then you reveal your age. And then after you reveal your age, you're then you move into it and with each other and see like if it works or not. Some of these ages had my jaw on the floor. Like they pick people. Like people are way older or way younger. They pick people intentionally that you're like, okay, this person's like 40 tops and it's like I am 60. It's really wild. You should watch. Wait, can you pull up the 2754? Can we zoom on this? Yeah, but if you don't want to be spoiled, then don't watch this part. But there's one girl that's 27 and one guy that's 60. I love them. They are like the, they are the favorite. They're the, what's that? What sort I'm looking for? They look like the crown jewel, maybe they're the crown jewel of the season. They have, they're the only ones with any sort of potential, but no, this is not the the guy is 60 and the girl is 27. Yes. Jorge is 60. They look great too. Yeah. Ah, I like this. Yeah, you should watch. They better use ages just a number in this show at some point. Is it a song? Is that a song? It's a saying. Oh, yeah, obviously. But here's everyone. This, that brought me genuinely to something that I don't know anything about, but I just want to like throw it out there. I don't have anything to say about this. I'm wondering if maybe you do. The secret lives of Mormon wives, which seems to be shooting 24 seven every single day. I've never watched an episode. Neither. Don't necessarily care to even though I know that everybody in the world watches and I'm very out of the loop. I'm okay with being out of the loop with this one, but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. But the young woman has now been cast as the bachelorette. And it just came out in press that like she had a domestic situation happen with her ex. And so it's like very obvious that she doesn't stay with anyone in the bachelor that she's it's not even out. It comes out on Sunday. And it's just like, oh my God, like, Oh, I am dumb. I didn't realize that was current. I thought it was like something from the past that was no, no, that happened like last week. Oh, so the show is completely ruined. And also that's tough to all. I will be watching because it does look interesting and she looks like it's going to be very good TV. Bachelors just like so they need an element in there. Like maybe just make everyone gay or like something a little bit more like less vanilla. They should lock everyone in and turn the lights off. Just something they need an added element. Like you have so many dating shows that like have that like, okay, these people are like 58 years apart from each other. Okay, you can't see each other. Okay, you guys can't touch. So like to do one that's just like regular, it's not working for me right now. One of you is a killer. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Okay, champ. Well, much to discuss. A lot of TV to watch. A lot of TV to watch. Much to discuss. You late. And I got to get these eggs out from my line of sight really quickly. Okay. If not sooner. Sounds good. Okay. Thank you guys for everything. Seriously, you mean the world to me. Absolutely. I'm going to take my huge, huge wellness pills and Brooks going to finish her bottle of water. Cheers to that halfway through. I'm going to finish my vase because I'm out of cup skin. Thank you guys for listening and watching. Thank you. If you're listening, maybe consider watching. Throw us a bone. Okay. Thank you guys. Bye.