Virginia Is Turning Blue And Nobody’s Stopping It... | Amy Dangerfield | DSH #1975
46 min
•May 21, 20269 days agoSummary
Amy Dangerfield discusses her journey from sales to independent content creator, her involvement with the America First movement, and concerns about digital IDs, censorship, and government overreach globally. The episode covers political activism among Gen Z, the Epstein case complexities, and her mission to promote Christian and patriotic values through content creation.
Insights
- Gen Z political activism is surging despite historical low voter turnout, driven by younger candidates refusing to disavow controversial figures and resonating authentically with base concerns
- Digital ID implementation globally (Australia, UK) follows a pattern of voluntary-to-mandatory transition, with financial penalties and employment restrictions used as enforcement mechanisms
- Mainstream narratives around high-profile cases (Epstein, Prince Andrew) often obscure actual charges and evidence, driven by engagement incentives rather than factual reporting
- Right-wing infighting over purity tests mirrors past left-wing cancel culture tactics, threatening movement cohesion despite shared policy goals
- Bot farms and coordinated online attacks are weaponized politically to suppress engagement, suppress visibility, and manipulate algorithmic reach across platforms
Trends
Rise of 'America First' candidates as counter to establishment MAGA, attracting Gen Z through authentic messaging and refusal to disavowGlobal push toward digital ID systems as infrastructure for social credit and surveillance, with US Real ID as potential trial runCoordinated online harassment campaigns using bot networks to suppress creators and manipulate platform algorithms based on keywords and messagingShift in Gen Z political engagement from passive to active, with younger voters becoming primary organizing force despite demographic skepticismDecentralization of media production enabling independent creators to bypass institutional gatekeeping and reach audiences directlyWeaponization of victim narratives in high-profile cases to obscure actual evidence and drive engagement-based reportingCross-ideological collaboration emerging around America First messaging, transcending traditional left-right political divisionsIncreasing international surveillance and legal persecution for online speech, particularly in Five Eyes countries (Australia, UK, Canada)
Topics
Digital ID Implementation and Mandatory Adoption TimelinesGen Z Political Activism and America First MovementOnline Harassment and Bot Farm WeaponizationContent Creator Independence and Platform DecentralizationEpstein Case Evidence and Narrative ManipulationFree Speech Restrictions in Five Eyes CountriesRight-Wing Infighting and Purity TestsCBDCs and Social Credit System InfrastructureReal ID as Digital ID Trial RunCoordinated Media Narratives and Engagement FarmingInternational Surveillance and Visa RevocationPlatform Censorship and Algorithmic SuppressionCandidate Vetting and Movement AuthenticityChristian Nationalism and Patriotic Content StrategyIndependent Creator Economics and Production
Companies
Value Entertainment
Amy worked in studio production and pitched her show 'Hurtake' to this company, learning YouTube operations before go...
YouTube
Primary platform for Amy's content distribution; experienced 14X view increase after going independent with improved ...
Rumble
Alternative platform Amy is migrating to for live streaming; CEO donated during her first live stream broadcast
OnlyFans
Discussed as MLM-like platform with referral scheme; top 1% earners make ~$2,000/month despite recruitment incentives
TikTok
Platform where Amy's clips of Nick Fuentes were instantly deleted; noted as owned by Chinese interests
Patreon
Platform that banned creator Tyler Oliveira, sparking backlash against supporters like Nick Shirley
X (formerly Twitter)
Primary social platform where Amy experiences bot attacks and coordinated harassment campaigns based on keywords
Crosy TV
Alternative platform where Nick Fuentes was accessible when banned from mainstream platforms in 2022-2023
People
Amy Dangerfield
Guest discussing her journey from sales to independent creator and involvement with America First movement
Nick Fuentes
America First movement leader; Amy has followed since late 2022, met in person at Sourcecast panel in 2023
James Fishback
America First candidate gaining Gen Z support; Amy attended his rally in Naples and praised his grassroots organizing
Anna Kasperian
Co-panelist on Hurtake; Amy describes her as exceptional debater and close friend despite ideological differences
Wendy Lee
Co-panelist on Hurtake; Amy describes her as close friend and valued collaborator
Jillian Michaels
Co-panelist on Hurtake political show; part of right-wing answer to The View format
Myron Gaines
Mentioned as talented debater capable of winning arguments even when audience disagrees
Destiny
Mentioned as skilled debater who can win arguments across ideological lines
Andrew Wilson
Mentioned as talented debater in political discourse
Pearl
Debated Anna Kasperian on feminist topics; lost debate according to host assessment
Tyler Oliveira
Recently banned from Patreon for exposing Orthodox Jewish community fraud; sparked backlash against Nick Shirley
Nick Shirley
Previously praised for exposing Muslim community issues; now attacked for supporting Tyler Oliveira's similar investi...
Laura Loomer
Frequently criticized by Amy for negative, divisive tweets; described as engagement-farming and ratio'd regularly
Rodney Dangerfield
Referenced regarding Amy's last name; his stage name was not originally Dangerfield
Santino
Introduced Amy to Nick Fuentes content in late 2022
Thomas Massie
Mentioned as outspoken opponent of Real ID implementation; pushed Epstein files transparency act
Keir Starmer
Announced UK digital ID requirement by 2029 for employment
Virginia Giuffre
Discussed as potential recruiter of underage girls to Epstein; court documents show she recruited majority of victims
Jeffrey Epstein
Central figure in discussion about false narratives, prostate autopsy discrepancies, and possible survival
Prince Andrew
Arrested for financial crimes (trade secrets), not sexual impropriety as commonly believed
Quotes
"This truly is the country in the world that is the last bastion of freedom. America falls, everything else is fully done."
Host•Opening segment
"There's power in numbers, and the more people who authentically say what they believe, like the more unstoppable we're going to be."
Amy Dangerfield•Mid-episode
"The political divide in this country is so much more than left versus right. And it really is about America first versus people who are willing to put other nations first or other interests first."
Amy Dangerfield•Mid-episode
"They always start off by saying like, it's not mandatory. It's up to you. It's completely voluntary. And then they'll slowly start making it mandatory."
Host•Opening segment
"Christ first above everything, but then America first, when it comes to patriotism and giving back to this nation."
Amy Dangerfield•Closing segment
Full Transcript
They always start off by saying like, it's not mandatory. It's up to you. It's completely voluntary. And then they'll slowly start making it mandatory. First in the private sector, and then eventually it moves to the public sector as well. Like in Australia, if you're a business owner and you don't have a digital ID, you'll be fined potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. In the UK, if you don't have a digital ID, you won't be able to work without it by 2029. This truly is the country in the world that is the last bastion of freedom. America falls, everything else is fully done. Like, in Australia, the UK, all these places are already cooked, but like, they'll be beyond cooked. OK, guys, we got Amy in studio today, drinking coffee at 5pm. Let's go. I love the boldness. How's it going? Yeah, I'm good. How are you? Good. Not getting cancelled, you know? Yeah. I'm hanging in there. It's tough these days, right? When you associate with the griper movement. Rar. And I've got him on the Joe and a couple people canceled, lost a couple sponsors. Really? Yeah, nothing too crazy, though. OK. But it was definitely a little noticeable. Man, it's crazy that they coined that new term, the work riot, but they're more so applying it to people within the griper movement. But I think it's the opposite. It's the people in the right who are trying to say you need to publicly disavow others, because that's what the left did, right? They had all these purity tests. And if you didn't believe exactly what they believed then, you needed to be canceled and excommunicated. And we made fun of them for doing that. But now they're doing it to people on the right. Now the right is canceled. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the left was known for that. And now we're doing it. And all the infighting on the right is crazy. Now they're going after Candice. Yeah, that's what I would label the work riot, honestly, is all the people who are trying to do the canceling. Yeah. How do you think it got to that point? I think that they're threatened, that some of these ideas are really starting to catch a lot of steam. And people are resonating. And it's really kind of rallying the younger people. A lot of Gen Z are becoming very politically active in a way that they've never been before. Gen Z is kind of renownedly known to not actually vote, right? But they're actually getting out there, and they're getting politically active. And I think they're terrified of the old God that carries a lot of power and a lot of money and a lot of influence. They're scared of losing that influence. And it's kind of intimidating for them when they see young guys who don't have the money and the resources that they have getting so much attention and really seeing that the power could actually come back to the people the end of the day. Yeah, America first versus MAGA, right? Kind of the new school versus the old school. Yes, yes, indeed, 100%. And there's a lot of America first candidates that are coming out now that I really, really respect. Yeah, I just did an interview with James Fishback. Shout out to James. Yeah, shout out to James. He's doing incredible. Governorial candidate for Florida. We did a rally out at C2Table in Naples. And I was a little bit scared to be on it because Naples, it's an older kind of community. You think you have more like establishment MAGA people hanging out there. And so we did this live podcast. It's the first live podcast that I've ever did since going independent, meaning with a live audience. And I was like, we're probably going to get some booze. There'll be cheers, but there'll be some booze as well. I feel like when we start talking about more contentious topics around A-Pack, is rail, things like this. Everyone was cheering. Really? Yeah, everyone was cheering. Wow, that's shocking. He rallies people unlike anything that I've ever seen before. He's a workhorse. Every night he's out there campaigning. I see a campaign every time I'm scrolling. Yeah, yeah. He's passion a lot of steam, honestly. It's incredible to see. I actually was on an online panel with him. This was my first time meeting him in person in Naples, but months before, we did an online show together. And I didn't even know who this guy was then. He was barely getting any attention. And in a matter of just a couple of months, from just working hard, speaking through the power, connecting with the younger base, and refusing to disavow, people, like Winters and the Gropers, when people are calling him to, he's garnered a lot of respect amongst Gen Z, Verdes. That's exactly what happened to me. So he was at MFest two years ago. I didn't have him on, just being honest. I didn't know who he was. Then he was at Student Action Summit. I wasn't going to have him on again, but then someone canceled, so I filled him in. That's where I met him. And then he just started blowing up. And his movement's been insane. It really has been. It's one of a kind. Shout out to James. Yeah, shout out to James. Shout out to Dennis as well. I know you had Dennis on. Dennis is also on the board. There was another America first candidate. He's doing an ad in California though, which is probably even more difficult, I would say, than out in Florida. So yeah, these guys are starting to become a lot more bolder. They're starting to speak up, which is incredible. Nick says that people should hide their power level, and I get that. I totally get that, but I feel like the more we, you know, authentically say what we believe to be true, and we're not afraid of the blowback, and the blowback's going to be inevitable. But there's power in numbers, and the more people who authentically say what they believe, like the more unstoppable we're going to be. Absolutely. It's nice seeing people be more public about it. It's kind of like, remember those memes about like, coming out as a Republican? Yeah. Now it's like coming out as a Groy Park away. Yeah, it was coming out as a Republican. Yeah. Trump's first term. Really scary. Right. Like a lot of shame. Exactly. It's now it's the same with people who are unapologetically American first. Yeah. How long you been following Fuentes' stuff? Since the end of 2022. Yeah. I spoke to him for the first time in 2023 on a call. My friend Santino actually put me on to him. And back then it was more so like his red pill takes on like women and race realism and things like this. Right. I didn't really get into the APAC stuff till a little bit later. I'd say probably 2024. But yeah, been following and supporting him for a while now. Nice. That is somewhat early I feel like for him because he. He was very banned then. Yeah. That was when he was banned everywhere. Yes. You could only watch him on a platform called Crosy TV. Yeah. And if you wanted to reference him in anything online, you had to put his name in asterisks like a curse word. Like literally otherwise they would flag your video. Like down your video. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. I know he's still face banned on TikTok. Mm-hmm. I tried posting a clip of ours and instantly got deleted. Yeah. Which is crazy. Well, that's not surprising now because that's owned by the Elecens. Yeah. Not surprising at all. Speaking of someone else getting banned though, you see this Tyler Oliveira? Yeah. Yeah. Just got banned on Patreon. Indeed. I did see that. Yeah. And also what's interesting is the blowback that's come upon Nick Shirley for supporting him. Did you see that? Saw that too. Yeah. Yeah. No. He obviously, this guy Tyler just did exactly what Nick Shirley did, but exposing the power in like Orthodox Jewish communities that are taking over the area, committing a lot of the same fraud, monopolizing resources. The same thing that Shirley reported on. And all he said was expose them all. And for that, all of the people who are elevating Nick Shirley as this legend for calling out, you know, the Muslims, now they are attacking him. Those same people who supported him and are attacking him. Because all he did was say, expose them all. Three words. Can now get you hate. Yeah. He's being attacked by Laura Luma and a lot of people on the establishment. Right? Every time I see her tweet about something, it's negative. Yeah. Like it's never like I felt better after reading that. It's always like, what the fuck? It's got her calling someone out. Yeah. Pretty much. And then seven other people call the same person out. What's different words lately? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, and she's just on a bash in it too. Like she'll get ratioed, but she'll just keep going. She doesn't care though. I think she just does it for love of the game, honestly. Love of the game. It's some money, sepau, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Relevance. Yeah. It's a dick, Nick. For sure it is. Yeah, I need to take mental detoxes over time. Are you pretty vindictive? Like do you respond to haters and people like that on Twitter? No, not really. I mean, every so often I will, but more so I do not. Yeah, I've grown pretty thick skin. I would say. Never responded to one. Never responded to one. Wow. No. I don't see most of them, but the ones I do. It's just the really dumb ones that I respond to. Like someone the other day, they're like, Dangerfield is a Jewish last name. I was just like. That's wild. No, it's not. What do you, are you referring to Rodney Dangerfield? Because that wasn't his real last name, you know? That was a stage name. Yeah. If you weren't aware. So just like really dumb things like that. Someone called me out for being on clavicular stream. Never been on clavicular stream. It's just like the dumb blatantly untrue thing. Sometimes I'll respond to this. Yeah, just to clarify the truth. To let, yeah. Just to let people know how dumb they are. You have been on Fresh and Fit though. Yes. Yeah. Shout out Fresh and Fit. Were you debating them or what was the? No, no, no. This is back in. When was it? Like 2023, I think. Yeah, something like that. A friend of mine was connected in Fresh's group chat. Yeah. He has like his mentorship group chat program that he runs. And they were looking for some girls to come on and maybe kind of challenge the only fans models a little bit. And so that's why my name officially got thrown in the bucket. They invited me on. And just some clips went viral of me debating these girls. And that's the whole reason why I created my YouTube channel. Because other people kept posting a bunch of clips of me that were performing extremely well. Yeah. So I was like, hey, I might as well just rip this thing and just throw it up on my own channel, essentially. And that was my first couple of shorts that went super viral. Let's be real. 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I don't carry genuine hate and vitriol in my heart, unlike a lot of these other people, seemingly. So I do enjoy debates, but that was my first public one. Very interesting. And performed really well. That one was not super adversarial either. Like it was, but it was also me trying to reach this girl and say, you seem pretty intelligent. You're beautiful. You could do so much better than just turn your body into a commodity for men to purchase, because I'm sure that doesn't feel very good. I think society has kind of brainwashed women to be normalized with that idea. But I don't think anyone who does on a self inventory of their mind and their heart probably doesn't feel very good to be in that vision. What ended up happening to her? Did you check in with her, Lynne? I did. I tried to check in with her a little bit. At the time I was involved in sales, and so I tried to hook her up with some different sales roles. And I'm not sure. I followed up with her for a little bit, like six months or so after that. I'm not really sure what happened to her after, but I definitely gave her some job interviews and things like that. Nice. Well, shout out for doing that, because most of these Aleph girls actually don't make that much. No, we don't. Crazy. Yeah, the average income earner on early fans makes, I think it's $2,000 per month. That's not even the average, sorry. Top 1%. Oh, wow, that's it? The top 1%, yeah. Holy crap. I mean, that's typical with most, a lot of businesses. Honestly. That's a hard question. And here's the thing, they have this referral program with only fans, where if they recruit girls onto the platform using their referral link, then they make a percentage of what these girls do. I didn't know that. And so it's kind of like a multi-level marketing scheme for whores, basically. But you look at most MLMs, and the top 1% of earners also only make about $2,000 per month. It's when you get into the top 0.1% or the top 0.01%. These are the people who are actually making hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, but they don't market it as such, obviously, because then they wouldn't be able to recruit people. Right, that makes sense. OK, I got it. So Fresh and Fit, kickstart your career from there. Is that when you went on PBD stuff? Yeah, I went on a podcast called Sourcecast. Yeah, I've been on there. OK, nice. That was an interesting show. I went on there, just got engaged. It was me and eight girls. And what did you think? How was that experience? Weird. My fiance at the time was pretty pissed, but I thought it was interesting. Yeah, so I held my ground. Similar type of format, I would say, kind of to Fresh and Fit. So I went on a couple of times. Actually, my maybe third or fourth time, Nick was on there. So it was my first time meeting him in person. I'd spoken to him once on the phone before that, but it was my first time meeting him in person. And that was kind of wild. Like everybody was attacking him on that panel. Wow. It was it actually, I'm pretty sure it was a coordinated setup. Damn. Yeah, because I recently actually put out a video, because a lot of people have been saying I'm like the original grouper, which I'm not, by the way, there were definitely women who were on board the movement before me. But I was combing through like a lot of the footage of like when we first met and just like tracing through the backstory. And upon like second glance and really getting into it, it seems like there was a little bit of coordination. You see people gesturing like hand signals, like check your text and no way and things like this. Yeah, holy crap. A little bit. Well, I know him and Adam are cool anymore. Nick and Adam. Yeah, I'm not too sure. I know that the last time they met up in person, they seemed pretty fine with you. They were fine then and then I forget. Well, there was the tate thing, probably. Yeah, there was something. Oh, yeah, I think it was the HH stuff. Adam was like, that's the final straw. Yeah, yeah. But I went on Adam's show like several times and then from there, he said that our value attainment was hiring in sales. Since that was my background, I applied for a position, but I didn't like it very much. Nothing to do with them. I just like was kind of over the sales industry, I think at that point. So when I went to quit, they actually offered me a gig in the studio side of things, which was pretty cool. That's what you wanted to do anyways. Yeah, I mean, I already started out my YouTube channel. I'd been on Fresh and Fit by that point. I had a very modest subscriber count. I think like 20,000 subscribers or something like that. It's something, but yeah, pretty small. And so I thought it would be a great opportunity to be able to learn from these guys who had millions of subscribers, you know, getting tens of millions of views, sometimes 100 million views on some of their videos to learn exactly how to run a successful YouTube operation. I was in distribution, so figuring out the best, most strategic ways to post videos. And it was very educational for sure. I learned so much, absolutely. Yeah, definitely want to give value attainment their flowers for teaching me a lot there. And then I pitched a show to them, maybe like a year and a half later, and they eventually accepted that. And it was Hurtake? No, so Hurtake was actually started up around the same time that my show got accepted. So yeah, they put me on that panel with Jillian Michaels, Anna Kasperian and Wendy Lee. I thought that was a great idea. Yeah. There was no political show that has done that. Yeah, no, I agree. Definitely the concept was it was going to be like the view of the right wing, basically. It was kind of like his show because he has four guys on his show and you were kind of like the four females. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I thought it was good. Yeah, good opportunity for sure. For sure. And I got to make some incredible friends that I still love so much. Anna Kasperian is one of my favorite people, same with Wendy Lee. Yeah. And it really taught me. I mean, I kind of already knew this, but it kind of showed me that the political divide in this country is so much more than left versus right. And it really is about America first versus people who are willing to put out the nations first or other interests first. Right. And Anna is a really great example of that, in my opinion. Yeah, she's left, right? She is, yeah, she's left. I mean, I would say honestly, she is issue by issue now. OK. Yeah, I don't think that she would call herself resoundingly left overall, you know, because when she espouses some of her views on certain things, it's like, oh, that's a little bit of a, you know, either moderate or maybe even right wing talking point. It's we found a lot more common ground than differences on her take, which was pretty cool. Yeah, she's great. She's one of the best debaters I've ever seen. Oh, absolutely. Because I saw her against Pearl. Yeah. I was doing podcasts at that event and she won. Yeah. Even though I disagreed with her. Yeah. Like, obviously I'm not in support of feminists or whatever, but she won the debate. Yeah, no, she absolutely did. And I blew my mind that. There's some just really talented debaters, I would say, same with like Destiny. I think that Destiny can probably win a debate even. When you disagree with them. Yeah, yes, that's good. Same with Andrew Wilson. Same with Myron Gaines. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So Anna's awesome. Lindy's awesome. Value team is awesome all over a really great experience, but I am so happy to be independent now. Good feeling right? Yeah, definitely is for sure. It's just given us so much more freedom. My fiance and I to be able to travel. He worked at Value team and two was their top editor. Over there. Yeah, he's extremely talented in production, post production, really everything. He wears all the hats now. He's like my manager, my producer. The editing is everything. The editing really is everything. My views went up 14X in the first month. Oh, wow. Yeah. Incredible. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, no, he's always, you know, cooking up different strategies, coming up with different ideas. You know, he gets very creative with it. And we just have a lot of fun with it now. It's cool. Like a lot of the creative part of my role at Value team, it was kind of overshadowed by like the day to day responsibilities that I needed to focus on. Like those came fast, you know? And so now we just get to be wake up every day and, you know, the day is completely in our hands. However we want it to go, we can either focus fully, lock into work mode for the day and film and edit, or we can just enjoy the day. We can, you know, travel, we can network with people like here on this trip where, you know, doing our GRIP-A family meetup part two. There's some GRIP-A today. Yeah. If you're tired of paying for 10 different tools just to manage your podcasts, leads, funnels, email, SMS and bookings, I've got something that'll change the game for you. Go High Level is the all-in-one platform. Thousands of creators and entrepreneurs are using to run their entire business from one dashboard. No more app overload, no more misleads. And right now, because you're part of the DSH community, you get a completely free 30-day trial. When you sign up through my special link, gohighlevel.com slash digital social hour. 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Coordinated bots. I don't really understand much about the botting thing. I'm actually kind of new to X and I've had an account, but ever only since going independent started posting on it in a very significant way. But I'm pretty sure people have said to me that I've been botted once or twice. Probably. Yeah. They're different types of attacks. Okay. There's attacks where they'll instantly reply to all your tweets and just bot your comment section and disagree with you. Right. They bot your followers sometimes. Okay. They'll have a bunch of fake followers and then it messes up your engagement. Oh, really? Yeah. They bot your views so it messes up your algorithm on YouTube. So you don't show up on the For You page anymore. Oh, no. Yeah. They've weaponized these bot farms politically. Oh my goodness. Yeah. I'm sure once you get bigger, you'll start seeing. Right. And is it attached to certain keywords and stuff like that? Yeah. There's that too. Certain words they'll automatically comment. Right. Like I made a post on X. All I said was what in the Kirk is happening here in response to something. It wasn't even Charlie Kirk related. It's just kind of like a phrase that has, you know, it's not even a leftist phrase. A lot of people on the right, they, I'm sure you've seen the Kirk memes and the digital animations, the AI. Yeah. There's no way people on the left are making those. People on the left do not have a sense of humor. Like these are coming from the right. So I posted like what in the Kirk is this? And all of a sudden, like hundreds of comments out of nowhere, keep his name out of your whole mouth. Like literally ripping into me. Creating like AI, terrible AI depictions of me. Let's just put it that way. Yes. They definitely, that definitely breached some TOS on X, I'm sure. But yeah, that was my first experience with that. And then I had a friend who was like, I think you actually got bothered. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. So and once you start live streaming more, sometimes they'll bot the stream, you know, they'll start spamming the chat so you can't read the chat. Wow. Wow. I thought that was happening to us once, but it turns out we were just being rumble raided by the CEO of Rumble and the CEO of Tether. Shout out to Chris. Yeah, shout out to Chris. That was awesome. Nice. That was our first time going live on Rumble and they donated like 1600 bucks. Let's go. Yeah, that's pretty cool. We're doing some live streaming now. Yeah. A little bit. So like I mentioned, I've been out in Arizona for a little bit. My fiance has been kind of traveling around the Gulf Coast and spending some time with his family. They're based kind of nearby Naples, but we are looking to settle down in Sarasota where Rumble is. And when we get there, I'm going to do like a consistent three day per week kind of schedule. Live stream to both, you know, YouTube and Rumble. We'll have to get you on clavicular stream. Eat some looks, maxing with them. Sure. It's funny. One of my longest friends in the United States that I've learned for years, like I'm on like seven, eight years now is actually like his business manager. Yes, all world. Wow. I'm going to be collaborating with one of the girls who's coming onto his network here shortly. I don't want to give too much of a spoiler, but some very interesting stories surrounding her that we're going to be going live and doing a video essay on. Okay. Yeah, I was going to say that'd be a good next investigation for you. Looks maxing. Oh, that was actually the first video that I made. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't see that one. Yeah, it was a video essay. So I do, I like going live. It's been pretty sporadic, but I do these in-depth video essays where I basically research a topic for like a week, do a big deep dive and then try to look at it from like birth angles, birth different perspectives. Yeah, actually, sorry, it wasn't my first video. It was, I think, my third video essay that I did. Okay. Yeah, the first one was on APAC vs. America First. The second one was on the Bondi Beach shooting in Australia, which I believe to be a false flag. Yeah, at this point I do too. Yeah, yeah. A guy actually in Australia was just, he got a one year sentence actually for antisemitism. What? Yeah. For talking about it? Yes, on Australia Day, I think he said instead of like our greatest ally, their our greatest enemy, something along those lines. Australia. Oh, it has been. It has been. You know, people. I was just there. That's crazy. You were? Yeah, for my honeymoon. That's crazy. Yeah, people ask why I'm America First. It's like this truly is the country, the only country in the world from my perspective that is the last bastion of freedom. Yeah. For America Falls, everything else is fully done. Like Australia, the UK, all these places are already cooked, but like they'll be beyond cooked. They'll be like well done, like burnt to a crisp by that point, honestly. That's scary. Yeah, very particular where I travel now, because certain countries you tweet something, you get arrested. Yeah. I know people that have landed in certain places and stuff they said on the podcast gets brought up in the interrogation room. That's surreal. But Taka Kallson, right? Trying to leave. Yeah, what are your thoughts on that? Because I saw him mix things on the, there was a video of him hugging someone. I don't know if you saw that, but. No, the whole, but what, from my understanding, he went out there for the interview with Haka Bee. Yeah. And the conversation was interesting. I mean, Haka Bee responded in a way that you would expect him to respond to a lot of things. I think Taka definitely had a few gotcha moments when it came to Netanyahu and his lineage and what they would technically define as a Jewish or an Israeli person. I think he made some interesting points there. But the political persecution of him then being detained at the airport for a period of time so they could lecture him, interrogate him about why he was there. It's like, I'm here for an interview, dude. What do you think this is? But you're right, it's scary. Like there's only so many places in the world that truly have free speech. The UK has locked up, I believe it's 1200 people now for posts. And in Australia now it's becoming more and more frequent. That's why I definitely think without a shadow of a doubt, the Bondi shooting was a false flag. They use that to push these antisemitism laws. I really hope the US doesn't get to that point. Yeah, I mean. They're locked up. Yeah, they were already saying that they're looking to revoke visas and things like this from people who are legally in the US for speaking out. So it can be, it's all a bit scary. But yeah, hopefully it doesn't progress fully to that stage. Yeah, I feel like censorship's the first step and that can get to that. For sure. Digital IDs as well. That's scary. Australia is implementing a digital ID. UK is implementing a digital ID. And these are just mechanisms to check on the quote unquote antisemitism and things like this. Yeah. Yeah, that's scary. Digital IDs, digital dollar they're talking about. Yeah, CBDCs and digital IDs. Once those two things kind of form together, you have the perfect system that underpins a social credit school, which is exactly what Communist China does. Holy crosser. Like literally America is the last free country. And you know, we have our constitution, we have the rights here, the right to free speech, the right to bear arms. These are things that are meant to protect against these tyrannies from being enacted here. So people just need to consistently assert their rights. They need to know their rights and they need to not cower when they try to take them away from us. Absolutely. Yeah, I know people freak out about mass surveillance, but I think it's already here. You saw with the Ring Doorbell incident the other week. Oh, you didn't see that? They had some footage of some crime being committed on a Ring Doorbell and they were able to access the person's ring and get the footage. And then I think without their permission. Yeah, I think that person got in trouble. Gang. I mean, even when you go to the airport and they're like, you know, you hand over your boarding pass and they also take your picture. Yeah. It's like, why? You guys literally have like a hundred cameras. Yeah, well, there's a hundred cameras right there, right? Makes no sense. Why do you need it? Honestly, even the real ID thing that they're trying to do at the airport is kind of like a first step towards a digital ID. I know that people like Thomas Massie have been very outspoken about it, about trying to prevent it from being enacted. They couldn't get all the states to agree with it, which is why they kept pushing it back. Pretty much since I've been in the states, when I go to the airport, you see the signs that are like digital ID is not digital ID. Sorry, real ID is here. You need to have your real ID. Otherwise, you won't be able to travel by X date and then it kept getting pushed back to push back to push back. Because no one was getting it. Well, yeah, exactly because the states were refusing to comply with it because in a lot of ways it isn't fully constitutional. Yeah. Yeah, it was so annoying. They were shoving that down our throat. And I didn't even need for it. Yeah. Well, once that becomes fully enacted, then that's essentially kind of like a trial run for a real digital ID. Like the ones that they're enforcing in Australia and the UK. And they always start off by saying, like, oh, it's, you know, it's not mandatory. It's up to you. It's completely voluntary. And then they'll slowly start making it mandatory first in the private sector and then eventually it moves to the public sector as well. Like in Australia, if you're a business owner and you don't have a digital ID, you'll be fined to the tunes of tens, potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. Well, in the UK, Kya Stammer said that if you don't have a digital ID that you won't be able to work without it by 2029, I believe. Holy crap. So yeah, there's a huge push towards all of that right now. So this next election is really important, then? Absolutely. For sure. Wow. I mean, all over the world, the elections are really important. But again, America is, they set the standard. So if America starts being subservient and they start accepting these more dystopian technologies and policies, then it's going to be even easier for these other countries. They won't even need to say in 2029, you know, we're going to implement this. It'll be like, no, it's right here right now. Right. Because they'll follow suit with the United States. So we need to try to kick that can down the road for as long as possible. And if we can just say no altogether, prevent it from even starting up, because that's it's not just for the freedom of the people in America, but the freedom of the West. Oh, well, Fuentes is too young to run right now. So where are you going to be keeping an eye on? Um, I know it's early, but it's not, we don't really have any good options. Don't like Rubio. Don't like dance. Um, I would say, Massey, Massey would run. Yeah. I can't think of many good options to be honest. Yeah. And there's even things about Massey that I don't, I'm not a hundred percent on board with. Well, everyone at that level is compromised in a certain way. Yeah. I mean, he seems to have done a really good job in recent times. Like he, he reads every single bill he did push through the Epstein files transparency act. And it's something that we didn't think that we would be able to see at all. And he got that push through, which was pretty impressive, but kind of messed up on the Epstein thing. Honestly, I don't know what to think anymore. I just did a deeper dive and my brain is. There's so many falls. Yeah. And it's not just that. It's, um, you know, when you look into a lot of the people who are purported to be victims, um, you know, you have, uh, Robson, her first names escaping me right now, the woman who was on the Super Bowl commercial. She was up at Capitol Hill. Um, people like Virginia, Jufre. They actually were the ones who were doing a lot of the trafficking. This is all available in the court transcripts. They recruited the majority of the girls that were actually brought to Epstein Island. Many of them who were underage. And this is a matter of fact. It's a matter of court record, but that's not really the narrative that people are sharing right now because it's not in alignment with this. Broader or grandiose claim that, you know, he was running this, um, Mossad funded CIA funded blackmail ring to blackmail all of the politicians. It's like when you start talking about the girls who were victims in there, being some of the people who actually cause many of these young women to suffer, who actually brought them onto the island. And grant, like, you know, people always call you like a victim blamer and a victim shamer. I don't want to do that. I'm sure there was a level of like psychological turmoil that they were dealing with, maybe some stock room syndrome. You don't know what mental tactics were deployed on them in order to make them recruit these other girls. But the fact of the matter is they did most of the recruiting. The people who are seen as the poster victims for Epstein actually recruited the majority of the women who were 14, 16, 17. The actual underage girls gave them makeup, gave them clothes to make them appear older, told them to tell Epstein that they were over the age of 18. Wow. Polygraph tests can be faked. They're not 100% accurate, but Epstein did take a polygraph test that said he believed that the girls were over the age of 18 and he passed it. Yeah. This is all available in the original court documents. The like original ones before he, before he died, died. Okay. He's in. What do you think about that? Did you see the prostate thing? I heard about that one. I saw the Fortnite thing. I saw the Israel thing. Well, the prostate thing is the only thing that I really believe because, you know, a lot of the pictures, they could be AI. It's so hard to tell what's real and not to know when it comes to AI. And then same as the Fortnite thing, I'm not sure. I think someone just figured out his password and then trolled everyone and logged in from Israel. Probably, yeah. That's what I heard. But in the autopsy, it said that he had, what was the exact quote? I think they said an unremarkable prostate or something. They made some reference for his prostate, right? Epstein is on record saying that he had his prostate removed. So that's why there is emails that came out that are confirmed emails from him saying that he needed to take more testosterone. He needed to acquire more testosterone because he had his prostate removed. But in the autopsy report, they commented on his prostate. So does he have a prostate or does he not have a prostate? And so to me, that's the most compelling possible piece of evidence as to he may still be alive. I haven't really seen anything where I'm like, OK, this could be real. Like everything is questionable when it comes to the age of, you know, AI. But this one thing, like it's definitely on the autopsy report that he does have one and it's definitely in the emails that he himself said that he had it removed. Also, his brother has gone on multiple shows and said he never got to see the body. And he's like really weirded out by it. Yeah, there's that as well. His own family couldn't see the body. Yeah. Yeah. I think he actually went on the PPD podcast. He had to have his face blurred out. I don't know if he does that in every podcast that he does. Now he doesn't, but I know he used to. Yeah, that's crazy. So it's questionable for sure. I don't know whether he's alive or dead. Maybe we'll never know with that one. But I think the the whole thing. It's definitely you need to hold up the evidence with a little bit more scrutiny that we live in a world of like clickbait and engagement farming where people have incentives to put out the most sensational things in order to drive revenue, in order to drive clicks. Yeah. And again, people don't want to be called a victim blamer or a victim shamer. But when you take a further look into some of these things, you see that the people who are propped up as heroes are actually some of the conspirators or maybe not conspirators, but they were used to actually victimize other people. Yeah. I mean, that's what happened to Steve Bannon, right? He kind of is seen as someone that betrayed Trump. Now, after what he got exposed for in the files. Yeah. A lot of people thought he was a hero. All right, same with Bill Gates. I grew up idolizing Bill Gates, wanted to become rich and successful like him. Yeah. Discussed about what I'm seeing about him. Yeah. Crazy. It is crazy. It is crazy. The other thing is, though, a lot of the reports about other people, they've come from like anonymous tips as well. Like a lot of them, they aren't really trait. Like even the Prince Andrew thing, right? And actually, I should probably correct the record on this because I spoke out about this at the rally with Fishback. That, you know, I was so happy that he was arrested. How come there's justice coming from the UK, but no justice here in the United States? Yeah. I didn't know at the time. I just found that out the same day. I hadn't looked into it, done any further research. He wasn't arrested for anything to do with sexual impropriety. It had nothing to do with his like sexual abuse in the Epstein files whatsoever. I just assumed it was. No, everyone did. And nobody is actually putting out like a real statement with what it actually is because it's not a sensational headline, because it's not clickable. It's not searchable. It's not what people like people want the confirmation bias of the narrative that they already believe. True. He was arrested for releasing trade secrets, actually. And so it was financial impropriety, not sexual impropriety. But people are like justice for Virginia Gruffray. You know, but it had nothing to do with any of her, you know, alleged claims about him. It had nothing to do with any of that. It was all tied to the financial crimes, actually. That's where governments draw the line, I guess, when you're revealing secrets. But you can. The kids do whatever else you want. Apparently. Dr. Kiriakou exposed this to former CIA. Yeah. Crazy. At least some CEOs are stepping down, I noticed. Yeah. In United States companies, a couple big ones stepped down. Yeah, I'm glad that there has at least been some kind of social shame surrounding these things, even if there aren't any types of arrests. I think for sure there's a bunch in there that warrants further investigation. I just don't think people should be blindly believing narratives that come from like anonymous tips or from a lot of fake emails and fake. Like, have you noticed all the fake files that came out? Like people are literally sharing things like, oh, they eat people and it's literally a screenshot from a horror movie from the 60s. So of a person up on a table, like, kind of bent down like a chicken, like all cooked and burned. It's like, no, that's not even real. That's from a horror movie in the 60s. So I think that there is, honestly, almost being a deliberate push to put people's brains into overdrive about all of this stuff to the point where they think it's so gory and so gruesome and so terrible that they're actually unwilling to go through and look through the real files because they're automatically kind of creating a filtration process where it's like all of these people that don't have a strong enough stomach to be able to go through it by releasing a lot of fake files, by pushing a lot of fake narratives. That's what I wonder because they strategically released three million. So I wonder why didn't they release all of them? Just a little test, right? Psyop, see how people react. Who knows if they'll ever release the rest? Yeah, I think that there was probably, even to an extent, some like marching orders given to the establishment right saying that, you know, come out and just say this is all about a satanic, cannibalistic ring, you know, versus what it could be, what I believe it could be, which is possibly a Mossad operation or CIA operation, Black Mill operation. Yes, doesn't mean they weren't real victims or absolutely were. Doesn't mean it's not a sensational story. It absolutely is. Doesn't mean that Epstein isn't a creep. He absolutely is. But I think that there's a push to make it seem a lot more sensational than what it is. That I agree. Yeah, but a lot of credible people are taking the Mossad angle lately. Yeah, that seems to be the number one theory. Yeah, there was a lot in the emails about CIA and about Mossad and CIA Mossad. It's essentially one of the same. Let's be honest. My opinion nowadays. Yeah. What's next to you, though? What's the main focus from here? Um, just doing a little bit more of this, I would say, you know, I definitely, I'd never really had the opportunity to go out and talk to more people and do more collaborations because was working a nine to six job and then have like a brief two hour filming window per week to actually make content. So I didn't really get the chance to collaborate. Didn't really get the chance to travel. So that's a big focus, but I'm also getting married here very soon. Yes. And our babies, babies as soon as possible. Yeah. Kind of getting a little bit on the older side. So, you know, we want to have at least two to three. I'm the same way. Two to three. Yeah. Well, when I first met my fiance and he's a little bit younger than me. And when I first met him, he, when we were friends, even he would always say like, I want like eight kids, nine kids. And then we started dating and I'm like, you realize that when we get married, like I can't give you eight, nine kids, right? Like I'm kind of old. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, exactly. Unless I like, like what's that woman who would like eight like all at once. The old couple. Yeah. Right. So yeah, the goal is we definitely get married probably next month, actually. Nice. We're not even going to do the whole big wedding party thing or anything like that. We're just going to probably elope and just start our lives as soon as possible. Yeah. Use that money to just, you know, have kids set up a life, really plant some roots. Sarasota for a year for sure, for collaborations. And then after that, we're traveling more and doing more content and really, you know, more than anything, just like being mission focused. Like we're on a, we're on a mission to collaborate with people and to really spread a message that, you know, Christ first above everything, but then America first, when it comes to patriotism and, you know, giving back to this nation that's given so much to all the people who live here, you know, whether they were born here or whether they call this place home after living 10 years for people like myself. And it's unfortunately a counter narrative to everything that culture is telling us. You know, they don't want you to have kids. They don't want you to talk about Jesus. They don't want you to talk about America first and all of the forces, both political and spiritual, that oppose those things. So we're putting that at the center of absolutely everything that we do. Going to try to have some babies and touch some grass as much as possible between all of that. Cause I think we will forget that like all this stuff isn't real life, right? Like, like it is. Yeah, but there are a lot of echo chambers and a lot of people are so terminally online. So important to just get out there and touch some grass. So whatever like political content I consume, I try to do like an equal amount in like, you know, Bible personal development, like putting good information into my brain to kind of counteract it because otherwise. Yeah, you have to be so intentional about doing that because you weren't naturally that is an alley, like natural proclivity as human beings, you know, when I scroll on Twitter a little too long, I got a pop and audio book. Yeah, exactly. Activity or not. You literally like spiritually, it's important like energetically, it's important. Like you really start to feel the weight of that. And then it bleeds into every single aspect of your life. So absolutely. Yeah, we'll link your YouTube below your rumble and all your other links. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me. Check her out guys. I'll see you next time. 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