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From Reality TV Fame to Real Healing & Self-Discovery: Kelly Chase’s Journey to Self-Worth | Podcast

51 min
Jan 29, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Kelly Chase, Netflix's Love is Blind star turned entrepreneur, shares her journey from rejection and burnout to building a coaching business centered on self-worth, money mindset, and spiritual alignment. The episode explores how vulnerability, somatic practices, and daily routines transformed her life and now help women overcome self-abandonment and limiting beliefs around wealth.

Insights
  • Rejection wounds from childhood create subconscious patterns where self-worth becomes conditional on achievement and external validation, requiring intentional reprogramming through somatic work and inner child healing
  • Women entrepreneurs struggle with pricing their services and asking for money due to cultural programming that equates wealth with greed; reframing money as a tool for good and divine abundance shifts this belief system
  • Burnout often signals self-abandonment rather than overwork; the solution involves saying no to misaligned opportunities and 'crowding out' old patterns with new aligned actions rather than forcing removal
  • Daily spiritual and mindfulness routines (breathwork, journaling, visualization, movement) are foundational for maintaining nervous system regulation and embodied decision-making, though consistency matters more than perfection
  • Authenticity and vulnerability in personal branding resonate more powerfully with audiences than polished marketing; sharing struggles and transformation journeys builds deeper connection and trust than projecting perfection
Trends
Shift from organized religion to personalized spirituality: coaches and influencers increasingly blend 'universe' language with explicit God/faith references, reflecting broader spiritual eclecticism among millennial/Gen Z audiencesMoney mindset coaching emerging as core business model for female entrepreneurs targeting women; combines financial literacy with trauma-informed psychology and spiritual frameworksSomatic therapy and breathwork gaining mainstream adoption in personal development; moving beyond meditation into body-based nervous system regulation as foundational healing practiceVulnerability-driven personal branding outperforming traditional polished marketing; audiences prefer authentic struggle narratives and transformation stories over aspirational perfectionFaith-based entrepreneurship gaining traction; spiritual entrepreneurs explicitly connecting divine purpose to financial abundance and business success rather than separating spirituality from commerceRejection sensitivity and childhood relational wounds recognized as root cause of adult patterns in pricing, boundaries, and self-advocacy; trauma-informed coaching addressing systemic underpricing by womenVisualization and law of attraction practices moving from niche self-help into mainstream business coaching; framed through neuroscience (subconscious doesn't distinguish real from imagined) for credibility
Topics
Self-worth and pricing psychology for female entrepreneursMoney mindset reprogramming and abundance beliefsSomatic therapy and breathwork for nervous system healingChildhood rejection wounds and adult relationship patternsVulnerability-driven personal branding and authenticityBurnout as symptom of self-abandonmentDaily spiritual routines and morning practicesVisualization and manifestation techniquesInner child healing and trauma recoveryFaith-based entrepreneurship and divine purposeBoundary-setting and saying no to misaligned opportunitiesGratitude as foundation for life transformationReality TV fame and off-camera personal growthWomen's financial independence and wealth creationSpiritual eclecticism vs. organized religion
Companies
Netflix
Kelly Chase appeared as cast member on Netflix's Love is Blind Season 1, which launched her platform and public recog...
People
Kelly Chase
Entrepreneur, podcast host, speaker, and Love is Blind cast member sharing her journey from rejection and burnout to ...
Marci Hopkins
Host of Wake Up with Marci podcast; author of Wake Up, You're Not Broken; conducts interview and shares parallel expe...
Abraham Hicks
Law of attraction teacher whose visualization and manifestation teachings Kelly credits as foundational to her person...
Hal Elrod
Author of The Miracle Morning; Kelly credits his SAVERS concept (journaling, affirmations, visualization) as key prac...
Napoleon Hill
Personal development author whose work Kelly consumed via YouTube videos and podcasts during her healing journey and ...
Joe Dispenza
Meditation and visualization teacher whose work Kelly references as part of broader personal development ecosystem th...
Quotes
"You must go within to do the healing and within is where you find the happiness and the connection to yourself and your higher power and your purpose."
Marci HopkinsOpening segment
"God or your higher power, whomever, whatever you believe in, he didn't create you to be poor and broke and unhappy and unhealthy and live a miserable life. So you have to believe that you are meant to be happy, healthy, and wealthy in this lifetime."
Kelly ChaseMoney mindset discussion
"People are looking, especially the younger generation, are looking for authenticity. That's what connects them to you."
Marci HopkinsVulnerability discussion
"The most aligned version of you is already within you. So let her lead."
Marci HopkinsClosing segment
"I was saying yes to the wrong things for a very long time and it was a lot of self-abandonment and then I wonder why I'm so tired, why I'm so burnt out, why I'm so overwhelmed."
Kelly ChaseBurnout discussion
Full Transcript
I want really everyone to hear this is that you must go within to do the healing and within is where you find the happiness and the connection to yourself and your higher power and your purpose. What are the breakthroughs that women would experience through the work they would do with you? When people say you know like life isn't always rainbows and butterflies right like I feel that in a sense of I don't believe that story. People are looking, especially the younger generation, are looking for authenticity. That's what connects them to you. I cried like I just watched someone die in front of me. It was so profound. That helped me understand like somatic practices and somatic therapy. This is Kelly Chase, entrepreneur, social influencer, podcast host, speaker, and reality TV star best known for her role as a cast member on Netflix's breakout hit Love is Blind Season 1. With over 350,000 followers across social media, Kelly uses her voice and platform to inspire people to chase life and fully embrace where they are in their journey. We as women struggle with knowing our worth and asking for money. We just give and give and give. So how are you helping others to start to change that idea? God or your higher power, whoever, whatever you believe in, he didn't create you to be poor and broke and unhappy and unhealthy and live a miserable life. So you have to believe that you are meant to be happy, healthy, and wealthy in this lifetime. Do you feel that a daily routine is a must? The most aligned version of you is already within you. So let her lead. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Wake Up With Marci. I am so grateful you are here, whether you are watching or you are listening. I'm your host, Marci Hopkins, and this is where we hold space for real conversations, radical healing, and waking up to your worth. Today's guest is someone you may recognize from the Netflix show Love is Blind. But what I admire about her most is she isn't just someone that was on screen and she's done. It's the transformation she owned off camera. Kelly Chase is an entrepreneur, podcast host and a speaker whose work centers around self-worth, vulnerability and energetic alignment. With a community of over 350,000 people across platforms, she uses her voice to help women rise from burnout, self-abandonment, and limiting beliefs into deep self-love and purpose. So thank you, Kelly, so much for being on Wake Up With Marci. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here. I'm so excited, too. Great. Thank you. Listen, I know you had a whole life before love is blind. And what would you say you learned from growing up about your relationship patterns? How did you value yourself in relationships? Like, did you know your worth in a relationship? Having the awareness that I do now? Probably not. um I mean I remember at you know like third grade right like I had a crush on a boy and all of a sudden I hear that he gave a little bracelet to another girl and I was like wait a minute like I thought we had something going on yeah so it was kind of like my what I can remember as like my first boy rejection. And I was eight years old. Granted, when I was in preschool, I had a mean girl situation. This little girl just said I could not play with her and the other girls. And there was another girl, I think that was kind of like an outcast. And so her and I played together. That was fine, you know, but, you know, after a lot of the work that I've done, I've just recognized like, well, this like rejection wound has really played a significant role. And another thing that came to, you know, awareness for me was, you know, I do have a sister and a former coach had asked me, you know, were you guys ever competing for your parents' attention or love or whatever? And I was like, no, I don't really remember that. But I do remember doing things and, you know, being seen. And so like, oh, when I do this, I am applauded for it. when I do this, I'm more celebrated, that kind of thing, which I'm sure my parents celebrated me any moment, but those are the things that stood out, right? And so I feel like over time, my subconscious just created the story that when I do something, I'm more worthy. Yeah. And I love that, that your subconscious created the story. So we live in these stories, but they're really not our stories. They're these made up stories that we keep holding on to. And they're not usually good stories. We have to learn how to transform and create a new story for ourselves. But what's interesting, you say that you had this pattern of rejection, right? And you, these wounds from that, but let's now fast forward to love is blind. 2018 and you go through this God intense eight weeks, right? And like, you're just supposed to fall in love and, and you're at the altar and you say, no. So you're the actual, the one who rejected the person you were saying yes to. So what, what was going through your mind? Like, how did you find that strength and knowing that this isn't what I want to do? Yeah. Well, the honest truth behind that was that he also said no. And so they didn't they didn't show that part. So which was great. Thank you. Reality TV. But, you know, he and I have had conversations leading up to the altar and, you know, maybe there would have been an opportunity for us to date. Um, but at the end, and we talked about that, like, Hey, like we don't want to get married this way. Like, I think this was, I think we both went into that experience. Like, this is cool. Like, yeah, maybe like, I don't know. I feel like I was in a different point in my life where I was on this whole like self love journey. And I was just kind of saying yes to incredible opportunities. And I was like, sure, like, let's do it. And I don't know exactly like what his intentions were behind anything. but I feel like we got in it and we were like, okay, now we're engaged. And, but this is actually what we want to be doing. Like, I'm not really sure. So we discussed having a relationship afterwards and dating. And so I thought that that's what we were doing. And the last day of filming, he was just like, I can't, I can't do that. Like, I think we need to just get back to our like normal lives, go our separate ways for a little while. and I think he was just you know in hindsight I was although I was devastated in the moment in hindsight I was like he was just very aware like he could not show up for me as a in a relationship at that point and uh I just remember him kind of saying you know I'm I'm over all of this and unfortunately you are a part of all of this and so so yeah it actually was a rejection so it's dumb um it hurt especially because I was in I mean we got to know each other in such in like short time frame that we had such vulnerable conversations I mean we all talked about very vulnerable topics and you know and even off camera I mean I think him and I had a lot of just vulnerable moments and so for it to all be over in a matter of a second just you know it was wild it was almost like i couldn't like i mean obviously i had to grieve but it was interesting it came all back when the show aired i was like re-grieving of course throwing back at you and it's living inside of you you're feeling that energy of it so after that happened for you you went through a period of depression what a lot of us do, right? I mean, depression right now, mental health's all time high. And, and a lot of us go through these low moments and it's how we get through them. It really matters. So what did you do for yourself to first like recognize that this was happening and then making the first step to help yourself? Yeah. Um, you know, it's interesting. So, you know, to expand on the depression, you know, the rejection, I felt like just everything had blown up. I lost a job during that time. So I had no money. I had no boyfriend. I had nothing. Like, I just felt really lost. Like everything had been taken from me. And I remember being on a walk one day with a guy friend of mine from that I grew up with. And the words, I think I'm depressed came out of my mouth and I was like and I stopped walking and I just I mean I remember this to say it was so long ago but I was just like I've never said that before but I feel like that's what it is like there's something like and I used to teach or you know exercise classes like I used to be a trainer I used to work out all the time I mean I do now again but at the time and I was just you know I'd sleep in a little bit longer than I used to I mean I was very regimented like 5 a.m 6 a.m girl would get up, start her day, even if I didn't have a job to go to, you know? Yeah. I started sleeping a little bit more and then I would, I would leave my house, but I would just go for walks. Like I just had no motivation to like go to a workout class or even do a strength training, even lift weights in my house. But that was something that started to help me was those walks just around the neighborhood and just slow, not fast, just poking along down the road. And it was so good for my nervous system. I mean, again, sometimes we do things, we don't know what the value and like what, what impact they're creating. And I don't think I did at the time. I was just like, I just can't do anything else. Like I'm tired. I'm sad. I don't know what's, what my purpose is right now. Kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. And it just shows you the power of movement and being in nature, right? So that you were giving yourself that gift. So what did you do? Right. So we have this programming. We have these traumatic things, these stories that we're in. We've lost everything. We feel like there's no moving forward. And now you're slowly starting to create the change for yourself. But what really helped you to start breaking those patterns and begin to choose to choose yourself again? yeah I was pouring so much love into myself I mean whether it was from the walking I reconnected with the book the miracle morning by hell all rod and started practicing his like lifesavers concept the journaling the affirmations the visualizations I would listen to whether it was podcasts usually it was like youtube videos on visualizations or like Napoleon Hill or Abraham Hicks and I was just I was literally yeah I was brainwashing yeah brainwashing myself into like happiness again. But it really was like, I felt better because I felt empowered by their words. And obviously I was having just like just different mindset shifts and being able to see things with different perspective Again I had lost a job So I went back into corporate America and I felt you know at first I felt very embarrassed by that Cause I you know year and a half prior to I was like Oh I going off on my and I going to be this entrepreneur and then hit the fan you know it was a lot but I went back into corporate. So it gave me a bit of structure. I did not love the job, but I'm grateful for it. Let's put it that way, you know, and it having a little bit of structure and stability and being around people, having to go into an office, um, it helped significantly. And granted, I was working with coaches or my coach, Aaron, pretty much the whole time I was introduced at the September of 2019. So about a year after we filmed the show, I was working with my coach and she was getting like breathwork facilitator, you know, certified. Yeah. And so she was like, I need to get credits for this. Like, can I do a host a free session for you? I was like, sure. I had never felt something so intense in my life. I mean, I cried like I just watched someone die in front of me. It was so profound. That helped me understand like somatic practices and somatic therapy. So I have since done a handful of breath work because I know the power of them. And it's funny, I went to a retreat once a couple of years ago. And I know that when you are doing the breath work and you do it in a faster way, you can drop into your body, like out of your head and into your body a lot quicker. And I probably should have prefaced that to the woman that was there to say like, hey, I know what I'm doing. Just like, let me be. I think she thought I was like hyperventilating. So she came in. I'm trying to get you out of it. No, I'm trying to go deep. I want to heal my stuff. Yeah. But it's been, yeah, I think I'm constantly doing, you know, personal development. and granted I have also recognized sometimes where I get stuck in the personal development loop too where I'm kind of like I've recognized you know it's like I recognize like I'm chasing something still even in the personal development space um so although it's making me feel better I get stuck in it versus being like okay you already know so much now go create with it. Go do something. I get that. I feel the same way. I feel that, you know, I'm, even when I'm listening to, well, I love the YouTube videos and guys get out there and start listening to the YouTube videos. They're free. They're free. So much magical work that helps you through this, this grounding and breath work and visualization and meditation to help you through whatever it you're going through, right? And I did the same. And like, Abraham Hicks, like she came in early on my healing journey. And that was really powerful. And, you know, Joe Dispenza, you know, there's just so many great healers out there that are sharing so much. But, you know, one of the things that you touched on, and I want really everyone to hear this, is that you must go within to do the healing and within is where you find the happiness and the connection to yourself and your higher power and your purpose. And so often we go outside of ourselves to find the validation. And we think that somebody else or some circumstance is going to make us happy. And it's really within ourselves. Everybody that's gone through this talks about it, going within the gratitude, the breath work, the somatic work, whatever it is. So it works. It works. And that inner child healing, I had to do the same and it's powerful, but it's life changing. It's life changing. So let's talk about this. So you went into this corporate job. What was your relationship for yourself with money at that time? It wasn't great. You know, it was interesting because the, so after we got done filming, love is buying I hired a business and mindset coach because I was like I've taken two months off from doing my health coaching at the time like I want to go all in I have to like I have no other choice like I have to go all in on my business stuff right now and so she started teaching a lot of the like energetics of money during our sessions because obviously she was helping me like price my offers and that kind of thing and not devalue myself and anyway so that was I love money mindset now like it is like that is what I teach like I freaking love it but But so a handful of months later, that's when I went back into corporate. And it was almost like conflicting, I guess, because I'm like, I'm having these new beliefs. But now I'm like working this job and I'm staying in this job because it's providing for me. But I know that there's 10,000 other jobs out there that can provide me a lot more money right now. And I was trying to after I got done working with that coach, I was like, I want to do what you just did. Like, and so I started to pivot my business in 2019 also from like the health coaching into more of the mindset space. And then the like engagement algorithm, like everything was bothering me too. Cause I'm like, this stuff is so powerful. Like why, why doesn't the world get it? Like, why are they confused? And so it's like, I wasn't able to like sign up clients because it was just, and then I felt like I was the problem, you know, in a sense, I wasn't truly embodied in the work. Right. So yeah, yeah, it was, yeah, I just felt very chaotic for me, but it was interesting. Like when the show aired a year later, I was still at that corporate job. And this is where in hindsight, I really wish that I had been super convicted with my money stories at the time because, or my new money beliefs, because I held onto that job when the show aired, I'm launching programs and courses. Cause I'm like, wow, I have this newfound following. Like I can do like all these like self-love courses and work one-on-one with people. And also now I am like a creator for brands. So I felt like I had three full-time jobs. Yes. In addition to the fourth full-time job, which is working on yourself. Right, right. Can't forget that one. Yeah, exactly. And I remember, I mean, it was like maybe two months in after the show aired and I was just so depleted. I was so tired and exhausted and like burning the candle at both ends. and you know the world shut down COVID happened too so now we're like so that was affecting my mental health as well but I kept saying to my parents like I need to like I can't do this anymore and so my mom suggested well why don't you like stop coaching for a little while and just like work the brand deals and then work your nine to five and I was like that's like telling you to like quit what you're passionate about like I can't like if I'm gonna do anything I'm gonna quit my stable nine to five job. But, but there was fear. Were you looking for the permission to do that? I probably was. Yeah. Yeah, I probably was. And so, I mean, I stuck with it for a year. It was a year to the day of our first episode airing. I woke up Saturday, Sunday, two panic attacks. I've never had them. I had never had them. I have never had them since. but I broke I mean I completely broke and I I went home and I lived with my parents for a week because I was like I've never felt this like I was I was just scared you know I was like I don't know what's going on with my body um and as soon as my dad goes okay like are you ready to go back to work like you know drive you back into Atlanta and I was like no I'm not I don't want to go back there I did for like another week and a half I called my manager crying and I was like I'm so sorry I can't do this anymore I'm right I'm done she was like do you want to do like two weeks notice or do you are you like done today and I was like there was still that little bit of fear and so I'm like sure because I'm like I don't have like I didn't I think I'd taken a break from like my coaching so I didn't have any kind of money coming in and the brand deals had slowed down because it had been a year and I was like oh my gosh so I committed to the two weeks but it was probably like four days in and I like wrote her and I was like no I'm done I don't care god will show up i have no idea and show up it once you took that leap what happened i cried for two weeks every day um because i hadn't i didn't have time to feel my feelings for a year um it was so much from the show from grieving like just it was a lot so yeah i sat on my couch and cried for two weeks um i did put like i said a hold on my coaching for a little while and i remember a friend of mine when the show after the show aired and the brand deal started coming in she had reached out to me and was like hey Kyle just remember taxes like they're not going to tax you on this brand deal she goes so like save 30 keep it in a little thing over there and then because you're going to need to pay the taxes back and I was like oh yeah totally so lo and behold tax season comes around this was like a month later and I didn't owe anything and I got a big tax return actually and so yeah so i was like x amount of money that i wound up saving was able to like float me for a little while but i was like that was god that was god so good god is so good yeah yeah so trust around money after that i was like you know what you just if you just trust but i mean not many people can have that faith and that trust like that. But it takes, but sadly, it takes a breaking moment for us to get like that, you know, versus. We do, we try to help others. Like I, listen, I've had my breaking points, my story transformed my life. And a lot of times we try to help people to create the change before the break happens. But sometimes that's, that is the path that you have to go through that to have the life lessons, right? So I feel like, you know, listen, I went through the trauma, the abuse, the addiction, the recovery and changing my life. And today, I am actually grateful for those things, because I'm doing the work I'm doing because of my life experiences, what I learned through them. But now we can help others maybe. And I know that there's, There are those out there that don't have to have the rock bottom and they can create a change through the lessons that we now teach. So that's the beauty of it. You are helping people, women, primarily financially now and shift their mindset. And honestly, like I still, even as much as I've done, I still struggle with that. And there's, you know, all the networking groups I'm in, we as women struggle with knowing our worth and asking for money. Yeah. We just live and give and give. So how are you helping others to start to change that idea? Like, I know it's our upbringing, our programming, we got to reprogram. There's a lot of work to it. Yeah. But what do you say to just like start that journey? I would say the number one thing and my I would probably only say this now because I like spirituality and my faith has became a lot stronger. God or your higher power, whomever, whatever you believe in really doesn't. He didn't create you to be poor and broke and unhappy and unhealthy and live a miserable life. so you have to believe that you are meant to be happy healthy and wealthy in this lifetime and you have to trust and surrender to that you know that is i think that's my biggest thing right now is just like leaning into the faith of everything and it's you know really fascinating so my journey when even the coaches that i worked with were very they would kind of use you know universe terminology a lot yeah yeah and or simultaneously like god universe right and over the last year and a half i've witnessed them on social media have like transformations and using god more we are starting to use god more yeah yeah and it's been a really like it's just been such an interesting observation and then my journey has shifted to like i bought a bible last March and I never bought a Bible I never had a Bible I probably read some verses I had a Bible before But I just had a I had an interesting relationship with religion in the past as well So you know it just like debunking so many things And it just the awareness I mean I guess another thing you know just having the awareness having journal prompts for these women to be like okay like what are your stories around success How did success show up in your life how did money show up in your life? What are you hearing about money? What did you see about money? Some of it, you know, that was a question that was asked to me when I first started this work. And what did you see? And I'm associating like rich with bad people in a sense, because like we see Cruella DeVille on 101 Dalmatians and she's in her furs and she's so fancy, but she's not a nice person. Right. That was a part of a story that I held. Yeah. And although I've seen and it it was interesting because a, like a college friend of mine, when we were in college, I knew she came from money, but I was almost like intimidated to meet her parents and her parents came to like, you know, help us set up our dorm or something and most lovely people. And I remember because obviously I'm sharing this story. Like I remember having this internal thought, Oh wow. But they're so nice. Yeah. Like if rich people are just like rude and greedy and I just had a lot of stories around that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's been interesting. And then now I connect with, you know, people like yourself and so many other very good people. And the story is good. People do good things with money. And I love that. Yeah, it really is. I was raised by my grandmother, my grandparents, really. I was about six to 12. And during those formative years, it was my grandmother was raised in the depression. So it's like, even though we did live in a nice home for that time, right? Right. Like it was just, you had to, to shop at the sale racks, you know, and you had to watch your money all the time and budget for everything. And so I, I just, even today, I don't have to shop at the sale rack, but I don't know, like that's immediately where I go because in my mind, that's the only place that I can shop. Right. And it's not the only place I shop. You know, I, I, I am breaking away from that, but just knowing that I am worthy and I can, if I can afford it, I I'm worth having the things that I want. Right. Right. And I'm not just buying myself stuff. I give back and do a lot of things. And I, and that's the thing that gives me the most pleasure is to be able to help others. But it is changing that idea in our heads. But it's also like the story we tell ourselves because it's so funny. I mean, I think back to when I was little and I used to always say, I'm going to be rich. Mom, I'm going to buy you a new car. You know, like I tell my aunts when I get rich, I'm going to give you a hundred dollars. you know like yeah I just I don't know like if it in my because what we put out in the universe we attract maybe right so and even though I went through the hard times but you know life has given me a beautiful life and and and it's just I kind of think back to well I say I don't know my worth but then do I know my worth and like there's just constant battle yeah oh yeah yeah I mean that is a question that I, you know, would love to ask someone who I feel is like super embodied. Like, do you ever have a wavering going on? Cause we're still human. Like this is a human experience, right? Like, because I do that too. Like, although I've had, I've done a lot of work, I still get to a point. And I remember even hearing some coaches saying like at every, it is almost like that onion, you know, that you're pulling back. It's like at every level, there's another layer of fear and, or a story that you told yourself, but I do the same thing. it's so funny like if you were if you're like kelly you have you know five thousand dollars to spend yeah i would probably easily spend that money on like investing in like a coach or like someone who's going to elevate me my life my career versus i would feel resistance if you were like well you have to go spend that on like a purse i'd be like that's crazy I'm the same way. Kelly, like you're saying, so many people out there, and I feel like I have to even do it with my husband, like it's almost more accepted to buy the purse than invest the money in yourself. 100%. It is. Mind-blowing to me now. Yeah. And I used to have the resistance to it also, but now I feel like I'm always signing up for something. I'm like, grow, grow, grow. I want to grow. I mean, same. and I've also learned to well I'm learning still I guess but yeah learning to not share my investments with other people because that don't have the same mindset as I do ah that's so true they're gonna like bring the negativity to it right yeah yeah like I did I made a very hefty investment you know eight months ago and I just heard it like well are you making money in return like at some point is it coming right now maybe not but it will you know kelly i i say the same thing i say the same thing all the time it's coming i mean is it tomorrow no probably not but it is coming and i have no doubt about it like the the big the big things are coming and you just you see them slowly in motion right like i always talk about you plant the seed you don't see what's happening under the surface right and then all of a sudden there's a sprout then you have a huge beautiful tree yeah so you just gotta it just takes time and going back to your question about wavering right i a few days ago i don't know about you kelly but i'll question like i don't know am i doing everything i can do i don't know is it too much i don't know can i keep going it's gonna happen like i'm just quitting everything all the time all right and then i'm like okay thankfully today i can understand i can look at it and say okay marcy you're not being realistic right you know have your pity party again something maybe didn't happen as fast as i wanted to or maybe somebody said something that made me start to doubt myself totally so i felt the feelings i prayed i went to church i went and and prayed. And I did the things, the things that we are learning to get ourselves back on track and taking action. Because I had to tell you, Kelly, there would have been a day that I would crack that bottle of wine open and just lost myself in the wine and felt so sorry for myself. Like that's how I would have handled it. And cause that's how I knew to cope. But like you said, we're learning these things and, And also going back to God. And first of all, God was in our lives. And then we're told to be uncomfortable with God. And then now I feel like learning spirituality is something very different than organized religion. I just think of the divine as this energetic love. And we're just all connected. And like you say, like go within. You're connecting. So it's not like just going to church and doing your hour. Like that's just exactly that's not the same. And then when we're young, we're taught like not maybe so much anymore, but we used to be taught to be afraid of the big God in the sky that we're going to be damned for for our sins. Right. Absolutely. There's a very, very big shift when you start doing this work. So let's just take one second. I'm going to take a little break. And when we come back, we're going to continue this incredible conversation with Kelly Chase. Are you in the first 30 days of sobriety or wondering if now is your time to start? Hi, I'm Marcy Hopkins and I wrote Wake Up, You're Not Broken just for you. It's a real raw guide to those first 30 days. What no one tells you, what you will feel and how to keep going. This isn't about perfection. It's about progress. order your copy now on Amazon remember you're not alone you're not broken you're waking up now we're back I'm so excited to continue this conversation with you Kelly so we were talking about before we went to break like the shifting in our mindsets and connecting to God and our higher powers and and also like these these practices and the tools to rebuild. So what what do you do daily? Do you feel that a daily routine is a must? Yes and no. I say no, because there are times when I have stepped away from it at times. But the majority of my answer is yes. Like, I think, you know, when, you know, you're working out, you're very committed to working out. And then you like, quote unquote, you take a day off. And it's like, okay, that's okay. Give yourself grace. Don't guilt or shame yourself. Cool. Yeah. Get back into it. Right. It's same thing. Like, and granted, exercise movement is a part of that routine for me. It does help me feel more connected. But I'm sure that there have been times when I've like taken like a week and a half off from doing those things. How did you feel on the end of that though? Well, I hated it. I was like, I feel really chaotic. My like, I have like almost like brain fog. Like I just, I don't feel empowered. I don't feel motivated. Like I have not been showing up as my best self in any area of my life. So yeah. Yes. The daily rejection is very important. Yeah. I agree. I really, I try and like, like this morning, I didn't take my time to, to meditate and connect. So I'm going to walk my dogs in a little bit and I'm going to do it then, you know? So it's okay. I mean, they do say the best time to reprogram the brain is right when you wake up, right? Because that's when your subconscious is most open to the change. But my God, I've been doing this 10 years. I can do a little bit later in the day now. I probably have a bit of a flexible, like, cause again, I used to like do the miracle morning concepts like religiously. religiously and but then I started okay if I didn't do all six of them in a day maybe I did a couple of them on a different day or maybe I would do some at night and some in the morning you know that kind of thing so but I mean I was definitely religiously doing yeah six every day but it made me feel good and I still I mean I read a little bit of my like little daily stoic this morning I did my workout went for my walk connected with God we connected with major had my own thoughts going on. We'll see my Napoleon Hill. I mean, I definitely have a, a routine of some sort. Yeah. And I think that that's important. And finding that the things like whatever you do, Kelly, or whatever I do, doesn't mean that it's going to work for someone else. There's a list of things you can do and finding those things that work for you, but it is about the action and the consistency that's going to create the change. Right. Yeah. So what about vulnerability, you know been a big part of your story and what do you think about vulnerability when it comes to self-discovery and and a deeper love for yourself yeah um yes I feel like I have always been quite vulnerable of a person granted like I started probably using social media as more of a platform when I launched my first coaching business in 2013 and at first it was like you know workouts and nutrition stuff but then I went through a bit of a journey I mean I had gained like 30 pounds and I made a post a very very vulnerable post and you know just being like I not out of it Like I am at my peak weight right now And I feel like I trying to coach people So there embarrassment in that regard. I'm like, you guys have all seen you've known me my entire life. I've never weighed over 110 pounds. Like I there was just like so much and the response and feedback from that post was so grand. It was so beautiful. You know, I have had very close friends want to, you know, keep me safe can protect me and sometimes when I'm sharing they're like oh maybe you don't need to like share all the things and I'm like maybe I don't but I did get two dms because I shared that story telling me how that story helped them feel less alone today so that's why I do what I do yeah not everybody is supposed to share all of their story but right there are those that that are leading the light. And with that, a leader shares their story fully and vulnerably and authentically. Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting, too. I mean, again, because I've been like in and out of corporate a few times and my coaching business has been like up and down at times, too. It's it's been interesting. You know, there are times when I'll like launch something on social media and I'll get the comments or a DM that's like, you know, you've been a little rocky. Like, why would we want to work with you in a sense? And it's like, you know, because I put, because I put that out there, you know, versus having such a solid and I'm like, well guys, you know what? You're here for fricking journey. I don't know what to tell you. Like those who see me, they believe in me, they find value in what I'm putting out there. That's who I'll work with. Like if you don't feel like that. Yes, absolutely. That person's not meant to work with you. And, and also, I mean, just think the work they need to do because they're sitting in judgment. And so I say more power to you. People respond more to our authenticity than they do not. With vulnerability, I feel like everyone, you know, although no, not everyone has to use vulnerability, but I feel like the more that you are, like if you're not really being your authentic self with people, you're really doing a disservice to people. Yeah. Yeah. And listen, it's just like people are looking, especially the younger generation are looking for authenticity. That's what connects them to you. And if you even think about any brands that are out there, they're not looking for the big fancy marketing campaign. They want authenticity. Right. And I mean, my God, you look at commercials and they're, they're using Instagram feeds. Yeah. It's great. Time has evolved. Thank God. Thank God. So let's talk about the coaching that you are doing right now. And what should women look for? Like, what are the breakthroughs that women would experience through the work they would do with you. Overcoming burnout is really self-abandonment. The shift of it's interesting, like how I can explain this. I'm when people say, you know, like life isn't always rainbows and butterflies. Right. Like I feel that in a sense of I don't believe that story and I want other women to feel like their life can have a lot of butterflies and rainbows in it and with the power of gratitude which we that is like the foundation of my work that I do you know it's like really turning every single thing like I mean my idea is like teaching women how to say no to the wrong things yes to the right things so that they attract what they're looking for that next level love that solar line wealth you know if they're want to create a business you know whatever the case may be there's so many of us that are rooted in all of these actions and behaviors and thought patterns that are misaligned with what we actually want and i was that person i was saying yes to the wrong things for a very long time and it was a lot of self-abandonment and then i wonder why i'm so tired why i'm so burnt out why i'm so overwhelmed so I want to help women just reprogram their thoughts get really clear on what their goals are what is a professional goal that you're looking to have what is a personal goal that you're looking to achieve what are five action steps that we can start doing today to get you closer to that that is actually an alignment do you have to maybe like let go of some things put other things on the back burner sure or remove them from your life completely yeah you do absolutely but it's not a lot of women are very scared of that what if I lose this what if you gain all of this on the other side what if you let go and you get all these things yeah what if you actually get what you want because you let go and I you know it's an interesting thing too like when I went through health coaching school we learned the phrase crowding out and so I would rather say instead of like okay you have to like remove this from your life and get rid of this and all that although that's what you're essentially doing maybe we crowd out with the more aligned actions versus you feeling like you have to lose something in order to make something else happen because when you start you're not gonna have the capacity for those other things so you're just kind of crowding them out yeah yeah I love that and I've learned that people come into your to your life for a season or a reason right and and yeah so just realizing that we don't have to stay with a person that's no longer making us feel good. Yeah. And maybe it was a bad situation, but it was a good lesson. And the other thing that you mentioned, and I love to talk about, I could talk about all day long is gratitude. It life changing. And if you listen to anyone that has changed their life, they are rooted in gratitude. Yeah, it is definitely a process. Because I didn't know, even though life looked really good around me, I didn't know how to be grateful for it. I mean, I lived in this victim mentality. And it was very, very hard. But you can change it. And once you change it, and you move into this place of gratitude oh right it's a beautiful life it really is like every every challenge that I've endured every like hardship heartache everything I am like okay yeah of course you look at the feels of it like we have to we don't like some you know suppress anything but also it's like wow okay what what can I learn from this what is the lesson in this what is that is actually such a gift that I can learn something from this, that maybe that convert, that tough conversation that I had with a friend, maybe their perspective, I need to look at that a little bit more, you know? And so it's just, it opens you up to hold space for various perspectives, um, which is something I love. I don't know. It's like the things that people get so irritated about. I just, I'm like, why? it's just I know why waste your energy on something you aren't even in control of like you can't control it do what you can control stay centered and like create a beautiful life for yourself like and really what can you control yourself how you respond that's it I mean my god and that is a hard lesson it's hard yeah it's a hard lesson it is but I mean my god my son is off on this journey of his own and very hard to let go, but I can't control it. I'm not going to sit and worry. I have to trust God and, and like, maybe this is the answer to his happiness, right? I can't, can't control it. I can control how I respond to it. So that's it. And I'm living with that and having the faith. Yeah. There you go. Exactly. Kelly, give us one way to day that we can implement in our life today, one way we can move forward. I want you to get clarity of what you're wanting. Really sit with yourself and be like, okay, maybe write out 10 different things, you know, but get summarized and be like, okay, what does all of that mean? You know, oftentimes I mean, what I was taught through my journey is again, that personal goal and a professional goal. What is it at the end of the day? What like, get really honest with yourself. what is one personal goal that you really want to achieve for me it's like I want a boyfriend I want to I'm 40 I want to show on the road but you know professionally maybe it's an income goal maybe it's writing a book maybe whatever that looks like for you and then you have to start thinking of the person as you already are you already have it so becoming her today yeah and then how that person is showing up? What are the actions she's taking? That is how you can start to really change things for yourself and stay consistent with it. Stay disciplined. Yeah. And I know it's hard guys to visualize or feel something like it's already happened, but it's really how you are. The universe doesn't know if it's real or not. Your body doesn't know if the memory is real or not. So you create memory and attract that to yourself. So thank you, Abraham Hicks. Yeah, it's so true. And you're right. It is a lot more difficult to visualize and get in the feeling of it and feel that emotion. But if you like, even if you went on like a journal rant and just wrote out everything as if it's in present tense, like I'm already this person. Like I have a number one New York Times bestselling book. like whatever that one yeah you did but whatever you're you who you really want to become start writing it out as if it's already happening and like read it out loud to yourself and like as you're as if you're like telling a story to someone and feel the emotion get into the motion I mean if you're listening to an audiobook what is it non-fiction fiction I always get those two confused but just like a story right like yes and you're listening and they're reading it very monotone of course you're not going to feel anything so you really get into the feeling of it and you're so right it's like our subconscious doesn't know the difference between the past present and future so it's going to pick it up but you know i have i'm sure many of us have the ability to do this but you know we like we can get emotionally attached to not so great things happening like you be like Amen. Like, Oh, like someone's going to pass away in a car accident or like not what, you know, like there's things and then it can make you cry almost. And you're like, that's, that's it right there. But like flip it. Okay. Let's not protect the negative out there. Like, let's just do the positive and exactly like how we want to feel when you're signing a book or you just made your first $10,000 in a month. Like, yeah, I'm doing it. I'm going to do it. And I can't thank you enough, Kelly, follow Kelly. I'm have all the information in the show notes. She is at Chase Life with Kelly. Look for chaselifewithkelly.com. Choose Life with Kelly. I love it. I love everything you're doing. Thank you. Thanks for having me. And everyone, if you're on your own journey of rebirth, especially if you're navigating early sobriety or emotional healing, please check out my new book, Wake Up, You're Not Broken, now available for pre-sale on Amazon. 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