Flashback Friday on the 1986 Masters

Now the shotgun starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here. And here we go. Alright, alright, alright. Gentlemen! Start your engine! Music Greetings and welcome to a Friday edition of the shotgun start. It is April 3rd. Andy, how we doing? Brendan! I'm doing fantastic. I gotta say, I feel like I missed the mark. I've remedied the situation. You know, important people in my life, I put calendar reminders for birthdays. But I don't always do this. There's like four people in my life that I have this setup for that like I wouldn't otherwise remember. Okay. The beautiful boy, the Silver Slovak turns 50. I'm going to do a calendar reminder for that, dude. Well, I've now said it. Oh, alright. April 2nd. The beautiful boy. You got Westie back there. I love it. I did, you know, I did help, but I couldn't help but notice. We're joined by Kevin VanValkenberg. Jump in there, Kevin. We're privileged to have you here. We're going to be doing a jumbo flashback. We're playing the role of foreign invader here in this podcast. All the Americans are going to have to crumple in my wake. We're going to do a big flashback on a sort of lesser known, lesser talked about Masters, 1986 on its 40th anniversary. But you're breaking out the BFB, the Sabo picture. Andy was reminding me the other day, you're talking to Bernhard Lawner, I believe is how you pronounce the G in there. On your Friday podcast. And Sabotini is in the background. I'm just like wondering, well, this very serious German fella, like, who am I talking to? And why is Sabo, like, is he a big Sabotini fan? Like, of course, he probably hasn't been up on the whole thing. That was all I could think about in some of the clips is what was Bernhard thinking as you were asking him questions. And Sabo is looking over his shoulder. I mean, I don't mean to put in here, but this is, this is, he's got to be scouting this competition. He's out there now. I think, I think Bernie is very aware that. The Rory has come to this champ's tour. He's already signed up for the PGA senior PGA, as it were, very exciting development here. Less exciting real quick before we get to this flashback, Tiger officially out of the Ryder Cup captaincy has told the PGA. He's not like, I think, you know, September 2027 is a long way away. Right. So like, I guess that is newsworthy. Did we expect him to play the Masters next week? No. Did we expect, you know, the short term stuff? No. But it's newsworthy in a way. I guess there was a deadline. So that opens the gates for who knows. Justin Leonard was on Golf Channel Stadium's case only because he was prompted to. Stu Sink got to bring Larry Nelson maybe back. Talk about four invaders, you know, intruders, lead the troops into Ireland. Who knows? There's a lot of caps. So Tiger officially declining in 2027. Kind of a sad deal. Tiger and Phil, I don't know if they would have been good captains. They quite frankly could have been disastrous captains. I don't know. Their deference that they would be good is a little misplaced. We don't know. Like Paul McGinley wasn't one of the greatest while time. Good captain. But it's just sad we're going to get like a pretty big era of Ryder Cup. A swath of Ryder Cups with no Tiger or Phil captaincy. Maybe one day, you know, maybe 20 or 30 years ago, you know, maybe 29. Who knows when that will happen. So he's out for that. The police videos are out. I like, I, I'm not going to click. I don't need to watch it. He's had so many of these sad moments. I'm not saying that makes me a Pollyanna or I don't think it exists. Or I think like we're being mean or it shouldn't be out there. Totally fine. I personally like one of those like, you know, I'm not going to watch a bad injury video. I'm not going to watch some like young television reporter absolutely bombs some stand up report from a baseball field. I just don't, I'm not going to get anything out of it. So see some of the pictures doesn't look good. Doesn't look pretty, probably another round of embarrassing videos and photos for Tiger, but that is out there. I don't know if there's any grand takeaway. He's going away to treatment. It sounds like out of the country for privacy concerns. That's the Tiger update. And thank God, you know, he's not going to play next week, you know, with each drip of video, police report, it just would have been a total circus. Not that it was within the realm. Yeah, I think this is the best thing for himself, obviously. And I'm very happy that he's doing this for himself and going on a lighter note. You know, and I don't want to breeze past this. I don't know if you guys have it more that you want to unpack here on a lighter note. Do you guys see the news that Memorial Park's adding a pond? I have that next. So that women who hate this tradition can jump into the pond following the win at the former Dina Shore that they've co-opted the celebration despite changing the name, moving locales. Now they're building a pond to uphold this tradition. Fundamentally, altering the golf course. Let's say you're an old guy and you play a regular like Wednesday morning game at Memorial Park. You don't carry the ball that far anymore, but this is your course. This is like, you love this. And now you got to deal with a fucking pond on an 18 that your ball is going to go into every other time. And it's just like you're absolutely enraged over the fact that this pond, this ridiculous thing just to have one tournament a year where they're going to jump in the pond for 30 seconds, you have to have a pond in front of your damn course. It's farcical. Let's just be honest with ourselves and it's a joke. If that is your signature identifying characteristic of your major that you jump in the water, A, that diminishes the golf in and of itself, or you just shouldn't have moved. You shouldn't have moved from where the pond was already pooled. It was a pool. Let's be real here. They could just put an above ground pool 60 yards back into the right behind the green. But this appears to be, well, the rendering is grotesque. It is grotesque. It looks terrible. It is terrible. It's a fundamental altering of the whole. Are they bringing in Tom Doak, the recent architect? Is he have to do like, in theory, couldn't they get Joe Schmo excavator from down the street in Houston? Like this isn't, presumably Tom Doak designed the whole he wanted to design it, not in a way that, you know, a bet these pond jumping traditions and hijinks. That's why he built the whole, not for that. Get whoever to do it. I was talking to Tom. He's excited that he gets to rework the 18th green because it wasn't his favorite green out there. Okay. Is he excited about the new water feature? I don't want to put him on the record. Maybe. We won't say. Who could say? He's excited about the green. Tom, what great ponds, what great ponds have you been inspired by in the past? I would push it up for the five greatest ponds. I was going to say, Devlin's Billabond. That's what, I mean, that's essentially what they're trying to do here. Let's just create something for them to jump in. Don't just count this social media cloud that you get every year for that one clip of a lady jumping into the water. That's basically it. That's it. I mean, just leave it where it was then in Mission Hills. God, what a farce. What a complete farce. It's a muni nonetheless. That's it. I also had Jonathan Kay follow up from his corn fairy tour to start. We know someone who played with them, made him aware of the podcast. I won't go into too many details. Just apparently he did the start for insurance reasons. There you go. You got his KFT start at 55 for insurance reasons. That's what we want. How does this competitive league? I was told he was angry, but a nice guy, which I guess can be co-exist. All right. That's our follow up. Let's get to a special. You want to jump in? Before we get there, what I've realized this week is that there's one person. You know, Santa Ray's a big night at college basketball. And I think there's a person on this podcast that actually wants Illinois to win more than I do. Who's that? PJ? Because of his anti-heraly stuff. PJ. I'm trying to get PJ some Illinois gear for the game. I am desperate. I need the Balkans to do one job. Just do your job. Finish the story. I like that you're giving me an opportunity to just put positive energy out there. It's going to be a great week next week. We need to start it off on the right foot. Try to stay positive. Balkans, please. I'm begging you. I might be getting to Augusta a little later if the Balkans pull it off. Balkans, I'm begging you. I might be changing my flight to Indianapolis instead of Atlanta. Might as well. PJ, it's not a bit with PJ. I brought it up not in a podcast setting in an internal call that I would just been talking to someone from Canada. And he was the most wound up I've seen. I was like, oh, he was shouting and angry. The boy does not like Yukon. He needs them to be stopped. Come hell or high water. Someone must stop them. Hopefully it could be the line I. It's the foreign intruders. The foreigners. This is what we'll learn here. They'd be referred to the Balkans in the 1986 Masters broadcast. Good luck to you. Should I get my wine out for this segment? No. No wine. No wine. Would that frustrate you? No, I wasn't. I was just popping them. I mean, he puts this fishbowl to his face in the middle of recording. I feel like I've recorded with Joseph before where like out of nowhere, the wine comes out. But Joseph, he's the one drinking it. Yeah. Like I remember, I think you were gone and I was recording with him and just out of nowhere. It was like 20 minutes into the pod. He's just drinking a glass of wine and I'm thinking in my head, where did this come from? Okay. So Saturday, you're not going. Confirmed. Final four, but Monday, perhaps, per chance. But we'll just leave you. You don't have to confirm. Lock yourself into anything. Yeah. I just can't get out out of my house on Saturday. The issue is I'm turning a long trip into a very long trip if I leave Friday. Yeah. Well, good luck to you on Saturday night and then come with me on Monday. Godspeed. Good luck. I feel like, yeah. I mean, we got to win a national championship. Best college basketball program without one. That's fair. That's fair. You've been to a boatload of final fours if you count up sort of the pre-war era or wherever. Not a lot lately. Yeah. All right. Well, good luck to you on Saturday. It'll be fun. We can't wait to get to Augusta. Hopefully, maybe you get there Monday. Maybe you come Tuesday. We'll see. Good luck to you on Saturday. We're certainly talk between now and then, no matter where you are. Indianapolis, Augusta, wherever. We'll be talking before Monday night. I know that. We're ready to get down to Augusta. This year, we're going to Augusta. They're good friends from Mercedes. Mercedes-Benz. They offer a wide range of SUVs from compact to full-size with up to three rows of seating. All with flowing lines and precise edges to balance elegance with aerodynamics. God, that's something you want to balance. You've got to keep elegance and aerodynamics in balance, in concert. They do it best at Mercedes-Benz. You can customize your driving experience, whether it's through the fast array of interior or exterior options or the hundreds of in-vehicle settings that can be personalized to best fit your needs. 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To set the table here, I just wanted to talk about a little bit about some of the characters involved with this one and their masters records. I don't know if we'll ever, and part of this might be competitive, I don't know if we'll ever see a roster of people with a chance to win on Sunday that have had such success at Augusta National as this one. 86, everybody knows who won. Jack Nicklaus, six wins, 15 top fives at Augusta in his career. 15. I mean, like the six wins is crazy. 15 top fives. I was looking up most runner ups because Kite, it was a factor, Norma was a factor, but never won it. But Jack blows him away with runner ups. He's way down, but also has the six. They have zero. It's kind of tough. Also in the mix, Tom Watson, Jack's like foremost rival in the decade before. So you got these two kind of grizzled little bets, two wins, nine top fives. You've got Seve, Seve looked like he was going to win for a while. We'll get into it. Two wins, seven top fives. You got Greg Norman, obviously, eight top fives, eight top five finishes for Greg Norman. Tom Kite, nine top five finishes, like kind of like the best player at the Masters that nobody ever references as the best player at the Masters that never won. And at one point in the broadcast, they say his record is second to none at Augusta. And they're like, well, besides the guys who've won, like, literally, he would love to wear that green jacket is consistency almost demands it before he is finished is what they said of Tom Kite second to none. I think it would take issue that if I was Tom Weisskopf, too, who was like really friggin good at the Masters, like had a couple solo second finishes to five runner ups for Weisskopf. Bernie Langer, two wins, three top fives also in the mix. You know, just a crazy, crazy cast of characters and there are some other characters of it, but just those names and those records. I don't think we'll ever see anything like it again. So Jack is in current form standards, the worst player in the mix there and not much expected of him. There was ironically enough, the first ever Sony ranking, world ranking came out this week going into this tournament. Now, of course, there have been refinements, but this is what they had that week and what they came up with. Number one was Bernhard Loner, who's in the second to last group, second to last group, I believe. Savvy, who's looks to be the favorite for most of the back nine. Sandy Lyle, who's playing with Jack in the fourth to last group, I believe it is. Tom Watson, who you mentioned is in the mix. So that's the top four in the world, all within the last three to four groups. Top four, you skip O'Meara, who's fifth, not Norman is sixth. Not Kajima. O'Meara didn't have a good week. The only time it flashed was for like a split second, his pairing, what they shot. Norman is sixth. Not Kajima's seventh in the world rankings. Both are heavily involved in incontention this Sunday. Hal Sutton, don't see him on this broadcast. Corey Pavin, you see him for better or worse on this broadcast. That's ninth. Calvin Peep, tenth in the world. He comes in on the broadcast at a top 10. So that's the top 10 right there. I think they're only two names that he didn't mention among, you know, last four or five groups in a period on the broadcast. Everybody is in the mix. And then you add in the greatest champion of them all with the greatest charge, one of the greatest back nine charges. So yeah, a great master's record, a great top of the world rankings record. We're going to go pretty by new tier in detail, but what I'll set up a few things. Watch this on YouTube. It's three hours long on YouTube. You can jump around as you see fit. It's the seventh most viewed video on the master's YouTube account, which is very tiger heavy. It's tiger 2019 97 01 a Bryson hole in one romp playing skip it to an ace like some 2019 stuff and then 1986. So that those are the views. It's it's up there. Non-tiger. It's basically the most watched without looking it up. Could you guys guess how much the winner takes home for winning this master's? I know it because I looked it up. $180,000. Lower $144,000, which is the equivalent of finishing 19th in Valero this week. The total purse was $805,000 total purse, which is, you know, what, you know, Lucas Glover makes for wiping his ass nowadays. It's crazy. It's amazing. $805,000 amazing. Inflation is wonderful thing. All right, it was clever real quick, Brandon. Yeah. These golfers are 46 years old this year. Sergio Garcia, Graham McDowell, Brant Snedeker, Adam Scott is 45, so turning 46 this year and Lucas Glover. So one of those guys could give us story tale, story fairy tale ending this year and win the master's just be jacked redux all over again. Rosie's 45. I would say he's very legit. That's right. He's got to be turning 46 this year, probably not before now in April, whatever, but 45 feels like he feels like the one who could do it. Just incredible. You laid out the characters and somehow they're all in the mix. Good, the bad to the end, the very last putt. I did not realize Greg Norman, honestly, I was three years old when this happened. Andy, I don't know if you were born, if you were, you were like a week old, maybe. I wasn't born yet. I wasn't born yet. I was about to be born. Okay. So we obviously, for a certain generation, it's honestly been reduced to yes, sir and the putter raise. Like that is, I'm sure 25 for a generation will be Rory falling to his knees and into like, you know, the rose putt that missed the edge in the playoff. We won't think about it. We barely see it anymore now, a year later, but for 86, it's been reduced to yes, sir and the birdie at 17, which, you know, was a great birdie, but I'm not sure the best one. Maybe I have the highlight of Jack's back nine. So much action. I thought what, and this was a throwaway line from Ken Venturi as Norman was scuffling about 18. They're like these broadcasters who are pretty stoic and deadpan are trying to balance that, right? The master's tone and what is happening. And he throws it away. He goes, it's just, it's just everything seems to happen here. This is what Venturi said about how the stuff you couldn't write up in, in like, if you were trying to pretend and script the most dramatic and ridiculous and amazing and breathtaking majors just seems to happen. And he was, he was talking about Seve's horrible shot into 15 and Jack's charge. He goes, it's just, just everything seems to happen here. And I thought that summed it up so well. It was in the middle of a monologue and he was, he didn't know what, how to put it. And I thought that perfectly encapsulated this 86 masters, which we'll get into. He said he'd been coming here since 54. You can't remember a golf tournament like this ever. Summerall said the same thing. Pat Summerall on the 18th tower said the same thing. I've been here for 19 years. So let's get to Jack and we'll do some big themes here at the top. By 86, he said, I was not the player I was 15 years earlier. I've always felt the masters was a young man's tournament because the speed of the greens, the firmness, the course, the demands it puts on your nerves. There are so many fine little shots you have to play there. If your game isn't right going in Augusta, it sure as heck isn't the place to find it. He says similarly in Butler cabinet is getting his jacket. He's like, look, hard hard and the speed you keep these greens, this is a young man's tournament now. I feel like that's not the narrative here in the 2020s. There's like, you have to have experience. Freddie Couples is going to shoot his 67 and then Phil can still contend or Rose can still. I don't know if that's still the narrative, but it was for Jack. This was his 28th Masters. What event Tigers 27th this year? He's obviously not playing. 28, 23 years between wins from 63 to 86, the longest ever, probably going to hold up. I would just guess 23 years between Masters is probably going to hold up. The final nine holes remain the record for the lowest final nine of the tournament to 72nd hole. It's tied with Gary Player in 78 for 30. And in Word 30 on Sunday with a bogey on 12. Pretty good, pretty good stretch. I also found it interesting. There's only two guys where progressive scores have gotten better to win from Thursday through Sunday. He went 74, 71, 69, 65, just all throughout. Marco Mirro is the only other one. Ironically enough, Jack also holds the record for progressive scores better. Worse, I should say worse. So he's done progressive scores worse, gone wire to wire getting worse every day. And also done progressive scores better every day to win it with only our O'Meara. I had been two years since his last tour win and he's 46 as you noted. Previous winner of the oldest day, oldest previous winner was 42, Gary Player. Anything Jack high level you want to get into here? We had heard so much about this. His story is pretty well told. He read in the papers that he's not really a golfer anymore. He couldn't do it. That was pretty much the narrative coming in. Yeah, one thing that I always just think about is like he leads us to the very end of the thing was like, you know, my interests are kind of more in business now and I'm going to show you that. His business like stuff was kind of a mess. Like he had made some bad investments. He was always kind of a little bit jealous of Arne's like golden touch with business stuff and tried to keep like investing in various things. And that kind of has continued like all throughout the next 40 years of him making some not great investments or questionable business decisions. And it just so like there was a lot of weight to that of like, oh, Jack, like, you know, and he's play well again because like his he's kind of blown through some of his money and he's not quite figuring this shit out the way that Arne always did. Yeah, he in the in Butler Cabin, it leads to like, I like doing this off the course stuff. You know, golf hasn't been my own focus. I like it, but it seems like some of it was a distraction because of bad business and take, you know, the business is going poorly. It was sort of the read between the lines there. Go ahead. I think something I took away and, you know, big picture. We'll talk about the telecast, but like the, you know, you don't see every shot, but like one of the things I took away is like, this is like the greatest backdine ever at Augusta. But from a sense that like, this is the thing that makes Augusta so cool is like he didn't do anything extraordinary in a way. Like he kind of just he took what, you know, the shot on 16 to me was like the shot that was the best shot. But in terms of like, he kind of just took what the golf course gave him. He made some putts made some putts, rolled them in. Um, but like the this is that that's the beauty of Augusta is like this score is out there. It's really hard to, to tactically avoid the mistakes at Augusta. But if you watch this round, you're kind of like, I kind of was like, you know, I watched this years ago, but I had forgotten really like what propelled this round. And I kept watching being like, wait, like when do you want to make his move? When's he going to make his move? And then it's just like, oh, like he's there because like, you know, he doesn't appear on the first page of the leaderboard forever. But it kind of like cemented home to me the idea of like, you don't have to be perfect out there. Like it is just sitting out there for you. If you can just, if your putter gets hot or if you hit some really great shots and what's what's more that, you know, the big thing, the more the thing that that kind of prohibits you is, is yourself. Destructing. And we saw a lot of that too. I think like you talk about that, like you rolled in big putts, I think there was no like the best birdie watching this, I think was Norman at 17, which also got a yes, sir. I mean, he did the Andy ball hit it onto the seventh green and like awful tug and somehow punched it through up onto the front. And then he made a birdie got his own big yes, sir. I think that's the best birdie of this entire watch or at least the last hour and a half. It felt like it. The most miraculous birdie. I wrote this down like the shot. And you know, this is the thing is like, it gets you said this at the top wins get reduced to like one moment, like the 86 faster than reduce to the putt on 17. Really? Sometimes they back up to the shot into 17. And if you don't win, it just gets lost to history. Norman 17th hole. Insanity. And that shot he hit into the green was so good. It's like one of the best shots I've ever seen in my life. Well, you'll see it. You'll see a little write up that Joseph and I did. We're coming out next week for best shots of master's history, but totally agree. I will say, you know, we said like the shot and 16 and shot and 17. Let's just be clear though. We don't have any footage of the shot into nine, the shot into 10 or the shot into 11. Like the fact that he made a birdie on 11 is kind of bonkers and we don't know it doesn't exist. Like he's in the tournament at this point. Like he's doing well enough to where they're paying attention to him. But CBS still at this point is kind of figuring out how to cover a tournament with five, six different people in here. If this were broadcast today like this, I think people would lose their minds because of all that we don't get to see that we just sort of take for granted. I mean, some of the literally like, you know, big, I like, I'll just say this now. Like there is no footage of Tom Kite and Seve by Steros on top of each other on eight. It doesn't exist. We just heard word that Tom Kite and Seve by Steros, both eagles eight. Stevi takes the lead in the Masters with a chip in and we don't have footage of it. That's changed. My favorite thing is that 20, 22, 15 of this video, Seve appears on a leaderboard saying he's five under at 24 44. It says he's leading at eight under. He went from five to eight in two minutes on the YouTube video. And I think McCord, I think it's McCord that had that eighth is my wrong there. It sounds like him. He said with the ball not lots happen here. Seve hold the wedge from 25 yards and Kite hold one from 100 yards. Not much going on here. That's all and nobody saw it. First time we see Jack is at the ninth green just putting without commentary. Mustburger goes, let's go to ninth green. Jack rolls in a pot and no one says anything and then they just go to like Ben Wright talking about someone hitting Norman hitting on seven. Nobody says that. That's the first time you ever see Jack is just that putting it rolling a putt at nine. First actual tee shot is 12. His first approach shot is 13, which by the way is the first time you ever see 13 for the whole day. It's Jack hitting on 30. Venturi's like, all right, let's go to 13. This is the first time you've seen this today. It's like the greatest part five in the world. It's incredible. Different world. This is not a critique of what they were doing 40 years ago. It's 40 years ago. While we're here, I have to say there are some things that would drive the modern golf viewer insane, but there are also some facets to this telecast that I loved. And I'm like, how did I do it? I knew it. You watch this thing and you in a way like by general takeaway is like, has golf telecast gotten worse? I think that you being overly romantic about this broadcast. And I understand what was better and what appeal to you as being better than current. But it was probably great for its time. People lose their mind if this is what they dropped in our lab today. It was like the general things that there was more, more, a little bit more storytelling than the modern telecast. There was more time given to reactions, which, you know, I don't know if we want to get to like my favorite moment of the telecast of the whole thing. But one of the things that I loved was the intro, the table setting of each hole of the back. I told the back time where they go to the guy, you know, they run through everybody on their hole because at that time they had a different person for every single hole on the back time. Let me just give you the details there. Bob Murphy on 10. So, but they go through and they go through. This is where the whole location is. This is how the holes played this week. You know, scoring average. And this is what to expect today. And it introduces each of these voices if you go through the voices. But it was such a wonderful way to to interject the course into and give viewers like a, hey, this is what's coming up. And they did it in like three minutes time. They open Bob Murphy on 10. Steve Melnick, you know, the great amateur on 10 11 and 12. Ken Venturi, as we mentioned on 13, 465 yard, 13th hole, 1986. Gary McCord, 14, Ben Wright, 15, who became sort of the star of the show. Nancy 16, Vern 17. This is Nancy's first ever masters at 16. 6 years old, I think. That may be right. That's right. Vern 17, as we know, Pat Sarmorl on 18 with Venturi kind of coming back and providing more of the golf commentary. It's kind of cool. They go from one to the next and they talk about their hole. They do not do that. It's much more consolidated with fewer voices now. Kind of, it's fun. Like I kept thinking about that, like, would the masters be better without like Nance and Trevor, like being the overarching or Nance and Fal though? Like if each hole had its own individual voice. I don't know. Like I like Nance. I obviously like Trevor, but it is kind of fun that they had the character of the hole comes through with that. Each announcer. I loved Ben Wright. He's the, he's the star. I have a couple of Ben Wright exchanges that I'd like to read in my best Ben Wright voice when we get there. So, Musburger and Weisskoffer in the cabin, but you're right. There is no like predominant voice. They set up a few things. They come in and out of break, but they're not like. They're not the conductor in the way that it is now. And it's just sort of like, all right, the action's all on 15 for this 45 minutes. It's just basically Ben Wright's broadcast, you know, with, with occasionally sprinkling in go back to Venturia 13 and you'll like occasionally go back to the cabin for Musburger. And that's it. The opening, I guess we can go linear here. What we talked about, Jack, I just want to mention like Norman. There's a real, this was what I forgot. There's like a Rory 2025 element to his round. I'm not saying it's synonymous to like, oh my God, this is the greatest stretch of golf I've ever seen before birdies in a row with 14, 15, 16, 17. There is like, this guy is, this guy is brutal. Like just a roller coaster of tension. There was a little bit of that that we saw last year. I, I, I, when he made the double at 10, I was like, Oh, is he, he's off the broadcast, right? Like when he made, I was like, that's it. And little I know, you already has a putt for the playoff, the down to the wire makeable putt is crazy. The roller coaster, there was a Rory element. Would you agree with that, Andy or, you know, different outcomes and stuff? This kind of goes to a bigger, bigger thing for me, a bigger theme of the telecast. There's absolutely like the, the seesaw. I just love the variability of the sport of golf in this era. I think I want, watching this, I, I saw some like the greatest shots that I've seen on holes in a while. Like, you know, this, I think this like ties to like, it made me kind of hate like that everybody's figured out this like modern strategy of aiming away from flags because like on 11, you can't tell me that Tom Kite did not just take full, like he did that. It was like, I want, when it landed, I was like, Oh my God, like that's one of the best shots I've ever seen on 11. The two shots that Tom Kite hits like into 11 and into 18 are as good as any shot that you will see like in the masters any year. I mean, they're just ballsy at the pin shots. The shot on 11, I was like, God, I haven't seen a ball just flagged to that back left pin in so long. It feels like just so long. Everybody just dumps it right. And it's like, Oh my God, this guy just flagged it. But then the variability aspect of this, and I think a lot of it, like I don't want to be, you know, banging on equipment, but I think so much of this is equipment. I saw some of the worst shots I've ever seen, like ever seen. I made a list. There was not many like semi shot into 15, which ruined his, his chance to win. It was horrendous. Absolutely. Corey Pavin was not into 16 was just awful. And the guy could have won. Norman into 18. Norman into 18. But like, there's like a reason for that is like Corey Pavin or I mean, not Corey Pavin, Tom Kite on 10 was hitting a four iron. I think I wrote that. It was a four iron. A four iron into 10. These guys are hitting six irons into six. Like it's just like a completely different, like they're talking about 16 being a mid iron or I think at 12, they said it was a mid iron. Yeah, I had that. Yeah. And it's just a completely different sport, but there was so much more variability. The shots in the moments still great, like so many great shots. Like I couldn't believe how many great shots there were into 15, like over and over and over again in this telecast. But then you also get these like God awful shots, which made the product like just the golf way more interesting. And I feel like anybody who's anti rollback, anti the sport for the professionals being challenging should watch this telecast and be like, wait, I could watch Greg Norman just snap hook two shots in a row on the 10th hole, like into the trees. And he could be leading the tournament like it kind of goes to the Norman thing like that. Like that Norman round had some of the most miraculous shots I've ever seen, like the 17th and some of the worst shots I've ever seen. It's I think too, you just see like what an incredible like athlete Greg Norman was. What to see the sounds of the ball coming off of his driver is awesome. It's so cool to see him just like take those big high hands and just absolutely, you know, every shot sounds so pure because they had to frickin hit it pure then or it was going to be a little ugly little, you know, smother hook. Yeah, he's a unit too. That was like, I just like, well, I was like physically imposing. The sound is something I made a note of that earlier. I think it was Nick Price or Nicky Price who's playing in the final group with. He had a three wood on seven and it made just this like erotic sound. It was like incredible. And you just get a lot more of that throughout the broadcast. Yeah, we just had to call out Norman. I just did not remember the details of just how roller if it's not Nicholas and it's not Nicholas six jackets at 46. Very few things were not going to make Norman story a story one the way it ended the way the Sunday went like absolutely in a modern era. He would have been the biggest story coming out of that. It's just you had the greatest master champion and when he was presumed over the hill like in a lot of ways. Norman was sort of the Sunday and that 18th hole are sort of I don't know carpeted blanketed over thanks to Jack. Thanks to the being reduced to yes, sir and Jack's charge because this was a pretty incomprehensible round from Norman. All right, let's go ahead, Kev. It's like Greg Norman's entire career in miniature. Like you start with the lead, you throw it away. You have the most unbelievable run you could ever imagine like four birdies in a row and then you hit a great drive on 18 and then you complete. You hit it so far into the crowd that I've never seen a ball like up there in the sense and you have a put still to tie and you miss it. Like that's Greg Norman is just like the agony and ecstasy of all of it. Would be remiss to not point out Norman had a three wood off the tee. Did he did. Did you write down what what club he was hitting in the longest player in the sport at this time? It may not the longest, but one of the longest players in the sport at this time on the 18th hole, Augusta hit a perfect tee shot with what he wanted to do. The three would obviously that laid him back a little bit, but he is hitting a four iron into the green. And obviously when you're hitting a four iron, shit can go wrong. Rory had like a hundred yards in last year. It just it's fun to watch the flight. You can't see it all that great of like the drives, whatever, but it's like, you know, a low like cut that that was like part of how the ball was launched back in the day. Like you didn't just fricking sky it into the air and let it carry three 15 and three 20. Like you had to hit it to 50 and then get 30 yards of roll out of it. And that was just a kind of a it's fun to see that when you look back at it. Yeah, a four iron. It is. We'll get to it. It's not the biggest house on the van de Vel block, but it certainly has a home on the van de Vel block and belongs there. I don't know if it does. I take more offense to this putt than I took to the four iron. But that's a, you know, six inches on the high side. Yeah, not great. But you can't hit it. That was my takeaway was he was using a four iron. Yeah, you can't hit it on the head. T you can't like, oh, you got just one up to the front of the green. It wasn't that far. The camera and like where the camera was looking in the in the patron gallery was was the was the issue. It made it look way worse than it was. Any, any pro could hit a four. If I dropped the pro 200 yards going up that hill, which would be a four iron, there'd be a bucket of balls over there on the right. Okay. Now, granted, it hits the people. So it would have rolled another 25 yards right of that where it would end up 15 minutes to move. They were deep where he hit it. It took 15 minutes to move all these people of an advanced age are kind of shuffle in their feet. It takes forever to clear out the space. It's on the vendor. I'm just going to say it's in the realm of possibilities. If you're hitting a four iron into the green. Sure. I understand that. I don't know if you guys did any of your homework and getting some of the assets here, but I think we have some visual aids here to help us tell some of the story. I took screenshots and didn't sign on the PJs. What I did. Well, then the SGS operation Kevin, you can still send a few. I just want to start out PGA. Hopefully you can load some of my first ones here. I would really would like to bring back the era of where adult men could wear glasses and still be sort of cool. I would just like to take you through this. This is Tom Kite. You're speaking about wearing glasses right now. This is why we need to make sure that glasses are cool. My father wore a pair of glasses. They're just like Vern Lundquist in this. We can go to the next frame here. We have Ken Green here. These are, these are all from this era, this tournament. Next we have Bob Murphy here. Just an incredible transition lenses and then Vern here is great. And then Tommy Nakajima here is to finish the clothes. These are, it's an incredible era for just like, yeah, if you didn't have contact. I mean, a running theme throughout this entire thing is that Jack can't see. He has such terrible vision that he can't know where the ball is. And obviously Jack was probably too vain to wear glasses like this, but I want to just, you know, give a shout out to Tom Kite. Didn't want any part of that. He wanted to be able to see the ball where it was. I, whatever, Andy, I don't know if you felt about this way, but whenever I try to golf in glasses, it completely makes me like crazy. I just see the frame out of the corner of my eye and I cannot make contact with the ball. And he's, which for me is tough. The one time I, I've been forced to play. I, so I got, I had an eye infection in my, my mid twenties and I got diagnosed with it basically like two days before a golf tournament that I was playing in. And it was my first round in glasses and since like I was a kid. And it was funny. I actually remember I played with a, I was playing with Roger Steele. This was pre, this was pre both of our, our forays into golf. Pre influencers. The influence origin story. There were a couple of things going on with me that day as I was trying to figure out where I struggled with, with the golf was, was like 30 to 50 yards. I like had no depth perception with the glasses. But anyways, you know, you know, anyway, that seed Roger here at golf ball on the third hole, I was like, what the fuck? I just, how did this drive and this guy's a hundred yards past me. But anyways, I, I ended up going out in 44. I was struggle. I struggled with the glasses. I came home in 32, which, which qualified me luckily, thankfully, but the, the glasses were real problem. Well, it was in the fashion. I think you played with them all the time. You get used to it though. For sure. Tom Kite never went away from it. As far as I know, right? I mean, did you play champs tour with, with glasses? Maybe. Well, we're on the top of the setting. Yeah. I had a question for you guys. What do you think Tom Kite and Savvy talked about all day? It's a little different. Dynamic. Well, I, there's a lot of that going on out there. What is Watson was with, is with Nakajima. Do I have that right? I mean, that's an odd pairing. Kite and Savvy seem like to cut from two different claws for sure. They seem like the two most poll, polar opposites, polar opposite personalities on, in this tournament. Yeah. Yeah. Glasses were big. Vibes were big. Everybody's wearing a visor or a ro-pad. A lot of visors. Ropat or visor. A lot of hats. Yeah. A lot of hats. Did you notice that Langer takes the visor off and on at various points in the day? Like some, like a true, actual using the visor for sun purposes as opposed to like an activation. Sometimes he's wearing the visor. Sometimes he's not. That's pretty good. I mean, with the Tommy Fleetwood Blackstone hat, I think it's just a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, and with the Tommy Fleetwood Blackstone hat, I think it's just time to cancel hat sponsorships on tour. Just get rid of it. Yeah. Be so much better. Well, I have one. I'm going to send, I'm going to send roll up an email. Say this should be part of your, this is how you, you grow the audience. I'm sure they'll like that. I have one image that kind of ties together. A lot of these things we were talking about. Paige, if you can bring an excellent up. This is a, of J. Haas. And this is kind of emblematic of the kind of shoulder turns that they took back then and the way that swings were like, he's completely up on his, you know, weight into the inside of his right foot, but toe is like all that's touching the ground and the visor here and the, the kind of aqua, I guess, what would be the description of those pants? Like kind of teal pants, blue, tealish blue, but this is like, you know, J. Haas ends up finishing fifth or something. This is how guys swung the club back in the day. You can see it a lot with Nicholas, just like the big leg drive, none of that sort of stable kind of beautiful, you know, what we think of like Rory Adams, Scott, Justin Rose motion. And it just, honestly, it looks awesome. The aesthetic of like watching guys have to kind of really like get their weight back and then wail into the ball is, is fricking cool to see. I mean, with this, it was also, it seemed like a toasty day in Augusta. And the fabrics, the fabrics, the fabrics, the top, the fabrics, the top for a toasty day. I had a question for PJ. PJ, did you watch this? I watched parts of it, but once we just decided that you three were going ahead, I did not commit all three hours. I had a question for you as, you know, was it, was J. Haas a problem? I mean, J. Haas might have been a problem. When we, when we discussed potential 2010s problems, there were people that submitted Bill Haas as a problem, but I said he was too good to be a problem as a former number one player in the world. J. Haas, I'd give you that. I mean, J was every bit of career of Bill. I mean, come on. Bill never finished like, Bill was never contending in the master's. I was just saying, J was the most good player. J is no FedEx cups. Not that Bill wasn't, but yeah. Oh God, that's good. I wrote that down just for PJ. I wanted to ask him, what's J. Haas a problem? One point. Go ahead. I was just going to say one point J, like this is where we were talking about missed shots, whatever. At one point J, like hits it into 16, like hits an unbelievable shot into 16 to four feet. And we never get to see him miss the putt. Like he has a shot to essentially like try the lead at the time. And it just later we come back and, yeah, and Nancy's like, you know, while we were away, I was, Ben Crenshaw made his putt. Fortunately, J. Haas missed his. Now we're on the 17th. You know what I think they didn't have the capability of was to tape a shot and show it later. Show it later. Yeah. Because did you notice it was, I think it was Norman was playing and they had to like hammer cut to Jack, putting out on 18 and you barely got there. He was like taking the like, as soon as he got there, he's putting out to win the Masters. Well, it's always like they're talking, the announcers are talking to each other about the end, the camera at the same time. Cause you hear a lot where it's like quickly now to 14. Like, yeah, it's, there's some, some sort of rudimentary like broadcast. It's rough. It was 40 years ago. It's incredible, incredible stuff. Let's start, uh, linearly, uh, a little bit. The broadcast opens. Mustburger leads us in. It's Mustburger and Weisskopf show for the first like 10 to 15 minutes in the cabin. I thought Weisskopf was great. I thought he was pretty good. Well, that was where I had, it's like helicopter going down. J.K. helicopter footage going down Magnolia Lane. I'm getting vertigo. I need drama. And there's just like bouncing down. It was probably like mind blowing at the time that they had this aerial footage, but, uh, he refers to it as the Augusta National home of the masters. It's golf's greatest stage as it was called. This is 86. I don't know. A master is pretty firmly entrenched, but he said a tradition unlike any other. So we have that tagline already getting used and said the green jacket, the most prestigious prize in all of golf, which I don't know. Was that the case in 86 already? I guess so. I guess, I mean, I'm not saying it was like, you know, yesterday, but the US Open was prominent. It was already by CBS standards, most prestigious prize in all of golf. Everything is just much more minimalist. There are like 12 umbrella tables that, you know, they do the overhead footage. Now there's probably, you know, 30 plus or something like that. So we'd lead into that. Weisskopf was good in the cab and he's like, you know, they've got, I like how they go through the history of winners. They've got Jimmy DeMarit looking like a news, a newsy, like in a news boy cap. They've got, you know, Arnold and everybody white T-shirt. It's just like a great montage of all the former winners. Then you have Weisskopf talking about this is an incredible course, no rough here, but you need strategy off the tee. So it's unlike all the other majors because you're used to just rough. Apparently, you know, this is the mid 80s of the US Open. You're used to rough at the PGA. This is unlike the other majors, no rough. The great thing, you know, early on we get Nick Price is left of six. Talks about the great thing about Augusta is you can do three things from off of every grain just about as he's going to bump and run. He's going to putt it. He's going to go up in the air. So Weisskopf, I thought was pretty good throughout the broadcast. And of course has that great history with Jack being from Ohio, Ohio State kid and, you know, snake bit and a little bit by Jack certainly over the years in the shadow. So anything else from early on, Kevin, we talked about the missed Eagles. You know, we don't see Jack until the ninth. We do. The earliest hole they show is the fifth, I believe they show highlights from earlier holes, but we pick up the leaders on the fifth green and Gary player for reasons that aren't entirely clear is in the cabin with some early commentary before he abruptly has to catch his plane is just on camera, like roughly taking his mic off his lapel. Like, I actually have a picture of this. Gary looks like he's on a late night talk show here. Like he's like talking to Johnny Carson at this point. Well, you know, Johnny, this is where the they ask him, you know, Gary, what do you feel about all these foreigners playing so well? From the Gary, like seeing all these foreigners playing so well. And he says, you know, Bobby Jones always said, there's a worldly game. I, you know, I'm a foreigner myself. This is a, this theme will kind of run throughout the show of like foreigners slash invaders. Invaders. Yeah. You know, somehow it's in a front to the masters that these foreigners are winning. You know, Stephanie's already won twice at this point. The idea that like, and this is true of like, if you greed, like the classic golf digest story that Dan Jenkins wrote, this is the first year that Dan Jenkins was not writing for sports illustrated. He had gone to golf digest. Rick Riley is now writing for sports illustrated. And the lead to Jenkins's story is Jack. No one's killed more foreigners than Jack Nicholas, except maybe Dwight D Eisenhower. Oh my God. One of the great, like, holy shit Jenkins lines of all time. So that, that air was out there at this time. Yeah, foreigners than Donald Trump. Like, what have we done? Wrote that at the start of a newsletter, like in 2026. I'll just write that for the newsletter this year and see if anyone notices that it's a tribute or see if we get canceled. So the first time foreigner comes up and this was just the lexicon was priced on the fifth green and player goes, I don't believe in the word. We're all just golfers is what he said. I don't believe in the word. And then someone again, I think Weisskopf or Musburger asked him about the foreigners and he says it just makes his blood boil. There's much player was when they refer to that like makes my blood boil. And Musburger is later like it's kind of us against the world when he starts talking about jacketing the mix because you have, you know, and price and Norman and Nakajima, it's just this foreigner is the word. And this is I have a graphic of this page. If you go to my next photo here, like this is the graphic that they throw up on the screen for more like as if like it's an alert for Americans. Like, you know, how do we need to fix the masters here? And some ways that is part of what plays into the like love that people have of this 86 Masters is that it was like Nicholas was defending our turf as Americans against this foreign invasion. And it just percolates throughout all the coverage of it for audio listeners. The graphic says foreign born players have won four of the last eight titles. And this is of Norman putting and said this moment as if he might be the next one. I you know what, low key. I love this old masters logo that we don't see anymore. It's like a great scripting. I would absolutely buy a t-shirt that had that as the logo on it in the front. It's all well sure they'll be working on the cook of that up for 20 27 for you. Maybe it's in there in 2026. One thing that impressed me. Sam Snead swing at 75 when they go they show the champ. God, he moved it. Yeah, honorary starter stuff. Yeah. This is Brennan knows this because I've joked about it a bunch of times, but later Snead just drills a fan in the face during the ceremonial T-Shot in later years. And it's the last year that's ever allowed to do this. He broke somebody's glasses and the chairman. I forget who it is the time up to look this up. This is like a New York time story. I think it like drills a guy in the face and the chairman goes, oh my. This is the quote. Also, I think it was Gary player said, Sevi. He described Sevi as the golfer everyone feared. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Great quote there. He said he's got he's got strength in the finesse of a locksmith. Yeah, the locksmith locksmith. And then they ask him, what does that mean? Tom, what is what locksmith mean? I don't think it was the one who said it at first. Like, oh, well, he's got good hands and good touch. He was known as like the power players, like the raw power is what they kept saying. And when Gary players is leaving and ripping the microphone off his lapel, they ask him like, who's going to win? And he's like, if it's the best player who will win, it's definitely by a Starros because he is for sure the best player in the world. And that's what just the sort of the rough nature of like, you know how everything's so polished now going to the cabin and there's Gary player like ripping his microphone off and having to be bothered to still talk. And then like holding it up like it's an influencer, Mike, like what you got on me? Keep talking. It's just all on camera. It's kind of incredible, but he exits the stage. Yeah, I think this this would be like it would lead sports center. This story going into Sunday of the Masters. It is just a footnote. The one guy in like the final four groups, there's a complete no name, Donnie Hammond. He's in contention. He pukes all over himself on Sunday. Let's be fair. He just just the first time they show him. He's hitting a miserable shot. Donnie Hammond, he's in contention. I think he was in the second or third to last group of the Masters. And as a kid, he was the gallery guard at the Masters growing up. It was his first Masters they never played in. Like this is like the one of the most incredible stories. And it's just like a footnote of the broadcast and I'd never heard of it. This would be like a seven to eight minute like Jeff Darlington, Tom Renau, the essay that the Masters put on where this everybody would be sharing it on social. Oh my God, a gallery guard is playing in the Masters. Not only playing is in contending. Third to last group on Sunday. He was in the second to last group with the defending champ, Bernhard Launer. Defending champ number one player in the world in the second to last group. It was his first Masters. He was a gallery guard as a kid. I think he still holds the record for a low round for a rookie in the third round. He shot 67 on Saturday. It was easy on Saturday, relatively. And then Sunday, easy-ish with no win. I thought it was a little soft, not to be, it seemed soft with the way the balls were landing on 12, 13, not a lot of run. 15, honest to God, with about an hour of 50, it felt like we saw the Rory shot of 15, like five times over from different guys just dropping balls within makeable distance. Not, I'm exaggerating there, but it just is, it's a little soft, there's no wind. And so Saturday, we'll talk about Nick Price in a minute, but yeah. I think I remember, I had to know that Ben Crenshaw hit a three wood and it stopped on the green from 240. Can you imagine trying to stop with three wood on the current 15 green at Augusta? I think you would probably have to hit it so low into the face, like 10 feet from the water, that it somehow kicked up and got just completely lucky. I don't think there's any scenario where you could take 100 balls and not stop with three wood on the green. It's amazing how much the ball was stopping on 15. I thought it was interesting though, like shots into nine. The ball just reacted a lot differently. Like sometimes they bounce forward. And I think it's because of just like the angle that some shot, like the uphill shots in particular to me, like really released. And it's just because these guys were just not hitting just wedges. I mean, it's just crazy the way to watch something and be like, wow, like, well, I'm just used to, I know how the ball is going to react when these guys hit it, when the modern players hit it, when they hit the green. Yeah. With these guys, it seemed like it was kind of like guesswork how the ball was going to react when it hit the green. Yeah. So, go ahead. Just my like memory of the Masters as a young person is just balls like sucking back like all the time. Guys would hit it long of greens. You know, they're hitting it 10 yards past the green knowing there's no rough back there. And just going to zip back like Greg Norman was like an incredible like high spin player with those ballada balls. You just made it like kind of cool and interesting because like you never knew what the ball was going to do until it was stopped. It was going to react in cool ways. I think they're, you know, and this was said early in the telecast, it got my attention and made me research further. You know, we talked about the variability, how these guys hit. I mean, just amazing shots, but also awful shots. Nick Price's tournament, he's kind of like a supporting character in this, never really a lead in it. Never, never once were you like Nick Price is going to win. Obviously, you got the number one in the world in his career, but he made, he birded 10 of the last 15 holes on Saturday. 10 of the last 15 holes. I was like, what? He got on 18 too. He opens with a 79. And in the same tournament shoots a 63 that still holds up as the course record. And this was the year after Curtis Strange opened with an 80 and was leading on the 64th hole tee, the 10th tee. He was leading by what was it, three or four? He walked across from nine green to ten. Yeah, like up three. This idea of variability was so much greater in the sport at this time. You could shoot 79 or 80 in the Masters and not your term is not over two years in a row. You have a guy playing in the final group that shot 79 or 80 on Thursday. To me, it's like it kind of just exemplifies like where what's happened to the sport. 10 birdies, lips out on 11, lips out for 11 on 18. 63 is still the course record in the Masters with Normans opening round at 96. Still the course. Only two. Not like a bunch of 63s. It was price 86. Norman in 96. Incredible stuff. He putts out on 18. I thought this was great for price. Summerall, who's just got the low, slow cadence. And he's in the tower. Nick Price, who shot 63 yesterday, but this is today. He like puts out, he's just in the way of Norman. He's like, but this is today. And it just like, get out of the way. I think this might have been like a CBS way of talking because Nancy does it later too. I think I figured out Nancy's cadence, particularly in this era, is there are no commas in Nancy's sentence. It's a lot of short sentences with the pauses in between. And I'll, I'll do one later, like as he sets up the shot at 16, but it's kind of a really cool way of talking. Yeah. It's, it's pretty, it's a pretty good tone and cadence. Let's start going like kind of in order. You know, the first leaderboard we say there's no, no mention of Jack. Like there's no mention of Jack. There's two pages. There's nothing. It's all the stars we've talked about. There's occasional Donnie Hammond and there's a J Haas, but there's just no mention. Norman starts with soul possession elite. Gets it back with a birdie at six. He's saving powers out of his butt at, at, you know, one and two and four incredible, like kind of a sign of things to come. There's a complete airmail job on four. You know, he's scrambling, but, but has soul possession elite at six. There's just not a lot of Jack involved at all. There was really the only time he comes up is ironically they go to Watson, Tom Watson. And they interview him before the round. He comes up. He's like, you need the experience. And I don't know if this was a shot at Norman shot at price. Some of the young foreign intruders or whatever they want to call them. He said, you need the experience. Seve, Loner, myself and Jack. He throws out Jack who like was not considered a serious professional golfer at the time, but, but Watson threw him out and Jack people like that. You need the experience when you're under the gun coming down at the end of the masters. And that's really like the first you hear about Nicholas is Watson threw him out there. The broadcasters aren't talking about him. They're talking, oh, there's Jack. He's four back. It's not mentioned. There's 45 minutes into the three hours. They still had yet to show a Nicholas full swing. That's correct. We had only seen, we had only seen putts. And the first full swing we got is on the 12th hole. I have 38 minutes in the broadcast is when he makes the birdie on 10 where they're finally like, well, we won't count him out yet. It's on this back nine. The bear is stalking. I was Bob Murphy. He goes in the bear, the bear is stalking. He says, come on, Jack. Smile. He tells him to smile. Bob's in like a 50 footer on 10. He goes, we won't come out of this back nine. And that's yeah, 40 minutes in. So we'll start there. We're far from starting, but we'll start in the kind of go through the back nine. Andy, what are you going to say? Jump in. You want to say something? Yeah, I was just going to keep going. Obviously he boogies 12, but we don't get to see the 13th tee shot. And like I looked at where he was. And it's like, how did, how did he get there? I want to see that tee shot because he's like literally two yards from the creek on a dead flat line. Like I don't think you can get there anymore. I don't think it's possible for a modern player to get to that position because you have to hook it so much. And now there are trees that overhang. If you get that far left. What are, what are the best things is he obviously rolls in the putt on nine, 10 and we see it 11 and then we see those putts and he's walking to the 12th tee. Like when he makes it at 10, that's like a 50 footer. That's the loudest where you hear in the broadcast to that point. You hear it down on 15 when they're showing Crenshaw and somebody else. They forget down on maybe Haas on 15 so loud. But again, these are just like hard cuts to putts all of a sudden going in. Then they get to him. We finally makes the one 11 and he's walking off up that famous walk to the 12th tee and Melnick I think is on the call. He goes, it's Jack Nicholas, the man of the hour and they haven't shown him at all. He's the man of the hour. They've shown three putts. The man of the hour. It's been 11 years since he donned that fifth green jacket. They haven't shown him. They don't, that's it. They show his bogey at 12 and then all of a sudden he's hitting in 13th fairway. It's the man of the hour and they haven't shown him. He made the turn four back. He made the turn. It wasn't like, as things often are with Augusta, it moves, it happens real fast. It moves slow. It's moving slow and then fast all of a sudden. That's where it felt like all of a sudden he was the man of the hour on the 11th tee or the 12th tee and we barely seen it and now it's like this, it's the greatest show ever within from essentially 12 to 17. DJ. Can I interject some literal breaking news into this podcast? Oh, gosh. Yeah, sure. Phil Mickelson will not play the Masters. What? Do to will be out for an extended period of time as my family continues to navigate a personal health matter. Oh, it's too bad. All right. Well, I can't. Brendan can't write Phil. I was going to say BP. You're all the way maybe. We can still find a way. All right. Where were the masters? The first masters without Phil and Tiger and God. God 30 years. I was just like, so Phil didn't play in 22 because of that. The ship. Knuck bucket just did Tiger miss that. I think Tiger might have missed that because of the heart. Yeah. I think that's maybe right. Okay. Anyway, it could be wrong. All right. Can I read? I forgot when we were talking invaders. I wanted to read this whole sequence is that Ben Wright is the first person Ben Wright, who's English or maybe Scottish. I don't know. Apologies if he's Scottish or whatever. But he says, uh, when that graphic was up there, he says, there you see how these invaders have been treated in the last eight years. And Weisskopf says, Ben, are you an invader? Ben says, well, you could say that. We like you. Yeah, we like you, Ben. Weisskopf's way of basically like kind of not giving a shit, but kind of also like, giving really insightful things is, well, who knows? I mean, if I knew how he thought I would have won this tournament, like this is a great delivery. That was pretty good. Where should we go tonight? All right. We've talked about, he's playing with Lyle. Who's the open champ, right? Go ahead, Andy. I think we're generally in the, in the sphere of this happening. And to me, this is the standout moment outside of the win. And it, it, it hits the theme you're talking about where this telecast, like you just don't see anything. All of a sudden out of nowhere, Corey Pavin comes into our lives and he's described as red, hot, Corey Pavin. Red Hot Corey Pavin is on the 16th tee. He's six under. He can win. So he's three back. He equals 15. They show the pot where you go. I think they showed that right? The Eagle and 15. They did show the, yeah. The Eagle. That would no shots into 15. He just appears. And while he's on the tee, they're talking about, oh, he's really struggling with 16 this week. He's made a double in two bogeys. He's four over on 16 through three days. That's hard to do. I mean, come on. I mean, it's 160 yard par three. I will know while we're on this, Norman still holds the record. He was six under for the week on par threes, which is still the record, which is that's pretty stout for the par threes of Augusta, which is six under still the record. But, but Corey Pavin was not based on 16 alone. Go ahead. So, so Pavin, you know, you think about it, he's, if he just plays it even, you know, this sound unreasonable. This is one of the easier holes on the golf course. So even he's at 10 under and he gets on the tee, on the tee and he has maybe the worst, one of the worst shots I've seen on 16, like, the middle of the lake. And what amazed me, so I think he made another double there. If I had to guess. So he goes to, goes to six over on 16 for the week. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a top 10 player in the world. And he sits down and the, the camera just state, I loved the shot of like the whole, the shot, but then also the camera on the guy's face for par three, pretty great. Yeah. And he sits down on the picture. They hang with him. He sits down on this bench. The picture and picture is kind of incredible. Like I don't know that we've actually advanced technology enough to where the picture picture wouldn't be an incredible like thing to bring back. And look at this. He's got his head down on a bench. There's a ball washer and his hands are buried and they just hang on this. All the way through the break. 40 seconds. But you know what? Like, what do you think about it? If you're the, what is he ninth in the world at the time? Yeah. And you just know that you're about to play this, this whole six over for the week. I think this would be your reaction. I mean, Andy. The shot lands in the middle of the pond. I mean, we're not talking to hits the bank. It comes back. Just get out. Long. Yeah. If you look very closely here on the YouTube, you can see the ripples still for where the ball lands. It's in the middle of nowhere. I mean, it came up 20 yards short. What I love about the camera work here is that yes, it's 40 seconds, but like they hang on him even as they're going to commercial break in. They pull up the full leaderboard. I wish I had the screenshot of this and they keep the picture in picture of him above the leaderboard. So you can see him suffer for just a little bit longer until the commercial break. 53 seconds. He and Mark, the Cumber make eagles on 15 and then all of a sudden they're in the broadcast. This is the issue with the, with the, the constant show more shots, show more shots, show more shots, show more shots. Like I want less pre-shot and more post-shot. Because this is like the, the thing that like you miss. Like this is competition. This is tournament golf at a nutshell. This is this guy who knows that he's played this whole like a 25 handicap this week. And that's why he's not going to win the masters. I think it was one shot out of the lead after the eagle, right? And he and the Cumber. Good stuff. Good stuff. Can we do that one more element? You brought it up here, Brennan, the, because I have a pick of this, the, the interviewing players before the round to talk about the round to come is kind of a cool thing. Like you mentioned the Watson one, they did it and Greg Norman one here. I have a picture of like what a handsome motherfucker he was. This absolutely like vibing and, and just like in such a good mood, like, Hey, you know, like some masters that, you know, this, this tournament hadn't really made him suffer that much yet. You know, he finished fourth once previously. It wasn't really in contention, but this is the first time it will really hurt. And I just, I kind of love getting the early insight before they go tee off. Like how, how much would you have liked to see? Like, I think maybe did Bryson do one of these at, you know, Rory obviously did not interdue interview before the round or whatever, but it's like, you get a little bit of like an insight into how the golfers are thinking and feeling before they go out and can't talk for five hours. Yeah. He talks about how long it is. People will agree to do this stuff anymore. A funny anecdote. I'm going to redact the names just to, you know, not to get in anybody in trouble here, but I, you know, I was talking with a European tour player that played, you know, in this era. And he's telling, he told me a story about, I think it was, it is. So Norman was dating a very, very attractive person at the time. And he had played poorly and this woman was coming to, to meet him at, at this Euro tour event. And Norman kind of had thrown like a little temper tantrum and left the tournament early before this woman that he was seeing arrived and she got there and, and she was like, where is he? And everyone was like, oh, he left. You know, and she had traveled to this event. And apparently she had turned, turned and saw Seve and said, oh, he'll do. And went off with Seve. Cradle. Pretty good. Good stuff. That is not in the broadcast of the night. It's not in the broadcast. That's just an anecdote that jogged by memory when you said he's a handsome MF for the interview. He talks about Norman before he's like, I'm longer than everybody. Like if I can hit a three or four iron into 15, I'm going to push on the gas and try to do it instead of hitting a one or a two iron. And of course one or two. I wrote that quote down to Brandon, like the math. All these guys are carrying two irons at this point because that is like the equivalent of a five wood or a, you know, a hybrid or whatever, which is. That's where the volatility comes in. You have to hit a two iron sometimes. The, the shot of one crunch. The shot hit that, that three wood. The angle of the camera was so good because it showed how freaking deep the three wood was that he was hitting. Like how deep the face was. It's like, oh my God, that's nightmare fuel. You don't have to get to Andy during that. It's like, he doesn't have a track man to tell him that he knows that three would goes 239 yards, whatever. He just has to play that on feel like he has to trust. I've, I've hit this job before. I know it's going to go and it's well, yeah, this is how you swing a golf club. Let's do it. This is not meant to be a humble brag on multiple pieces here. But like when I played Augusta in the media thing, I played with persimmon and basically 70s blades. And on 15, I pumped, I pummeled the drive. And I got into the spot and I stood over a four iron, a four iron butter knife. So this would have been what Norman was looking at, not what other guys were. And I was playing a solid core golf ball. So that's, you know, where, and I'm, I'm standing over this ball and looking at that green with a four iron. And I was like, oh my God, like, I have to hit this so freaking good. Like so good. Like it's a scary green to hit a wedge into like, but he got three wood or a one iron or two. Like, no, I don't want anything to do. Like I kind of get how chip back laid up in a way. It is like a, it's just a proposition where you're like, okay, like if I don't hit this dead flush, it's going to be a very bad result. And I feel like that is like, I don't know. It's something you watch this and it's like, uh, this is, it's just not the same. It's not even close to the same game anymore. Rory obviously hit a seven iron. It's not the diminishing, it's not diminishing his shot, reason for the 86 shots, but that he had a seven iron last year. And they moved the T 40 yards back. Yeah. It's crazy that just some of the irons, these guys are hitting, of course. You know, I, I, I heard yesterday that, you know, certain companies don't believe that, uh, that distance is an issue. Speaking of equipment, speaking of equipment, the 12th poll, Melnex on the call is the first time where we get a chuckle. He's chuckling about the comical oversized blade putter that's jacking. I got a screenshot. Like it's comically large, this giant jumbo head of a blade putter. And we say truth be known, this is Melnick. Nicholas's vision is not as good as it used to be. Jackie's helping him read the greens. He's got that oversized blade putter as Jackie reads the greens for him. And Weisskopf will talk about it later at 16. He's like, you know, Jack can't see anymore. He doesn't even probably know the ball, you know, almost went in the hole and is sitting three feet from the hole at 16. He always says this, you know, be right. He says to Jackie it is in the air, but it like Weisskopf is like, he can't see. He can't see the green anymore, but it loved the jumbo putter glimpse. We get it as well. Pretty good. McGregor's ZT response. They sold 300, 300 to 400,000 of these in the year after this masters. I've always remember, Rick Rathen described it as like the attachment to a vacuum cleaner. That was the size of it was back then. The amazing thing is like, if a guy, we've seen this over the history and it's probably becoming less and less prevalent. Remember when Zach Johnson won with his Seymour putter? How that went like nuts too? It was like the eye alignment thing, like where the shaft covers the red dot. And like, you know, Seymour putters became this huge thing, you know, because of it. It's amazing how like somebody using something in a major could just completely change the trajectory of an otherwise piece of equipment that people would have been like, who would use that? VJ Singh, when he won, the putter, the weird ass putter that he hit. The never compromised black and gray one. Designed by like a concert pianist who had no experience whatsoever in designing clubs. And it like the website melted down afterwards. It was like, it's like offset so that's like the, the, the shabby things you see me on the thing. The shaft comes down and then the head of it is like behind the ball. So it like forces you to keep your hands forward or whatever. It just, it's wild. Was it, was it David Thompson used the yes putter? It was Tom's, but they was had a moment. The yes putter, they had a putter, they had a moment for sure. It was a major moment too. David Thompson, the seven wood was like a big, you know, thing from the Tom's win. Yep. Okay. So he's the man of the hour. All we've seen are three putts. He bogies 12. We talk about his chip. Like he can't ship the dog is short game. He doesn't hit a good chip there and misses the putts save par saving putts. That's the only shot he'll drop. My favorite Nick, this hungable right is that he, some people talk like the after his career was over, were like, well, you won't really run out for your short game. And he was like, what, you know, I didn't miss a lot of greens. So, you know, if I had to miss a lot of greens, I would have practiced my short game more. I would have been better at it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. So, so he's, he becomes the focus, I'd say at 12. All right. Of course they don't show his T shot at 13 shows approach shot at 13 sticks up like a great approach shot. I didn't write down the club. Was it like a six iron, four iron somewhere in there? They weren't like, I don't know. They weren't like having to hit lumber. Some of those guys were not like Watson hit one of the biggest drives of the day at 13, hitting like a mid iron in. He hits a great shot, but it sticks compared to Seve lands different trajectory runs right up to the hole that great like back right pin and Seve makes an eagle. But whereas Jack has to grind for a two putt 30. Yeah. Do you want to talk about Seve's thing now because I had eagle at 13. So I have a visual aid of this too. Awesome shot by Seve. He takes the slope, trickles down towards the pin and he does the big no no of essentially like at this point, he's going to make this eagle putt and have a three shot lead in the masters and he shakes hands with his brother as they're walking up 13 fairway and then takes his hat off and waves it to the crowd. It's an incredible like celebration of like just like, I got this shit. Like we are, we are cooking. And of course, it goes very wrong later in a few minutes, but I just love the image of him shaking hands with them. I think it's Vicente's brother as they kind of look at each other. He said he put his arm around him and walking up the fairway. I just watching the whole thing. One of my takeaways. I didn't write this down was just like how much more expressive the players were with their caddies and like how much more like after Norman made Birdie on 17, you just see him like do this like big exhale and he's just like, you know, he's like walking to the next tea like pumped up. Like it's like you just don't, you know, like these players have learned to just be robots. Yeah. I mean, Jack's considered dry. He's like cackling walking off the 16th green as he like, I think he realizes the good fortune and how incredible this is. That's happening. He's like cackling as he walks off 16. So real quick. Yeah. On this. So Sevee Bert eagles 13. So at this point, Sevee is nine under through 13 and Jack is on 15 T at five under four back with four to play for him. Yes. Also a quick note in here that I would be robust. Paine Stewart makes an appearance around here. He did. Yeah. And they're like, he's already missed two putts inside of two feet. Yeah. Hey, This is like on Paine Stewart. And then like one of the three shots they show of Paine Stewart, he misses like a three footer. That was on 17. I think it was. I think it was just like honestly three feet, not more than three feet. It was Ben right because we took, we go to the sartorily elegant pain. Paine Stewart, we're told he has already missed two, two putts inside of two feet and that's it. That's all the pain sort of peers and then he messes up three footer and you could have been measured for a, do you guys know where Paine Stewart finished in this tournament? No, he finished eighth top 10 and we, this is the one 10 second thing we see of him was just gack in the pot. I mean, he seemed to be in a really bad mood. Yes. said he could have been measured for a jacket had those gone in the two to flitter and then he misses another one at 17 the sartorial sartorily elegant pain steward uh so sevy makes eagle right now they say it's sevy's master's to lose when he's four up uh on jack two up on kite uh and and cruising as we go uh jack's on the do we need anything to add about jack 13 he makes the birdie uh the bear the bear uh references are just non-stop prowl the old bear there's life in the old bear the bear is hunting again all that ben right ben right slide the line after i think i'm gonna do the whole thing here yeah for real park so well i'll set it up when when after he makes the eagle brandon can describe sevy's master's to lose i'll just say norman is off the stage norman who ends up being like the final putt the final god on kind of an underrated thing complete terrible drive clatters around in the trees hits it a terrible approach into 10 with a with a four iron uh and it has chips over the green into the bunker and then makes mess if it makes double like literally that was kind of norman's master's in some ways although he obviously goes it gets on fire later i mean the 10th hole that was a disaster yeah tugs that left in the trees gets lucky it bounces in the fairway then tugs it left like the one place you cannot i mean there's a lot of bad places to miss on 10 but going hard left off the green and doubles it um so you know norman's the main character then it's sevy's the main character and then jack like he's just sort of the old lion and they're you know whatever he's making some birdies and needs some disaster he's four down with four to play uh norman's off the stage nicklis is on 15 he has 200 yards to the pin they say he's never needed an eagle more uh is this part of your narration kev i don't want to cut it he said he's never need to do it afterwards you do this part i'll do the aftermath there have been three eagles in the last four players pavin gary coke and uh mark mcumber uh he flies into the pin and it lands pretty soft uh and they say he's got a chance he's got a chance uh is this part of your he's got a chance he's got a very good chance the old bear yeah i should have run down the whole thing but i have the post thing so he he rolls the pot in and this is a little bit of a controversy here as you'll hear in a sec so ben right he's got this lovely english voice yeah he says yes sir the battle is joined my goodness there's life in the old bear yet magnificent stuff and that information will percolate back to sevy bar status that's exactly what it was and he goes to the 15th team where we'll have to wait that was what he said um so he made the learn did not invent yes sir yes sir like this is yeah this is and right who was kind of actually bitter about this for years that and and uh verne actually felt a little bit guilty about it that he said he subconsciously heard it somewhere uh and that he used it but it became kind of his iconic call instead of ben right saying the first thing yes sir wow so we had a yes sir for the eagle on 15 for jack yes sir for the putt from verne on 17 yes sir for verne uh when norman makes his on 17 those are the three for sure um weisskopf when he's on 15 before he makes the eagle is like he's making good swings he's just a little too far behind is what he says about jack this is a must make at 15 he makes it um it was like a whole like will it sit you dany will it sit like he kind of he was just oh that's nice he's making birdies this is how the masters works right it's slow and then it's fast really quick uh i'll say i'll leave this to you uh kevin but when when jack makes his eagle could have been later when somebody else made their eagle he said eagles are becoming as common did you write this as household as your household sparrow eagles are becoming as common as your household sparrow i didn't understand that does everybody have a sparrow like i don't understand what that means is it a bird cage is it outside that was like a harry potter situation where everyone's awarded an owl and you just have one around the eagles are becoming as common as your household sparrow um all right so that's 15 he birdy eagles 15 all of a sudden he's four back the two back at the time but sevy's still too clear kite ahead of him all these guys are ahead of him not all the kite kiten by a sterile star ahead of him paving at the time he's tied with for a second um all right what do we have next sevy booms at 300 yards of 15 and it's considered huge like a huge just prime primo position like effectively cannot screw this up like you know he got into where all sudden he doesn't have that one iron in he got to where norman like effectively thought his huge advantage was uh another thing just random thing no spectators behind 16 t did you notice that uh i yeah nitrants yeah it's almost it's like completely uh empty there's like a great you can see the camera up there yeah and you can see a grandstand which i think was actually behind maybe 14 t hmm there you know there are obviously giant crowds by galleries i should say by the end at 18 one thing i noticed was it didn't seem too dense compared you know they obviously led a lot more people and not like 10 when norman's on 10 there's nobody there you can just walk up and watch the final group of the masters you can't do that now there's i don't think there's a grandstand i was trying to find this right of 15 green like there is now left of 17 green it looks like there's just a big like sort of viewing hill and not the grandstand that there is on 17 so certainly uh i don't want to say there was no it was it was dense by the end but it just seems fewer numbers spread out farther across the course i will say like one of the things that anyone who's ever been to this masters and you'd they talk about it later in the broadcast is that like the roars were so loud it was like being at a basketball game like i've said you know people said like there's never ever been louder than it was then when nicklas was making this back 9 30 run he called it deafening so savvies 300 yards in the fairway at 15 we'll get the jacket 16 here in a minute uh a one position we've talked about some of the bad shots paving into the middle of the pond at 16 i think is off the hook when savvy steps up to his approach shot at 15 just an immediate immediate smother hook into like nowhere close middle of the pond uh it's just an awful one of the great uh one of the great bad shots i should say if by by a master's champion and would be three-time champion they say oh he's pulled it he pulled that that's destined for the water there's some cheering i don't want to say it's like molotari putting in the water at 12 like there was like people in the background 15 who put their hands up and there is cheering uh there's a lot of cbs cover it like trying to provide cover for the crowd saying the ever courteous oh they're so courteous the ever courteous they say that three times about a two-minute span on 18 there is some cheering when he pull hooks it uh that's destined for the waters uh and what does he say the foreign invasion is reeling under the bears attack this foreign invasion is reeling under the bears attack so good an awful drop kick or just an awful pull hook into the water what impressed me about sevy at 15 was he decides where to drop it like in under two minutes like he's at one moment he's with two rules officials on the edge of the water they're like he could drop it at the edge of the water he could walk back to put more spin on it he could go to the drop zone the dude makes his decision ball down hits the shot all in under two minutes and i'm talking including the pacing it back all the way this kind of would have been a 10 minute thing of any pro basically yes in modern day yeah i timed it up it was one minute 40 seconds from the rules official approaching it at the at the water and then just like looking down going back walking it off hitting the shot kind of incredible um so all of this is unfolding like so quickly right this is right about the point when norman is playing 13 and he hits it long up above 13 and venturi says yeah look out oh as the ball slides down the hill i think he can feel the green coat slipping away yeah it's just like boom boom boom we're just bouncing back and forth between all these various traumas that back left miss and he was talking he kept talking it left right he did it at 17 did it twice at 10 now does it at 13 approach i did make a birdie from back there but yeah it's usually dead back left 13 uh raise your hand if you haven't played against it so jack gets to 16 and nance it's nance's moment he's a kid first masters he goes if anyone has ever hold owned this hole it could be jack nicholas he goes through his history there birdies when he's one is made one is masters um okay do it because i have this is one of my favorite things in broadcast history please this is i'm gonna do my best to dance here jack nicholas knowing he must continue the charge he has to figure that balsteros will make at least birdie back at 15 if anyone has ever owned this hole it would be jack nicholas when he first won his green jacket back in 1963 he did it with a birdie here at 16 and of course who can forget 1975 the 40 foot putt tom weiskoff what's going through jack's mind he has an experience this kind of streak in a long time weiskoff says if i knew i thought i would if i knew how he thought i would have won this tournament when they laugh together no seriously he's just gonna fire this right at the pin he's gonna think jack this is the time right now make the swing that you are capable of making stay down accelerate through the ball make a good golf swing your destiny is right here and what i love about it is weiskoff talks like this right up to the moment where jack is about to hit the ball i mean we get like your destiny is right here and it's two seconds before jack takes a club back after that and then nance just goes it's right at it oh my and it's just like i love that sequence that's one of my favorite sequences in broadcast history because it just it builds to the moment it gives you the history and then it lets it sort of speak for itself he he almost spins it back into the hole for an ace um it's that famous line which we're not privy to in the broadcast um where you know allegedly jackie's caddy his son says be good and jack says it is and you can't see it's a bit apocryphal do you think that that actually happened i i mean i don't want to i you said it but i've thought it like is this really i have studied this video so many times in the years to see if you can hear field nicklas's lips like moving he bends down to get the t so in theory he could have said it there but you you can't really like there's no evidence of it that nicklas says that obviously we don't have jackie i mean i don't think they would like make that up so obviously it happened but it's just like the conspiracy person in me is like wait a minute like why can't i see like nicklas saying this to jackie like oh it is like good what one thing that's a common theme throughout this broadcast is how um audible the crowd is on the broadcast because i assume these guys i don't know actually are they in towers like and their mics are picking there's so much stuff you can hear from the crowd like sometimes it's just like you're hearing conversations that are just going on next to the 18th green well when that ball is coming into 16 there's some guy who's like oh oh jesus like shouts it and it's almost like as loud as nance as the ball like it just adds to the drama of this he's gonna make an ace maybe and it's oh you got that wisecuff line of uh you'd mentioned the literature earlier and a lot of people don't realize jack doesn't see that well he probably has no idea how close up ball is so then nakajima who's with the savvy on 15 like cannot play for like minutes because 16 you obviously it's raining by the gallery and everybody's going nuts the whole walk up and he has to keep backing off the ball and uh they said it's like days of old because watson then has a chance of his own eagle at some point at 15 to get the seven under right after that uh so right like it's like days of old and so watson versus nicklas they're both going for eagles i honestly like i was mini mini digression on tom watson the guy won eight majors but nothing after 1983 and this is 1986 he had to think jack's 10 years older like jack won a major later than watson did like eight majors so many majors and they all came in like i think it was like 75 to 83 somewhere i looked it up earlier but like it almost in an eight year 10 year span and he had to think like i was going to outlast jack or at least get a major after jack he never did i i think something that's amazing about this major is the idea of like the old the old greatest of all time like go run in the gauntlet and take it on all the very best of this era and taking it to him one last time like i just think that that is like the overarching it's it's a little bit of shades of tiger in 2019 with brooks in the mix like where it's like oh oh boys you don't want this smoke like and coming down and just it's just let me show you something and like him doing it i it that's like right at this moment at the telecast is kind of where i was like thinking about that it's like how freaking cool is this tournament one point yeah nance says the golfers who have dominated the 70s and 80s have all congregated at the top of this leaderboard all the golfers who dominate this why though i guess maybe i'm i'm gonna feel dumb when someone reveals the answers why isn't faldo playing he had just looked it up he he didn't play in the first two majors of this year he was like he played in the previous three masters but then he missed two masters is this one faldo had sort of lost this when he later this year he finishes in the open fifth in the open championship and he wins the masters in 87 or so my championship in 87 my guess would be when this was this might be when he was tearing down this swing would be a guess i don't know maybe go making in the middle of a swing change just a guess um all right so so jacks gets through 16 he's eagled 15 he's eagled uh birdie 16 17 they don't see the drive they don't they don't know where it went he like verne is like oh we don't see it wherever it is it ends up being left never saw any drive on 17 if they just show the camera shot of like just the fairway there's nothing you can see yep yep uh so he hits it it's a 400 yard hole at the time 17 400 yards up the hill uh he said jack is prowling after his 20th major win we should know like that is the ubiquitous concert reference he's going for 20 majors which is now 18 um they can't find his t-ball quote we're still searching it's not good wherever it is well it was like okay you had a shot what an interesting thing was it wasn't a gallery they never take the ropes down did you guys notice that throughout like they never nowadays they just would you know obviously you take the ropes down you take the stakes down they're just like yeah you know if it hits the rope so well uh figure it out after he's like hitting over this gallery crosswalk sign and the ropes this happens over and over again with norman and others um but he has a shot and he a clear angle he comes up and over the top uh to the back back right pin and he's yeah uh to the back of the green birdie makeable putt and he makes a hell of a shot from to be on that top shelf like it's to not go long there nothing compared to normans though yeah that's true yeah it's not it's interesting nothing compared to yes like i'm not trying to diminish jack shot but like what you see 15 minutes later you're like oh my god that's when we remember earlier this year we did the greatest shots in a losing effort and i did not put normans shot on there because i honestly was kind of ignorant of it i was like oh i've norman blew it on 18 like what and someone's like yo you need to go check out normans shot on 17 and it's like we'll get there in a second but it's so good that it made our next list that's coming out soon for like greatest shots of all time can i just point out something that like is a big theme of this uh the telecast um and also our commentary to this point nobody at all is talking about tom kight who's just there he gets runner up he's like literally he has a punch to get into playoff like what's the closest to getting into playoff and he's just literally like they're the whole time kind of plodding along yeah yeah and it was just like you know it's like just like perfect for tom kight i feel like i'm like this guy really great player of the era but like not really memorable in terms like when people rattle off names of the 90s and 80s they don't they don't go to kite even though he was this great great player and like even on this telecast it's just like in tom kight there's just one back these are tom kites consecutive masters finishes 10th 5th there's some ties in here about 10th 5th 3rd 18th 5th 6th 5th 5th and then this ends up finishing 2nd 6th he misses the cut and finishes 2nd and then later he has kind of a low but he finishes 4th and 2nd uh it's like incredible incredible run tom kight incredible run and honestly had the shouldn't could have been in the could have been in the playoff more more than norm played better golf than norman on sunday certain norman was erratic but uh i forgot to say the bears come out of hibernation is when we get that famous nance line when he's walked off he's gone eagle birdie at 16 pulls it on 17 gets up to the back ledge uh and this is where we get the famous the most famous yes sir putt i i think like it is so aided by the visual like the putter rays like he knows it's going in the jar while it's still going end over and uh tumbling and i think like it's the iconic moment from this masters um i guess he went he went away or he went ahead for good here and i guess that's the point of it but watching the totality of the three hours like oh that was awesome major massive moment but it's like of a piece of like the hundred other things that are going on you know uh so anything you need to add i'm not trying to give this short shrift but jack 17th hole i just love there's a couple little subtle things like i love how he tugs his pant leg up a little bit before he reaches down to get the ball uh which is just kind of like an old guy thing like your pants don't fit quite right and so you i think he's a fabric okay it's a fabric yeah also the fear of like splitting your pants if you don't like just sort of adjust them a little bit and i love that after he picks up the plane he's walking off he does he looks at the sky kind of like he's sort of like kind of doesn't believe this there's a I have a visual at the very end of this but he they show it later where he's just like whoo like he kind of like was almost like is this shit really happening like this i'm just really real life at this moment this is kind of cool incredible uh sevy makes his makes his bogey at 15 and they say he's now in a tie with jack and we get the foreign invasion is reeling under the bear's attack great ben right line we don't really sevy that's it that's it for sevy essentially we don't really see much more well i mean 17 we need the put he hit out 17 i mean still had a chance i did i always thought when he was dead and he hit it in the water on 15 no no actually the putt on 17 needs to be talked about he has like a 18 feet for birdie to tie the lead he's behind the hole 15 feet past any three putts and then it's over but he could have either made that putt or if he just two putts there from very short distance he could birdie 18 and get into a playoff it was like i the 15th shot was one thing i my note was sevy just melted on 17 he's mentally cooked i mean he melted melted down there he said on in his biography years later that the shot on 15 like haunted him forever like that he just couldn't get over that he smother hooked it into the pond there with with like all he's got to do is like put that anywhere on the green two putt he's gonna win the masters the putt on 17 you just don't see like okay we can talk about equipment right equipment issues make make the misses worse the put on 17 you just don't see from guys in contention at a major who've won that major multiple times we're talking like he makes contact he waves at the ball knowing it's going like 20 feet past what like isn't the general justiculations of players were it was so incredible yeah like they they were expressive one more one more one more preposterous sevy moment so he's ball and 16 lands on the top of the bunker he does a hockey putt he does like he's got to he did grip it down like all the way the handle the hunker does a hockey putt he makes a par but that was i do like it that at some point i think it's on 18 venturi says uh they keep on balusteros this is before they anyone at newt i pronounce the double l's balusteros will win more than two what will we'll win more masters i guarantee you that uh it's like nope that didn't happen there yeah yeah guarantee you that he said i guarantee like he is the undisputed best player in the world i guarantee you that i had that right uh i had to back off his putt as jack is going up 18 um uh he almost so jack hits in the middle on 18 it's the middle of the green on 18 doesn't get up to the there's not the usual pin that we've become so custom to right there like middle left there in the in the swale um and it's this top back right pin would have been perfect in the normal pin we're used to has like a 50 footer that he almost he puts in the heart and people are like losing their mind like oh my god like i thought that was going in like like you know reach reach and it was it nearly went in he's just a tap in part can you imagine if he had made that putt and essentially had just like shot 29 to win the masters like and there was no doubt nobody was going to even like have it putt to catch him as he was walking up venturi says in all my years and in the golf in all my years in the golf i think that was the most emotional and largest ovation i've ever heard as jack is walking up to the green and he almost makes it he goes that was right in the middle pat what a play what a champion what a round what a player ah beautiful he says ah beautiful when he hugs jackie uh as his kid obviously as they're walking off so that's there's still a lot of golf to be played so so anything from jack and 18 we got that cup go ahead well the other the pot the pot was incredible isn't it in the heart yeah a couple rolls short lay like a 80 footer uh completely dead where you just have the tap in um meanwhile though the shark the shark is circling the shark is circling so he's looked horrible looked just yanking the ball saving parley then he goes to birdie 1415 1617 that's it that's all he did uh 17 we've talked about uh where he didn't really describe what it was oh yeah i want to hear your description of what well i mean 16 he hits that shot um and it it just kind of corrals in and i feel like when jack was putting out if i if i recall normans around 15 and bedwright says here we have it a a shark and a bear yeah a lot of animal terms flying this line but uh but then 16 he hits like just like the just such an epic shot you know where it plays the slope perfectly corrals it in and it's just like oh my god it you know what like you guys i i can't remember who said it was kind of a rory s ground yes it it was because he would hit that shot and they followed it with the snap hook off 17t where you're like what where did that come from the best player in the world it's like the it looks like nobody could beat you and then you're like yeah it was incredible 16 was it was not the i know we're time out these near aces but i mean kite air milled it paving hit in the middle of the pond it wasn't like just everybody throwing it to the same spot and like a wedge and sucking it back and past the hole there was a variability there even amongst these last uh five five to six groups um so on 17 like it's unbelievable the eisenhower tree is there like you wonder if it's like caught in the eisenhower tree you just know you could see the ball snapping off the t and that's it there's questions on whether you should get relief from a sprinkler head that is for the seventh green it's on like the fringe of the seventh green and this is what andy i think you ended up over here when you played around not to throw your round here again but like you just don't see this much you few more trees then yes all the sight lines i just want to point out that these are two of the greatest shots in master's history that nobody would be able to hit now because they've planted a gazillion trees over there to prohibit like phenomenal recovery shots the sight lines are crazy the other thing you notice watching this there's no pine straw on the golf course no yeah no there's nothing no pine straw uh sight lines just from like through around 15 and 14 there's no it's just kind of open um so this still is kind of a it's a low runner onto the front of the green and he makes essentially about the same length putt as jack like the the shot to get from essentially the seventh green to call it like 12 feet was a miracle uses the ground runs it up there and then makes the putt and gets the yes sir and is smiling and runs like is kind of like skipping to the 18th green burn playing the hits using yes sir yet again uh for norman here this is like when i've read one hit wonder has a radio hit you hear it like 10 minutes after you heard it on the radio again yeah also while this is going on top kite is basically hit a great pot that ran that if he hit a fraction harder goes in and gets into the playoff but once again nobody talks about on top kite probably shouldn't want this he and kevin chary just yeah best like hits a six iron venturi we didn't really talk a lot about venturi who's kind of a dick like in a lot of ways like in a very honest way but like we'll cook people like if they don't and he you know everybody's rooting for jack at this point it's like they kind of want jack to win like you know kite hits this great six iron into the green and just how you think it was it hits the top of the hill and releases right at the pin and and venturi's like oh kind of a lucky break there i was like no dude like that's a really good shot it was the best approach shot on 18 of the day of this broadcast that's and then he was the venturi say on the pot you cannot be short here you do not be short as soon as he hits it just as i said short didn't hold the line low left short can't be short there a guaranteed norman will not be short here on his butt i mean i i get it i get his point like he didn't give it enough it got to the it got to the hole yeah it was low yeah yeah yeah it just missed on the low side um but that yeah and he loses by a shot um tom kite incredible he will win undoubtedly with how consistency how consistent he is his jacket is coming is what they said uh so norman birdie 17 uh i will just say i forgot to mention at 17 when jack made his and we got the yes sir they asked weiss kopf who has his history with him like jack uh tom you must be a jumble of emotions right now he goes i jumped up i jumped up i like i can't believe this is happening weiss kopf is in the younger than jack he's in the broadcast booth and you got jack he must be a jumble of emotions so so norman follows shortly makes his own birdie at 17 um 18 as we talked about makes draws the three wood perfect down the middle has the four iron i got a picture of this right here we can if beach can pull it up of uh of norman standing in the middle of the fairway here uh the whole thing you know part of far for a playoff probably what we're thinking like 190 here or something like you know 200 essentially in 1777 77 didn't for trying to hit a draw 177 uphill yeah so you know you're probably playing that it's probably a 195 shot he's trying to hit and he's getting four iron one thing about each 18 is much more open on the t box less claustrophobic like the ropes i don't know if the rope line the box is just bigger the other thing is the box is 30 yards up it's not very back i understand it's on the top of that hill piece of it is the bottom the t box like the the cluster of trees is a lot closer to the t box it's so open now just feels so just kind of roomy up there uh so he gets it up there um i have a next shot here where he hits us in the crowd well as he's as he's over the ball venturi goes if there's any doubt about the greatness of the man oh this is about jack about the grace man he's proving it today but they're talking about how venturi's like surely a playoff or a win like probably not a bogey is coming everybody's congregating around the 10th green so they have video of the masses running down to for the norman nickolas playoff like everybody's encircling the 10th green and and they're like they're all they're all heading there this is going to be a playoff you know at worst uh or a win for norman you know he's going to get his win uh so all right so go ahead kevin i didn't mean to interrupt you no i just you know norman we talked a little about the beginning uh i always remember this in sports illustrated that rick riley referred to it has his four iron f or e uh and because he hits it not hitting 15 rows deep into the crowd uh here it's like at the top like at the kind of the top of the picture here if you're watching on youtube is where the ball lands it's just such an incredible like miss for like the championship was on the line but he hits a decent enough chip to where he ends up with this putt in the next frame here uh to to you know it was incredible yeah trundles it down there so good using the ground okay it's like that is so good yeah uh obviously there's one more frame here of the putt like standing over it he does not hit the greatest putt here uh no it's you know misses by a good foot uh on the left whatever it's like you know maybe eight inches on the left but just like i don't know i can't help but feel a little bit for norman as i go back through the last month through some of these old masters of just how close he was to winning like four green jackets and gets blanked uh over again again yeah you can't that approach shot just go for the playoff it's unbelievable how how wide that approach shot was i know he had the four iron after you just watch what he did on 17 venturi is like sort of incredulous he goes you're he's watched this for the last two hours he goes you're not supposed to do these things in golf what you're watching you're not supposed to do this and and then we get the other side of the coin of like the very bad with the approach after the recovery for birdie on 17 where he's just miles into the gallery and does the one thing i honestly the fact that he had that putt for par was a miracle i thought the chip was incredible that he really i thought he was dead in jail there's a there's an incredible visual of norman they gotta clear out like 10 rows he's so far back and there's all this um you know because it's a gust that they probably don't want to say this but like detritus there's water bottles and you know like rappers and he's standing there and it's taking a while for these people of an advanced age to screw up he starts kicking these bottles like he looks like resign he has his hands on his hips like looks like he's in jail seems to appear to have the attitude body language of someone who's done gets to the point where like it's unbelievable how he's just looking around so mad like i'm done i'm toast and kicks a couple like extra leftover items of garbage after like these the rows of people have been moved back and you know after a portable visual after birdieing four in a row you know he was thinking i'm gonna birdie this last hole and i'm gonna win the freaking masters i just i'd never i don't recall that this hun on a single putt at the very end with norman i just you you see the jack and this was essentially the same thing as rory last year on 18 like that tension and death in the air life or death and you just it's been reduced to jack and and all his charge which is of course sorrier but i just don't remember it coming down to the wire of course he's in the jones cabin i think it's jones maybe his eyes and how it was a jones cabin yeah joseph which is you know left the 10 there and so i have to race him over to the butler cabin um which of course i have a good visual here of him walking uh i thought it was very funny the security guard sticking his hand out yeah shake his hand as he's walking and nicole shake his hand and random people just like walk in yeah shake his hand i'd that whoever that man is who's on it appears in the video it just walks in front of the security to shake this guy's hand with the greatest major ever like hopefully has this as some keepsake it's just joseph mo maybe it's a friend of nicole uh kevin you you illuminated this i think this is one of the greatest early memes if only social media existed when this was created i saw i was happy that you gathered this because this was the one asset i wanted to be in here what's this floating head jack over 12 like what an unflattering picture at the end he just went to the master's he was this six screen jacket and it's like let's put together the worst looking photo we can't have if you're listening on the pod it's it's a shot of 12 for some reason and jack on after he made the putt on 17 looking at the sky which i was alluding to but it's like like his disembodied head is like sort of floating over the bridge it's 1986 uh photoshop uh capabilities here that's kind of like transparent too so like where jack's collar is you can still see through the green and like part of his like shirt and skin on the green it's it's a it's a trip what when norman misses the putt badly venturi goes that is hard to believe what a finish what a finish my god what a game uh and so they rush jack they get him to butler cabin you could hear him musper is doing the voiceover with he's in the cabin with horde harden who's the chairman of gustin national at the time uh horde trying to get some like asking questions in the well that's he didn't seem ready to ask but there you can hear jack kind of rustling in because the audio of this whole day is like you can hear everything in the room and around the hole it's like this mic's picking up there's jack like come where's my jack like rustling in to get to get a seat as musper does the the voiceover uh so they go uh they go to musper never in the history of golf is a more popular champion been crown um horde harden the chairman talks about we have two men who have prevailed who's the other sam randolph the one right now i mean i got he prevailed he did below am do you know how many more masters sam randolph played in one one another this was his best t18 as a lamb was pretty good was a bona fide prod t36 t36 he says only in the year before oh okay t18 was his best masters finish um a usc hall of fame he finished runner up in the year before in the usm then won the usm to get it so he played played the masters twice two years in a row as they ambushed it's pretty rare yeah they go to jack um it's been an unusual year for me i really don't have i mean horde harden asking sam randolph is the biggest sort of total curveball for the moment like this all time what a master's the greatest masters i've ever seen that venturi says and they've got to talk to sam randolph he's like you know i'm gonna go pro and it was a great day i think the question was uh you know how was your day out there i hope you enjoyed yourself so it's a randolph in low am that everybody's supposed to hear from jack pretty good i hope you had a nice day um jack says it's been an unusual year for me i really just played awful and started playing well about a week ago i felt like i could play i didn't expect to be in position to win i felt this morning all of a sudden though if i shot 66 i thought i'd tie it if i shot 65 i'd win it and that's sort of the masters right like i like it can happen really fast on a sunday of course you can't shoot back nine thirties every time but he's been there he's like i haven't had my game but i wake up on sunday and he's like and you know maybe 66 i can tie it at 65 maybe i maybe i'd win and that's kind of what happened he said i haven't had this much fun in six years he gets emotional talking about jack jackie when they asked him about his spot on 15 you know i talked to jackie and then just the mention of jackie gets him going and very emotional and how he hasn't had that much fun in six years talked about the crowd being deafening and having to wipe tears from his eyes and like you got golf to play you got golf to play when he was walking from like green steeze as the crowds were firing him up um kind of saying andy i didn't know jackie was such a good player they talked about how you won the north south amateur so right great player his own right we got a lot of that a lot of that throughout which was a special moment you like the father and son's deal was it was evident throughout um and yeah he's like you know i'd heard all about how he'd like i can't win anymore and i said i'm gonna prove him wrong you know i wanted to show they were wrong and uh yeah uh in all time in all time masters for sure what else am i leaving leaving off the table here anything just my one last kind of journalism tidbit here is that uh dav kindred famous sports writer first washington post stuff didn't attend this masters it was like the first one in 20 some years or something he didn't go to because he was attending the wedding of his son and so all these people were like oh man bet you you suck that you missed that whatever and nick let's heard about this and wrote kindred a letter and was like i just want you to know like how much i admire the decision that you made like family is like way more important than anything that i could have ever done and if you ever want to know like the inside scoop on what happened in 1906 just give me a call i'll be happy to give you the the tail that's kind of a cool thing um andy you got to run you got any sign off kevin and i can wrap it you got anything else all time uh all time masters uh was super fun to do it and uh i think like yeah i didn't get like what gets lost to time is just the gauntlet that he goes through of players to beat um i don't think we'll ever see a leaderboard like that yeah you know it'd be you know effectively like right now is would be you know you have like i don't know justin rose wins and it's rom rory cheffler um it's almost like tiger but like healthy tiger yeah but like francesco molotari was a problem no right eight months oh totally oh i'm not comparing it to 19 i'm saying like tiger two years ago i don't know healthy tiger two years ago having to take on those guys incredible yeah just like crazy all right well we'll button it up r of r good good time you uh kev um this was fun this is enjoyable leather notes you got i just i found jack to be you know we tend to think of him at pretty dry but you know this was one you hear about from your dad and you hear about like i wasn't around i i didn't remember like the kev at the andy's point just the amount of people who were coming at him the amount of people like bias steros was the favorite norman was the favorite at the start nicky price was the favorite at the start of the day you know loners is great defending champ that number one in the world um and jack's like you know people are saying i was at a usga dinner like the week before and they're asking like essentially when you're gonna stop playing so you know i'm not playing well and i'm not gonna go out playing poorly i'm not gonna go out playing like embarrassing myself and playing poorly this is not how i'm gonna finish and then like a week later he's shooting 30 on the back 965 on sunday um i don't think it can really be over romanticized quite frankly or over hype every sports writer who's ever lived has covered golf has written some version of like in the day jack nicklaus like put you in a time machine and then made you forget that we could you know you could be forever young uh it's funny i i don't have the memory of this i was born late in 77 uh and so you know i'm nine years old this point i don't have like really any interesting golf or but i i got permission to tell this story uh my father golf fan my father kind of grew up kind of more blue collar uh he was you know his his father was uh was a history professor but he also like worked as like a newspaper delivery guy and like so my dad like he in college he worked in a cannery and stuff he was like a he became a lawyer later in life but he was he was kind of an aspiring reacher my mom her father was a doctor and he they were kind of bit more you know upper crust at least for montana's sake or whatever and my grandfather was very proper person you know he he like knew shakespeare and he was like he loved to play cribbage and he was a more serious person his 1986 masters comes along and they're having i don't know if his Easter dinner because i don't think it's happened on Easter but it's like a round then it's like a holiday and my parents are in gray falls montana and dinner is being served like while the masters is going on and my grandparents who liked golf certainly didn't think that you would like you know skip out on dinner uh to watch a golf tournament and certainly didn't grasp that like what jack nicholas winning the masters would meant and so my father is like being called to dinner repeatedly while the back nine run is going on and he's sort of like putting off my my prim and proper grandparents and keeps kind of like making excuses to like go back into the living room and turn the tv on and stuff and what and i think my mother was like from my dad's telling of it was kind of mortified about the whole thing and i just love the image of my dad being like yeah but like jack nicholas is winning the masters like sir we can we just like pause these barricades and lamb that's being served here and i can go finish up this masters pretty good if there's any doubt about the greatness of this manventory is that yeah there's everybody just there's a right thompson essay that like got me into my first like when i was going to cover my first masters and got me all fired up i think it was probably about 10 years ago now or you know about like his dad and what come your son you're gonna jackness because it's about to win the masters and this would be the greatest day or story of your life and that got me all fired up to go the math even though i was through i was two and a half i was two almost three years all the time my dad was like a big golfer and then got into golf caddying and and nicholas was from Ohio wisecuff was from cleveland like they were they were you would hear stories of him like watching this and but that's all i had like the first masters i remember watching my parents were like kind of the woozy and ollie and and in the 90s early 90s and this one you just are reliant for me i'm relying on my dad so watching it back was like just trying to think in modern media terms how this would be covered it would like we just self-combust between like the norman issue savvy issue the savvy 15 as the best player in the world at the time i mean this dude i think i told this in the when i joined friday like rick rally's game story about the 86 masters is kind of a like part of my sports writing origin story i didn't read it until 10 years after it ran but i was so like kind of in awe of the way that the you could write a game story that good that would make you feel like you were reliving this event i mean it wasn't until the what was probably what six years ago or something that the masters put these things up on the broadcast i think uh on youtube where you can watch the full thing yeah so i i didn't watch the full accounting of this until you know 2018 2019 and my recollection or my memories of this are almost all entirely from reading print stories like of reading that jenkin story that i alluded to earlier buddy killed more foreigners than eisenhower like um it's just like so that kind of shows you like how different it was but how the power of print and what the reason why i became a writer is because those written things are what kind of influenced me to get into this yeah uh an incredible rewatch worth the time it's three hours which can take a while you know jump around get in there but there's so many that you know nuggets so many amusements the broadcast is just hilarious in and of itself i'm sure was you know it's just it's 40 years ago so there's all sorts of different different vernacular different technology uh and then the greatest you know arguably the greatest major championship uh of all time uh anything else any other amusements nuggets you want to throw out there total strays to unload the notebook we don't need to end up some stoppy jack quote but we certainly can uh i just to add to andy's point one of the great values of watching this are just the worst shots are the worst shots you've ever seen and there's like a list of 10 of them that you can pick from snubby on 15 paving norman like four or five times loner like it's just you miss you miss bad so that's another like just interesting part of the watch so yeah um i just like that the broadcast just one note on the broadcast went out with the mistake but with brent saying there he is hugging jack and jackie hugging on the 15th green he has won the masters again and then it goes to faiths of black it's of course on the 18th after they're walking off it's just there's a lot of that stuff that people modern twitter would go nuts about yeah i mean i i didn't have any other things really and i mean i i did a ranking of greatest hair uh because like i had our number one why all right great norman i was like different best hair i mean so back then you know a lot of golfers now you see them they take off their hat and they're balding or whatever it's probably because they've been wearing hats for 20 years whatever but the locks were like incredible back then so like i had longer at number five but what an incredible like coi thick nick prises hair is like a perfectly helmet tom kight wears the visors you can't really see it but he had great hair kory paven's hair is incredible uh and then greg norman's really is like it's the king i don't know if you can put jack in here although jack has great hair too it's just like how blonde and you know kind of perfect hair dude norman and nicklas have it's kind of crazy that like that that level of blonde doesn't really exist in for some reason we've bred it out of the modern game i think i don't know i just love the lack of hats that's such a neat thing uh my guy calvin peat finishes 11th uh in this masters is his high it's his best masters uh performance ever you know calvin had some real frustrations and issues with the masters uh you know years prior he'd basically kind of detonated him after playing poorly here he'd basically said you know how would you feel like if you came to a place where you didn't feel like you were welcome i feel like i'm you know i feel like a slave i feel like i'm a second-class citizen and people just were like whoa like you'd nobody talks about the masters like this and he kind of walked it back and was like yeah i was just in the years later was a bad mood or whatever but just like he the crowd is cheering for him as he walks up 18 and stuff and then he takes his hat off and kind of waves it to the crowd and i mean considering august's history pretty cool moment in 86 you know we're still 10 years away from tiger 11 years away from tiger winning and like the scene of all the the workers in augusta coming out to the veranda and clapping for him and stuff but like kind of cool moments in racial history of like i don't know that august to consider and say that we're they're proud of their history but at least they've evolved over time and i think now our thought of as like a pretty i think of as a pretty like of the majors like a pretty inclusive pretty progressive place yeah yep i think that's fair point that's fair point he was there just that just one shot is essentially peep finishing up on 18 the top 10 did um the the venturi quote i want to add when norman's over the ball he says you're looking at a man who wins an outrider goes down the tent pole in a playoff neither of those would happen so uh he added my gracious what a day had had just everything and i'll close with what he said it just everything seems to happen here and that was the 86 broadcast is never been a greater example how it all just seems to happen it felt like we got a similar thing last year in 25 yeah all right kevin this beefy flashback friday friday thanks to mersany i mean my pay my notes are like i just want to keep going through them i got 15 pages of notes but this is fun we got wrapped up good job i'm appreciate you putting the work we got to go to the masters we're going next week excited to get down there can't wait we'll be providing coverage all week on site subscribe to the newsletter pods obviously it'll be humming uh can't wait i have some good content coming too if you if you're listening to this there's a there's a big story that we're putting out today uh in case we want to hold it back it won't reveal what it is but big profile of a of a contender of the masters i think so yeah excited about how that hope you hope you'll go right from this pod to reading 5 000 words about something that i wrote so you should you should be i know people read less and less but this is worth your time uh it's a fabulous fabulous piece of writing that you put put in the effort for uh to get you in the mood for next week for the masters can't wait to get down there we will talk to you guys on sunday night monday morning probably sunday night we'll have the we'll record sunday have the pod up monday andy who knows maybe an indianapolis or something but we'll be we'll be in august next time i'm talking to you so can't wait to get to it thank you guys for listening to this big flashback friday edition of shotgun start talk to you next week