The Dr. John Delony Show

I Don't Agree With My Husband’s Laid-Back Lifestyle

45 min
Jan 21, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Dr. John Delony addresses three callers navigating relationship challenges: a wife struggling with productivity expectations versus her husband's need for downtime, parents competing with an over-gifting mother-in-law at Christmas, and a woman helping a friend escape domestic abuse who is considering returning to her abuser.

Insights
  • Unspoken expectations in relationships function as 'pre-arranged resentments' that create proxy wars over surface issues like chores, masking deeper needs for connection and validation
  • High-performing individuals often use external accomplishments (clean homes, completed lists) to fill internal voids of self-worth, creating unsustainable cycles that damage relationships
  • Abuse victims experience neurologically-wired patterns of reconciliation after violence, where post-incident affection becomes addictive, making logical arguments ineffective without professional intervention
  • Parental boundaries with adult children require choosing spousal loyalty over family harmony—attempting both simultaneously is psychologically impossible
  • Grief and powerlessness are natural responses when helping others who reject assistance, requiring acceptance rather than continued persuasion
Trends
Rising awareness of emotional labor imbalance in dual-income households with children, particularly between high-achieving partners and those prioritizing recoverySocial media-driven perfectionism standards in parenting and homemaking creating unrealistic benchmarks and internal shame cyclesShift toward recognizing abuse as a neurological/trauma response rather than a rational choice, requiring specialized intervention beyond friendship supportGenerational differences in gift-giving expectations and Christmas traditions creating family tension around materialism and parental identityIncreased focus on boundary-setting with adult children as a marriage preservation strategy
Topics
Marital conflict resolution and communicationEmotional labor distribution in relationshipsPerfectionism and self-worth tied to productivityDomestic abuse cycles and victim psychologyBoundary-setting with family membersParenting expectations and gift-giving normsPost-trauma bonding and reconciliation patternsSpousal loyalty versus family harmonyGrief and powerlessness in helping relationshipsDowntime and recovery needs in high-stress occupationsProxy conflicts masking deeper relational needsAdult children interference in marriagesChild safety and mandatory reporting considerations
People
Mel Robbins
Referenced as a productivity/motivation influencer that the first caller admires, contrasting with her husband's laid...
Quotes
"Unspoken expectations are pre-arranged resentments"
Dr. John DelonyFirst caller segment
"If the basket of clothes is proof to you that you're not enough, nothing there's going to be no proof that's going to have to be you deciding I'm going to change that story"
Dr. John DelonyFirst caller segment
"I need a rider die again"
Caller (Haley)First caller segment
"I can't stop you from being an adult, but I can do everything I can to put my head on my pillow at night knowing I kept a child safe"
Dr. John DelonyThird caller segment
"Nobody, and I mean nobody gets between me and my wife, period. We are one."
Dr. John DelonyMoney and marriage question segment
Full Transcript
So my husband and I, I'm just curious how we can come to a common ground regarding our different energy levels and different ideas of productivity. You're saying that so clinically. Alright, put your notes away. What's the real thing beneath a thing? What's going on? What's going on? This is John, the Dr. John Deloney show taking your calls from Nashville, Tennessee. They'll be calling it from all over the planet, talking about their mental and emotional health, their relationships, whatever you got going on in your life for two decades. I've been sitting with hurting people, trying to figure out what's the next right move. And I'm glad that you're with us, whether you're calling into the show or whether you are listening to the show wanting to, man, help be a part of healing this mess that we got on our hands. If there's a culture as a country, all over the place. Thank you for tuning in and together we're going to get this thing right. Alright, boys, Idaho's talk to Haley. What's up, Haley? Hey Dr. John, how are you today? I'm great. How about you? Doing good. Thank you. It's an honor to talk to you. It's an honor to talk to you. Thanks for calling. What's going on? Yeah. So my husband and I, I'm just curious how we can come to a common ground regarding our different energy levels and different ideas of productivity. You're saying that so clinically. What is that? Well, I wrote it down so I didn't get it. Alright, put your notes away. What's the real thing beneath the thing? Well, as your husband lazy and you like to crush it and kill it, you love Mel Robbins and he's more like, hey, let's play video games. No, I mean, I would not consider my husband a lazy person at all. He is a law enforcement officer and he works long days and I am a home mom and I love it. It's the biggest blessing. But we just, I am just like, have this checklist of things that I need to get down throughout the day. And he is more so, I need to have this downtime before I can even work on this checklist. He's me. We've had a lot of conversations about this. It's not something that is, not something that we don't talk about. We talk about it a lot. It's probably the biggest point of contention in our marriage and it, it, it, it, the only resolution we ever seem to come to is that we're just different. And sometimes it's just challenging because I don't want to feel that resentment towards him as far as there's a pile of laundry that could be folded. There's dishes that could be done. And I know that you've worked hard and you're gone all day, but I just need, we just have different ideas as far as I can relax once all this is done. And he said, well, I'll get it done. I just need to a little bit of relaxing time. And it's just very frustrating for both of us. So beneath that list is what? And I believe beneath my list is probably the need to feel peaceful and to feel. Okay, I've accomplished what I need to get done and there's not anything sitting on my brain anymore that keeps me from feeling relaxed. So why is it? He can feel relaxed whenever. If there's something sitting on your brain, why is it somebody else's responsibility to get it off? It isn't. You're right. It isn't. You're right. It isn't. Or is it is it is that responsibility come from a picture that you have of a good wife has a house that looks like this? Or a good mom is like this? Or is it the list is a road map for you to feel like this guy is actually plugged into the pulse of your house? I probably, probably a bit of all of that, honestly. I want like I'll find myself being frustrated as he's. And it's fun when you get someone from work, our kid. He's an amazing father, but you know, sometimes their child is like, you can tell he wants attention and my husband will kind of just be, and I'll leave a little tent to relax. And I'm like, I don't want. I just get so worried that something that their relationship is going to hurt because of that. Okay. And so I think there's no evidence that it will. Well, I mean, there is. I mean, there is tons of evidence. I wouldn't have a show if it wasn't for moms and dads coming home and gluing themselves to a screen to avoid that feeling of powerlessness and worthlessness and exhaustion at home. I wouldn't have a job if that didn't happen, right? So you're right to worry, but what feels like the blinking lights for me are that y'all are having, you've probably heard me say this, y'all are having proxy wars. And I want to define what does downtime mean. And what does this list represent? And if the list represents a story you've told yourself about what makes you a good wife and a good mother and a good partner, then you've got a partner walking in the door, stepping over the laundry. Be like, I don't care about that. And so that means it's a story you're telling yourself and we need to read either. I'm just going to do the law. I'm just going to fold it because it's my burden I'm placing on myself or I need to exhale and realize I got to change my story about the sheds and the haftos because they're not true. They may have they may have served me in a former life as a kid, but they're not serving me now. Or if that list is a representation of we have this new kid and I'm losing my guy, I miss you. And if he walks in the door and home is a place where he comes in and has yet another sergeant barking orders at him. Or he feels like I walk in the door and I'm not it's not a place where I can drop my shoulders and that everyone's happy that I'm here. It's a place where I'm yet again doing things not the right way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, totally. And then quote unquote, down time. It's not downtime. It's not rest and recovery. It's not like on Saturday, this past Saturday, my wife said, hey, I'm going to take an app for an hour and a half. That was a bounded time. I need a way from you and Josephine because you all are bickering and fighting me and my daughter always wrestling with each other. And I need to what and I need some sleep. I'm going to go to some sleep. I'll be back in 90 minutes. It was awesome. And honestly, I don't know when she came out. It could have been two and a half hours later. I don't know, but it was it was not I need to not be present with y'all. It was I need some R and R and here's what that's going to look like. So it's these it's these dot dot dots. What is what does quote unquote downtime mean? And is it transitioning from hey, I had to show up to 25 strangers homes and cars today in every one of those. I thought I could get killed and not be able to come home to you. And I just need to exhale. Cool. Maybe that's going to the gym then. Maybe that's sitting in the driveway for 30 minutes. Maybe that's walking in and you greeting him with a cup of coffee. But that's different than I'm walking in my front door. And I've all here I am. I'm back to another failing and I feel like my homes are failure factory. I'm not good enough here either. And then you feel like I'm not my my failure of spiles because I don't feel like I'm in the she had just gets in this weird figure eight. Yes. You make more lists and he detaches more and all of a sudden you know. Yeah. It don't want that. Yeah. So let me ask you what does the list represent for you? What does it mean? I think I think you're right. Like I want to be want to have this nice clean house and my kids have a nice book to me. I don't want to know. I just I think it's standards I hold myself to and where do those come from? And that doesn't have to be some deep psychological summer other but where do these standards come from that this is what a house is supposed to be kids got to eat right and like your kids diapers whatever but like where does the this house has to look like this and operate like this or I'm not enough. I mean it's so I've been telling myself that for so long and the only thing I can think is it I'm sure social media has to do with it. Other people but I also think it's a. Being it's just a society thing I think it's just like if I can't like people with 10 kids are doing this better than I am with two kids. They're not they're absolutely not 100% they're not guaranteed. Right. That's my house. 100% you know I know because I'm in their homes they're not. Yeah they're not. And but let's get to the bottom the thing beneath the thing beneath the thing there's something powerful about you telling your husband. I feel seen and known and loved when you walk in the door and I know you're exhausted and the first thing you do is you scan the room and grab the basket of laundry and take it to our bedroom and fold it. Oh yeah yeah and I told them that and anytime we're really good about anytime. Hey thank you so much for doing the dishes it really means a lot to me. Thank you so you know we're really good communication. Just don't see it like my expectations you did this yesterday. Why don't you do it today in the next day. And and I think and there's no consistency there with how we are different in that it's like some days he's really good about hopping up and and not taking two hours of downtime and and he comes home right away and is spending time with our kids and but then the next day it's like he just it's a complete opposite and I really struggle with. I've consistency there. Yeah I don't know where I heard this but it's kind of stuck in my head that unspoken expectations are pre arranged resentments. Yeah and I know that one thing I've always had to manage my expectations. I think I'm learning for sure. Well I think it's less about managing expectations and managing the finish line. Because the moment you cross the marathon finish line you look up and you're like I need to run five more miles. I need to run 10 more miles. Having high expectations is amazing especially when they're in service to something not when they're equally a drug. Like I need this to look like this like I need the laundry to get done because I need the freaking laundry to get done. That's one thing that's easy peasy dude. But when it is I need the laundry to done to get done so I can quote unquote feel like I'm now worthy of being a wife and mother. The moment that laundry gets done it just will move to the next thing because that's a bottomless pit because you're seeking external validation for an internal hole in your chest. Definitely. Does that make does that make sense? Yeah. When he does the dishes and you say thank you for doing the dishes. That it's almost like it's a transaction. Yeah. Don't want that. Instead of like he's doing the dishes and you walk by and I don't know what else. What? I don't know if he just likes it when you put your hand on his arm under the table or if you whap him on the butt when you walk by or if you put your hand on the back of his eye. But it's it's those are the gotments calling bids. Those are small attenuations to we're in this together. Not you did this so I'll give you that. And if the laundry becomes the proxy war or the dishes become the you just came home and sat down and you I need to the dishes done. Really the thing here is I miss you and we're in this thing together. I need to feel like I got a partner in this thing. Otherwise three days he'll go to the dishes when he sees them. Great. I think off the box and that's not really what you're aiming at what you're aiming at is I need a rider die again. Yeah. Is that fair? That's very fair. And sometimes the laundry can just be about the laundry. Get up and do the laundry. Like I need you to fold this like okay cool got it. Yeah. But if the basket of clothes is is proof to you that you're not enough. Nothing there's going to be no proof there. That's going to have to be you deciding I'm going to change that story that I am enough that he married well I'm a good mom. Do you believe those things? Yeah I do. I do. No, no, if I do on a circus level or if I do deep down but there's definitely a missing piece there. Okay. I've seen couples be really successful when they and you've heard me say this a million times and I feel like I'm beating a drum here of y'all going out and saying hey we have a new marriage now. The marriage we had when you were a young cop and I was a young cop's wife and we could make out whenever we wanted to and I thought it was kind of sexy that you were a cop and we'd go out and whatever. And then we had kid one and we had kid two we have a brand new marriage now. And then. And so I want to clear the deck and ask this question how do we want the home to feel when you walk in at the end of the day. And what must be true there and him say here's how how do I want you to feel when I walk in the door. And if 30 minutes of doing chores when he walks in the door allows the whole house to drop their shoulders so that the rest of the evening can just be pure hangout laughter, goofball, whatever. As he calls it downtime that's amazing. Knock that out. Dude, that's easy. But if downtime is his way of avoiding the fact that he feels like he lives in a failure factory and you are making lists to prove that he doesn't really want to be a part of this team, it just gets in this weird figure eight. Well, I think you're pretty great mom. I think you're pretty great wife. And my guess is your husband's a pretty good guy too is that fair? Yes, he's the best. Okay, would he say you're the best? Yes. Okay. In those moments where we can't believe it in ourselves when we look in the mirror and all we see is the new wrinkle, the new three pounds, the new unchecked boxes on yesterday's list. In those seasons, those days, those hours, those minutes, it's good to have a writer die with us that we can outsource some of that feeling to them. Okay. And maybe it's as simple as you text him and saying, Hey, if I text you and say, would you? And he's like, Oh, yeah, I would. That's all I need. Or set your timer on your phone and text me twice a day that you love me. Done. This is a tough, messy middle. Y'all have a good marriage, but you want it to be different. You want it to be better. And that's awesome. And I love it and support it. But if you're want it to be better so that you don't feel the way you feel inside, I want you to go sit with a counselor and say, I got an amazing husband. I got an amazing life. I got amazing kids. And I still have this nagging sense that I'm not enough. Let's dig into that because you're worth peace. All right. When we come back, a woman asks how to get her mother in law to stop giving so many gifts on Christmas. This is an interesting take. Stay with me on this one. Hey, what up? How are we doing? Listen, my family and I traveled a lot this holiday season. In some of the mattresses I slept on were not the best. I found myself counting down the hours until I could get back home onto my Helix mattress. Sleeping on a Helix mattress has transformed my rest. 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Until helix, you heard about their incredible mattresses right here on the Dr. John Deloney show with helix better sleep starts right now. It's got to Selena Kansas and talk to Ann, not of green gables. What's up, Ann? Not a lot. How are you? I'm good. What's going on? So essentially my mother and law has always like gone above and beyond at Christmas. And we now like have three kids and this has been an ongoing issue. Like over the last several years and we've tried talking to her about it. And she just gets a little hostile, but it's to the point that like her budget is the same as ours, but she gets smaller things. So like we'll get a, I don't know, we can usually get like five to seven things per kid and we go over there and it's like last year she had a whole bunch of stuff in stockings, like 10 to 15 presents a kid and then another bag of clothes. Like it's just so over the top that we feel like we're competing with her from kids. Yeah, so let me ask that question. What is it? Holder your kids. They are six four and one and a half. Okay. What is it? Our six year old is getting to the age where he could make comments and like notice. Sure, but what is it about these gifts that you don't like? I didn't grow up with that big of a Christmas, but I still like woke up on Christmas morning excited for like my parents Christmas. And I feel like we're and my husband's on the same page like we both feel like we're missing out on like giving our own kids the magic of Christmas. So it's a little bit of that, but it's also like when we bring it into our house, it's just so much stuff. Like their stuff that she got them last year that I don't think was ever played with like I probably took it down to our storage in a toe months later without it being played with very much. Well, so there's two different things here. Number one are there's three different things going on here. I'll go in order of importance. Number one. I would challenge you and your husband to get out of the competition game right now. Yeah, because you're not just going to play that with your mother-in-law. You're going to play that with your neighbors. You're going to play that with schoolmates. You're going to play that with kids parents that go to school with your kids. Like that's a that's a that will suck the soul out of your home. And so if people find themselves able to bless your family over time and you're like, well, we want to be the ones who get we want our kids to be happy about us not about them. Then man, that's a that's a dangerous place to go down. The second part of that is if you'll have established a boundary right now that your mother-in-law is blowing by when it comes to presence, my guess is she blows by other boundaries to is that sure or no. I don't feel like I mean at the beginning of our marriage, my husband had to set up like a lot of guardrails and he's had a lot of like hard conversations, but I don't feel like they really do anymore. We have a really good relationship with them. Okay. Then that leads me to the third thing, which is if if I guess you definitely try to sometimes my husband is willing to put her back in her place. That's awesome. That's great. That means you married really well. Well done on that one. Yeah. Tell me like it isn't coming down to your mother-in-law's buying more presents than y'all are. You feel like she's taking you as somebody else's thunder. Somewhat. I mean I think my husband I didn't grow up with anywhere near this habit of Christmas is like I think the first year I was in this family she spent more money on me than my parents usually do at Christmas. So that was shocking, but I think he kind of wanted to be able to give hit our kids like the shell shock that he normally got walking down on Christmas. And now like they get more shocked from his parents, so that bothers him. But you realize he's the focus. Yeah. And not just the kids. I hear it now. Okay. All right. Let's let's let shell shocking. That's even a dramatic way to say, but let's let Christmas be magic for them. By the way, my daughter's 10 now. My sister spoils her and my son in the most mad houseways. And you know what I love it. I love it for my sister. I love it for my kids. And do I wish do I have the money to buy all that? Yep, I actually do like I'm in just in a season of blessing right I could buy all that stuff. I love that she has that my daughter has that connective relationship with my sister. I love it. I love that my sister will see something throughout the year and be like my 10 year old niece is going to love that. And but that took me taking myself out of that equation and the the epicenter there is. My daughter has a special relationship with her aunt, which I think is amazing. I think a little bit of it is also like I don't know what our six year old is going to say this year, but like last year. We he started opening stuff and was kind of like that's it like at our house and I was like I mean I spend a hundred dollars on a Lego set I can't buy. Well, I think I think okay, so. Number one six year old say six year old stuff. Yeah, I'm not going to be beholden to the whims of what a six year old is going to think about me. I'm going to be responsible parent with my budget. And. Sitting your six year old old enough to say is it six year old still believe in Santa Claus or does he know about you. Yeah, no, he still believes in Santa. Okay, yes, then what a magic thing Santa brings these gifts right here and then grandma is going to spoil you run and just setting that up that way. Yeah, and then when you start having different conversations about where Christmas presents come from, etc. Then y'all can sit down and say we have a we have this much mine to spend we have this much budget. But six year old you're going to say six year old stuff I'm not going to be beholden to a six year old especially their sugar filled sleep deprived on one morning of the year. You know what I mean? Yeah. And six years old is pretty young even to be like you should be grateful there's six there's six. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, he doesn't have any concept of money or anything. No, he has a concept of volume. Yeah. And let's back all that in a perfect world if our if our parents and our in-laws did exactly what we wanted to all the time would that be cool. Yeah, probably. Is that the real world? No, it's not. And so if you get a sense that your mother-in-law is trying to like shame you like I'm going to come over the top and crush my poor son and his poor new wife and embarrass them. Yeah, I'm not going I'm not going to go be a part of that. But it sounds like your mother-in-law and your father-in-law have always had a history of really outdoing themselves for Christmas. And if it makes you guys feel small then I'll put that back on y'all and say why don't we back up and just say our kids get a magical overindulgence and it's great. It's fine. And if our six year old goes that's it be like yep, that's it. Santa really hooked you up this year. Let's look at this. Let's look at this set of Legos. And let's just go we're going to blow right through those kind of little six year old comments. When a six year old knows who I can affect the whole emotional temperature in this house of the adults by just one little sentence, they'll begin to weaponize that. If they know mom and dad just go right through it. Great. Cool. But yeah, I mean it's six when we have to those in another doesn't sound like your mother is a bad person at all. She's just trying to bulldoze your your boundary sounds like she's always been the Christmas person always loved Christmas and whatever. And I don't know dude think about it through the kids eyes. I'd say let them have it. I'd say let them have it. Unless it's a big issue with you and your husband and y'all got to make a choice we're not going to go to Christmas. We're not going to go there anymore because we want to be the center of our kids gifts gift receiving not them. I just might too since on it. I love people being them full their full selves and then I as the adult have to make the decisions on the back end. I'm going to put 95% of this in them and it been great cool. And then I'm going to make sure somebody who actually wants it or needs it is going to get it down the road. That's just me being an adult there. So thanks for the call sister I know a lot of people going through this and it's got a lot of layers to it so it's a lot there but in this situation I don't know man I just say let mother and all do mother and all stuff. And be grateful that your kids are getting spoiled rotten magic day with grandma grandpa. We come back a woman asks how to sit down and talk to her friend who keeps wanting to go back to her abusive ex. I talk a lot about sleep because sleep is super important. I've struggled personally with sleep for years and when I don't sleep I'm impatient I'm distracted and I'm not the dad in the husband or friend I want to be or need to be. And that's why I'm pumped to tell you about something that's truly helped me sleep better. Beams nighttime dream powder. I'm telling everybody about this because it works and it's also delicious. My go to flavor is sea salt caramel mixed with almond milk before bed. Whoo night night. 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Yeah, is that better? Perfect. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, so she came to me, telling me about her abusive situation. And I had the adventure of having a couple of guests room. So I offered to let her enter seven year old girl move in with me. I offered them free rent for 90 days to help them get on their feet. And at the same time, she's starting to try and build her own business. So I really love to see her succeed with that and I've been trying to support her through that. But recently she has been talking about just going back to him and back to that situation. And what do I tell her? Like, this is such a terrible idea. Hmm. That one's hard, huh? Yeah. What kind of abusive situation is it? Is it emotionally abusive or physically abusive or sexually abusive? Um, so he hasn't been physically abusive in the last year, but he hasn't passed. Um, he has broken nose. He's put his hands around the throat. Um, very scary stuff. And she also found out that his parents, they were one their property were also housing and employing a man with multiple counts of child sexual assaults on the same property. Yeah. The first seven-year-old daughter and didn't tell her about it. Well, there's two complexities here. I guess what I would say is I have a firm rule that in, in, when it comes to people, well, anybody, be honest with you, but especially with people I love and care about. I, I'll tell the truth best I can and I'll risk the friendship and the relationship to let people know a that I see what's going on. B that, um, I'm not, it's unsafe and it would be unloving for me to not say anything and see, um, here's an alternative path for you. I feel like I've been trying my best to offer that the alternative path and I'm really grateful that she has moved in with me and started taking these steps that just really scares me like. She just spent a whole week with him on a vacation for the holiday and I've already started talking about what it would look like if she were to move back in and. It just seems like a very scary situation to me. It is the problem, the problem is she's an adult and you don't get a vote in what she does next. And so there's, there's that grief. There's that powerless feeling. And that's where you sitting down and saying you're talking about what we're going to do with them. I remember you with the broken nose. I remember you knocking on my door in the rain at midnight. I remember these things and I can't get that out of my head. I think it's a terrible idea for you to go back. I've tried to stress this to her because I actually was very close with a man in college who. On a live two-girlfriend and her kid and. It's just like really hit hard home for me and I just yeah. I can't stress it enough. Yeah. So I'm trusting that you're stressing it. I think the part for you to be open-handed about is she does she's hearing you and doesn't care. Yeah. Right. I think it's like that's hard for you to come to terms with at the end of the day. There's no coming to terms with it. It's just it's grief. Yeah. Because you're powerless. Now, if there is a child who's being endangered, I'm going to let her know if you move this child back and there's a child sexual predator there. I'm going to call every agency I can to protect that kid. Yeah. And I would. I wouldn't miss words on that one. Yeah. No where, no how. Because I can't protect you because you're an adult, but I will go to the ends of the earth to protect that kid. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just being it's saying it in the way I just said it. I'm going to be firm and I'm going to be very clear. If you don't care about your own safety as an adult, I can't stop you. I can tell you that the door is always open for you, but I can't stop you. I will do everything in my power. If you if you demonstrate through your actions that you don't care about your daughter and you're going to put her in the presence of a sexual predator. Yeah, that's definitely something that I should not just let go. Yeah. I cannot let go. Correct. And it may be that that guy's got to move out because he's got to be away from kids. I don't know. I don't know the legalities of where you're calling from and all that, but I would look the parent in the eye and say I'll call everybody on the planet. Yeah. Everyone. Because I can't I can't stop you from being an adult, but I can do everything I can to put my head on my pillow at night knowing I kept a child safe. Yeah. Definitely. And it may be conversations about how I said 90 days stay another six months if you're trying to get back on your feet. Yeah. I did offer her like a very small she would pay a small amount of rent going forward after that, but I gave her 90 days with no rent. Just to help her get started. Of course. No, I mean, you don't have to go back and validate what you did. I mean, you're incredibly generous and kind and welcoming. You're the neighbor that we all want to have. And you're the neighbor that we all want to be. Yeah. What most people don't have a psychology for is what do you do when you open your hands to help and someone says nah. Yeah. Right. And this is an old statistic. So I hesitate to even bring it up because I haven't looked. I haven't looked in recent years, but the last I remembered it might have been all the way back in grad school years ago. I was up to seven. Leavings and going back, leaving, and going back before an abused woman actually leaves for good. And I try and tell myself back is I don't know what it's like, but I do know that that is the reality. And it's not about me. It's not personal. It's, you know, having everything to do. It helped just challenge me to have a missed her community. So I have been trying to like. And that will occur into my community as much as I can. Well, it's less about that and more so many abuse victims. There's a, I mean, this is wired into the nervous system. This happened when they were younger. And when somebody is good at gaslighting when they hit you, they figure out a way to make it your fault. Or if you read the literature on abuse survivors, the abuser builds up and builds up and builds up. And there's an explosion. And there's no greater sense of love and belonging than immediately after the explosion. And that becomes a drug. Because there's a picture. There's a lived experience of someone who just got hurt by an abuser of, but look how nice and loving and sorry and welcoming they are now. This is who they really are. I know. I hear it. I hear the excuses. Right. But she has a lived experience of, I know how wonderful and great he is. It's just on the back end of him breaking her nose. Yeah. And so it's a distorted reality. She's a victim of the health of the cause of the colon in a year. And I'm like, because she hasn't changed anything now. I don't think it matters. I know, but that's not the question she's asking. Yeah. And it may be, hey, if this happens, like, this isn't going to be a safe place for you to come back. This isn't going to be a place for you to come back to. It can't be a revolving door or you can put whatever boundaries you want on it. Whatever you feel comfortable with. But the meta here is, hey, I'm always going to default to protect kids anywhere, any cost at any cost. I'm going to go protect kids. The second thing is, is you recognizing, hey, you're an adult and I can't stop you. But I need you to hear me say, this is going to happen again. And I'm worried this time you're going to be in the hospital. Or this time you're going to be hurt permanently. And I need to say clearly one more time. I don't think this is a good idea. You can stay here as long as you need. I'm glad that you're here. I'm going to have some extra bedrooms for you and your daughter. And then if she packs up and walks out the door, you have to spend some time in deep grief. Because that departure is not about you. And nothing's harder than really opening the door and extending a helping hand to somebody, having them say, nah, I don't want it. Not now. Sorry, Sarah. I hate this for you. Maybe given her a letter as she leaves so that she can go back and read it when things get scary again. Or when that feeling comes back or that heaviness comes back, she'll be able to hear your voice in that letter that just says I love you. My front door is always open. And let's don't wait until there's blood this time. Thanks, Nicole. We'll be right back. All right, the new year is here. You know what that means? It's time for new towels from Cozy Earth. Throw out those disgusting old towels that you're ant gave you at your wedding or that you took from your brother's friend's roommate. 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All right, here's a money and marriage question. This is an anonymous question that somebody left. How do you deal with adult children who try to insert themselves in your marriage, especially when they intentionally try to divide their parents? Very simply, nobody, and I mean nobody gets between me and my wife, period. We are one. There is no separation between the two of us. And so whether it's a stranger, whether it's a friend, whether it's an adult kid, and they're trying to get between me and my spouse, they are no longer have a vote. And so sometimes that looks like saying this, and I've seen this done successfully, I'm going to stop you right there. I'm not going to have you say anything bad about my wife. That's my mom. That is my wife. Or stop talking about your dad like that with me. I'm a smart woman. I know that he's got challenges, but I'm not going to hear it from you any further. Thank you. End of story. Ta-da. Ta-da. What most people try to do is preserve harmony. I want to have a good relationship with my adult kids, and they keep talking crap about my husband or my wife. And you can't do both. It's hard to keep peace when one person is declaring war on your... Till death do us part. Partner. So, in that case, anyone trying to divide me and my wife? I'm sure who you are. You're not going to come between us. And it usually is very strong boundaries, very strong direct conversations. And adult kids, unless you discover something, oh my gosh, a secret affair, or money being spent that you don't know, unless you discover that, here's the deal. Your mom or your dad, they know about your other parents' shortcomings. They know and bring them up and trying to divide your parents isn't helping. Being present with them will. Giving them a shoulder to cry on, a hand to hold, a person to have nachos with, that will. But don't divide up people. Be their biggest fan. Love you guys. Be nice to each other. See ya.