The Pat McAfee Show

PMS 2.0 1529 - Final Four Recap, National Championship Preview, Jim Nantz, Shaquille O'Neal LIVE From The ThunderDome, Coach K, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

149 min
Apr 6, 202622 days ago
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Summary

The Pat McAfee Show covered the NCAA Final Four championship game between UConn and Michigan, featured interviews with Jim Nantz, Shaquille O'Neal, and Coach K, and discussed major sports moments including Cooper Flagg's rookie season, the Masters golf tournament, and WWE WrestleMania preparations with Randy Orton positioned as the business savior.

Insights
  • Dan Hurley's UConn team has proven to be a consistent underdog winner with an 18-1 against-the-spread record in tournament games, suggesting coaching excellence and team resilience matter more than talent disparity in high-stakes games
  • The college sports landscape is rapidly evolving with executive orders on NIL regulations, transfer portal rules, and the hiring of NBA coaches (Mike Malone to UNC) indicating a fundamental shift toward professionalization of college athletics
  • Dominant tournament performances (like Michigan's) can mask vulnerabilities when facing experienced, well-coached teams with different playing styles and tempos, making spread predictions unreliable despite statistical dominance
  • Personal rituals and superstitions (Hurley's suit, rosary, unwashed underwear) in high-pressure coaching suggest psychological factors and team culture may be underestimated in sports analysis
  • Cross-sport athlete branding and business diversification (Shaq's 370+ businesses, DJ Diesel, gummies) demonstrates the modern athlete's ability to monetize beyond their primary sport through authentic personal brand extension
Trends
College sports professionalization through NBA coach hiring and executive order regulation attemptsNIL market consolidation and guardrail implementation via SCORE Act-inspired executive ordersTransfer portal and multi-transfer restrictions creating labor law challenges in college athleticsAthlete-to-entertainment crossover (DJing, music, business ventures) becoming standard for elite athletesCoaching temperament and superstition gaining recognition as performance factors in sports analysisBig Ten conference dominance across multiple sports (basketball, hockey, women's sports) in 2026Rookie NBA player performance metrics (Cooper Flagg) reshaping draft evaluation and ROY conversationsWomen's college basketball gaining mainstream attention and investment (UCLA championship, WNBA trades)Stadium and venue selection impact on team performance being questioned and tested (Lucas Oil Stadium sight lines)Sports betting integration into mainstream broadcast commentary and audience engagement
Topics
NCAA Final Four Championship Game StrategyDan Hurley's Tournament Coaching Record and MethodologyCollege Basketball Transfer Portal and NIL RegulationsCooper Flagg Rookie Season Performance AnalysisMasters Golf Tournament Broadcasting and CoverageWomen's College Basketball Championship (UCLA)WNBA Trade Market (Angel Reese to Atlanta Dream)WWE WrestleMania 42 and Randy Orton's 15th World TitleMike Malone Hiring at UNC and NBA-to-College Coaching TransitionsShaquille O'Neal Business Empire and DiversificationCollege Sports Executive Order and SCORE Act ImplementationBig Ten Conference Dominance Across SportsCoaching Superstitions and Team Culture ImpactSports Betting Against-the-Spread AnalysisAthlete Personal Branding and Entertainment Crossover
Companies
ESPN
Masters golf tournament broadcast partner; Jim Nantz serves as primary announcer for the event
CBS Sports
Broadcasts Masters golf tournament and NFL games; Jim Nantz's primary employer for 41 years
Reebok
Shaq announced as president of Reebok basketball; potential shoe deal negotiations discussed
Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone's former NBA team before being hired at UNC; 2023 NBA championship coach
Dallas Mavericks
Cooper Flagg's NBA team; Jason Kidd coaching Flagg at point guard position
Chicago Sky
Angel Reese traded away to Atlanta Dream in WNBA transaction
Atlanta Dream
Acquired Angel Reese in trade; positioned as championship contender in WNBA
Los Angeles Lakers
LeBron James and Brony James playing; discussed playoff positioning and health concerns
Golden State Warriors
Steph Curry's return from injury; discussed in GOAT conversation alongside other elite players
Pittsburgh Pirates
Baseball team on winning streak with viral 'hoist the cone' merchandise and culture
San Antonio Spurs
Shaq's favorite NBA team; Wembanyama discussed as generational talent
New York Knicks
Shaq's Eastern Conference favorite; mentioned for playoff potential
WWE
Randy Orton positioned to win 15th world title at WrestleMania; business narrative focus
Shacklicious
Shaq's gummy company; official gummy of the NCAA Final Four
DraftKings
Sports betting platform; discussed for NCAA championship game wagering
British Gas
Sponsor with peak save electricity pricing promotion
The Chainsmokers
Musical performance group at Final Four; performed at halftime entertainment
People
Jim Nantz
Masters golf tournament announcer for 41 years; discussed broadcasting philosophy and career
Shaquille O'Neal
Discussed business empire (370+ companies), gummy brand, and competitive Thunderdome Olympics
Coach K (Mike Krzyzewski)
Analyzed Final Four matchup, discussed coaching transitions from NBA to college, and college sports regulation
Dan Hurley
UConn coach with 18-1 against-the-spread tournament record; featured in championship game analysis
Dusty May
Michigan coach leading dominant tournament team; discussed coaching style and team preparation
Cooper Flagg
Rookie sensation with 50+ point games; discussed as future face of NBA and GOAT candidate
LeBron James
41-year-old player still performing at elite level; discussed alongside Brony James in family dynamic
Randy Orton
Positioned as business savior with 15th world title win at WrestleMania; central narrative theme
Tony Romo
NFL broadcast partner with Jim Nantz; discussed broadcasting style and authenticity in commentary
Mike Malone
Hired as UNC basketball coach; discussed NBA-to-college coaching transition challenges
Lauren Betts
6'7" women's basketball player from Spain; led UCLA to first national championship
Angel Reese
Traded from Chicago Sky to Atlanta Dream; discussed as championship contender acquisition
Caitlin Clark
Mentioned in context of WNBA rivalry and Indiana basketball prominence
Darius Butler
Nine-year NFL veteran; attended Final Four and provided basketball analysis
AJ Hawk
College football national champion; provided sports analysis and championship predictions
Pat McAfee
Host of the show; discussed potential Masters attendance and wrestling business narrative
Ty Schmidt
Attended Final Four; participated in championship game analysis and Thunderdome Olympics
Connor
Participated in Final Four coverage and championship game predictions
Sydney Crosby
Achieved 21 consecutive seasons with point-per-game average; hockey legend milestone
Joe Adell
Robbed three home runs in single game (1 in 190 million odds); baseball highlight
Quotes
"I call it from right here I call it from the heart. Now when I'm calling football games I have all kinds of spotting boards, but the Masters you're spare to begin with, you've got that custom melody as an undercurrent and you let it breathe and you let your heart speak for you."
Jim NantzMasters broadcasting philosophy discussion
"I wanted to be the most dominant. I want these motherfuckers to know when I walk on the floor that it's about to be a long night."
Shaquille O'NealGOAT conversation
"First of all I think yeah have fun you know don't be tight. Fun is a big thing, fight is another and then forever. So there are three F's and if you do those first two things you're going to be remembered forever."
Coach KChampionship game pregame advice
"Dan Hurley is on an 18 and one against the spread in the NCAA tournament, which is absurd. When he gets to the sweet 16, he's 11 and 0 against the spread."
AnalystUConn championship game analysis
"Randy Orton saving the business at WrestleMania. You're welcome. That's what he's gonna do. Maybe even you AJ."
Pat McAfeeWWE WrestleMania narrative
Full Transcript
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Overreaction National Championship Monday, April 6th, 2026, this program begins now. Sports! Are the greatest. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. I hope you had a fantastic Easter weekend, a fantastic sports weekend, and today we have so much to talk about. Not only is it Masters Week, Masters of golf! Obviously that tees off on Wednesday at noon on ESPN, which would lead some people to maybe want to ask, hey, could we potentially do that? Obviously the standards that the Masters are, what they are, we would never expect to be accepted, but since it does start at noon on ESPN, we felt obligated over the last three years to ask. We appreciate and understand the fact that they say no. We're just letting you know there's still a very high standard with the way the Masters is going to be covered, and it's certainly going to be electrifying on Wednesday for the par three contest, and then into the weekend where stories and legends will be made and created. As you roll down Magnolia there, and the patrons are sitting in the side of the thingy, and then they're golfing so damn fantastic. It is a magical weekend for golf and for sports, and ESPN getting to kick it all off on Wednesday is certainly fantastic. It's not just that, the national championships tonight, boys. That's right! Oh, big night tonight. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, con man, you guys are at the Final Four this weekend at Lucas Oil Stadium. I feel like the game was a little bit zoomed out from where the tickets were, but I do know it was an electrifying time downtown, and tonight, Yukon and Dan Hurley with a litany of dogs, led by Carabine, who's the senior who Hurley said he'll never be able to find another. He'll never be able to coach another. This man's an absolute beast. The freshman, Mullins back in Indiana doing his thing just about 20 minutes north of where he went to high school. He's now playing in Lucas Oil Stadium for a national championship in M.F. Michigan. I'll tell you what, they're coach. Ty, I love this man. I love everything about this guy. Starting in Indiana as an equipment manager. Now he's the head coach at Michigan. Now he's led this team back to the conversation of like Fab Five, but even better somehow. Representing the Big Ten. Petitie in attendance. And whenever you think about Dusty May, you think, wow, is that guy tall enough to win a basketball championship? It appears as if he is maybe a little bit shorter than anybody else that he encounters. But on that note, you listen to him talk, this guy's got basketball pulse. Oh yeah. He's a higher body. Always smiling, always seemingly happy. And whenever they release the video of him talking to the boys, this guy's a motivator in the purist forums. Wow, you don't need a score. You don't need a score. You know, we need a score. Everybody take a deep breath now. There it is. This guy's been there, done that. Everybody breathe out now. Yeah. You're talking about complete control of a team, complete control of a squad. And this squad has been dominating everybody. It's been playing basketball against. Can that continue against Dan Hurley tonight? Dan Hurley has a phenomenal record, both against the spread and in general, this late in the tournament. But what Michigan has been doing and being favored by six and a half points, history tells us they're just going to continue to do that. Is Dan Hurley just going to roll over? A couple of guys not on the injury report, which is big news for Yukon, obviously feels like they're going to try to be somewhere near healthy. But you put them on injury report, they go out there, they can't go. You can say, oh, we thought he was good. It's the last game of the season. There's really nothing else you have to really project for. But what we do know is it's going to be electric in Lucas O Stadium. We know the Michigan fans are live. They were there. They were very loud. They got the money to take all the tickets because he's our sweet $55,000. Thank you. Thank you very much. Wow. Nine year NFL fan, Darrius J. Butler. What was that reaction? That was a legitimate reaction. Wow. Yeah, I got a, I was with a daughter got a chance to see, you know, a second Final Four game going down there. I'm very thankful that I got down there when everybody was already in the stadium. I guess downtown was obviously hectic. It was crazy, but everybody wanted to be at this because it is spectacular. And I love all the compliments coming to Indianapolis about being a host city. Feels like people are reminded every time they come here about how great everything is, walkable. Also the weather pretty good. Started to rain on Saturday. Yeah. A little bit too much. Still nice. But Thursday Friday leading into it, it was like 72 in like perfect around downtown. It's been spectacular. Can Yukon win another? Yeah. Michigan. They can. They will. That's a Yukon grad right there. Came in wearing a Yukon jersey. How do you feel about how the games have gone and congrats to you and the Yukon Huskies? It's been a good Final Four. You mentioned it earlier. Michigan has been dominant. And yes, they do have the money, enough money to go buy a brand new damn team. I think they have one star. Because everybody wanted that. You know, maybe that's what's wrong with, no, it's a great matchup. We do. Obviously we have a caravan who's been there. He only trails Christian Leighton when it comes to wins in this part of the year. March madness. And look, it's February. It's March. And then it's Hurley. We're chasing number seven here. We've had Jim Calhoun. We had Kevin Olly. He got one. And now Darren Hurley is trying to get number three. And we're coming here with the dogs. We were dogs against Duke way back in 99. We're dogs against Kentucky 2014, I believe. So we'll get it done. We don't lose this. Dogs against Illinois. Hurley said we just beat him by 13. Illinois. That was so disrespectful. I liked that Dan said that. It was. It really was. It truly was. But look, we got dogs. I trust Dan. We're six and only a big game. I believe Michigan one and six in this game. So I think we get number seven tonight. That's a handbow stat that got sent in earlier today. Dan Hurley in title game, six and 0. Sorry, Yukon, six and 0. Not Dan Hurley yet. Maybe someday he'll get to that. And then Michigan one and six. Does that matter? Brand new team. This is Dusty Mays, boys. I don't think they're looking backwards on any of the Wolverine stuff of the past. Unless the basketball gods decide to curse them, which could certainly be something that takes place. But tonight, what are the odds saying? One half of the hammer. Die. Cowboys AP town. Blending in a rear bow. Cowboys. Trying to. Yeah. I don't know if the Michigan stats, whatever the one and six matters, but I tell you what does matter. Dan Hurley is on an 18 and one against the spread in the NCAA tournament, which is absurd. Oh, and once he gets to the sweet 16, when the competition heats up, he's 11 and 0 against the spread in the college basketball tournament. So yeah, Dan Hurley's record matters. But tonight, six and a half, as you said, it's actually interesting. So Yukon is getting 52% of the money line bets. So they're saying like, Hey, if they're going to cover, they're going to win. Michigan is getting 63% of the against the spread bets. So the people that like Michigan think that it's going to be a blowout. So Yukon money line, Michigan against the spread is where the money is at right now. Michigan's been beaten that ass. Command you went down to the final four. Everybody seemingly left at about half time of Michigan, Arizona, because what Michigan was doing at that time, you also had a chance to sit alongside an Illinois fan. I do believe while Yukon was doing what they were doing to Illinois. How was the final four experience? And what are you looking forward to tonight that maybe people should keep an eye out for as somebody that has been in the building? Is there a repeat musical performance that'll maybe drive the folks while boy? I hope so. Chainsmokers delivered on all fronts. If you weren't there and you're watching through TV, I could see how people might say this sucks. However, we happen to be there. So it was magnificent. The pyro, the smoke at one point, it felt like pyro probably would have played better during the beat drop of one of the songs and they went to go with smoke. But that's just the Chainsmokers baby. That part? Roses, yeah. It might have been during Roses. I knew a lot of those songs. I'm like, is this their song or somebody else's song? Because they're kind of DJing a little bit, but then old buddy comes out and starts singing. It's like, okay, I like what we're doing. I don't fully remember if Chainsmokers are just a DJ and then also DJ singer. Every time I see them until old buddy starts singing, I'm like, oh yeah, also we're singing here. We're just making music. Did you hear the backstory? What? Chainsmokers were at a wedding the night before. Seriously? Yeah, tearing it down. I mean, these guys were at a wedding tearing it down. Did the sound check in the tuxedo from the wedding the night before? Class. Actually, a selfie video going, oh, I hope this nap works. And then guess what? It did. Yup. Chainsmokers delivered and played a bunch of songs. Still don't know which ones are theirs and which one they're DJing. But I think that's like a perfect show setup for them. And watching through a TV, it sounded like you guys in a stadium were not having a good time. No. No, I just want to let you know that's what it sounded like while watching through a TV. You were going nuts. Yeah, we were going nuts. You were going nuts? Oh yeah. You were going crazy? Yeah, I wanted the one song that we ain't ever getting old around. And obviously that's the last song they performed before the teams come back out. The entire arena felt like it was going to collapse under itself. No chance. What? Singer was, Singer performed. I didn't know he was tearing it down and I performed until I saw the video. I was actually thinking to myself, guys, pretty good life. Yeah. It's a good performance right here. Well, I know he's out boozing all night, which is basically just the boom. Old school dudes. Dude, it is our old school dudes. They asked me at one point, so we're going to take it back to 2015. It was like kind of a shock to themselves. I think they crushed. I think tonight I wonder who's going to be in town. I think Post performed over the weekend around town. Zach Brown performed over the weekend at the Coca-Cola stage. I think there's been a, Meg Moroney was here. I did not know that. I assume you do. I think so. Okay, you're saying that. She was on the poster, so. Okay, so we assume she came. Luke Combs was here. Nice. I think recipe's by the way, Haggard. Murr-Haggard. Yeah, sure. Born and died today. You did good, Haggard. Hell yeah. Miss you, Murr-Haggard. You did a mom and a try. No. Just couldn't get through. Rest in peace to Haggard. But on that note, Indianapolis has been electrifying for the Final Four. We appreciate it happening here and we are excited to watch tonight. Now, it's not just basketball. Okay. It's not just football stuff. Our show likes to do things that keep people under note. Don't you think we do that, D-Bike? Absolutely. So we took it upon ourselves this morning to put together the top five with a couple of things that we missed. We'll call them honorable mentions. Top five things of the weekend that we would like to hit for you. Now, this was a segged during the NFL season. We drifted away and every once in a while we're going to do that. But then you wake up on this particular Monday and there's so many things that happen. It's like we need to go through a top five, couple of things that missed. Let's get right to it. Number five, headline of the weekend. I pledge allegiance to the flag with two G's in his last name. It feels as if he is a man that has never been made the same. First year at Point Guard and he's a star. One for fifty-one and forty-five for ninety-six points for the first time since World Chamber Long. Jeez. This dude is a monster. Just a couple of days ago, his odds to win the rookie of the year were terrible. Conn Canipple made one for 250 plus threes and did his thing for the Hornets was going to win it. It was his new teammate. And then over the weekend, Cooper Flag said, how about this? I'm going to go absolutely crazy. Youngest guy to do multiple things over the weekend. He has like five forty point games. Now he has a fifty plus game. He could have had another fifty plus game last night if he was a little bit more greedy towards the end on the fouls. On the inbound passes at the end of a game, especially whenever you're playing against Lakers, number three in the West, obviously the Mavs are completely out of it, but the Lakers were still in it because LeBron James was carrying the Lakers last night. He could have started free throw chasing there and he's not going to miss those. The free throws don't even come close to touching the rim. This guy's got handles. He's got moxies, got power, he's got gritties, got talent. And he was on the show. He's fantastic. He feels like he has everything. Now the Mavrics should have never got him. Okay, we all know that. No reason went into lottery, but I love the type of player he is and he's going to be playing for the next twenty years, D-butt, especially with the modern sciences that we think we have. Yeah, I love when these guys who are tag generation or the next great one and all these different things actually live up to the hype and obviously as early, but what he's doing right now on paper and we talked to him. We had some stats when he was on the show about the other guys that he's kind of on the short list with. He's unbelievable. On both sides of the court, he plays hard, but offensively for him to have a bag like this, as a rookie is super, super impressive. And look, he is on a shitty Dallas Mavrics team right now. Kyrie's out. Anthony Davis got traded. So he's been the focal point since day one. I think that'll help him down the line when they do get a healthier team, you know, further on in his career. He will be, I think this will be a team and obviously a player forced to be recommended for a long, long time. We have Shaquille O'Neal live in the Thunder down, we hope. We hope. We hope. He's got a lot of events going on today. We hope he decides to make the trip to the Thunder down from downtown. We'll be very grateful for it. Excited for his thoughts on what this Cooper flag experience could be. Cause I think it's just, I don't know. I assume he played point guard in Maine, whenever he was in high school and then maybe in high school down in Florida too. Maybe they had him at point guard, but I didn't really see it that much. Him in the NBA just high, high. And then Jason Kidd is his coach who's like, renowned one of the greatest point guards of all time to have the trust in him to do that. And then I felt like there was a couple of conversations between LeBron and Jason Kidd, which is a very fascinating thing. LeBron James, 41 years old. Okay. Yeah. Last night. All these coaches, JJ, all these coaches he's played against for 20 years, 10 years on the court and all, let alone all the assistant coaches, he had a full handshake with the assistant coach of the Mavs. Did a full thing after the game. I was like, gee, he's probably teammate with that guy for like 15 years at this point. Still doing no look passes. I mean, we're talking about filthy shit diving on the ground up and unders. Obviously his son's playing. I think that's motivating him to continue to go. But like, I understand LeBron gets a lot of hate because he's been in a spotlight since he's 17, actually like 15 years old. So the more people are going to hate on him, it's absurd what he's doing as a 41 year old human being, just a human being as a 41 year old. It is absolutely absurd what he's been able to do on that note. Cooper Flagner boys beat that ass. Yes they did. But it was always it. They were always in it. The Lakers were always in it. So at the end there's like free throw stuff. I think Cooper ended up with 43 or 45 or something like that. So two possessions where he could have got found and got two more and stole maybe another 50 point game if you wanted to. But the Mavs were doing it all right. Hopefully this guy, massive success story coming out in New England. Yeah, huge success. And even if you go back to recent memory like Wemby, Wemby had a couple of years where they were awful. They were picking in the lottery and then those picks ended up going huge for them. And that's probably what will happen with Dallas and Cooper Flag maybe depending on whoever takes over as GM. One of the best moments of yesterday was when Brony was actually trying to pass it to his dad. But it got like deflected. It wasn't a great pass. Got deflected out of bounds. And LeBron looked at Brony like, hey, throw me the ball, ass hat. Like you're my son, but you still have to perform. Like that's that. So late in the game funny moment. LeBron's driving. Brony wants ball at three. I think he's wide open. I think he is wide open. LeBron, no, we're doing. He was carrying the Lakers yesterday. Oh, big time. He was a full on. I think he went out of bounds or whatever. But it was just like a funny thought of like, does he feel obligated to toss the ball to his boy? Hey, there's less than a minute left here. We're in this game. I'm sorry about it. And on that note, Brony made a couple of big threes in the corner late. Maybe one. I don't know about a couple, but I appreciate what they've done. I like LeBron a lot. But LeBron straight out of high school, obviously into the NBA dominant. Cooper Flag would be out of high school. He reclassified in high school. So he skipped a year of high school to graduate early. Went to one year at Duke. Now he's in the NBA. That's old school. That's what used to happen back in the day. You know, back when high schoolers were high schoolers before the one and done. And on that note with the Lakers, the Lakers doctors and his own medical team, Luke is heading over your. Yep, got to. Got a hamstring on the go on every year. You know what they got over there that we don't got over here. It's not illegal, but it's certainly much easier to get over there than it is over here. Many sports have done this in the past because the leagues don't test for this stuff. Okay. So they don't think it's a competitive advantage, but some governments are a little bit more lenient on some things than other things. Yeah. And I just hope whatever he does over there, I hope it works because he could be in the MVP conversation if he obviously played the right amount of games over that 65. But he is unbelievable. Every time he touched the floor, he's box office. You want him on the court. You want Austin Reeves on the court along with LeBron right now. There are three tie for three in the West, I believe. So we'll see if they can make a run. But obviously they need Lucas to have any chance to win the whole thing. Lucas maybe forced Austin Reeves into that plane to Europe. Hey, bud, they got a groin injury. He's also out for the regular season. So they're currently number three in the West. They will certainly make the playoffs. I've already clinched the playoffs. Well, they'd be fully healthy and ready to go on a run. Steph Curry's back. He won bananas last night. That was good to see. Missed the game winner, but him being all the way back, they're obviously in the playing game world down there at the bottom of the table in the Western conference. It's like basketball starting to heat up. Let's remember that. We got to keep an eye on it. Cooper Flagg would not be in the playoffs. So we felt obligated to say, hey, this guy's outrageous. Go to number four headline. Congratulations, UCLA Women's Roots. Yeah. Hey, Stree May. Remember, UCLA obviously known for men's basketball teams. I mean, we got a statue here, Indianapolis, Indiana, for their men's basketball team all the way over there with Mr. Wooden. Now the UCLA women winning their first title. And let me tell you, Lauren Betts right there, 22-year-old from Spain originally, moved over to America in third grade, which I've been told is about eight, nine years old. Eight, nine years old. Can't wait to get there with Baby Girl Mackenzie. She's taller than you, faster than you, and seemingly more athletic than you are. We had a hyah in the final four with like 13 seconds. I was a block in the paint. That was just absurd. They all got silky dance moves. After they won, they take the stage. They start dancing. The moxies out. Yeah. Hey, we got four. Ah-ha. Ah-ha. We worked on that. Lady in the jackets, like, please don't fall off the stage. I don't know how. She looks comfortable. I don't know how forward we're going with this dance. Please don't fall off the stage. Here's Louise. Okay. I don't know where we're getting the title. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Carolina was favorite coming into this game then sufferin the 28 point losses back to back years now for South Carolina Don Staley get blown out and look I love Don Staley as well three-time champ the shit with Gino and I'm a Gino guy I'm sure you're through and through I'm a Gino guy he's a baby that was bullshit I thought he was weak but yeah this game and Don Staley after the game she said I don't want to make it about that it's about the UCLA Bruins and they did their damn thing that was an impressive impressive win Lauren Betz is a problem yeah we need to get her to fever speaking of women's basketball huge trade this morning on the docket Angel Reese no longer a member of the Chicago Sky what traded the Atlanta dream wow congratulations Alana that's you that was number three team in WNBA last year behind Minnesota in the aces yeah okay so Atlanta dreams right on doorstep of knocking down the dynasty of Las Vegas aces but look out I heard Caitlyn Clarks back in Indiana what we have a trailer right do we have it Taylor Wilkes breaking Angel Reese had the Atlanta dream sources tell me the Atlanta dream in Chicago sky have agreed to a trade okay April 6th 2026 each trade season for the WNBA let's remember that Angel Reese goes from a Chicago Sky team that was you know it kind of on the bubble of going to the playoffs in a rivalry with Indiana because yeah Clark to Atlanta a real championship contender now let's also acknowledge another basketball thing that happened this weekend what oh a college basketball team won a tournament in April Auburn what yeah they nothing they won the NIT right we're not talking about the not good work we're not talking about that no I don't think so tournament sure sure we're talking about the fucking crown round now honor half baby now oh what's your name one 300,000 that's good we should put that directly to an NIL to keep this guy on the team yeah he won 300,000 I mean I was gonna go but I will say honor Huff in the semifinals had to make three consecutive threes at the end of regulation to send it over time in which he went crazy and then he goes yeah absurd in the championship and I'll tell you what he's got all this guy is unbelievable we also like a six foot a hundred guy in number 55 I don't know enough about him obviously it's been a few months since our basketball season ended and now we're winning another tournament which I appreciate but the boys are good the boys are great and I'm incredibly proud of them getting a dub worry is transfer portal starts tomorrow yeah and honor Huff just certainly showcased the world who he is honor we love you mountaineers let's go win a real one next year that's right I'll just aim left amount of door warm up yeah Ross had teeth in we got 300,000 bucks in Vegas yesterday we got three I thought it was a lot more money than I was gonna say I'll cover about a fourth or it's gonna keep costs to keep him around but what about the other guys doing well those guys gonna be just fine yeah it's honor Huff's team it certainly is honor Huff's team and I'll tell you what we'll put him up against anybody especially now that's big 12 don't even have anybody represented in a national championship we can conference these big 12 kind of wide open right now so maybe if they don't put those LED boards all over yeah maybe don't put the other boards all over West Virginia didn't want to go in that tournament because the LED boards the women did our women won West Virginia men's didn't congrats on winning the crown and potentially us losing out all our good players Lynch that's what the crowns for now that we know honor Huff's the senior okay that was his last game okay honor good luck in the NBA she's this guy's a shader I've missed a lot of good basketball yeah oh man way to go out I have a glad year hey he's from he is from Brooklyn that makes sense the way he plays is electrifying he's throwback he's throwback I don't know I think a lot play five years dies I heard there's an executive board yeah yeah so we watched the round table in college sports it was on like X or something I forget what it was on a couple weeks back everybody remembers coach Saban was invited the commissioners are all invited the head of the Yankees yeah Randy Levin yep he did a lot of talking certainly then a couple of members politicians center I don't know what the fuck they all a little bit little bit everybody all the ones they all talk basically what we didn't know this round table discussion was inevitably gonna be was a lobby for the score act to be passed the score act was something that was already created to hopefully put on guardrails to college sports where it has like capped NIL market comps like everything like that like literally everybody in this round table discussion that spoke was like the score act has all the answers the score act has all the answers score act was not approved by judge okay so it went through all this it goes it doesn't get approved by judge it gets kicked down the road so this thing became basically a lobby for the score act he signs executive order that is basically what the score act was those kind of piece together by a lot of different parties okay I think a lot of different political parties ran on this as well there's just a couple of people that are maybe way out on it that didn't get it passed and in that round table discussion I believe it ended with President Trump saying well all right so I'll sign an executive order and then we'll get sued and then we'll see how it goes into courts that was basically what he said at the end of that thing feels like he took the first step of that here with this and will there be guardrails from outlined from the score act going forward we shall see but we all understand the college sports are amazing yeah especially this weekend I mean this is the best Indianapolis has looked incredible long time year the winds out every the energy the positive vibes to yeah it's all positive like college sports are amazing obviously being able to conserve it forever will be great but let's also not ruin this thing okay let's not ruin this entire thing now speaking of ruining something we thought maybe a misprint on a t-shirt might ruin some stuff but I want to let you know if you go back the last five games of the MLB season the best team in baseball the Pittsburgh Pirates and their hoisting yeah baby yeah it's gonna be in the baseball hoist the cone yeah a t-shirt that was completely wrong that is now taking on a life of its own in this baby brought a city back to baseball we're hosting the ground in Pittsburgh hell yeah hoist the cone five and over the last five and guess what we had a 19 year old from Mississippi who is an absolute sensation but it's not just the buck goes although we should certainly talk about them they might be the hottest and best team in the game with the best gimmick in the game now just wait until they very early in the baseball so very early there's a lot of things you can do with this obviously the whole one hand do the whoop-de-woops you do the whole whoop the how and then a lifty here so tone baseball is bringing it and mostly because the Pirates can you please tell me about baseball being awesome right now who is that so there's a cone in the dugout there's also a cone in a bullpen and that's bullpen culture out there he's voicing the come cones are everywhere around the city it's awesome right now that's gonna see he's always on a construction never gets your job done yes buck goes winning five in a row everyone in the city's got buck oh fever Connor Griffin obviously getting called up getting an extension it hasn't become official yet but we're waiting on that he hits the dub RBI double to the Connor corner in his first at bat 333 on base percentage he absolutely is he's hitting okay he's got wheels and in the field he's been amazing the Pirates how it's been awesome everyone's hitting only all cruises hitting bombs Rhino herds hitting bombs brand a loud who they brought over sitting bomb the Pirates on a roll right now okay okay yeah yeah that's good for baseball very going really really well so there's six and three there's three teams that are seven and two right now they have the best records in baseball they are ties New York Yankees the Los Angeles Dodgers who are the reigning world World Series champions and walkie-mockie brewers who you know also very very good baseball team last year so all the teams that they thought were gonna be good are gonna be good as far as those three teams that are seven and two in baseball right now and then we had something happen this weekend in baseball that will surely never happen again angels right fielder Joe Adele okay oh he robbed not one this is Cal Rawley yeah he needed this yeah he needed this is top one it's like okay you you rob a Homer top one that one was awesome kind of right at him but he feels for the wall feels a running track or warning track makes a incredible play this is top eight okay one oh game does it basically the exact same play at the wall which was awesome okay that's two in a game no way to in a game that's crazy top nine down the right field line 350 feet down the line Joe Adele over the wall is that count yes yeah three Rob the home runs they're getting a Dell this dude's a monster lady took the photo right behind him was all phenomenal photo also I like the moxie on Adele he understands the situation the second one you saw him celebrate a little bit like yeah this one he had to feel like an absolute baseball god robbing home runs I know it happens every once in a while it's a huge part of the game you know you even practice that as a kid whenever you're on something I'm a robber home run even in football I think we even relate to it three in a game never been done for never will happen again no definitely not so just for context they tried to like come up with what the odds would be to rob three homers in the same game and they they said it was considered to be in the realm of one and a hundred and ninety million so like for context with that hitting four homers in a game is also like something that it's only been done 21 times in the history of baseball the odds for that are one in 1.2 million if you're just like an average hitter and like you know for guys like Judge Ohtani Schwerber they'd say be one in about a hundred and sixty thousand so one in a hundred and ninety million chance that you would rob three homers in a single game it will never happen again it definitely in our lifetimes maybe in the history of baseball how about how athletic old buddy is not the outfielders have to be fast is that what we're learning yeah outfielders have to be fast and have a host yeah that's what you have to have you have to have a an incredible throw and you have to be able to get everywhere yeah best athletes in the outfield center field so it depends usually the best athlete on the field is probably playing shortstop but like you have to be fast but also being able to track a fly ball while you're running at full speed and then still knowing like you'll see these guys putting their hands out to like find the wall like you just have to be very in tune with what's going on around you in the outfield so yeah I mean like this this is just absolutely incredible and like you said I mean just dejecting a guy like Cal Raleigh like that could be the thing that completely changes his season in the first inning and said he gets robbed of a Homer and goes hitless for the rest of the night there was a picture coming out of the Mariners clubhouse for their strategy for the next game and it literally just said don't hit towards a dough yeah that was it it's like I'm learning that these guys can aim when they're hitting it I think this guy should be a no fly zone for a little bit if you can keep it out of there what a stud congrats to him angels certainly outclassed in LA by the Dodgers team maybe Adele takes a trip over there like show hey did a couple The angels actually had offense the angels Jesus I just said get your guy out of there but you understand well they've been halfway decent this year because of the reemergence of Mike trout he's had a tough time you know being injured a bunch you got hit on the hand over the weekend X-rays were negative though so he doesn't have any broken bones he should be back but yeah the angels one of those teams where it's kind of you're just waiting for their season to be older over it hasn't really been the case like that thus far yeah and then one of the other cool stories from this weekend the Chicago White Sox who actually swept the Blue Jays this is Tristan Peters he used to play on the Savannah band and Anna's hit so easy for you and then and then and then that's hit a walk off yesterday which was I I didn't know I didn't even know this existed I didn't know Tristan Peters was a Savannah banana I didn't know he was in the MOB but learning about this this weekend was awesome all of it truly is B a and a and a yeah so you're in a middle of spelling it and saying at the same time congrats to him and a Savannah bananas I think this obviously brings a lot of legitimacy but it's very clear that they're good at baseball yeah you know like the Savannah bananas there's only so many people that can make it to the bigs I assume they got a lot of minor league guys in there I assume they got a lot of college guys in there get a look after having a big Savannah banana nasty night though right to the big leagues it's certainly a pipeline we learned that let's go to the number two headline we see of the weekend the unstoppable Yukon meets the immovable Michigan dusty may Dan Hurley battle to the death tonight at Lucas oil stadium Michigan favored by six and a half this team has been certainly dominant I mean it has been a blowout fest when the Michigan Wolverines are playing basketball throughout this internment they're obviously representing the Big Ten in a big way the Big Ten best conference in hoops all year they say we'll find out if they're able to topple the Big East and Dan Hurley's Yukon now Yukon women's basketball team obviously in the headlines for something a little bit different right now but do you come men's hoops team fun to watch they're a gritty group so gritty that Dan Hurley is actually 18 and one he's on 18 and one against spread run in tournament so they're always gonna be in it six and a half points feels like a lot of points for a Dan Hurley team but sports books know that he's been 18 and one against them as well they still like it why is that debug this Michigan team is just so damn dominant that they can't help but give away so many points I believe you said it earlier in the a block average margin of victory this year I think 18 points which is insane just put belt to ask Arizona so yeah we knew whoever came out of Arizona Michigan game probably still gonna be favorite over Yukon which is nuts to me but on paper they're more talented I think on the court when you see the actions that we have offensively you see how how tenacious we are especially big read down in the middle and then we have the veteran leadership with a K out there so solo as well who dealing with a foot injury but I think he'll go out there and play and give it a go so I'm it'll be look on paper Michigan they got all the things this could be the greatest Michigan team of all time if they get it done tonight but I trust Dan and the guys on the biggest stage six and oh in national championships he's two and oh himself I think he gets number three tonight I can't wait to see the atmosphere to feel the environment of a national championship down there at Lucas Oil Stadium con man who you betting on six and a half too many points to give away against Dan Hurley yeah wait you rich for my blood I'd take the six and a half all day but I don't know if I've ever seen a performance like we did on Saturday from Michigan there are multiple points throughout the entire game or is like okay boys Arizona we all bet on them this is where they go and then Michigan would hit like a step back three so that performance they put on makes me think there is a chance they can run away with it but you know Dan Hurley you know you know what this Yukon programs made out of moans in his hometown he finally got hot in the last game caravan looking for his 19th tournament win that is ridiculous when you think about a player's career but yeah I can still see Michigan absolutely rolling but six and a half is a lot six and a half a lot of points was seven and half drops down six and a half this morning still at a point where the stats hembo stats say that a team is favored by six and a half or more is like undefeated in these types of games like if the books think they're gonna win by that much they normally at least win with a cover we shall see number one story coming out of the weekend you guessed it Randy Orton saving the business at WrestleMania you know it was a fun time on Friday night letting the world know that yeah you remember when Randy Orton came on the show at the combine then you remember shortly after that I say I thought the business passed me by and then all of a sudden Randy's on the phone with somebody motivating dominating everybody oh yeah maybe it was me telling him hey bud my daughter is about to turn three years old I would like her to be a wrestling fan but I would like wrestling to be what wrestling supposed to be especially at the top of the card six foot five two hundred and seventy five pounds of perfection from the wrestling gods has been sitting here this whole time and he's he on TV all day every day absolutely not he was actually sent home for about six months recently it's like what how is this guy I'm being sent home so we're saving a business when Randy wins his 15th world title at mania in the future of the business is gonna be led by what the wrestling gods deemed perfection in Randy Orton now who's a blast people got loud yeah really I was just asking I was asking hey why are we doing this when Randy Orton is around that's a good question it's a lot of question anything that doesn't involve Randy in my eyes shite yeah sure agreed for any organs involved good yeah somehow hey Randy Orton's gonna be there somehow tickets are still available for WrestleMania just know that we got some things cooking and you're gonna want to be in Las Vegas it's gonna be spectacular it's gonna be special in future wrestling generation fans will have to look back on the night that was in Las Vegas and say that was the moment that that goat saved the entire business by becoming 15 time world champion shout to Randy Orton thank him I thank you Randy for doing that thank you love you I was asking a wrestling fans this weekend hey did you thank Randy Orton yet for what he's gonna do at WrestleMania for the future of wrestling you know these IWC dipshits they have no idea this is for good of them bingo they have no idea what they've been missing they have no idea what it's supposed to look like now we change that hell yeah that's the internet wrestling community they're not the biggest fans of what happened they're pretty upset about it you know but they are part of the problem they're the ones that said yeah this is what it's supposed to be all this stuff it's like now let let us show you what it's supposed to be hell yeah whatever Randy Orton is at the top of the marquee you know it's a special thing to be seen especially whenever you're in there that arena was electric and then did you see four four and Adam Pearson here try to break it all up back up back up so it was a exciting electrifying time in St. Louis obviously but I think it's a pivotal and very important moment in the history of the business agreed on Friday night in St. Louis yeah without a that's what he said how are we trying to save the business not you know if you're a big-time wrestling fan do you want to be able to continue to watch wrestling you want to be able to continue to love the product if you do then strap in and enjoy the ride you're welcome exactly and if you don't then guess what maybe you're gonna be watching something else on Monday and Friday nights speaking of enjoying the ride Pittsburgh Penguin Sydney Crosby just did something to nobody in the history of hockey is done he has averaged a point per game for 21 straight seasons wow this is fresh off to just miss top five storyline Sydney Crosby living legend to Pittsburgh Penguins might actually do some stuff and it was a sick filthy go hey top Chad height don't keep moving Sydney Crosby point per see her point per game for 21 seasons becomes legit in the Florida Panthers just get absolutely smack as Sydney Crosby is also bodying Matthew Kachuk into the boards it was a special day in the penguins actually hot cannot wait to watch them make the playoffs and shout out to Sydney Crosby a man who's done so much for our hometown doing what he's still doing at this absolutely insane I think Wayne had 19 straight point per game season so he's the closest and then not to be missed Nick correct me if I'm wrong I believe Gino just secured 16 straight point per game seasons you know Malcolm his his cohort on the pen so yeah watch out for the boys in the play yeah we should have won more Stanley cups if I know we're average 16 and 21 points per game seasons but we're back on the back in the saddle gonna do it again and then the last thing that we missed ladies and gentlemen it's Masters week hell yeah come on joining us now as a man who said to wait there through the last two sags there and we apologize for that has to be the worst thing his eyes or ears have ever cast upon ladies and gentlemen the voice of the Masters the voice of the NFL the voice of everything so smooth so buttery so perfect ladies and gentlemen Jim Nance how you doing buddy hello friends that's the greatest introduction I've ever had it's also listen great to be on with all you guys I'm super stoked to be on the show for the first time it's the first time I've ever had to pivot from wrestling to Augusta and fan of both but only you can pull that off at man for all seasons well thank you mr. Nance and I had to slide hockey in there in between you know get the puck and about the action back down on the ground to get to you I was potentially going straight to you but we wanted a puck Randy Orton saving the business Jim that's all you need to know maybe at the Masters remind people of that this weekend if somebody gets a good birdie save boom chips in good birdie save oh good save there not as good as Randy Orton saving the business at WrestleMania something to think about Jim I'll see if I can get Randy Orton on the broadcast at some point over the next four days I love you give it our best shot all right we've I've been talking about too much stuff that isn't worthy of conversation especially when we have Jim Nance on for the first time so let's dive into it when you think about the Masters obviously you've been a part of so many other things and I know you live on a whole design from that like you love everything about golf but you're an NFL you're in every other sport when you think about the Masters your name has become synonymous with it how is that kind of preparing for it knowing that this week is kind of your week in the sports world and Masters is obviously something that takes over everything well you're you're kind of say that as we make the little drive down Magnolia Lane right here I like this b-roll all of it is a dream the truth is when I was a little boy anyone that's still around that remembers all I talked about was one day when I grew up I wanted to work for CBS Sports since I was 11 years old because I wanted to broadcast the Masters tournament and I wanted to broadcast the NFL I love the way they presented both of those properties this will be my 41st time at Augusta 40 year anniversary since Jack Nicholas won in my what was my debut my maiden voyage I was scared out of my wits and I'm thrilled to go back again I mean to get sweeter every year okay so tell me about your golf knowledge you said you wanted to do obviously the Masters you wanted to do the NFL it feels like you never miss a beat in over the last 41 years how much have you seen golf coverage evolve like what we see now is just banger banger banger you're smooth transition into everything you're throwing to the course you have somebody in the booth with you you're going to a break or coming out of a break let's go back to let's keep track let's do it like how is it all just in the moment live for 41 years of experience or how do you kind of prepare for it all it is all extemporaneous it's observe and tell people what you see plus you have catalogued in your head compartmentalize all these background stories on the subjects that you're covering so I really pretty much go without a note in front of me for golf I like to say I call it from right here I call it from the heart now when I'm calling football games I have all kinds of spotting boards you've seen in Pat there you know they're you work on them all week long setting up your depth charts and your stats and all the anecdotal things you might have I have them all color coded but the Masters you're spare to begin with you've got that a custom melody as an undercurrent and you let it breathe and you let your heart speak for you that's the way I approach it okay so let's talk about the birds are chirping obviously but then that's the beginning let's talk about the end do you do you think of bars for when somebody wins something like hey let's say Rory wins do you have a line in in mind or the night before do you think because of the story like or are those lines legendary memorable moments in time in the history of sport are those coming to you live in real time because if you're freestyle in this shit Jim what a legend what a legend absolute legend most of it is coming freelance like you're watching Rory last year and I believe I said something in the moment like the long journey is over McElroy has his masterpiece so it was a little bit of an alliteration I didn't know what I was going to say there the one that I did truly plan out was in 1997 when Tiger won for the first time he had a gigantically going into Sunday and I knew that the next day was going to be this day that truly transcended the sport he was going to be the youngest champion he's going to win by the most shots he's going to set the scoring record you had all the social significance of Tiger winning this tournament and I knew that clip of him holding out on the 72nd green was going to be played back forever he's going to outlive all of us when they come on the air 200 years from now with the master's tournament they have that opening montage that's going to be on there so the narrative kind of like comes with it it just drags into history as part of that video and I thought about it a long time the night before I obsessed over it I felt all these legends of broadcasters from my youth the summeralls the mccays the whittakers the shankles the inbergs I felt their presence truly I felt nervousness I knew they would be watching the next day and I thought it better be something succinct than it fits the moment and I did choreograph that one and it was simple it's a win for the ages and other than that in pretty much you just feel it at the time I want to say this by the way because football you're not scripted you have all these boards but I was trying to look it up Pat helped me out I've been wanting to tell you this for a long time I almost ran into you at the Greenbrier a few years ago you were playing in the pro am if you were in the ballroom I was hosting the pro amp party you were there with John Daley and I was really wanting to go over and say hello and tell you how much I admired the way you're getting into the broadcasting business but we had a Thursday night game on CBS down at Houston and you had what had to be the greatest performance I've ever seen by a special teams player in one game I don't know if you remember it but you had a couple of punts down inside the five of course you were doing the kickoff the kickoff specialist too you had an onside kick you chased down a breakaway return another time I mean you did it all and I don't know if you know this but I was working with Phil Sims at the time just before before my boy Tony and we extolled to high heaven the performance that you had that game do you remember the game I'm talking about yeah I remember the game I've not gone back and listen I to be clear I did not know at this time Houston I did not know at this time that Jim Nance is on the call here I should certainly be pulling those clips and running it on repeat on my Spotify playlist whenever I go but thank you for first of all remembering that and let me relive that yeah I forgot about the tackle in there yeah because I think it was a block wasn't it I think it was a block field goal maybe block field goal then I maybe make tackle on guy that's about to go out I think if I if I'm not mistaken you mauled you mauled a guy who was breaking away yeah here's the deal the next time I mean as I invite myself the next time I come on the show I want the whole clip package put together including the the commentary with all the high praise sound yeah I would like that too by the way yeah I forgot it was Jim Nance and Chris Sims is daddy you know now that I know that it's fantastic you mentioned Tony Romo there he came on the show thank you by the way for all that for your contribution to sport first of all but for being so kind and I hope you do know that because your voice is on it like I do hold it in higher regard so thank you for doing that and being so incredible tell me about Tony Romo a little bit so we obviously have experienced the Tony Romo arc you know he came in everybody loved him he's predicting plays he's got energy he's shooting from the hip here we go we're living then people were like this guy's not even prepared to kind of get mad at him because he's seemingly living in a moment then he's he stays so authentically to himself oh wait a minute we kind of like what's going on here with Tony Romo he's still doing it it feels like it's a cycle I assume that happens for all commentators you would know better than me but then he came on this show in the way he was answering questions you're so clean in the way you pivot to the next subject it's so obvious to me but on that note and then he started answering questions like he was dissecting me as a human while I was interviewing him and I'm like wow this guy's genius I think this guy is very very very bright can you tell me about Tony Romo and maybe where people get it wrong with him whenever they're judging him a bit I first off he is unique and you don't want everyone out there to be the same and he has a different perspective he's fun he is incredibly knowledgeable about what's happening and the X's and O's what's going on in a football play I love this appearance by the way on the show a couple of months ago we've been together for nine years it's been a joy ride I know there's a lot of noise out there and sometimes the noise just feeds more noise but now Tony has a pain in attention to it I don't pay any attention to it there are a lot of people that love him the great majority do yes I love him it's been a thrill working with him I loved working with Phil Simms while I'm at it I want to throw that in there and I've been very fortunate to work with both of him but Tony we're going into season 10 this year and you know we should celebrate the fact that he's different he's got this oversized personality and he acts like a big kid in the booth and by the way off the air he's a big kid and that's what makes him fun it's authentic it's who he is and I like his from shooting from the hip kind of off the cuff reactionary noises and all this stuff I remember you asked him about now it's who he is this is what it sounds like when you're when you're at the dinner table and he's telling a story so I've really enjoyed I've considered myself fortunate to have had him as a partner for a long long time no no I was told you hated him so I'm just gonna remember that that's what I was told that you hated his guts and oh yeah right no no yeah that's what I was told I read it online I read it online and then uh also you know Phil Simms I don't know if you hated him too but I'm happy you put him in there as well but I want to let you know Tony can do that because of you it's like when I was commentating for wrestling Michael Cole was there so Michael Cole goat right so I can do whatever and he can save me you know from wherever I'm at if I'm heading down the wrong road or if we're doing something that's not supposed to be like he could save me because he has all the history you guys are a great team I'm happy you guys have been together for 10 years excited for the next 10 thank you we are too and listen people are entitled to their opinions some people have agendas out there I mean I it's pretty obvious and in some cases one case in particular and somebody wrote there's a dynamic about us that sounds like an uncle and a nephew you know you again you want that that used to be celebrated have a a guy playing it straight with a guy that is kind of offbeat and you don't know where he's going uh take summer all in Madden I mean Pat was the absolute uh definition of a guy that played it right down the middle and John kind of did his thing so um yeah we're listen I can't my next big thing after Augusta and this this to me is like you know as big as it gets we have our what's our fourth Super Bowl together will be the year after next but I can't wait for the schedule release now I get really geeked out it sounds crazy it's one of my if you call it a sporting event is one of my favorite events of the year I'm in a draft I love to see how the league assesses these teams and puts them in marquee positions usually by now if you notice they didn't release anything from the owners meeting last week usually they've already kind of told us who's playing in the opening Thursday game this year's gonna be a Wednesday game who's playing on the opening Sunday night game they released these games for whatever reason it's been held up by a couple of weeks I'm sure it's complicated with the many different broadcasters that the league's doing business with but yeah I can't wait to see where we're headed this year starting week one Jim I'm going to start looking at the schedule release a little bit differently now because the game you just gave me hey this is the league guessing here this is uh because they don't want dry spells remember two years ago we had like a five week dry spell prime prime prime prime was like a dry spell because injuries came in and a couple other teams went crazy it's like the NFL wants nothing like that especially with the new money coming in not the CBS hasn't been an incredible partner but whenever you have YouTube coming in Amazon coming in uh Netflix coming in they got to try to make everybody happy good luck schedule maker man what's his name there's a name for that guy oh well you know it's been a whole a sort it's a whole team of people used to be Howard catch through the years and then it it went on to uh you know no no good guy let's not try to guess all these names uh Mike north is involved in this and uh you know it goes on and on our team that works on it all year long to Dan Weinberg's David Burson our president they're on this all the time it's uh something that they're right in the thick of right now though they're in Indianapolis the CBS team is actually using the Pat McAfee's suite over at the stadium oh nice they've got your suite Gene said Gene said yeah you are uh yeah stare stare tour is in there yeah I I pay for that now I pay for that tell them I I do pay for that they they wrapped it the coats did very kind of I don't think they own the building actually I think the city potentially wrapped it with the coats alongside of it we love that place I'll tell you what the suite we were watching the final four and vastly different than the suite that we that we have for that tell the CBS people we appreciate what they've done with our city let's talk about the masters a little bit here tone is a question for you yeah Jim when you when you look at the odds and you look at the favorites it it's a dream scenario I believe in your eyes probably if it turns out like this obviously it's Scotty Rom Rory and Bryson and you have two live and you have two pga and it's kind of the guys that started that whole situation if it comes down to that is the live and pga still a story in your mind that you would talk about on the broadcast and are those four at the end obviously the dream scenario for you on on sunday well that would be I mean sure it'd be like 86 when jack went ahead all the biggest names were right there at the top um I thought just looking at those odds I thought Rory was a little too low everybody's kind of whatever dismissed him I know he's had a back issue in the month of March but um he gets to go play totally free now for the first time ever he's already won his career grand slam I mean just go out and play he's on house money and then you got Bryson I really like Bryson's chance I was on a press conference call last week and a lot of people took exception to something I made a statement I made about how Bryson had been watched to shot so far this year of course he's been winning on the live tour he's won a couple of starts and I just want to say that was extracted from a quote where I had him as the favorite behind scotty number one and then Bryson and I happen to mention I've had a long relationship with Bryson he's been to my home my son was almost named after him I mean there's a there's a great friendship and respect there and I think he's gonna and I said this too I think he's gonna win Augusta maybe it's this year he's certainly coming in hot I was just trying to make a point and I've got my own stuff going on we're broadcasting um I read the point is I read everything I don't have to sit down and watch the DP world tour to be prepared for those players or the the live golf but I give them their due and I expect that John Rom's coming in playing well too I expect both John Bryson will be right there both great guys and um I would love to have them on the leaderboard wait Jim you're telling me your quotes could take it out of context as well because that seemingly happens though pretty regular bait I didn't know what also happened to you I thought there was an agenda against us as a whole you got you got all these bots and you know live has a pretty strong force of a social media team from what I hear because I'm not on social media but if you say anything that can be loosely interpreted as negative they come after you and that's fine I stood by my comments I wasn't trying to take a shot of Bryson I have like I said I have a great regard for him I consider him a friend and I consider him a favorite this week yeah we all saw him chipping over his house you know and we get it we understand what's going on he's driving a long way he's gonna look really cool he fell into the sand remember in that one tournament that he won a couple weeks ago yeah we've seen it we've seen it we watched it we're excited love Bryson D-Shambo and that par 5 14 13th I forget which one it is 13 yeah 13 there it is back and 15 13 and 15 or par 5 sorry my brain just started saw the scorecard you know I just ran through it sorry have you been to augustus to watch it as a fan no no I've not no I've not there's a chance I've been invited this weekend because everything that happened you know because I came out and said they've said no to me three times and obviously they still have a standard and then I said they basically told us to go to hell you know because they've turned this down three times then that obviously got quoted out of context what you're saying because I was saying they still have a standard what Jason Kelsey going this is a good thing not a bad thing they'll still hold it to high regards so we respect it we understand we have not been approved to go down there we're just telling people that they're still the masters we're still there quote taken out of context Pat says Augusta told him to go to hell bang the boom at a bow and I'm like whoa then I get some green jacket text messages okay I don't know you know hey we just wondered if we could meet have a conversation we didn't really and I'm like I think why don't you come down why don't you come on down you should come on down have a good time it's like okay so you're telling me you might be on property this weekend well see man there's some powerful people texting me saying stuff I don't know if I just want to necessarily go into their backyard but I did feel like they were potentially saying like hey come check it out we'd love to have you here which would be very cool and obviously that's a dream come true for any sports fan to go watch the masters uh so the fact that I'm even invited I'm pumped but yeah there's a chance I might be down there this weekend chance there's a chance I'm gonna be doing what he's I hope our paths will cross if that happens okay but I don't have a phone right so I don't know how that's gonna work I'm going Amish I'm Amish on Sunday like how does this uh we'll figure it out it's an honor we'll figure it out we'll go offline and figure it out well we're gonna go offline down there but I heard there is something some people aren't offline oh yeah I've heard you got to find those people from you know I've been doing my own research from friends that have gone down they're like hey I don't think I could survive just completely off the grid do I have to pack like snacks and stuff yeah it is well I was gonna say something silly like it is a tradition unlike it you're right you're right you're right I'm going I'm going I'm going the fact that I was even invited is absurd it is a sporting event that no one has ever said the words it was great but it didn't live up to expectations it was good but I thought it's gonna be better I've never in 40 years heard anyone ever say anything other than it exceeded it was the best event they've ever been to I would like to say shout out Burke Magnus then because Burke was the liaison for it all making it happen so we'll be doneer yeah all right I'm gonna I'm gonna experience a tradition unlike any other I stepped on the last one we're gonna piece those two together so we have that yeah we're gonna try to get there you get it yeah you know the game deep but has a question for you Jim yeah speaking of it this Sunday uh what has been over the 40 years actually want to ask you the last 20 years because 40 years I don't want to age you too much a long time older than a lot of us in here but last 20 years what's been your most unpredictable most surprising Sunday that you've seen unfold well I think that I think there are two the first would be Tiger in 2019 so when everyone had given up on Tiger ever winning again and I mean it was a magical day now you guys I'm sure you remember it well and even going into Sunday people didn't think he was gonna win but the whole field kind of collapsed down at Amen corner down at the 12th hole Fiennel, Polter, like four guys Francesco Molinari all hit into the water at 12 Tiger as he always did had a better mental game than anyone else and he prevailed I mean that was I was working with Nick Fowler we called it the greatest moment in the history of the sport so that was unpredictable and then I would say last year I would say Rory's win last year was so sweet it you know a lot of people wanted to see him get that six green jacket here I can call it one more time this for the career grand slam and the long journey is over McElroy has his masterpiece oh god yes wow you know he won it and lost it three or four different times in that final round he had a terrible shot at the 13th into the creek it almost looked like a shank but somehow recovered a couple holes later at 15 he had a swooping seven iron around some trees and got the whole round right in and had to win in a playoff against Justin Rose who was pure class I think if Rosie could win this week I want to throw that name out there if Justin Rose could win it would be a lot of people very happy to see that look there he is with the embrace no sour grapes this is the second time he had lost in a playoff he had lost in 2017 to Sergio and now here he was that's all right embodiment of what a what a sportsman is all about in that congrats dude cheers you know because inside deep this has always been my thing with golf I appreciate now that I'm 38 years old and I'm an adult when I was younger maybe not as much that golf just always has the moment afterwards of like congratulations I think tiger got like upset I think the first time like I saw like genuinely wanted felt like he wanted to win more than anybody like in the NFL they talk about like your competitive stamina and your competitive edge and everything that these guys have and girls have it's like Vinitieri once said to me if we're playing chess and I'm about to lose to you I'm flipping the board so we find out we never find out like you know like that type of stuff the golf thing always just being so how you doing and then like walking off the course completely content because we know deep down inside there is a full on a massive frustration disappointment level at all it's why golf so beautiful honestly it's genuinely just a part of the sport it's like this is a part of the culture and it's a beautiful one hockey they still fight yeah hockey they still fight to kind of clear up some differences golf there's always the chivalry it feels like well but then you have in your game you know guys are walking off the field in the NFL now exchanging jerseys it's a love fest okay guys meet midfield jam we got a hard outcome and we're not getting into this we're not getting into this you're gonna get hockey they still do the the lies end of the playoff series though okay that's not like every game well I mean it's into the masters yeah you're right the masters of golf this weekend with this man on the call doing his 41st master's tournament the birds will be chirping a tradition unlike any other a masterpiece will be the soundtrack to this year's masters and this man will be leading the symphony you're the man we appreciate the hell out of you goat hey it was a thrill being on the show let's do it again we've got to bring back the clips of McAfee at Houston October 2015 on a Thursday night game we don't have time we don't have time we don't have time we don't have time we haven't had out here to me ladies and gentlemen Jim yeah yeah we're back on the other side with Shaq what be your friend tell friends I'm nice my change of life if you want to save a few quid 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living we can't believe that you watch but we're certainly grateful that you do we're going to be joined here in the Thunderdom by uh Shaq diesel I do believe in just a matter of moments obviously everybody in town for the final four for tonight's national championship as uconn will take on michigan michigan favored by six and a half points stats in the history of said if a team is favored by six and a half or more they're going to win the game will they cover we shall see uconn dan hurley 18 and one against the spread over his last 19 tournament games a record that is sports gambler saying thank you for the crown mr dan hurley draft kings are saying oh this guy's problem what's going on with this guy what his problem is he's got a bunch of dogs always michigan they have a bunch of killers this team has dominated and put their foot on next throughout the entirety of the tournament who wins we shall find out tonight 850 yeah you're reading oh yeah and that and it ain't tipping 850 we're looking at 906 910 you got a pregame performer I would assume probably half a who is it recipe's to hagritt not going to be hagritt sure I wish who talks at table at boss of corner at tyson they already used chain smokers at the final four I think they might run them back they should it should the fastball yeah I got it what's that song I forget roses getting on it oh we were staying in the diesel yeah there you go oh we might have a little inside scoop maybe I do know shack will be making a massive announcement tonight on tnt we're told from his people hey shack will like to potentially talk about talking about something tonight okay I can't wait for that nine year NFL vet dairy state butlers here good cd but your uconn team it's a celebration of the huskies obviously around indianapolis but this michigan team has been taking no prisoners yeah they've been beating everybody's ass how do you feel about dan hurley taking on a matchup and how do you feel about the head to head in the press conference it's kind of becoming a thing now I know I kind of feel like dusty man was kind of bowing down almost kissing a ring right there so I feel great about that I do love dusty man he's an absolute great coach but yeah this this meme has obviously been going around with some great quote tweets on the internet but I would much rather have dan hurley on my sideline than the opposing sideline so I look I am jubilant now I wish the win would have got it done so we had to back the back you know what the well gm orm is potting it's down like a baby it didn't get done but the men get it done tonight gms potting out there yeah brutal like and lee and he's lying too what do you mean he's lying on don staley's name he said that you know she never walked over pregame that's what he was all you know pissed off about it she didn't walk over pregame and shake my hand that is basically a common courtesy we do before every single game division one basketball coach division two three doesn't matter you do that and then there's video of her and her entire staff shaking all of the hands of uconn staff pregame so I don't want to bring it up was that sherman uh in baker remember the dapple up yeah at the coin toss yep there was like a full like a normally captains like dappy I forget who said what about who but they had an entire interaction and then the video was run back and it was clear yeah very yeah yeah we did call it dapple game we tried to get to I think we had shirm on and I think we also had baker on I think if I'm not a hundred percent missed I don't know if baker came on but I think we got quote from bakers team and that entire thing because there was a statement of disrespect happening to somebody like didn't even dapp me up and then the clip was like certainly clearly tried to but so many things are happening in there so many things happen in a game maybe get lost in a moment and just feel disrespected by somebody because something happened Gino legend in the game he knows that whenever he starts potting after a game that's going to be the conversation some people say did on purpose some people say did on purpose I didn't talk about the ass beating that happened probably South Carolina class I guess it was a pretty big beating that the South Carolina team put on to Gino Ariama's Nagelang got their asses beat so ipso facto Lauren Betts and that UCLA team potentially to Gino's team he might have been botting after that one too this UCLA team is unbelievable they are they are Lauren Betts six foot seven out of Spain yeah moved to America in third grade she's unbelievable it's hard not to watch her highlights and go she feels like she's burning that one that that lady right there feels like she's better than everybody she's coming to the fever don't worry about I mean that's that's big 10 basketball baby you know and I think that's why you maybe got to like Michigan a little tonight because that's just big 10 basketball you know and I got I don't make the rules that's just the way it is that's big 10 basketball oh my god and there's a hand bow stat to back you up big 10 in title game last eight instances yeah wait they've lost a lot they've lost a lot oh wait so that's not that's not the same thing they've they've lost a lot but uh yeah you know UTLA is part of the big 10 now Michigan looks great I think one thing that people aren't accounting for with Gino sure you got you know diehard fans of Yukon who were pissed at him because he act like a jackass after the game he's potting like a baby all that kind of stuff you got South Carolina fans that hate him you also got everyone in New England hating him because they were kind of you know relying on going out and buying new furniture there was that promo hey if both the men and the women's team take home the title this year your furniture is free so you got all these people going out buying nice new sectionals you know new bed new bedroom set well guess what that you got got to pay that in full now that's a lot you know you try to sell it to like rent a center or something I don't know how you get rid of shit that you've already uh four paid before got for free and then it ends up not being for free because I saw some people got some nice sectional oh yeah I'm talking like six wide sectional with the the uh chase yeah cooler the shade at the end of the usb plug in oh yeah with the the recline and the yeah on that the people are like give me two of those yeah tweet give me Gino's gonna we got this I get one from Dan Hurley I get one from Gino you know yeah give me the uh what's that soft beanbag thing on love sack oh the love I want the love sack big one I want to be able to come jump into that thing really with and Gino I think that's maybe why he was potting so hard he might have got a multi-fucking sectional out there we really we'll never know no no we won't and that's Gino yeah joining us now is a man it probably has the answer I can't believe this guy's live in the Thunderdom I'll tell you what when he walks in you go oh that's him literally the largest athlete of all time the most dominant basketball player in the history of hoops a four-time champion a 15-time all-star a business legend tv icon yeah not a bad spot huh ladies and gentlemen Shaquille are you doing brother not a bad little spot huh yeah yeah I like you just grabbed a bunch of shit from the front row yeah I like that I appreciate that mind me legend yeah what's up man he's got the shacklicious gum he's in tow too I love that the bell buckle thank you yeah what's this one I've seen that uh 2019 hashtag sports awards that's a good one here we go seven years late congratulations thank you so much the lacrosse donation no lacrosse players friends my favorite one right here a business a guy was trying to start for college football not bad to put on my cowboy hat that I do not know rode the J and sandy and you're breaking the rules why am I a fan of your show I don't know because you wear tank tops yeah yeah you're right you're right yeah yeah yeah I understand I understand yeah I get a check I mean I truly do I mean I'm never I've never done that before maybe you know that one's nice yeah oh looking nice huh yeah yeah a little science here a little little science looking like Dolph Lundgren that'll compliment is it is Dolph one of the porn stars no Ivan Drago Rocky for happy Drago Rocky for so this is the Thunder down here we go yeah welcome to the Thunder down share thank you this is awesome thank you so much for coming thanks for having me really appreciate that um we obviously respect the shit out of how you play hoops I mean you're unstoppable you're unguardable you're the most all-time basketball player of all time but the way you have reshaped what an athlete can be both business wise entertainment wise music wise you name it massive respect we appreciate the hell out of you thank you thank you for bringing the award from 2019 that we won and thank you for showing up let's chitchat a little bit how do you feel about tonight's matchup how do you feel about Yukon how do you feel about Michigan they've been kicking everybody's ass I think that's a trait that is good when you can go foot on neck like Michigan's been able to do what are your thoughts I thought Michigan was gonna have problems with Arizona but they manhandled Arizona a very physical inside shoot the ball very well things gonna be a tough matchup I think uh I have a question yeah did coach Harilee headbutt that reference yeah yeah yeah it looked like it all right so what do you think happened if the ref would have called the tick oh you think they make the shots or no you think they make the free throws I mean that's the question because in that in your guys this game right they just get the select who's shooting at right right so that's the best free throw shooter oh in the final four what oh point three seconds it's over oh can't make that call no but but one thing I know about coach Harilee he's gonna have his guys ready to compete and I think I think it's gonna be a close game I don't think Michigan's gonna uh a manhandle you kind of like they did Arizona how do you feel about the stadium Lucas Osteen with boys and I were there uh we're in a suite of pretty far away but obviously the stadium conversation immediately comes with the shooting sights and all that shit with the eyes Michigan seemingly didn't care at all they shot at the big house did you hear about this they went to the big house and shot at their football stadium in Michigan the week beforehand do you think that's a real conversation or no my favorite movie is Hoosiers hell yeah when Gene Hackman said hey the length is the same the height of the rim is same everything's the same I I never I never worried about that I think one time we played a game in the Superdome it was nice but it didn't you know mess up my focus or anything okay I uh and we're gonna break that rim in place yeah how many do you have I don't know 10 11 12 when was the first one and uh on an army base in 1988 how old were you about 16 70 that was whenever you were playing hoops over in Germany or no this uh this one happened in San Antonio Texas 4th time used to I watched your documentary was so cool which is you trying to find people to play hoops against and then all of a sudden everybody on a uh base is like hey uh this one might be the fucking one here on I couldn't even imagine those people seeing you play hoops just as a teenager just being like is this the greatest of all time yeah might actually be go ahead debug yeah I mean you bring me down memory lane right now talking about Hoosiers first of all first of all talk talk to me in the black voice don't talk to me homeboy going back blue chip yeah blue chips what I got older brother six years older than me he had me watch the blue chips man my favorite basketball movie of all time what's some of the uh things I guess behind the scenes that we didn't see some great stories from that movie so my favorite story about blue chip because I'm I'm the guy I don't pay attention to competition I had no idea who painted hard away with us never heard of him seriously true true story so it was in my contract that they built us something like this so I could work out because you know Jack's doing too much he's moving the wrapping so we put in my contract before I started shooting let me work out from 10 to 12 10 to 1 so they kept putting this guy on my team six nights little lanky kid and he was a great passer so finally I you know go to the guy who's setting up the games I was like hey man who's this actor because I think he's really good yo man you don't know who that is that's penny hardaway I said who Memphis so so then I called my agent I said hey this penny hardaway they said yeah he's good but he'll probably have the third pick but I can remember in the back of my head my good friend Dennis Scott said you got to go to stage you got to take over you got to tell people what you want or you're going to leave so I tried it I said listen I've been playing with this kid penny hardaway you heard him say yeah we heard him we'll never get him I said well you need to get him when the first pick comes I know you think about C-Web and I love C-Web no disrespect to C-Web but we don't need two bigs on this team I need somebody that can get me the ball and I need somebody that can play I've been playing with this kid all summer and I was thinking magic and Korean I was thinking the new magic Korean because you know a lot of these young people don't realize that penny hardaway was Kobe before Kobe a lot of kids don't you know realize that so I went upstairs I told them that I waited they tried to see wet so now I'm pissed I'm breaking windows in my house breaking trophies and then I watched and then they said the Golden State Warriors have traded penny hardaway to Orlando and I knew we had something special so that was my favorite story from Blue Chip. Hell yes that is a great story from Blue Chips it sounds like. I had no idea who he was for real. Okay so you said it was Kobe before Kobe obviously you played with Kobe played with LeBron there's a lot to be made about all of it you played obviously with AI you and Michael Jordan one-on-one at the All-Star game is obviously a clip that runs forever when people are having a conversation about best player of all time I think I've asked you this before is it unfair because how much the game has changed like if we're playing different sports at this point is that an accurate thing? Yes it's unfair because you know the errors were different you know try to put put me up against a will his error versus my error me personally I think I would have completely dominated him so I would like to I like to break it down by errors but you know when you're talking about that goat conversation I would like to hear all the names and I'm about to add one more name because he's unbelievable I'd rather than just going Mike and LeBron which is fine is your choice got to put Kobe in there put him in the conversation and now I'm standing here on the Pat McAfee show got to put Steph Curry in there. Hell yeah he's back last night. The only thing Steph Curry has not done those other guys have done is the finishing dunk think about what I'm saying like all the other guys they have they have a finishing dunk play but Steph Curry behind that line is you know the impact is similar to a finishing dunk but you definitely got to put him as one of the greatest players of all time. So that's your Mount Rushmore right there. Yeah sounds like yeah. Kobe, Mike, LeBron, Steph. Yep when you got to add Steph. And how pissed off do you get whenever you're not a part of that conversation because can anybody stop you? Yeah I don't because you know when I was coming in like watching all these other players and you know like for example Christian Layton was a better player than me in college I didn't want to go for the best player title I wanted people to fear me so I wanted to go for the most dominant like my first play every time I get the ball elbows up I'm trying to knock the people down. No seriously so you know that that's just how I was I wanted to be. Who was your biggest problem? Little guys because they can get on there and you know the referees let them get away with stuff but nobody really played me one-on-one. You're the best Jack. I'm just trying to be the most dominant I want these motherfuckers to know when I walk on the floor that it's about to be a long night it's about to be a long night. You are the most dominant you got your own fucking thunder down. I like that and we got you in here and on that note hey these are good. Top nine. I mean I've never really you can see I speak like I guess a white person but my skin is more so of like a red I would never put these colors on my body ever. No you look good dude. Thank you thank you I appreciate that but on that note the brand that I put on here really good I'm not a sugar candy guy either so what you've been able to do here is phenomenal but it's not just shacklicious XL gummies hosting a big event with Shaq and Lefko and many others I think in like an hour and a half or something like that downtown. How'd you get in this game and how's the company doing? I think we talked to you the first day it launched. I assume you're doing very well. We're doing excellent. The second slam is the official official gummy of the Final Four. That's a huge check that you had to write so that means company's doing very good. Yeah we're doing very well and you know what uh listen oh my favorite thing that's happening today Onyx is coming out to perform slam. Okay so let's talk about what's going on here because tonight the tip-off's like eight fifty or something. Eight fifty. It's late. Yeah exactly that's what we said too so it has to be a bunch of shit all day I guess going on. Well I'm doing your show. I'm doing a podcast and I'm gonna go eat at the soul food spot and I'm gonna go get ready for the game. Country kitchen. I bet you're gonna hit a three-pointer before you. Whoa well you're doing that right now. No fucking chance. Stop it. I can beat you in golf. You him? I don't know. I don't know. Okay okay and then what about him? What do you got to write? Football we can throw football into that net over there. All right deal. Okay are we doing the Shaq olympics right now? Which one would you like to start with? Would you like to start with golf? Whatever you want to do. Yeah let's start with golf. Okay Ty let's get the hang of it. Come on Ty. Come on now. Because I'm tired of you looking at me. The Shaq Thunderdom olympics here is about to take place. We have a left handed. Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Thunderdom Shaq olympics now. Shaq is the founder of the Shaqalicious gummies. I have a confession we both have the same Sasquatch stature. Out front yeah as soon as I saw it was available I had to get it. I like it. Is it bigger than you or smaller than you? Same size. What is your exact dims at this exact moment? Demographics. Yeah okay your demographic and your dims dimensions. Demos as well. Who do you hit the biggest home run with on a regular basis and what are your dims? Seven foot one three seventy one. Jesus. Yeah. You doing science? No science. I'm on a lot of science. You should think about it you know especially Shaq we got a putter actually for you here. Oh boy. This is one of those big ones okay perfect for you. Looks normal. All right Shaq here's what we'll do okay we'll do five putts each of you and we'll go from here down to that one. Actually actually we'll go down here and we'll go this way so we can see you from the front. Actually which one is better Foxy? This works right here. Okay this works right here. You'll be putting this way from this area over here you'll make five you'll take five putts on. You can do them back to back to back so you can get a groove. You play golf much Shaq? Not at all. Yeah not a not a single second of golf for Shaq. I don't think they make clubs for a man who's seven one. A little soft there I feel like you have good touch though Shaq. Okay Shaq here's the deal you have three putts left that one's definitely not going in. Aim a little left. If you make more putts than Ty Schmidt we will double your putts first of all. We'll donate might it bounce in? Oh okay you got one more or two more putts here Shaq. If you beat Ty we'll double the amount of mix that you have versus Ty. Everyone's going right Shaq. Fix the putt. Aim left. Aim left Shaq. Geez. Ladies and gentlemen Shaquille O'Neal if he makes this we'll count it as two same miss every time. I'll tell you I did not expect that from professional athletes. And you picked up a ball in the putter. You picked up a ball in the putter. Okay Ty all you got to do is make one putt here and you beat Shaquille O'Neal in golf. The Shaq Olympics going not great here. Yeah you're trying to block them a little bit. Shaq what size shoe again do you have here? Okay you're back with Reebok right? Hey back up. Yes I am back with Reebok. So if he makes one putt he makes one putt you will be completely duffeted in the Thunderdome Shaq Olympics. You're right. I don't like that. I want you to come here and win Shaq. I want you to feel comfortable here. I'm gonna beat him though. I'm not gonna worry about it. D-butt? Did he use proper uh never mind. Oh no touch Shaq. I only thought on Ty Schmidt's golfing ability. He's uh he hits it. He hits the balls a little hard. Although stiff on the balls. Yes very stiff on the balls. Favorite movie you've ever been in? Any Adam Sandler movie. He's the greatest isn't he? Sandman's the goat. Yeah. Shaq we don't understand that. Okay we're 0 for 2 here maybe 0 for 3 not a hundred percent sure. Maybe no made putts then everybody's a big time loser. Shaq favorite NBA team this year? San Antonio Spurus. Is that because Wamby do you have respect for him? Ty 0 for 4. Super respect. He's playing great. Okay defense aside he's a weapon should he be the MVP? I don't know what the criteria for the MVP is anymore. You hate the MVP is this like first ballot hall of famer when Bill Belichick doesn't get in? What do you mean for criteria of MVP? The criteria is all over the place. I thought it was the baddest player in the league now. It's the stats and team stats and this and that. This is his last putt. So are you? No I think it was 4. If he makes this putt we're gonna donate. That's a ton of digs. He's from Pittsburgh actually. He watched Kevin Costner as a cowboy and turned into what? Okay got it. Yeah mad respect. I'm probably gonna turn into Shaq after today. Shaq a lot of movie appearances a lot of businesses. 390 some businesses you're involved with. Is that an accurate number? You guys suck at golf. This is disgusting. Okay 0-0. You are still undefeated. You are still undefeated. Shaquille O'Neal this is an NBA 3 here now as I disappear behind you as if it is a solar eclipse. How many would you like to shoot? Just just the first one to make a three five attempts. Well that doesn't count. That's two different sets of rules. If it's gonna be the first one to make a three five attempts. Max. The first one to make a three but we get five total attempts. So if we don't do it in five then it's a tie. It's fair. You're definitely gonna make it in five. Shaq I've seen you on the internet. People mock your shot. Yeah right. Uh-oh okay. All right. That range finder. Okay. Okay. Shaquille O'Neal getting a feel for it. That'll be the first shot. Darius J. Butler now nine year NFL vet will be shooting from a very comfortable gym. He shoots in here every day. So all right. Oh okay and it's over and it's over. Okay now Darius J. I don't like it. I don't like that it happened but I do appreciate how it went. He shouldn't have called a black guy out for a three five. That was very interesting. Yeah I thought that was very interesting. I just for sure thought you were gonna call it the long hair guy. Okay now we're doing football throw into the net over here above the trash can you get hit top left or top right. For glory. This is Connor. From over here. I think you gotta throw here. More straight on Shaq. Okay so Darius J. Butler on this national championship Monday knocks down the first NBA three. Shaq have you thrown a football before. All state. Okay con man now can we get those balls. What's that. No it did not go it went under the net Shaq. We're not going to be changing the rules. San Antonio Spurs how about in the east Boston Celtic. I'm gonna go with the New York Knicks. Oh really. Ruth. How come. Because I'm about to get on a cat's ass and he about to start playing at another level. Big cat. I watched cat here in Indiana whenever we had to series with them last year. Him running back and forth. I don't know how you big guys do it. Lumbering. How do you feel about the amount of games and all that shit. It feels like there's real conversations about it especially with the 65 thing with the awards. How do you feel about the state of NBA when it comes to that. Don't change it. If we did it you can do it. You're making way more money so you need to be doing more. I love how old. You old head you are. Okay con man you got two balls here. Connor he just lost a D button here. Oh no. Okay a little high a little outside. Could be a tie and you lose again. Yeah. Con how's that feel. It's okay. Shaquille O'Neal suck it. That's not right. That's not right. That is not how that should have went. Now Shaq. The boys are in here every day. You know we kind of know the altitude around here. We know the games. We know the holes. We know the hoop. We know the secret. Yeah. Pat told me to let you guys win. That would never happen. This is a meritocracy so we know that's a lie. Yeah Shaq thank you for being such a hero there for the boys. Always always. Shaq we have this graphic we made mostly because we just want to kind of put you over a bit for what you've done. The big empire. You've called yourself that before I assume. Yes I have. Okay as you should. Are you currently the president of Reebok basketball again. Yes I am. Okay are we getting back in a big way. When do we get shoe deals. Whenever you want. Okay we would love to negotiate a nice Reebok design Reebok back in a huge way. Congrats. I tell you what I could make it happen right now. I got my girl Amanda she can come in here and get it done. Yeah. Derek take of junior. They just signed in from Ardenstine. He's a weapon you brought me back to I saw in the photo. I like what you're doing there. The angel resues. No bullshit clean. And also now she's a member of Atlanta probably can do a little bit more numbers because they're a better team. Okay so we're getting a Reebok deal today. Love that is so cool. And look at us. Congratulations. Hey thank you. Amanda come on out here. No not right now. There's gonna be some stuff to figure out. There's some comps out there but 370 businesses. You're in founded Schkelo-Neal XLG. Obviously we see that in JC Penney. I wore some of your clothes on TV this year. I appreciate you doing that because I can look thinner. Platinum hip hop album People Forget. People Forget. You're getting back into music as a DJ but also saw you spitting like two weeks ago. What is it you just always around music. I mean you know I just like having fun you know as a kid. Certain days I wanted to be L.O.Q.J. Other days I wanted to be Dr. J. So it's not about you know doing certain things just about you know fulfilling my like if I can just get out there with like my favorite artists and you know just spend time with them in the studio that's actually more important than you know sell the albums to me. How about whenever you're DJing in the entire place you don't you look like you're having the time of your life you're wearing some pajama pants ass shit and then you got hilarious shoes on and then there's thousands of people in front of you and your big ass is the largest DJ of all time but it feels like you're very invested in that. I remember a time on social was like you practicing at your house like really trying to buy into it still doing DJ diesel. Yeah I just had to show at the spear but you know sphere spear and are you guys athletes because I don't want to disrespect you. I know. Yeah JV three years so us three know how it feels to come in an arena at sixteen seventeen thousand it gives you a certain adrenaline rush that you don't get in real life so when I stopped playing I didn't have that so when I went to a DJ event one time I think Tiesto was DJ it was like a half a million people out there when I was on stage with him and I just felt that you know I felt that you know finals game seven rush. Oh I didn't have and then you get your jab walkie shit out going. There's no reason that a human body can do all of that shit and then as we wrap up the big empire the shacklicious slams and the shacklicious XL gummy of the NT double A Final Four. It's good to as somebody that doesn't eat I'm a chocolate guy I eat chocolate okay I like chocolate the sugar candy is not really my nerves had to run with me sure sure nerds had to run with me you got a nerds thing that's unbelievable maybe the twizzler rope thing the port feels yeah the fruit by the foot yep maybe had a run in my life I'm 38 years old though these are all like two month runs always back to chocolate these are really good man I don't know I'd like to thank you but congratulations thank you appreciate you thanks for having me and you too I'll let you win now that's not true all right well you want to go back you wouldn't do that absolutely I beat your ass once I can do it again how about you do a three point shooting contest with him one shot each all right deal 100,000 dollar donation 100,000 dollar donation 50 all right deal that's good deal fine okay it's a good idea we'll match a match in either right we're doing 100 okay so 50 each Shaq you're the man go come in Shaq we're happier on ESPN television by the way all state yeah I got we're gonna see you over there careful I'm just showing you I'm just messing around all right one three for each of you Shaq after this you got to go rock a crowd like you normally do we appreciate you oh no oh no he threw that away from you on purpose that was gamesmanship Shaq Shaquille O'Neal oh no con man con man oh no first to make five shots 50,000 dollar donation oh no oh no what are what if neither of them make it hey Shaq can end this day just telling you to oh so close that's over three over two for Connor that's a 50,000 dollar donation from Shaquille O'Neal potentially he's wearing the Tyrese Halliburton shoes oh no Shaq oh no Shaq Shaq's got Tom's on you got the Hallies on obviously that's the difference Shaq we appreciate you man oh yeah we'll see you tonight thank you Shaq appreciate Shaq that's all Shaq good luck tonight all right Shaq yep you know what to do with it in the middle one yeah hey that's and maybe you make that on the way out right there yeah I'll donate to a charity if you're choosing all right all right that's Thunderdome hoops that's that's that's 13 yeah that had a good run added that thing had a good run we didn't get on camera asshole we could have gotten it on camera he's broke our hoop there Foxy keep turning the job around and zoom in on that right down there lower right you see that hoop down there in the middle in the in the hallway yeah just rip that off obviously right above there go and zoom out now Foxy you can show where it was boom right on that he just grabbed it ripped it spiked it kept it moving he's dominant you can feel he's when he shows up there is a ever present and uh omnipresent and congratulations yeah huge for 2019 these are in a front office up there uh uh you know just things in the past I appreciate him just snagging them up so I'm gonna take him out there yeah give it up I'm gonna give it up here these are really good I appreciate you joining us now ladies and gentlemen is another basketball goat college hoops goat friend of the program a man who's obviously won multiple national championships at Lucas oil stadium where they will be deciding who is the next world champion of college hoops tonight as uconn takes on michigan who else would have a better thought on how it should go than coach k don't you see this you look you look so small next to what do you mean coach k what do you I thought you were a bigger guy coach k I'm six one and a half for cowboy boots on six three I love what the southerns have done with the cowboy boots it's a good idea but they could dress it up you could dress it down he's seven one coach okay I'm sure you've been next to shack has a gold medal winner alongside of him yours your sport is crazy how tall people can be that's almost like a decider on whether or not you can make it right in the in that kind of a thing you got a scout whenever you're trying to recruit for duke yeah there's a seven three guy playing tonight and who's pretty good yeah pretty good I'd say let's talk about these teams tonight michigan has just beat everybody's ass I should have done more research I should know have any of your Duke teams just dominating through the two throughout the entire tournament you almost were worried about running into something at the title game or how do you feel about this michigan run that they've had through march as we enter april yeah I think it's as dominant as anybody's ever had we've never had where you're winning every game by high double digits and uh they looked like a machine on on saturday how fast they get it down the court and uh you know in plain Arizona Arizona was a team that did everything in the paint and all of a sudden you have a seven three guy there and two six nine guys uh for michigan they are a big big basketball team and uh you know Connecticut you know I think is as tough as anybody and I think if they can control tempo not let it be an up and down game because uh michigan's bench is a little bit it's a little bit better and uh but tempo I think is a is a big factor in this game okay riddle me this coach k uh dan hurley 18 and one against the spread of his last 19 tournament games they were underdogs against Illinois they had beat Illinois by 13 points I always want to know that uh is because Dan Hurley said that in in the post game is there just some coaches in some teams that are always going to battle I guess and is this you con team and a Dan Hurley led team kind of a the epitome of what that looks like basically well there's you know the word grit uh and you guys say dogs you know like they got them you know and they're going to fight you for 40 minutes and uh you know the fact that they show up and do that every every day every game is a testimony to how he he practices with them I you know his practices are really difficult and so in a lot of respects the games are easier and uh and he's a cheerleader for his team during the game but in practice he's not a cheerleader he's a task master and uh it's paid off he's very much like his father his father's one of the great coaches at any level and uh you know the it's the hurley mystique and uh god bless him you know Danny and I are very good friends and uh I'm very proud of the guy he's become and the great coach that he's become yeah he is certainly a trigger for headlines the way he acts you know the way he operates on the floor because of I think he I think he he takes on a character you know you like he's a walk he's not that way all and yeah he's got all that what you just did yes exactly he's the best no he he does it and well that's part of being really good you know uh you know being in character you know he's there for the entire game you know he's never sitting down he's orchestrating what's going on on the court the emotion of an arena and he's got his his fingers on a whole bunch of things during the game not just the X's and O's it's a special show I'm excited for tonight especially at Lucas Oil Stadium a lot of people 50 000 plus I guess watching the final four who knows what tonight looks like I was looking for some you know closer tickets those are all very expensive now C-Key can give you 30 bucks off you're not going to realize it I don't think with where the tickets are but that's how special it is speaking of being special ladies and gentlemen welcome back live from in Attic and Ohio College Football National Champion Super Bowl Champion Ryder Cup winner AJ Hawke Hawke has a question about time you showed up yeah I appreciate it I was I was enjoying uh Shaq actually letting all the boys win and all the Shaq Olympics that they had going on so that was fun but but coach as far as tonight I guess what do you say to your team I know we've talked about it before like there's no big rah-rah speeches you don't have to motivate guys when you're on the biggest stage but what do you say to them pregame and what are you looking for early from both teams well it's one of those sets of three words that we talked about a couple weeks ago you know first of all I think yeah have fun you know don't be tight you know fun uh is a big thing fight is another and then forever so there are three f's and uh forever if you do those first two things uh you're going to be remembered forever you're going to be a national champion let's go and kick ass and um you know something like that something short and sweet and uh but also to sense the mood of the team if if if they're ready something like that is good is really good short and sweet and then get them all together and let's go did you guys back in the day you should smack guys in the face you know way back in the day but you know they talk about nuns with rulers right back in the day in school you guys just we have a good you know hug them a little bit or hug them shake them but never never slap by the way you know shack gave you all that stuff you know I don't have that many gifts I know I know I feel but I'm gonna send you oh yeah I'm in this relationship has become I don't know if you saw AJ I'm getting wood okay I'm getting wood from what hey are you an extra or double X uh I'm a large thanks coach did you not see are you okay this is you you haven't seen it you know you haven't seen the science transit you got the science for the hair you know I'm taking the science to get but on that note these things shrink a little bit so I'm gonna I got a recent maybe some of those USA basketball jackets I'll send you a double X for AJ okay that's smart that's where AJ's at fresh off a a vacation of eating and working out that's all he's been doing uh for the last week USA basketball shirts with yeah I love a couple of those so cool we're repping us today yeah I don't have those yeah make a call I'm a retired us basketball you did a lot of great things for Team USA and we're certainly thankful for that but USA does win today because we have the national championship tonight go ahead debug yeah it's a big time players dealing with some injuries coming into this game as a coach do you have kind of like uh I guess an initial game plan and then a backup game plan if uh one of the big time players for either side goes down yeah well you know Michigan has shown that uh without their big guy he only played 14 minutes uh Lendeborg uh and they didn't miss a beat uh I'm hoping that solo place tonight uh I don't know what the word out today is because boy he was balling on on Saturday I thought he was he gives them you know when you look at solo ball you'd say is he an NFL quarterback or when he's he is tight and good and you know what a good-looking guy he is what a good-looking athlete and he he plays with a verve you know I I thought he was as important as anybody for Connecticut and uh you're facing that guy yeah I he you know if he doesn't play they're in a lot of trouble I think what's a verb what's a verb yeah verb like what the hell you know what a goddamn verb no I don't I was trying to use context clues but I could mean so many different things how you know moxie you don't you don't know okay oh a verb I like I'm gonna drop that one into my world five verb refers to great energy vitality enthusiasm or artistic spirit often described as a lively sparkle in performance or creative work it embodies vigor dash and panache frequently used to describe lively writing music or personality uh yeah welcome to my rolodex verb that's incredible news thank you for that coach he is that no I've used that that doesn't make me old school does it no it makes you innovative because I never I didn't know that word existed thank you yeah you you all olders I wasn't going to say old's that would have been very rude of me you olders have been around a lot longer you've seen generations of words come and go you know so any of these ones that you have from the some of them probably not not that you would say ever but you know that verb though is a good one let's go ahead and bring those let's bring those all the way back so I'm very grateful for that and I did not know what verb means but that is a good way to describe old buddy he is an absolute sensation now let's talk about this Michigan team and how great they were in the final four shoot and go ahead tone yeah coach last time you're on we kind of talked about the the shooting sites the sight lines for in these big stadiums and you said it's not too bad in Lucas oil uh dusty may decided to have his team go out on to the field of the big house and shoot on a portable hoop there have you ever done anything like this you think that's a good idea and now that both now that all the teams have played or both teams have played a game in Lucas oil do you think that's less of a factor yeah it is less of a factor no I never did anything when I grew up in city Chicago you played outside so you know it's a windy city you'd have to adjust for that I don't know how dusty did that I don't know if you expect some you know wind currents in the in Lucas oil but uh yeah I think more than practice it was like to loosen his team up you know that's got to be a lot of fun so again making sure you're loose I don't I don't think that did much for their their shooting percentage oh my god I love that you heard this you're like that's cute is there wind out there or is this like a stadium do they have a dome on that place I appreciate you saying good idea dusty I like what we're doing for the boys but it was being reported as if it fixed their sight lines yeah they were they were actually shooting that way and you read that and you puked it sounds like you said yeah right this is nowhere near the same I don't I don't know uh we can be too I don't know about fixing sight lines go ahead AJ go ahead AJ we're going to we're going too far here you know trying to get to be the best let's get back to the basketball you got it go ahead AJ would that would that be instead coach we saw uh coach Hurley with the the infamous kind of I don't know if you call it a headbutt you know they're just kind of putting his head together with the referee what's your thoughts on that have you ever become physical with the referee in your long time as a coach AJ welcome back AJ no I wanted to oh you know never did you actually you want to you want to give yeah you get angry with them he wasn't angry there and I think I'm not sure he actually headbutted and I think from that point of view it looks that but if it's a side I'm not sure that he actually did that I thought Roger Ayers uh you know was really good about that it's it's a moment the game it is over they just have a fraction of a second actually it's pretty funny you know I mean Danny looked like he was coming from a batch work party yeah he certainly had jackets halfway off obviously just had time of his life what a shot a moment that'll live on forever for March Madness from the freshman from Indiana allegedly reports were they couldn't hear the ref so he was trying he was trying to go in he was in his zone of we just won couldn't hear the ref so he's just trying to get done in there and then a rough he was he was euphoric man he was that's another word for you you know well I mean I know true euphoria that's what we know I felt that AJ you've seen it you've seen it happen a couple of times we've witnessed that a few times yes we have and people have told us that this is what true euphoria feels like and we weren't feeling it with them but it was certainly uh mentally we could know he was given it was a gift you know like there's no way at that point that you expect that you're going to win you know with uh having the ball and in bounty you hope and so when that happens you're going to go crazy on that like boom and then caravan makes one of the great passes of all time yeah you love the caravan pass you said you thought he was a coach on the floor to give it back to the freshman such a huge deal we talked to moans obviously right before that and he said well there's four seconds when I pass it so I guess I only got two like what yeah I guess I'm putting this thing in he seemingly had no idea how big the moment was got a bunch of studs on that particular team cannot wait for tonight who's going to be remembered in etched in history forever now let's move to some other college hoops conversations even in Carolina go ahead Ty yeah coach last time you're on we we asked about the UNC job opening and I think it was maybe last night a lot of reports have come out that have said like hey they're they're really kind of centered in on Billy Donovan and that seemed they're kind of waiting for him to say no I guess I believe he was on your staff for a period of time with Team USA if that is the case what do you think how well do you think he would do at UNC and what I mean I know he was very successful in college for a long time but how difficult do you think that transition from the NBA back to college would be considering how much the game has changed since he was last coach yeah he wasn't on on my staff but he he's a great friend you know like he's one of really great guys and great coaches and he's just uh inducted into the Naismith Hall of Fame a year ago uh you know he uh he was a great player he you talk about bopping the wood he yeah he he did that as a player yeah he did yeah he did I think I think it's much more difficult to go from pro to college than college to pro as a coach when you go from college to pro you have a an organization around you that understands the environment and has been in it for years uh when you go to college it's it's you know there's so many nitpicky things and uh also you're you're dealing with although now it's older but you're dealing with uh guys who necessarily haven't proven themselves yet or in the pros uh you're going to be like me coaching the u.s team yeah in some respects that was easier for me because yeah they were accomplished mature it's a matter of putting them in a system and getting to you know one one form of belief in one another but uh they you know their skills were already there and uh then how do you maximize by putting those skills together with uh uh college you're you're developing skills and uh and but all the things around you know the NCAA rules uh you know NIL transfer report like there's a much more BS to put up with I would say so on that it's happening in football too you know what's happening is yeah no it there's you know and it's bureaucratic you know bureaucratic BS oh yeah which is the worst BS in the world do you think because we come from sports we feel that way because sports are a meritocracy I do believe so whenever we run into a bureaucratic bullshit we are immediately turned off by it do you think that is because we're from sports yeah I think a bureauc you know bureaucracy they they say you can't do it because it hasn't been done or it costs too much money if you're an athlete a coach you you say I can do that you know I'll be willing to do whatever I can to do it it's more I can get it done instead here the here a couple reasons why we're not even going to try to get it done and you're like stuck in mud in bureaucratic mud thank you for explaining how I feel you know that's why I just felt it just feels like you know it felt like I was talking to a therapist right there okay the reason why you don't like this is because this is basically what this says you have been taught your entire life this is how this goes so it's just a natural clash that's what coach can't you can't you're you're as an athlete you want you're instinctive you know you seize on opportunities you know if you're a bureaucrat you put the brakes on and say well you know let me figure this out why you know so I'd rather be on the side of the athlete yeah me too hey amen I'll tell you that speaking of athlete one that's taking over we have about a minute and a half before a hard out so while you're giving your answer to Conor's question I might cut you off or there will you see a countdown on the bottom of the screen you should utilize the countdown as your own and send people off ESPN as we continue digitally go it was show is still live after the thing hit zero you you just will have to address that we're no longer on ESPN you've been on the show six seven times now this should not be a problem for you coach you're a professional on tv go ahead Conor yeah coach over the weekend the player passed talking about Cooper Flagg former Duke Blue Devil it feels like he is on this meteoric rise right now and he's kind of understanding how the NBA is working as his first season comes to a close what are you seeing out of him and is this one of those things where you finish the first season your rookie year and you kind of know like okay this guy's going to be all NBA within the next few years possibly one of the faces of the league no he is going to be one of the faces of the league he's the real deal and Jason Kidd the Mavericks coach has done a terrific job of putting him in positions where he can use his talent has played him a lot of minutes and has really he's been their leader how you know oh no it broke you the countdown broke you let's break some news here you'll continue about Cooper Flagg in a state of basketball on the other side on digital on youtube on ESPN plus Disney plus and tiktok live Mike Malone formerly of the Nuggets is going to be hired to Carolina wow what Pete Thamble just kind of reported that as we roll through we continue we'll see you tomorrow with a new national champion goodbye okay coach k you had a lot of yeah we had a lot of time there Malone getting hired though fresh out of obviously he gets pushed out of the Nuggets right before the playoffs last year yes after winning a title is that true uh it was reported by Schefter which people are not going to be happy about and uh no he said it was Pete Thamble that's true North Carolina intends to hire long time NBA coach Michael Malone is the school's next basketball coach he's an NBA championship coach with the Denver Nuggets from 2022 to 2023 that's when 510 games as NBA coach okay we know Mike Malone we assume you do as well has great moxie and character in verve I think that could be good for college hoops do you agree with that and how do you feel about the son is North Carolina why is North Carolina about to come back to start smacking duke around uh oh uh oh coach k NBA champions coming to town you can see loves her in well uh they had an NFL champion hired as the coach and Duke B caroline and football this year that's a mean coach bella check isn't a great coach okay okay there is time for adjustment that's why I said uh it takes longer uh if you ever get adjusted coming from the pros to college and uh uh Mike is a terrific coach and a terrific guy uh there's a learning curve and um you know it's if if that is true uh whatever the reasoning is that maybe they're they're changing you know they have now two pro coaches coaching in college the infrastructure of their athletic department is it now going to become more of a pro organization which I think if that's true I think everybody should be doing that and the fact that uh he knows how to do that and and so does uh uh coach bella check um maybe that's a sign that they're moving in that in in that direction organizationally we shall see what the right move is for everybody in the future we're obviously in a never changing time of college sports yeah there was an executive order signed uh this weekend for the score act basically which I think is what has been worked on is that accurate yeah I don't know if it's exactly that but the the thing about the executive order you know it says that they you know a kid can only transfer once and if you well if you transfer is the second time you'd have to sit out a year the thing about that executive order it hasn't gone to court you know with a kid uh with a kid that wants to transfer more than once and doesn't want to sit out and I would think that that would be hard to rule against that young man since uh a normal student can transfer as many times as he or she wants to I uh I was a little bit surprised about that aspect uh of it because it will be challenged labor laws too right won't labor laws come into play because you're taking away potential money also you're you're hurting right now a college athlete has shown the ability to to make money and make a living during his or her four years in college in and to go to the best place for it you'll be taking away that right for them to look for their their best I just think legally that's going to be a tough thing to hold up to good luck out there lost your pen yeah job did you had a big moment against shack earlier today that we should never forget that huge dude hey he beat shack and basketball at football and basketball yeah I don't know coach I don't know maybe you're making us all a little bit better because there's no way that should happen I don't think still got eligibility of shire needs me yeah something to think about five years in total you know that's part of that whole rule too and he won't transfer if you let him in five years the five years total um yeah I'm supportive of and I'm not I'm not saying I'm not supportive of the other I just don't see how it uh I don't think you're living in reality is what you're saying yeah these are things where there's like fantasy things that are mentioned like I wish we should have this and it's like there's no way that's going to happen though so like in reality what do we need to happen I learned about that during the first cba negotiations where's like I was a young buck and I think I'm like we should just get this we should do this get rid of thc testing what are we even doing it's like okay now let's go to reality uh because they also have opinions on that side as well and how this all should go it's like oh so we got to get the best deal that we can get done done is basically what it is which I think you're alluding to it's like hey the transfer thing sounds good but we don't think that's going to get that's going to hold up the deal probably that that is probably going to be a part that is going to hold up the entirety so maybe they'll continue to try to tinker with that and get this whole thing done because we love college more especially here in Indianapolis this place was a buzz the last four days everybody's here coach we uh we obviously wish you would have been able to make it but you've got a chance to feel it now it all comes to a head tonight D-butt has a question for you coach yeah gotta ask one of the greatest basketball minds ever who uh who wins tonight is you can't get number seven or michigan nick getting number two tonight well i'd like to know the injury report um um you know wendelborg and uh and solo ball uh i i think it'd be tough for Connecticut to win if solo's not playing uh they're not as they're not as deep i think michigan is favored and probably rightfully so uh it'll come down to tempo uh and you know it can the thing about i think michigan's deeper and uh i i love mara i don't think there's anybody well there isn't anybody like i mean seven threes even taller than shack uh the thing that'll be interesting tonight for me is michigan defending connecticut danie and his team run these sets like wow they're unbelievable sets and they're running all the time they're moving all the time does that negate some of the bigness the the fact that michigan is bigger in other words you got two seven three and two six nine guys those uh the front line for michigan two of those guys are gonna have to guard uh perimeter and caravan who is like a perimeter and how how they defend that and i don't know how much zone they've played and uh and remember connecticut is uh one of the slowest tempo teams in the united states and and they've been that doesn't mean they're slow they're just slower so if they can reduce the number of possessions like that but controlling tempo not holding the ball but making michigan play defense you know running running their butts through all these sets i think that that'll be the key to the game uh and and how that's done and and i i still think michigan should win uh but uh danie's been in so many games where somebody should have and they did and uh so uh uh this is gonna be a very coach so who you taking it sounds like you're kind of you're thinking maybe you con because you just remember dan hurley you're like wait a minute no yeah the thing is yeah i remember a couple weeks ago i said you know big ten has it won in 26 years a national championship and i don't know if by saying that i've kind of uh you know messed around with the basketball gods where they uh and and they say and maybe they're gonna have pity on you i don't know because you were kind of crying when i was saying no i was just like you know now you were pontificating about i'm just talking about the north and i'll tell you what you odors from the south you know acc and the sec nicks sabin yourself you guys just don't really understand because back in your day you never thought never even a thought nowadays though who just won the women's national championship that's the big turn oh yeah the north over there in los angeles the north right over there in los angeles won the crown big 12 the north over there in the the appalachian over there who won that by the way i'm not from the south that chicago i get a big guy at heart you understand you see what's going on the north side of chicago so just so you know that what baseball team is that there's only one baseball team in chicago the go go did you watch a lovable reunion did you watch a lovable reunion lovable reunion with um grandpa rossy and anthony rizzo they're doing like a full reunion podcast because it was 10 years ago no i haven't seen that yeah why would you love it you will enjoy we went in the past yeah we haven't won very much but when we do we celebrate it for years and years and instead of winning another one where we could celebrate for you i love that coach you've been amazing for us we appreciate it hopefully we'll get a chance to catch up with you maybe tomorrow you know post national championship run if not we just want to let you know you crushed it for us you were so incredibly kind to us we we are very very grateful for that thank you for the wood thank you for the cheap ass t-shirt that you're sending that said i want you to wash it it'll shrink two sizes i appreciate everything coach all right i've loved being with you guys you got you have quite a team and boy what a show you had today you get you get people you you got some really great people today not that you don't on other shows but they have jim nantz and shack and green yeah coach freaking k and coach coach k coach k on there you you only made us better brother and make us better we're very very grateful all right well thank you guys and your hair has remained same color the whole side you're looking a little gray but yeah geez ladies and gentlemen living legend coaching icon friend of the program coach k thank you coach aj how you doing pal i'm doing great man miss you guys but yeah it's good good to be back it was it was actually very fun sitting there watching shack compete against the board yeah you know obviously we knew that was coming just kind of hijacked the whole thing just kind of do a thundered olympics with shack i'm just happy didn't rip the the big hoops down yeah because i don't know how these brick walls would have done age you know what i'm saying we'd be able to take that thing right even though like a little basic dunk of shacks would have taken that thing right off the floor i'm so i'm happy we kept him kind of distracted away from those yeah smart he took down the like uh the office one like the room one that was above the walkway out there because obviously he's the only one that could just grab it yeah like that because he's seven for one that thing was ripped off i think we kind of have to keep that there now somehow in the way but they do have to kind of keep it there there's only 12 like ropes around put some ropes around it like you know like they when people call off to their their logo in the middle of the locker room yeah that's what it should be and it should be the pole the poles in between the ropes will just be shocked standing like this don't touch this standing like this give me that fucking thing i fucking ripped it off didn't have it on camera you should be filming me that's what he was saying yeah literally my only thing hey it wasn't on fucking case but i don't give a fuck that's all i knew not on me how many enemies did this guy got all of them so many probably all of them emmy's platinum rap album we forgot about that we brought that up today it's like geesis christ this guy was on it still is 370 businesses that money's so long for shack beast unbelievable he does talk a lot of shit you know about the modern generation we did it so he said right here went right into it make more money you guys get they almost went into fly private planes eat nice food yeah you got sleep doctors nutritionists and we did it nice hotels it's just that they're always going to view it that way like that is how all the old heads are going to view that's why aj gets so pumped when he sees the guardians out that's right yeah right edge okay no i wouldn't say that's the case but this is something that's been going on forever don't you think the previous generations always like since sports have been a thing i would imagine this has been going on i mean jackie moon and the tropics were on that bus yeah oh yeah and now you know that's the way it goes that's why the minor leaguers have been talking shit about the major leaguers who didn't do the bus trips and shit in the minor paul skeens would say just do better than that's the boss that you do better you don't have to do that it's kind of thing he did for like a month speaking of doing better how about the best of all time you got some good heat there's some good heat there it's good i tell you what just the truth somebody told me they're gonna kill my kid sweet very nice thing this weekend it's like okay that even more so makes me believe gotta do this for the future of the business you know what i mean for the future of the business go to kind of hear something i think there was some rumbling shout to st louis by the way i know it's a tough time right now with your sports and everything like that and i said some some things that you might not like but these are all just facts but yeah i mean randy and i obviously got chance chat combine some other things are taking place and i'm motivating you know and let's see where this all goes huh let's see what happens huh let's see how this rolls out here who knows you think we're just oh you think we just you don't think there's multiple layers to this shit like an onion brother okay exactly we don't have a lot of time obviously in tomania just a few weeks away from 15 world titles being secured by randy orton and the business being saved saturday night wrestle mania i think we got off to a pretty good little start yeah i think we got off 20 years of history between cody roads and randy orton and randy orton is the greatest this guy 65275 a j he walks in a room everybody goes holy shit that's what a wwe superstars that's what a sports entertainers so i've just been confused on why we're not huh yeah there's taking still available why aren't we fucking this is the one yeah this is that what are we doing here so i'm happy that i got a chance to be you know in a year a couple times saying hey now's the time killer now we go save the business you know was that the only one jeez was that the only one you know that was thinking about this i don't know we'll see was there ever a script i wonder no this is real cuz bang bang fun times randy orton's about to win 15 and what we're gonna do is make sure in my daughter who's about turn three he's gonna have a wwe to be a fan of yeah respectful thank god respectable a good one yeah now the 545 guys i've heard aren't necessarily thrown and i appreciate their services oh that's come back adam call said something no he's he's not he's not he's not he was at one point he was annexed and he's not tall and i'd like to say that i'm cool adam call is a guy that i have i would watch yeah i would now i'm just saying now anything that isn't randy orton chomper was pissed he's not in the wwe anyway come on i don't know i don't know what i'm saying is tony catch up okay please jeez sorry this guy hasn't been watching because it's like perfect example there's so many people that used to be fan he stopped watching it's like this we love these guys what i'm saying though is anything that isn't randy orton right now why are we doing it yeah like what are we even i said at the con but i said you look like a wwe superstar well these guys don't this is we got it looking to use sammy zane okay see there's no reason for that sammy sammy does a lot for a business we appreciate that but we all understand the top of the card needs to look like the wwe exactly yeah bang and then all of a sudden whenever this thing this specimen directly from the wrestling gods is on the top of the marquee everything else starts changing a little bit everything else starts moving a little different so that's why i'm lucky enough to be in the year of randy orton am i the only one yeah we'll find out i tell you what that's a tough ball shot there kody legs still got it i'm pretty good shape right now and i appreciate kody and what he said and responded back to he knows it he knows long term this is what he's good deep down he knows yeah he knows everything we said real let's save this thing you're welcome a lot of people said why randy orton say there's more one-world family wrestling it's like do you think somebody may be reminding them of that you think somebody said why do we always care about somebody else's family yeah why is this one why why how come not the man who's about to be 15 time world champions family whose fodder and fodder's fodder blood blood around this world for the business and they created the greatest of all time randy orton so you know there's a lot of different things but i'm not the only one it feels this way i'm gonna let people know on the internet i'm not the only one it feels this way let's see how it all goes edge we'll see how it all goes but we're certainly on the road to wrestle mania and it is fantastic you should come watch aj tickets still available you can certainly get a deal with our friends at sea geek i would assume 30 off but this is going to be a night that you're going to want to be in yeah this is going to be a night that is talked about 20 30 years from now so i'm excited to be there pumped to be a part of it and randy orton is a very easy sell for me and any human with a brain yeah aj oh yeah how do you feel to be uh be back in there it's been a little bit it was good to be back you know it was just good to be back in alive but honestly i feel like we're really doing a mission here i feel like we're really doing a mission here like this service for for wrestling right you're doing a service for the industry for my daughter you know and baby bambino that's currently on the way it's like i would like them to be wrestling wrestling is life okay wrestling is actually life that is how much i am a fan of the business wrestling is like you view life differently if you're a wrestling fan but what it has become with who is it it's just i would like you know a certain point enough is enough yeah let's go we got a 65275 guy here let's make sure everybody knows that whenever they see wwe this is wwe superhuman's an actual human form like let's uh let's make sure we know that not that there's everybody's shite but if you're taking up tv time over randy orton it's gonna be hard for me to like it and uh that's for shoot brother thank you dbut did you re-pump the hop in that car and get on the road to wrestling yeah fuck shit bones been fucking bumping on bump yeah he brought snacks i hope there's multiple cars i'm not riding with that guy i will all right shock bones bones got this new hair his hair looks great what happened what do you do he's in the middle stage right now trying to grow it out and it's just you know he quit the business he quit the business he was the biggest mark we knew for sure and he quit the business whenever everything went down with old john sena and he said you know what i'm back i said you know what thank you for that honor so see just know the next few weeks the next few weeks are gonna be biblical we're gonna do it because this is what he's gonna do maybe even you a j you got some shit to say oh uh oh i saw i tell you what i did i'm sorry i did watch jelly i watched jelly's youtube he's got a great youtube channel going jelly behind the scenes getting ready rest stretching get like it was fun to see it's cool to see jelly's little transformation through the rest of the world and how he's working at it jelly roll took an RKO from randy he's got caught in the middle there i don't think he made the right decision to kind of place himself there i love jelly roll obviously i was there whenever he got inducted in the grand opera lucky to be there thankful to be there he obviously multiple time grammy award winner his concerts i mean sell out stadiums alongside poster doing it again i love jelly roll he just made a flat out strategic air trying to get in there and do that and did he know that you know randy was on an absolute kill spree you know because it's much bigger than just right now this is for future generations also 15 world titles but also like let's do this whole thing jelly roll didn't know that maybe she told him that hey listen now's not the time to be getting in between randy yeah maybe but jelly should know jelly should know now i think randy's a beast i'll learn what a monster i did feel alive in there though i'm gonna let you know it was nice to be back felt like we're doing something special age how could you not all right we'll be back tomorrow fucking new national champion are you guys going what time you guys go the win let's pick the game yeah you're right we gotta do that are you gonna go college yeah yeah i'm definitely doing that 850 start time gotta leave about 350 to get down there yeah oh one shiny moment but you're gonna be able to be there that boom are you you're going you have to you're in the suite yeah bring your binocs bring your but maybe bring some benac it is a zoomed out photo at least i'm gonna i'm gonna job move around if i need to all right i'm telling you it's tough to move around too yeah it's for you but i i i trust i trust your process do they curtain off part of the the arena the stadium no no it was pretty huge dude there's i mean a basketball court is tiny when you think of a football field compared to a basketball court that looks tiny it actually doesn't look that tiny in the stadium it really doesn't but it's i mean there are there are a lot of people in there a lot of people and there's a lot of roads shut down downtown yes like i think people that got into downtown to start the final four celebrations have had the time of their life because everything's just been like perfect because you're in there getting in much like anything that's great gonna be difficult once you're in i've heard it is fantastic certainly but boy it has i i guess you know especially if you don't live downtown not downtown boy you know so that's a little difficult to get there it is tough no matter what yeah getting into indy especially with events shut down the city for these events which is why it's such a good host yes like willing to do whatever to make people feel comfortable and have a good time which is why indianapolis is such a good host tonight the national championship will be decided downtown indy lucas oil stadium uconn takes on michigan michigan has been the bta all the way since the first round you calling the little engine that could just a little tiny engine that uh the big east real a real chip on the shoulder mentality dogs who have obviously a buzzer beater in a massive moment and maybe the basketball gods on their side because coach hurley wears the same suit for every single basketball college tournament game he also wears the same underwear so maybe the basketball gods say you know what we respect that they do this guy's sacrificing a lot of things right now probably smells like shit yeah because i think those types of things even if you clean them i think they're like the next day beers magic beers where like once you have a beer or two you're right back into what the night was before i think once he sweats a little bit it activates yeah all of the sweat from all of the years i think i'm pretty sure and i believe his wife had to run back and get his uh his cat rosary be so he has those on thank you i mean the basketball gods might yeah thank you mr the basketball gods might literally be like this this psycho deserves what's all about i i mean this this is the one yeah this psycho deserves but on the other side michigan seemingly blessed by the basketball gods as well not a lot of speed bumps not a lot of adversity it's been a lot of we kick your ass you just show up here on that note let's pick this game let's go to the talks at table at boston conrad thai schmitt con man six and a half point spread who do you like how do you like it yeah i'll take you con plus six and a half that's way too much i don't know if they're gonna win the game completely but then early's not gonna like i can't really envision uconn or dan hurley being down 10 with you know 15 seconds ago i could see them being down 10 with two minutes and then bang bang bang they're in the game just like against duke but six and a half points against the guy who's what 11 and 0 was the was the was the record correct in the final four and sweet 16 and on against the spread i don't know i know it was 18 one overall completely but at the most important times he's covering spreads six and a half i mean that is ridiculous they're one and a half point dogs and they won by 11 so i feel pretty good about uconn plus six and a half okay and records say you should feel good about dan hurley if you're putting money on a game especially with our friends at draft kings we're trying to get to crown yeah he has got a lot of crowns for a lot of people thai who are you taking a crown with yeah i mean it's the big 10 through and through you know we kind of said that it was the big 10's title to lose this year you know maybe should have had two big 10 teams in the title game uconn's very good they are i mean that that first game was an unbelievable watch on saturday but then if you stuck around and you heard everyone saying that michigan arizona was basically the de facto national championship and how good arizona was michigan beat the dog shit out of them just ran right through them i don't think they're going to beat the shit out of uconn but i do like them to win and cover tonight it's it's the big 10's year ucla just won a title michigan's gonna win a title tonight and then big the big 10 once again will be the best football conference and it'll also be the best basketball conference and america still is hockey let's remember that anytime we're talking about clean sweeps of things we need to make sure we are reminding everybody that hockey is our sport i don't know if michigan won that but i do know iskansas big 10 boom was a woman i think the men are still gone somebody we got a bunch of big 10 teams big day and doing a lot of stuff only thing they might not have the big 10 is uh rifle and uh that's because of west jama sure oh and that's not even to mention baseball ucla is one like 24 games in a row and they're the big 10 as well it looks like men's uh frozen four is michigan vs denver and wisconsin vs nord dakota it looks i think we got two we can have a big 10 final oh that'd be crazy if you think big 10's got a lot of money to invest in a lot of things sports are certainly one of them tone one half of the hammer die cowboys uh who do you like how do you like uh i'm in the same boat as uh connor and he took uh uconn plus the points in that situation i also am a big 10 guy so you know hoping for michigan um but uh big yeah yeah they're popping up these days yeah sure what else would i be i just can't argue with hurley's against the spread stats though and i'm also a numbers guy so i will go with uh uconn to cover michigan winning in a great game wow i like that uh we're gonna hit the the double there we're corner yeah the exact the connor's corner there i like your splitting up writes on that derriest j butler i know fair and biased your thoughts your uh nah you know where i stand you kind of husky through and through uh i'm gonna take this straight up no points needed and take them straight up i believe on the crown is plus 230 last time i looked so i'm gonna lock that in soon as we get off air we get number seven and hurley that suit the rosary the draws they all go into basketball hall of fame a j hawk uh are all those things headed to the hall of fame after a national championship for uconn are they keeping it close or does the big tens team from up north do their thing in the national championship in indianapolis i tell you what dusty may and his michigan squad they are an absolute juggernaut and coach k like he listened to him talk about it feels like he's leaning michigan he didn't really want to give uh you know give us exactly what he was thinking we were i'm taking uconn plus six and half and you've gone to win on this one did he say ishigan did i hear that he said michigan i came after my time i was there i came after my time when they started doing that i thought i thought you're on vacation still in your brain just forgot that that's what you say you're saying that's not our thing that's a new thing i don't like it it's a new ish yes so yeah new ish so you guys did do it you just say that it's old no i mean they didn't do it when i was there when i was playing it was a long i played i played i was in college a long time ago pat i'm 42 years old you we respect that you're happy birthday too we missed a few you're telling me the general bob carpenter didn't say michigan more like ishigan am i right just not one time when you guys were back there don't say that maybe now he's saying a little bit but not not back then the rest in peace of the icon nick mangled didn't say hey during michigan we call me nick angold and also recalling that ishigan no i cannot recall if that happened or not probably not rest in peace what a legend that was crazy that that happened and here's a nice reminder that we need to enjoy the hell out of all of this ladies and gentlemen we'll be back tomorrow with a new national champion and you are picking what you got let's run the boys what are you doing come on man um um yeah crown is yours you've been carrying big tens water too like you're not a fucking big east guy i am a big east guy big east all academic team first year yeah that was when i went to class that's a good point buddy yeah all right give me you a call plus six and a half though yeah dusty man is good this guy it's gonna be a good game i feel like it's gonna be a fun game to watch though if you can stay away fucking better be staying up that goddamn late are you going no is anybody i did my deal on saturday night sound like i will be there foxy go okay well actually one half of the hammer down cowboys bubblegum be no you've watched the most college basketball out of any human that i know uh congrats on another great season i saw that d3 boys had an electrifying finish in their national championship how do you feel this one goes tonight gumps and how do you think the season was as a whole unbelievable season as far as tonight it's a Dan Hurley masterclass folks you caught out right wow outright there you go man the crown is ours that's what you said i heard it i'm taking plus six yeah yeah that me too family three came down to this emory mary washington he's got it he shoots it he tips it kind game they win mary washington becomes the d3 champion i believe there is a deep three made on the other side by emory too to potentially tie that up then they come down an answer with that shit unbelievable what a moment and that's what their one shining moment was yeah it's march what will tonight's one shining moment be i'll tell you what i don't really like the song but i do appreciate the moment what so i'll sing the shit out of that thing today i will have to i'll celebrate what march madness was i'll celebrate march madness strictly because this was post nfl post combine sports life for us it'll be nice to relive it it'll be nice to go back through those magical moments whenever we had that space rented out air con and we're watching those games people getting ridiculously intoxicated talk is going lights out at the beer pong table yep with his lights out and his just all the time yeah i don't think so he's a weapon and that's what march madness has been for us electric we'll be back tomorrow be your friend tell your friends something nice you might change your life we're in this thing together randy orton saving the business at mania tickets are somehow still available i have no idea how that's possible it's crazy isn't that crazy that is nuts not for long not for long is right get him now that's right a j welcome back good to be here i hope that uh one of the surprise maybe bob backland maybe fan don't go about you never know tune in you never know tune in a j you looked much tanner before the vacation then after the vacay i do i agree with that i think my my um sprayed it peeked uh when i came on the show right before i left for the trip i think that's why my 10 uh so we gotta maybe time it better up next time i thought you did great it looked like a blast it's great to have you back we'll see you tomorrow uh be a friend tell friends i'm nice my change of life we're in this thing together team on me team on three one two three good night