Giggling about spanx, stripping, and figure skating
60 min
•Nov 18, 20255 months agoSummary
Two hosts of the Giggly Squad podcast discuss their recent experiences, including a viral appearance on Jimmy Fallon where one host ripped her tights during a calf-off bit, reality TV trends, and their observations on entertainment culture including Kim Kardashian's acting debut and Dancing with the Stars' Gen Z resurgence.
Insights
- Reality TV drama is increasingly driven by production manipulation rather than genuine conflict, with audiences now understanding and accepting this dynamic
- Gen Z's nostalgia for millennial culture (2004-2016) is driving unexpected revivals of shows like Dancing with the Stars, suggesting cyclical entertainment trends
- Authenticity in entertainment comes from being imperfect; audiences prefer genuine, unpolished moments over flawless performances
- Social media strategy (TikTok clips) is now essential for traditional TV shows to reach younger audiences and drive viewership
- Women in entertainment face pressure to be good at everything, while men are allowed to fail publicly without career consequences
Trends
Gen Z nostalgia for millennial-era entertainment and aesthetics (2004-2016 cultural references)TikTok-driven marketing strategy revitalizing legacy TV shows through short-form contentReality TV audience sophistication regarding production manipulation and staged conflictInfluencer-led casting in traditional entertainment (non-Hollywood famous people outperforming A-listers)Acceptance of imperfect performances in entertainment as more relatable and authenticMormon cultural influence in entertainment (Dancing with the Stars, music, performance arts)Women-focused entertainment content gap and demand for shows featuring older, wealthy womenParasocial relationships with celebrities through behind-the-scenes content and streamingLive television unpredictability as entertainment value (viral moments driving engagement)Shift from scripted perfection to camp and intentional artificiality in prestige TV
Topics
Reality TV production and manufactured dramaDancing with the Stars revival and Gen Z engagementKim Kardashian's acting debut in American Horror StoryJimmy Fallon appearance and live TV momentsSocial media marketing for traditional televisionEntertainment industry double standards for womenJersey Shore cultural impact and nostalgiaMormon culture in entertainment industryInfluencer casting in mainstream mediaWomen-focused television content creationParasocial relationships with celebritiesLive performance anxiety and preparationFashion and styling in entertainmentPet monitoring technology (Furbo)Diner menu options and food culture
Companies
Twilio
Sponsor providing customer engagement platform for builders and enterprises with AI and communication tools
London Business School
Sponsor offering leadership development and organizational transformation programs
SKIMS
Kim Kardashian's shapewear and clothing brand, discussed as successful business venture partnered with Nike
Hulu
Streaming platform mentioned in context of potential Dancing with the Stars on Ice concept
Disney on Ice
Referenced as existing ice performance brand model for potential new entertainment concepts
MTV
Network mentioned for past reality TV shows like Made that influenced hosts' entertainment preferences
BPP
Sponsor offering apprenticeships and skills training across 16 subject areas for employers
Experian
Sponsor providing credit score improvement and mortgage readiness services
Procore
Sponsor offering construction technology and project management platform
Xero
Sponsor providing accounting software for cash flow management and business operations
Interflora
Sponsor offering flower delivery and floral arrangement services
People
Eddie Murphy
Documentary subject discussed for his career trajectory, sobriety, and impact on entertainment
Rick James
Referenced in context of Eddie Murphy's 1980s social circle and entertainment culture
Jimmy Fallon
Host of appearance where guest performed calf-off bit and ripped tights on live television
Kim Kardashian
Discussed for acting debut in American Horror Story and business ventures including SKIMS
Sarah Snook
Australian actress discussed for performance in television series and name recognition
Ryan Murphy
Producer referenced for American Horror Story style and cinematic television approach
Kelly Clarkson
Referenced as first meeting occurring during game show hosting appearance
Leslie Bibb
Discussed for TikTok presence and home renovation content creation
Jenna Hager
Referenced in context of television appearance and conversation about hairstyles
Chloe Feynman
Met on Today Show during first meeting with cameras rolling
Vinny Guadagnino
Jersey Shore cast member referenced for tattoo and show dynamics
The Situation
Jersey Shore cast member discussed for drug addiction storyline and nickname
Travis Kelsey
Referenced as host of Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader game show
Billy Eichner
Referenced for game show format asking people to name basic facts
Quotes
"Happiness is not about how much money you make how much fame you have. It's how much peace you have in your minds."
Eddie Murphy•Documentary discussion segment
"Why can't women do it all? Why can't we do it badly? Why can't we normalize women doing things badly?"
Host•Kim Kardashian acting discussion
"Let go and let God."
Host•Jimmy Fallon appearance preparation
"We need to normalize being grumpy. Okay, it's okay to be grumpy. Let women grump."
Host•Episode opening
"This is the most unserious podcast to ever exist. We've been on multiple lists. We've won awards."
Host•Episode opening
Full Transcript
Twilio's Customer Engagement Platform empowers the builders shaping tomorrow. Whether you're launching a startup or transforming an enterprise, Twilio helps you build, test and scale with confidence. Connect data, AI and communication in one seamless platform. No silos, no barriers. Twilio, the ultimate toolbox for customer engagement. Learn more at twilio.com. We are London Business School where rigorous thinking meets real-world impact. We accelerate transformation for organizations, preparing leaders to navigate complexity with confidence, not just to lead, but to define the future. London Business School. See what we can do for your organization at london.edu. Sup, Gigglers? Gary, fix your Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. It is fun. I mean the day just got away from me. What's up my grumpy Gigglers? This is what I'm saying. We need to normalize being grumpy. Okay, it's okay to be grumpy. Let women grump. Oh, I thought you were going to talk about, like, you're watching this podcast. We're in two different places. We're virtual, which I love when we're virtual because I always do a hair mask when we're virtual. Or you had your hair fully up on a towel last time. You didn't even mask it. I didn't even try. You were in the shower during the last pod. I was showering. No, I just want to say that this is the most unserious podcast to ever exist. We've been on multiple lists. We've won awards. This is the most unserious hour of my entire week. And people are like, this is her best accolade. I'm like, this is a joke. I literally just had a lady yell out of a car going, Giggly girl, I don't even have a real name anymore. I don't even have a real name. Wait, can I also just let everyone know? I just got my period. I just finished mine. I'm so sorry. I'm trying to work on that. I just got my period. I also just got off a four hour flight. I also just had three shows this weekend. I also think I have a really bad, I think I have a science infection, but besides that, I feel really good. I wouldn't wish a science infection on my worst anime. It's my go-to. When my body wants to shut down, that's my, you know how like you have UTIs? My UTIs up my nose. See, I've only ever had one science infection and I'm not kidding. I thought I was dying. Yeah. That's like some of the worst pain ever. It becomes mental too. You're like, it's dark. But um, yeah. Wait, I miss you. No, I miss you so much. I promise to the Gigglers that like we're going to settle down and get like a studio space that's like Giggly Squad centric and we're going to record in it every week. But I think it's funny to have some that I'm in LA looking like Joe Rogan and you're just at a spa. At a retreat. I'm in jail wearing Daphne. I have headphones on. Like I'm in the zone right now. For what? You're in the zone for what? I don't know. Making silly, silly jokes. I had like one of the most relaxing weekends ever. We had a very different weekend. We had very different weekends and I had a relaxing weekend in such a page way. What did you do? And by that, I mean I hit my 10,000 steps. I drank tea on Friday night. I went shopping at an outlet on Saturday. I love a sale. I love a bargain. Like I literally touched so much grass. I was going to say bring back shopping in person. Like it's one of my favorite things to do. To see something, touch it, try it on the dressing room, realize it looks stupid on you. Like that's a memory we all miss. To go shopping and then say do you want to get lunch? That's my version of like don't talk dirty to me. That is so... I'm like oh my, that's my favorite day ever. Is to go to a couple stores and then stop and have lunch. Go to a couple stores, get overstimulated, have to talk to some people you don't want to talk to and then have to pee really bad and not know where to pee. That's my idea of a perfect afternoon. Yeah. What was your weekend like? Well, I took my mom and my uncle on tour with me. Because my uncle was his birthday and he's like I want you to take me on tour. And I'm like whatever you're into. I don't judge. It's not glamorous. It's not glamorous. Let me just preface with it's not glamorous. So they've never been to Texas. My mom and my uncle. So they're like we want to come to Texas. So we went to Houston, Austin and Dallas. The same run we did. And it wasn't good for my dairy. Now my new thing is just posting online being like is this dairy and it's just cheese enchiladas and everyone's like no it doesn't count in Texas. I was just going to say Texas has their own set of rules and dairy is they're doing like they're doing more than dairy. What are they doing? They're doing like that. What's the thing that people get so mad on Tiktok about? That's one of my favorite things about Tiktok. People can get so mad about things and I'm like I don't even know what that is to get mad at it. I love when there's drama about something I don't know and I get to start on the ground floor. Sometimes I can't find the original Tiktok that people are even mad about but I'll still get an opinion on it. I'm like I need the root of this argument. My current niche one have you heard about Hair by Chrissy? No. Okay this girl, Hair by Chrissy I don't know where she's located. It seems like Texas it could be LA and it's this lady that owns a salon that all these like influencers go to. So this young girl goes hey I just paid $4,000 for Hair by Chrissy and she came over for like a minute and like touched my hair for like 90 seconds total and I feel scammed. So the internet is losing their mind on whether if you... So who did the girls hair? She basically is like what do you want and then she'd get like five other girls to do everything else but she'll come in and like curl one hair or like check it to make sure it looks good. So like yeah that's the drama. She's outsourcing. She's giving you like a consultation and saying you got your hair done by her but really she's like outsourced the work. Yeah and I think the problem also what 13 year old is paying for a grand for a... Wait wait wait she was 13. She isn't 13. I don't you know anyone anyone who's young nowadays I don't know. But this is like this is like the younger insolence or crowd. Okay got it got it. No I'm not abreast with that TikTok. Also these girls are getting like extensions sewn in. I feel like that would give me a headache immediately. I'd be like can you take it off? Like after eight hours I'd be like wait it's kind of itchy me can you take it off? It's interesting because you've been wearing extensions for like a couple weeks now. Clip it. You're using clip it. I do a clip in. And you don't think that you could ever run with the big dogs? Oh no I can't be with the Mormon housewife. This is my thing though what I love about clip ins they put it in you're like that's uncomfortable but it's gonna feel so fucking good. When I get home and I do it slow too like I put up my phone on do not disturb and I slowly unclip them with some like with some music. It's sensual. It's sensual. It's just gonna sit. You're learning your own body you're like that bad touch. No don't like that. I'm like Des can you scratch my head no he's busy I'm over here with my and then yeah I so I've been enjoying my clippies my clip ins but I've become a monster with them. You've become a monster? Yeah when I have clip ins I like I think I'm Ariana Grande and Wicked I'm like what? What? What? What? Have you watched It's All Her Fault or All Her Fault? I started it. I fucking love Sarah Snook. Love it. Also I love the name Sarah Snook. If my name was Sarah Snook. Wait who was that? The Australian Redhead. Oh is that her name? Yeah. Her real name? Yeah she was named after Snookie. No I'm just kidding. No if my name was Sarah Snook I'd be like hi I'm Sarah Snook nice to meet you. It's double S to reporting to business. Can I tell you that I've actually been rewatching Jersey Shore and I'm on season 5 and there's I'm not kidding this is gonna sound so insane there's something extremely calming about it. Well it's also like a beautiful simple time when like our biggest worry was our Facebook wall. I didn't realize how much drama happened on that show. Wait are they in Italy yet? We did Italy we're back in the Jersey Shore. So the situation which by the way the fact that his name was the situation that is so many syllables for a nickname. Like I don't remember in real time where like he was like a full on drug addict and then like came back for season 6 and was like I'm sober now like I was just skimmed over that. When he bashed his head into the drywall in Italy. To get home because he was out of drugs. It's so funny because like watching reality TV and then then like hearing like okay well this is this happened because he wanted more drugs but like as a viewer you would have never known that. It's just so funny to watch now knowing like all the lore. Can I give a reality TV hot take which we occasionally do. We are at the point I haven't been watching reality TV however I believe I sent it in the ether. We're at the point where we need to let people fight about production because at the end of the day I think everyone understands now that the fights are about production. So yes. Well I've been watching Mormon housewives, secret lives of Mormon wives and their whole thing is about production. Well the first season tends to not be about production because people are like actually going to know each other but then it becomes and let me say a general example. I'm not saying this happened to anyone but it will be like you're in the car and they're like okay wait like 30 minutes. You get there and some girls like why are you always late. You can't say production told me to or you do but obviously they cut that part and they're like I don't like your attitude. I hate you. Next thing you know it's a huge fight. Yeah. All because of production. The majority of the reason people are fighting on reality TV is because they're mad that someone else is infringing on their reputation. Like you're fucking with how I'm coming off to America and now I have to kill you. Yes. Yes. Yes. So sometimes things might not look that bad. Like they're like hey she's just asking her a question and it's like no that question. The fact you're the one that agreed to ask me that is fucked up. Also do you know Mormons are like incredible at show tunes? The more I learn about Mormons the more I'm not surprised. Yeah what else would they do but be able to sing and dance they can't drink. Like half the people on Dancing with the Stars my new religion are Mormons because like the Huff Brothers sister Mormons, Whitney's obviously Mormon, Riley Arnold is Mormon. I know you don't know these names but they're huge in the dance community. No I actually I didn't know Julie and Huff was Mormon. Yeah because they just sat around and like danced and sang and the gay male Mormons were like this is awesome and they like toss each other around and shake beds but I'm not getting into it. One note about Dancing with the Stars I have ideas for this brand because it's doing so well this year we need to expand. What is it? No truly I think it's like very interesting. Dancing with the Stars has been on for what like 20 years? Yeah I've talked to my sources. I've talked to my sources. And it was the biggest thing ever to come on TV that it like went and had a lull. Then it was almost seen as like if you went on Dancing with the Stars your career was over. That was your final like hurrah. You went on Dancing with the Stars. Now all of a sudden it's having this like Gen Z resurgence. Gen Z's obsessed with things millennials did. It's really crazy they're like really obsessed with like how we partied in high school. I think it's because we're so close but so far. They're obsessed with 2000 and like 4 to 2016. Like just listen to Kesha. Just listen to Kesha and you'll get it. Like listen to Kesha and put navy eyeliner on your under lid and that's it. But what is it that like Dancing with the Stars had that come back? There's a social media girl that works for them that is doing so well with their TikToks. And so basically the last two years it's kind of like our podcast. Like our podcast was doing well and then we started posting all our clips and it started doing that much better. I also let's give credit to Alex Earl. Let's give credit to the Mormon housewives. These like people who aren't considered Hollywood famous who are actually more famous than A-listers in some capacity are bringing like serious views to the show and serious. Wait I feel like a ESPN reporter for Dancing with the Stars. No why do I? No like actually I have changed. No this visual is really fucking with me because I have like multiple lights because I looked dead. I feel like I'm in the chair. I'm at CNN headquarters. And I'm like we actually have Hannah on the scene right now. Hannah what do you see in? Thank you so much Paige. Hope you're doing well. I want to pitch a Dancing with the Stars doing different things and I realize what it has to be. And it's going to be violent and there will be blood. But I want to see Dancing with the Stars figure skating. Wow. Okay. I'm sure they've thought about it. They've heard me out. I saw I was watching figure skaters and it was reminding me of Dancing with the Stars that they were just dancing on Ice. I mean a lot of Disney on Ice. Hulu hello. The brand's already there. The problem is you can lose multiple fingers. People break noses in the dance. They could slice your innards could fall out. Is that good TV though? Is that good TV? Yeah like you're slice sitting now. I actually already thought about it. Declined my offer. Thank you so much. Well you were anything physical you're not getting involved. I do feel like people like to ask though. They're like Paige. If there's one reality show that from my childhood I would partake in if they brought it back was called Supermarket Sweep. And it was people that used to be timed going through the grocery store. And I thought that it was some of the best television to ever grace the planet. That was just a way of tricking people to do chores. Yeah I loved it. And it was like you had to guess what was on sale and your items had to add up to a certain number. And you had to it was just Supermarket Sweep and I loved it. That was very Italian mom of you. Well I would actually watch it with my Aunt Pam in the summer. Aunt Pam was crushed. Aunt Pam is like look at these fucking amateurs. Yeah while my grandma would like make food or be like making dinner or something. They can't even find the produce aisle. They can't find the produce aisle. What the fuck is this guy doing. Whenever it was a man I'm like why is he doing this. This man has no idea. I think when people say that they had like really good childhoods it's the similarity between people that had good childhoods. It's that they lived a certain amount of years as an old woman. Like I lived a certain amount of years as a 75 year old smoker. You know like I had my shows. I woke up late. I had like morning coffee. I had debriefs. You know like I went to bed late and I sipped on Pepsi while like a Yankee game was on sale. Like a Yankee game was on. You know like I was an old woman. The truth is a good life is circular. The way you start your life and end your life is the same. Unfortunately right now we're in a little bit of a chaotic moment. But I started you know you're like watching morning TV. Yeah. You know because you have nothing to do during the day. You're having a slow morning. Oh the peaceful. You have chocolate milk for no reason. If you peed yourself it's like not having a deal. You can say anything you want. You could say inappropriate things. You could forget things and everyone goes oh that was cute. That's when you're old and young. But this age we can't get away with it as much. Anyway so yeah Denzi with the stars on ice. Maybe it won't work. Wait what show. Okay I wanted as you guys know like I'm an artist. I actually like kind of wanted to be on Project Runway as a designer. No. But not to like have a fashion line. Like just to make stuff. Like I like the idea of like. This is so you. Like this is so you. You're like I actually really want to do this but first I'm going to change it. What I think it should be. I'm going to do it and then. I wasn't like thinking fashion industry. I was like okay I can make a sick dress out of this whatever they're trying to do. Like I'm an idea person. I'm an idea. I'm a creative director. So I was into that stuff. But yeah anything survivor no MTV. Yeah. Made. Is that what it's called? Oh I thought you were going to. MTV made sorry I thought you were going to MTV made and then you were going to get. What would you have wanted to be made into. Oh my god yeah these were like such good ones at the time. Like it was people being like I want to be like captain of the cheerleading squad. I want to be like it was like very sports related. So like when I would watch it and I was younger I was like I want to be like the dance captain. I was going to say like ballerina. Now I want to. Break it into someone who doesn't have anxiety. You know like. The dance captain is for someone else. And that's my segue to our documentary of the week. Eddie Murphy. I saw it I didn't click on it but I figured you watched it. This sweet I'm going to cry this sweet sweet sweet man. Eddie Murphy at one point says. Happiness is not about how much money you make how much fame you have. It's how much peace you have in your minds. It's so true. And my king Eddie Murphy blows up in the 80s like he was the first he was like one of the first leading. Black actors to like star in a huge huge Hollywood movie that like financially killed it. And he was the biggest star of the 80s and he'd like be hanging out with Rick James. He's doing music he could do every impression ever. He also doesn't drink doesn't smoke. Honestly Eddie and I like would have hung out. He doesn't drink. He doesn't drink in the 80s. He's hanging out with Rick James. He said shit we get kind of weird and then he would just like leave but he'd hang out all the time. And he was just like incredible but this is the sad thing about it. People started to you know do impressions of him because he was got so popular and he had this laugh. This classic laugh where he'd be like. Ha ha ha ha. I think that was that was a laugh. Ha ha ha. Anyway it was the best live ever. He changed his laugh. He changed his laugh because people like I guess they were kind of making fun of him but that was like how they would do like an SNL impression of him. And he you're watching him and he's doing like a different laugh the whole documentary and you're like where's Eddie. But it got me thinking. We that's so sad and also so dramatic. Also so fucking real because I know about you, I've been told I have annoying laughs and I think I've changed my laughs through the years depending on who my best friend is. Like, do you know how like, like you ever like hang out with someone and they have a certain laugh and I see you know you both are like, together. I think that's just like symbiosis though. I think that's just like osmosis. I feel like sometimes I've changed my laugh based on, well all girls have had a moment where we've changed our laugh around our crush. Like you've been like. I went through like a week in like eighth grade where I changed my voice. Oh my God, would you? Where it was just like, like I swallowed a lot more than I normally did. What? I don't know why. Because like I met a girl and she like sounded cool and she like smelt a lot. And I was like, yeah. Like I think she had a saliva problem. I think she had, she had a sinus infection. She had like, she had overactive saliva. That was like when I thought it was cool and elementary school had to do a half smile. So I would do half smiles. All my photos and elementary school would be going like this. I thought it was so cool. Hahaha. There once was a woman who lived in a shoe, a size too snug, but what could she do? But that's not where her story ends. Thanks to a little help from her experienced friends, she got her score into much better shape and relocated to a box fresh new place with room to grow and a mortgage to suit. Now, she lives in a spacious four bedroom cowboy boot. Better your experience credit score to help get mortgage ready, experience. Better your score, better your story. Hey, hon, missed you last night. Kiss. Two musketeers isn't the same. Hope you feel, no. Thinking of, oh, she knows that. Okay, what I'm trying to say is, you've got this and we've got you. Whatever you want to say, let our skilled local florists help you say more. Interflora, say more. Business is in flux. AI and geopolitics are reshaping industries and competitors are emerging where you least expect. We are London Business School, where rigorous thinking meets real world impact. We accelerate transformation for organizations, preparing leaders to navigate complexity with confidence, not just to lead, but to define the future. London Business School. See what we can do for your organization at london.edu. Need a complete solution to skills challenges? BPP have got you covered. 50 apprenticeships, 16 subject areas, levels two to seven. Trusted by 10,000 employers and 13,000 apprentices. Get the right skills in the right roles, where you need them. Offering expert levy guidance and a free apprentice recruitment service. Training that develops workforce capability and then some apprenticeships. Built for performance, search BPP apprenticeships. Wait, we didn't even talk about you being on Jimmy Fallon and taking your pants off. Look, we gotta get ratings in these streets. Wait, Paige and I have a page message me and she goes, did you just do what I think you did on Fallon? I said yes I did and she goes, save her for Giggly Squad and I said, I'll speak to you then. So here we are. Can I defend myself? I'm watching it and I'm like. It starts normal, starts normal, starts normal though. Yeah, but she's wearing tights. Like I'm getting it until then, like at the final moment. I'm like, but she's in tights and you're like, and I'll just rip them. I'm like. All my dams were like, check on page, check on page. I hate to say this, Jimmy Fallon has no cabs. Okay, so this is the behind the scenes of how this came about. When you go on a show, they have a producer that calls you and is like, so what do you want to talk about? Now this is what's tough with me and you. We be talking. Like my stories are out there. Anything that's ever been done. But let me tell you something, something that is stressful is like when someone emails you and is like a producer from the Jimmy Fallon show is going to call you and ask you like the funniest things you can say in five minutes. Go and you're like, I don't have any friends or a life. I have funny things to say. Like that's my immediate thought. I'm like, I don't do anything. So true. They're like, do you have any funny stories? And I'm like, hmm. Well, so they go, last time you were on, you did the worm and it was a mate with a team loved it. And I was like, thank you. And they go, so what else can you do? I said, oh, that's, that was it, babe. Like that's all I have. That's all I have to give. And she's like, do you have any other skills? And I'm like, I can play tennis, but we don't have a tennis court. And I'm like, I could kind of juggle. Any talent, any talent at all. I could juggle. And she's like, OK, with what? And I'm like, balls. And she's like, not like any knives. I was like, no, no, balls. And I'm like, but not like under pressure. And she's like, OK, I'm like, for like 10 seconds, I could juggle. And she's like, OK, OK, we'll go with that. So get off the phone and I go to Dez. And I'm like, I just told Jimmy Fallon show I was going to juggle. And he was like, that makes no sense. That makes no sense. Like no one wants to see you juggle. Also, you're not a juggler. Like I've never seen you juggle before. So Dez is so cool. Dez is that like, you're not very pretty and you're not very bright. Like any time we say an idea to Dez, he's like, how have you guys made it this far? In life, like you guys are so lucky. Dez is here to veto my shit. Yeah, he'll genuinely look at us and be like, people ask you questions. And they look to you for the answers. How? But this is, doesn't I work together creatively very well? Because as I told you guys, I'm an ideas person. I'm coming up with ideas. And Dez is just slashing them down. Some say he goes, email them right now. But you want to know what? It's nice to know that no matter where we are in our lives, we'll always have someone that isn't a yes person. He's more of a no guy. And we need that. We need that. The truth is, is the man is honest with me. My honest king. And every now and then, does it hurt? Yeah. There have been a couple real stingers. My Scorpio king. But he's like, no, email them right now. You're not juggling. And I'm like, OK, well, I don't want, what other skill? Because I don't have that many stories. And he was like, what? Why don't you do a calf off? It was Dez's idea. And I was like, that is interesting. I'll pitch it to them. I'll see what they say. So I pitch it to them. They say, I don't hear anything back. So I'm like, I think that's a good thing. And then I'm in the green room. No news is good news. No news is good. No news. Shut. Write that down. So now, when you've gone to the Fallon show a couple times, the Tonight Show, at first, he introduced himself to you. But now, it's like, I feel like we go way back. So he walks into the green room. And he's like, hey, saw you at the Ryder Cup. I'm like, Jimme, Jimme, Jimme, what's good? And then I go, it's crazy that you agreed to the calf off. And he goes, oh, I didn't. He's like, but my team told me that he had no stories. I didn't agree to it. But I guess we're doing it. And I'm like, OK. So we're laughing. He leaves. And then I realize I'm wearing tights. So this is all happening a little too close to show time. Now, you didn't think when you were putting the tights on, didn't cross your mind. Well, shout out to Hugh, HUE. They have incredible tights. Um, wait, I actually almost had a full meltdown in the green room because, oh, god. OK, I put on my skims. And then I put on my tights. And the tights had a lining. Then when I put my dress over it, you could see the line ever so slightly. And actually, Grace was sitting there. And they were like, we could see this bump in your dress. And they're like, can you take off the spanks? Can you take off the tights and then put it on with the spanks? No, no, no. The way I almost had a meltdown. So I'm fighting for my life back there. I'm fighting for my life. Lay be a owl at this point. Spanks are one of those things that like. Humbling. No, here's the thing. No one warned you for the first. I'm not getting it. It's like emotional. No one warned you for the first time that someone says to you, do you have any spanks for under that? Where you're like. Sorry, I think I. Sorry, I think I misheard you. You want me to put spanks on under this. Like my mom wears spank. Like it's very. We used to raw dog body condresses. Yeah. Do you remember the days American Apparel Body Condress throw it on show up to the house party. That was freeing. Nowadays, I need to stuff my. Fuck a bot mitzvah you become a woman when someone says, here are your first. Come on. Also that is. You were there one of our shows with my mom where my mom looked at me took off her spanks and gave me her spanks because she's like, you're not going on stage. I'm going on stage. No spanks. So I'm fighting for my life. And then I look at the producer and I'm like, oh my god, and these tights are gorgeous. And they go with the outfit. We have to figure something out. And she goes, oh, OK, we'll bring out a scissor for you. And I was like, OK. And I'm like turned to grace. I'm like, am I about to like bleed to death under me Val and trying to have a bit. Oh, you got nervous to use the scissors? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a fucking collage artist. I don't know how to. I've never cut a tight before. With a little adrenaline, I'll mess up anything. Yeah. Like with a camera on me, who knows what can go wrong. You see, it's so crazy because I'd be like, I'm not going to be strong enough in the moment to rip my tights. I'm going to need the scissors. Where you were like, I will accidentally stab everyone in the audience. My second brain can't be trusted. Live television. I'm literally like a toddler. I'm like, you can't give me scissors without an adult in the room. Like what? You're like, my mom's not even here. No, and then there wasn't like a practice run with it, obviously. So I'm, but this is again, where I think we have to talk about mindset because I was in there feeling good. I didn't have a beta blocker. I was excited to see Jimmy. I liked some of my stories. And I said, I'm going to leave the rest to God. Let go and let God. When I look back at it, so many things. In Jersey Shore, Vinny just got that tattoo across his chest. So it's actually so timely. It's so aligned. Let go and let God. So Anthony was watching over me. I knew that. So many things could have gone wrong, especially cause we start the bit and I assumed someone's going to give me a scissor, but no one gives me a scissor. And I said, oh, they're about to let the monster out of its cage. And I said, I'm about to be the Hulk. And I'm going to rip it. This is your on, your on, your life. This is live. There's no scissors. And I was like, we're ripping it. And somehow imagine if I were to rip it and it like, you can't really see the calf. Like this is, this is the finale. It could have been the wrong spot. It could have been too high. I could have not opened it, but like, that's something you would do. Be like, I'm so weak. I'm so little. But also I do have to say, I did Google Jimmy Fallon calf beforehand and there's one paparazzi shot of him running. And I was like, I think I could take him. I think I could take him. I saw what I need to see. So anyway, I rip it and the crowd has a great reaction. And I kind of laugh and I walk off stage and I'm like, did it, did it work? And the whole, everyone backstage was like, your calf has never looked bigger. And I'm like, Hannah, it. I think I said this to you. It looked like someone inserted a dinner plate in your cat. I was like, how is it so angular? Calf gods were watching over me and like, the big couldn't have worked better, but like there was a 3% chance that was going to hit. I also think like the coloring of the tight was like adding a little contour. Like it was doing something. The only thing I could think of, and this was actually the majority of my DMs was that you shaved your legs because I was like, if there's a zoom in. I'm going to be so real. There was like two day old hair that if they zoomed in, they would have seen, but I had bigger problems in that moment. Like I was worried about a lot of things. Also, all I do is try to not rip tight. So there was something very satisfying about just ripping a tight. Something rebellious. Yeah, like let out your anger by like ripping an old tight you don't want. But so yeah, that's how all that came to be. So that. So that's, yeah, that's how that all played out. Also awesome. Just raising awareness about these talk shows and when you like are promoting something, it's crazy cause sometimes you meet people like with the camera on you. Like I did the Today Show and Chloe Feynman was there and I've never met her. So the moment I meet her is us me walking on stage and the camera's on. So you're in like camera mode. You're like, hey, hey, nice to meet you. Like it's the weirdest thing. Like the first time I met Kelly Clarkson, I was doing, I was hosting a game show and I'm like, this isn't how I wanted us to meet. Then you were standing like that. Yeah, I literally was just standing like that. You're in game show hope. She was watching me read off a card. That's my nightmare. That's your nightmare. That's my nightmare. Except I can do teleprompter like eerily good. Yeah, yeah. If you're like the only thing I know how to do. I imagine you in school being like, can we do teleprompter instead of book? Thanks. I really shine. I don't. In college, like being like a journalism major, I'm so bad at everything except when we were like in studio and like I literally could not read out loud in class. But once there was a teleprompter on me that I knew like a camera was watching me. I was Shakespeare. I couldn't stop speaking. Also I came at Leslie Bibb and Jenna Hagerbush. About Bob's. I sat down and it was like a fun bit. Like I just want to warn America against Bob's. And Leslie was like, why would you say that? Leslie was like, why are you coming for my throat? I just met you. Wait, I'm obsessed with Leslie Bibb and her TikTok. She like has a house upstate that she's like, I think it's upstate that she's like redoing. She's the sweetest angel also stoning. Stoning. But I just want to like let people know that like just cause the Bob works on some people, it doesn't work for everyone. And I just was raising awareness. Okay, I'm actually really happy you said that because as someone who's had a Bob, I can't say that. No, you can't cause you pull it off. I can't say that to people like it's not for everyone. Like because that would come off really bitchy. True. But you over there with your clip in extensions, you can say, hey, a Bob's not for everyone. No, it's not cause I look like a scared Victorian boy. You look like an apprentice. Like in the 1760s. I look like that evil king from Shrek. Yeah. Okay, what else? Anyway, Eddie Murphy was in Shrek. Two Eddie Murphy movies you guys have to watch. Mulan, he was the lizard, and Shrek when he's the donkey. We have to watch some old nostalgic movies just to enjoy life again and to smile. What do you think about Kim Kardashian not passing the bar? Wait, we haven't even really talked about all this. Wait, not really. We haven't talked about it at all. No. Okay, let's talk about it. You go first. It makes me so sad because like I don't know what that show is. Like I, and this is someone who I love the Kardashians. I literally support anything and everything that they do. Kim is one of those people where she's like, it's one in a million. Like I would watch her on TV do anything. Is she gonna win an Oscar? No, not absolutely not. But if she wants to keep being in shows, I'm gonna keep watching them because I like the way she looks. I like her outfits. I like the vibe, I like the aesthetic. I saw someone describe the show as very camp and I don't know what camp really ever means. No one does. And they nailed it. And that's exactly what the show is. I agree with you. I don't really. I went through a lot of different emotions and I was texting you throughout it. So the first three minutes. And I love every actress in it. Obsessed. The first three minutes are, you don't know if it's a comedy or a drama. Like I couldn't tell if Sarah Paulson was being sarcastic or if she was seriously acting. I do think it was a, I was confused. And then Kim Kardashian, some of her lines seem like everyone else is acting. And then it looks like they went to her and just like got the line and then they put it in. Do you know what I mean? Which is like. Kim felt like she was really nervous. She was gonna mess up the lines. Like the word for word. That's how it felt she was saying that. It seemed like they were like, Kim say this line like 80 times and we'll pick the best one. And like that's how she did all her lines. And look, I don't care about whatever process. And it might not have been that, but that's what was giving me. I love it. And if that's what worked, that's what worked. But it's so funny too, because we see Kim doing the greatest acting of all time, which is reality TV. So we're used to seeing like, we know who Kim is as a person in a room. So I think that's why it also is hard for her to act. Cause we know her personality so well. Not to like give her excuses, but um. Well, it's kind of similar like when certain actors, like when you go to their movies, they're playing themselves. Like Jason Statham is always playing Jason Statham. Jennifer Aniston. So like you think of Kim, like you see Kim and you're like, why is she stiff? You're like, but be yourself. Eat a salad, shake a salad and make it believable. But what I will say at first I was confused. And then once, then you're kind of rooting for her. You're like, yes, deliver that line. Yes, just get the hottest guy to be your husband on the show. Yes. Yes, get a private jet. Yeah, I was like, you know what? Yeah, like four alpha changes in four minutes. Hell yeah. Then I like couldn't turn it off cause I was like a slow mo montage of Kim like dreaming of smashing someone's car. It was selling sunset, but Ryan Murphy style. When she just walked out the car for 15 seconds, slow mo. I was like, this is incredible. And you know what? I've been watching some like fancy R T Farty movies and I'm 30 minutes in and it's just all these like slow, weird, angular, videography things. And I'm like, give me some entertainment. I want story. I want fun. I want silly. I want goofy. Okay, well, I'm going to just say this as someone who consumes television all day long, who like does not really watch reality TV. There's no shows for girls. I need more shows for girls. Like every new show, it's like, okay, yeah, and you have to capture this and talk to this police officer. And then this detective is going to get murdered and they started a company that you need to figure out like who the lawyer is. And I'm like, stop. I want like more Emily. All is fair is for the girls for sure. And I also, there's something about older women. And I don't mean that older than us, um, being so successful and so rich that like I love watching. It's like a manifestation. I love it. It's like, yes, this is what I want. Like they're on their eighth husband and they're just like covered in jewels. And it just seems very luxurious. And they love the most luxurious part about it. And I feel like I've like noticed this as I get older is like the freedom of doing whatever you want. Like, like 10 years ago, I would have said, like, I want like a Birkenbag or I want like this jewelry or whatever. And then like, as you get older, I feel like you're like, no, I just want to be able to do whatever I want. And all of them in that show can do whatever they want. Like they're in control. So that's why we actually do think it's an Oscar nom and people are giving it enough and that's why, yeah, we are voting for it. But what I what I love about Kim is everything Kim's accomplished started as an idea in her head and she executes it and everyone's laughed at her the entire time. But like what skims has become is fucking bonkers. It's like partnered with Nike. But I love that she's like wants to try to be everything and do everything. Pivot. Also, who is going to tell you that like you're bad? Also, I love that she posted all the tweets that were like, Kim, you're bad. You're bad actress. She was like, hell, yeah, like I love it. Why can't women do it all? Why can't we do do it badly? Why can't we normalize women doing things badly? Why do women have to be good at everything? No, men do so many things bad every single day. And we have to and we literally pretend that they're doing a good job and we lie to them. At least we're honest with women. But like, let her do it and let her be bad at it. Also, I feel like Kim could pass the bar if she wasn't doing four thousand other projects. Like Nisi Nash was talking about how like Kim is literally like on the phone, like yelling like a business manager about something and then starting a new business and then having an acting coach and then studying for the bar while also shooting reality TV. I'm like, yeah, she's not passing the bar. Yeah. Yeah. Even legally blonde, she like was at the library like for studying. Wait, what do you think about Kim calling out her psychics? Wait, what? Did you see Kim say she called her sisters and she's like, all our psychics are bullshit. They four of them told me I was going to pass the bar. Well, well, well, you know what? I love that the Kardashians go to so many psychics. I love maybe if you didn't go to so many psychics and instead of sitting and talking to psychics all the time and you looked at what was at the in the bar and then just look at chat. You be tea. It's all about the Etsy which these days. But like that scares me. See, that is to you're my Etsy which my Catholic guilt comes into play there. I'm like, that's dabbling too much with karma. I don't do that. I can't do that. No, no, no, no. But you're my Etsy which. Yeah. Oh. I have my own. Gee, I have my own. Literally, I literally texted Hannah something earlier today and I was like, and this happened to this person and it was like a bad thing that happened to that person. And I was like, I think my powers are really strong because I didn't mean. You guys look up the Sicilian Malochio. Anyhow. Oh, gosh. So yeah, all's all's fair. It's fun. There once was a woman who lived in a shoe. A size two snug but what could she do? But that's not where her story ends. Thanks to a little help from her experience friends, she got her score into much better shape and relocated to a box fresh new place with room to grow and a mortgage to suit. Now she lives in a spacious four bedroom cowboy boot. Better your experience credit score to help get mortgage ready. 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Like I'm on the phone, you know, like sometimes you're on the phone with your friend and she's like, I don't know if I'm going to come over yet. I'm like maybe later and like, you're like, just come over now. And she's like, but I have things to do. Like that's how I feel right now. I'm like, we're just, we're on the phone anyway. Just come over and you're like, sorry, I'm in LA. My mom's not letting me. Also, because I went into like a formal studio to record. So normally when we record virtually, I'm also like sitting on the floor, but now I'm like, I really do feel like I'm literally interviewing me. It's making me uncomfortable. I'm like, I have K 18 in my hair right now and like aqua for on my toes. Like I'm vulnerable. Weird stuff is going on. Other people are there and they're listening to me and I don't know what they look like. That freaks me out. I also, I have to get my nails done after this and I'm going to freak out. I'm going to cry. I'm literally crying. I mean, this is like not a, oh, here's the other thing. This is like a Sunday evening. We're recording on Sunday. This is, there's a lot of weird energy happening. Sundays are weird vibes. Yeah, because weird energy. You're, you're like, you're sad about the weekend ending, but you're also very anxious about the next week starting. So there's no positives anywhere you look. We're scared. But like on Sunday night, you have to like look at your calendar for a week, like for like the week ahead and you like mentally have to be like, it's actually like not even that bad. Like you made it sound like it was so much worse than it is. And like, that's actually going to be fun. And I literally talked to yourself like you're your own child. Like you're going to have a great time. I've been trying to tell myself it's not going to be, it's not going to be as bad as you think it's going to be. But I do this new thing now that I look at my calendar and whatever is really pissing me off. Like, I'm like, I'm canceling it. You actually, okay. You said something a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago that you wanted to have like boundaries where you're like, no, I'm not doing it. In the past month, you've texted me things. Hey, I don't want to do this. And I'm like, great. Some of the things I don't need there. I'm not even made abreast of them. I said no to things you haven't even heard of. Wait, would you say I say no to things that yet you haven't even heard? Have I been happening? You're like, do you want to do this? Is it your dream? And I'm like, I don't even know what you're speaking about. Yeah, cancel it. There is a positive. There is a light happening right now. I bought a furbo. Now, let me just say I was having a weird like wireless headphone thing with furbo for a while. Like, even though you showed me Daphne on your furbo all tour, I was like, yeah, but mine's not going to work. Like, how do you use a phone? How do you use an iPhone? Like seriously, how do you text? But also, like when you get it, you have to install it like over. It just doesn't plug it in. No, we plug it in. There's no installation. You plug it in and you download the app. This is so like when there's something that's going to take one minute, but like you take eight months stressing over it. So I finally got a furbo for butter. And it is so incredible. Because when I'm away from her, I think she's at home trying to slit her wrist. Like that's what I envision butter does when I'm gone. She's just like, where's my mom? I want to off myself. Turns out she's just sleeping on the couch. She's just sleeping on the couch. Living life. I know people are like get really mad at like massive companies where they're like that company should not be worth that much money. Furbo should. Furbo should. Serves all the money in the world. No, Furbo. Best invention. Furbo is the only thing to get you out of depression. Right before I went on stage, I was just looking at my Furbo and I'm saying, I love you, butter. I love you. And then I give her her treats and butter. But at first, the way butter was looking at me and Furbo, I got sad. But at least I was feeling something. You know, you immediately become Buddy D'Elf. You're like, amazing. I'll call you in five minutes. Like stay right there. I will see you in a second. I'm getting notifications. So they'll say, butters walking, butters chewing. Yeah. But I want to help know your cat better. So they're like, is your cat gagging right now? Yep. Apparently it seems so. Yes. Like they like to know. It's like after this podcast, I can go and they're going to review all the things butter's been up to because they can, their AI is incredible where they cut all the moments of the day I missed where butter did something cute. And then I watch it. It's so then one thing though, when I left, I thought Des was also leaving. And like a couple hours later, I go on the Furbo and I'm talking to her. It takes from Des. He goes, I'm fucking napping. So I woke him up. By the way, you can watch people on the Furbo. So I think Furbo is going to be the next thing where like people see like affairs happening. I'm sure it's I'm sure it's already happening. It's already like that is the thing. There's so many people that have like cameras in their rooms. I'm like, what are you? What's the camera for? Oh, no, I don't like that at all. I'm like, is that just your furbo? Like why are people putting so like, why do so many people have cameras in their rooms? Well, I was getting my makeup did and Des started talking to us through the Furbo and everyone got freaked out. But yeah, so the household has changed. The Furbo is kind of. No, it's the best. It's the best. But yeah, it keeps Des on. So Des is in Ireland now and I'm in LA. So that's eight hour difference. So we like are not going to see each other. You're divorced. We're divorced. Yeah, like there's like about one hour in the day when we're both awake. That's your dream. That's your dream. That is. So tricky with someone like you, because you have borderline narcolepsy. No, I know I sleep late. He's getting up early. We're just missing each other. But like, I think it's good even as a time is it there right now. You guys, even as a wife, play hard to get. Keep him on his toes. Be like, is she alive? Is she? Where is she? Is she going to come home today? Are we still married? Something I have to bring up. Hmm. I feel like straight men never have hand soap in their apartment. Well, occasionally they have a bar of soap, which is disgusting. They they have they never have both. They never have hand soap and a hand towel. Sometimes you get the soap, no towel. Sometimes you'll get the towel, no soap. They've never had a complete set. Boy bathroom is like next level crazy. Because men like I guess because they don't wash their hands after they pee, they like don't treat it like we do. I just want a moment to remember something that happened earlier today. And my mom called me and she goes, do you remember that outfit? It had like it was like a little pleated skirt and it had a matching jacket. And I was like from when and she was like, you were in kindergarten. Your conversations are so different than mine. And I and you knew you go, yeah, November 2nd. Yeah, of course. I go, yeah, of course. I remember that outfit. What about it? What about it is my question. What about it? Did she save your stuff? She has some stuff saved, but she's like me. Like, like if she doesn't remember something, like she'll remember by like what she was wearing or what I was wearing. And that's how I am to where I'm like, I don't remember that event. But if I if you tell me what I was wearing, then I'll know. That's like a very specific kind of mental illness. Very specific to us. Some people are visuals. Annoyed that she was like asking about it. I was like, yeah, obviously I remember that outfit. Wait, so we give limited to, you know what I want to wear? Like a tank top with like a little poncho over it. Like I want to those little ponchos. Is poncho the right word? Like a sheer like little cape, a sheer little cape or a furry one or a fluffy one or a cotton one. No, I love a poncho. I love a poncho. Like if I wear it, will people make fun of me? Who is Ponce de Lyons? What is that? Is that something in France? Ponce de Lyons. Yeah, what is that? It sounds like a guy in know that something. Ponce de Lyons. Ponce de Lyons. Sounds like you just cursed me out. Ponce de Lyons, you too. Ponce de Lyons. Bless you. Ponce de Lyons a bit. It's like an explorer. I was like so wrong. Where did you get what? I don't know that like made me think of it. Anyway, any who. Sorry, it's Sunday night. I have to like get all my weird feelings out. No, I know. Also, we just shared a meme on our Instagram about like, don't complain that we change the subject all the time. Like be thankful that we've talked about 18 different things in four minutes. Like sorry, we can squeeze it all in. If something pops in my head and I don't say it immediately, then I'm going to forget it and that's going to annoy me. I hate a long story. So like Ponce de Lyons. Ponce de Lyons. Also, you said it as if I was about to be like, yeah, I know who that is. Are you? I thought I was being like so stupid and it was like a really famous thing in France that you were. Yeah, obviously. I'm so stupid. I think I'm crying. By the way, have I ever known anything historically? No, but like you love Paris. You always are. No, but like your favorite. I don't know anything about wars. I think like when I was younger, I started talking about wars. I was like, I don't like I don't like this. I don't like what it stands for. I don't support it. And therefore I'm not going to process any of this information. That's how it was about math. Like it's my biggest fear to go on a game show. And they're like, when was the war of 1812? I'd be like, no idea. Like are you smarter than a fifth grader? Like that is like a humiliation ritual that I would never be a part of. They had Travis Kelsey hosting. No, and that's great casting. It's so funny. But occasionally on those like TikToks where they ask people basic facts, I'll do well on it and my head will get big for a second. It's because you're like not under pressure. Like I couldn't like even like Billy Eichner being like name a woman. I know. Wait, that's I do have to say when the camera is on you, you blank. You blank out. I don't remember my own name. Jimmy Fallon's like, hi, I'm Jimmy. I'm like, I'm Jimmy too. Hi. That's what you do. One other thought. Mm hmm. I'm really into broccoli omelettes right now. OK. But no one has it available. So where are you getting them? Well, OK, my grandma would make like broccoli for Tata's, which is very Italian. But this thing you love you like broccoli, Rob, the brock of Rob. But when you have broccoli in an omelette, it tastes like potato. So it tastes like a hat. Just bear with me. Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, broccoli. Kind of taste like potato in an omelette. I'm going to try that. Because I love broccoli. So we you know what I've been doing recently? This is like so weird, but like amazing. Yeah, I've been getting just like frozen peas. OK. And putting them in the microwave and like steam a bowl like making frozen. Yeah, then put then opening the package, putting butter in it and eating it with. Wait, I've just been eating peas. I don't know if that's legal. I'm like, why are people talking about this? They do that for babies. They mush up the peas. Yeah, basically, that's what I mean. Wait, I did get on a weird tic-tac algorithm of moms making food for their kids that they also eat. So they're like, we're getting why not? Like, I'm sorry, I'm not. You're not just eating chicken nuggets. If you're getting chicken nuggets, mom is getting chicken nuggets, too. I'm scared I'm going to have a baby and I'm just going to change my whole personality. I'm going to be a freak and I'm going to be like, I'm making mashed carrots today. I can't podcast. You want to do that so bad, but you you're always freaky behind the scenes. Yeah, wait, what are we talking about? I feel like next thing you know, you're going to be mashing up peas, putting it on your face, telling me it's good for your pores. Well. Don't tell me. But this is my thing. I know that I'm sure there's something there. Who decided that when you go to a diner, they're like, OK, I'm with spinach, I'm with peppers, with onions. Where's the broccoli option? You want me to be healthy? You don't give me a broccoli option. And then if I ask for broccoli, I'm a fucking nerd. It's like when I ask for apple juice. It's almost like you see more asparagus than you do broccoli. No, I know. And I feel like broccoli's PR team is slacking. It's like not on top of it, not on top of it. I never order an omelet, so I don't care about this cause. I could tell when I started the life diet in your eyes when I started talking about it. Supporting it here. I'm here nor there. I'm speaking up for the omelet community that doesn't get spoken for. And it doesn't affect me. So like, what are you eating? Granola. Peas. Why don't people do? No, I'm getting like if I'm going to a diner, I'm getting a fried egg, bacon and toast. Yeah. Hashbrowns. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, why don't people put peas and omelets? That's disgusting. Peas are to be eaten on their own with butter. Or at Thanksgiving or with a chicken. I do have to say peas with like a little bacon or if you're Italian pancetta with a little onion. Oh, oh, my, oh, my, oh, oh, stop. Stop. Mushroom. Oh, oh, don't stop. I got to go. You guys, we ended on a high note. 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