Gym Toast Laundry with Snooki: Thursday, December 11th, 2025

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Okay, so I guess I was watching you. So you were 7. But I was watching you, I guess, like in high school. Wait, no, you were in 7. I was so stupid. Wait, I was watching you in high school. Yeah, because I was 21 when I did the show. Wow, that's so crazy. Like, I just turned 21. That's why I was insane. You guys had to be of legal drinking age, yeah? Like, that was a prerequisite for getting cast on the show? Yeah, so you had to be 21. Yeah. So I know we share mutual bestie, Joey, and I've kind of been like pestering Joey to get you on the toast, ever since. I know. I'm so sorry. I've been so busy. No, no, no. You're such a busy woman. You're a mom of three, a mother to all. So the timing could not have been better. I have to show you a couple of things, because before we get into the episode, I need you to know that you are sitting down with a super fan, like an actual lifelong fan, okay? I have two pieces of proof to just prove my- You dressed as me for Halloween. I did not dress as you for Halloween. I dressed as you for Purim, which is Jewish Halloween. Oh. I have a photo. Hot. Yes. How old are you there? I was probably like the 10th grade, so 2010. You killed it. Thank you. Then I also ran for student government on a campaign that was very snookie themed. I did not win, which was disgraceful. Nobody in my school could appreciate it. It's a CO, Claudia Oshre, for GEO, which was like the government organization. GTL for senior vice president for SVP. Do you want tanning boots in the locker rooms? Do you want pickles in the salad bar? Wait next, want next Shabbaton to be at the Jersey Shore? I went to a Jewish school. Vote Oshre. I have been obsessed with you. And you didn't win? Can you believe? That's insane. Uncultured swine. They didn't appreciate it. It's rude. Do you feel like you weren't appreciated in your own time? No, I feel like I was. I mean- I definitely feel like I was judged a lot for who I was, but like, I feel like I got more love than I did hate. Yeah. You know what I mean? I want to walk through, like literally since birth, your whole journey. Because to me, you are so interesting. First of all, you were adopted. Adopted. Yes. And you grew up in Poughkeepsie? Well, I grew up in Marlboro. Okay. But it's such a small town in upstate New York that I said Poughkeepsie because that's like the biggest- Oh, like the nearest- Everyone knows Poughkeepsie, yeah. Oh, that's so interesting. Yeah. But I was across the bridge in a little town called Marlboro. Oh, how interesting. I grew up on an apple orchard. You're kidding. Yeah. And I like rode four-wheelers. I was like a tomboy. You're kidding. I swear. And so how did you like spend your time as a kid? Well, doing the four-wheelers. I did Girl Scouts. I did competitive gymnastics for 13 years. Well, you're now also like a big cheer mom, so- Yeah. So, yeah, I was busy with like gymnastics and four-wheeling and all the things. Wow, that's so not what I see for you. I know. And when we watched your audition tape, that also was not the energy that was given. Because after high school, I like I started to like the Italian like Jersey boys and I was like, I feel like I don't belong here. Like everyone's listening to country music and doing their own thing and I want house music and I want to go out and go to the clubs and my friends wanted to like bar hot more. So it was like, I don't belong here anymore. Wow. So I always knew that I was going to move to Jersey. And what part of Jersey did you move to first? Well, no one means Gianni started dating. I basically just moved into his house. Wow. Like right away. So East Hanover. Okay. So you are, what were you like as a kid? Because when you bust onto the scene, when you were 21 on Jersey Shore, you had a personality like I've never seen. Like you were just oozing with personality. What were you like as a kid? And like, do you feel like you were understood as a kid? As a kid, I was, I was definitely crazy and outgoing, but I was super shy at first. Like if I, if I didn't know you, if I was like around people I didn't know or an uncomfortable situation, I was shy and everyone thought I was like a bitch. I was like, no, I'm just shy. Like I don't know how to start a conversation. But then once I get cozy, then the snooki comes out. Do you feel like you still have that shyness when you got cast on the show or by then you had totally shed it? No, I feel like I shed it. Yeah. I feel like I grew into my own and I feel like if I did have any of the shyness, it definitely went away because I was like thrown into a crazy situation. Right. And everyone was in the same sort of situation as you did. Anybody know each other? Cryer? Yeah. Wait, so I was so annoyed because I, so I had like a lot of friends that tried out. Oh. How did you even hear about it? MySpace? No, no. So I saw an ad on Facebook and it was like calling all Guido's Guidats. And I was like, that was the time where I was like, I need to move to Jersey. This is not me anymore. So then I tried out for that, but a lot of my friends at Poughkeepsie were trying out. And I was like, oh my God, you're definitely going to make it. I knew Dina from MySpace. Oh, you're kidding. And then her were like, Besties on MySpace. Had you ever met in real life? No. But like we talked so much online that we were like Bestie Penpals that I knew once I met her was going to be awkward. So I was really looking forward to seeing her in the house when I walked in. So when I walked in, I didn't see any of them and I'm like, where the fuck is everyone? And I was so annoyed. Did any of the other people know each other from home or internet or anything? Yeah. Mike knew, Mike knew of Sam. He used to date Angelina and then Ange and Vinnie knew each other because they both grew up on Staten Island. So a lot of what I knew. So I watched the show as it was live. I was obsessed with it along with everybody else. I've also recently rewatched it many, many times and it is the type of show that gets better over time and it really holds up really well. And I became really obsessed with like what was going on behind the scenes because I read Mike's book, which was an amazing memoir. Obviously, his story is so different with his addiction and everything. Totally. Would you ever write a book? I know you've written a fictional book. Yeah. So I wrote a short thing and then I did Confessions of Agüita. So that was like a guide on how to be Agüita. No, but then I did Baby Bumps. So that was kind of like Party Girl turning into motherhood, like that transition. That was like hard, but not really hard. You know what I mean? I have a lot of questions for you about that too. Yeah. So I did a couple of books about like parenting and stuff, but I never did like a full memoir. You know, I never did that. I feel like people would love it. I thought Mike's book was amazing, especially because it was such an interesting time. You guys were very much like on the cusp of reality TV now is very cool. Everybody does it. Kardashians have a show. But for a while it was considered like kind of taboo and you guys got so famous and I'm sure you were like on red carpets at events and I'm really curious like what, how did people receive you in the industry like other celebrities? Oh, they thought we were insane. They were like, they don't belong here. I remember I went to the Grammys and I still wore my fur coat and I had a BB dress on. Like I thought it was cool, but I didn't know like how to act or like how to dress. So no, we didn't, we didn't fit in and everyone thought we were idiots. But you guys, which I love, I don't care. Yeah, of course. And the cool thing about you guys is like you got so famous so quickly, so wealthy so quickly. And I think a lot of people would change who they are, how they dress, how they talk, everything about them. And you guys all look the same. You act the same, you dress the same. It's really, it's very cool to see not, you're not like, you know, changing so, so drastically from, from the gal that got famous. I think it's from our parents and how we were raised, like the Italian culture and just, you know, working for what you have and appreciating what you have. You know, my parents definitely taught me that. And my dad helped me with all the money because I definitely would have spent it all. Like I was getting like Gucci bags. Like I could never afford that. I always had $20 for my name. Every single week I would lose gas in my car. My dad would have to come pick me up. Like I literally had no money. So my dad definitely helped me with, you know, putting it where it needs to be and saving. So thank God for my dad. No, of course, because you go from being someone who like you said $20 in your account at all times. Yeah. To enormous wealth. Can you walk me through at what point in the show you guys started? Because at first it was like a sort of experimental show. You all got cast. You were excited to be there. I'm sure you were happy getting whatever. How much you get paid the first season? We didn't get paid anything. So I literally just went for the experience because I always said I wanted to be on a reality show. And but I was thinking more of like real world, like 15 minutes of fame and then go back to my life and just say that I did it. You know, so I wasn't expecting it to like be a career in life changing, which I'm so grateful for. Of course. Thank you. But no, I just went for the first season just to stay at the shore house for free because I knew I wasn't paying for the shore house. I'm cracking. But you just wanted to like spend your summer there, right? Right. And I just had broken up with my boyfriend. So I was like miserable. I just wanted to go and have a good time, meet new people and do reality like I always wanted to. So yeah, we didn't get paid from MTV or anything, but the shore store, Danny would give us $200 every single Friday to go out and like party. And I'm like, I've never had $200. And that's why when I was watching the show, I'm like, I wonder why they're going to this job. Like you don't really have to, especially I think later on in the seasons when you guys are making a lot of money or like why the hell am I going to make T-shirts at the shore store. But in the beginning, like you really needed to show up just to like make money. No, that was literally our job. That's so crazy. Yeah. And then the first season right out of the gate, like everyone's obsessed with it. It is the funniest, greatest thing. It's a real look into the subculture, which a lot of people I'm from New York. So like I was familiar with the shore, but people who don't live in this area, like have no idea what it's like. Yeah, they were like, who are these creatures? Yeah. Why are they dressed like that? Why are they talking like that? And you had your own language. You created all these words, grilled juice head. Like it was so fun and it was so funny and it was so different than anything that was on TV at the time. And you just blew up overnight and you started making money. I'm sure from like, you know, appearances and brand deals. What was the first big thing you bought? I want to say cars. So I think I got, because my car was breaking down, remember first season? Right. Yeah. I had a 94 Accord and I loved it. It was like my best thing, but it wasn't working and I need a new car. So what did I get? Oh, I got a stick BMW because I always want to drive stick. Well, that's what's funny. But I bought it not knowing how to drive stick. When you see season two, everybody's driving up. They're driving up in like insanely nicer cars than they were the season before. Yes. So I bought, I bought me a car and then I bought my parents a car. And then I paid off my mom's or my grandmother's mortgage. Shut up. Was that the best feeling ever? Yes. She was my everything. So I was like, I need to do everything for you because you're too old and yeah. Before, before the show, you're very much a hustler. We're in your store right now and I asked you, I thought you had two locations, you have four. You have not stopped working since you became a mom. You're such a hustler. Like where do you get that from? Cause I think a lot of people in your situation wouldn't. You probably make like mailbox money from various shows and things and you could, but you really don't stop. Yeah. That's why I'm so grateful that you came to my store today. And let me tell you guys, the store is insanely cute. Thank you. I've never been here before. I've seen it on Instagram. So this is my first location in Madison, New Jersey. I had like a smaller location, but we moved here. So this is like the hub of everything where I have everything. But no, I'm saying thank you for coming here because I've been so busy with filming the show. I just got back from a cheer competition. I'm literally dying inside from being run down and I appreciate you being here. No, it's my pleasure to see like this actual cultural landmark. Yeah. You, so yeah, you do a lot, but you also have three kids and your journey to becoming a mom was I think really unexpected. And I'm curious how the group and then the network, cause then you did have subsequent shows, but the show changed when you became a mom. Cause you really were, I think if somebody else had gotten pregnant, it might not have affected the show in such a big way, but you were really like the heart and soul of the group. I think you were a fan favorite and it was kind of an unexpected life change when you got pregnant for the audience. Well, it definitely wasn't planned, but I'm grateful that it happened obviously because Lorenzo is 13 now. It's crazy. I know he's a teenager now and oh, he's just my everything and you really changed my life for the better because I feel like if I didn't have him, like with me and Gianni, like end up getting married and be together or would like something happen or would I be parting and like too hard and something went wrong? Like I never dabbled in the drugs, but like I was going hard partying and like doing these club appearances, like traveling, like what would something have happened? You know what I mean? Right. So I think it happened at the best time. Yeah, of course. And that's the crazy thing about the show. I don't remember thinking it when I was watching it, but now when I rewatch it as a grown person, I'm like, that's insane hours you guys were doing. You were really partying till four or five, six in the morning and then literally sleeping for two hours and going to work. That's how I met Joey. Oh, you're kidding. Yes. Where? So I, I think I was flying back from Vegas and I literally got zero sleep and I walked in still drunk at 7 a.m. and he said I like ran in and I smelled like alcohol and cigarettes and I just sat in the chair and I'm like, just make me pretty. And then I brought vodka and I was like, can we just do a shot because I'm going to, I'm going to end up, yeah, getting sick. And he was like, yeah, let's do it. What like appearance were you doing? What were you getting ready for? It was like a Mac makeup competition. Oh, right. Because Joey was a Mac makeup artist. Exactly. That's so funny. So that's how I met Joey and that's when I was like, that's when the hours were crazy and I was going nuts. Yeah. And so I know because of Mike's book that he was like on his own journey in terms of drugs, but it's hard to watch a show and imagine was nobody doing drugs. Like how, how really were you guys staying up so late and filming a full TV show and then working at the short store and then partying the next night doing it all over again? Very rarely did one of you, did one of you stay back and do nothing? I think it's cause we were young and we could just bounce back. I know I can't do that anymore. Right, of course. But like if me and Dina went hard for a couple of days, they would let us sleep till like five PM. Okay. So like you see everyone doing GTL like Paul, he didn't really drink Vinny didn't really drink. Obviously Mike like did his thing, but Mike wasn't really a drinker. Right. He was on other things. Right. Pills. And then Jenny, Jenny would drink sometimes here and there and Sam. So I think it was really me and Dina. That was like going really crazy with drinking. You also really carried the show like. And the meatballs were nuts. The meatballs were everything. So they would, they would let us sleep till like five PM. But we just didn't see that. You didn't see it. So you saw everybody else go to work, do their thing, GTL. And then you would just see us wake up and start over again. When you would finish wrapping a season, how do you recover from that physically? Like what do you do? Back in the day? Yeah. In the day, I would just go home, sleep for a week and then you would be going on these club appearances. Got it. So it really never stopped. It was never stopping. Did a part of you like find relief in it ending? No, no, because I loved it so much and I'm like, what's going to happen now? So when I got pregnant with Lorenzo and then that was the last season of Jersey Shore, I was like, okay, like what are we going to do now? And then network was like, we want to see you become mom. Let's do Snooki and JWoww. Okay. We need to talk about Snooki and JWoww. You guys living in the converted firehouse. That was not real. I can't. You were pregnant or had you given birth yet during that show? No, I was, I think eight, nine months pregnant. Insane. And I was actually living there. I was going to say, was Jenny also? Yes. You guys were fully living there with your partners? No, no, no. It was just me and her. Insane. I wanted to die. Because I was like, this is my first time giving birth and I want to be with my man. Of course. So I'm like leaving the, I'm leaving the firehouse with Jenny to go meet him at a doctor's appointment. And then I go back to the house with Jenny and he goes home. So what is this? I'm like, this is not how I, I want to experience my first pregnancy. Was it a well paying gig that show? Well, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it was fine. You were providing for your family. Yeah, it was fine. So then obviously after I gave birth, then we moved into like more of a, like a family style theme. So like I was with Gianni and I felt cozy and Jenny was with her family. So I like how that played out. But yeah, the first season was hard. It's very cool that you and Jenny ended up and I know, you know, Roger and Jenny are no longer, but that's the father of her children. They were together for a really long time. People from the show, characters, we know you really ended up having like a happily ever after, which you don't see a lot. How did you meet Gianni? At Karma. Of course. Remember? I called him Mario brother and I was like, he'll do. And then I was like, oh, never see him again. And then I was like, wait, I actually liked him and he was really cute. And then Ron was like, you should really call him when you get out of here. And I was like, Ron, you know what? You're right. I was like, I'll try because I always, you know, went down the shore to find love. I wanted to find my hopeless and have babies. Like that was the goal for me. And you did it. Yeah. So I was like, I'm just going to call him and we'll see what happens. How old were you in your first pregnancy? 24. Wow. So, and you started the show at 21. How many seasons were there? There was six total. But it wasn't six years because you guys were Florence and you like did two seasons. It was a lot. Yeah. That's insane. I think we did two seasons a year. Does that make sense? Yeah. And you guys were also not only doing Jersey, you did Miami, you did Florence, which was just Miami, I think was the longest season. And I ended up having to like go to the hospital and get an IV. Oh, wow. So I'm like, I can't drink like this anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Did you like filming outside of Jersey, like in Miami in Florence? I did. Yeah. But I didn't like how long it was. It was like a month and a half. Yeah. I like vacations where it's like a week. Of course. But like a month and then you're filming the show and you're doing it 24 seven. It's a lot. What ever happened to Ryder? Do I still talk? Ryder, no. But I don't have like bad blood with her. I just feel like, you know, our lives were very different. Like I was, you know, going to have a baby and my life was going to change and she was, she was kind of like my party friend. Like we had fun together. If I were to like go to a bar, I'm calling her. I'm like, let's go have a good time. So I feel like obviously she wasn't pregnant. She wasn't ready to do all that. So we kind of just drifted apart. But no bad blood. No, of course. That was an iconic friendship. You're sort of a part of many iconic duos. You and Jenny, you and Dina, you and Joey. Yeah. She meet Joey, who is a fan favorite here at the toast. I don't even know how I met him. I know. I instantly. I got jealous at first. I'm like, why are you hanging out with this girl so much? That's such a relatable. Thank you for being honest about that. I feel that way too. Like when somebody I know, like his friends with somebody who's like kind of similar to me, like girl, get out of here. Yeah. So I appreciate you sharing your best friend. And I appreciate Joey sharing his best friend. So you meet at an event and he's really become a part of the Jersey Shore family. I started as a kid. He wasn't on the original show, but he hangs out with you guys all the time. He told us that you guys call him digital talent. Yeah. Or he's B-roll. Why B-roll? Because he's just always in the background. And I know he wants to be the star. And I really try and push him. I'm like, can I bring Joey? Can I bring Joey? And they're like, no, because, you know, Gianni hates filming and everyone brings our spouse. So I'm like, well, can I bring my gay husband then? And yeah, I really try and push him to be in the limelight. But no. But he'll get there. Yeah. Today's episode of the toast is brought to you by Eero. Eero delivers Wi-Fi that just works. 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Do you like having them on TV? You mean? Yeah. And then also what you do and say on TV. I mean, as a mom, I try and be better on TV. But, you know, sometimes the wine's flowing. Of course. And me and Dina will be meatballs still sometimes. But when it comes to the kids on TV, like I'll ask them, I'll be like, do you guys want to do this scene? Do you want to be, you know, on this with me? Lawrence was like, no, I hate it. So I'm like, fine, I'm not going to push you. Giovanna, she's iffy. Sometimes she's like, yes or no. And then Angelo, he's six. So I'm like, do you want to do this, honey? And he's like, yeah. And then he's grabbing the camera and being fun. So I'm asking for a consent now. Yeah. And I'm not going to push them to do something they don't want to do. I mean, obviously, I would love for my entire family to be a part of it. It's fun to watch. And it's also fun to watch on social media, like be so normal in so many ways. I think a lot of people relate to like you're kind of like this zealous cheer mom. You travel all over with your daughter. Yeah, nonstop. Nonstop. You're, you know, peeing your pants, you're at cheer competition, screaming your head off. I pee my pants. I was like, I need to go to the hotel and change my underwear because I'm going to get an infection. So you actually I literally left and changed. Yes. What do the other moms make of you? The moms at school? Like, I feel like it would be so fun if like, Snoke, he was like a mom in my class. Well, I feel like because everybody knows Gianni in the town, that it's just like, oh, this is Gianni's wife because he grew up there. So like Gianni's more of like the famous one because, you know, his family does wrestling and all of that. Yeah. So it's kind of like Gianni first, then me, like, oh, cool. He would marry, you know, someone famous like that. So it's not that crazy. And he grew up with all the all the parents. So it's like all of his friends. Oh, that's nice. The cheer moms are a different story, but they treat me normal, which is nice. Like, I want to be treated normal. I don't want like any special treatment. Like I'm just a mom like you. Like, let's just be normal. And so you did gymnastics or cheer growing up? I did competitive gymnastics for 13 years. And then it just it's a lot. It's a lot. It takes up a lot of your time. And I just I wasn't in love with it anymore. So I was like, I want to do something similar. And then I started cheer and cheer was fun. I feel like you could have ended up being like an Olympic gymnast. You are and it's very rare for me to like notice someone's height because nobody is shorter than me. When I gave you a hug, I was shook. You are really a meatball. A meatball. You're four eight. Four eight. That's insane. Four eight. Well, I feel like I'm shrinking every single year. I'm going to be like strug a no no when I'm a grandma. I'm going to be like so small. I feel like so are you. I know I shorties. I love being short. Do you love being short? Or do you feel like did you get bullied or anything? No, I love being short, like cheer wise, like gymnastics, like being small. But like if I was I feel like I was if I was three inches taller, I would be stretched out. Mm hmm. So like because, you know, if we gain 10 pounds, it looks like we gain 50. I always think about how like I would be the perfect way if I was six feet tall. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So it's annoying in that aspect. But now I do like being short. You know, you also experience like a major weight loss in the public eye. I'm curious what that was like. You know, I got told all the time growing up that I looked like you. And then when you got really skinny, like nobody said that to me ever again. And your weight was also there was a famous fight where you guys in Atlantic City when you said past the roles and situation said you have enough already. Something like that. Yeah. What was that like? That must have been traumatizing. I probably would never forgive him like the situation. Well, it took me a while to forgive him, but growing up, I definitely had an eating disorder. I feel like all of us have experienced that in some time. And even now it's just like, I want to eat that. But like, I don't want to gain weight. It's it's just an ongoing cycle for us women and men to. Yeah. So yeah, it's it started really bad in high school. With cheerleading, I think. Yeah, with cheerleading because I was I was a senior and these small freshman girls were coming up. I didn't want to lose my flyer spot. So I literally got down to like eighty seven pounds. A senior year. And my coach was like, this is not OK. And I was like fainting at practice. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I was just eating like two cucumbers a day. Jesus, I got so bad. And then I was like, you need to like live your life and stop freaking out. So after high school, that's when I like started going out and like partying. And I was like, you know what, I'm just going to enjoy myself. So when I started Jersey Shore, I was kind of that was like my heaviest. Was it? Yeah. And is the one. Do you feel like being on TV and being in the public eye major eating disorder? Worse. No, I just got fatter. Wow. If you see the seasons going, I just keep gaining weight. And I think it's just because I just felt OK with myself. I'm like, I was always confident in how I looked. But yeah, the cheerleading didn't help. So my weight has been fluctuating for years. Your whole life. Yeah. Down, up and down. Yeah. I think a lot of people can relate to that. Yeah. When I just look back at your entire career, and it's actually very cool that you guys are still doing the show, you're still so close. I can't think of a comparison to like another cast that still really loves one another. There's not somebody who's on the outs. There's not somebody we don't talk to. Like you're all pretty much like really family. And I think that reads and when you guys got back together for the first reunion show, it was it was a cultural reset. Like it was so it was at 2019. I guess it was something I don't think people thought about. And then when we did it, we were like, oh, my God, I can't believe we've not had these people on our TV for so many years. You guys were really made for it. And now the show is very different and you do a lot of like more personal home stuff and you guys go to each other's weddings and you're all having babies. And it's really fun to see. Do you think it will will you get to a point where you don't want to do it anymore? You think no, no, we keep saying we're going to do it until like we're in, you know, in diapers at a nursing home. Like we want to keep doing this forever. I don't know if it's going to be the same place because a lot of things are changing right now. But yeah, if we're done at this place, we're definitely going somewhere else. Like we we already have different agendas of what we're going to do and how the show is going to be. So we want to be doing this forever. You guys are really built for it. Yeah. So Mike wrote the book and a lot of the book he talks about how the money was like gone because he spent it all on drugs. And at first he was spending it all on cars. Then he had to sell the cars for drugs. Crazy. It's great. Like I could not believe I'm always recommending his book because I think a lot of people have preconceived notions about it. And it's so like deep and and it's really interesting how candid he is about the money. And there was a time when you guys renegotiated your contracts as a group. Is that right? Yeah, every single season. And you decided like no one was going to get more and no one was going to get less. We were all going to be getting the same. If you're comfortable, what was the most you ever made per episode on the original show? Well, six figures. Wow. Wow. Yeah. And your dad was like instrumental in. Yes, thank God. Yeah, because I wanted to buy all these things. Right. Oh, everything. Does he still have like any involvement in your business? No, so he used to run my business and then I was like, you know what? Like I have two kids now. Like I need to be able to do this myself. So I ended up taking over and he he felt a type of way about it. But I was like, dad, I need to be an adult. I need to do this on my own. Like I know I'm your baby always, but like I need to do this on my own. So I still have them on payroll just, you know, being my parents and helping me out. Of course. But yeah, I ended up taking everything on my own. Do you think that when your parents adopted you, they had any idea like the fireball that you were and you also recently shared on the show that you facetimed with your birth parents. Yeah. Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah. Um, so I never thought I would like reach out because I never cared. Like I always knew I was adopted. They never had to have a conversation with me. So I was like, I'm brown. You guys are white. Like we don't look alike. But I know I always said you bought me at a store. Like can you buy another one? Because I always want a brother or sister. Did you have no siblings growing up? No, so no. Oh, that's so interesting. I know. You don't give only child. Really? Yeah. Everything should be about me and I'm spoiled. Brother, I don't know why I just like made that up. Well, now I do. Well, of course. I haven't met. Um, so yeah, I never thought that I would like want to reach out or like see. But then Angelina did it on the show because she found out her dad was on her dad. Wow. Yeah. And she ended up using, uh, this genealogist who like finds people. So I was like, you know what, let me just reach out to her. And all I wanted in the beginning was to get like a binder because I wanted to see what they look like. That's what I always hated the fact that my parents didn't look like me and nobody looked like me. But then when I had my kids that kind of like filled the void. Totally. Yeah. I was like, Lorenzo looks just like me. Giovanna is my twin. Your kids look just like you. I don't see your husband. Yeah. Like I literally see you. I know. He's like, are these my kids? It's God's way of paying you back. Like for not having siblings or seeing yourself growing up. Yeah. So that kind of filled the void. But then I was like, you know, I really want to see like what my birth mom looks like if I have any siblings. So then that happened and I was like, oh my God, this is so cool. Like I kind of want to text them. So it started out with a text and then they were open to hearing from you. But they have no idea who I am still. Like in terms of like you being famous. Yeah, they have no, they don't know my name. They don't know who I am. They just know that I have a good life and thank you for giving birth to me and giving me a better life and all the things. Of course. So I think my birth mom is grateful that she knows that I'm good. Okay. Because she had no idea where I went. Right. It was a closed adoption. Where were you born? Santiago, Chile. Wow. And then your parents came to Santiago to adopt you. Yeah. They came to pick me up. That's amazing. So cute. I know. It's stuff that's so cute. Your parents were such a, such a great addition to the show and your dad sort of being this like moral compass. Every time you were in trouble, you called him famously when you got arrested. I mean, dad. They had to call your dad. I know. Walk me through that phone call. Like what kind of parent was he? Was he strict? Did you know he was going to be mad, but he was going to come anyway? Like, and what was the overall, like was he mad or was he more so just like, let me help? I knew he was going to be mad, but he wasn't going to be like pack your bags. You have to leave because he loved the experience for me. My mom was more like, just leave. This isn't good for you. So my mom was more of like, you know, the loving, like this isn't good for you or your health. Like you got to get out of there. My dad was like, what the fuck? But, you know, stay. Yes. This is fun. So it was like two different things. And I'm like, I think I'm going to listen to my dad. Yeah. So I knew he was going to be mad and hate me, but I knew he was going to be there and help me. Yeah. And also when I called him, I was still drunk. But okay. So can you walk me through? Cause my worst nightmare is going to prison. You got like thrown in the drunk tank. Yes. For how long? So I remember getting arrested. Well, it's all a blur to be honest, cause I was so drunk, but I remember going into the station and they were taking my picture and I'm like, can you do that again? Cause I hated my pose. So that's why I have two iconic. And I see you're selling some merch with your stories, by the way, for Jersey Chor-fan, a dream. Uh huh. Yeah. So I have two mug shots and I hated both of them. So I got annoyed. They wouldn't take another one. I'm like, come on. And they wouldn't delete like the other one. I was like, I know this is going to be on TMZ. Can it be Q? But they didn't care. You knew at the time, like you understood what was happening. Yeah. That you were this famous person. I'm like, this is not going to be great. I'm going to be like Lindsay Lohan on fricking the cover of everything. Um, but they were very nice to me before they threw me in the drunk tank. They let me sit down on a spinny chair and I was spinning eating donuts. And then they threw me in and I passed out for a little bit. And then the roommates came to pick me up and I thought it was the next day. I thought I was in there for 24 hours. So when I get into the car, I'm like, can we go to Denny's? I was like, I need breakfast. I'm cracking up. They were like, you've been in there for only like an hour and a half. Oh my God. Oh, so net net, it wasn't that long. No, it was so quick. And did the cops obviously like everyone in town knew you? Yeah. Yeah. So like you knew you were famous and you feel like they were a little bit nicer to you because of that? I think so. Such a kind day. I wasn't being aggressive to them. I was like being funny in there. Right. And I was like, oh my God, what's going to happen? Am I going to die? Yeah. Like is someone going to touch me? If I was a cop, I would have like loved my day at work that day, just picking you up. I'm sure it was the best day of their lives. You gave it all. Like you really did. Am I right in remembering that you have some sort of beef with Andy Cohen? Did he say something like not nice once or twice about you? Yeah, but it was more of just like, you know, is she ever going to be a housewife? Right. And he was like, no, we don't want her like something like that. And I'm like, it's fine, Andy. I don't want to come over there. Yeah, right. We're fine now. OK. OK. Yeah, we're fine. Do you find yourself holding grudges? So you'd like a grudgy person? Not really. But if you really do me dirty, like I'll just dead you. Yeah. Like I want nothing to do with you ever again. You'll never see me again. Right. I love that. Yeah. I'm a Sagittarius. When's your birthday? No, yeah, November 23rd. I was going to say September. Oh, it was just your birthday. Happy birthday. Yeah. How did you celebrate? I really did nothing. I just went out to eat with Gianni. That's so mom of three. Yeah. Well, we actually we went out to eat and then my mother-in-law took the kids. So we went to my shore house and just stayed there for the night. So fine. Of course. So it was nice. You know, I'm very much in my mom era and it's really like quite admirable that you have this very successful business. You how many months out of the year do you film? Like four months, no, five months. And you also are a full time mom. You have three kids. I watch you on Instagram. You do the cheer. You do school drop off like you. The stores. The stores. What. What would you say is the key? Now, not everyone can do it all, but you seem to be balancing it well. How what do you attribute that to? I don't know. OK. I don't know. I appreciate the answer. Everyone always asks me and I'm like, I don't know how I do it. They're like, you're so busy. And I think I'm great at multitasking and I like being busy because I feel like if I'm just sitting, I feel useless. And I feel like I'm not doing anything work wise or like helping my kids future or making money for them. You know, of course. So I like being busy, but I'm a good sleeper. So I think sleep really helps me. Like I can be in bed by seven and sleep all night. So I like sleeping. So maybe the sleeping. Did your relationship with money change a lot when you had kids? Like spending while? Just like I feel like I've always been really my sister calls me cheap, but I don't like that word. Just like I'm very conscious of money. Like I'm very financially, I like to think prudent. And when I became a mother, I let go of it a little bit because it's like, well, you know, this is what's best for me. This is what's best for my family. Like, fuck it, you know? So I feel like I had a little bit of a shift in relationship with money, but you say like, you know, you grew up without it and then you got a ton of it and then you become a mom and you think about it a little bit more. Do you find that that's been your experience? Well, yeah, I feel like I just wanted their futures to be secure. So all my kids are set for college. So God forbid something like dies down. Right. And I don't have the income that I'm having. Like they're already there. School. Yeah. So I'm making sure they're good for life. And then also like in the future, like if they need help with weddings or, you know, their kids or housing, like everything is. Wow. Good for them. Do your kids hang out a lot with your cast members, kids? Play dates, things of that nature. We try to. Yeah. But everyone's so far away. Right. Does everybody live in New Jersey? So me, Jenny, Sam, Dina and Mike. All in New Jersey. I live in Jersey. But in different parts. Scattered. Yeah. It's scattered. Got it. People don't realize how big Jersey is. I know. And then so like, how often are you guys really seeing each other? Well, I mean, now it was like every day because we're still wrapping up filming. But yeah, when we're not filming, it's very hard to get together because everyone's doing their own thing. Yeah. It's just been a. It's nice to see you guys having such longevity in your careers, because I feel like everyone I've met from Jersey Shore is super nice. We've had Mike on the show. We've had Vinny on the show. Oh my God. When I tell you, when I was watching the show, the way I was rooting for you and Vinny so hard, I was probably like making fan edits on Twitter, like pictures of you and Vinny. Oh my God, I can't. And then when I went back and rewatched it, I didn't feel so much the same. I feel like he was actually kind of like stringing you along and like pretending to be like, no offense, it's like kind of like a good guy. And he was just like kind of being a dick sometimes. Right. When you look back on like your romantic relationships on the show, do you cringe? You look back on it like, oh, so cute, lovingly. I just look at it as an experience, I guess, but like also cringe. Why did I do that? Or why was I so obsessed with the situation? Like, I don't feel like that now, obviously. So like looking back, I'm just like, oh, God, why? Yeah. So I'm glad that it ended the way. Everything worked out the way it did. Do you look back positively on your dancing with the stars journey? Such an underrated. You crushed it. Thank you. And so now hearing you have like a background in gymnastics and dance makes a lot of sense. And definitely how it was like learning the routine and like the counts and everything. Like a flip, a backhand spring. Yeah, a flip. You were incredible. Thank you. Did you love that? It was the best experience in my life. It was. And when I got voted off, I told Dina, the producer, it was like, if you do another all star season of like people that got let go too early, I was like, you have to bring me back. Yeah. Because I was like, I feel like I had so much more to give. Yes. And yeah, it's soft. The omicke dance. And that was also your red hair era. I know. How was life as a red? That was my fit era. Yes, you are tight and you're dancing for your life. I was fit and like muscle. I'm trying to get back to that. But yeah, that was like my best era. Red hair. How was life as a redhead? It's hard. Yeah. You have to keep like fixing it every two weeks. And I had like a million extensions in my hair is very thick. I had eight bundles in. Wow. So my head was like heavy. You had kids at that point. Yeah. I only had Lorenzo. And you all moved to LA to do that show. No, I kept flying back and forth. You're kidding. Yeah. That's hard. It was hard. How old was Lorenzo? Not even a year, I feel, or maybe a year. And we were just talking before that you just had your kids. Yes. I'm like obsessed. OK, so I'm obsessed with breastfeeding and I love to like talk to somebody else about it. Obsessed. Obsessed. Did you find it hard to balance work? It's hard enough like being a mom and doing others and literally anything else, but then also kind of being attached to the house every three hours, feeding, feeding, feeding. Like I love it, but it's hard. Yeah. So when I breastfed, Giovanna was the best one that I did. Lorenzo, he didn't really latch on. So I only did three months, which that really made me cry because I always said like, I'm going to breastfeed till they're, you know, one. And yeah, but like biting me. And that's when it's going to stop. So Lorenzo was only three months, but I'm glad that I did it. So we got a little bit of it. But Giovanna, she was a trooper. And we did a full year until she. Wow. Until she bit my nipple. And I literally, we were on the bed. I kind of threw her. Yeah. I was like, ow, we're done. Yeah. I'm like, we're done. And that's it. So I put the cabbage leaves on. You did? Yes. It works. How long? I don't remember. Like a couple of days. I don't remember. I feel like it did it for a week. Okay. So it really hurts. Yes, it does. It hurts so bad. Like in Gorge. And actually, I'm just, it's like, your phone listens to you so much. I was, I was, all I do is talk about how I'm going to start weeding best feeding. And then what pops up on my TikTok, a girl who lost her leg because she was weaning, got an infection, got a clog, went to the hospital, got a staff infection and lost her leg. Oh God. I know. I'm like, okay, that's going to happen to me now. Okay. Now just do the cabbage leaves. And then in the shower, express them a little. Oh yeah. So that'll give relief. You'll be fine. Yeah. You'll be fine. If I did it, you could do it. Yeah. No, it's really such a, it's such a, and then that's why whenever I meet someone who said it, I always like have a million questions from them. Because I feel like it's a sisterhood. It's really hard, especially if you are a working mom. Yeah. So I definitely, when I was working, obviously I pumped and I left a lot in the fridge. 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Do you have that yet? No, I'm sure it's in my future. Yeah, so 38 you'll probably get it. Like what you get like dimples kind of like? Yeah, but it looks like cellulite on your thighs. It's really ugly. So I'm like, I don't know what this is, but can you start doing that? So I do that and then I just cut my boobs some. I'm so jealous. But that was like 11 years ago. Got it. Because then I had two more kids, so they dropped and yeah, and I got a lift, but I didn't know that when you get a lift, you have to put a little implant in. I already had big boobs, so I was like, I don't want to do that. So they did a little. So I think hopefully this year, I'm going to redo them. Congrats. That's like what I'm looking forward to, but it's like when I'm done having kids, whatever that may be, the first stop will be the doctor's office for restaurant rotation. No. I've always had huge boobs. I've always wanted a reduction and a lift, but it was always like a goal of mine to breastfeed my kids. So I was like, you know what? I will do it once and I'll do it after all of this. And let me tell you that day can't come soon enough. Well, don't you want more kids? Yeah. So I got away. I would wait. Did you want more than three kids? Did you think you would have less? I always wanted four. Oh. My number was four because that's like my lucky number. I do everything in fours, like four stores. Yeah. Four is my number. It's like my angel number. So I always said I was going to have four kids, but then after Angelo, I was like, oh, this is a lot. Yeah. And I feel like I don't. I always felt like a soul up there. And I don't feel that anymore. So I got a dog. What kind of dog? A sheep poo. What's, Joey told me her name. Rocky. Rocky. Yeah. So Rocky is my fourth and I love him so much. And yeah, he's my everything. I love that. Like when I go away on trips, I like obviously I miss the kids, but I hug Rocky first. I'm cracking up. I know. Do you have kids who are like mommy and I'm like Rocky. That's so bad. Do you spend a lot of time away from home besides filming the show? Like you try, are you the type of mom who takes her kids everywhere? Or you always are like doing, you know, your own thing. No. So usually when I go to work, I don't bring the kids because they can't leave for sports and I don't want to take them out for school. Right. So I basically suffer and I'm alone, but I give myself three nights away. Yeah. I will not do more than three nights because then I will freak out and I know when I get home, the house is going to be a disaster. Like when mommy's not home, the place is a mess. Like it's very disorganized. Do you think of the day when one of your kids comes to you and says, I was slipping through the channels and I start to be sure, do you want them to see it? Do you not want them to see it? They have. They have. On TikTok. Oh my God. TikTok. TikTok ruined my life with that. So yeah, Lorenzo saw me drunk on the beach, like getting arrested, but he was like, what are you doing here, mom? That's so embarrassing. And I'm like Lorenzo, this is acting. Like they told me to do it and I had to pretend. So they do think that it was all pretend and I was acting. But you know, one day. You'll figure it out. Yeah. I'll be like, you know, that was before mommy. Right. That was her party era. So just don't get as crazy as mommy did. Were there any elements of the show that were scripted? Like were you ever told to do something? Was it like heavily produced? Unfortunately, no. No, you could tell that it's not. I would love to blame it on production and fakeness, but no. No. You could tell when you're watching it that like it's so real. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. That house was insane too. That outdoor area that you guys had with the Jacuzzi. The first house? Yeah. Yeah. We thought it was a mansion. I mean, whose roof was that? Because you would like walk across. So it's on that property because you go up the stairs, but it's on top of the shore store. Because Danny owns the shore store and the house. So he was like your landlord. So I guess that wasn't there and they ended up building it out right before the show. And does Danny still own the house out, right? Yeah. And you could book it on Airbnb. You could book it on Airbnb or you could do a house tour. I think he charges like $10. Okay. He's under charging. He's like a bank. Good for him. Yeah. Good for him. Such an iconic store. Such an iconic career thus far. What do you want to do next? What do you think the next five, 10 years of Snooki looks like? I don't know. I mean, I feel like I'm so busy in general, like being a mom. So I want that to be first priority. I don't want to be too crazy. But also hustling and working is like my second priority. So I mean, obviously my stores, I would love to keep going with my stores and do crazy things with it and just still love it. And do what I love. But also I have my wine. So hoping to get my wine in stores one day. Your podcaster as well. Busy with my podcast. You and Joey have a podcast. Yeah, me and Joey have to get more crazy with it. I just haven't had the time to really sit down and do it. I know. Because this is like your main thing. Yes. This is like my Jersey Shore. Right. Yeah. So we're really trying because we've had our podcast for like 10 freaking years now. We've had us for so long. You have had your podcast for so long since before when Jackie and I first got signed to a network, the network that we were at was called Audio Boom. And you guys were the biggest show on the network. And we were like so excited that we were at the same network as you guys. And we're like, oh my God, it's okay. So podcast here. So you've really been ahead of the curve for quite some time. Yeah. We just we haven't really been doing the new thing. And that's like, you know, video, video and like having a studio and guest. So I think once filming dies down a little bit, I'll have time to do that with Joey because we love our podcast. It's so fun. You guys have so many good. You have to come on. A pleasure anytime. Yeah. Let me ask you a question. You did a lot of press in your in your career. And especially at the peak of the show, you were doing a lot of interviews. I believe you were on Wendy Williams. Yes. Am I remembering correctly that there was an interview. Did you ever get like people being judgmental, not wanting to have you on like bad vibes? Well, the view every single time. The view. But I mean, are we surprised with them? Did you do the view by yourself? No, I always think I did it with the roomies. Literally, why would anybody put you on that show? Like that's not the place for you. I don't know. But we went on there a lot of times. And it wasn't. And Joey just hated us. Remember, she like cornered me in the bathroom. Yeah. And she was just nasty. So yeah, I mean, I guess it was good exposure to like do a controversial show. Right. But yeah, what would they ask you? Like, just like, do you really drink that much? And, you know, just like annoying things. It's like, it's not that serious. Right. Like we're not we're not bad people. Let me ask you another question. So much of my like worldview of you and your friends is from Mike's book. At any point in the house, did you have any idea that he was dealing with such a bad addiction? No. When did you find out everything that Mike wrote in the book? We had no idea. Oh, you're kidding. We had no idea. So we knew like he was on things because he would act insane. Yeah. Like not normal when he grabbed his head into the wall in Florence. Yeah. But like just other things that like they don't show off camera and we're just like, why are you acting like that? And we knew he wasn't drinking. So we knew it was something. But yeah, we had no idea that he was like hiding things in his shoes, like doing all the things. So it was very heartbreaking. He was taking like 60 pills in one day, like just to get by. We had no freaking idea. You had no idea. And obviously production didn't know because every time we would film, they went through every crevice of our suitcase to make sure we weren't bringing in drugs or anything. Really? Yes. Every single time. Oh, that's interesting. So he was really hiding it in there. Yeah. And so when did you find out that he had been struggling so badly? Well, I think once we all had a falling out with him, we were just like, we don't know how to deal with this anymore and we're not really getting along. So it's kind of just like a falling out. Got it. And then once we got back together and he was really working on himself, you know, we were there for him and we were proud of him. And now he just celebrated 10 years. Insane. He is so inspirational. I recommend his book to everybody. Do you ever visit him in prison? Yes, we did. We did. We did like twice. It was like a camp. Right. It was like a financial crimes prison. It wasn't like real prison. Like scary. It was just like he was like a day camp. Yeah. And they had activities and they were doing like cooking classes. Yeah. They were doing like fun things. Because I think it wasn't like. Yeah, he did like it was like the tax evasion. Yeah, right. Yeah. So okay. So that's a great question because I always think about people who rise to fame really quickly end up in financial trouble because of their taxes. Was that also your dad making sure that you were like 100% kept up with the IRS? Yeah, because I had no idea about taxes. Of course. Especially when you get to that level. I'm like, how do I file that? I didn't even know how to write a check. Yeah, because I just never had money like that. So my dad really helped me and my mom, both my parents. So yeah, my dad really helped with the taxes and he still does. So did you file? I'm like, where do your parents live? My bro still. Oh, they're so nice. They still have updates. How often do you see them? Not often, which sucks. That does. But like they're both retired now, so they're able to come whenever. And it's only like an hour and a half drive. So it's not terrible. But yeah, I'm hoping one day they move to Jersey. Yeah. So I can put them in a nursing home like right here by me so I can see them all the time. What do people in your hometown make of you? Are you like, you are the most famous person for Marlboro, I assume. Am I? Definitely. Well, we do have, so my best friend, one of my best friends married, Wade Davis, he's a famous professional baseball player. He lives in Marlboro now. So you maybe is that a couple? Yeah, right. Yeah, but no, all everybody that I graduated with, grew up with, I still talk. All my best friends from high school are still my best friends to this day. Love that. So yeah, I'm still very homie. And I'm not like, I'm too good for all these people. Like I still go home and I see everyone and I'm still Nicole to them. Which is nice. I literally forget that your name is Nicole. Everyone does, I know. Do you love that you got famous with a nickname? Some people like I think would hate it. Like they want to be known by their real name. Yeah, I mean, it was getting annoying at some point because they were like, Snooki and I'm like, you guys know my name is Nicole. Right. Like I was, I was getting annoyed that like no one knew my actual name. But now it's just like that's the brand. Yeah. And that's me. And Snooki is my brand name and like my character sometimes. But like I like the fact that like Nicole is like the mommy me. So I have like different personalities. No, that's really cute. Yeah. Okay. Like, can I just tell you this has been a dream? Your podcast, it's happening. What day do you drop episodes? Every Friday. Every Friday. And then I do one with Gina called the mean ball pod, which is new. I'm obsessed with your friendship with Gina. Yeah. So we just talk about mommy stuff and you know, that's really cute. Our weekends and stuff like that. So that is every Thursday. Every Thursday. Yeah. And you dropped Thursday. We dropped Monday to Friday. Okay. Five times a week. Got it. So this episode will be up shortly. Oh, you're busy. I'm booked and busy. Booked and busy. So much for coming. Thank you for coming. Of course you guys, if you find yourself, so where are your stores? Madison, New Jersey. Seaside, Heightson, Jersey. We have Huntington, New York. And then Nashville. If you find yourself in any of those towns, I highly recommend a trip to the Snoky Shop. Yes. Or a sting with your personality. Like you are everywhere. Obviously you sell like the merch in Jersey Shore stuff, but also just really cute clothes. Your shirt is from the Snoky Store. Yes. It's very Selena vibes. Yes. But yeah, I buy everything that you see in store. Everything. So you're basically shopping my closet. Right. So very much your style. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Tust the London Morning Show where we deliver the fast-five stories that you need to know everybody through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We are also available as podcasts and we're podcast can be found. So that's Spotify, Tunes, Stitch, Republic Radio, I already cast Box All the Places, wherever you listen to podcast, find us a toast. Leave a five star review about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented we are. And we will see you tomorrow for our final episode of the year. You were my last. Are you fucking kidding? I know. What was that? Bye everyone. Oh my God.