She Was Pro-Choice… Then This Happened... | Lydia Taylor Davis | DSH #1964
42 min
•May 14, 202616 days agoSummary
Lydia Taylor Davis, spokesperson for Students for Life, discusses her journey from pro-choice to pro-life activism, undercover investigations into abortion pill distribution, late-term abortion practices, and efforts to combat chemical abortion trafficking on college campuses across America.
Insights
- Gen Z shows increasing pro-life sentiment despite cultural messaging, with campus activism converting 8-10 people per event and 200,000+ minds changed in 2025
- Chemical abortion pills are accessible to minors without age verification, enabling sex trafficking victims to obtain pills without detection or parental knowledge
- Planned Parenthood's historical racist roots and current facility placement in Black communities disproportionately affects Black populations, with Black babies more likely to be aborted than born in major cities
- Pro-life movement provides 10x more pregnancy resource centers than abortion facilities, offering financial support, formula, diapers, and ultrasounds that abortion industry does not
- IVF industry kills more pre-born babies than Planned Parenthood through embryo discarding and eugenic selection practices, creating ethical concerns within pro-life movement
Trends
Declining birth rates in developed nations creating demographic crisis, with abortion and hookup culture contributing to population collapseIncreased security threats and violence against pro-life activists, requiring bulletproof vests and armed security at campus eventsChemical abortion pill trafficking becoming primary abortion method, circumventing state-level pro-life laws through mail deliveryGen Z cultural shift toward selflessness and family values as counter to millennial self-focused messagingPolitical weaponization of FACE Act against pro-life protesters while ignoring violations by other groupsEpstein files revealing connections between abortion industry, sex trafficking, and exploitation networksCampus activism as primary battleground for cultural change, with Students for Life operating 1,600+ student groups nationwideDefunding of Planned Parenthood accelerating, with 70 facilities closed in 2025 due to legislative actionUndercover investigations and social media exposure (100M+ views) influencing presidential elections and policyIntegration of pro-life messaging into elementary and middle school curricula as counter to pro-abortion sex education
Topics
Chemical Abortion Pill Trafficking and RegulationPro-Life Campus Activism and Student RecruitmentLate-Term Abortion Practices and Viability StandardsPlanned Parenthood Defunding and Facility ClosuresSex Trafficking and Abortion Industry ConnectionsIVF Ethics and Embryo CommodificationRacial Disparities in Abortion AccessPregnancy Resource Centers vs. Abortion FacilitiesGen Z Pro-Life Movement GrowthFACE Act Weaponization Against ProtestersUndercover Investigation TechniquesHookup Culture and Birth Rate DeclineReligious Liberty and Abortion ActivismEpstein Files and Political AccountabilityTrump Administration Pro-Life Policy
Companies
Planned Parenthood
Primary target of pro-life activism; discussed for racist founding, facility closures, and lack of support services c...
Students for Life
Guest's organization operating 1,600+ student groups nationwide, conducting undercover investigations and campus acti...
People
Lydia Taylor Davis
Pro-life activist discussing her conversion from pro-choice, undercover investigations, and campus activism work
Charlie Kirk
Referenced as deceased pro-life advocate whose death motivated continued activism and increased movement engagement
Kristen Hawkins
Colleague conducting undercover investigations into late-term abortion practices and chemical pill distribution
Margaret Sanger
Historical figure cited for racist statements and KKK connections, establishing Planned Parenthood's alleged racist r...
Abby Johnson
Former Planned Parenthood director who had multiple abortions before becoming pro-life leader
Quotes
"I went undercover with Students for Life. We did an undercover investigation to see if I could pose as a minor and get chemical abortion pills shipped to my address and I could. They didn't verify my age. They didn't verify I could have been an abuser, a sex trafficker."
Lydia Taylor Davis•Early in episode
"A black baby is more likely to be aborted than born in major cities like New York."
Lydia Taylor Davis•Mid-episode
"Consent to sex is consent to pregnancy. And they look at me horrified and say 'you really expect us not to have sex?' Yes, self-control does exist."
Lydia Taylor Davis•Later in episode
"The pro-life movement offers pregnancy resource centers across the nation that outnumber Planned Parenthood abortion facilities times 10 with financial support, diapers, formula, supplies, free ultrasounds."
Lydia Taylor Davis•Mid-episode
"We changed over 200,000 minds on abortion last year in 2025. We hit 1,600 student groups across the nation at middle school, high school, college where there's a pro-life campus group that's changing hearts and minds."
Lydia Taylor Davis•Early-mid episode
Full Transcript
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I went undercover with Students for Life. We did an undercover investigation to see if I could pose as a minor and get chemical abortion pills shipped to my address and I could. And they did not verify one thing about me. They didn't verify my age. They didn't verify. I could have been a abuse trafficker. They didn't care. All they wanted was money and they'll send them right to you and actually you can if you give them some sort of excuse of oh I can't pay for them. They'll oftentimes even ship them to you for free. Okay guys got Lydia Taylor Davis here today. We're going to talk about an important topic today aren't we? Yes we are. I'm excited. Yeah abortion. Had your colleague Kristen on the show and was learning a lot about it but excited to hear your perspective and how you got into all this as well. Yes thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. So basically for those that don't know you basically go to campuses and bring up the topic of abortion right? Yep that is correct. I have been doing this for years now with Students for Life. I go to college campuses where the most misinformation is being spread about abortion and I confront those students. I have crowds show up that are willing to engage and debate and sometimes they protest me and scream at me but sometimes I have great conversations and it's really powerful to get to see hearts and minds change. Yeah I know you film at all sorts of campuses across the country but overall are most of the people that are disagreeing with you that are in the audience? It depends on the school. Obviously there's areas of the country that are way more pro-abortion. I've been surprised though. I think that really my generation Gen Z has become more pro-life when we've seen that come out in polls that Gen D there's been an increase in young people identifying as pro-life so I have seen that. I've had people come up and and become pro-life there. I had a guy come up to the microphone one time and say I've been here for five minutes and I'm 100% pro-life now. Wow. And so I think really I mean especially following the tragic death of Charlie Kirk we've seen this increase of people excited to find the truth and becoming pro-life and becoming passionately pro-life and so it definitely is a mix and I've had literally Antifa show up and mob me and and try and get me off campus before so it is hard and I have to wear a bulletproof vest now on these campuses sadly but overall I mean it's it's really powerful to see this really revival happening on these college campuses. That's crazy where did Antifa pull up our campus was. Yes so it's something is going on with Virginia I'm telling you that's where I live both VCU Virginia Commonwealth University and University of Mary Washington I had students show up and just they were I mean obviously were threatening me but just evil screaming at me calling me a fascist because clearly the people that are that are yelling at you and trying to silence free speech are totally anti-fascist it was it was completely ironic that the side that claimed to be anti-fascist was engaging in those behaviors and so they they did not successfully chase me away though thankfully if anything I sometimes as ridiculous as they are I get a little bit encouraged when they show up because anytime I have people protest me I have people that become pro-life because they see that behavior of the other side they see how violent and angry and hateful they are and they go I don't want to be on that side I want to be on the pro-life side so I can't be too mad when it happens. Yeah so they're actually hurting themselves. Yes absolutely. That is interesting. Yeah I was actually surprised when I talked to Kristin she said you guys are changing like I think eight to ten people each time you go on campus. Yeah absolutely I mean I think it's even more now I think just young people are just so excited to to pursue truth and I mean our our work has exponentially grown we hit 1600 student groups across the nation so at 1600 schools middle school high school college where there's a pro-life campus group that's changing hearts and minds and so it's every single day we're out there changing minds we changed over 200,000 minds on abortion last year in 2025 so it's it's great it's really going wonderfully. Yeah that's impressive when did you start questioning this because when I was in high school college like it was so normalized in Jersey where I grew up that like when a girl would get it no one really like brought up questions but now it's being talked about right. Yeah yeah I actually myself was once pro-choice I was raised in a pro-life Christian family but no one ever talked about abortion and so being a young person on social media and talking with friends all I ever heard was that narrative of women's rights and health care and I'm like of course I support women's rights of course I support health care and it wasn't until high school I had a foster sister that I cared very deeply about I always had a heart for children in need and caring deeply about her one day and in high school I was talking to my peers and they were kind of talking about abortion and again I didn't know much about it other than it was health care and I I was kind of just listening and until one of the students in my class said to me Lydia we need abortion because foster children like your sister are better off aborted and I was like what what did you just say and I mean in that moment I had to imagine a world without my sister and without the joy she brings to this world and I realized that abortion was not something that was good it wasn't a solution to any problems that the abortion industry is advocating to eliminate foster children instead of support them like the pro-life movement is doing and so I went home quickly did my research found students for life became unapologetically pro-life and have been involved ever since and now it's my full-time job. Wow yeah I've seen a fair amount of debates on the topic I feel like the other side always brings up really extreme examples like the grape stuff and just crazy stuff that isn't common right you know what I mean. Yeah absolutely they use I think it's it's hilarious they claim to care about women but really they're just exploiting those one percent stories this one percent cases to justify abortion for any reason up until the moment of birth and so they take these stories because I personally know women who were raped and and and became pregnant and they're using their situations and exploiting them for their for their own agenda when in reality I work with some of those women those women would say that that child was the one good thing that came out of that horrific situation and that their child did not deserve the death penalty for the crimes of their father and so it's just ridiculous this this pro-abortion movement that claims to support women is actually very anti-women I mean they're either coming after and threatening women like me they're exploiting these stories of other women it's the opposite of feminism. Yeah I'm sure you've heard all the counter arguments at this point right that's the most common one though I've noticed. Absolutely all the time I mean I think that's the one I usually get I get that the this this idea is going around that pro-life laws are leading to women bleeding out in parking lots I hear that all the time which is the total myth every single pro-life law supports medical treatment for women in pregnancies and the medical procedure to save a woman's life is never a direct abortion it's an induction or a c-section where they can always try to save both lives so I would say those two or exceptions are the most common arguments I hear all the time but it's it's funny because I'm like okay those are those are the 1% cases if you and I agree if if we agree that sure it can be allowed in those circumstances would you be okay with ending all of their abortion they go no because they don't actually care about those 1% circumstances they're just using them to fuel their pro-abortion agenda so it's it's all ridiculous it's all they don't actually care about women it's they know the abortion 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essentially is child sacrifice sacrificing a child so you could have more success or be have a more convenient life and so that's the reality of what abortion is and that's why i think it has grown to be so common the other issue now is abortion has become so easily accessible um due to chemical abortion pills where you can get any you can get them anywhere no matter what state you're in which is also very very difficult and you have actually went undercover and you brought some uh yes so i went undercover um with students for life we did an undercover investigation to see if i could pose as a minor and get chemical abortion pills shipped to my address and i could and they did not verify one thing about me they didn't verify my age they didn't verify i could have been a abuser a sex trafficker they didn't care all they all they wanted was money and they'll send them right to you and actually you can uh if you give them some sort of excuse of oh i can't pay for them they'll oftentimes even ship them to you for free and so i got these pills delivered to me um within a week i think and and i mean the first pill um mipha pristone starves the baby of nutrients um and the rest of the pills that are in here mipha pristone they work to induce contractions which are i mean essentially going into labor a lot of women 32 women in america have died from this where um you take them and expel the baby some women see their baby born alive into a toilet um and so i mean it's it's sickening this is what's happening across our country it's the majority of abortions are now chemical abortions and it's happening even in states where abortion is illegal and so you could be in in texas or really any pro life state and still get these pills ordered to you and so that's why we at students for life right now are trying to pass um legislation that stops illegal illegal chemical abortion trafficking it goes after these traffickers um because it's it's so dangerous i mean i could be nine years old and have a if i have access to a cell phone i can get them ordered to me i could be 30 weeks pregnant and get these pills and and easily abort a third trimester baby and so it is it's sickening what's happening and it's really our biggest focus and mission right now at students for life because it's it's really just taken over the abortion industry that's actually insane just growing up like if a teenager got pregnant they had to tell their parents right but now with this i mean yeah you can get them anywhere ordered out like candy and yeah parents will never know right yeah i was at the supreme court at a protest um a couple years ago and they had these abortion robots to dispense abortion pills legit like you said like candy and so it it's really just this they don't actually care about women because if they did they would at least at bare minimum encourage these women to go to a doctor first because if you take these and you have an an ectopic pregnancy that is extremely dangerous i mean we know women have already been hospitalized or killed by these pills and so if anything it's really just exposing how little the abortion industry actually cares about women they care about profiting off of their vulnerability to kill their babies yeah so how much was that exactly yeah so you can get i mean again you can get them for free it depends on how many you can literally order like a whole bundle of like a week's worth of abortion pills i think these i got for 70 bucks online but well legitimately we've had people from our organization order them entirely for free um as well so there are different funds that will help you pay for them um it's just it's it's really sickening and i mean it it's something that they are encouraging children to do behind their parents back they're like oh we'll cover it up for you and i'm like that is so evil that's so it's just the lack of compassion and actual compassion for these children that clearly if there's a child getting pregnant there there needs to be something more done than just prescribed an abortion that that child has gone through something severe and they don't actually care about helping with that trauma they just want to throw abortion as a as a band-aid on on what's going on yeah i know the argument i hear i'm sure you hear this is the financial reason they can't afford it what do you think about that one yep absolutely so we um in the pro-life movement we offer pregnancy resource centers across the nation that outnumber planned parenthood abortion facilities times 10 with our pro-life resource it's financial support diapers formula supplies free ultrasounds we really come alongside these women and and these financial struggles um because yes children are expensive absolutely and so we do offer support because the pro-life movement oftentimes people say that the pro-life movement does not actually care about women and that's not true if you call a planned parenthood right now they are not going to offer you formula or diapers they're gonna offer you abortion yeah they don't care about woman yeah exactly so we are the ones that are actually offering that financial support and actually a lot of our pro-life laws um go and offer funding to these pregnancy centers as well and so we are offering um help and i mean at the end of the day yes it's it's pregnancy is difficult parenting is difficult um but if a mom has a toddler she decides one day you know what it's really expensive to pay for this child's goldfish she can't just go and kill her toddler because they're expensive and so it's ridiculous to say you you can kill a human being because they're financially inconvenient that's why we have support like women are trying to make it so that abortion isn't just illegal but it's unthinkable because we want every woman to feel supported so she doesn't even have to consider ending her child's life yeah the planned parenthood robert hola is a deep one yep i mean those guys they're losing a lot of locations now though i think the truth is getting exposed yes they nearly 70 planned parenthood abortion facilities closed last year in 2025 and it is it is fantastic to see them finally losing it's it's just i mean you definitely play a big role in that i think getting the information out there because this information wasn't really talked about like we said earlier yep students for life we have been really the ones leading the charge to defund planned parenthood which finally was done for one year last summer um thanks to the big beautiful bill um but no this is this has been something we've been calling for for for over a decade now it's students for life because i mean whether or not you you agree with abortion you shouldn't be forcing people's taxpayer dollars to fund it and so it's really ridiculous we're seeing these planned parenthood facilities claim that oh abortion is only a fraction of what we do it's all wise it's all wise because if that if that 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done a lot of i've done various undercover investigations um we've we obviously sidewalk council outside of plan parent had one of the things that we did um especially during the presidential election there was a lot of misinformation out there about late term abortion for those who remember um cottonhole heros i know we left her in 2024 but those of you who can remember um back to the presidential election there was a debate between shroom and kamala where he accuses her of supporting late term abortion and she claims oh that doesn't exist it's it's an insult to women to say that late term abortion is happening and so uh christen hawkins and i after that debate were like we we got a caller out on that and so we called abortion facilities um across the country um posing as a woman pregnant at 34 weeks um to see if they would give us an abortion um and of course we knew that late term abortion exists but what i heard on the other side of the phone was horrifying i was told that not only do they do late term abortions but that they do them all the time and i listened to the abortionist um on the phone talk about how he would inject the baby's heart with digoxin um inducing cardiac arrest um and then uh deliver a dead child one of one of the abortion facilities actually offered to cremate the baby after they had just violently killed them because i guess treat the child with some sort of dignity after you've treated them like their trash um and so we posted that footage we recorded these phone calls and posted online and they got over 100 million views which is great and thank god influenced the presidential election and so thankfully kamala harris is not in the white house right now um which is fantastic because no she i mean she was the most pro-abortion candidate we've ever seen she she's supported no restrictions but no we're still at it even today our students nationwide are constantly um sidewalk counseling outside plan parent abortion facilities offering resources to these women considering abortion um and praying against these these evil facilities that they'll finally be shut down yeah i can't see any defense logically to eight months pregnancy i mean that is mind-blowing they have a heartbeat right yep yeah absolutely i mean heartbeat is 21 days after after conception and so um viability is at about 21 weeks right now and so there are fully viable babies that are that are being aborted in this country at least 10 thousand late term abortions happen every single year um just in the united states um and so i mean that is that's that's a mass slaughter and and and no you're right a majority of americans oppose late term abortion and yet we're voting for politicians that have no restrictions on abortion whatsoever and so we really have to expose that for people yeah what about fertility clinics have you looked into those yeah are you are you talking about like the IVF industry yeah yeah so a lot of people don't know this i have a lot of pro-lifers that um love the IVF industry and think that it's a great alternative because obviously the pro-life movement wants more babies um or a population is rapidly declining however what people don't know is that the IVF industry is not pro-life at all the IVF industry actually is killing more pre-born babies than Planned Parenthood is and so um because life begins a conception that's a biological fact and so these humans in embryonic form um they are being frozen and discarded as if if they are not wanted anymore and they're also practicing eugenics on these little humans in embryonic form if a if a baby isn't the certain gender that they want or has a certain um abnormality they will discard at those human beings as if they're worthless and so it's it's not pro-life at all and so we have huge issues with this IVF industry they're commodifying human life and so that's something absolutely students for life that we call out as well yeah i think you're gonna see that in the future genetic modification i think that's gonna be a thing yes it's it's a little scary seeing humans try and play god and i mean we already have seen this play out very poorly there was a case recently where these parents are suing um an IVF facility because the IVF facility implanted the wrong baby and to the mother and the baby was born a different race and they were like what in the world happened and i mean it's so tragic and i mean that's the reality when humans try to to commodify human life and play god with it that these things are going to happen and so it is i mean it's exposing the corruption of the IVF industry and how problematic it really is the IVF process is nuts to you i just learned about it how you have to get put on birth control first you got to get injected almost every day for a month yep yep and there i mean there's so many other um natural alternatives to IVF that people can can access and use because obviously we want everyone to be able to have a child if they're able to yeah and so i think a lot of times people will argue back and say well well lydia i have an IVF baby but i'm glad that they're here and i'm like i'm i'm glad they are too i love every child that's that's created um but i also love their siblings and and most cases the siblings of IVF babies were discarded or never made it to birth nine out of ten children made through IVF never make it to birth and are never born alive um and so that's that's the sad reality of it and so if we really are are saying that we value human life from conception then we have to stand against the IVF industry absolutely you're debating mainly with females right um well i do i do debates with all other people i think a common thing is oh men shouldn't be involved in abortion issue um no i think men should be involved in the abortion issue absolutely it takes a man and a woman to create a child um and so actually i heard so many just sad stories of men who lost their babies to abortion because they had no say they loved their child wanted to keep their child um and were um my body my choice yeah it's just it's just ridiculous because i think a lot of times i work with women who are considering abortion yeah which and um the most common reason i get for women considering abortion is oh the baby's father is not willing to be involved is not willing to support and i think that's what happens when we've told men oh stay out of it it's her body her choice and so men go okay i'll stay out of it and they're not supporting these women in pregnancy so i think actually men need to be more involved i think that's a big crisis i think people claim pro-lifers are all old white men um in reality we need more men desperately most pro-life organizations are led by women which is great um but now we need more men involved um we need men that are willing to defend life um to stand up for their children um and so uh i'm hopeful that we get some more men involved yeah well charlie was pretty outspoken on this topic right absolutely he he approached it a little more from like a religious angle but he was very outspoken yes yeah charlie was fantastic he uh just one year ago he was uh speaking alongside me at our national pro-life summit in dc we were all celebrating uh trump had just pardoned the pro-life political prisoners um i was i filmed a pro-life tiktok with him so he was an incredible pro-life hero um and changed so many minds in the culture on this issue because it is it's a religious issue but it's also a scientific issue yeah um and so i think he i loved how he approached it from that angle and uh we really did lose uh an incredible pro-life for real rest in peace um so you said there was prisoners for this what happened with that yeah so um the face act was um uh designed decades ago essentially to be weaponized against pro-lifers to peacefully protest abortion facilities um and so actually we saw it uh uh recently used against mr. lemon um and so uh it's funny now and the left is mad at it too and i'm like yes we've been advocating to repeal the face act for decades because it's weaponized against peaceful pro-lifers and been putting them in prison for just protesting abortion facilities and so thankfully trump pardoned those prisoners um uh just a year ago thankfully and so we have that's another thing that we're fighting for because it's it's ridiculous that pro-lifers are being targeted for just standing up for babies that are being killed inside these abortion facilities yeah i'm still trying to figure out how i feel about the don lemon stuff yeah it's it's hard because i mean at the end of the day we want to repeal the face act too um but also he i mean he wasn't he was infringing on religious liberty he had he uh invaded a church yeah that do you ever look at your bank account and feel like you're getting hit with fees for no reason like overdraft fees monthly fees ATM fees just for using your own money that's exactly why i want to put you on to 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only so i was honestly interested that wow it's actually being used against someone else for once this is crazy um but yeah so that's our that's our stance on that but it's i mean it's it's sad i mean it's it's no surprise we've been facing this sort of backlash for decades at students for life where um our we had a we had an event a few years ago back in 2020 where we um chalked black pre-born lives matter we got permission from the city um and dc to chalk that on the street because they had obviously done black lives matter and got permission to do that and our team uh one of our team members was arrested for doing that even though we had the permission to do that from the city um and so no it's it's it's something we've dealt with for a long time of this backlash and this um even violence against pro-lifers that they're trying to silence us and it's not working so well for them yeah it is crazy times we're in right um are there stats on like is this a worst problem in certain communities certain cultures certain parts of the world yeah absolutely i mean plan parenthood was founded by a racist market singer who spoke for the kkk said she wanted to exterminate the black community and disabled community um and so to this day plan parenthood abortion facilities are located primarily within black communities um there's footage um online of people um calling plan parrot asking if they can donate towards killing specifically black babies and plan parents says yes and accepts those nations so it is really sickening to see this and i mean there are a lot of black pro-life leaders that are pro-life because it is hurting their community because it's disproportionately black people that are getting abortions and so absolutely it's it's a huge issue um it's it's very sad it's it's horrifying and uh major cities like new york a black baby is more likely to be aborted than born no way which is crazy and yeah it's it's absolutely what yep so we at students for life do a lot of work i mean because obviously the left that supports abortion is typically also the side saying black lives matter and i'm like okay well then black pre-born lives should matter too and so we're engaging this conversation a lot of people have no idea that plan parent literally has its roots and racism and so that's something we're bringing to our campuses right now we're about to the launch a new speaking tour with another one of our team members faith um and the NFR more abortionists is going with her and they're going to be discussing this a lot along with our uh other team members as well because i mean it's something that we should be able to find common ground even if you're pro-choice you can admit that this is wrong what's happening that they're targeting the black community it's it's evil i did see someone talk about there were like tens of million if you add up all the abortions just tens of millions just in gen z alone i don't know if that's true absolutely yeah it's about 28 percent of my generation jen was murdered yep so 63 million abortions in the united states since um row in 1973 um so i mean that's so that means women are getting more than one then yeah yes a lot of women are getting more than one abortion absolutely yes it is a very common thing i think it's just this this uh culture that we sit women of oh you don't have children it's gonna ruin your life it's it's a complete first of all that is the most anti-feminist thing to say the side that claims to be feminist is like you can't do both you can't be a mom and be successful who are you to tell women that they can't do both and so i mean really we have to counter that narrative but no it is very sad we do see a lot of i mean even there are pro-life leaders that became pro-life abbey johnson had multiple abortions before leaving plant parenthood and becoming pro-life so it is a it's a huge issue but no i mean abortion is the leading cause of death 73 million children were aborted last year worldwide 73 million i mean that's it's not just a us then yeah no it's it's worldwide i mean the united states definitely is one of the leaders and highest abortion rates but there are other countries that it's it's so much worse and so we definitely are cheering on our pro-life partners in other countries because i mean it's one of the reasons why i became so passionate about it is realizing this is a huge problem abortion outranks every other cause of death and in the history of our world and so i mean it's something we have to prioritize yeah yeah i don't i also don't agree with the argument that you can't do both because i know a lot of fathers and mothers that recently had kids and they actually said it made them more successful yeah yeah because it gives them a new perspective on life yeah i mean it goes back to what i was saying earlier about this very selfish culture that teach people oh just do it makes you happy and that's how you can be successful no i mean the the best way to really find joy is by living for a child or for someone else for a family being able to be selfless i mean i've never had someone sure i'm i'm marrying now i hope to have kids in the future and just i mean i have so many friends that yes god marion had kids like charlie kerke always said get marion have kids um and it just so much more joy from that whereas i know a lot of my left-leaning people in my life who are very much it is lean into that culture of wait to have kids until you're 30s and it's just sad i mean it just leaves you empty at the end of the day to kind of just focus on whatever else the world tells you is important and you go home and you're like i'm just living for myself and is that really does that really make you happy i don't think so yeah wait until late 30s it's pretty late marion yes absolutely i agree i agree it's and there's more health risks yeah absolutely yeah even for guys i just learned it's it's not a higher chance yeah absolutely no it's um we need i mean our birth rate is declining um in the united states and it's i mean i see it's ridiculous i see these leftists celebrating it all the time like oh yeah i'm contributing to the declining birth rate and i'm like do you realize that that is a really bad problem like that's not a good thing i know elon muska's talked about it a lot on how it's a huge problem um i actually my mom for a while used to teach um chinese kids english virtually and she had to stop because china passed some law that in a weird way banned tutoring because they want parents to spend more money on having more kids instead of tutoring the ones that they already have which is crazy because their their birth rate is so low that they're just like literally trying anything they can to get families to have more kids because of their one child policy they're still dealing with these effects they don't have enough young people to take care of older people all these things it's a huge problem and yet the left is just celebrating that we're about to have that same problem here in america it's it's awful and i mean obviously abortion is a huge factor in that as well yeah didn't trump give some financial bonus yes yes he did we're very excited about that we're hopeful to work with the trump administration more in the pro-life movement but yes he is definitely working very hard to prioritize if you want that 10 grand guys yeah get get get to work get married and have kids yeah get married first probably because the hookup culture i'm not a fan of that oh yeah i mean that's what i mean that's what contributes to the the abortion industry i mean the hookup culture and the abortion industry love each other yeah it's great they're just i mean it's it's something that i mean that's why students for life primarily exists is because they're targeting young people as early as elementary school with these sex books of how to mass rate and how to have sex and how to you know sex is fun it's casual and i'm like that is a terrible thing to be teaching young children and they're building this hookup culture because they know that that is going to lead to unplanned pregnancies which leads to them having new clients and so no absolutely that's why students for life exist to reach young people with the counter message the message of truth that hey sex is not just this casual thing that we should be engaging and it's it's an important thing it's a valuable thing that should be within marriage and that if uh you are not prepared to be responsible for a child then maybe don't engage in actions that create children and i mean i feel like that should be common sense but a lot of times i say that on college campuses when i'm doing my q and a i'll tell them consent to sex is consent to pregnancy and they look at me and they're just horrified they go what and they they always say this they always go you really expect us not to have sex and i go yeah yes we're not just these wild animals like self-control does exist i'm not saying it's easy but you can have self-control and so i mean it's it's it's ridiculous how bad our hookup culture has gotten because i mean do you ever look at your bank account and feel like you're getting hit with fees for no reason like overdraft fees monthly fees atm fees just for using your own money that's exactly why i want to put you on to something better chime is changing the way people bank they're not like traditional banks that nicole and dimu with random charges chime gives you access to thousands of fee-free atms and here's where it gets interesting chime members can earn up to 1150 annual rewards completely fee-free if you set up direct deposit you unlock the most rewarding way to bank with chime they've also got 24 seven customer support with real humans and they've rated five stars by usa today for customer service get 5 cashback on your chime card in categories you actually use like gas or groceries you also get premium travel perks 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guys to understand like if you're not willing to have a child with this woman that you're hooking up with maybe don't be hooking up with them because that i mean we all understand basic biology that's how children yeah they're exposed to sex so early now like they're masturbating elementary school uh middle school i didn't learn about sexual high school oh really oh wow that's that's fresh freshman year that's interesting i think middle school is the appropriate yeah i think middle school is usually when i think most schools are teaching sex but i mean planned parenthood themselves will go into schools and teach their own which is i mean it's sickening i mean they're they're still doing that yeah there was a case i saw where they handed out the abc sex book in an elementary school of like the abc's of masturbating all this stuff i'm like what is wrong with you like it just how like that's just so corrupt and i mean i mean they're doing this with children's books i i remember a few years ago especially when target was under all this heat for all their lgbt stuff they were selling we went in there and found a bunch of very pro-abortion leaning books that they were offering for kids celebrating these uh the the what was it there's a pro-abortion group i think it's the pussy hats is what they're called the pink hat girls they're crazy pro-abortion people and just like a book celebrating them and all these other pro-abortion leaders and like wow are you kidding me no and i mean if you ask if you show any other kid like a young five-year-old if you show them a picture of an ultrasound and ask them what is this they're going to state's baby it's common sense even children know it's a child and so the abortion industry is trying to get in there and corrupt it as soon as they can corrupt these children to build a culture where they trust planned parenthood so that when they get non-planned pregnancy that they go straight to planned parenthood so that they can make a profit off of it yep makes sense yeah they're planning all these ideologies at such a young age now there's so many lgbt stuff and media gave stuff it's not right yep yep absolutely it's it's really sickening that i mean they're targeting young people because that's when we're most open to ideas i mean i myself was once pro-choice because i had no idea and i was misled by this culture and so we i mean that's why i think when i was when i got involved in the pro-life movement i knew i wanted to serve and and and abortion but i really love students for life because we're targeting the demographic that needs the truth the most and that's young people yeah how many campuses have you been kicked off of yeah campuses it depends on what you mean i kicked off um i've had to have my security escort me off before because the threats got so severe um but no i i from antifa or what was that from yeah from antifa there was a time where i protested Kamala Harris at a school in greensboro north kyan i can't remember the name of it um and we got just completely mobbed by uh by crazy abortion supporters and the police ended up having to escort us off not because we were being crazy because our lives were legitimately at risk yeah i mean we were getting mobbed people were screaming at us people had took taken our signs um and written uh f them kids on it and we're it was craziness so i mean this is something that we deal with all the time i mean i'll be honest with you especially after charlie charlie kirk was killed um he was a great partner of us and um seeing him die i mean christen hawkins and i um we i'll be honest we were initially going to cancel our speaking tours wow because i mean immediately those threats came rolling in oh you're next we're coming for you yeah we're speaking and our families of course were worried um and so we had we had decided to cancel and the next morning after his death i mean we're all just devastated and horrified because i mean we've we've gotten threats but seeing someone actually be killed doing the same thing that we do i think it just felt so much more real i bet yeah and so the next morning though we open our phones and yes we saw the messages of people threatening us but we saw even more messages of people saying i'm pro life because of you guys and charlie or i chose life for my baby my baby is alive because of the work of charlie because of the work that you guys are doing and people encouraging us to carry the torch on um to carry his torch on and so uh immediately we sat down and we're like all right we're gonna have to fundraise for a lot of extra security uh we had to get fitted for a bulletproof vest but we decided we weren't gonna back down and because we decided to stand faith belief for life and continue on charlie's mission i mean really our our speaking tours exploded at one of my stops um and and Cincinnati um the crowd had become so large of students that were there to engage in q and a with me to hear the truth that they ended up having to switch the venue i was speaking at because they had blocked the entire campus walkway with students that were just impact in there and so i mean the movement following his death it's been incredible so yes it's been very difficult and i just in november was protested again by antifa um who vandalized all the promotions and everything and and it was very difficult but at the same time yes there are protesters that show up yes there are people that show up and threaten me yes sometimes my security has to escort me off campus but even more so i'm having people show up and become pro-life and be excited to get involved i have women come up to me after my speeches and tears telling me that they had had an abortion years ago that they are now pro-life from after attending this event and that they want to defend other children and help other women not make the same mistake yeah and so i mean it's it's been hard how to be honest it's it's difficult it's not fun reading through all the threats and dealing with all that and having to bring security everywhere um but it's so worth it and so i mean i just seen god to faithfulness through that has been incredible that's beautiful yeah it must be really fulfilling knowing you directly created hundreds maybe thousands of lives in the world right yeah oh yeah it's i just last month i had another um mom that i had helped choose life she had been considering abortion last spring um and a friend of mine connected her to me and i got on the phone with her she had a planned parent abortion facility scheduled for i think the next day and i sat with her on the phone and i'm like hey we're gonna help you this this they are they don't care about you she had a chemical abortion scheduled i talked her through like hey this is what they don't tell you you might see your child in the toilet you're going to experience an extreme pain um and after supporting her and offering her help she chose life canceled her abortion um and just last month um her child was born and she sent me a picture and it was just the most i mean it makes everything worth it so now we're giving her a year supply worth of diapers because yes pro life is pro women we don't hate women like the abortion women says um and so she's just so happy and i got to throw a baby shower for her and it it's just incredible to really i mean yes i wake up every day and read death threats but every night i can sleep real well knowing that i'm saving babies um and so it's it's it's worth it everything is awesome that's so cool um let's end off with the epsstein files and the trafficking stuff yes craziness so crazy thing we found out the students for life is in the epsstein files not in a bad way oh really yeah they mentioned i don't know how but we made some we were in some sort of news during that time and so and some of the news briefings and them because someone sent it to me and they were like you guys are in the epsstein files and i was like what i have no connection and um yeah i mean there's a couple things talking about our work um and uh one of them talks about how planned parenthesis and so we posted on twitter um that wow breaking news the epsstein files prove the planned parenthesis racist congratulations wow no it is it's crazy the what's going on right now and i mean i hope for accountability from both the political parties that's for sure i have so many friends that are like vindicated right now because they were talking about pizza gate they were talking about all the shit that was in there the trafficking pdfs for five ten years ago yep and they were looked at as crazy and now it's all come to light yep yep i know it's i mean it's it's sickening seeing how much evil there is even in places you wouldn't expect from both political parties um and i mean especially as a pro-life movement we care very deeply about sex trafficking because the abortion industry and sex trafficking go hand in hand but sex traffickers bring their victims in to get abortions to continue to exploit them um and so i i've already heard stories of how there was abortion involved with epsstein as well and so yeah it's i mean it's it's sickening what's going on but i'm i'm glad it's all finally coming to light at least and hopefully they hold everyone accountable because it's disgusting what's going on they'll find a new thing to attack trump with no that the files are released it never ends it really doesn't he does everything it's so crazy though because he does everything he said he was gonna do and there's still like something else to go on for always always always like i just i'm just being objective like i'm not even like a huge trump bag but like he's doing what he said he was gonna do yep absolutely no i mean for the for the record trump has done some things that we sometimes disagree with sometimes we're like hey buddy you gotta be a little more alive um but no he he um has done a lot of great things for the for the moment he helped overturn row was that was a huge one i was crying tears of joy at the spring court the day it happened wow i reminisce that day all the time um but no i i think it's ridiculous they i mean they're they're just trying to find anything they don't actually care about finding out the truth they're just trying to make up lies to attack um the right with attack trump with to attack the pro-life movement with it no one's no one's falling for it anymore absolutely well uh how could people donate support and keep up with you yeah if you want to get involved with us at students for life whether you're a student or not to go to pearllifejenn.org to get involved with us and my social media is lydia taylor davis um and i serve as the spokesperson for students for life awesome check them out guys peace thanks for watching to the end guys please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree if you disagree i'd love to hear i read every single comment means a 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