#177 - Mandal

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It's 420, of course, dude. You know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew that. Absolutely knew that. We're recording this at 4am at 420, and we're putting it out at 6am on 420. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you know, I don't know about you, dude. I said, when it's 420, I set the alarm for 12am, and I wake up and I smoke weed and I listen to Sublime all day. That's hard. And you know something? I don't smoke weed, but I do that same thing anyway. Yes, anyway. You just listen to Sublime at midnight? Listen to Sublime. Eat Sublime Donuts. They got Sublime Donuts, I mean? No, what are Sublime Donuts? Atlanta Sublates got Sublime Donuts. Okay. Because I thought it was an L.A. thing, because they have a... I will give L.A. some credit. They have a great donut culture in there. Absolutely. I didn't know Atlanta had it, too. That's awesome. The L.A. one is the best one. They have... The Cambodians. It's always an ethnic group that's just so good. They nail one thing. You ever seen that documentary about it? No. So it was actually a dude... It was a Cambodian dude who, I think like refugee who came to California and worked for this donut shop. Hell yes. And then he worked so long that the dude taught him how to buy one. And then so when people came from Cambodia... You just set him up? He would like set him up with donuts shops. That's awesome. I love that shit. That's how like a lot of Jersey motels, it's Indian families, because they would just like live in the three rooms and run the rest of it. And they were like, they would just bring... It's fucking genius. Greek people just fucking... We run diners and then we teach no skills to upcoming generations. And then we get into the arts. That's basically how it goes. Greek people really don't have... Like Vietnamese people, apparently it was one lady after Vietnam that showed like 20 Vietnamese women how to do nails, like one rich lady who felt bad for them for being refugees. And just, I think she was famous. I don't remember who the fuck... And maybe we even talked about it on this podcast. Have we, Eldis? Why am I asking you? You have no fucking idea. You're so bad at your job. Does that ring any bells to you? Kind of. Did we just talk about it recently? No. Who are we talking about? Well, who's the celeb we said? It was, I think we said the wrong celeb. I think somebody said Marilyn Monroe when it wasn't her. That would be crazy. But it was somebody who was, and God forbid you fucking Google it. It was a Jane Fonda? It wasn't Jane Fonda because Jane Fonda was out there on the tanks. Jane Fonda was looking awesome, dude. She was like, I'm with the fucking Vietnamese, which I get right now, dude. Let me not, you know, Mando's career is coming up. I don't wanna fucking... I don't wanna say how I feel about geopolitics right now. But let's just say, I see where Jane Fonda was coming from. Listen, man, one thing for sure, bro. And we just say Mando was on the podcast. We started talking about donuts. We'll get back to it. Because I do, we're about to go to Atlanta. We've been to Atlanta. We were just in Atlanta, as we all know it's 420, but I'm interested about these donuts. Man, thank you all for having me on the program again, bro. Of course, dude. I'm a favorite. I been on the program twice, went on the roll, lot of the tickets were people from the program. And I'm gonna say, I can't eyeball them before they say it. Yeah. Before they say it, I'm like, I know what you see me on. I think I have a hunch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's cool, man. That's beautiful, man. Yeah, I appreciate that. No, we're an incubator for plus-sized talent here at Stavey's World. Absolutely. You know, that's our vertical. People don't really think about it that way. But across all lines, a fat identity cuts across all lines. Man, that means so much to me, bro. Because I've been in the comic club, I'm like, y'all got to cut the capacity in half, though. If I'm gonna get involved with it. Yeah, man. Yeah, that junk is cool, bro. Yeah, you right though, man. We gonna lose this junk to Irana. Oh, yeah. I don't know how I'm about to say this. I know. It is crazy to just be like, I'm rooting for Ron. It's a weird thing, bro. It's like, you know, March Madness just finished up. There are 16 seed that's hanging with the one seed right now. Bro. You know what I mean? You know what? Maybe 16 is unfair. Because we're not a one seed anymore. We're a two seed. So there are 15. But you know, China is definitely the one seed. It's one bracket. Yeah, we'll do this through college basketball. But you know, it's odd to me, though. What's that? When you go on YouTube, every expert is like, hey man, this is looking bad for the U.S. And I'm like, I know somebody told them that before the YouTube man knew. No, I don't think they did. No way this information got to me before them. I really don't think they did, dude. They're like, I mean, it's mountains, man. They're like, let's fucking go, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hegs says something. They're like, yeah, we're gonna show them. After, you know, PbO is saying he's getting, he gets black dominatrixes. That that's his thing. That he let the drunk secretary defense. You got, you know, Lindsey Graham being secretly gay. I think they were all kind of hopped up. They're on a, they're on a, they're on a heater. I mean, we've all been there when you think you and your boys can fuck somebody up easily and then you end up getting your ass kicked. I don't think, look, unfortunately, I don't think the great Satan, AKA the U.S. is going to lose in Iran. I think hopefully we get the fuck out of there quick. You know, it's 420. Hopefully they blow a nice, maybe fucking Trump and then you I a tola got a smoke weed on 420. Okay, listen, I'm against podcasters having Trump on their show, but if the I a tola and Trump will sit down on Stavis world and smoke weed, maybe we have to put them on Kush brothers. We'll put that episode behind the paywall. Okay. Cause it's not about views. I'm not cynically inviting Trump and the new I a tola on for views. I'm doing it to heal. Cause as we all know, podcasters, when they get involved in politics, it always ends up good. It always ends up really good. And you know what I thought about that? As I said, my little take there, I was like, man, I have such a small knowledge of course. I'm basing everything. I'm saying off of three videos. That's fine, dude. No literature. Sometimes it's vibes and the vibes are bad here. I realized, bro, people got a process. My position in this world is to just throw stuff out. Of course, of course, of course. You know what I'm saying? There shouldn't be no, no, but I feel like don't hold me to account. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Up until you get a big enough audience where you can change the course of things. Yes. A comedian should be able to say the most ridiculous shit of all time. Unfortunately, the world has gotten so bad that there is no other media that has control of anything other than I guess Mr. Beast and like the Italian AI characters. I feel like the fucking little wooden bat and the fuck, you know, I feel like those characters and pod podcasters are now like, you know, like fucking Clark Gable or something. They're just like, like fucking, that's just our, that's our only culture. That's our only export is podcasting and AI brain rot characters. And can I say something I appreciate about you? I'm glad that you're the steals on YouTube and got that big shine on it. I hate the big shine on the YouTube. That's only because Elders doesn't know how to do it. I'm sure he would love to. What do you mean the big shine? Like when you go on like a famous YouTube or when you look at the steel photo, they got the AI shine on it. Oh, like that's super. Yeah, yeah. Like it's lit in a weird way. It's artificially lit. I'm sure Elders would love to do some out of fashion. I've personally made a few of those where I really up crank that contrast. Yeah, of course you have. Of course you have. And it is that is your role in the organization is to have someone with the lowest common denominator of taste because you would be fucking watching, Mr. If you dude, if you were live right now, you would be the dumbest person of all time. How much you how much you just have just supplicated yourself to AI. All I think about when I do this podcast, when we're picking the clips is what would I chuckle at while I'm taking a shit on the toilet? And I let that guy my face for everything we put out. And what's big, bright and shiny looking? Yeah, you know, that's fine. We don't have to talk about your fucking your media strategy. Elders, let's get back to these donuts. But yeah, but that's a mastermind that worked out. It's really not, man. I promise you, he is not a mastermind at all. And he's barely at work. Hey, listen, it's a middle mind. It's a middle mind occasionally working. I'm the exacts that have to, you know, show the creatives the way to have the math side. You're not an exact. You're my underling. Let's make that very clear. There's a clear hierarchy on this organization. I'm in the C-suite with you. You're barely in it. You're just, you're in the C-suite because it's a function we have almost no employees. He do go on a collar shirt though. He does. And by the way, every editor that we hire is so much more crucial to our fucking. They could learn your job so fast. You should be fucking sweating when we get in the office. Because once I start talking to people who actually have technical ability at this dude, you're fucked. You're going to be fucking, you're going to be the janitor of the new office, dude. You're going to get a demotion. I get under the hood, man. Sometimes the boss has to roll his sleeves up and do the work. The boss? You're not the boss. The manager. There we go. I'll give you that. You are a middle manager. That is what you were always meant to do. Anyway. He has such a zen approach to the idiot. No, no. I do envy Eldis's. That's why our, that is honestly why our friendship works. Because if Eldis was even a little irritable, we're fucked. We need to, like, that's the plus. That's the plus. That's what, that's the silver lining that comes with. Someone who is not reactive at all. You know what I mean? Eldis is never ahead of the curve. He's never affected. He will do what he was tasked to do, even if it's stupid. Even if clearly you should pivot, he's never going to do that. But that's positive. For sure. That has its positive. I'm in the cut, man. I'm ready for action. But, you know, never, never. You're really not, though. You're one of the least ready for action guys of all time. But that's because he has butt six feet, bro. That's true. When you talk, bro. Very tall, yeah. Every time I talk, and it's like, ah, we like, whoa. That's a good point. Put them in the cage. There is actually a type of, obviously look, I have no sympathy for the tall. They have the easiest lives of all time. We all say, babe. 100%, one of the, it is the equivalent. A woman can be hot in like 100 ways. If we're being realistic, tall is the overall Trump card. In terms of male attractiveness, because some women just want a giant fucking, you know, homunculus to make them look small and feel small. And let me say this, that young is rational. Rational. Looking for a tall man. It is rational. Evolutionary, you mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, on some like, on some like, if we all go in the war. Protect, yes. You know what I'm saying? If you want to somebody who can see the, sure, see above the crowd. Now you could argue, you could get a spear right through your fucking big, big, huge, tall head by being above the crowd. Yeah, but I'm saying, I think the, I think the guns or whatever ain't coming in the DNA. You know what I'm saying? That's what we built around. Yeah, yeah. The thing. I know what you mean. I think it's purely become symbolic. Okay, fair. Because no chance is Elders who you want to take you through the fucking forest. You know what I mean? Like Elders is bonking his head on fucking, on branches, you know what I mean? He's also like tripping easily. It's the bigger they are, the harder they fall. If we're being honest, you want, if we're, now we're just like, if I was a woman in the medieval times, who would I let fuck me? I think I would look for something closer to six feet. Listen, man. I like how the options are our three bodies. Yeah. I don't know. We aren't even discussing us yet. Yeah. I would get the leg extension, man. You would get the leg extension surgery? I would get it, bro. I don't know. I seen the recovery is crazy. But once I seen the video of the dude doing a crossover and he did that big jump, you seem to be, I know the guy with the dreads. Dude, he did this. Yeah, that's, that was big. That was big. That was big for the leg, for the leg extension community. Cause you could argue that until then it was about still, it looked like they were on stills. For sure. Still the recovery is crazy. I'm not denying that. It's like a year of your life. But one year away, bro. One year away. And I was Do, do, do, do. Yeah. Fly like an eagle. Well, you're not playing, you're never playing hoops. Do this? Absolutely. I always had it not being to the best ball. With the fact that I'm short. So you think in your mid thirties, you've been fat your whole life, you get bigger shins, it will immediately allow you to play hoops. Yes. Yes. I'm going to the LA Fitness. Immediately after recovery, I'm going straight to LA Fitness. I'm dunking on cats. I'm dunking on cats. I don't know about this plan, dude. I'm crossing somebody up. Did you play, what's the highest stage of organized basketball you played? Rec ball when I was eight. I played eight or nine, no, nine, nine. Rec ball at nine and ten years old. Nine and ten. That's just when they start dribbling, right? Cause I feel like I've seen. I mean, it's a little bit. True, true, true. Cats was dribbling like seven. That's fair. But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, you put that ball in my hand today, it's a lot of, the goal is far the way from it. Sure. One, six, two. Okay. I'm windmill dunk. You think six, two. You get moonmill at six, two. What? I'm throwing it off the backboard. Steph, I believe is six, three, right? Steph Curry, one of the greatest athletes of all time. He focused on six, three. And he doesn't dunk that much. He focused on the shoe and ass bed. I'm going. How old is Steph right now? He's probably 35, 36, 38. Oh wow. Steph's 38. Okay. So Steph hasn't dunked in, I believe it's been, I think it was like, see the last time he dunked. I think it was like a couple of seasons ago. He dunked in game. And again, that's one of the greatest athletes of all time. And you're how old right now, Mandel? I'm 32. 32. Okay. So you're six years younger. Let's say you have some commitments. Let's say you don't get to the leg lengthening surgery until, I don't know, the end of this year. Yeah. Let's just say top of next year to just be safe, right? So January 27th. So January 28th, you're fully healed, right? At that point you would be, that's two years. So you'd be 34. And you have again, been very fat. You've been very fat your whole life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm losing out of beat. And unathletic. And so you would be four years younger than Steph Curry is right now. And Elvis, what was the last time he dunked in game? Last time he dunked was March, 2025 against the Sixers. But the time before that was February 21st, 2019. Right. So Steph, when he was your age, was not dunking in the NBA. But you think, you think in two years time, you'd be able to windmill dunk with the leg extension surgery. Now, let me, I've got all that information. You thinking as I am with a five, six brain. Sure. You don't realize that once I get that six two brain, metabolically, I'ma be in a different place. Okay. Steph chose to use his powers towards shooting. Right, right, right. When I get my new set of powers. Right, right, right, right. It's time to jam. Elvis, if you, yeah, you're six six. When's the last time you dunked? I've never dunked in my life. Interesting. And he used it. He used his power for you two. He's not though. That's another bad example. He's got plenty of power left over. This has never used his whole power at anything in his whole life. I gotta conserve the brain power to get these clips off, to get that contrast just right. He's never used them. He uses them for land use. He type in, all type of stuff. I can reach the Y, the P key with my pinky over here. That's huge. Think about a proportionate goal right now. Sure. What's this about seven feet right here? I would say, yeah, let's say it is. I do windmill on this right now. You would dunk all the seven footer. I could windmill this right now. If you add a foot to me, then I'm doing it on a regular goal. That's eight feet. No, it's two feet. It's a multiplier. It's a multiplier on the legs. Listen, man, I'm with you. I would love to get the leg lengthening, but it's just the, you know, the recovery's too much. You know? One year for your leg lengthening. Where you fucked up is you were coveting basketball players growing up. You should have, you didn't play football? No, I play football. You gotta be a lineman, man. You gotta be in the trenches, dude. I was a defensive, I was a defensive end. Oh, defensive end. That was a nose tackle. Oh, that's hard. Right there, right in front of the center, dude. That's where you fucked up. You're trying to fly. Right now you're like a, you're a, you're a fucking, dude, you're not a sky type. You're a rock type, dude. You're fucking geo, dude, bro. I think you're trying to be up there. Lin, limit our scientific advances. You give what I'm saying? The, once I get the bread up under me, you would be a marvel if from now, right? And let's, let's give you the bed of the doubt. You're getting ready for the surgery. So you're probably going to get in the zone. You know, you're going to get your diet right. Maybe we'll get some, we'll get some steroids going. Yeah. You know, we're going to get some tea going. So you're going to get more. So I, it actually would be an incredible art project to dedicate your life to dunking one time. That's what I'm saying. I actually, I have now shifted. And instead of this being a stupid dream for a fat man who was coveted height his whole life. Now as an artist to say, can I transfer? Can I, we've talked about the, we like to talk about the metaphorical cocoon here, right? And to come out as a butterfly. You're saying, what if I could really legitimately get into the cocoon? What if you're in your larval stage right now and it's time to get jacked. It's time to get six, two. And that's, we're adding six inches. And think about that. Eight inches. You seen that, you seen that dude on YouTube. I know you be on YouTube. That dude with that pale skin. Who de-aging himself. You know what I'm talking about? Of course, Brian Johnson. Brian Johnson, yeah. Him? Y'all know that dude? Yeah. We don't know him personally. No, no, we'd love, Brian, if you're listening, we'd love to have you on. He would love to have you on. He drinking his son blood. Yup. Of course, we talked about that quite a bit. I think he's not, not only that, I believe, yeah. He's measuring his cock hardness against his teenage son's cock hardness, which is a wild, wild type of science to be doing. To be putting, I assume it's like a fucking blood pressure cuff that you put around your son's penis and be like, yup, my shit's getting as hard as my son's dick. Now think about this. He aging himself like this. Sure. I don't think it's working, by the way. He looks, he looks like, he looks bad. He looks kind of just like, he's become kind of gay. Which is cool, which is a funny thing for a tech guy to look like, but it's the glassiness of his skin that's weird to me. Yeah, the skin is hanging off the skeleton. The skin's not looking good. He's looking kind of gray, too. You know what I'm saying? And maybe that's a, maybe that is a tone thing, but he looks unwell. Like he looks, maybe it's all the algae, cause he looks a little green. Have you seen what he eats? Yeah, yeah. He's like a fucking algae smoothie. He's a broccoli. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it looks like shit. Maybe it's turning him less, you know, less vital, less. And look, I know Brian's watching this. He's like, these guys are going to die. They're fat as shit. Yeah, yeah. Who are we to judge? We're setting ourselves up. How old is he? Brian Johnson, he's in his 50s. But yeah, we are definitely, you know. We're setting ourselves up, cause they go look at us. They go look at us and be like, we would say that. Yeah, yeah, we're haters, et cetera. We respond, we're too fat, man. But that's why I would love to have him on, and honestly, for that matter, somebody like, although Brian Johnson at least is an adult with a fully formed brain, somebody like that kid, Clavicular, I would love to have like a Lincoln Douglas debate about the way you look at yourself verse. We would be the two sides of how to live your life. Cause he's like, all that matters is your body. All that matters is no enjoyment. He's sort of like an even more, like Brian Johnson at least has this thing where clearly, have you seen a picture of him when he was, when he was like, cause he, what was he like PayPal or some bullshit or some tech shit. He made so much money. And you look at a picture of him back then, he just looks like a shlubby shitty engineer. In some ways he's doing what you're discussing, except for him, because he's a fucking, you know, dork tech dickhead, who they have to be, they have to care about legacy, which is like, nobody, legacy is the dumbest shit of all time. One generation you will be forgotten. You need to be the greatest of all time. Like you need to be the greatest of at your thing to get four generations. Like dude, just now people are talking about like Caleb, what does he face from the bears? He wanted to, he wanted to trademark the nickname Iceman, which is something no one's ever called him. He did it himself. And George Gurvin is the Iceman. He's a fucking legendary, you know, one of the fucking coolest players of his generation. Nobody fucking, like we're in our 30s, we sort of know him, we sort of know him from, if you're a Hoops fan, you're aware of him, NBA street, all the legend stuff from 2K, that's how you kind of keep in touch. Kids now don't have any fucking clue. And that guy was awesome, dude. And that's not that long ago. I bet you kids don't know who like Dr. J, for example. They don't know who the fuck, and that's the 70s to now, that's 50 years, whatever. People worry about legacy are fucking idiots. You will be forgotten, bro. There's like eight guys that randomly get remembered, and they just got lucky. Jesus, you know, Julius Caesar, you know what I mean? Alexander the Great, you have to do so much. And you all honestly, to have legacy, you kind of have to be a sociopath. That's the only, the only people we remember from history are people who like fucking killed the most guys, essentially. Anyway, clearly that's a guy, he wants to be remembered, he wants to still be a scientist, but ultimately he didn't want to be fat and he wanted to get pussy. That's really what it is for Brian Johnson. So Brian Johnson, at least, is like, it's a nerd trying to be his version of like, he won't admit hot, but I bet that has something to do with it. He's saying it's health and he wants to be remembered for living forever, and it's this ego shit that he has to basically time travel. He thinks he's gonna be around for 300 years, right? Insane. That's, I at least can, I know where he's coming from. These kids, that kid, Klavik is like, what, 22? He hasn't even know, this is just how he's always been. He's never enjoyed. He's like this kid in fucking smashes, he's 20? Jesus Christ. He's some kid who talks about like, you have to look a certain way, you have to like, he's the kid who talks about looks, maxing and all this other shit. And I think he's just honestly an autistic kid who's obsession is like looking good, but they have no joy in their lives. They don't know what it's like to eat, to get fucking high and eat a pastry on a Sunday at 3 p.m. After you've just spent the evening with a woman who doesn't respect you, but has huge tits. They don't know how beautiful a day like that is, watching a movie on your fucking tits, watching fucking, throwing on, I don't know, Cobra, for example. So in Cobra on it and Airbnb, you know what I mean, ordering pizza, eating some pussy, even though it'll give you cervical cancer apparently, or you get cancer through the cervix or whatever the fuck, Michael Douglas style. They don't know, that's the beauty of life, is you have to do things that will destroy you. All the most beautiful things in life will destroy you. And you know, so anyway, I would love to have him on. Yeah. And, but that's my opposing philosophy is like, then you're not even living. If all you're doing is fucking, you're in a fucking pod at seven p.m. Cause it's optimal to sleep from seven to four a.m. And from fucking four to fucking five, you're red light therapy or whatever. And listen, could I stand to adopt a little more of that style of life? Sure. That's not what we're talking about here. Everybody's like, stop, it's a fat piece of shit. I'm just saying, what happened to fucking the enjoyment meter? You know what I mean? Why isn't that part of like, why isn't anybody trying to have a good time? That's what I don't fucking get. So anyway, I would love to have Brian Johnson on here. And yes, some will say we're being haters, but we're not. I think we're gentlemen that like, you know, sure we have problems, we have our issues, but we're enjoying ourselves or we're trying to anyway. Yeah, I agree. I think that definitely, you gotta have some balance. Like, I definitely think, like you said, I could pick up a salad a little more often. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I do. You could do a little, if your goal is to dunk, instead of thinking about the, maybe you could do a little, you know. I could get a push up in every now and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, a little sit up in there. But I definitely think you can't be obsessed with trying to make things in your control this night. That's a great way to look at it. We have control over almost nothing. Yeah, yeah. You could try your best, but you know, I think it can get obsessive, you know. Yeah, you can't obsess so, and ultimately, if we wanna get philosophical, is the body even you? Are you the body? Are you a different essence? I think probably whatever your soul, whatever the fuck, I think it's probably brain. But there's an argument to be made that it's, maybe it's not the brain, I mean, just some kind of fucking, you're a ghost in your body. Is the body really what you are? That's the thing about some, like these young kids, it's like, they just decided it's time to just purely objectify yourself. I guess that's the fucking, this is the logical conclusion to this much fucking growing up with consumerism and like, all, you know, and trying to get attention, but it's like, you used to get attention to try and get people to fuck you. That's the beauty, that's maybe that's what it, maybe we've gotten to what has alarmed me about these guys the most, is we have now completely taken that away. And to me, that's what has connected humanity from, I bet you the first time a motherfucker drew on a cave in like prehistoric France to, you know, me doing comedy, whatever, and to every Mozart fucking guitar players, dancers, rappers, fucking even athletes, whatever. Business meant for that matter, everything, everything has been done to get to, for almost like to improve your sexual currency. And these guys now have taken that out. It doesn't even seem like they like to get pussy. Well, it seems like they want other dudes to say they're fucking hot. Yeah, I feel like we commodified attention. Which maybe they're gay, which is fine. If they were gay, I would have, I would respect it so much more, but I don't think they are. Yeah. I think they just, but yes, yes, attention. I think they commodified attention. I think that it was a thing, I think now it's like you have a numeric value on how much attention you have. That's a good point. And I think that what happened was now, people are consistently trying to win that as a game of some sort. And the biggest thing I noticed was that with the YouTube or even with putting out content, where I kind of struggle with in my own career is that eventually you run out of stuff. Yeah. Like you're a person that runs out of things. And I've noticed whenever somebody runs out of things, they start reaching. Yeah. And eventually when you reach long enough, you go find some trash. Yeah, absolutely. Like I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure health man, what's my man name? Brian Johnson. I'm pretty sure he done gave us odd information he could probably six months ago. I believe, I mean, I think he's really pivoted to, he had like a, you know, the girl was fine looking, kind of cute goth girlfriend that was much, not even goth, I think she just was a brunette. But there was like, I'd be a couple of months ago, he just, he did like eat Taco Bell. Like he pivoted to, oh, now I'm doing bad stuff. Now, and then he started doing like mushrooms and shit, which is at least interesting. But yes. Yeah. Eventually he, you're right. You run out of something. And yes, people, you can't keep going to that well when it's empty. It's fucking embarrassing. And I think, bro, I think, I think like we become a little insatiable with the intention. Like we never have enough. It's always another thing that you could get. And so I think the only way to curb that is releasing yourself from that desire. Oh yes, baby. But I think that if you- You're speaking my language. But if you came up as a person where that was in the ZY guys too, always search for that in some capacity, you kind of just stuck in a loop. Yeah. I think this would be, I think a lot of young people were bestowed upon something, but they grew up in it. Yeah. In our age bracket, we have some reality before that. Sure, sure, sure. But that's your entire thing. That's all you know. Yeah, I think we all grew up in the sort of like consumerism, the like dark side of the capitalist shit is that you just gotta keep making money no matter what. You can't just, you can't just like have a profitable business. Yeah. And just like, oh, I pay my bills. This is great. The whole idea of capitalism is you have to keep getting more and more. You have to destroy your enemies and you have to fucking, you have to be the only business and, you know, and like at least, and the internet has just supercharged that completely because you're right. I think you nailed it when you said, they wanna make a number or they wanna be, you have to assign numeric value to things that are just ethereal, right? Even the looks, even trying to be like, you'll see these fucking insane people. They'll put a picture of maybe the hottest woman you've ever seen in your life and they'll be like, 6.2, Filtrum is degraded, you know what I mean? Like they know about parts of the body that no human being, that's not how beauty should be judged, right? Beauty should be a fucking ethereal thing that hits you in a certain way. And if, and as you start acting a little strange because you see something beautiful, you know what I mean? It affects your chemical. It does, maybe it is chemical on some level, but I don't wanna understand that. I wanna fucking, I wanna exist in poetry. I wanna feel, bro. Yeah, I don't wanna, I don't wanna exist in the technical manual, I wanna exist in the poem. I learned that through, I learned that through trying to get a little healthier. I lost a little weight, right? And I feel like when I first was, I was looking at all them people on YouTube and then eventually you learn, just eat the salad. Like it's really, yeah, you can get into the nitty gritty of it, but it could be not no, burger, no vegetable, yes. It's even, you know what I'm saying? What's pathetic, what's pathetic is it's even simpler than that. Sometimes it's like, don't eat the fries. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get them, you know what, get the burger. Get the burger and eat a fucking apple. And it's like, just because this month, I've been so fucking busy that I haven't been able to cook for myself at all and I've been ordering out a lot, but it hasn't been, and it's not great, but in the past, if I ordered out for a month straight, I would gain 10 pounds no matter what. But I've just been getting like chicken and fucking rice and yes, a fucking veggie on the side or some shit, but yeah, it is very simple. Yeah, I think that we, I'm telling you, I think that everybody just gotta make peace with, they are, it's enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You did it. Totally dude. And I think there's so much of a, I feel like once we start making, I think we have to get back to having, finding value in the things that we do every day instead of the result. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I think that if you go, if you're like, hey, I gotta get the number, you'll never have enough of that. No, no, no. You know, but you, even in comedy, like you could always get bigger and bigger venues, but if you kind of put more of the self-esteem in, and like I am doing a good product for these people. In the art, in the, yeah, for sure. This is the, I feel like that's more fulfilling, you know what I'm saying? You're 100% right. It's the classic, the journey is more important than thing, which I've been thinking about a lot, obviously. That's sort of my fucking, I mean, what you're talking about is what I've been struggling with and trying to figure out. But you know, day-to-day enjoyment in what you do is fucking crucial. It is funny when people will say that about, they're like, it's about the journey, not the destination. And they'll use the odyssey as an example. But I've been reading the odyssey, just the Nolan movies got me pumped. So I've been reading, I read a couple different versions of it. And it's funny when they use that example, because the odyssey is maybe the only one where that's not true. The whole point of the odyssey is the destination. He wasn't having, he didn't learn on the journey. He was being a fucking asshole and cheating on his fucking wife and killing, you know, and fucking with Cyclopses. But that's a little, that's my classics take. We've gotten to philosophy and classical literature. But- I will say this though. The Randy's Donuts is very good. Yeah, let's get back to the, I did. So Randy's Donuts in LA, I have had it. Remember dude, remember after the LA special, Eldis? That was one of the best days of our lives, dude. We have to do something after the Baltimore special, which is in four days, as we all know, it is four 20 after all. But we had a great day where we got a bunch, it might've been Randy's Donuts, and we got a fucking, me, Eldis and our pal, Straight George, and me and Eldis did a bunch of fucking mushrooms. Was it mushrooms or acid? We did shrooms. We did shrooms, and George drove us around in a fucking car while we're eating donuts and going to different LA places. That's one of the best days. Yeah, yeah, I definitely think that the- Are you a donuts guy overall? I am, man. I'm rocking one of those. They're so good. I stepped away from donuts for years, and then, man, the donut and coffee move, it's good. It's a classic for a reason, man. And I'm gonna say this, bro. It's a classic for a reason. It's such a simple idea for something to taste good. We're gonna take some bread, and we're gonna dip it in sugar. We're gonna fry it first. We're not baking this bullshit. We're gonna fry it. Dip it in sugar. It's like, amen. This is a sin, man. That's awesome. This is delicious and it's negative. Yeah, you're right. It's certainly sinful. You're like, dang, bro, this is all the things that could be bad. You did turn something pure in a way to feed yourself into a symbol of excess. Yeah, there's no nutritional value. No, no, certainly not. No, certainly not. Yeah, in your hierarchy of desserts, where do donuts lay? Wow. Whoa. Yeah, this is- Now we're getting to the real stuff. Enough about the emptiness of ceaseless success through capitalism. Let's get to the fact. Let's get to the point where- High social media is taking us all the way. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Let's get to the brass tacks. What is your dessert hierarchy? Okay, so I feel like, honestly, I'm a big donut guy, but- Respect. I wouldn't say cakes over donuts. Cakes over donuts. You wouldn't, you wouldn't, great. But I would say red velvet cake is my favorite dessert. Really? A good red velvet cake. Really? Eldest is shaking his head in approval here. I don't know that I agree. I don't quite approve that. Okay, okay. I'm a little surprised. I'm a little surprised whenever anyone says red velvet. Now here's where we wanna plunge into this. I get very upset about red velvet slanted. Well, can you make the case? Because I'll be honest with you, to me red velvet is a classic just mid-tier cake. Okay, I wanna leave the pie. I don't wanna do this for you. Listen, let me say this. I do think that people who say that have not had a good red velvet. That's fair, and I will say we have a very hilarious, something hilarious in our life happened where a friend of ours growing up, he's, people don't know him, he's not a, we have not made him a character in any way on the pod. Just a guy growing up in Greek town one time. He thought he was shitting blood, but he ate a whole red velvet cake. He went to the fucking ER, and they were like, this is the level of, like we have fat guys you guys don't even know about. We haven't told you, we meet in Eldest Grop Around, the type of fat guy that it's, he's, the fact, they would blow your minds if we described the level of obese that we grew up around. This guy was so fucking fat, he ate a whole red velvet cake. Shit, what he thought was blood was rushed to the emergency room. People were like, he's gonna fucking die, he's got colon cancer. And the doctors were like, they had to get like Dr. House in there. They're like, we've never seen this much blood. They got their expert, and they're like, what did you eat? And they were like, and he was like, oh, not much. And then they were like, and then eventually they got cake, and they're like, oh, what kind of cake? You're like, red velvet, they're like, oh, okay, but you must have like a slice. Usually you got, he's like, no, I ate an entire red velvet cake. And they're like, get the fuck out of here. Like, I'm certain, I wasn't there obviously, I'm certain in that moment, he had to experience fat phobia. I think the doctors must have been like, you fat cocksucker, you just fucking used all our resources for two hours, while we're trying to figure out where this blood is coming from. Cause imagine looking at the red velvet boo boo like, hmm. Yeah. What is the source? And it didn't even dawn on it. This is so fat and stupid, by the way, that it didn't even dawn on him that red velvet might be part of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wasn't like, cause I've had some atrocious shits, and I'm like, nah, that's, I deserve that. That's, I ate my way to that type of dump. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, so now here's the thing, man. Let's talk about red velvet. Let's get into this, okay? My hunch is that there is, you have an emotional connection to red velvet. You lost, man. You really don't think so. It wasn't like a thing you ate growing up. I think red velvet is the best cake. It's just chocolate with dye. It's not, why do we say that? It's not, it's never been chocolate. People always say it's chocolate. It's not chocolate. Y'all have tasted chocolate cake. It's not chocolate. It's just, it's a different. It has cocoa in it. Cocoa in it. But people, people, so. Tell me what, do a little research for Foxy. But people are so like, people so busy on, on boxing it in. Sure. People are like, oh, it got cocoa, then it's got to be chocolate. Relax. I'm with you there. People are all type of things. Cakes are all type of varieties. Well, what would you discuss? What would you describe the flavor profile of red velvet? Cause I'm having a hard time coming up with anything unique to red velvet. It has cocoa essence with cream cheese icing. It's the cream cheese that does it for you. It's killing me. So the fact that it's a more subtle chocolate varietal with the cream cheese icing. Yes. And here's the thing about red velvet. Red velvet is, you can make it bad. You can. So like great example. You could get a good chocolate cake, a good birthday cake down at the, at the fart factory. Sure. Sure. She, we have one thing America has done very well is we have perfected sheet cake, birthday sheet cake technology. You go to Costco, get you a sheet cake. That's good shit. But if you get into pound cake, German chocolate, red velvet, that's when you're going to have to have a craftsman involved. I agree with you there. And I think that what happened is people have been so overexposed to poorly made red velvet that they have allowed that to shade their appearance over the food. Sure. But we got to remain open minded. I'm open minded. If I'm, if I'm anything, it's open minded to cake. If we're anything on this podcast. Matter of fact, let me know when you next time you're going to Atlanta. I bet we're going. Yeah. We'll be there. I need to know. I'll go wherever you send me. Okay. Go to this place called Sammy Cheesecake. Sammy Cheesecake? Cheesecake place. I'm listening. But they got a red velvet. I love this. This is like a fat speakeasy. You're like, now you're going to go to a cheesecake place. But they have. But because of the cheesecake, the cheesecake icing's next level. And I'm assuming. I'm going to be honest. I didn't put that together until you just said it. I think that's probably what it is. I'm just guessing here. You got out of Sammy Cheesecake. Get it with the pecans in it. Don't get it without the pecans. Get that sliced. Get it with the pecans. Now I'm starting to think this is a cultural thing. In Atlanta. I'm starting to think black people, black people must do red velvet in a way that has not crossed over. And I'm open to that. I think that must be what it is. I'm open to that reality. Because you're talking to guys who know cakes here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm open to that. And maybe in Baltimore, I know it was never a really thin. Maybe it's a southern, southern black thing might be the best red velvet. That. I'm pretty sure that could put the icing in it. And I do like what you're saying though, where people that you will at least admit that the average is a higher degree of difficulty cake. So that because what people see most of the time is a mid the mid version of a red velvet cake is bad in my opinion. But you're saying judge it on the top level. Because it's my thing. I'm just in the base on people's best self. And I respect that. And I think that the best red velvet is leaps and bounds better than the best chocolate. Now, this is interesting. I think that I know we need to double chocolate cake. And you gave me a red. I guarantee we go blind for test. Just straight flavor palette. The red. I like what we have to do. We have to figure something out during the holidays. And we have to have a like a tournament of cakes. Yeah, we have to have. And it will be. Fuck, we might have to do all fat, fat November or fat December. And we might because we got some between the whole fat house crew. We get Mandel, we get fucking are you garbage? We get I'm with we get we get. Gay bread. We we need to get some fat lady representation as well. You know, I think we should do what's that we should do this either before or after. I think we should do a national comedian weight loss competition. You know, Reggie Conquest. I love Reggie. Me and Reggie been talking about. I love like a year. I love Reggie. A bunch of comedians and have like a big like we. So I am I am really thinking about. And we don't want to, you know, I don't want to talk at us turn a little bit. But let's just say Stavi gets ripped. The series I've been doing for a while. Yeah, we're thinking about adding some wrinkles to it. And I think getting some other comics involved. Yeah, could really help. So this is good. No, no, I I think we need to figure something out about right around the holidays. We need to have a consecutive four fat four weeks of fat guests. And I think we need to judge cakes every week. I think this I think we need to do. And we're basically just stealing something from Doe Boys. This feels like what Doe Boys would do. They just said, are you familiar with the Doe Boys podcast? I've heard of it. You'd be great. We you got to get on it. I got to talk because, you know, I'm trying to get because basically what we're talking about is this is an Avengers type thing for fat podcasters. We might have to do it across like five different podcasts. We might have to join. We might have to do the like bandana, red and blue guy holding it to talk cakes because to me and I would like each fat podcast to bring one dessert. And we you are judged solely by what you bring. And that way we take because there is a philosophical divide between the best the best like the best available thing, like the average thing versus the best of the best. There is a philosophical. Whenever you're whenever you're like fruits is a great example. When you're ranking fruits, the best blackberry is incredible. But most blackberries suck dick. You almost never get them ripe. Yeah. Mango. The best mango may be the best thing in the fall time. But when you get a hard, weird mango, that's fucking sucks. Whereas a banana is never above a B, but pretty much every banana that's yellow tastes the same. Yeah. So there's a there's a apples to an apple. If an apple is your favorite fruit, you're a fucking asshole. But a random apple is probably good. Yeah. Probably solid. But I'm never those are never what you gravitate towards. So this is good on 420. You know, we're all high as fuck. We got the munchies. That's why we're talking cakes on 420. We hatched the idea for the fat, fat comedians. Well, you got to come up with a better name, but the tournament of cakes. It need a acronym. We do need a tournament of cakes is T.O.C. Not that and not great. We got to work on the act. Yeah. K we need an old school like mid 2000s rap acronym. You know how they really were forcing them for years. It's my favorite. K. Huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe the game. My favorite is chic. Remember chic elders? The dip set was really reaching for chic. What was it swag? Oh, I can't remember. Do you remember what chic was? Look at the jewel Santana chic. But I will say this. We do need to get this done before I get my leg surgery. Because that's true. Because when I get that, I am turning my back on you. Of course, of course. I am turning my back on you. This will be the final. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm turning to Brian. Yeah. I get it. Let's say I'm like, yeah, put them burgers down. Stop killing yourself. Y'all can press. Dude, I can't wait. I can't wait to fucking to go through the fucking Marvel. I'm going to just find who the Marvel doctor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not cat. I'm never going to be in a Marvel movie, but I'm just going to get the transformation. Yeah. Because I listen, I'm mocking you about your leg surgery. Yeah. But I have I'm dreaming the same dreams. It's just minor, much more steroid steroid based. Where it's like, look, I'm not I have I hurt my back. And I'll probably be dealing with this all year. And the idea of recovery for a surgery that's like worse than this. I'm never doing it. But the idea of doing some fucking steroids or peptide. Rich people's going to be doing peptides now. I'm doing all. I'm figuring all the rich guy stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm figuring it all out. But you know something? No, this doesn't make us hypocrites because we did just talk about being enough. Right. And now we're trying to get well. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. There is nothing. That's another. That's the flip side, because sometimes the fat, the fat activist stuff goes way too far. Totally. It's one thing to accept yourself or who you are, which is important. I pretend. But let's this. I think we've done this before where it's like, all right, everybody, everybody who's not fat, stop listening for a minute. OK, just us fat guys now and gals. We should lose a couple pounds, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all need to be honest with ourselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. We should all we've done this before it might have been on an episode you were on. We'd have to pretend. But but it's important to accept who you are, where you are. But also it's fine to want to change and improve yourself. That's the thing that pisses me off is like, why is it have to be you're smashing your fucking face with hammers to get your bone structure right? Or you're the fattest guy of all time. We can't go upstairs and now and now every everyone has to. And listen, if you're legitimately disabled and that's you and that's fine, people should have to fucking make your life not a living hell. But if you're just a guy like us, who's who's who's had a couple to hit Sammy's cheesecake a little too often, we got to be honest with ourselves here, man. Yeah. And we don't want to get we don't want to get obsessed with black and white thinking, man, you can have some new ones. There's some new ones. There's some grace on white while not also trying to, you know, never die. Of course, of course, of course, of course. I think it's a little middle. But I'm pretty sure everybody involved knows these things too. That's what I'm saying. It's about the attention is I think all of it is people have found value and attention from the Internet. So you got to be as extreme as possible. That's fair. Now, let's before we get to the questions, let's finish up. So red velvet is number one to you. I was about to ask, what's your favorite cake? OK, I was maybe this similar because I because I'm going to say I like a bread pudding as my number one. Interesting. But very and now I'm understanding where you're where you're coming from because, yes, a random bread pudding is bad. Even though I like it, you give me some bullshit with raisins. It's not set the right way. Yeah. But the fucking best bread pudding to me is just my favorite because because of the breadtiness to it and you got to have it's got to have chocolate. And it's got to be paired with a fucking ice cream. OK, it's got to go. I'll amode, right? Yeah, don't even fucking look at me if you're having your favorite dessert, it's not all I'm in my mode. If I'm all about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're not putting a fucking scoop of the finest vanilla and it should be vanilla so that it can make whatever sing. Yeah, right. Yeah. The ice cream should should be a it's a role player. It's setting picks. It's rebounding so that your main dessert can dunk. Right. Wow. That's how I see the ala mode. I it works for apple pie. It works for fucking cakes. I didn't put pies in the mix. Pies are pretty good. Pies are pretty good. To me, pie is probably but what pie? I'm a big I'm basically I like apples. Apple's good. Yeah. Apple. Apple. Another apple ala mode. Apple pie. I love all is incredible. Yeah, especially the when the when the fucking shits a little crunchy. Come on, man. And you feel like you're eating fruit. Go crust heavy. Crust heavy. And you get me a springy apple, not a mushy ass apple. Listen, I'll take it either way, by the way. But I like a yeah. If you want to get into the science of it, I hate to say it, bro. Grab the two apple pies and McDonald's put them in the meat flurry with no topping. Oh, that's a whole other fuck. The tournament, the dessert tournament. Yeah, I did the science. The dessert tournament is we there's two levels to it. There's the absolute best bakery. And then there's gas. What can you do to gas station? What can you do at a fast food restaurant? Totally. What can you do at a fuck? Just, you know, and then like grab bag, like, you know, we drop you within a fucking that's that's fun, too. It's like there's different. What can you do with a vending machine? What can you get down? You know what I mean? Like there's prison rules almost when you see those videos of guys making fucking chimichangas with Doritos and fucking dog food somehow. You're like, how do they do that? Put this guy in fucking the culinary. My favorite video was somebody doing the incarcerated birthday cake. Hell yeah. And they like smashed some Twinkies and made some legs. And I was like, man, it's crazy, man. People are really resourceful. Absolutely. The human spirit and creativity. In fact, that to me is so that is more artful to me than almost every type of online content. I would rather watch. I would see the path the pathos and the fucking the heart that goes into these guys in jail. They just want their friend to have a nice birthday. They're doing their best. Absolutely. You know what I mean? They don't want to be here just dudes eating fucking smashed up Twinkies. But for an hour, it's like you're fucking at home with your with your family. And that's beautiful. And that is more that the the artistic value of the of jail food is so much more powerful than a lot of people who make their living making art, to be honest with you. Yeah. Yeah. This is great. This has been a very philosophy heavy first part, which I love. Sometimes people got to see how we think on this fucking beautiful program. But it's time to help the people, Elda. So why don't you fucking play us a couple, a couple fucking calls? Thank you all so much for being here at our wedding. I can't believe I get to spend the rest of my life with the woman of my dreams. Speaking of dreams, have you ever dreamed of tasting all the colours of the rainbow because that is exactly what you get with Skittles five bold fruit flavours in every pack? Lemon, orange, lime, strawberry and black currant. They're chewy, they're colorful, they're perfect, just like my wife. So thank you for coming and remember to buy Skittles. Shamelessly promote the rainbow, taste the rainbow. 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And she wants to help her friend. So she's torn. She doesn't want to. She wants to know how to go about reporting her friend to the principles or whatever. So that she gets caught or gets in trouble or something. And I didn't raise no snitch. And I'm a little bothered by the fact that she's doing some cop like behavior. Yeah. So, you know, I think you should just bully her friend and tease her relentlessly for vaping. And maybe that'll work. But she wants to be a fucking tattletale. And I don't love that. So that's a big question. What do you do if your kid is trying to be a snitch? Thanks very much. This is tough. Bye. Because without question, I would rather have the kid vaping than the kid trying to figure out how to report her friend. What? You're a dude. You raised a fucking door. And that's OK. You because we can. You can deduct someone. And they start from that. I think that's. That's fine. But man, this is a big moment. This is a big parenting. I definitely think. I think you. It's got to take the. Approach of preaching. The loyalty between the friendship. Yeah. You know, I'm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Value. Yes. Then whatever. The rule that she's trying to enforce. You know what I'm saying. Sure. And he's in an interesting spot here because do you risk his kid clearly? And the funny thing is about 15 year olds is like, they're really like 10 year olds. Like mentally, they're just like little ass kids. It's actually kind of cute when you see someone like, like even all the way through, even like first year of college, you have people who like are growing and you see them like, you'll have like, I have like a little cousin who's like, he's kind of like a dude, right? Like they're in fucking, they're in high school, like him and his little sisters. And, you know, they fuck, he looks like a fuck, like at first glance, if you're not paying attention, like, oh yeah, that's like a grown, you know, grown, a grown person, whatever a young adult. And then you fucking talk to them and it's like, they're fucking little ass, they're dumb babies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a fun, like God bless whoever teaches like middle school and fucking and high school. That's such a weird, crazy thing to do. So this, so you risk, I think what's happening is your daughter is kind of running on middle to elementary school programming right now. She's a little sheltered. This kind of happened to me. I remember when I had a friend who was trying to get pussy when we were 15 and I was like, oh, what? Girls will let us do that. And I was like, that'd be all. And you know, he throws like a party and I'm a fucking loser. Cause I'm, it's like you, it's like you're a little kid who doesn't understand it's even possible for you to fuck. Because we just lived like, chill. Like, I mean, you could argue to this day, I live like a little boy. Like I just have a big ass TV, me and my friend talk shit. That's our job. You know what I mean? So it's like, he could by being like, you know, it's not really a big deal if your friend vapes. He could destroy, he could turn his kid into being like, does anything matter? And now she's getting fucked up. And now she's going hard the other way. So it is a delicate spot to be in. Absolutely. Cause I think you, cause you definitely don't want to invalidate the seriousness of the infraction to her. But I do think that- Yeah, cause it's kind of cute that her, his daughter is 15 and thinks it's crazy, it's crazy that her friend is vaping. It's like you're 15, you fucking dork. That is the age you're trying to do drugs. You're trying to drink. You're trying to do all this shit. But I think as you get older, you do realize how much value it is in community and your relationships beyond the things that are set upon as like what we're supposed to do, what we're not supposed to do. And so I think- And all that stuff's fake by the way. Like the idea that we are actually living a society of rules is completely fake. There's no justice. Like I think this is a good moment for her to realize what you're saying where what matters is the actual bonds you make with people. The real, the like loyalty, the knowing that you can have their back. Cause she, his daughter is now operating in a world where, well, somebody's doing something wrong. You go to authority who is infallible, who knows everything and will fix the situation. And this is a good moment to teach your daughter that like her principle is probably a fucking idiot. You know what I mean? Authority is more often than not fucking stupid, right? Like they don't fuck. And what's important here, or not fucking stupid, but not necessarily knows how to deal with things. And what's important here is to let her know like, no, look, your friend might be vaping. She might be going through something. It might be a phase. It might not be. She might, she might smoke her whole life. She might not. But this is your friend who you need to be there for. And you also need to be like, just talk to her about it. Bullying, making fun of her for smoking is one thing. Like whatever. But it's just like, you just have to let them know that what's way more important is to be there for your friend because look, right now it's vaping, which is kind of under control. But there might be a time where they get in over their head and it's like, now's not the time to go to authority, I guess, is maybe what I would say. Is that this is a really low level infraction. And you also need to tell your daughter she has to deal with things herself. This is a great opportunity to find this out because the stakes are low. Yeah, and I think it's nothing wrong with actually learning how to communicate concern to a friend. Sure, sure, that's fair. And having value in that. It doesn't need to be beyond the two people. It's like, hey, this person is important to me and I think that this is damaging to you. And communicating that rather than trying to export the responsibility outside of themselves. Yeah, that's fair. Now you go back and you think about being 15. Oh, totally. And you're like, you just want to stop. You just want to stop, but it's also like, how do you not see that go? Like I'm trying to think about being 15 and like telling a teacher on fucking Eldis. I mean, to me, that's, the bigger problem is that this is even in your kids thinking. I mean, like this is kind of insane where it's like, maybe it's just so scared of it. Like it'd be like if Eldis was doing heroin to me. Where I'm like, I need to have an intervention. But she's just fucking vaping. So it's like, and it's also cute that she told her parents. But I think this is a trusting individual. But I think this is definitely a sign of some level of solid moral compass. Yeah, for sure. That may just be, that's a good point. Misguided and execution. That's a really good point because she's not wrong, but her knee jerk reaction is wrong. Is to snitch and to go to authority. And I think there's a twofold lesson here, which is like, it's better to just handle things within your group, within your community on some level than to go outside unless it's a really big problem. And then you're like, hey, you should probably save. You might never need to go to like authority or whatever, but it's like, this should be when your friend is in like serious danger. And right now, just being a kid, and you can even say like, hey, I don't want you to vape, but you need to kind of going forward, you need to know the difference between something where we have to call in somebody, and it is where you just have to talk to your friend. And there is value in saying that. And by the way, being the kind of 15 year old, it can be like, I don't think this is good for you, man. That's good, that's important, but I also think on some level, it's like, her friends are gonna start drinking soon if they haven't already. They're gonna start smoking weed, they're gonna start having sex like, and you could, I think really the message is, look, you be whoever you wanna be. You do safe stuff, do you, like this stuff is crazy, and that's important, and I'm proud of you for feeling that way, but you also have to understand, you can't change the way your friends behave. All you can do is be there for them, and if they're in really serious danger, then we can talk about it, but this is not one of those situations. And then to say to her, as the parent, and if you're ever in serious, if you're ever struggling with anything, you can talk to me. The really biggest positive here is that she clearly feels comfortable like telling you about this, and I think that's the main thing you wanna, that's a hard thing to do. You should be proud that your kid actually wants to talk, because I would never, in a million years, think I could go to my parents with my friends doing drugs. First of all, I would be like, nice, let's do drugs. I was actively hiding drug use at this age for my parents, and so it's cute, but that's what I would say to her. It's like, you gotta handle some shit on your own, and all you can do is be there for your friends, and if they're in serious trouble, talk to me, we can handle it, we can figure it out, and if you're ever in serious trouble, and any, you can always come to me, but you need to start learning that we can't really trust who's in charge. You know your friend better than your fucking principal does. You know what I mean? And you made the best point that it is cool that he has that relationship where she will come to him with anything. You know what I'm saying? I think that's something that everybody doesn't have. Totally. Damn, that's so funny. What was the crew looking like at 15? What were you up to? 15. Vapes weren't out back then. I wasn't vaping. I was kind of a little bit on that. I was like, I didn't do nothing, I ain't do no... No activities. I ain't smoke, nothing. Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't do anything. I was one of them like... You were like, how, guys, you got it, yeah. You're telling people they need to go to church to save their souls? I was definitely like, dang, y'all not studying? I had some of that in me, you know, for sure. The sour grapes for not being at the parties. Look at what y'all doing. I was wondering, I definitely... But you know, when you start, when you try to be judgment man at the age, you really just try to protect your own. That's fully what it is. Yeah, you try to create some image of yourself to protect your own security. Oh, I could be getting pussy and smoking weed. I don't want to, because it's bad for me. And you guys should be doing that. You should be hitting the books. Not having an awesome weekend. Not fucking trying pills. It's a bunch of that. I definitely try to be like, that's what y'all doing? I mean, that's a classic move of like, that's another place where the like, fat and the... Like that's why fatness has so much like cross community like we relate to a lot of different people because I think that's the kind of behavior you also get from like closeted people who are like, oh, God, this is guys, we need to be focused and we need to... And of course I'd love to fuck Cindy. She's so hot, but I can't have premarital sex and neither should you. It's like, there's a little bit of the like, hiding, being either a loser or hiding the identity you're uncomfortable with through the rules. And that's a big problem. Your kid just sounds like a little bit of a goody-touches and that's fine. That's kind of cute and good for you. Congratulations. Next question, Eldis. Hey, first time, long time, I'll jump right into it. I've been dating a girl for about five months and the problem I'm having is she busts hardest when she's righted it. Now that's not necessarily a problem, but the problem is she rides aggressively. Compound to that, she wants me to grab her hip and slamming her down on me when she's fucking me as hard as possible. Adding to that, she does this little hip flick at the end and I swear to God, it hurts like nothing I've ever experienced. It feels like she's about to snap my dick off. I'm trying different things like adjusting angle. I try moving my hips up, I putting my legs up to try and fix that. Doing a bridge. No, no, get those down. I'm coming in for the thunder. Yeah. So where I'm at is she's a self-conscious person. I don't want to ruin her favorite position. How do I bring this up to her without hurting her feelings and keeping my member intact? Additionally, I come the hardest when I fuck her in the ass. It's just a fair-criss situation. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't try and sneak that in there. He's got a fucking treatise on every angle that this guy. It's like, and by the way, I like the fucker in the ass. I come the hardest when I, that's crazy. And for you to try, for you to try and make an equivalence of a woman riding you and you fucking her ass. That's just, buddy, that's apples and oranges. I hate to break it too. I do like that he's linking it with a pain. He's like, she's hurting my dick. Yeah, I'll hurt her ass a little. That's how we get off. Where's the middle ground? No, brother, this is not a fair trade. Okay, let's start there. Go, Mandel, you have some thoughts? Well, my thoughts is probably around the thing. Sure, sure, sure. No, no, please, go ahead. Have you ever had someone where you had a follow-up where you answer the thing and then you hear their response from their part, the other person talking about hearing it on the pocket. Maybe a couple times people have called in together, but we've never had, that's true. We've never had like a different, maybe there's been one thing I'm not thinking of where somebody called in to sort of defend themselves, but more so we get them responding. We don't really get, like, we'll never, we've never gotten, for example, the girlfriends perspective here. No, which I would be fascinating, my dream is to actually be able to, one of the first versions of this show was almost like a judge show where everybody comes and gives me their take, and I would love to do some version of that. I don't wanna swaggerjack Miss Pat right now, she's got Miss Pat settles it. And I would be doing, I would kinda be stealing her whole thing, if I'm being honest. So I'm gonna let that, she does it until she wants. Maybe it's like Family Feud, where it's like I can take over Miss Pat settles it. It could be Stavie settles it. I could be the next host of BET's, Stavie settles it. And everything's the same, it's just me, that would be fucking awesome. Man, you should come up with a Greek TV channel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. G-E-T. I wouldn't wanna fucking deal with all those, that's too many Greeks for me, man. There's only a couple good ones. Now, this guy, which I would love to get this girl's take, now, let's, I guess, should we discuss the fact that he comes the hardest when he fucks her? I mean, that's kinda nuts. That's kind of crazy. Also, what do you mean the hardest? We're not, listen, that's the thing about dudes, let's be very clear. Sure, there's things you like more than others, but it's like, a guy busts the same, whether he's fucking, you know, unless you're staying and you're doing tantric sex for 10 hours or whatever, but it's like, women come harder, men come the same. Let's be fucking honest. You just like fucking, you just like butt fucking, and that's fine. No, there's no judgment here. I just don't appreciate you trying to pretend that these two things are the same. And I've been there, I know when I ultimately think, you kinda have to take one for the team here. If this is how she busts, and we're probably talking about in a total, and look, is it, how painful is it? I don't know, I've had to be like, you know, I have a fucked up penis famously, I've discussed that. I've had to be like, hey, chill, getting a spam phone call. I've had to pause and be like, whoa, I need a little breather for my fucked up dick, but I've got it right back in the zone. And ultimately, I think the fact that you have a key to your girl busting is more than most, many would kill to be in your position. The fact that you know your girl can bust in a certain way. I think you just need to tell her, hey, sometimes it fucking, but you have what you need. You just have to discuss. Don't be afraid to just share something. And if she's self-conscious, that's one thing, you're like, hey, this is awesome, can we just figure a couple of things out here? Cause I'm sure you can find a middle way if you're just a little vocal, if it's not all or nothing. I bet there's some pelvic bracing that could go on for this guy. That's not the full on bridge where she's still in the same position, but he's like, you know, maybe you need a pillow under your hips for a change. You know what I mean? Some like maybe we need a specific ergonomic fuck pillow. Maybe your dick's not hard enough, pal. I hate that. Let's be honest. Let's call, let's, let's really fucking, you know, let's throw our cards out on the table. What the fuck is the expression? Whatever. It's a positive cause listen, I know that if my dick's not very hard, it really shows itself when I'm being ridden, for example. There's no way to, you can kind of finesse a wiggly penis when you're on top. But when somebody else is making use of your penis as a tool, maybe your dick's not hard enough. And can we do something there? Can we increase blood flow? Can we get our vascularity better? And then look, if the fact that you like anal sex is just a different conversation. So let's not put these two together. When you talk to her about this, don't propose a trade where it's like, hey, you get to bust and I get to fuck your ass whenever I want, not an equivalence. Cause I'm guessing you're busting from traditional, you know, intercourse. But that's, I think that's my take on it. You just have to have a convo. You have to think about all the elements here. And if this is the way she busts, you gotta figure something out here. Cause that's a nice thing to have in a long-term relationship. Maybe you can do a little finger, aggressive finger popping. I'm sure they're related. You know. I'm sure you can achieve certain same goals that way. Just thinking of my own experiences. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, that's, I think that's what I would counsel the man on. Man, you have no direct takes here. Yeah, I really don't, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was listening to bro. And he was having so much fun. He was pretty technical about it too. Yeah, like he was having so much fun. And I did think, like you said, he did go super detailed. And then at the last minute, he said his thing and it hung up. Yeah, that was, that was a little notch. That caught me a little off guard. That wasn't slick. We caught you. I do appreciate it. Cause I do think we're in similar spate. Like I think we're both, me and you were both sort of fascinated by like a, a type of retro fat guy, like ankh type of, but I appreciate about you is that you have a wholesome this too. Cause that, cause there's very typically that kind of older, Ankh scumbag uncle, you know, like not quite a dad. Kind of like literally your uncle that's around. Oftentimes there's a horny energy attached to it. And I like that you keep it pure. For you, it's about the aesthetics. There's not, there's hints of horniness, but there's no, there's no outward displays of, of horniness. Honestly, bro, I think, I think I'm one of them people who, because most of my stand of career is, is gigs. I think I'm still stuck in the like, keep it clean. Keep it clean. If you want to work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want to work. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We all got an audience, bro. It's a lot of like, I can work gigs. Sure. And that's true. But I definitely ran up against that a lot early in my career. Totally, totally, totally. Shout out to Tom Papa who did not, it's not a clean comic, but people thought of him that way. And he let me, I opened for him for years. And the one time a lady was like, your opener was disgusting. And he was like, fuck you lady. He fully had my back. It was awesome. He's the man for that. But it really, it just really just more about that though. I see, I see. I just be trying to like. Oh, I love, oh, okay. Can I be so scared like, I be so scared like, if I have to go back to colleges and churches, I don't want to look up the files like, nevermind. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. I respect that. Okay, nice. So there might be a horny unveiling with Mandel in about a decade. I don't think I've heard them two words. Because that really is sort of the final onc form is just being sort of, and there's a passive horniness to it where it's not aggressive. You're just always a little horny and you're always just looking at, it's like when you see an old fat guy, just like, it looks like he's really usually watching the most intense pornography you've ever seen in your life. I do feel like there is, Patrice had an old bit about being like an old creep or like an undercover creep, where it's just, I'm trying to, he's just like in a park bench, looking like a woman's like ankles or something. You know what I mean? He's just like, I gotta find that bit. That is kind of what we're describing. Anyway, next question, LD. On booking.com, it's easy to book your holiday home. And thanks to no hidden fees, there's no more. Guys, found a villa, I'm confirming. Where were we? Added fees. We don't do sneaky added fees. So you can go from home to holiday home with no dramas. Let's go, let's go, you know I need And relax. On booking.com, finding a holiday home's easy. Booking.com, booking.com, yeah. Hey, stop it. What's up guys, gals, non binary cows, whatever. Jumping right in. So I got a friend. Thank you for inclusivity. We're planning this like, you know, cross country, Scotland trips, road trip, right? We've always been platonic friends. We used to work together. We've done some travels like this. I'm not expecting to fuck. You know, maybe you never know. Less than 5% chance. But even like with those chances being pretty low, she's an outdoorsy person. I imagine we're gonna be doing a lot of hikes. A lot. I like doing that stuff too. But I am probably working. This is another classic trying to sneak something in. Anyway, at 5%, I'm not thinking about it. It's all you're thinking about. Hey, come on, man. Come on, dude. Who the fuck are you calling into? You're going on a trip with a girl. You're like, oh, I'm probably not gonna fuck. I'm not even thinking about it. Every moment you're around her, you're vibrating with how badly you wanna fuck her. And you think you can hide that? You're going on a trip with a platonic trip? Anyway, sorry. He brought it up twice. Yeah. This far, so that is dishonest. So can we, sorry, hit me with, I just got a weird text, so I missed the very beginning. So this friend is in England and they're planning a cross country trip to Scotland. That sounds like it'll be pretty outdoorsy. That's cute though. I like that trip idea. And so he lives where? He lives here or he lives there? He didn't specify, but I think he lives here. Okay, anyway, keep going. But I am probably in the worst shape of my fucking life. I'm damn near 300 pounds. And I've got like three or four months to prepare. 557, that's a normal weight for that height. A lot of time, but you could still... Sounds like you're just right. From what my doctors told me. 57300, that's exactly right on the BMI scale. A lot of time, but you could still make some significant progress. I just can't find any motivation stops. I just can't stop eating and smoking weed and oversleeping. And I don't know, I'm just really depressed. The world seems shitty, war and blah, blah, blah. And I've been thinking about quitting the weed, but like, it's like, I'm pretty sure me buying weed is one of my friends' only sources of income. And I guess it's an excuse, but that stops me from just trying to cut that out. But what do I do? How do I get ripped like you? How do I find the motivation to become a better man, to hike and maybe smash this drill? I mean, okay, there it is. Love you guys, love the pause, love the time, love the time. I just want to speak to you and shit. Nah, I'm with you. You just talked it early. Because you know what this guy is? This guy is living in an oil field and he's trying to perfect solar power, right? He needs the motivation. You just snap. He needs the motivation to lose weight. And he's pretending he doesn't want to fuck this girl. My boy, you got, that's the, what are we talking about? Art, human existence, everything in history has been done to get pussy. You clearly want to fuck this girl so bad. You're fat as shit. You're going to be alone with her for a fucking month on a cross-country trip. And that's not the fucking, you're pretending you don't want to fuck her. And that's you locking away your oil well. Admit yourself. All you want to do is fuck this woman. You would still get something out of the trip. Don't get me wrong. Even if she doesn't want to, you're not a piece of shit. If she doesn't want to fuck you, you're not going to be an asshole. But admit that to yourself. Start drilling in the fucking getting pussy oil fields. Instead of this nebulous like be a better man. I couldn't possibly stop smoking weed. It would completely disrupt my local economy if I stopped buying eighth from my fucking college dropout friend. Be honest with yourself. Okay. Start drilling in the pussy energy well. Okay. And stop pretending you're doing this for moral higher standards. And one day you'll get there by the way, right? Like I'm at a place where look, my life fucking awesome. I don't need to lose weight other than because I want to live, right? But that wasn't always the case. When I was young and had not, the only times I ever fucking lost weight was honestly for a girl or for girls generally, right? I do have a little take here though. Please. That's why you're here. And I do think that I do think- And we are too different. We do have a different, it's like we have a different operating system in the same model. Like we both have, we're both like, you know, it's different engines and like, you know, PT cruisers or whatever. Totally, totally, totally, totally. So I am interested that you're for your take, sure. Cause I don't think you have been, you know, you're not as like we said, horny forward. So give, let's get your take. No, I will say this. I do think that at some point, you have to put some value in wanting to lose weight or be healthier for yourself. For sure. Cause I think that's more sustainable over time than for this particular person. We're in full agreement. And I think that, I think that the more that you have some more, some more value and feel like I am worth whatever that is, whether that be being, I don't know he said, you know, doing whatever he wants to quit or lose weight or Gannis, good, whatever. I think you'll be in less positions where you have to pretend like you don't want to be with this lady. You'll just have, you'll have more opportunity to be around women who like you for you because you like you for you. You give what I'm saying? No, that's even, you're right. Even pretending he doesn't want to fuck her is sort of that. It's his own protection. It's his own protection. Why are you guys out smoking weed? That's bad for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the evolved version of that, right? And I think you got to put that value in yourself. You got to be like, hey man, I like me so much that I want the best version of me because I deserve it. And then I think you'll have less times where you're like trying to figure out these puzzles around. Of course. Of course. You know, anything you want in life because you find the value in you first. You know what I'm saying? I fully agree. And I do, and that's kind of what I'm saying is like, look, this will not last. This is not, it is oil versus solar because it is bad for you. It's bad for the environment. It doesn't burn clean. The fuel of either hatred or desire. Most powerful potent fuel, but it's paid pollutes. Absolutely. It does not. When you're like, and that's by the way, that's what got me here is like chip on my shoulder. You think that motherfucker's better than me? And wanting to get pussy. Without question, the two things that have motivated my success more than anything, at least getting started are those two. But those fuels do not burn clean. And I have switched, since switched over, to a different fuel for myself but this guy right now, he's just fuck. He's out there. So you gotta start where you are. He's gotta start where he is. I get that. And right now he needs to start burning the unclean fuel just to get a little heat in the fucking, in the lab. This is, right now the lab is dark. This is a fair point. Because I would say, the thing that you do that I think is so cool is that you inspire people to like themselves where they are. Exactly. But like you said, you gotta pull yourself out the thing. Whatever can motivate you first. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? If everybody, you know, you're fucking squirtles right now, you can be fucking blastoish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just not there yet, dude. You gotta evolve over time. Just admit who you are. And that's why this man needs to admit who he is. And look at this trip as, yes, use that fuel. Don't be a creep. But also just be like, you know what? I'm going on this awesome trip. I'm a fucking broke piece of shit, it sounds like. I get to go to England. It's a once in a lifetime thing. That's a very cool trip, by the way. And what did he say when he was going? Three or four months from now. Okay, so that's the perfect time to go. I've actually, I was in England. We shot Pagonia in like June or whatever the fuck. And I was like, damn, this would be the, you actually want to be in England and Scotland like July and August where everybody else is hot as fuck. And they're just like 72 degrees. And they're like, it's a heat wave, you know? But that's a beautiful trip. Look at it as like, fuck it. I'm going to get, I'm going to start going on. I'm going to start walking. Do the stuff you can do. And by the way, you're not, you don't have the time for a full evolution. This is, you're going to stay Squirtle. But you could be, where were the, or were they, who were the Squirtle club with the guys with the glasses? You remember that they were like a couple cool Squirtles. Do you remember that? No. Were you a Pokemon guy, Mandel? I was in Pokemon. I believe on the cartoon, there was like the Squirtle club or some shit. And it was just Squirtles wearing sunglasses. Squirtle squad. Squirtle squad, thank you. This is, I backed into this analogy, but it actually works beautifully. Cause right now you're a fucking loser, Squirtle, smoking weed, you're a little too fucking fat, right? The Squirtle squad's got sunglasses on. They're, they're, they're slight. So you need to become the Squirtle squad. You need to be who you are now, but just more confident. And by the way, look at it purely as, I don't want to embarrass myself on these heights. Yeah. And I'm about to say too, yeah. I think like just, just, just getting in a better cardiovascular place than you are right now is good. And take account for what's cool about you right now. Yeah. Like I think it's so much focused on what you post to change, but I'm pretty sure it's a lot of stuff. Highlight the cool stuff. Right now. Yes, I agree. That is cool about you. Get a couple cool fits, go to DXL. Absolutely. You're still at DXL. We're not telling you're leaving DXL in three months. Oh, totally. But spend a little cash. Yeah. And then you have a couple cool fits. Start going on walks in them. And by the way, it's hard to get weed in Europe. So this is a good motivation to be like, I don't want to be going through fucking withdrawals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to quit now. And if I want to start smoking weed again when I get back, I can, but just look, dude, that you actually have a really good opportunity to use this as motivation for a number of different things. Hey, again, I think you're, it's a healthy thing to be like, this is still my friend, even if she doesn't want to smash, you clearly have feelings for this person. Okay. So being honest with yourself is important. And providing, and look, whether she likes you, she doesn't like you. You want to put your best foot forward, right? So that's motivation one. Two is this is, he's young, right? Did he say how old he was? He sounds young, right? His worldview is quite young. Something you realize even in your 30s is like, oh, there are not unlimited summers. You get like 80 summers, if you're lucky, you're spending one, this might be the coolest summer of your fucking life. It's eligible. And I'm not saying the rest of you, I'm just gonna say, I'm saying, you're doing something so cool that it's eligible to be the coolest thing you've ever done. So why not be in a little better shape for it? Why not be ready to enjoy the trip? As somebody who really has had a good time going to different cities, walking around, when I was 300 pounds versus even being 280 now, that 20 fucking pounds is a huge difference. The first five pounds is a huge difference. The first time you really start walking, you feel it. So I would say, look at this, my advice to you to find concrete, to find concrete motivation is just fucking, look at this as not I'm gonna lose weight, not I'm gonna be the fucking best version of myself. You know, this ain't gonna be the best version of you ever. I wanna do, I wanna be as good as shape mentally, physically, going into a cool vacation with someone that I am going to have, that I have feelings for, that I'm going to have a lot of time to connect and see whether there's anything there. Just being the best, look at it as just short-term motivation for getting the most out of this vacation. Let that be the start and wherever it goes, it goes. Absolutely. And this might be a take that I regret. Please. Tell her how you feel, man. I agree, I agree. Tell her how you feel. No, no, no, no, no, no. How long is the trip, Elders? Did he say? I don't know if he specified it. But yes, maybe at the end of the trip. You know what I mean? I don't know that I would lead with that. I would catch a vibe. Yeah, cause not she feels stuck there. Exactly, now she feels weird. Now she's like, oh, is this a guy, a fucking creep, is he gonna try and fuck me, you know, in Dublin or wherever the fuck we're going? I guess he said Scotland and England. That's Glasgow. I might have been wrong on that. No, no, no, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Ultimately, you do need to tell her how you feel. And you need to be honest with how you feel. Yeah. By the way, nobody fucking goes on a two week hiking trip with their pen pal that they're not trying to fuck. You know what I mean? And I think, you know, you gotta realize that's a little dishonest too, cause she may proceed with like she's the best latonic. And he does. Which listen, it's, but I think, but it's important to, first thing he's do is be honest with himself. Figure out what your real feelings are. And then after you've kind of, you know, taken a couple of practice hikes, he says he's out of breath. You've hit a couple of national parks. You've gotten, you've cut the weed back, if not cut it out completely. Your diet is a little better, cause you know, whatever. After that, and then you go on the trip, you have a couple of days, you catch a vibe, you feel it out. At the end of the trip, there's nothing wrong with being like, or when it feels right, being like, hey, I'm having a great time, you know, spending as much time together has made me feel, has really made me understand my feelings for you. I really, and look, at the end of the day, they fucking live across, you know, I don't know where, he didn't give us a lot of detail about who this person is, but. He did mention they used to work together, but that's all we really know. Either way, this is clearly somebody you have feelings for on some level. And I think don't do it on the first day, don't fucking go there with a diamond ring in your pocket and try and fucking propose. But feel the vibes out, if it feels right, you can say it earlier, but I think by the end of the trip, you should, it's important for you to just express yourself, and even if it doesn't go your way, that's fine. She's still your friend, you had a great trip together, and there will be other people that do feel this way about you, right? But I like that advice, I think that is good, ultimately. At the end of the day, what we need to do is just be as honest about what we want and our feelings as possible, and that's hard to do. Yeah, and have some faith that if you being the best version of you, somebody gonna love that version. 100%, without question. Somebody will love the shittier version of you too. Absolutely, absolutely. I truly, I fucked the most when I was 340. My dick didn't even fucking work. But I was just kind of trying to fuck as like the way I did everything, like the way I was addicted to everything, of like pills, food, weed, trying to fuck as many girls as we'll let. Like I was just in such a like addict's mind where it was like, and you will, you can figure it out at the, yeah, you're worse. So when you're actually at your, wherever you are, you can find somebody that believes in you, and you can even find people that are on the upsk, you don't need everything to be perfect for you to find. Yeah, I agree. You know, but anyway, that's our advice little buddy, we're rooting for you. Honestly, please, please let us know how it goes. I would love to even talk to you on a live call because I think there's a lot more that we haven't gotten to here. Absolutely. This could be, this could, this guy could go in the, in the, in our, he could be another member of the anti-incell hall of fame. Who did we have? Peach Farmers in there. Peach Farmers in there. And who's the other kid? I forget his name, but he's the man. Remember we talked to him on the road? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. To focus his name. We don't know the real names here. I forgot their name. But we know you, but you know who we're talking about. And we need, we do need a couple of updates on some of our, the guy who you did trap work on in LA years ago. Him too, yeah, of course. Yeah. All right, I'll just hit us with another one. Hey, Stas. Big fan of the show. So I'll get right to it. Basically, I have a group of college friends. I'm 34. Really like the only time I get to see these guys is about once a year or so. Whenever someone gets married or we have a bachelor party or something like that. And what's going on now is one of the guys in the group. I found out he's getting married. And I found out because another one of the friends texted me and asked if I was going. And I found out that I didn't get an invite. And basically my question is, is I, I'm wondering, is it cool? Like I changed my email and I changed my phone number about a year ago. And I'm wondering, is it cool to kind of ask my other friends who told me about the wedding to kind of like push around and see if it's possible that maybe like he just like texted the wrong number. You want to go to a wedding? Since the wrong email. At the same time, I really don't want to seem like I'm fishing for an invite. I mean, I am a little bombarded that I didn't get invited, but, but you know, it's his voting. And you know, I respect the decision. And the last thing I would want to do is be at a thing where I'm not wanted. But I love these guys and I love hanging out with them whenever I get the opportunity to be really bummed, especially if I found out that, you know, it's just a misconnection. To get a little more context, I mean, we're in a fantasy football group together. And we had to like remake the group last year because I changed my numbers. So that's the thing is I think that you probably just didn't invite the number dog. The feeling that you change your fucking email and number. No, maybe this misunderstanding. I don't know. Did you change your fucking address? You can just sit around here a little bit and ask my friend to do a little digging on my behalf. Just to make sure it's not an understanding or would you just say leave it alone? Leave it alone. I appreciate it in your voice. Leave it alone. He does the amount of time he's like, first of all, they've contacted you since, right? If you change your number a year ago and this has never come up with the person who's not wedding you want to go to, you're not close enough. If you change your number and he didn't realize until it was time for his wedding, that's kind of a bad sign, man. Yeah, I think you gotta leave it alone. I think big, you know, I think from my own life experience, you do gotta let it be. And you gotta be like, hey, it is what it is. Because I think any other option, even if you reach out and they say, oh my bad, we forgot, you still kinda know what y'all relationship is. Yeah, sure, sure. Now, this is funny, because I do have friends too who have invited people or been like, I'm not inviting that guy. And then someone will text him, like, hey man, I'm talking to a bunch of friends who either wedding has went out. And actually I know somebody who didn't go with through a friend, but just texted the guy directly and my friend just folded immediately. And he was like, dude, what? He was like, he got lost. And so there's a little bit of that. There's a little bit of social pressure. Now, this is an interesting question, because I agree that, I mean, clearly again, this guy's feelings are really hurt. And he can't admit that. Just admit that, that's okay. It's okay for your feelings to be hurt. Anytime you're talking about email or phone number though, it's like, oh, it's like she's probably busy. That's why she's not texting me back. Like this is the classic Trill Withers tweet. She'll text you back, bro. She'll just have her little sex or whatever. I don't want to get the wording just right if you could look that up, Elvis. But it's like dog, I don't think it's a fucking, it's your email or your phone number. Now, I will say that if you trust your friends' sort of spy capabilities, if you trust your friends' ability to get some recon, I don't know that, but it's very friend-specific, right? And they would have to be very slick with it to not embarrass you. Because I think the odds that this is some kind of misunderstanding are very low. So unless you have like the suavist James Bond-ass friend, who it doesn't seem like you do, I could see trying to figure out what happened here or like, or trying to get, because this is kind of juicy gossip when a friend gets left out of a wedding invite. Your friends are gonna talk about it. Like again, if me and Elvis and our friend group of like, five or six friends that are tight, if one of those friends didn't invite one of the others to a wedding, it would be a topic of discussion. You know what I mean? And Elvis did have a very small wedding and people's feelings didn't get hurt really, but it was funny to joke about who got invited and who didn't and you know, in the, in Stobby Baby Enterprise in particular, it was funny. Elvis invited one of our coworkers that as a joke, an hour, remember we sent him the invite an hour before the wedding? Yeah. Like, hey man, I really hope you can make it a little last minute ceremony, which was funny as hell. So I think there is a way to at least figure out what happened, because there is some explanation here. And the explanation is, misunderstanding, I would put it 4%. And that's pretty generous, right? Let's say it's a solid, let's give you 5%. But the other options, the devastating options are, he doesn't really like you that much, right? Then the other thing is the partner, right? Like she's just like, I don't fucking want this guy there. Or what probably happened is, they probably don't have that many spots and they just, you made the long list, but when it was time to make some difficult cuts, the guy, the two guys we like least in fantasy football, they're the ones who get cut from the wedding, right? Yeah. Probably what it is, is actually the most devastating thing, which is not he has some secret hatred for you, or that he's harboring some secret, or that his wife secretly hates you. It's actually a little more devastating to just be, realize you're a B minus C plus friend in this guy's life. And he doesn't even not want you around. You might even get invited to the bachelor party. You might get invited to the auxiliary back. You don't get to stay in the house, but you get to go to Topgolf, whatever the fuck, right? That's probably what's happening. So do I think doing a little recon is the worst thing in the world? No, I just think realistically, brace yourself for the fact that you just didn't make the cut. Whatever happens from there happens from there. I say, you know, is this shed some light on your relationships? Do the people you find to be your close friends not think of you that way? Yeah. This is a moment of reflection for that. For sure. And I do feel like, man, but that's the thing too. I'm like, does he really benefit from that investigation though? No, he doesn't benefit from it. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm like, if you, I feel like, I think you could just take it for what it is. And then like you said, put more into the relationships that you see, I guess like a more fruitful bond with. You know what I'm saying? Sure. You can get down to the nitty gritty and be like, well, one time in the fantasy football, I said, his hair line was crooked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can figure that out. Or you can be like, oh, this cat wife don't like me. Or like you said, you was at the cut. But none of those things fixed the issue, which is you thought you was closer with somebody that you weren't. That's a good point. And yeah, maybe if you want to have it, now the Zen approach has been like, oh, okay. They didn't have room. Who cares? And you don't let that affect you at all. Which I think is probably the best thing to do. And he might even grow to regret not inviting you. Oh, is that Norman? I don't know. Yeah. Next week, Mark Norman will be. Yeah, he'll be. Yeah. Yeah, he's getting here early. We're gonna hang out for a week straight so that we have really good chemistry on the pod. Well, I guess that's gonna do it for us. I didn't, we're having such a fun time. Come on in. What's up, buddy? Yep. Thank you. So yeah, Mark's here for a week. We're gonna hang out and really get in the zone for next week's episode. But yeah, we think, I think we figured out with that guy. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, don't, don't invite your fuck. You got to take a pistol, go, go in there. Man, thanks for coming, brother. Thanks for having me. This is so fun. I enjoy this program a lot. Yeah. You're well, you're, we'll have you back. Absolutely. And we will do the tournament of the dessert. We got to come up with the right acronym. The dessert tournament. The dessert tournament, the DT. The, we got it. We get with D and T is a nice beginning and end. Yeah. To dark. Can we do dessert? Yeah. Yeah. We got to do the dessert tournament. We got to do the dessert tournament. Yeah. We got to do the dessert tournament. Dessert, appreciation. We'll figure it out. DART is cool. Something fat, something that sounds delicious. Anyway, we're not going to come up with it right now, but happy 420, everyone. Legalize it, you know. Psst, psst, psst. Keep playing us two joints by Sublime. Yeah. 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