Giggling about the manosphere, body counts, and cyber trucks
61 min
•Mar 17, 20262 months agoSummary
The hosts discuss the manosphere documentary 'Inside the Manosphere' by Louis Theroux, exploring how male influencers monetize insecurity by promoting toxic masculinity and get-rich-quick schemes to vulnerable young men. They also cover dating dynamics, age gaps in relationships, fashion trends, and various cultural observations about gender, celebrity culture, and online behavior.
Insights
- The manosphere operates as a multi-level marketing scheme targeting insecure young men by blaming women and society for their failures rather than addressing personal development
- Male influencers in the manosphere are primarily motivated by clout and monetization rather than genuine belief in their messaging, using rage-baiting to build audiences
- Power dynamics in age-gap relationships are critical; significant age differences are problematic when the younger partner lacks financial independence and life experience
- Only fans creators have successfully monetized their sexuality in ways that give them control and financial independence, which threatens traditional male power structures
- Cult recruitment tactics follow similar patterns across different contexts: targeting vulnerable individuals, gradual normalization of extreme behavior, and isolation from outside perspectives
Trends
Rise of male-focused online communities promoting toxic masculinity as a monetizable product targeting Gen ZIncreasing awareness of predatory age-gap relationship dynamics and their connection to power imbalancesWomen's financial independence through digital platforms (OnlyFans) disrupting traditional relationship power structuresDocumentary content exposing cult-like behavior in wellness and self-improvement spaces gaining mainstream attentionGen Z rejection of traditional career paths and skepticism toward conventional success metricsFashion trend of mixing masculine and feminine aesthetics (track pants with structured blazers)Growing discussion around toxic masculinity versus healthy masculinity in mainstream mediaStreaming platforms (Apple TV+) expanding into true crime and cult documentary contentInfluencer culture's role in normalizing extreme behavior through algorithmic amplificationYounger generations' awareness of manipulation tactics in online spaces and influencer marketing
Topics
Manosphere and red pill ideology targeting young menMulti-level marketing schemes in self-improvement industryAge-gap relationships and power dynamicsOnlyFans creators and sex work monetizationCult recruitment and indoctrination tacticsToxic masculinity versus healthy masculinityAndrew Tate and male influencer cultureDocumentary filmmaking and investigative journalismAlgorithmic amplification of extreme contentGender dynamics in dating and relationshipsCelebrity culture and paparazziFashion trends and personal stylingMental health and anxiety managementPet ownership and responsibilityWomen's financial independence
Companies
Netflix
Discussed 'Age of Attraction' documentary series examining age-gap relationships and predatory dynamics
Apple TV+
Platform hosting 'Twisted Yoga' cult documentary series about tantric yoga cult in Romania
Audible
Sponsor offering business development audiobooks and titles; mentioned in pre-roll advertisement
Buffalo Wild Wings
Sponsor featuring the 'Pick Six' promotion (two entrees, two sides, two drinks for $19.99)
Revolve
Fashion retailer sponsor offering curated clothing, fast shipping, easy returns, and new Revolve LA label
Celsius
Energy drink brand mentioned in context of listener who works as historian (corrected from earlier episode)
People
Louis Theroux
Documentary filmmaker known for investigative documentaries; created 'Inside the Manosphere' examining male influence...
Andrew Tate
Male influencer and alleged con artist running multi-level marketing scheme selling 'alpha male' courses to vulnerabl...
Mel Robbins
Motivational speaker who commented supportively on podcast clip about anxiety being a question
Paul Wall
Houston-based artist praised for staying out of drama and maintaining positive community presence
Heath Ledger
Actor from '10 Things I Hate About You' mentioned in context of cult documentary discussion
Lily Allen
Artist who performed wearing dress made from receipts of ex-partner's purchases for other women
Zara Larsson
Pop star discussed for maintaining fitness through touring and laughing at own jokes
Audrey Hepburn
Classic actress referenced as style inspiration for pixie cut hairstyle discussion
Demi Lovato
Celebrity mentioned in context of navigating fame as young person and paparazzi interactions
Justin Bieber
Celebrity referenced for yelling at paparazzi and public reactions to his behavior
Quotes
"The manosphere is basically what Gen Z boys consume because of their whole red pill thing. The concept is that you're born as a man with no value. The only way you get value is from listening to us."
Hannah (discussing manosphere ideology)•Mid-episode
"If you're a 35 year old man and you are interested in someone under 30, it's because you know that no girls your age would ever deal with you. They know how dumb you are."
Page (on age-gap relationships)•Mid-episode
"These men are con artists and taking advantage of dumb or just young men that don't know what to do and are being trained by the algorithm."
Page (on manosphere influencers)•Late-episode
"I don't like the position that puts girls in period. Make sure the power dynamic is even."
Hannah (on age-gap relationship dynamics)•Mid-episode
"When you're vulnerable, if someone said drink this person's pee now versus if someone said put it on your skin, very different. But they don't just sit you down and go drink pee."
Page (on cult indoctrination tactics)•Late-episode
Full Transcript
You turned your dating app for pets into a business which just turned over its first billion You turned around the fortunes of a failing football club politely turned down a Nobel Peace Prize and Turned up on Mars in your own reusable rocket While struggling to turn on the dishwasher There's more to imagine when you listen discover business development titles on audible Subscription required see audible.co.uk for terms What's up my galloping giglers? We're all trying to get 10k steps, but we just found out you only need 7k to be healthy But I still try and do 10 no one has time You know how fast you have to walk to do 10k every day Do you want to know it's actually not as hard as you think? But I need to always be holding my phone because that's how I get my steps tracked Which I know everyone's gonna be like all came up. That's why they invented an aura ring. I can't that's against my religion Yeah, that's not your vibe. Also. I don't think they make them small enough for your fingers They probably don't also or a ring kept telling me I was tired so I kept using as an excuse to cancel everything I'm in one of those moods where like every couple of months I'll get in a mood where I'm like Actually, you can't tell me what to do and I'm not going canceled and they're like Contractually and I'm like call my lawyer. I'm not going that's actually when me and you are at our most powerful when we both Enable each other to cancel everything. I feel like I feel like a Gen Z pop star who's been told by her label She has to tour for three years and she goes how about no She's been wild out in the streets and I you want to know what I have two different minds Yes of thinking in one sense. I'm like Yes, the things that people have done to celebrities in the past has caused them a reputable harm Reputable yeah, like literally but there's also a part of like my millennial makeup where I'm like suck it up and look it's not normal to be famous like to process fame however, if you Want to avoid paparazzi and avoid stuff like you don't have to go to fashion shows totally But she probably like I want to go the fashion show But then but then people take videos make making her look like she doesn't want to be at the fashion show right I think she's navigating fame as a young person and it's not perfect and It's chaos, but at the end of the day when you have money when you when you're in her position No one feels bad for you. Also Like Justin Bieber has like yelled at paparazzi Yeah, and we're and we're like everyone's like go off-kings Angry redhead Yeah, I just think she's navigating fame and it's difficult and hard Sorry, I'm in a raincoat today. So like every movement I make I'm just like it's squeaky. Sorry. I'm in a raincoat You love rain. I love When it rains cuz you think you're like Barbie, I mean you are an Italian Barbie. So you're like it's raincoat day Well in my head, it's either God has given everyone collectively a day off Yeah, it's like it's raining. You don't have to go outside Mm-hmm or it's like you could bring out your raincoat that you haven't been able to wear and I've had for a couple months And so I broke out my raincoat it has about When you saw it was raining Did you almost text me to cancel? Did it cross my no because I had my raincoat? Oh, I didn't in when I saw it was raining If my first thought wasn't your raincoat, I would have texted you and said Virtual today It's crazy. I'm dressed like a 50s housewife when it rains. I don't know walking toward me And I was like someone in Connecticut. I'm wearing a kitten heels missing their life You show light blue shirt, of course when I called my uber It's like the one time he doesn't know where to find me So I had to walk in the rain to get him and it was like a whole thing But I what's your little scarf, honey? So it's attached to the t-shirt if you're watching on YouTube I have a accessory It kind of looks like a labia, but in like the best way Yeah, and you could like swing it around kind of giving nautical. Yeah, it's we're definitely on different wavelengths Yeah, as we are totally fine as we are we're recording this before the Oscars Yeah, and we have our own little podcast award show on Monday. Yes, I've picked out a risky dress You don't have a dress. How are you feeling? I'm not feeling great because I really like I feel like I dropped the ball on this because I was like Oh, yeah, it's in a couple weeks. It's in a couple weeks And then it was like it's actually on Monday night a nickel and I was like, oh, right This is how I feel for everything Usually I'm in a shopping mood in the past couple of weeks I haven't been in a shopping mood so like I haven't even gone Well, we went shopping last week and all you got was sunglasses and I was a little worried about you Sometimes I get like that. I was like, hey, can I talk to you for a second? Is everything okay? Give me drama give me like different trends like I'm over it like I've seen it seen it seen it I'm like, I don't care. I'm like, let me just wear my raincoat in peace But you know what they say when you hit rock bottom, that's when you can only go up and that's when change comes Do you see my Robbins commented on my Robbins commented on our clip where I talked about anxiety being a question No, which she's she was like No, I think I'm in an internship with my Robins now We what did she say I forget but it was something like supportive like love this or something because I think Grace made the caption Hannah Mel Robbins burner, but I love that Do you know what else I saw on the internet which okay? Sometimes sometimes the giglers enable me like they're actually really bad enablers Yeah, and they'll be like no in the best way right and I'm like anyway I Dm's for the gig was are so different continue sometimes will DM me and be like I know you can't DM me back because people are crazy But like I know you're thinking right now and I know you're reading this Well if you start it with I'm a gigler we will read it yeah And one girl DMed me and she was like I'm sorry But I just have to call attention that like every time you bring up a man on the podcast Then like I get a tick tock of this man or like something like he's in the news like okay remember when I was like Oh, I love Not Seth Rogen who's the other one? Oh? Yeah, John Hill that's so mean not Seth Rogen, but John Hill, but like you get what I'm saying yes Then it was like he's mean to all all the women that he dates whatever I talked about Paul wall He's everywhere But this is what I don't love like I support men the arts, but like we need to stop putting men on Well, I actually think Paul wall didn't do anything bad. No, I think he's really good for the community of Houston Yeah, I think they love him there, but like all of a sudden I'm everyone's DMing me like all these videos He's like all walls at my wedding I'm like this guy literally was under a bridge and my community theater And also he looks phenomenal he does yeah You know what cuz he's been out of the drama when you're not in drama your skin flourishes That's so true, and he always wears grills. It was teeth are protected I don't know if he still is way actually he might have been in the one video I don't know if you can take them off and then remember when I brought up the guy from 10 things I hate about you and then all of a sudden there was like a big article about how he may or may not be in a cult Not Heath Ledger. No the other guy well speaking of cult yeah, oh wait I do want to say all my DMs are just people going page is gonna be so mad at you Because they know I'm rage baiting so I got the Crocs Lego collab Okay, and I have when I tell you them yes you like your algorithm did I see it you probably through your phone and broke it Or you haven't seen it. Let me see it Or a tick tock Instagram Usually I usually you're the first time you're posting sometimes you go through well. That's not a real shoe It is it's an art piece which you're not wearing that out fashion. How could you wear it out? How heavy is it with a capri? This is like a gag. I should have shown up with them today I think they look heavy. You know what we all do anything for fashion So anyway, my DMs are just full of people being like page is gonna lose it page is gonna be so mad just shaking Um But speaking about cults my favorite thing to talk about I watch the documentary called inside the manosphere Okay, so there's this guy Louis Thoreau Who's known for doing like crazy documentaries about like murderers? He's just like he exposes people but the way he does it is he like he's just like nice British guy Who's inquisitive and he just asks people questions and then lets them talk. I mean what is that? Look he asks a question and then doesn't finish their sentences He just asked it and he sits there and like lets them reveal themselves. That's like his art form So the manosphere doc I watch it with does I was like this is gonna piss me off, but fine. Let's watch it What is manosphere great question? So the manosphere is basically Not on our algorithm the manosphere is what Gen Z boys Consume because oh like their whole like red pill thing the concept is that you're born as a man with no value Okay, which is already like very cultish to be like the only way you get values from listening to us So to get value You have to you can't just be a nine-to-five like loser Which again? There's like a good I cool concept of being like don't get stuck in a bad nine-to-five like chase your dreams like with all cults Like it's it kind of makes a broader in the beginning. You're like I could get into this Don't get Like younger men will be like yeah, and basically how society is just like everything is going against them Which is ironic because that's not how it is for white men, but um, they're told that like Know everything is going against them like women or hate them and all this stuff and so they then follow these like Ultra and I put in print parentheses and quotations baskin looking men who are like I Live my life as a high-value man And if you follow me and you pay for my e-book and you sign up for this There is an you look at you'll get rich quick. So all these guys are Basically taking advantage of like young or insecure lost men To follow them before you proceed. Yes I feel like the world as a whole always like history repeats itself. Yeah, I would say like 10 15 years ago. There was a book that every guy read I was about to this the second hit they started I go this reminds me of the pick up artist. I Remember guys talking about the book And it was basically like in nice terms how to be mean to girls to get them to like you when a guy was telling me about it Basically like makes women seem like these dumb objects that like if you do certain things you can trick them to like you But the guys that it was attracting were guys who like had their own issues and it would be like guys that are in their early 40s now read it in college. Yes, that was like the age group and it targets men who like are Insecure and maybe had some bad experiences with women like women don't like them, but it's not because women are bad people It's because they need to gain their own confidence, but instead of blaming. Do you like how many losers I've loved? Like not No, I've liked a lot of losers they basically say like girls are the problem and if we can eliminate So I thought the documentary was gonna be like wait somebody said to me the other day Oh, well her whole shtick is hating men and I go it's not a shtick. It's not a shtick Meal for somebody wait, can I call you out? What page cooked a meal for a man? Oh No, I literally am I hate men then I go home and I'm treat mine like a Page cooked a meal for a man wasn't gonna tell me Cuz she knew that I'd make fun of her cuz she knows I live that life Like I talk about it and I be about it but she talks about it and then goes home makes a meal and she you literally try to hide it for me and That in that moment I left so hard because you knew I was gonna do this on the pod and expose you You know I went as far to like go on tiktok and be like how else can you make broccoli? Well, I'm dressed like a tradwife No, we've literally we've turned a real scary corner. No Someone else just happened to frickin be there the fact you didn't want to tell me is what's so funny I Have a full intervention for you. I'm like, hey, I heard you cook broccoli for someone that wasn't yourself Okay, so half of its date was like still frozen so he doesn't even count and also if you start clean cream Then you could poison him eventually if you have to hold there's like long game. We're playing so with I've never cooked a meal for a man before I Cooked a lot of meals for des during COVID because I was like going through something Most I've made is like a grilled cheese sandwich like I've never perfect prepared a full dinner just for me and another and a man This is my first time ever and how was it the food in general experience experience was fun It didn't take as long as I thought it was gonna be again Everything was like half frozen so it actually shouldn't have taken long but also from an Italian family We're really raised like guys like girls who cook well like I told you once my mom was like put cookies in the oven Like it was a crazy time. Yeah, I you guys I didn't realize how little it matters if you can cook or not Actually a couple months ago I said something and I was like well I'm not gonna be how like my mom would go to work come home Yeah, make dinner seven jobs and I never thought about it ever and I said I don't know even know where I was That like my dad was like page you're gonna cook and I was like okay Well not every night and then my mom's like with you have children you are going to cook for that and I started crying My dad was like, uh, I don't know what I was like. Oh my god. We just went back to the 1950s I'm not gonna know you guys are stressing me out I'm like all those meal prep things and like tiktok honestly makes cooking so easy the girls have truly figured out So many things like you can do this in ten minutes. Yeah, I'm so excited for a partnership with Buffalo Wild Wings First of all cuz the Buffalo hot tall Strong jaw low voice great beer. He speaks. Yes He's hilarious Only guy that makes me laugh truly one of our favorite things to do together is get the pick six at Buffalo Wild Wings to Wontres two sides two drinks. It's 1999 1999 girl when we're doing gossip sesh I Need multiple options and we're never ordering the same entree because you're eating the rest of mine And why would you eat something you've already had? You have to have eating chemistry to be best friends people don't talk about eating chemistry enough Yeah, like if we both wanted to finish the tots, right that could be a physical altercation Right, and it's like I don't need your tots because I have my wedges. What do you prefer potato wedges or shoe wedges? Oh Potato wedges. Yeah, I got the boneless wings and wedges I got the chicken dippers and tots boneless wings need to be talked about more because When you don't have to like work to earn no no mess no fuss no must no fuss I don't know what it is. I know what you meant. I Love chicken dippers because they're a vehicle for joy. Mm-hmm. It starts already great, and then I decide what sauce do I want? Right, I love the B-dubs dip Mm-hmm. I love saying B-dubs It's B-dubs by me you were gonna say that Come see me on D-B-dubs for the pick six We're gonna put our friendship to the test and ask each other six rapid-fire questions Do you think I prefer ranch or blue cheese ranch? You're right. I think you prefer ranch. I prefer blue cheese You don't know me. How many unread texts are currently on your phone? How many do you think? 15 73 73. I'm gonna say 13 Zero bitch milder spicy chicken wing spicy. I know you want spicy I'm mild how many minutes into an event are you thinking about Irish exiting after you get the photo babe? Yeah, I'm a cool 25 minutes out of everything in our pick six spread Mm-hmm, which item would you want to steal from me the chicken dipper? Let me see your dipping technique with her long-ass fingers Oh What would you steal from me? Obviously a boneless wing. I can't believe you touched one said no and then touched a different one You right bit that one. Oh I was like, oh someone's someone cook here What's your number one dating red flag if he wants to date me? I just I have so many it's like how do you even pick one? What a lovely girls lunch. Thank you for listening to the segment of Giggly Squad sponsored by Buffalo Wild Wings And Marsh madness is coming up, which means it's about to be so fun to go to B. Dubbs and get the pick six It's two entrees two sides two drinks for 1999 that's less than twenty dollars It is exactly So grab your plus one grab your bestie and go prices may be higher in select states So web or app for details, but also men can cook to an uber I can do poorly cook tail to car figured out. So anyway, I thought this documentary inside the manosphere was gonna be this like huge cult of men hating women which it is but He meets these guys and in it You get to see it was like three of these like top top male Manifest fear influencers, okay, we're like connected to Andrew Tate in a way like how old? So the first one is really young. He's like 22 He's okay. He's British. Okay. He is so scared of his mom who by the way raised him single mom Took him private school like had multiple jobs He basically realized that when he says crazy shit online Like rage bait rage bait he gets famous. So you're talking to this guy and you're realizing He says like only fan models are disgusting Like and he's he's saying how men need to be a type of way and all this stuff But as you're talking him you realize he's just saying shit for clout. He literally goes I'm just doing it for clout. The problem is these young boys Seem on the street and they're like you're awesome Meanwhile, he's hanging out with these only fans girls who he's talking shit about But then they're there and he interviews only fans girls and they're like I'm just here because I'm making good money Like I don't give a fuck about him. Yeah, I'm gonna fuck about this They're all kind of in it together, but there's that guy who does this crazy podcast I forget his name, but you've seen it where he brings only fans girls and I asked them like Like what's your body count and then like tells them their pieces of shit? It's that's the guy that like he talks so bad about women and he's married to a woman who like has two baby daddies And he says that that's like the worst thing you can ever do and it's like that's a different one But there's two He brings these only fan girls on and I'm like why are these girls going on when it's just a setup to embarrass them And then I realize they're going on and they're just rolling their eyes because the men who are watching Then sign up for their only fans accounts They're promoting their only fans and then these men are like your pieces of shit whatever the girls are like. Yeah, whatever I don't care. I'm making money off this your email in All these guys are like I would never they're so angry at only fans girls And I think it's cuz they realize these girls are making more money than them Even if they made an only fans It's never gonna gross the same amount because women aren't like women aren't like going no Our women have like going on and watching only fans guys. No, no, no, I think so Messaging her she has a manager messaging you and her only fans accounts you fucking idiot. Yeah, so I digress this guy She just starts interviewing him and he's the guy is like I can have like another wife If I want I want multiple wives and he's like have you told your girlfriend this and he's like, yeah And he's like can we talk to her and he's like uh, uh and he starts freaking out Brings out the girl and the the British guys like are you okay with him having multiple wives and she's like no and the guys starts to panic because like he's getting exposed that like he just lying through his teeth of like the Kind of guy wants to be it's so easy to diagnose them Like I'm not even a therapist and I could diagnose you like I had a boyfriend one time in his 30s Well into his 30s. This man talked about getting bullied in middle school every other day But he brings these girls in the pot He just tells them they're worthless and no one wants to be with them And then he says what kind of guy do you want to be with them the girls like I want them to be over six feet and make Over 300k and he put it in some like made-up algorithm and he's like that's two that's point two percent of man on the planet You'll never get that like it's just crazy thing But then I realize it's all for clout and views these men don't actually think that so then he tells them I don't you record my girlfriend anymore. She ends up breaking up with him Obviously because she's she said to the camera. She goes. Yeah, there's him in front of the camera But then there's who he really is so he starts being like fuck. I'm getting exposed So there's a positive where I'm like, okay, these guys don't actually Think all these horrible things about women But they're con artists and taking advantage of the dumb or just young men that Don't know what to do and are like being trained by the algorithm But these men have to realize these are con men. They're taking your money Andrew Tate makes everyone sign up for a course of like how to be an alpha man That is so Embarrassing but also when you hear ball when you hear him talk you're like I'm so scared right now And also all these men are sphere men arrested for sex Yeah, he's like discussing talking about by the way, I not to brag. I have a brother I've been athlete. I spent a lot of time with a lot of very testosterone men Yeah, I've never seen men who were more obsessed with talking about only fans models All these men do is talk about only fans models like that's the only women they know Yeah, and also like and it's like you've never met them you've never been also You're just so mad these only fans girls don't need you but they're like obsessed only fans How many episodes is this it's I believe two or three. Do you think they're obsessed with only fans because like and? porn stars didn't get this well I'm sure they got so much hate but like before social media I'm saying because it was known that like if you were a porn star Then you were basically getting abused like where the only fans girls can control their Subscription money like they're banking unless they're run by male managers who like form these only fans Wait, I one of the guys runs an only fans agency, but he talks bad about I know but he talks bad about Agent that's a modern day Like I'm not a red pill. I'm at a red pill guy once I didn't know what red pill was at the time and I asked him what his type was and one of the first things he said was they Can't do only fans. I'm like no one brought up only fans. Why are you bringing up only fans? Also like the percentage of women that do do only fans compared to like how many women are alive is like very small Also, like then stop meeting only fans girls like why are all your friends are only fans and you're dating an only fans model It's a sense of control where they hate When women have sex with a lot of guys I think one because it means that we can compare your dick to other dicks Men hate that. Yeah, they hate that you're like have seen shit Yeah, they like you being them being the first one and only one They also want to feel like some type of elite like only I got to have sex with her Well, that's not to get deep but it goes back to like You're like why do guys talk about like 18 and 19 year olds and stuff. Yeah, it's cuz they can manipulate them Did you see the Netflix show age of attraction. I couldn't click it just cuz Hannah I couldn't even get through the first episode I wanted to be like what we learned here today is age actually does fucking matter Like here's the thing If you're in your third like I think it's I think you go through very different phases in your life Your 20s is Insanely different than your 30s your brains not fully formed which is very different from your 40s If you're a 35 year old woman and you meet a 45 year old man beautiful. Oh gorgeous. Oh love it Snored it you guys are on the same page if you're a 25 year old girl and you are dating even 10 years older like I think back that too I'm close closer to the age That my boyfriend was Then I am 226 like when I was 26 I dated someone 36 mm-hmm if you're a 36 year old man and you are interested in someone under 30 It's because you know that no girls your age would ever deal with you They know how dumb you are they know that like you couldn't yeah figure it out And that's why you have to go and press I just had such an epiphany when I was 25 I dated a guy who was 35 insane and I like he was the shit. I thought he was like yeah Yeah, you think he's a buddy was amazing, but I knew after like a year I started having panic attack totally cuz I knew that when I did this guy goal weight Let me tell you never been skinned away Wait, and he was like I'll like a merry by the way. I had no job I had no idea what I wanted to do and he was like perfect this girl's lost and confused Yeah, and in my head I was like I don't know why he's picking me, but I don't feel good about myself around him But he wants to be with me. It didn't make any sense. Thank God my body had the wherewithal to be like this isn't safe Get out. I did write an article once for L Let's add ease so I basically was like look I met my husband when I was 30 He was 44. This is why I think it's working out so far. Yeah, I basically said there's no power dynamic between us Yeah, I'm financially independent Mm-hmm. I know what my career is I've gone to therapy. He doesn't have any power over me We are very equal when you're 25 26 and your brain isn't fully formed and you're with a guy who's financially Powered over you. I don't like the position that puts girls in period So make sure the power dynamic is even Okay, so I was coming to LA and I like last minute panicked that I didn't have any outfits So I ordered a bunch of stuff from revolve. I got one of the cutest like leather jackets It's like very structured and like almost like an ivory color and I'm obsessed with it But the fact that revolve ships so quickly that like I knew I was gonna have it before I had to leave and it totally Used like my panic of like I have no outfits as a tight B girl The amount of times revolve has saved my life like I'll do panic orders like Get five things hope something fits and the shipping and returns are so easy. They get delivered in two days No other place is like that consistent and that easy and then returning it. I'm bad at returning things They make it so so easy and then I don't feel all this pressure when I'm shopping. Yeah, give me a return label That gets me going and I love a curation and I feel like okay I'm going on vacation. I go to revolve's vacation recommendations and I see what the girls are buying what people recommend I love their curated stuff of what all the brands I should wear You don't have to go through like a thousand pages of clothes They basically like broke it up for you for exactly what you're looking for. We love organization Also, they just launched their own label, which is so amazing Revolve LA and it's just like chic. It's cool. It's modern. It's elevated when you're going to a dinner or an event where there's photos It's a brand to watch for sure. 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So don't miss out You turned your dating app for pets into a business which just turned over its first billion You turned around the fortunes of a failing football club politely turned down a Nobel Peace Prize and Turned up on Mars in your own reusable rocket While struggling to turn on the dishwasher There's more to imagine when you listen discover business development titles on audible Subscription required see audible.co.uk for terms It's so interesting that it's just so Normalized that like if a guy is 36 and he's like, yeah, she's 28. That's like the perfect age Okay, what about the other what about the 36 year old woman? Why do you feel like you're too good? For women your one thing. It's not beauty because when I was 22 I was ugly I'm the best looking. I'm the best looking I've ever looked With a spray tan right now But these men see 21 year old girls and they go she's not gonna clock my shit Yeah, she's not gonna clock my we're in your 30s a mile away. You're like now Yeah, no, I'm not getting out of bed for this also. We're not going on a yacht No, I'm not going to your fucking party where I have to be up all night girls in their 30s Like I'm too tired. Yeah, I'm not going on your orgy. I'm not having an orgy the third guy He's this like older man. He pulls up in a Lamborghini And he's like, but this is not what my life is about. It's about being a good honest person It's not about the flash and the glamour, but he's wearing like a three-piece suit um in miami, it's like 90 degrees and He basically is like I cheated on my wife, but she's not allowed to cheat on me Perfect and all this stuff and he's one of the top guys When Andrew Tate did his like multi-level marketing scheme, there's like several guys that got on early and did well off of it So it's classic like see that guy did well. Why can't you do well? And it shows these other guys who are big fans of him. This guy is no job And he's being told not to take a nine to five because that's like the matrix That's like the system that like holds you down So he's living in a car and just paying for Andrew Tate's ebooks What? Because because it's a multi-level marketing scheme. So these men think like I just have to and they're they're like I have no value. I have to gain value. I have to be strong. I can't let women whatever and they're just hurting themselves Do you want to know the worst part about this? What? Is the fact that they're catering to all these like young Gen Z men that in like 15 years everyone's going to be like where what why didn't their moms raise them? But at some point it's going to get blamed on us Also, these are the men that eventually are going to run our country because god forbid we get a woman God forbid God forbid a woman goes anywhere near this is so over done But there was a really funny tic-tac where a guy was like, you know men love to start wars But if we were president none of the countries would be talking to each other Just be quiet and calm Like we don't talk to we don't talk to Sorry, I don't talk to russia Okay, I saw her. I know what she's about. She knows that we've met before I don't forgive. I don't forget She acted like she didn't know me. I'm like you saw me at the un meeting You're not in my group chat anymore. And if you talk to russia, I swear to god, I'll never talk to you again If I see you with russia, I swear to god, there's gonna be a problem by problem I mean, I'm just never gonna talk to you gonna block you wait I was getting into a fight with someone the other day about just like men versus women whatever and he said to me He was like, okay. Well, who's fighting in all the wars men or women like who's protecting in all And I was like you mean the war that all the men Started like what are you talking about? Yeah, why would we go fight? We're not involved Yeah, this is not my fight. This is not my fight that you started over your oil for your big ass cyber truck Not my war don't even have a driver's license barely. I don't need gas for my car Q cyber trucks take gas or no, they're like oh, they might be electric but again Again the president's against electric vehicles, so I'm not getting into this right now I also think they're so well, I've never scary. I've never seen a cyber truck with a family in it. I'm just gonna say that It's always just one No, it's just one alone 60 year old dude, and I'm like, I hope you're happy I hope you're happy. That's so true. I've never seen my neighbors Never seen the happy family and never seen a four-year-old jump out of a cyber truck never seen a cute dog Never seen a labrador retriever just head out of a cyber truck having the time of his life No, it's some dark sinister energy in that cyber truck. Did you see lily allen performed? And did you see like her dress? No, okay She wore this dress to perform and it looks like um It almost like looked like a flag But so it's like it wraps her and then she has someone like holding it like pulling it like taut So she's like turning and it's like unfolding. Honestly. It was an art Like piece truly and I was like looking at the comments and like looking at people saying like what is the dress It she made a dress Of all of the receipts From her ex of all the things he would buy other women She went on stage and she like unraveled I was like singing and you could see like all then like if you zoom in you can tell it's like a receipt If lily allen doesn't win a Grammy Next year i'm gonna be really mad. I think it's the best album of the year also, I rarely read comments, but I someone was mad at me because They basically were like you said that charlie xx inspired lily allen Didn't mean it like that. I think everyone gets I don't even know when I said either But I think everyone like gets inspired by things going on. But yes lily allen's that girl She's been doing it forever and I think she should win the Grammy like for sure I just thought it was so genius Also, he I think he has like a new show out or something and she's just like staying on his neck So long story short with the manosphere it and turned out being less about like, oh, there's this Culture wherever a man hates woman. It's more. Hey, there's like men That realize that they can monetize dumb men by saying rage bait shit about women So that they can blame other things for why you're not doing well in life. Yeah, it's brainwashing I do have to say everyone. They're really mad about like toxic masculinity. Masculinity is not toxic The opposite of toxic masculinity is not being weak It's not being toxic be a good strong masculine man Don't hate on women If you want to sleep with a man sleep with a man, I love it Don't you don't have to hate women, right? Just because that's your urge Also, a lot of them do just want to be gay. Yes And like we would let them like I don't know why they're why they're being mean to us We're a safe space before you download andrew tate's ebook download grinder and just see if that releases anything The amount of time you get two marveritas in me. I'll ask anyone's boyfriend. I've asked my own I've been like you could tell me I won't tell anyone I wonder how many girls have had that moment Another cult documentary which I just started it's it's slow, but it's it's dark It's on apple, which is new a lot of them aren't on apple. It's called twisted yoga Okay, and again, it always starts with a girl being like I'm spiritual I think there's I'm trying to find my purpose in the world and these yoga classes are helping me with like spirituality like it starts Hey, honest and sweet and then next thing, you know, she's in romania in a um a building that's locked up and they're Doing tantric sex poses and drinking each other's pee. So anyway It starts about love and peace and butterflies and then it gets sinister Notice the similarity between all these is when you're vulnerable If someone said drink this person's pee Now if someone said put it on your skin Very different you said how much I'd say what kind like where exactly could I do it on my neck how hydrated do I have to be for this But this thing they don't just sit you down and go drink pee It's this long process where it's like getting connected to your your femininity and connected with others And then next thing, you know, like two years later Eyes and I'm trying to drink a uti That is so vile Culture scary. So I'm I'm only one episode in which I think people like because they hate when I tell them What happens in the doc, but all I said memories is history guys They're like Ted Bundy got caught Wait, that's so true. But see I'm an enabler because I like when you tell me the ending because then I'm like checked off my list I don't even have to go watch it. My friends told me they're like both towers went down Sorry, that was dark. That was dark. I'm a new yorker. I'm allowed to say that We're allowed to you guys weren't even there. We saw it. Um, Also, remember when I said the girl messaged me who works for the Celsius or whatever the census? Yeah, that was also wrong. Cool. Um, she's actually a historian for the smithsonian Okay, you really fight it out. But also the giglers are so the giglers are exactly a beekeeper in argentina This the giglers have the most amazing jobs Historian for the first of all, what is the smithsonian? It sounds important. The smithsonian is a museum the smithsonian It's but like what's in the smithsonia like the monalisa? No, the smithsonian is like, um, george washington No, the smithsonian is like anything. Oh like books. No, okay, like like like the NASA stuff Like the planet night at the museum No paintings. It's air and space. That's what I meant is the worlds are just research complex featuring 21 museums This is a i so this could be completely wrong. Um, and then this is about misinformation Oh, it has the airspace museum, but also has museum. Whatever. It's just it's research There's smithsonian locations in your oh, it's all of them. It's American history natural You guys we learned so much on this pod I thought it was just air and space. So anyway, the people who listen to this podcast Research history. So if that makes you feel better, I'm so proud of them. I'm literally so fucking proud of them How are you? I like that people listen to us because they're like, uh, I need a break I need I need to listen to so many facts that I can just laugh so much facts and high pressure. I just need People making no sense. Um, I need two people interrupting each other for an hour. Yeah Let's do something page coded because you went off off So my treasemate commercial came out the other day. Wait a second one. You already had one. Yeah, this was my new one This is my this was my new like christian seriano devil wears Prada vibe one But when we the day we were filmed, this is so girly the day we were filming it It was just I brought my parents like it was just like the girliest shoot ever It was like we're doing hair we're doing makeup and like vogue was there and just all these different things Like that continue and so we're in the Like dressing room. We had like a break. I don't know. It was like lunch and my assistant was like Should I chop my hair off and we were like, oh my god, do it like chop your hair off So she literally had the longest hair ever. She's like very cool. Jenzy chops it into a bob during the shoot. Yeah I'm a really easy boss Wait, you're like stop production. My assistant needs to cut a bob. I'm like go get a facial, babe Like what are you doing here? You know like do whatever you want. You're like actually can we stop? I don't like that girl's hairdo. Can you change it? And you're like, she's not even on set and you're like, I don't like it I'm like, so she cuts her hair in the middle of the shoot. We're obsessed. We love her bob How long did that take? Like 10 minutes In true bob fashion Everyone gets a bob and then they're like, what if I Chopped a little more off Okay, my assistant now Chopped up to here literal pixie. Does she look good Hannah? I'm obsessed And I'm like Hannah's gonna be so mad at me because it took It took one other red head to be like, what about a pixie cut? I can't stop looking at pictures of lily collins I'll start crying if you do it because I'm like, wait, what if right before I went to Italy? I just chopped All my hair off. Well, I personally want you at your wedding Start like this. Okay, then you chop the pixie party the rest of the night. How much can I make about me? You're like, it's already gonna be too much In the middle of this wedding, I work for the honeymoon. Maybe when you go to somewhere really hot. I just chop you chop it Um, can I just say I've been wrong in my life before I want to press that many times not many times But a lot of time people perceive it wrong because it's ahead of its time and I say it Not in the right way. However, people you may joke, but you never play So when I first threw it into the ether that you should get a pixie. Yeah, the internet was a gasp They said Hannah hates page. You're a bad friend Hannah's horrible She's sabotaging her and I said sorry I have a vision that you guys can't see Yeah, sorry that you believe in my face. You guys barely know. I know good bone structure Now I'm thinking all those people don't believe in my face They don't think I know the whole You don't think like because my thing is I just see Audrey Hepburn Thank you I see Audrey Hepburn and when your face is so fucking chiseled and snatched like yours Like when you pull your your hair back people lose their minds Because they've never seen so many so many angles of a cheekbone This is my weird way to press Pull my hair back everyone goes. Oh, no, I love when you pull your hair back stop it You know I do stop it. You're doing a ponytail this week. No, I'm really stressed out You've been stressed about it for literally a full seven days. I think I have to do a ponytail It's like the dentist office. I'm like, I have to do a ponytail on Tuesday You're like the dress I need to do a ponytail And then you do what we tell me when you're doing a ponytail as if you just got results from the doctor You're like, okay, and I have to get my wisdom teeth out. I'm like, I have to get a ponytail on Tuesday You're never gonna believe this I have herpes when people do slick backs and they have a flat forehead And a wider head on top. It's it looks amazing I have a pointy head So when they do it like you can't even see it like you can't it just it exposes too much Anyway, so You're you're pondering a pixie not like demi more pixie like not shaven No No, which but not even like I mean like okay, I see a cute side bang The way my assistant chopped it is like it literally stops. I'm gonna try and like it literally stops like right here Like right at my ear. That's not a good representation But I also see it with like a little side bang like a I would go swoop Side part forever. Yeah, like I wouldn't be able to do it down the middle because that would look insane I feel like but I would do just drastic side part all the time. You're leaving my barbecue. I want to cut you up and I flame A sharpie Just knocking I'm hanging from something. It's like she left me here The way you treated your toys and the way I probably treated my toys So, you know that millennial, um Thing where it's like a fairy that you pull it and it spins and then goes into the air I was breaking shit. I was like how far can we get this to go? I also was obsessed with like little horse like Not my little pony my little pony. I liked my little pony. I think I did wreckage to my little pony See I was a realist even as a child. I was like fairies aren't real can't fly Ponies not that small to get out of my face. I hated barbies I hated babies. I wasn't like playing with a baby. I'm like, I don't not a mother. I had four kids And if my mom didn't put them in car seats, I was like and they'll die You're a horrible mom. They'll die. You're literally Riba McIntyre A working girl who works two jobs and never said Speaking remember the last episode we talked about cigarettes and actually when I was a child because my grandma smoked so many cigarettes One day I literally sat down and said I have to have a cigarette and my mom like looked around and people were like Oh my god, she was like she doesn't mean it. She's obviously four. She's not sitting down to have a cigarette I was like no I need one mom. I need one mom Yeah, I actually need one and my grandma had bought me candy ones So I ripped one out of my purse my barbie purse obviously Because what else is in my purse but candy cigarettes and I sat on the sidewalk and I literally fake puffed the cigarette My mom was like, she's not coming over anymore. I remember my mom got me an address With a matching purse and a matching hat. That was my favorite fuming She was like hold this for one second got the photo and then I think I took the hat It was like in a pool somewhere and then I like threw everything was and then I was rolling around Whenever there was a matching accessory. I thought genius. I refused to wear hats from the second I came out of the home They put a little knit hat on me and I got my fingers in it and I started it was crazy I loved wearing hats cleaned my apartment the other day. I'm not too bragg Because it rained the other day. Yeah, that's what I did within about an hour I messed it up again. Mm-hmm, and it reminded me of another nickname I had It's not not quads illa Um, they used to call me hurricane hannah because I would come into a place and I would just like wreck it and It's at the point where at first I was mad at myself and now I'm like you're I have a skill you know I like to describe it as Like I throw my shoes off mistaken that like you could have possibly taken ballet As a child like that's how I think of it. I'm like panel walks into a place and like even the way you walk like Like your you don't mean to have heavy footed, but you're stomping it No, I used to like when I was at a tennis academy I live with like six other kids and they would be like, why do you walk so heavy so heavy and I was like, sorry My ass is fat. Like I'm literally pure wedding in I'm like, I haven't even touched the ground yet I actually think you would have been phenomenal at gymnastics. No, I I eat too much Oh, yeah, and I'm too tall. I'm 5'7 in my torso. I've thought about it But I mean yeah the emotional abuse is similar to tennis though. I look he feel like doing gymnastics makes them short like No, because because they get stunted from all the working out when I was in middle school I really wanted to do gymnastics because I really wanted to be a cheerleader You want to wear the unit and then I said to my mom, okay, but it stunts their growth I can't want to be able to model and I wanted to have long legs. So I literally quit gymnastics I love that you had a vision for yourself from a young age. You're like, this doesn't work with my 10 year plan I've always had a vision. Where'd you get that information that stunts your growth? I think I heard it somewhere and I never forgot it the same way I heard like demi demi More used to wash her hair with ebion water. I never forgot it I read one time somewhere if you ended your shower in cold water, your hair would be shiny Like I would get random facts and then I would just like Live by them. I miss problematic magazines in the 90s. Me too. Like what a simple time does your orgasm matter? How to get to the right hand job when he's mad at you like at this point. I'm like, I'm not sure How to lose that fat that's everywhere that makes everyone hate you lose the last 15 pounds So you can hang with your friends People were asking um, zara larson. Yeah, who I love how she has such a good body and She's like on tour. Well part of me every night. I like she basically was like, I don't I just laugh a lot. Hmm, which is very gigli-scold code and I loved but then I'm also like she's dancing six hours a day She's like She's like she's like a gal at my own jokes profusely sweating up there like doing crunches. Also, she did admit like abs are genetic Like I don't have abs right now, but genetically I do I'm almost five months. No uti Write that us weekly But the other day I felt just like a little like I was like, could that be and I literally said to myself no, it's not you're being crazy go chug a water But do you want to know what I think and I've had a couple girls do you get me? so I've been trying to like Track and like see The other day I drank not one not two but three full coca-colas throughout the day Hey, watch what you I swear to god everyone's about to get diabetes because of you. What are you gonna say right now? What are you gonna say right now? I think the sugar Like gives me the feeling like I'm getting one, but I'm not actually getting one Honestly, you're saying it was bad that you chugged three coke 100% Okay, I thought you were saying if you don't want uti's chug three And the only reason I chugged three coaks and in my defense they were all in glass bottles. It's a free country Right first of all you were free. Well, it's my free. Well. I'm an adult. I bought those you're going off like she partied Why went off it was a Friday night? I was like, you know what I'm drinking all the glass coca-colas in the house You're like give me another one bartender You know those like sometimes you get those cards at like bars where it's like you've been cut off like just leave now You just like give me one You're like enough of the fucking coca-cola Sometimes you just need one, you know, I was having chips and dip. What was I gonna do have milk with it? Yeah, like there are certain things you eat you have to drink soda chips and dip Pizza chinese food you have I have to have a ginger ale when I have chinese food my like The reason I'm solutionals because when I drink ginger ale I think I'm healthy Well, it is I'm like I need a bigger stomach It's good for your stomach. I like looking everyone around me. I'm like, sorry. I'm in a health kick right now If I'm having any type of sandwich, I must have an iced tea like a turkey sandwich I have to have an iced tea. Yeah, if I'm eating mexicans sometimes I have to have a lemonade Speaking of drinking and peeing The tiktok really made me laugh recently. Have I recently I mean this morning? Um this comedian hilti bowen she was talking about men's and women's restrooms. So obviously I'm like I'm in What's this gonna say? And she goes when men built restrooms I love the way the same algorithm. It's so funny. She was in men built women's restrooms They were like, okay, well, but toilet and I guess we'll put walls next to it and enclose it We'll put another one next to it another one next to it another one next to it. Good. Okay for the men's room They're like a split toilet wall next to it and close it Then I guess we should do some urinals What if we just did no wall? No doors no doors and what if we just Put them all next to each other. No, it's low-key gay Like it's actually and like the guys were in the comments being like we stare straight. I'm like do you? And it's also like why even tempt also imagine going to the woman's bathroom and like Peeing next to a woman without a wall like that's crazy intimate. Okay, but I actually think it makes more sense For like the women's room to not have walls then it does the men's room because we're not like Flinging out a another. Well, we're just more intimate with each other as a whole. Yeah, like that's the only time Once they leave a sports team or a locker room. That's it. They're never undressing in front of each other ever again Yeah, like when else are they what's it called when you have something coming out of your body? A limb. Yeah, like we're not pulling out An outer extremity. Yeah, like we're men are like pulling it out. Yeah Men like peeing next to each other for sure Is it's the strangest thing because all they have to do is put a little wall like a tiny wall some have Like little short walls that are like next to it But a lot of them don't like tiled walls a lot of them don't it's also interesting because it's like oh, so you can't aim Oh, that's so interesting because when we're at home It's all over the place, but oh you actually can aim on a perfect Like little circle when we're at home someone had a water balloon fight The manuscript documentary the guy goes well look around me Men invented everything that was his like statement of like why men are superior. We invented people Okay, and top that we literally invented you Like you came from someone's vagina And then this woman did a list of like all the things that women invented which was actually crazy Like it was like wi-fi a woman invented like it was like all these things But then it got me thinking of how many things men invented that like their wife told them about Here's another thing that actually really that like reminds me of it There's I feel like there's so many women that will be like okay, whatever I don't need to get married all have a child either all adopt a child or I'll get a sperm donor Do you ever hear of stories? Mr. Let's preserve my legacy. Do you ever hear of stories of straight men in their straight men because I'm I'm discounting the gay men because there's a lot of gay men that have children Straight men that have a kid on their own That's not forced upon them in some in some weird situation No, do men ever go and say I need a surrogate because I want to have a child And we would never force a man to have a child when he doesn't want one. No, we don't If anything we want to take them away. I'm not controlling men's bodies Crazy isn't that so interesting and another thing I thought about now mind you I'm a joint deep Maybe a joint and a half And I'm like, why doesn't anyone ever talk about cats getting ticks? Like there's so many stray cats and they're out on the streets and you never hear about them getting ticks But you let your golden retriever out one time And you're like my golden retriever has Lyme disease and you literally gave it to the whole house So I looked it up. I was like, why doesn't anyone talk about cats getting ticks when there's way more I feel like there's way more strength And google said Because cats have such an intense grooming process let every couple of hours They wouldn't even let the tick attach to them. They have already gotten it off I mean, I'm like and another reason that women the only time a cat will get fleas when like they're out like Scared and fending for themselves and you have to save them. Well, this reminds me of when we were fostering dogs Which I love to do but I don't know about dogs and it was 9 p.m. And I had to take the dog for a walk and I was like this is annoying. It's pitch black. I'm alone. I'm scared I'm like this dog's not going to defend me if someone has a treat So literally My algorithm is literally so dog-aiding. It's a bunch of videos I'm literally so excited. It's a bunch of videos of the people. Okay, let me come down I think so much it's gonna be so not funny now because I laugh too much But they put like wet food in a bowl Yeah, and they get kidnappers to come in and as they're putting the wet food in the kidnappers take them and fake beat them up And the dog goes up and looks and this is like 10 different dogs in the same situation and they look and then the dog keeps Eating like doesn't care and they're like pretending to like Cut like stab them and the dog just keeps eating the wet food the dog finishes looks back keeps trying to get the wet food And that's men That's literally men I'm gonna go lightheaded from love. He's why definitely would have clawed someone's eyes out when I was walking this dog at 9 p.m It's pitch black. I'm scared. It's cold. I'm like, this is not a long term life to live Butters inside just waiting for me cozy in the bed and I'm like sorry I have to walk this wild animal outside in the dark And then the dog start is just like Fucking around in the grass. I don't know what he's doing and I'm just like letting him have fun Because that's what they do. I'm like, I hope you had fun. I'm freezing I walk back and the dog smells horrible And I realized the dog was rolling around in other dogs poop And des was like Like how did you not see that happening? I was like, what in any logical world would a dog see another dog's poop? No, it's poop and go let's roll around in this and he's like that's what dogs do and I'm like That's insane and then watching him took like forever. It was the whole night was ruined No, honestly that is I wasn't like so oh my god I'm getting a cat because I hate dogs. I was getting a dog and then I was like, what am I saying? I'm not getting up In the cold dead of winter and taking a dog out ever Also, I have a friend who their dog's like ruining their sex life because every time they have sex the dog freaks out and starts barking This is the last thing I'm saying about dogs and cats. This is why I love cats when there's a thunderstorm Cats are like cool. That's my ancestor That's my storm dogs freak out. They're barking. They think they're under attack. They're under attack. They're scared They're like if I'm uncomfortable I want to make everyone uncomfortable There was a thunderstorm this morning when I tell you butter was Mesmerized butter sat there and was looking at like gorgeous. She was like this is a piece of art This is Michelangelo. She's watching the lightning. She's looking at all the wet people outside and she's just taking in like an observational comic Because she's the wherewithal to know it's outside And she's inside Where the dogs are like they're coming to attack. It's like Have a treat shut up No, we didn't mean to go this hard on the men and the dogs is pod I actually started this pod and I was like we've been talking too bad about men. Let's have a light So you brought up just the worst documentary of all time. I started this pod. I was like guys I'm in a raincoat. It's gonna be such a fun day. Let's end with something nice Fashion. Yeah, I'm obsessed with this trend. Do you like it the whole wrong shirt with track pants? So you wear track pants with like a work shirt? Love It's do you have any advice for pulling it off correctly? Because I feel like this is something that I might wear and people will get like upset Well, it's like kind of the same thing when people are like you're wearing an outfit and then just do like the weirdest shoe Yes, which I love I would just say it's something really masculine and then something really feminine love So like a roughly like a frilly Shirt and then it's just like an adidas track pant. Yes, cute. Very cute. Okay, cool I feel like I'm leaning towards that for spring. Anyway guys look forward to our outfits coming out on monday page hasn't picked her yet She's very stressed. I picked mine, but I might have to work on tail. This is coming out. This will already be out But my daffy lemmy collab Which you want to know what? Needs a whole podcast episode so catch that on friday. We'll talk about it. Don't miss it. Bye You turned your dating app for pets into a business which just turned over its first billion You turned around the fortunes of a failing football club politely turned down a Nobel peace prize And turned up on mars in your own reusable rocket While struggling to turn on the dishwasher There's more to imagine when you listen discover business development titles on audible Subscription required see audible.co.uk for terms