From 30 for 30 podcasts Brian Pada senior defensive lineman from Miami gunned down The key to this case it's blind I before he died he was on a phone arguing what's about this might be a hit you want to truth We had a killer monster murder at the U listen now Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbott. It's national hugging day Tony have you hugged anybody today? I'm Tony Cornheuser the UPS guy. It was awkward. Yeah, maybe a fist bump. Yeah, I shouldn't have gone and I ain't quite like that No, no, but I packages I would yeah, I was so happy like things were being delivered to the house and maybe so happy So I figured it's national hugging. Yeah, I'm gonna do something like that. Why not? Welcome to PTI boys and girls in today's episode the Yankees bring back Cody Belinger John Harbour and Joe Shane claimed to be on the same page and Steve Young joins us for five good minutes But we begin today with a struggling New York Knicks playing New York's other team the terrible Brooklyn nets Off tonight in Madison Square golf since winning the NBA cup the Knicks are 7 and 11 Including two and nine lately. They were booed at home the other night losing to Dallas And then Jalen Brunson called the players only meeting as former Nick Michael Ray Richardson once observed the ship Be sinking well about how badly do the Knicks need to win tonight? No, you know not all that badly. They're gonna get one They're playing Brooklyn they stink they they really think and they're not playing them over across the bridge They're playing them in Madison Square Garden over Rosalind's famous arena where they will be Brooklyn tonight by 2728 points. That's just the way that's gonna happen And it's not gonna take any pressure off the Knicks the Knicks have plenty pressure They came into the season with the pressure Boston is without his best player most if not all of the season the Indiana Pacers another conference finalist out I mean without their best player all or most of the season So the Knicks came into this It expected to win the Eastern Conference at the very least and they see you're you don't you think I'm showing too much faith in the Knicks I mean, I just think you're part of a crew that that has this drum beat going on that you see on television all the time that forgets about Cleveland just ignore his Cleveland ignores Detroit ignores everything and ignores the Knicks history Which is not to win? I'm looking at what they got now is so is Jalen Brunson. He's looking around. He know they don't have I know you and I agree on this we haven't talked about it That's exactly what I want to say okay Okay, because there is trouble there right now and the trouble is on defense and so people look around knowing the tips Was a defensive guy and they say well? This is what you get when you fire that guy and Mike Brown started off very good. They look very good for a while But last year with Thibado the Knicks were 13th in the league on defense. That's fine That's good enough this year in the last 18 games there 29th They're next to last in points allowed per 100 possessions. They're allowing a tremendous amount of point Dallas Isn't any good they were up 75 45 you know, legitimate. Okay, but here's the other part of the trouble Mike Players only meetings with a first-year coach that doesn't reflect well And but I believe this Mike I believe they won that dopey cup and they decided that meant something And I think they're cruising I agree with you completely You know what Tony, but you know there are dog days of the NBA and we are in them you talk about it all the time We're in the dog days. We're not gonna get out until the Super Bowl It's like it's like the NFL season means something to NBA players They're gonna wake up on February 9 and go. Oh wait a minute. We're we've only got 25 games left The mix are gonna be okay. I'm not saying they're gonna be down Detroit ultimately in the east. I'm just saying they're gonna be okay Let's move to baseball where Cody Belinger will return to the yanks for five years 162 million dollars. That's a lot But nowhere near the 240 million dollars for four years the Dodgers are giving Kyle Tucker Overrated Kyle Tucker in my book the athletic reports that baseball owners are raging About the size of the Dodgers payroll and that deal and we'll push for a salary cap with 100% certainty Is this something the owner should be doing so me personally? I think a salary cap is fine as long as there's a floor as long as you make sure that teams And I'll name a few the Marlins the pirates the a's the white socks the nationals As you make sure they're trying to be competitive and spending money and if you want to balance that out a little bit Maybe you make the luxury tax even more punitive than it is right now, you know, but Look I'm not against the Dodgers I admire the Dodgers they spend a lot of money, but they spend the money wisely Rob Manford is happy with the Dodgers. He has said we like a great team in a big city But he represents the small team. This is this is the whole point He represents all the owners even the cheap ones even the dumb ones. Okay, so so he's got to be challenged It feels like most of the owners are asking for a set of guardrails to guarantee a competitive balance And they believe that a salary cap will do that it works in other sports It does at baseball They've gone without it and one reason we got to acknowledge is that the baseball union is a hundred million times stronger than the other two unions Combined of the three you're never gonna go for it. They're gonna they'll miss a whole season And so I think the Tucker deal is the tipping point a guy was never hit 35 home runs Who's never hit 300 and he is now being treated like Henry Aaron are you kidding me? I don't see it that way Other owners look by the way Dodgers haven't made any mistakes in the people I brought in there's two ways of looking at this All right, you're looking at Dodgers owner. I know and the Dodgers owner I understand this purple and I know here's the problem and he has done the right thing every step away with his team The Metz spent a lot of money. There's two ways of looking at it. Okay, look The baseball players are never gonna go for no recap. They're thrilled that Tucker got this money They're thrilled when anybody gets this money because they're saying maybe I'll get the money the next time and and And it's a shame Because baseball has been great lately and they could very well. No, we're looking at it's an in the DNA of what players get at They've done that's only more this is a lost season coming if the owners the next one Yeah, right if the owners truly yeah, 100% certain which I'll be insistence of a salary cap Work stuff there's got to be a way there's got to be a way to make the floor such that the players will say I'll live with this the ceiling may not be here, but if the floor is it's got to be away the New York football giants Introduce John Harboy yesterday as their new coach He said he was seeking a championship for a great city who's gonna argue with that But there's a secondary issue that's interesting that is that Harboy will report directly to ownership not to general manager Joe Shane Harboy said quote I think it's overblown the way it works the main thing is it works and we work together on quote will bonus Harboy right That who has the final say here is being overblown. No, it's not being overblown You know, I am steadfastly Against any sort of coach Being the final say All right, and I know that part sales has a great line about shopper for the groceries Yeah, but there was still some guard rails to use a well There's a totally ownership has the final say, but you need a general manager to Tony It doesn't work. We know this in Seattle that when the head coach was reduced to just head coach Then went from also ran to winning a Super Bowl and should have won another one now All I'm saying is you cannot have that structure whether you are John Harboy or anybody else I am not having if I'm the owner I am not having a general manager who's just a figure head who doesn't have the same coach You're referring to in Seattle to I'm talking like homegrown. Yes, okay. All right my home great look So we differ in this there are great general managers out there though. We cannot name them. We can name great coaches Andy Reid is a great coach. Sean McVeigh appears to be a great coach. He'll be able to check was a great coach Can you name the general managers when they were there? No, you can't and because it's not maybe they were doing their jobs You don't need to be able to name them. I believe that ownership always has the final say I also believe this the John Harboy when he coached at Baltimore reported to Steve Beshadi the owner So he is used to this Joe Shane who's the general manager They're paying Harboy $100 million over five years. You think they're paying Shane that let me go through this You know what Shane's record is this general manager giants to this point. It's 2240 Well, you're saying he's the GM you know who you know one Barclay He also had to answer to it. I know this. Who Ozzy knew some he wasn't there in the last four five Did he win? Well, he's a Harboy win with Ozzy knew some or without Ozzy continued to make the playoffs Way to fire you know what I think he's good. He's out. Here's what I think about Joe Shane I'm sure he's a fine man. Well, I do That's that question is Joe Shane, you know one of the things I think is this he shouldn't worry He should understand why Harboy won't necessarily report him and he shouldn't worry when they have a meeting of ownership And Harboy and him he should ask people do you want coffee or tea? He should be happy to have the job Will we visit then when the giants to 45 and why are the new Ravens when the and under achieving In in in when it comes to our ball doesn't change them in three years. He will be fired and if they make great in three years He will get the yes three three years. Let's take a break. All right coming up how you all will Jared stood him really be When he starts for the Broncos against the Patriots. We're gonna ask Steve Young We'll also ask him about the degree of difficulty on Caleb Williams Incredible touchdown pass Sunday night. I haven't that structure. I'm not having it You're fine with with the gee is he the right GM? I don't know for the fact all about him I'm not defending him. I'm talking about the structure. I'm seeing John Harboy. I didn't get it done You have to have straight to the old right GM with the right coat. Yes, pardon the interruption is brought to you by Tax act. Let's get them over with 911 where is the emergency? It's the middle of the night in a small town on the Jersey Shore Someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge a search gets underway for the missing driver 19-year-old Sarah Stern is it a missing person is it a suicide at this point nobody knows Old friendships buried cash and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life I'm juju Chang from 2020 and ABC audio Listen now to bridge of lies wherever you get your podcasts Let's get back into the NFL with our great friend the man who took my suggestion to tuck and run when he had a lane All the fame quarterback Steve young. Let's start with this Jared Stidem of the Broncos has not thrown a pass in a game for two years Is the lack of game action? Is it a huge deal or can it somehow Be made up for in practice reps? No No Like there's a speed of the game and we all the guys that played a lot in the playoffs There's a preseason speed There's a first game of the year speed. It's more like playoffs and then there's a regular season and then there's a like first round of play a second round By the time you get the championship game the intensity the focus the new rock needs famous right because you made a speech and everyone emotionally went got That's what the championship game brings out is this intensity that you cannot get ready for even if you played all year It takes a second to kind of get used to it and like and so he's running into a wall And that's why grateful at Sean patents there with him They've got to be careful because you lose championship games any playoff game you lose so quickly a couple of bad series a couple of turn over It's over and so he needs to be very very careful that he's not the reason they lose That's the that's his his goal is just don't make if we lose just make it not about not that he's trying to Prevent Accountability, but just like I don't want to take away from the team. I don't want to be the reason If they're you asking him to be the reason they win that's That's Rudy stuff, right? That's who she's that's insanity, right? That's been doves of stuff now I just kid but wait too much to ask How can be kind of lean in in a championship game and thrive you can't do that from a standing start no way Well, it's not too much to ask of Matthew Stafford presumed MVP Who struggled against the bears and Steve I'm wondering If you saw anything on Sunday night and so do you feel that The Seattle could replicate or do to give him problems again Yeah, if it's you know minus five I with the ball you saw the ball when people they threw it okay But it was you know jumping off people's it's slick. It's it feels odd the cold the cold air It's just minus five windshield or whatever it was is different and so in a in playoff atmosphere minus five It was Matthew Stafford in those conditions and I think he managed through it which he's a vat he gets that Um, and I don't think that's gonna happen again. He gets a a decent day up in in Seattle Now I will say Matthew has fought The vulnerability to being the swashbuckler right the guy that's gonna rip one down and cause a couple himself He's been able to manage that out of his game. That's why he's winning Super Bowl and getting the Super Bowls if he can play that lately that really kind of buttoned up Classic beautiful. I learned in a more sophisticated era quarterback football game. He's me tough to beat now. See Oxford all of that by the way. So You know good luck to everybody, but Matthew Matthew is all of that and I bite back Matthew no matter what that dude has got to figure it out We certainly is a quarterback who advanced out of that nice game But I got to ask you about the throw the fourth down throw Caleb Williams Made you were one of the people I thought of immediately because modesty aside not going to be modest You were the few guys who could have made That play or something damn close to it in his prime What did you think did it make sense to you what was your reaction? My reaction is fourth down and the second he turned his back And started to run backward. It's one of those no Because nothing's good's gonna happen. It's like no then he turned back again No like there was five nose in a row and then he kind of Squared himself up and let one go and I'm like no ball thrown from the 40 To the end zone and the last play of the game in a professional NFL defense is gonna be completed There's no that's not and then all of a sudden the balls He catches it like no one's around like the defenders just take the Where they are in the tunnel did they thought it was over like that play can only work in Peeley football But he hit the physical part of it was amazing like the idea that you can turn back three times And then square yourself up and throw ball in the minus five degree. So Caleb's all of that But the idea that it worked Kind of works against the expertise of NFL like how does how does How do the rams allow that That's just an excuseable that somebody was just wide open in the end zone. We have to draw that quick follow up How does someone who struggles with Accuracy on sort of regular plays Make that play and the play the previous week on fourth down. How does what is that? He reconciled that I I do relate with Caleb in this way when you are mobile highly mobile You love the game fast you love it in motion and the second you get a little time to kind of think it through and watch You your arm and your brain kind of like well, let's be more careful and more more precise and it's like in in a way The best throws you ever make are the ones that you don't think about and And that was one that he I mean, I can't imagine the desperation he felt about that But the fact that it and I think all of Chicago I mean, I just I hated that they didn't win it because that now the play doesn't get the Full measure in a way right in history. You can't talk about it the same way But I think just the stadium you were there that must have been one of the all-time moments in athletics that all time Did you just like fourth down no no no no triple no yes Like nice no To see it let me get you out of here on this I love this. It's a small story But I love it Baker Mayfield says he's still waiting for a call from Kevin Stafansky Who he says shipped him off like a piece of garbage and now Baker Mayfield is looking forward to playing the new Falcons coach twice a year Were you a chip on your shoulder guy and did it help you? Well, first of all, it sounds like he what he's saying is he didn't get a call like it didn't even call him Which is I mean if that's true. That's pretty cheap. I mean, that's bad And do you have a chip on your shoulder? Yes, I I would make the differentiation I call it creative tension and toxic tension Toxic tension when you get so so overwrought about the anger you have at somebody and what it actually hurts your game But there is a lot of creative tension and I think Baker's trying to tap into that like I'm gonna see you twice And I'm gonna play better than you've ever seen and I think in that way that chip on your shoulder that creative tension I like I think it'd be super cool and I think it's gonna be fun to see how that plays out It's great to talk with you all the time totally great today. Thank you Steve. Thank you Okay, I love you guys see you Let's take one last break still to come Carlos Belltran and Andrew Jones make the whole But did others deserve better and are the chargers the right fit for Mike McDaniel Not Michael McDonnell no, I'm gonna be there. No, but not also not Mike McDonnell from the seahorse from the seahorse It was originally from Baltimore Max not the Dubie Brothers you right? I don't want him to see Happy time people happy 63rd birthday a chemo lodge you want It feels like a lodge one has been around forever he goes back to the University of Houston and Faislam and Jama in the early 80s Elijah won never won the NCAA championship Losing to Michael Jordan once in the semi-finals to Patrick Ewing once in the finals And once most famously to Jim Valvano and NC stayed in the finals Elijah won became the first pick in the 1984 draft going to Houston wearing one two NBA championships Once where he got some revenge over Patrick Ewing in the nicks and once in a four game sweep over Shikiloneal when he was with Orlando Elijah won played 18 seasons averaging 21.8 points 11.1 rebounds and 3.1 blocks Isn't obvious choice for the Hall of Fame and lately he's been tutoring Victor Wimbanyama How smart of Victor Wimbanyama if there's all the people in the universe you can go to now He's way up to help you he's way up to top of that is locked way up there Not so happy anniversary Jeff Van Gundy on this day 29 years ago weeks after nicks coach Jeff Van Gundy called Michael Jordan a con man Though in context Van Gundy said it respectfully and with admiration Jordan scored 51 points on the nicks and took every opportunity to glare at and shout at Van Gundy after each made basting This game is known in Jordan lore as the con game Van Gundy had said quote he uses everything to his advantage He cons them by inviting him to his movies. He cons them with his commercials He pretends to enjoy guys and be friends them and all he wants to do is win Unquote Jordan's coach at the time Phil Jackson said quote it was a tactical mistake by the coach of the nicks to attack Michael in the press Unquote you think listen Jordan never pretended that all he wanted to do is win He never pretends that's what he wanted to do But a night or two before that game Jordan saw a bunch of us people in the media you know and he said what are you doing tomorrow night? I don't know. I'm going to a solid. No, you don't want to do that. Come watch me. You want to come watch this? Yeah Yeah Happy trails to the wait for the Hall of Fame for Carlos Beltran and Andrew Jones the two center fielders Earned more than 75% of the vote to gain induction into the hall Jones got 78% Beltran 84% Clearly the baseball writers that have taken such a strong stand against performance enhancing drugs are not taking the same stance against the Astros Sign stealing scandal of which Beltran was reportedly a ringleader Andrew Jones was a great center fielder but where were the votes for Tory hunter this year who got just 5.1% Or Jim Edmunds in 2016 who got just 2.5% Automatically booted off the ballot fear question, but I'm gonna ask you a question now quest seems as if you hold the steroid era and the Astros cheating thing equally I don't at all. I know you know nothing to we have talked about this. Yeah, no, no I hold it in higher esteem than you do. Let's go to the big finish. Let's go to the meds traded with the white sauce for Lewis Robert Jr Significant he's a big talent, but it's a lot of time underachieving his seems to me Mike McDaniel is reportedly joining the charges as an offensive coordinator D.O.C. Good fit. Yeah, because he's got Justin Herbert and he believes in the run game UCLA upset number four Purdue. Is that a big deal? No Just another night, you know, a two-z night in the big 10. No A judge ruled that Duke quarterback Darian Mensa can enter the portal But not sign until a ruling on Duke's request for an injunction What is that nobody understands what's going on? I know, but by the way another night in the big 10 with UCLA That's funny last one. They only have soccer back on the court of 3 a.m You know my favorite tennis player. I know I know we're out of time. I'll try to be better the next time Surely spearman happy birthday. I'm Mike Wilbaugh. Same time tomorrow. No, go ahead
