Dolphins Fire McDaniel, Wild-Card Preview, and Craig Watched 'Lord of the Rings'

That's it. The playoffs are here. It's one of the more fun playoffs I can remember. And even though the Giants aren't there, obviously, I'm fucking amped for these playoffs. It's going to be awesome. We're going to go over all these games. We're going to go over the Dolphins, Fire and Mike McDaniel. We have some emails that I am excited to run by you guys. But first, a reminder, our next episode is going to be on Netflix. Isn't that right, Danny Kelly? Netflix, really? Tell me about it. I'm glad you asked. So Monday morning, our playoff recap is going to be on Netflix. You can watch it there and all of our episodes going forward. You can watch on Netflix going forward or you can watch them on Spotify going forward or you could just listen to them like a normal podcast on the podcast platforms you already listened to going forward. I want to just take one second to linger on this just to be really clear. 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So on Tuesday, the dolphins announced that Mike, Daniel would be helping hire the new dolphins general manager. That was two days ago. And then today, Thursday, the dolphins owner, Stephen Ross. Sorry, let me read here. It says on ESPN, he caught a whiff of John Harbaugh's pheromones and told Mike McDaniel to kick rocks pheromones. DK, what do you think of the of the dolphins just deciding to keep Mike McDaniel with a statement of confidence and saying he can help pick the GM and then like 36 hours later being like, nah, that guy sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was we've made a huge mistake. You know, Joe waking up in the hospital bed, I've made a huge mistake. I think it's like truthfully just a bunch of good coaches got fired and they'd rather have one of those guys. Like that's the Occam's razor. This whole thing is they were they were prepared to go for it with Mike Daniel and then Harbaugh got fired and they're probably going to go after him. I don't know. That was kind of my read on the situation. Unless like McDaniel said something super crazy and these like post season interviews, I kind of doubt that was the case. But yeah, it's kind of kind of a strange timeline. They definitely did this belatedly. This is a weird coaching offseason cycle because it feels like like John Harbaugh is the best coach available. The best landing spot, the best team that doesn't have a head coach right out is the Ravens. You needed logs. Right. You needed logs. And it's like Mike McDaniel gets let go from Miami and now immediately kind of becomes like the hotshot play caller that everyone wants him and they're going to fire their OCs to get him. And it's like the Browns fired two time coach of the year, Kevin Stafansky, who's like another like young, really capable play calling coach that a lot of teams would want. And it's almost like, man, you guys, it was, you already had good options. And now we're just going to be swapping. It feels like everybody is selling out a little bit for John Harbaugh. Like, oh, John Harbaugh can only go to one team and it feels like there's 14 or like we got him. Yeah. You know what? I, uh, the expression that always gets used at this time of year and the only time and only context in which it gets used is he's got a full dance card. His dance card is full right now. What does that even fucking mean? What's a dance card? We're don't know. Is that from the 1920s? What are we talking about here? I think I think it's like a dance card is full. Yeah. You needed written, written form of I danced with your daughter or something. I don't know, but I, it's like, that's like Bridgerton shit. I, I don't know. It's funny that the overall, though, I do think what happened here, I do think it's kind of simple. Stephen Ross, who owns the dolphins is 85 years old and wants to win a super bowl. Same with the Falcons firing, uh, Rahim Morris, the owners 83. Like they want something. They want what they want now. Stephen Ross is the biggest donor to the University of Michigan. And when I say biggest donor, I mean, they have a good business school. It's called the Ross school of business because he gave them $200 million. That's a weird coincidence. I know, right? Crazy. So obviously Jim Harbaugh has quite the relationship with Stephen Ross because the biggest donor gets to know the coach very well. So to the point where Stephen Ross and Jim Harbaugh were so close that when the dolphins needed a coach a few years ago, they refused to interview Jim Harbaugh because Stephen Ross said, and I wrote this down because I wanted to quote it exactly. He said, I'm not going to be the person who takes Jim Harbaugh away from Michigan. So Stephen Ross loves the Harbaugh's. I will. That also tells me that Stephen Ross cares more about the success of Michigan than the Miami dolphins. Yes. And that's also why Jim Harbaugh went to the Michigan instead of the dolphin 13 years ago. So three years, they hired Mike Piedanyl instead of interviewing Harbaugh. Three years later, Mike Piedanyl's fired because John Harbaugh, Jim's older brother is available. I think this is very simple. You're going to, and maybe I'm already wrong by the time people listen to this, but the dolphins are going to want to hire John Harbaugh. They're going to hire Chad Alexander, who's the Chargers GM, assistant GM right now. He was with the Ravens for 20 years, 10 of those with the John Harbaugh. He's going to become the assistant GM. They're going to go through the whole like motions of the hiring process and then they're going to hire John Harbaugh. And guess what? The next person, the chopping block is Joe Shane for the Giants because there's no way John Harbaugh is going to go to the Giants if he gets the pick his GM in Miami. So the Giants are going to now fire Joe Shane after saying they keep. They're going to bulky him. They're going to, there's no way the Giants will be competitive for John Harbaugh unless they fire Joe Shane. So I actually think if the Giants fired Joe Shane, that's them trying to negotiate for Harbaugh, but I do think it's that simple as everyone's tripping over themselves to get him. Yeah. I think everybody wants Harbaugh. Also the Miami thing, I totally, yeah, I agree. The Ross connection, the Michigan connection, it's all there, but like, is Miami the best place to go if you're John Harbaugh? You have a terrible quarterback situation. You're paying $250 million a year. Why would you go to Miami? I know old people like Florida, but like, why would you go to Miami? I feel like there are better options here. I don't, I'm curious. What do you think? Money. No, I don't, he's got money. I think you want to, Harbaugh's want to win. I think it's institutional control of you get to run. Everybody wants more money. I have it's everybody wants more money. But you're, you're right. Money's the problem. Steven Ross owns Hudson Yards. That's where all the rich people in New York, we built a city inside your city for rich people. Yeah. You were telling me about that. The, don't get me started on that, but I feel like do you think Miami starting from scratch is a better place than the Giants or the other openings? DK. It just depends. Here's the deal. I think if you're a, if you're a coach and your dance card is full, as we always say at this time of year, I do think like the relationships and the, and the belief and confidence in the owner is like a pretty important thing. Like having an owner that is not going to like metal with your stuff, you know, hire somebody like hire a GM that's going to be like kind of like get in your way or whatever. It depends on how much power he's being offered, how much money he's being offered and how he feels about the relationship with Steven Ross and how much like Lee way he's going to have to do what he wants. I think for a, for a coach like Jim Harbaugh, the most important thing is do I have full control of everything? Yeah. That's more important. Probably than a quarterback. Yeah. I don't know. They're, they're close. They have control freaks. I agree. Yeah. So like that to me would be the big deal is like, you know, the relationship with Jim, this whole Jim John thing is like, it's like you couldn't get with the girl. So you got with her sister kind of deal. It's like super kind of weird, but it is maybe there's this, this established relationship there where he trusts Ross and knows that he's not going to like fuck around with like what he's trying to do. And he's just going to give him control to like run the team. I think that would be the most important thing to Harbaugh to John Harbaugh right now. I think you're dead on and Craig, I think you're right that if you look at it solely in terms of the players on the field and you're like the Dolphins have a $50 million hole too, they have to fix and no backup options. Why wouldn't you go to the Giants and Jackson's art where they have more pieces and you know, why would you do that? But I think DK's right because what's the relationship with the owners? Well, that's the thing. The Giants have ownership and trench in the front office, which I won't go on that rant, but they have to. But to your point, that's horrible. Let's just call it what it is. Yeah. John's brother Jim worked for Stephen Ross for 10 years and like it's not called that, but it's just that with extra steps. Stephen Ross gave hundreds of millions of dollars to Michigan and then they gave tens of millions dollars to Jim Harbaugh. It's like Jim Harbaugh worked for his brother for 12 years. It's like it's not that complicated. It's like, oh yeah, I know my brother. My brother says he's good to work for it. It's kind of that simple. Right. It's like every other fucking job in the world. Oh yeah, my brother's working for his 50th year. He hired my brother. Yeah. Well, we should also say that, you know, Shepter reported that Harbaugh is not expected to conduct any interviews until next week. Do you think there's a chance that if the Packers lose and fire the floor, if the bills lose and fire McDermott, that Harbaugh goes to one of those two teams, which are are much more kind of organized, professional, high floor organizations right now? I didn't even think about that. I think that's what the truth. No, the reason the bill, the dolphins are waiting is, I mean, let's just do it. Like they have to comply with the running rule. Yeah, I was gonna say guess who else is a Michigan man. I was gonna say Shepter. I, Shepter, I love Adam Shepter. Yeah. But Shepter also is like the Michigan connection of Shepter, Brady, Steven Ross, Harbaugh's, they all know each other. Illuminati. This is the football Illuminati. It is. Michigan men. Michigan men. Well, this is why the dolphin, again, it's a small world. It's not the Illuminati. It's like, it's just people. Skull and bones. There's a, that's what it is. Why do you think that Tom Brady was going to go to the dolphins on that? The dolphins were docked draft picks because the NFL, in their mind, proved that Steven Ross hosted Brady on his yacht being like, play for us, come from the Patriots to the dolphins and I'll give you part of the team. It's because Steve Ross is on Tom Brady when he was in college at Michigan. They've known each other for fucking 20 years. Anyway, that is just, that's how business gets done and football isn't any different. So that is how this is all being done. It's like the Chargers GM is going to get that job, the Assistant GM is going to get the job because he was with John Harbaugh. The same way the Chargers current GM, George T's got the job because he worked for the Ravens for 25 years. You know, it'll just be funny. I get the whole, you know, cronyism, whatever you want to call it. Like everybody's friends are working for one another, but if Matt LaFleur gets fired and you can go be the head coach, the Green Bay Packers, or you can go coach Josh Allen and the Bills. They're like, I wonder how far the Steven Ross, Michigan men connection can go and it's like, so I can do Josh Allen and the Bills or Tua and the dolphins. There's a limit. There is. I have to imagine, right? Also with the Packers, there is no owner. Correct. That's the best owner of all. I got it. If Matt, let's not even get, if Matt LaFleur gets fired, I think that would be the funniest thing ever. I would take him in two seconds. I don't know. Well, that seems ridiculous. But so I want to go. I want to linger on this for a little bit though. So John, we can talk more next week about whether John Harbaugh is even worth all this. However, Mike McDaniel, often secordinator, that's easy. He can have any job he wants. Eagles, Lions, Ravens, that's easy. Yeah. I want my, if John Harbaugh goes to the dolphins and then the Giants have to pick second. I want Mike McDaniel for the Giants. I know that's kind of crazy. Mike McDaniel is like a monster. Everybody wants him at this point. Even teams with like good OCs want him at this point. He's like, it's what Craig said at the beginning of the show. It's like, it's crazy that this guy gets fired and then it's the most popular. Obviously, he's a slightly different job, very different job, just being the O.C. But he's clearly very still, still very highly respected. Yeah. Usually the guy's getting fired or like, it's like Antonio Pierce, Brian Callahan. And it's like, we'll never hear from them again. And now it's like, Jesus, we have John Harbaugh. We have McDaniel. We have Stephansi. These are like very qualified coaches. A lot of guys have to go take like a little sabbatical in college or take a year off and rebuild their network, rebuild their reputation, fly under the radar for a while. That's why I want actually I'm OK with the Giants and I'm hiring Mike McDaniel. And again, I I do think he's like cilantro and that 20% of people are just going to be repulsed by him no matter what he does. It's like because what does it taste like vomit or something? What is it? People think it tastes like soap. It's like a genetic thing. And I just think people will always, especially frankly, in New York, I think older people are going to be like, what the fuck is this guy doing? But if Harbaugh's archetype is the CEO and he can build an organization and the pitch, at least is we could build a competitive team year over year that builds through the draft and we've done that for 20 years, the Ravens way, whatever, which is the Patriots way. The McDaniel argument is don't you want a really cool offense and that? Yeah, he's a weird quirky guy when you're winning that sick and when you're up 70, nothing on the Broncos. That's awesome. And when you're losing, it sucks. But also I would argue the issue with the dolphins is how they built the team and the players. Bill Barnwell, he's been at a great point. How many players went through Miami and were on offense and were way better in Miami than they were before? Like Tyree Killow, the best seasons of his career, statistically in Miami, Jalen Waddle was better there once Mike McDaniel came. And that's not just like the 2022 season. Like Darren Waller came out of retirement and had his best snaps in Miami than he had in like five years. John O'Smith, John O'Smith, like Raheem Mostor came in at 20 touchdowns at like 31 years old. Yeah, 31. You know, it'd be a mountain. Like there's a lot of players that walked into Miami. Aaron Brewer, the center for the dolphins. I mean, he might make an all-proteam at center for Miami. So I think Mike McDaniel, that's like eight guys we just named that had the best seasons of their career when they went to Miami. So I look at the Giants and I'm like, yeah, he's weird. He's quirky. Like who if it works, it's cool. But I'm like, I kind of want him working with Jackson Dart because I think all the limitations of Miami are building around Tua, but I want to see what he could do with Jackson Dart. I don't disagree. I wonder if if he's going to get head coaching opportunities if like Atlanta or Cleveland two places he's already coached at, you know, he was on Atlanta with Shanahan in the year they went to the Super Bowl and blew the 28-3, you know, with Matt Ryan. If Matt Ryan comes in to be the president of Atlanta, is Mike McGeehan going to be an option there? It's funny. And also Matt Ryan won MVP in a Shannon system. He's going to want a Shannon system for Atlanta. That's funny though, because it's like Atlanta for McDaniel. I mean, you obviously, I'm sure he wants to be head coach over a coordinator at a good on a good team. I would imagine he wants to be head coach still, but like Atlanta is kind of similar to Miami where it's like great running back, a really good receiver, a lot of pieces. Quarterback's not there. Yeah, you know, I can't figure it out. You got to make this left handed quarterback work. Yeah, it's weird. Well, you get a better it's it's halfway between having one and having nothing. Like I think Miami it's tough because if you cut to or you don't want to play him injury stuff, but at least the Falcons, you have the chance that Penex comes back is healthy. I also think that without I think Mike McDaniel would view Kirk Cousins is perfectly able to operate the way they want. I mean, Kirk Cousins, the Shannon, I mean, he started in Washington with Kyle Shannon. That's kind of where you know what I mean? Like that system and everything he was like Washington as a commander or as a coordinator also feels like an option. He also we didn't really talk about the cousins thing just as an aside. Cousins had his contract renegotiate. He's basically going to be a free agent after this year. I think I still kind of think it depends because of what happens with the front office and it's really up to Matt Ryan, which this is a this is a weird situation because, you know, when Andrew Luck went to be the GM at Stanford, which is just how colleges work that you need a frontman as GM and then either depending on the power structure, like the head coach is going to make all the decisions and the GM is just going to be some kid telling people or it's like Andrew Luck's actually in charge or whatever pitching people. That makes sense. But now we have this happening in the NFL like that Ryan with the Falcons. Obviously, Tom Brady with the Raiders. Troy Aikman went on with the the Dolphins. I also think that's kind of why a little reason Mike Medina got pushed out the window is that do you remember Troy Aikman talking about the Dolphin Steelers game? Yes, he was pissed about the end of game play calling by Miami who wasn't pushing to score when they were down like whatever 21 even by Troy standards. Troy, I wrote it down because I didn't want to miss Grotem, but Troy Aikman who's seven days right joined the Dolphins. This is what Aikman said about I think it was December 14th or so and the Steelers money in football game that the Dolphins lost. It was pathetic. Troy Aikman said, I'm flabbergasted by what we've witnessed here in this fourth quarter with the Dolphins and now they want to call timeouts. It is just about as ridiculous a fourth quarter as I've seen in a long time. And then he was hired to help the Dolphins hire a GM and then seven days later, Mike McDaniel was fired. Wow. That was I remember we talked about that on on the Sunday night recap show or I don't know if it was a Monday night game. I forget. But yeah, they were down like two, three scores and they were not pushing the ball down the field and Aikman was fucking pissed. Yeah. And so I but these guys, this is the new trend. And like, I think the truth is I don't know how much power these guys have, but I think to your point, DK, the Falcons and everything, it's like, it is kind of, I don't know what Matt Ryan thinks of Kirk Cousins, but I do think that's going to shape. I kind of just assumed the Falcons would bring Kirk Cousins back because I can't say enough Michael Penix is having an ACL reconstruction in the other knee than he tore his ACL twice in college. So it's like, you can't depend on that. And I'm like, well, Kirk Cousins was good enough down the stretch. They won that last four games. They somehow tied for first in the division for Atlanta, even though they were limited from the playoffs early December. I'm like, I don't know. I would just bring Kirk back. You're going to pay him, but I don't know what better option they're going to find. But, you know, Kirk also kind of like opened up Kyle Pitts. Like, I think he'd be good for Drake London passing him. I got to say, as a Steelers fan right now, I feel like I'm in a 30 year marriage in the 1950s where I'm just kind of locked into this thing and I'm kind of staring at like my assistant and all the secretaries. I'm like, man, there's a lot of options and I am kind of locked into this one person. I've been with societal norms just won't allow me to divorce. I am locked into this thing, I guess. Meet with the meeting with the head of Menkins and I'm like, man, McDaniels opened up. Wow. All right. That sounds kind of interesting. The parted when he's like, I'm Irish. I'll do this forever. You know, like, you know, it's funny. We joked about that with the Steelers and Rudy's forever like that where Irish would do this forever. I think we forgot this Rudy's actually are Irish. Yeah. Right. Did we occur to me? If three coaches in 50 years. Yeah. By the way, I, I Googled what a dance card is. And so we're basically right, but it is funny and there's another phrase that comes off of it from a dance card. So a dance card is a small, often decorative booklet used at formal dances, especially 19th century balls for women to log partners for each dance, preventing wallflower status and allowing polite refusals by declaring the card full with terms like pencil me in pencil me in pencil me in. Interesting. Dance cards. So this is Bridgerton straight up Bridgerton. Wow. All right. Well, you know, uh, Jim, uh, John Harbaugh, Mr. Darcy. Sorry, pencil in John Harbaugh from Miami. Yeah. What is that? What's the main dude? I guess there's several seasons of Bridgerton hyphens. Did you watch Bridgerton? Oh, yeah. Who's the guy who's like the popular guy? Uh, the older brother. The Anthony Bridgerton. I don't see Jonathan. He's really fucking hot. I didn't watch it. I gotta tell you, you didn't, I mean, you didn't watch Bridgerton with Liz because I tell you Liz watched it with Skippy. Liz does not watch Bridgerton. DK, I think a universal experience for men who watch Bridgerton with their wife or partner is just watching them watch them come out of the water in their shirt. So can wet and they're just like jaw dropped. Shit. Yeah. Jonathan Bailey. Yeah. Sexiest man alive. Jonathan Bailey. Oh, yes. That's who it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I don't think Liz watch Bridgerton actually. You're a lucky man. What's the, what's the show that you have? I won't let her, but yeah. What? You won't let her. Speaking of 50s marriages. I have kind of like a like a child lock situation on the television. She has no idea. That's why you gotta watch this on Netflix, parental controls, you know? She can only watch the Great British Banking Show, but she has no idea because she likes it so much. So it's fine. No, but is that the show that you guys watch together in terms of like the atypical not that what I would normally watch show? What? You guys watch as a couple because we're talking hyphens and I watch Bridgerton. Oh yeah, Bridgerton with our partners. You're asking me what shows I watch with Liz? Yes. It's like when you make Liz watch like a fast and furious movie and then it's like two for you, one for her. Like what's the movie that you like? Like what show would you not whatever watch, but then you did with her? There aren't many. I, I, I, there's no show that like she's like big like she watches the pit. I don't watch the pit. Yeah, that's different. Yeah. It's kind of the answer is none. She doesn't really make me watch anything. Wow. Perfect marriage. Well, a lot of the quote unquote girly shows I like like we're watching sex in the city as she's seen it a million times. I love that counts. Yeah. But I like it. I'm not being forced to watch it. If men are listening, dude, if you have to make it all branching, you want to watch a show with your partner, dude, sex in the city is fucking so funny. That's funny. Well, speaking of there's a college football, playoff game Thursday night. There's a college football, playoff game Friday night. And then there are two NFL playoff games on Saturday, three NFL playoff games on Sunday. And for shits and gigs, there's another NFL playoff game Monday night. So either you're single, you have an incredible relationship or you're going to have to pick and choose your spots. So. We want to start with Saturday and just get into these wild card games. So DK. Yo. Los Angeles Rams are at the Carolina Panthers. Shanky's game at the Carolina Panthers is hilarious. It's at the Panthers is funny. I also think it's funny that the Rams beat the sorry, the Rams were favored by the Panthers by 10 and a half in the regular season. The Panthers won. Yeah. And then the spread the point spread in this game is exactly the same as the other one, even though the Panthers won and the entire betting market's like, nah, that, that even happened. Yeah. This is a weird game. Obviously we've talked about how the, to me, the Panthers are like the most pathetic playoff team of all time, even though technically speaking, there have been worse playoff teams per DVOA. This is one of this is the way that they eked into the playoffs, needing another team to win for them to get them into the playoffs is just so sad. I like that DK. DK's been harping on this so much as though his beloved Seahawks didn't make the playoffs at seven and nine and have incredible win. Actually, and that Seahawks team had a worse DVOA. You're like, this is so lame. And I tell you guys, so obviously the whole thing is the Seahawks won that game with the Beast Quick. Yeah, I talked to this is like a fucking annoying flex, but I learned this from Matt Hasselback. They ran the play wrong. Like that play was the reason he had to bounce it and like break all the tackles is because they totally, they didn't want to call the play because it was fucked up and then they totally botched it and the coaches are right. And then Marshall Lynch just fucking scored. Wow, you know Matt Hasselback. That's a bit deaf. Bill Diff. That is cool. The I will say this is a funny stat, but according to airshots, the DVOA King, the five out of the six worst playoff teams, according to DVOA, one they won their wild card matchup. So we'll see what happens in this game. I think the Rams are outside the Seahawks, according to like, again, to DVOA, the Seahawks and the Rams are actually two of the greatest teams according to DVOA ever. The Seahawks are the seventh best team per DVOA. The Rams are the ninth best team ever. They are the five seed because they lost to the other great team in the DVOA or the Seahawks. They also lost to the Panthers that did not help them. The Rams are one of the lowest variance teams. According to DVOA, which means like they're just very, very consistent game in and game out. They always play well. They're not up and down. Their big fatal flaw is special teams. They're one of the worst special teams in the NFL. And that's been kind of like the thing that really ruined them in a lot of these games. It ruined them against the Seahawks. It ruined them against the Eagles when they lost to the Eagles earlier in the season. So I don't know, just looking at the looking at the Rams, I actually in our, you know, staff post, I picked the Rams to win the Super Bowl. I think that they're just like so good. That's such an emotional hand. You're such a coward. I still you're such a coward. I picked the Seahawks to win. Okay. That's fine. Agree. I, but I just wanted to pick this, the Rams because hopefully that will reverse jinx them and my Seahawks. Did you at least have the balls to write that in your blurb of like, I'm a Seahawks fan and I'm picking this. I was going to say for the ringer.com, you're basically just making a selection that is a personal internal head. No, my entire career is based on reverse jinxing every other team. So the Seahawks can win. Like publicly, you're saying I'm doing it right now. No, I true truthfully though, you guys are calling me a coward, but if I, if the Seahawks end up facing the Rams, which they very well could in I think the championship round or the divisional round. Um, I'm going to be very nervous because the Rams. I mean, basically, if you look at the two games, the Rams and Seahawks played this, this year, there was like a two point difference, like a one yard difference. Like both of these games were extremely, extremely close came down to the end. Um, I just think the Rams are really, really good and Stafford is fucking amazing. They have Puka, Devante's coming back. They have a good run game. They have a really good defense. They have one of the best coaches in the NFL. I didn't just pick them to reverse jinx them or whatever. I really do think they're a very good team. The Rams are the best team left, but there was something that I just felt wrong about picking them in the Super Bowl. And I'm like, their biggest issues are covering punts and making kicks. And I'm like, that you. It is scary. Yeah. They did fire their, their special teams coordinator. Maybe that'll make a difference. I know, it doesn't fix anything. My question for you is going to be. Have these like last three weeks for the Rams have lost two of their last three games? Has that affected your view of like the all powerful Rams, the team that like a month or two ago, everybody thought was the best team in the NFL. But I guess I know the answer to that question. The answer is no. If you pick them to win the Super Bowl. No, not really. If anything, it's like a red herring thing. Like now they're now they're lurking in the background ready to strike. They also two of those, those losses to Atlanta and Seattle, both of those came without Devante. I want to at least humor the idea that the Panthers can win because nothing will top Taylor Heineke really, really, really almost beating the Bucks with Tom Brady that ended up winning the Super Bowl. So that was another like 500 team division winner. And I feel like it just has to be disaster like Stafford has to throw picks again. Bryce Young, I think in the first game through two different touchdowns on fourth down, but I will say I do think the Panthers, if they're able to run the ball with like Rico Dattle and Chuba Hubbard and like just not abandon the running game, I it's funny because the Panthers offense is averaged sized because Bryce Young is really tiny, but all the receivers are really fricking big. It's like the head in the oven and feet in the freezer. It's room temperature. So if they are able to run, I do think there will be opportunities for their giant receivers like McMillan and Jalen Cocher and even Legate who doesn't always play big with their big guys. I do think they can kind of body the Rams and Bryce Young doesn't have a ton of margin for error. Like he doesn't really not tall enough to see over the middle field doesn't have the arm strength to put it the outside, but he does have good touch. And I do kind of think that the same way hit those shots in that first Rams game where they ended up winning. I think if the Panthers jump to a lead and the Rams tilt is the only thing that I'd be interested in because that the Rams have had pucker factor ever since the Seahawks won that two point conversion. I think the Rams have kind of like mentally been like what the fuck we thought we were the best team in the league. But I mean, obviously, you know, the Rams are probably going to fucking destroy Caroline. The Rams season has been so, so weird because yeah, they lost to the Seahawks with that two point conversion, which was like wildly improbable. Like everything about that game was wildly improbable. They lost to the Eagles on a last second where they were going to kick the game winning field goal. Or no, they were. Yeah, I can't remember. Jordan Davis blocked it and returned it for a touchdown. Was it tied at the time? I think it was tied at the time and then they returned it for a touchdown to win the game. Was that what it was? Whatever, whatever the case is, they should have won that game. And then it was like a block kick. It was just like crazy circumstances against the Panthers. There was the two fourth down touchdowns. I believe didn't Stafford throw a pick six in that game too. Yeah. And so there's just like the Rams losing. It has to be like some crazy act of God to happen. It feels like, you know what I mean? So that's that is truly where like my confidence in them comes is like they are just such a good team. They're very balanced. They're very good coach. They're very well coached. They have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. They have two of the best receivers. They have a good run game. They have a good defense. They can rush the passer. I don't know. When I look at that, they have like this weird schematic advantage that no one else can do with a 13 personnel. They just feel like a team that's going to, you know, go through the playoffs and kind of kick everyone's asses. This would be one of the more disappointing playoffs losses in a while because usually like we look like the Patriots, right? The Patriots went 14 and three and we look back at their schedule and be like, God, they had that one weird loss against the Raiders in week one. But this is like as if that the Raiders team made the playoffs that you have to play them again. I feel like it's so, so rare that the blemish on your schedule is the team you play in the playoffs because obviously the blemish should not make the playoffs. So it's just very bizarre that the bad loss of the season is in the playoffs. Right. So they can't lose twice. I really don't see it happening. Yeah. Unless something really weird happened. Although, so the Panthers are one of four home dogs out of the six games, four of the six games that are home underdogs, which is pretty incredible. It's a really, it's a really, really fun weekend. I mean, these games, you know, maybe something will be uncompetitive, but what's pretty off. I was just going to add real quick that the other reason I'm like pretty confident in the, in the Rams for this one is I saw this from Madocata NFL. Matt Stafford's had like an all time season from a clean pocket this year. He's throwing 42 touchdowns from a clean pocket and the Panthers have the league's lowest pressure rate on defense. So I will say, is it, is it considered a clean pocket? If it's at the one yard line and he just throws it immediately. Probably. It is. It is. I think technically it is. Yeah. So it's only 30. I want to say one of the Rams offensive linemen has already been declared out. So that could be like a wrinkle that, that does matter in this game. But so not quite sure. The other Saturday game is going to be Packers or at the Bears. Woo. I mean, this is this game is on Amazon Prime, I believe. So, I mean, this is the second time they played Saturday. Obviously, Packers and Bears played twice this season. It was awesome. Both. I mean, the first game came down to Caleb Williams throwing a pick in the end zone that would have been a touchdown walk off touchdown and 13 days later, they played again and then Bears had to recover it on side kick and then Caleb Williams had to throw a fourth down touchdown and then the best throw. One of the better throws in the history of the Bears in overtime to win the game and it was, it was insane. I got to tell you, I know Craig in particular loves the Bears. I do. I feel a little bit like Debbie Downer at Disneyland asking Mickey Mouse if they're scared of like a terrorist attack. But I feel very specific situation. Watched it. But I was thinking about, I just kind of feel like the Packers are going to win. I can't believe that the it's great motivation for the Bears. They're not favored. I was shocked. I am shocked. So the Packers are favored by one and a half. I thought it was going to be controversial that I thought the Packers are going to win. Packers are the fourth team to ever make the playoffs after losing their final five games and one of those was the Steelers last year and they got ran off the field and the pack. I mean, Jordan Love has not played since the last Bears game. The Packers have not won since the first Bears game, like the amount of injuries. I can't. Micah Parsons. I kind of thought the Bears would be favored. They actually only lost to us four to be. Oh, yes. Sorry. Let's correct you real quick. But yeah, still very bad. Not great. Still not good. That changes everything. I just think not to be cliche, but Jordan Love's been here before and Caleb Williams hasn't, which matters to me. But the bigger one to me is just the Bears are the first team in NFL history to win six games that they were losing in the final two minutes, which is cool, but not to be a dick, but I'm like, why are you losing so many games in the final two minutes? That seems unsustainable. But I want to shout out Cody Alexander at Matchquarters. He's the man and I was talking about this game this week and he put it perfectly. The Bears are the March Madness team that leads the country in three point shooting and they're those teams never win March Madness. Well, can they win a game? They said they win a game. They might win a game. They might win a game, but the Bears are going to go cold. But here's the it's the turnovers. The Bears literally have the most turnovers in the NFL and defense and the fewest turnovers in the NFL and offense. That's freaking random. And I know that's not fun to say, but like it's the truest and most predictable thing season over season and game to game that like you can't just do that all the time. The Bears don't get stops on defense. They don't like the Jaguar's office a lot of turnovers, but the Jags do get some stops. The Bears do not get stops on defense. They're terrible defense when if they don't get a turnover. And so to me, this whole game comes down to. Will Jordan love throw an interception or not? Because like the Packers don't throw a ton of picks. He's actually been way more disciplined this season. And when he's when they've lost, it's not been the Packers can't move the ball. It's they get to the red zone. They don't score like the Bears get the last Bears game. It's like the Packers get to the red zone, but they couldn't score the Panthers game. The Packers are moving the ball in Carolina, but Jordan love throws picks. If he doesn't throw picks, I think the pack, the Bears are not stopping Green Bay in the offense, even though it's weird to say that about a team that we last time we saw Josh Jacobs, he had four carries, three yards. But I don't know. I really lean Green Bay in this one, which is sad because I would rather the Bears win. Yeah, I was going to say to follow kind of the narrative that Craig has put forth that the Bears are going to win a Super Bowl at some point in the next like three or four years. It does kind of just feel to me. This is totally gut and nothing else related. That's all there is. That there's they're going to lose like in a very tragic fashion. Like they're they're winning late in the game. They lose on like a field goal at the last minute. And then next year, they'll come back like a lot stronger. And like more ready for the playoffs. Very possible. It's just like this is how it feels. I don't know if that's going to happen, but they've certainly exceeded expectations this year and being as good as they are. I don't know. I kind of am just like no one excites me on Green Bay. Like I'm like, Josh Jacobs has not been healthy for eight weeks. They're a shell of their former team kind of. They don't have Tucker Kraft who was there. It's like Christian Watson's banged up and I like I like Christian Watson, but he's banged up. It's like Jordan Love hasn't played. And I think the Bears have a lot of players that I like on offense. The Bears can also run the ball. I mean, the Packers two weeks ago got destroyed by Tyler Huntley and the Ravens because the Ravens ran for 300 yards against Green Bay. And I'm like, I don't know if this game is in Chicago. I trust the running game for Chicago much more than I trust the running game for Green Bay. And I'm like, and then you factor in like the skill position group and I don't know, Caleb with Ben Johnson's play calling versus Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur. It's it's it's much closer to me. I understand why the spread is one and a half because I do think it's a fairly even matchup. But I like I like the I think I just like the talent on the offensive side of the ball with Chicago a little bit more than I do Green Bay. I understand that Jordan Love experienced thing. I think that matters. He's been good in the playoffs, but that's all fair. I mean, that's why I thought the bears would be favored. I thought the bears would be favored, especially when you're talking about the run designs, like the way the bears ran on the Eagles. I mean, the Packers, the defensive tackles that center of the Packers defense is just they just keep losing a defensive tackle every week for like a month. And I think that I mean, you saw it against Baltimore. The Packers, the Packers closer to Thanksgiving were incredible and stopping the run outside runs like those Derek County things weren't really happening to Green Bay six weeks ago as a way and then they just get dominated by the Ravens in Week 17. The vibes on one hand for the Green Bay are bad. Like they do the seven seed three years in a row and they just kind of lay down and they were like week 18 that were so hurt. We can't even play and they benched everyone last year last week. But I want to just note one thing which is one of those if Green Bay comes out firing, we're going to be like, we didn't talk about this enough. Jordan Love hasn't played since he got concussed versus the bears and it was kind of a cheap shot. And Matt LeFler said last this week, I know a lot of guys took that hit that Jordan Love took a little personally. So I'm not saying we're going to go out there and play dirty or nothing like that, but we definitely are going to defend our brother. Sorry, wait, that was that was not. Not for that was one of the Packers players, but I was going to say that would be like kind of Bolton board material if he said something like that. But yeah, that's another variable. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right. They're going to have some motivation there. I don't know. This one's tough. Yeah, this one's great. I think Bill said that this is only the third time in the history of football that the Bears and Packers have met in the playoffs. The Bears and to be clear, I if I could pick, I'd rather the Bears advance and Caleb like I miss the biggest game in Caleb's life and I'd rather that than I'm injured. Big game for him. It's a more fun story if the Bears and Caleb magical run continues. Green Bay will get slaughtered if they win this game and then go to Seattle around two, but the Bears advance things like way more interesting because there's also no love loss between the two coaches here, right? Like Ben Johnson and LaFleur don't like each other. Yeah, I mentioned that Ben Johnson's opening press conference to the Bears. He's like, you know, we're here to like, yeah, I mean, all the stuff like there's been a lot of trash talk. The the handshake between them the last two games is like just very quick fastest handshake I've ever seen just like barely touching each other. Yeah, this is this is just this is a great rivalry that now exists. It's like an old rivalry, but now it's like actually rivalry again. Sunday this I think this game is sick. The bills are at the Jacksonville Jaguars, dude, seven years ago, eight years ago, the Bills and Jags had the saddest playoff game I've ever seen. It was a wild card game. It was like Blake Bortles Jaguars beat Tyrod Taylor. The bills 10 to three. Yeah. And boys should have won the next game too. Oh, the Jags. I don't even get me started. That was against Steelers, right? No, it was against New England. Well, that was the AFC championship game and the Jaguars absolutely deserved to go and there was a bullshit call on at the end of that game. But don't get me started because I had the Jaguars to make the super little 100 to one. Sorry, I was picked for some reason. I pictured the Steelers losing to the Broncos on that one play. That was the two. Mary Thomas, Tim Tebow. God where my mind went all time. Yeah, I liked Tebow, too. I kind of like I enjoy. I was like kind of a pseudo Florida fan because I love to watch a T-Bow. And he was so fucking bad in the NFL and him hitting. It was the first play over time to Mary Thomas immediately. He took it to the yard. They ran because you know the deal with the post that formation, they ran a for a motion out of that formation 22 times and they ran the ball 22 times in the 23rd time they threw it. Classic Steelers Steelers always give up some giant fucking massive play at the end of the game. Larry Fitz. Larry Fitz. I mean, literally Tuesday flowers touchdowns like three days ago. It's always what they do. I feel like Bill's Jags is the classic. The Jaguars are the better team, but Josh Allen is the best player in the game and Josh Allen has to be the best player in the world to win. But he has a foot injury and I don't know if you guys I think the Jaguars. I think the Jags are going to win this game more handily than people think. Like need this to say, Trevor Lawrence is hot right now, but I think this is a Josh Allen sideline game. Like I think this is one of those like you're going to see a hair frazzled on the sideline and you're going to see one of the looking at the scoreboard and you're going to see one of the graphics pop up. It's like Josh Allen hasn't touched the ball in 28 minutes and counting it. You know what I mean? I think I agree with you. I worry that this is the like every analytics sports betting guru who has their model, everything's in a favorite Jacksonville. Jacksonville is like the analytics darling right now. And this is the most important. I think this is now maybe the most important game of Josh Allen's career. Like the fact we talked about this. Screw JJ McCarthy. This is a big game for Josh. We're the games. We're going to learn a lot about Josh Allen on this weekend. But like we talked about this a month ago, no Lamar and no Mahomes in the playoffs. Like this is the time for Josh Allen to make the Super Bowl. And if he gets bounced in round one against the Jags, I know the Jags are good. But just the way that sounds round one, Josh Allen loses to the Jags when there's no Lamar and no Patrick Mahomes is brutal. Could I I mean, I would my small tweak is like one year ago, Josh Allen, they were in the AFC championship game against the Chiefs team that lost the Super Bowl. They were down like 40 points. But like losing to Patrick Mahomes to me is like, OK, he lost to Patrick. You're a footnote in history. Yeah. Losing round one in a playoff where there's no Mahomes and Lamar is going to we're going to look back on this and be like, what a massive misoperability for Buffalo. Maybe you're right. I look at it as the jack. No one wants to believe that the Jaguars are as good as they are. That's 100 percent true. But no one wanted to believe the Bills were as good as they are five years ago or four years ago until they went and they proved it. And I think the Jaguars are on the precipice of that. Look, the Jaguar, unless it doesn't just need to be Josh Allen being amazing, Trevor Lawrence could be a pumpkin and throw another four picks or something like he did that, that Chargers game like Trevor, even two months ago, Trevor Lawrence is having four turnovers of the game. But part of me just thinks that's over. And again, think about the teams that were punch lines until they're not the lions, the Bills, like it happens. And I kind of think if the Jaguars were the Packers, like if the same team and Cohen and everyone, but they were just the Packers, no one would be like what you just said, where you're like, you lose to Jacksonville. It's like the Jaguars are pretty good, man. And I also. Yeah, right. I think I agree with you. I think they're going to win, but I'm worried for the scary against I think the Jags are going to win. But I'm but I fear that everybody feels that way. Like as as as hard as it is for a team with Josh Allen to be the nobody believes in his team. I know, I think nobody believes in the Bills and no one's going to take the thing that like the thing that keeps thinking about with this game is kind of funny because it feels a little bit like this year. And I don't know how to put it without like sounding insulting, but it feels like they took the superhero a little bit out of Josh Allen and they're like, we're a really good run team. You know, James Cook is the leading rusher in the NFL. We're just going to run the fuck out of the ball. We don't have a lot of receivers. So like it feels like it's been a minute since Josh Allen has gone Superman and done something crazy. Maybe I'm forgetting like a recent thing that he did, but like this game schematically is set up for Josh. Put us on, put the team on your shoulders and fucking carry us. And I'm like, just like kind of waiting for that to happen because the Jags are really good run defense team that that is like what they do on defense and theoretically they could shut down James Cook and basically make the bills one dimensional on offense. And now the question is, do you want to make them one dimensional on offense? Probably. But now you're asking, now you're saying, Hey, Josh, you go do it. I could not agree more of what you just said. I could not. That makes me nervous. If I'm a Jags fan, I'm like, I'd rather have them. I'd rather lose to James Cook than fucking Josh Allen kind of deal. Also hyphens what you were saying about Chicago, like Chicago's really dependent on turnover shot, you know, the turnover margin. Jacksonville a little bit the same way. The Bears have the most turnovers in the league with 33. Jacksonville is second with 31. They have the third biggest turnover margin in the NFL. So there is a little bit of like Jesus Christ. If Trevor Lawrence like gets a little bit tight, throws one pick, Josh Allen doesn't turn the ball over. Now all of a sudden we're in a negative turnover margin and it's you're facing Josh. I totally agree. And I think the thing DK said, like we were joke, it's a joke, but it's not a joke of like, do you have the luxury of watching all these football games between Thursday and Monday night? And this is one I would not miss because of what DK said. The chances that it's either a passing torch game or like Trevor Lawrence is actually incredible or what do you get said about this could be a Josh Allen like superstar game? I agree. You're waking up the Hulk. Come on out Hulk. Come on. Come on. That's what I feel like by stopping the run, you're like, you're fucking bear. Yeah. Jelly, jelly. Come on out, jelly. We always say like, we're always like, don't abandon the run. It's like the bill should absolutely abandon the run in this game. Like this is the rare occasion where you're like, okay, Josh, you need to go do everything in this game. We don't care if you get hit. They're going to go for it on fourth down. I don't know what the kicking. They've met their two options. A kicker going to be Matt Parater was 41 and pulled this quad last week. So it's a 41 year old coming off quad injury. So what is the kicking range of that? Or Matthew Wright, who they decided to practice what either way the go for it range is going to be huge. So I mean, while the Jags have the guy who can kick a field goal from 70 yards. Yeah, there's like a 30 yard difference in field goal range in this game, maybe depending on what's going on. I mean, they're kickers, a quad injury. It's like you're going to use a full participant. I don't care. It's like, what if he aggravates it? He's 41. Um, yeah, I agree. Okay. I mean, I want to be clear. Josh Allen has been very, very good this year. He has a lot of touchdowns, but I just feel like he's going to have to go like super duper crazy for them to win this game and they're going to be asking him to do that. Yeah. And I think the bill should play like the Rams. Like they should put a six offense, a lemon field issue with three tight ends and then like don't even bother establish it. Just throw the whole fucking game of the action. Um, speaking of which, but not the rim. Sorry. The charge, the next game on Sunday is the Chargers are at the Patriots, which this is the Sunday night game. Um, right? Oh, did I get this backwards? Yeah. Oh, actually, I didn't get this backwards. Sorry. Yeah. You want to do it? Yeah. Let's say I don't care and people can hear I'm stupid. Well, I think, you know, this game's no, no, yeah, this game's at 8 p.m. and Sunday football. Yeah. Sunday night, the it's in New England. They're Patriots are favorite by three and a half over the Chargers. I said, Oh, I think, you know, Josh Allen and the bills are like slightly and nobody believes in us. The actual nobody believes in us team. People like, Oh, the Panthers can never win. No one thinks the Chargers can do anything in the playoffs. Like, no, like they're not even in the conversation. That's how nobody believes in us. They are. I'm not sure I believe they even made the playoffs. I think it's incredible. I look, I'm like, wow, the Chargers were 11 and six. How did they do that? Dude, the offensive line numbers for the Chargers after Joel went down are absolutely astonishing. I'm going to read you some right now. The 25 different five man offensive line combinations over 17 games. 25, 25 different offensive line combinations. I think it might be 29. Oh, I just saw 25. Justin Herbert's been sacked 54 times. Just the second most in the league behind Cam Ward. Herbert was hit on a league high 129 drop backs, which is the second highest of the last 25 years since they started the stat of QB hits. Wait, second highest. That's fucking crazy. It's remarkable that this team won 11 games. Like it really is. And basically their defenses held a lot of it together. Herbert's been good, but since Joel went down, they basically just been like a bottom 10 offense. Like every stat, they're like 27th, 29th, 27th points per drive, yards per play, all that stuff. They just like have not been good and their defense had been really, really rock solid. They have some really good gritty wins this year. But you know, this is a very interesting test of like, I trust Herbert. I believe in Herbert. I think Herbert's really good. I don't think they have the horses and I think New England is really, really rock solid. Um, and this is the one game where I actually do think I'm not sure I believe in the Chargers. Dude, the Chargers are going to be on their seventh or eighth left tackle in this game. Like they have four left. All their, all their offense, the lemon were good or hurt and all the ones who are bad are healthy. Like the, I, the, obviously, Rishan Slater got hurt at left tackle. They were like, maybe Joe Alt left tackle, but then it's like, they were like, Trey Pimpkins can play left tackle and he got hurt. And then like Jamari Salyer, I can't pronounce it, I got hurt, but like that they're down four left tackles. So they're trying to find, and then they keep playing guys that are unplayable and they bench him. It's like they traded for Trevor Penning and they immediately benched him. They tried playing Bobby Hart who hadn't played there in years and they benched him and then like Austin Deculas. Chargers fans are like going to treat Austin Deculas like Ravens fans are going to treat Tyler Luke. Like, like he, they blame the entire season on him, but it's like, I am open to the Chargers winning this game, but part of me is just, Bill Simmons has his gambling manifesto. I don't know if a rule there is don't bet on teams who've had seven left tackles and 17 games, but I mean, there's nothing. I could hear. There are literally the worst offensive line in football and they're in the playoffs, which is just completely bizarre. Yeah. There was like moments during the year where they just had to abandon any hope of making a pass play and they just like were having Herbert run it immediately. They're just like, just get out of there. Just go. It looks like you dropped just Robert on Steelers offenses with Rothesberger, except he can move. But they're like, it's crazy unlimited. They are, but yeah, no. I was reading. There was a piece in the athletic by Daniel Popper on Harbaugh. Did you guys know that he hangs three signs up in the locker room? Oh, it's more than that. It's fucking, there's so many signs there. It's crazy. Wow. I don't know. Daniel Popper says he's kept. We're sorry in the locker room. Yeah. Sorry. The weight room had 12. I took a picture. Take that up with Popper. Sorry. Popper's great. Harbaugh, the three signs in the locker room, one of them says in all caps, bringing it home arrow together. Another one says TED there every day. And then the third one, did you know this that he has a rankings? Harbaugh has a rankings in the locker room on the wall and it's called the block of granite award. Love that. And it's, and he and his staff have developed a mathematical formula to determine the team's MVP and the first place finisher gets a trophy with a literal rock on it. And the next five players get smaller trophies of smaller rocks. That's how the real MVP should work. Yeah. I don't know. It was just like the whole article was just every single player. Who is the rock of granite right now? I don't know if they've given it out. Oh, they give it out at the end. I'm not sure. Every player was just like Harbaugh's the best. I would run through a wall for this guy. He's out of his mind. He loves us so much. He motivates us so much. It's the high school recruiting stars on the guys lockers. And then the other one, what I confused with the weight room, I was walking by because they were like outdoor because it's like, you know, it's near LAX. And I could, I've never seen so many signs in a weight room. There's like a lot of reading material. It looks like a college like the color of your urine. No, it's like it's like very elaborate quotes. Yeah. It's like it's like a lot of reading. And then I asked players about them and they're like, oh, they're kind of high. I can't really see them. And I'm like, what is going on? I want to know who gets the block of granite award. If it's not fucking Justin Herbert. He is a block of granite. I I got I wouldn't vote for him Herbert for MVP, but I still think if you took all the quarterbacks off their teams in week one that the Chargers would lose the most games that they won. Chargers offensive line 31st in pressure rate since week nine. I yeah, the Patriots are winning this game. I'm sorry. It's just going to be really hard. Also, the Patriots have Milton Williams back. They're good defensive linemen. The middle game on Sunday is 4 30 p.m. Eastern 130 Pacific is the Niners are at the Eagles, which is just a giant. Like, wow, these games used to be a lot cooler a couple of years ago. I still think this game is cool. I'm actually very excited to watch this game because I feel like you say that and then you watch the Eagles. What was this time you were excited to watch an Eagles game is months ago. That's fair. That's fair. I do kind of like the 49ers in this game. This is a total gut thing. It's like on paper. Everything would go against that because number one, I think the injuries are the big thing for the 49ers. Obviously, they're missing two of their best defensive players, but Trent Williams still not practicing as of Wednesday. His status is looking up in the air. Ricky Pearsall doesn't look like he's going to play. He re-agurated his injury. That those PCL injuries are horrific like Pearsall, man. Yeah. Been a tough year for him. Also related to the injury situation, I saw this is a prelude to the actual analysis of the game, but did you guys see this conspiracy going around Twitter these days? I think we've talked about this in the past, but They have an electrical. There's an electrical like interchange, whatever, electrical substation right next to the practice. So it's like did you live under power lines as a kid kind of deal? Like they are according to this guy, uh, Pat Peter Cohen, who kind of like tracks all this stuff, like the injuries for the 49ers. They're like more is a magnitude worse than every other team over the last like basically since moving to Levi's stadium in 2014. They've had like so many more injuries than everyone and the theory is the thesis like bone density issues because it's like electromagnetic electromagnetic fields apparently according to Peter Cohen, which I think it this is not necessarily fact. There's some people that would dispute this, but it can degrade collagen, weakened tendons, cause soft tissue damage. Basically, it's like they're practicing inside a Bluetooth earbud. You know what I mean? Like people are worried about these earbuds and interfering with your brain. Like the 49ers are practicing in a Bluetooth earbud, which is your nightmare. Yeah. Yeah, they can't get it to fucking connect. It's one of those things where you're like, if you hear like 50 theories like that, you're like, I know that five of these are true, but I don't know which five and I like the players started this. I don't think fans are the players were joking about it and George Kittle said that they've been joking about it for years and it's like kind of gone on longer than they thought. I like it. I'm in. Of course, 100% in. It's anti Bluetooth. I'm pretty sure there's no data to suggest this bad for you, but maybe there is also you look at the chargers. The chargers are right next to LAX. Honestly, like worse air quality in the world. Who knows what's going on? Just being coded. Because before when they were in San Diego, they were fine. They were great. They were doing great. The I don't know. I just the Niners. I mean, speaking of the inches that did the Niners front seven so decimated, dude, I mean, they started the year with Fred Warner's like the best linebacker in the NFL and now they're going to have. Frickin Eric Kendrick's is going to play for the Niners in this game, which blows my mind because he was so washed like even two years ago for Dallas. Like he was on 2021. He got Mike Zimmer like like like he couldn't play in 2021 and then somehow was playing 2023. The idea that Eric Kendrick's will play a playoff game for the Niners in 2026 now is insane. Uh, like they're down four defensive linemen, five defensive linemen. They're playing guys that the Patriots basically cut starting. I don't know if Lane Johnson comes back for that left or right tackle. I just feel like the Eagles offensive line is not what it was, but I think it's still enough to road grade the fricking Niners front seven. I don't know. I just, I just maybe I'm just having a way to face the Eagles. The 49ers defense is really not good right now, but the four, I still believe in the 49ers offense. I think Brock pretty is obviously going to be a huge key in this game. I think if he's sneakier than he's ever been sneaky in this game in terms of just running around and making plays. I also just have a ton of faith in Kyle Shanahan. I know there's a bunch of stats going around about how bad he's been against Fangio, but this was like with different quarterbacks. Shannon's never scored 15 versus Fick Fangio's defense, but also the quarterbacks were like John Beck and Nick Mullins and Jimmy G and like washed Archie three. So it's like, I just think it feels like we're forgetting how good the 49ers were like a month before the month prior to losing to the Seahawks. And now everyone's like, Oh, they suck. I'm just like, man, I still am pretty afraid of the 49ers in terms of like what they can do on offense. They're very good. Um, what Shanahan can do in scheming up. I don't have a ton of faith in what the Eagles are going to do on offense. Even though they're playing a bad defense this week. Um, I don't know. I just like the 49ers. This is a total gut thing. They'll probably get their ass kicked, but I just like the 49ers. We don't have to bet on this, but I like the 49ers. We do. We do have to bet on it. Unfortunately. Okay. Well, we can bet against them if you want, but I just can't believe the Niners could have been the one seed if they just won the last week of the season, I still can't get over that. They were scoring like 40 points a game for the like the previous four or five games. They were just absolutely on a tear. Um, no one was playing better than them for like the month prior to that Seahawks game. And then now we're just like, eh, they suck. Uh, that's fair. I think, I think, uh, my trouble with this game is I'm starting to have trouble being objective because I want the Niners to win so bad, but I think I deep down in my soul. Like I think the Eagles are going to win. And as much as I don't want to watch the Eagles, I do think this team is kind of built to work in the playoffs. And I think from a talent perspective, they're way better. And I'm like, man, they can drag this Niners team down into the muck. And this is going to be the ugliest game ever and they can win 20 to 13. They're healthier, which helps a lot. They're getting Lane Johnson back. Um, yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, they took a game off to rest up. It's, are there, are there two teams where tackle makes you care more about missing the game than Trent Williams and Lane Johnson for the Eagles and Niners, but yeah, I just kind of come back to the Eagles or just they're bow or they're just the Python. They're just going to squeeze the life out of the Niners. But I mean, I would also, the Niners are way more fun to watch, play football and it would be cooler if they advanced. Move your, move your practice facility away from this electrical grid thing. It's so funny because like conspiracy theories like that, like 19 out of 20, I'm like, that's stupid. But every now and then I try to be humble and remember shit like Marie Curie was like handling fucking radium with her hands. Yeah. And I'm like, you know, who knows what we were drinking out of fucking lead cups to whatever. Have you seen the Spider-Man meme of like, it's like my grandfather with asbestos with asbestos and my parents with lead and me with my microplastics. And there's two, there's they used to put fucking sandboxes full of asbestos. Come on. New York Times had this thing that they think there's like four to five pounds of plastics in our, that will be in our bodies by the end of our lives. Like that. My God. Like there will be like half. Seems fine. It's. Anyway. On that note, I have a question for you guys. So wait, Craig, this last game here is money to football, the Houston Texans at the Pittsburgh Steelers, the division champion, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. Um, look, this is everyone's on the Steelers right now. Are they makes me nervous? Yeah. I think a lot of people are like, name three. I think this is the natural progression of Pittsburgh. Every time they win a good game, they usually lose a bad one right after it. And when, when they blow the game to the Browns, everyone's like, the Steelers suck. And then they go and they beat the Ravens. And now it's like, Oh, the Steelers, oh, they're at home. They haven't lost a Monday night football game since the George HW Bush administration, which is true, even though they technically did in the pandemic, there was a game on Monday that they lost in Pittsburgh, but it was, it was moved to Monday because of COVID and it was at 2pm Pacific. So Monday afternoon. So it wasn't Monday night football, but they did lose on Monday in, in. How many games are we talking here total? Uh, they're in terms of the Monday night. It was 23 and oh, I think last 23. Oh, that's actually pretty, pretty good. Yeah. But, um, pretty good. What do you mean? Pretty good. That the best season in NFL history is like 19 straight games. That's the, that Dolphins. 20. That's good. I said it. It's good. Yeah. And again, and also they, they, they did lose. It's like five. It's like totally different iterations of the team. They did lose in 2020. What I saw that I was like, what are we doing? They lost in 2020 at home on a Monday. That's a loss. I know, but the odds of winning 23 straight games are fucking infant. They didn't. What's the odds of winning 24 straight? They didn't win 23 straight. They're fucked. Um, yeah. Look, analytics aside, I'm kind of just like, I'm terrified of the Houston defense and the Baltimore defense was terrible and DK, Mac, half coming back is great. I love the DK Mac half memes that he was posting after the Steelers beat the Ravens and made the playoffs like that. He's free and he's like getting out of jail. I love that. That was great. Uh, did you see that? He tried to like get dressed and go down to the stadium. Yes. So like celebrate with the team after the win and then everybody is like walking home like fucking sad. The Michael Sarah meme. If him walking home with his head down. Yeah. Um, yeah, man. I don't know. I think the spread of this game, I think has dropped to three. I think the Texans were favored by three and a half. Now it's three. Um, I don't know. I'm nervous. I think no one, the Texans have quietly won nine straight games and I think there's like a lot of fun storylines around the Steelers from myself included. Like I, I'm super happy they made it. I think Rogers is playing really well. All that good stuff. I'm terrified that they're playing Houston and it's the Houston's never won a playoff game on the road in the history of the Texans. They've never won a playoff game on the road. So it's like all that stuff playing in Pittsburgh. You know, I don't know. I'm just very nervous for the, for the Houston defense. This is totally outside of perspective and I don't actually really know what's happening in the locker room, but it feels like a very smug point of view from the Steelers players because people were saying Tomlin should get fired earlier. There's like almost like a little bit like you're putting the cart before the horse. Like you still got to win some playoff games here. Like isn't the main thing that people were really upset about with Tomlin was like, you can't win in the playoffs over the last however many years. What, how long has it been since like 2016? Since the 2016 coming up in 10 years. It's technically 2017. So like I, this is totally narrative based, but like it feels like everyone's like, fuck you for ever saying anything about Tomlin. I'm like, Tomlin still has to win a playoff game. Like we're still, we're still where we were before. How about this? What he does all the time? The Ravens were so bad this season that John Harbaugh was fired. Right. And they still had a 44 yard field goal to the Tyler loop. You see guys, you guys see the meme. It was like the Tyler loop kick and it was like on the left side. It was Harbaugh fired in between. Yeah. That's right. Craig Senate in between the uprights. It was Tomlin fired and then on the right, it's Harbaugh fired. It's like just that kick has so many like potential down the road implications. But anyways, my point is like, it feels like they're being pretty smug, especially Rogers. Rogers is always like this, you know, after a win. And I respect it. I like it actually, but I'm just like, you guys didn't actually prove anything yet. Like go win a playoff game. And I don't necessarily think this is like, I mean, like I don't trust CJ Stroud. I've been talking about him all year about how I don't trust him. So it's not like the worst matchup in the world in terms of like the offense the Steelers are facing. I probably would have rather played the Chargers, but so like, do I think the Steelers can win? Yeah. Like if Rogers could just outplay Stroud and DK Metcalfe back is a big deal. And it could work. And I think they could win 20 to 16 and Stroud looks like shit and Stroud is terrible under pressure and the Steelers could generate pressure because that Texans offensive line is not good. Like there is a roadmap to the Steelers doing Steelers stuff and winning 20 to 16. I'm just nervous on what the Steelers are going to be able to do offensively. I mean, look, the Steelers offense, they have to put six linemen on the field. They have to try to be big and get some. They have no darn on Washington, which sucks. And yeah, exactly. And they like they need Stroud to turn the ball over and like they just need to get some dumb points. But if we're being honest, I don't I'm not really interested in going into X's and O's. I want to talk to you guys about this priest and God. Where's the priest? I don't think we could talk enough about the fact that that kick was made in the end zone where the priest put the Hollywood and blessed the field. The priest storyline feels so like John Wick coated like it's somewhere in the John Wick world. And and Rod got this priest from like somewhere deep in the old country and brought him in and he blessed the field. I've done a lot of work on this priest. Is a big John Wick fan went as John Wick for Halloween. Oh, that's right. I did a lot of work on this priest. All I'll say is, Craig, question for you. Do you think that that was they the Steelers kind of used up the mere the miraculous energy already and that was used on that game? Or do you think I mean, Bill Simmons has his playoff gambling manifesto and one of the rules is don't bet against God puppies. And I'm like, we should probably discuss whether we think God is on the Steelers side or if that was kind of like a that was like just for that week. I mean, the immaculate reception was was what 50 years ago. 53. We've had God on our side since then, baby. We always got it. God hasn't been around much since 2016. The only reason why the Steelers ever win games is because of divine intervention. Like, let's be honest. Every game they've won is because of the Lord stepping in. He's like, I can only do it so much. The Lord gets us to seven. Everything is obvious. Yeah. He's very involved, actually. That's funny. Who is this priest? What's the story? Well, well, so the story. Is he a Pittsburgh priest or did they bring him in? Did they did they ship him in from Italy? I looked into it and ruined the magic for me. I don't know if you guys want me to ruin it a little for you. Is he like a don't tell me he's like a paid actor or something. No, no, no, he's a real priest. He's like a Vegas priest. He can marry you. I also does Elvis. I'm going to ruin this for everybody. That'd be so funny if he was like a paid actor. They do this for every game. Oh, do they? Oh, that's funny. This is what I'm saying. Fifty years. God, there you go. When it works, it works. God's been there, baby. Yeah, they started the magic. No, but apparently it was the interesting part to me is it was a sub priest. So it's St. Vincent and the Troop where they do the training camp. I guess it's a private Catholic college and they like have but they have a relationship spiritually like, you know, the priest and the team. But it was the backup priest who did it, which is part that interests me. It's not a huge guy. But you're he's getting wall. The first guys getting wally pipped. This guy's coming. They're bringing this guy back. Are we sure that first priest is good? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. This is Ewing theory. We trade it up for that guy. Priest Ewing theory. We trade a first for him. I don't know where the trail is. Brock Purry situation. The droop let's so priests. So my god, that's really good. We're going to go with we're going to go with the backup today, guys. Want to sit you all down and talk about it. We joke, but if the Steelers beat the Texans, then like that first priest is never coming back. Like what are they going to do? Swap priests. Look, in my soul, my gut says that the Steelers are going to win this game, which terrifies me. And I need to know that it's because I'm I'm getting too swept up in the hoop law of last week. And this is what the Steelers do is especially in the playoffs as we know. But I do think in my in my heart of hearts, I think they're going to win. The younger me would have said that the Houston Texans defense is going to absolutely dominate the Steelers and the Steelers have no chance. DK, you're the wisest of all. I'm curious. My current version feels and I I'm half kidding, but I have actually believing this stuff. I think if the priests from last week shows up, the Steelers win. And if the old priest shows up, I think the Steelers lose. I think that's how we really should decide it. You should bet a ton of money based on how it shows up. You said the old me, the younger you would have picked the Texans because they have a fucking good defense on right. So it's the bell curve thing. That's how it fits as a young man. I'm on the other end of the bell curve. I'm looking at the Texans and saying they have a fucking good defense and they're going to absolutely strangle like anything the Steelers try to do on offense and it's going to come down to how how many turnovers to CJ Stroudmaker or whatever. I'm picking the Texans in this one. I don't feel strongly about it. But I do feel strongly that the Texans have by far the best unit in this game. That doesn't always matter, obviously. And they're on the road in Pittsburgh. The vibes are high in Pittsburgh, whatever. I'm betting on the steel. I'm betting on the Texans defense. That's all you know what it is. I think you're in all seriousness. I think you're right, DK, because if you just turn that game off after Steelers ran, you fell asleep at the third quarter and just were like didn't watch any of the highlights. You would just remember that the Steelers went six quarters without a touchdown for the first time in Aaron Rodgers' career. And that two weeks ago versus the Browns, the Steelers had six points and it's going to be like that. I kind of think yes, the Steelers could win because crazy shit happens, but I kind of don't think the Steelers even score a fucking touchdown. It might be on the table here. This is such a cliche. I know it is a cliche, but it's going to be like, can Rodgers pull a fucking rabbit out of the hat? This is what I'm saying. This is why I'm like I'm terrified of this Houston defense. And yet, you know, he's done it before. He's done it before. This is every fucking Steelers game. Every Steelers game is like, man, on paper doesn't look good. And then they win. I know, but also sometimes they lose. On paper. It's like the priest thing. And then also sometimes it just doesn't work. Especially in the damn playoffs. So it's like, it's why my initial take was like, I'm terrified of the Houston defense and it might be a disaster and yet deep, deep down somewhere in me, I think the Steelers are going to win. But that might just because I'm getting swept up in the all the fun of last week. Well, with that said, I think we got to get it. So we have some emails here. I want to run some stuff by you, but we got to do this ringer one of seven. So today's ringer one of seven sports by Fandil. We're in this competition with all the other ringer podcasts about who we are picking five bets against the spread each week or now, but all the playoff games. So now it's all the playoff games each week. And after the regular season, our RTR squad somehow first place. We're in first. We're in first. We're I promise that we have spent the least amount of time doing this as any other group in this battle. And we are shockingly somehow barely in first place. So we let you just go beginning to end. We got to pick every single one of these games. You want to just start with Rams Panthers and work our way down? Yeah, sure. Rams Panthers, the Rams are favored by 10 and a half. It's in Carolina. It's a tough line. It's a tough line. If my life dependent on like me getting this right, part of me wonders if I'd take the Panthers. But if I think we just look dumber taking the Panthers and losing, I think this game is going to be like 24 to three. I think a stupid analysis is the fact that it comes down to they the Rams played the Panthers before and they're mad. I kind of want to just lay the points with the Rams and then be mad at Sean McFay if they can't cover. I agree. I think it should be Rams 10 and a half. It's a everyone's going to be on that. But yes, I agree. The Packers are playing in Chicago. The Packers are favored by a point and a half on the road. I just like Green Bay. I like Chicago. I wanted Green Bay and I did think they were going to get points. You could argue that that makes me think that maybe the bear should be or the better bet. DK, what do you I kind of think the Packers win, but it's it's it's gut. But I agree. The bear is going to be able to run. I'm willing to be overruled. Well, DK, whichever way you swing, I'm happy to pick the price. This is so hard. Who do we want a route for? I'm OK. Just be a wait. We maybe in the future rounds will like let my fucking cat pick and just see what he picks this. Yeah, I feel like this is really hard because my gut says the pack. The bears are going to be able to run on the Packers and they'll be able to control the game that way. But the Packers offense against the Bears defense scares me. I don't know who wins in that in that little argument. So I think. I think I want to go. I think I want to go with the Bears. OK, we could just take the Bears covering and then we have a little bit of leeway. One point. Yeah. Right. Well, the way the Bears game. They could lose my one. We could still win. That's very true. That's very true. All right. Well, Penn will pencil that in. Yeah. The next game, the bills are playing the Jags in Jacksonville and the bills are favored by one and a half points. I want the Jags getting points. If you guys want to be like, don't be all fucking fancy, Josh, I'm the best player in the world. But like if I mean, if we can quantify quarterback play with fantasy points, the fact that Trevor went to the most fantasy points ever in the fantasy football playoffs, it's kind of interesting. Yeah, I'm OK taking the Jags if you want to. Yeah. Josh, Sean is a foot injury, which he's going to play. But the fact that he has to be a super, he has to be a superhero, Sergeant, whatever, and band of brothers running through the village. And I don't know. I just. I agree. I mean, everyone is going to be on Green Bay. I mean, sorry, Jacksonville. Should I ask my cat? Yes, your cat. Is everyone going to be on Jacksonville? I don't know. I think so. I think I don't. Josh Allen doing well. It matters. We haven't we haven't asked that question once all year and we're in first place. All right. Well, that there were 16 games to choose from now. There's six, but yeah, fuck that. That makes a huge. It makes a huge difference if we're all choosing the same games. But if I want to guess what people would pick, I wouldn't have picked that Salon de Bondo picked the Saints like eight times this year. I wouldn't have thought that one time. If you had if your life was on the line, would you still take the Jax? Yeah, I think there's such a better team and I think Josh is a rate. I think the bills are I mean, dude. All right, the bills run game fucking saw the run defense sucks, dude. All right, we'll take the Jax. I guess my life on the line. Josh Allen is pretty scared. I don't feel great about this, but yeah. All right, you want to get bills? No, I mean, look, I also think the Jax are going to win. Or that's like my if nothing's on the line, I would take. Well, well, we could Costanza and it's like a calculated Costanza because I feel really strongly about it. You want to go bills? I don't want to talk about Costanza yet. Let's let's do let's pencil and Jags now and keep moving. Okay. Niners Eagles. This game's in Philly. The Eagles are favored by four and a half. DK likes the Niners. I like the Eagles. My guts Eagles. I would just go Eagles. Just go Eagles. Okay. Chargers at New England. The Patriots are favored by three and a half. I'm probably thinking New England. Yes. I yeah, definitely. And then Texans and then here we go Monday night with discount double check. Texans at Steelers in Pittsburgh. The Steelers are three point underdogs. Texans. Come on. Take it. Come on. What do I mean? I think the Texans but well then I'm a doesn't matter what I think so Rams who do Rams Bears Jags Eagles Patriots Texans. Yeah. How many underdogs do we have? We're taking bears taking the Jags. Jags technically just bears and Jags. Otherwise it's favorites. Yeah. Part of me thought we just take all six dogs. Theoretically we could take the Steelers and the Texans could still win. Obviously this is a small margin for error but it's going to be a it's going to be a low score in close game probably right. We've joked all year we would take one of our weeks to just flip all our picks. So if we do that we'd be taking the Panthers plus ten and a half. Well hold on. Plus ten and a half. The Panthers plus ten and a half the Packers minus one and a half the Bills minus one and a half the Niners plus four and a half the Chargers plus three and a half in the Steelers plus three. I don't actually hate it. The reason why I didn't want you to bring up Costanzo because I thought going into this that this might I was like I want to earnestly pick who we think is going to win and then potentially just pull out the spatula and flip the whole thing. This is what I wrote down. Those are all the pick we we the initial batch we get on is everything I wanted to take except I wanted Packers over bears but I want you guys know I feel really strongly about the picks we agreed on initially. So maybe we that let's flip it to and you want to flip it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. It's fun. The one the what flipping it just just the opposite of what we think. Yeah or or hear me out. What if we just take all dogs. So what would that look like so that would be Panthers plus ten and a half. Then we get the Bears at home that we get the Jags at home. We get the Steelers at home and then we take the Niners and the Chargers. I I do the bills oldest gambling rules don't take an underdog on the in the playoffs unless you like think they can win outright and I somehow I'm more comfortable with ten and a half of the Panther. I I don't want the Steelers. I'm literally allergic. I'm like getting allergic reaction. We have to take taking the Steelers versus the Texans. I've watched the Texans so many times this year where I'm like the idea of taking the Steelers to beat the Cover the Texans gives me an allergic reaction. Aaron Rodgers is going to have like a 75 year touchdown to Derek to DK MacF on like the first drive and then we're going to be like fuck. I kind of love the idea. Stroud's going to go three and out look like shit. You know what you know what the funny part of like maybe our original thing would go four and two and these would go two and four but it would be so funny if all the other teams put so much effort in their picks we pick six and like five minutes and they're like you know what it's probably the opposite just fucking flip it and then we do the best. So what do we want do we want the dogs or do I have to flip or do we want the original. What do you think you can. Oh my God. We kind of want the flip. We were talking about doing it all fucking I want to we got to do it. We got to just do it. Let's do the flip. So the flip we're taking the Steelers you know that. Oh fuck. This is a good compromise. It's a good compromise. You want to do the flip and keep Houston. That's tempting. That's tempting fate. It is. You can't do that because that's not the flip. You can't do the fucking flip and it's not the flip and choose. We want to save the flip for next week. No there's no tomorrow fresh fucking Yolo. I agree. I'm with you can flip it. All right. So flipping is Panthers Packers Bills Niners Chargers Steelers. I it makes me so nervous but whatever it you know what the implication of being of being like I don't want to flip implies that we know what the fuck we're talking about. What was our record this year in first place. We're one below 500. So whatever we literally we just flipped a coin the whole year. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Fuck it. Whatever. It's funny because we go three and three. Yeah. All right. Today's finger one of seven was brought to you by Fandall odd subject to change. Okay. I want to do a couple. I've never had more fun. Oh that was a great one. Wow. What are you emails with you guys for we get out of here one. DK loves palindromes didn't know that. I'm super into palindromes super into palindromes. The favorite one my favorite one someone sent was from Daniel. This is the same forward and bowling debone Tulsa nightlife filth gin a slut. Nice. That's up there. That's up there with a man a plan a canal Panama. Yeah. I think that one Tulsa nightlife filth gin a slut. It's pretty good. Daniel also said that we weird owl has a song called Bob where he does a Bob Dylan impression and the entire song is about every line is a palindrome. Oh that's really good. Wow. Because that sounds just like the way he sings to us Bob Dylan. I mean it's it's really good. It's my friend going in the wind. Dude Austin Gale who works with us here at the ringer is a huge Bob Dylan fan and Craig just casually when the movie came out was like yeah Bob Dylan you know obviously his voice is terrible and I Austin fucking freaked out. He was obviously amazing and then he came back to the next day and flipped out your mouth. He was so conflicted. He's like I didn't sleep last night. I think unfortunately Craig you're right. Bob Dylan doesn't have a good voice but that's not what it's about. It's like an existential crisis. It's not what it's about. He's a brilliant songwriter but he doesn't have a great voice. I actually think it makes him better. There's he's not the only one. He's not the only really famous singer. Well Austin within while you guys were argue because like you guys are yelling. Austin was like his voice. Well you think like Springsteen voice as good voice voice sucks and then quietly you guys didn't notice I was like oh my God does British Springsteen with a bad voice and then I went back that night. I listen to springsteen like fuck his songs all kind of sound the same shit. I mean look that's not what it's about. Maybe maybe bad singers are better songwriters Taylor Swift. I would say is not the most impressive vocalist. She's a really good writer for the best take you've probably ever had on the show which is stop letting hot people make music. You ever heard Bob Dylan sing a song. Yeah Tom Waits sing being. The doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Yeah so you know it is what it is. I think the fact that like shall make it just waltz in and just immediately do a fucking perfect Bob Dylan impression lets you know something. It's not that hard. Do you guys think that Johnny Cash is a good singer. Voice yeah I think his voice is just incredible. I don't know if he's a good singer but I listen to I was I think he's a better singer than Dylan. I was driving home this morning and you know the song it ate me babe. Yeah. I was just like the it's a harmonizing harmonizing with June Carter I think and it's like I was just like man he is just really mail in the Senate sounds different time. It's probably just drunk off his ass. It ain't me. He's like it ain't me. You're looking. I almost feel like he just wasn't trying but he didn't have a good voice. Yeah I don't to be clear I don't think he has a bad voice. I just think in that song I was just like man he's really just this is not his best work. Yeah I don't know maybe he doesn't have that good of a voice well speaking of speaking of singing voices the other thing we talked about last episode was we're talking about that song losing control where it's like any Craig can you do an impression. Losing control but Teddy swims I lose control or I'm not I'm not doing that. So people know what one time Craig is like no I'm not doing it because I can't do it. I don't want to do it. Actually it's impossible to sing it's really hard. Well so we Craig was saying I hate that. I hate like no I'm not doing it either. But lose control. Yeah and then Craig's like I hate that song so we got two answers about this that I think are good one is from a friend Jackson Bevan's yes cigar. I be who texted us and said my theory is that Craig hates lose control by Teddy swims because it reminds him as he said of beautiful beautiful things by Benson Boone and Craig hates Benson Boone and that reminds him of Steph Curry Craig's hero fan girl in the front row of the Benson Boone concert which is the only time in Craig's life. It's all made him cringe and I texted back that's probably right. It's like the transitive property. Yeah I think I thought about it more we texted more and I think it all kind of like trickles down to Bruno Mars and I think I think the genre that I'm calling it is it's mom rock and I think it that's more it's more Benson Boone and Bruno Mars and it is Teddy swims but it's something about it's like songs that you can you can enjoy the song enough you can sing along to it's kind of like wedding music a little bit. It's like you can't say that's your favorite you know what I mean. It's mom rock so it's okay. It's like one of those songs everyone knows but it's no one's favorite. Well there's mom rock and then there's the voice thing so many milled in Jesse Emelden said it was talent show songs which I also thought is something. Well another song that I don't like is James Blunt your beautiful hate that song beautiful and I think it's kind of in that same range. It's like flexing the vocals. Yeah I don't crack that after we got off the show yesterday I was just like I think the songs that you don't like are the ones where the singer tries to put their finger to their ear when they're getting all the different. Yeah. Optives and it's often man. We were in high school I tried I tried singing it was there's that what's the one direction where it's like that's what makes you beautiful or whatever I they were like trying to sing that and I thought they were talking about the other song that you just mentioned James Blunt so I went beautiful and I can't say anyway and they literally don't they still bring it up. That's really funny constantly because I they're like they and then I was like no I was thinking of the other one and they just were like you're a fucking moron. That's a way you chose the way harder song to sing. Yeah well it didn't work but so here's my question for you what about like Shabuzy where it's. Party now on 6th Street. Yeah that mom rock because that's not a common then I'm gonna shot a whiskey. Yeah I would say this test that's pop. It's a show bro. It's a sub genre of like mom pop rap mom pop because it's not true country pop rap because it's not highlighting his voice you know what a funny thing I've learned is right. My dad like like anyone gets you know his musical taste was locked in whenever he's how old and then you like stop learning music. Yeah. And he's he's older and what's funny is so he's a dentist but they I never realized this but he's radio in the office and they have Bluetooth whatever and so they actually listen to a lot of music. So I never realized this but my dad's musical taste now includes he loves that fucking song and he can sing every word Shabuzy it came on and we were there and he knew every word to say I love this one has a party done on 6th Street like what the fuck is going on a bar song a bar dude my dad was like have you heard of this a Veechie guy. Play that have I heard of a Veechie father he raised me more than you did. Okay. He was just like you know that what's that one it goes like hey brother. Great song. I know I don't think there's a word out there to rediscover great. I don't actually know that one. I mean I recognize it but I'm not you probably recognize the drop. You're raised in the lower now. That's really interesting but yeah there is a I don't know what the genre is exactly but I'm I'm I'm Mom Rock is my loose name for modern Yacht Rock Shabuzy is a little different Mom Rock is there's something to it keep emailing us and we figure out a genre name for this Mom Rock is pretty good though. One last email for you guys Jesse this is from Jesse Jesse on a J. J. Dogging flights so obviously we made DK last year losing the picks contest we made him raw dog the flight and hit us at middle seat between us from New Orleans to Los Angeles middle seat no entertainment had to just stare straight ahead couldn't sleep could use his phone couldn't listen to music nothing. You got off the plane and you were like I reorganized my entire life I reprioritize what kind of man what kind of husband what kind of father I want to I did I'm a better lot there yeah and I was like do you would you ever do it again he was like absolutely not. Once a decade. So anyway Jesse emailed us and said I need to the podcast complete thoughts on I can't pronounce again Ruben Austin's upcoming movie the entertainment system is down is the name of the movie the entertainment system is down the log line of the movie is set on a long haul flight where the entertainment systems fail an eclectic group of international passengers are forced to face the horror of being bored this movie has Keanu Reeves I mean this guy not name it raw dogging raw dog marketing lost that one what is Keanu Reeves is raw dog they really fucked up to Kirsten Dunst and Keanu Reeves and cousin Greg from Succession in this movie. My God cousin Greg yeah this guy's made like really weird movies like did you ever see Triangle of Sadness. No I think I heard the title was like not for me. It's it's it's like a bunch of rich people are on a boat in the boat like crashes and it's basically like a Lord of the flies vibe. He made that movie the square that's interesting I did not know about this movie I love that the title is the entertainment system is down is the name of the book. That sounds great I'm all in on that. Wait who's Nicholas Braun he's cousin Greg cousin Greg oh I see okay 68 got it. Okay I think that's all we got. Oh wait I have I you guys probably saw this in the group text weeks ago I've been waiting been waiting for that I watched Lord of the Rings over the break and I like a moron and I logged in on Letterbox forgetting that Austin Gale is on Letterbox and follow me and of course he like flies into the group and he's like all caps Craig you watch Lord of the Rings like you moron it's supposed to be a surprise and he saw it on Letterbox but I watched them with with Liz her two brothers her dad and her sister they're all and and her mom they're all super into Lord of the Rings. They all look her brothers have seen Lord of the Rings more than any movie ever they've probably seen them upward upwards of they actually asked them they took 10 minutes to think about it they think they've seen them about 75 times each. We didn't have them on the Lord of the Rings and his most rewatchable Mike they're certainly the most rewatched movies of our lifetime is 75 that's up there it's not even close to the most rewatched movies. Bill's never seen them so he can't make his list truth watchable but I watched them back to back to back one right in a row not not one day one each night did you take notes each day. I didn't take notes. He's like I'm trying to enjoy my life. I honestly yes I was like I want to enjoy the movie I'm not going to take notes. Yeah, I wanted to kind of sit in it. I really enjoyed them I really like them I thought they were great I totally get the hype I think they very much delivered like I of course I can see why they are so beloved. I think my biggest takeaway was how influential you can tell the story is to so many things that came after I know these books were written like 100 years ago and like you can see Lord of the Rings and like Star Wars Avengers Indiana Jones obviously Game of Thrones is a lot there with George R. Martin it's just crazy I mean it's basically like the modern Western story of like the hero's journey is great I have like smaller takes if you want to if you want me to give you those of course I would I have this poke this pod can go as long as I want I don't give a fuck. Yeah clear schedule hold on what first question I really just am genuinely curious which one did you like the most the second one. Okay yeah the two buildings and the two buildings that makes a lot of sense how deep my battle if I had to rank them I would go to 3 1. Oh you're the one the least I like one the most I agree this beginning of one is slow and if you didn't read the books I think it's kind of like I love it I want to live in the shire I I loved every moment of the shire I don't know I just love number one but I mean obviously they're all good now I'm with Craig to 3 1 is my order as well to 3 1 is my is my order yeah 1 2 3 I'm usually like the bit about me is like I think we should be shorter I don't think these should be shorter like honestly it's it's a tremendous build up and like you almost need to feel exhausted like with Frodo on the journey and by the time you're done you're like Jesus Christ we did it we did it we did it together yeah you climb Mount Doom yes I didn't realize how big of a character Samwise Gange is I like Gange I thought I don't know why I thought Sean asked them was a smaller part of those movies loved him. I don't understand the legolas hype I don't understand why Orlando Bloom like that was a big deal I felt like that character was the least explored and he's not like that cool or funny me he's like a great you know archer or whatever but like Borbier and Aragorn like all those guys are way cooler and more interesting to me and I was talking about this with Liz and we're like why did Orlando Bloom and Legolas become so popular and we were like because I think I mean Vigo Mortensen in those movies more perfect way more attractive than yeah then Orlando Bloom but the only difference is like Vigo Mortensen is I don't know pushing 40 maybe in the movie and I wonder if it's like you know young girls and young people are like Orlando Bloom's like 22 you got a young guy Pirates of the Caribbean came out which after that but yeah there were a lot but I feel like Orlando Bloom made seven movies and made like a hundred million dollars or something but like they were like every year it was coming out but it was cooler though like I remember I was telling someone they're jacked the other day and I was like oh it's so cool about Legolas and like him and Gimli or Tucker like they're doing the count of how many people they're killing during and then they were doing it and it was one of those like you're like oh you like like this and then she was just staring I'm like oh this isn't as fun as in the books he's just to me like by far the least interesting character I think in the movies they didn't like he doesn't have like a ton of dialogue like he doesn't talk all that much there's all you know like there's like these funny things on Instagram and stuff that it's like here's every moment that two women talk to each other in the movie and it's like where's mother and it's like that's it in the entire three movies it's like a little kid but it's there's kind of that kind of to with Legolas like he just doesn't talk to like half the characters I think he talks to Aragorn a few times and that's about it. He barely talks to Frodo the entire Hobbit dies and God. Yeah, I will say though I think and maybe this is wrong but I think people are just fascinated with the elves. I think the elves are super cool. You know like they live forever. He's an elf king or a prince and he like lives in the wood. He's like all that stuff. I think it's cool and like he's very cool character in the books. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's funny because you know, there were times when I would pause and then ask a couple of questions and what Jake one of my brother-in-law said he was like, you know, it's been so long since I've ever watched this with somebody who hasn't seen them before and I he's they've read all the books. They know them so well. He was like they actually really don't hold your hand too much in these movies like there is a lot in there and like there's I forget if it's in the first or second movie where Frodo and Sam throw the cloak over themselves. I think it's on Mount Doom and the cloak like looks like a rock and disguises them. They don't tell you why that happens or why that's there. Why he has that and Jake's like, oh, yeah, there's like a whole thing in the book about that or like elf magic. Yes, or like the Eagles that that Gandalf jumps on that saves him. He's like they that's just not explained in the movies at all and I was like, what's up with this? You know magical eagle. He's like, oh, yeah, right. That's like more in the books and he was like, I guess I didn't realize that which I kind of respect that they don't hand like walk you through and describe expositionally what every single thing is in the movie. And that's why Game of Thrones is popular. Like I mean Game of Thrones, you could watch it as a just show watcher is cool. But if you were the book like if you had read the books, then you knew like so much more about the show and you almost like depth. Yeah. I mean, Jason concept seals would have these like columns that grant land about like breaking down thrones and I like were I was like, I didn't know any of the ship. But Lord of the Rings was like that too. I yeah, I haven't actually read the books or Lord of the Rings, but I would watch the movies and honestly was just like, oh, look at these wolf bears killing them in the middle of the field at the wargs. Yeah. I I think yeah, that's that it is very much the similar to like the Game of Thrones thing where like it depends on how deep you want to go into it. Like you can just watch Game of Thrones and it's very entertaining or you could go do a deep dive, listen to binge mode and like find out all about how all the families are connected. They go back. They go back a thousand years. Like I feel like in the movies, you don't really know who Galadriel is and she's just like some elf woman that you don't really know that much about. But obviously in the books, she's like one of the most powerful elves of all time kind of deal. And she's like, well, she she was one of the originals that they gave the rings to the whatever the I use the ring rights like I haven't read the books in like 15 years. So I was like, all right, I didn't care much. But she's like she's like one of the older elves and she's very powerful and blah, blah, blah. So yeah, but there's like a lot that they don't specifically go into in the movies. There's also extended versions if you want to go a little different, go deeper. Yeah. And they're already starting to like come into my timeline. Also, there's so many things that like what was the phrase you just said they're taking the elves ties and garden. What do the elves ties ago? Didn't it wasn't like a song like early Internet like 2008 that became a jingle. Oh yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of there's an amazing viral video. I don't remember who made it. That was like why the fuck didn't Gandalf just fly Frodo on the eagle like the first time like that would have been so much. There's this whole conspiracy that when he says fly you fools when he's falling into the cavern, you know, he's like fly you fools. And he was like trying to say we're crossing this mountain to meet the Eagles and he's like, don't walk the whole way. No, there's a it's a conspiracy. It's not real. There's like I think Tolkien was asked about this. It didn't really happen. It's just like, why didn't they just fly? Right. Well, because it would ruin the whole fucking story. That's why. Yeah. But yeah, there's there's all these, you know, deep dives into like why why he said that because that was verbatim from the book. He says that in the book. We're going to get a 10,000 word explanation from someone on why they know I'm sure I'm fucking up a lot of it. I read the books. The ghost is screaming right now. I've heard the books and sounds like 21. So just give me a break. The reason also Craig. I think I want it. And if anyone hasn't seen like someone like Bill who's like at the very least watched the last 40 minutes of the two towers. Also the fact that Craig calls it the two buildings is the funniest thing in the entire show. But la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la the other part I was upset about you don't see Saruman's death. It just goes crunch. It's in the no no it's in the extended version. It's not in the movie. Is that really yes. Not in the theatrical cut. You don't see his death at the end of two towers. He just like walks back into the castle and that's the last you see of him. Oh, you mean the guy? No, that's you mean the oh, like the wizard guy not Saruman Saruman. He falls onto the like yeah, that is in the extended. Yeah. Don't damn am I kind of on your corner right now. I feel some kind of like I'm not talking about Sauron. I'm talking about Sauron. Okay. Right. Right. Don't fuck it up. Don't fuck it up. But yes, the meme of him like falling and getting impaled is not in the theatrical cut at all. He just walks back and then the start of the third movie. I thought there would be a like a showdown between Gandalf and Sauron that I would see and that that's not in it. Yeah, interesting. No. So now I got to watch the extend its which are legitimately four and a half hours. Wait, so you did it at the perfect time. You can't there's not really a time that's easy other than like the holidays to be like you have 12 hours. Yeah. Did you give us all your notes? I want to hear if you had any other notes. One thing that was funny. Watching with a bunch of people who had grown up with these movies and saw them when they were kids. They all hate golem and thought it was really gross and scary when they were a kid and they think the scenes are like too long. They don't need them. It's like too much. It's too much golem didn't bother me at all. I thought it was a very interesting character. I liked golem. I thought all those scenes with like them on the mountain on their trip and like I thought all that was really good and I thought they were like how many times is he have to like talk to himself like the two sides of him like it's just too much and I was into it. I when you're here and watching it and some like TNT and there's commercial breaks you're like oh my God I didn't fast forward through this. No, I would pause it. You only need to watch those scenes once. Yes. Yeah. 100% when I rewatched the movies now I fast forward those scenes. Yeah. You can't I can't like I get it. I get it. I want to be with your pals. I'm like I'm like dude. All right. We get it like it the ring is heavy like okay. We just move along here. I want to see some fucking fights and stuff. I want to fight the erokai Craig. You know what's fun now that you've seen it is it absolute one of the biggest Instagram wormholes is all the behind the scenes content of how they made these movies is amazing and like it's basically endless but the Nazgul the like guys who ride the little dragon things or whatever. The sound you know I the sound they make when they screech. Okay. Is like it's a donkey. Oh really it's a fucking dog. That's right. So when it's like it's everyone screams and runs it's like a fucking like random donkey in New Zealand made that there are some really cool force perspective stuff that like when Gandalf is in Bilbo's house in the oh yeah those are cool. They do some crazy stuff to make him look big and make Bilbo look small like there's a whole scene when he sits down at the desk to have like tea or whatever there's like the desk is cut in half and Gandalf is moving like backwards towards the camera as the cameras also moving backwards like Gandalf is dollying away from Bilbo but you can't see it on screen because the camera is moving at the same speed as Gandalf. So it's like very still it's kind of like the jaw shot a little bit. It's like is that called a smash zoom. What is that called. It's I don't think it's a smash zoom but I know you're talking but you're you're right though that it came I think a one of the one of the original movies that did it was like the jaw scene they do that a few times. Well the jaw scene is with with characters who are standing still and you basically you are zooming in on the lens as you push back on the dolly. This is a force perspective where literally Gandalf and the camera are moving backwards at the same speed but Bilbo and everybody else are staying in the background so it makes everybody look bigger but you still but the camera doesn't look like it's moving. It's fascinating. I also think just from some of the details what I love about these movies is they get so many of the details right and like as someone that read the books and then watch or whatever like watch movies at the same time. It was like oh damn they really got they spent a lot of time thinking about this that I know that they did where they made the ring like magnetic so when it fell it would just like stick to the ground like it was really heavy and like really really weighty. This is not just a fucking regular ring. Sure. I always like that stuff too. It's just cool. The videos that I feel like there are some videos that now at this point just like I slap ended up like just recirculating on my algorithm from different accounts but the same one circulate because they do well and there's to Peter Jackson the sound of all the Urichai like stomping and like how they get like an army of 30,000 he's he went to a soccer game or a rugby game in New Zealand and asked 50,000 people to fucking make a bunch of sounds and he's walks on the pitch he has no shoes on and he's just like all right everyone like we're making the movie probably her best so it's like can everyone go like this is who ha ha ha and then like everyone just starts playing who ha ha ha and he just has them make these freaking chance and I was like it actually is it's so cool and then the other one is that Boromir I forget the Ned Stark what's his name? Sean Sean Bean porgy doesn't he won't do helicopters so he had to walk up to the top of the mountain to film everything the first movie because everything up they didn't bring the makeup team up so he would have to get in makeup and full like metal armor like they have like one family make 8,000 chain link armors or something like like to real metal he to walk up this mountain every day and chain like can he get up there and they were where he was going to heart attack. Yeah makes me want to go to New Zealand also I think dude that the aerial shots when they are walking on the mountains of New Zealand are some of the most astonishing breathtaking shots of all time I love that like every 30 minutes there is just a helicopter shots sweeping through the mountains of New Zealand it is stunning. They're really there they really get fucking CGI bullshit. You don't do that anymore. When I was because like when I was 9 I watched the Oscars and they gave 12 Oscars to Lord of the Rings the third one and I was like okay cool so it's cool movies win and I wasn't how it would be. But I just thought the Oscars are cool movies. I mean they are but you know the fast and furious hasn't been rewarded. It's cool when like the movie that you loved the most and was like very successful commercially as well wins all the Oscars that's usually kind of fun. You're like I'm 9 years old like that was great like they're really nailing this. Yeah, yeah. The other thing is that it ends for like 40 minutes. There was like 11 endings in the third movie that they every time I was like wow this is the ending and then it's like and we're back. Are they getting on the boat? Yeah. All right. They're good. Now it's going to end. Also I didn't in the book. Soromon comes back it takes over the Shire right and then there's a whole battle there raising of the Shire. Yes that Mary and Pippin are like very involved in taking down Soromon in the in the Shire. Yeah the raising of the Shire I think it's called it's like it's a and in Mary and Pippin are like way bigger because they drank that water with the end water. Do you remember this? So they're like tree water right? They've like grown they've grown a bunch and so they are like they organized the defense of the Shire. That was a smart cut. There's also this whole Tom Bombadil thing that they just completely cut out of the movies that were like it's like totally pointless. My friend Matt who's my college roommate has tried to tell me of Tom Bombadil for 15 years and I'm like I'm not going to fucking listen to you talk about Tom Bombadil. The other thing Craig the other the other like wrinkle that like makes it interesting is J.R.R. Tolkien wrote the book. He wrote it as a mythology of like England. So basically England at the time he didn't think had like a mythology to it like like you know the Scandinavian countries all have a mythology blah blah blah. But he also like based on the characters and some of the story on like his experience in World War one and so like a lot of people think I think I could be getting this wrong. I think it's like a lot of people think that he based the character of Sam on his best friend in the war who had died and like anyway. So there's like layers to it. Is it true that it started. It's just a bedtime story. He told his kids and then he just kept expanding it and it was like I'll write this over the course of like 50 years and he was also like a brilliant linguist. So he like literally wrote languages of all the different beings in the book and they've got the whole he has the whole world of Middle Earth and and Valinor and all the other like the elf stuff and like the whole history of it is in the so more alien. Anyway it's very fascinating stuff but the movies I'm glad that you could watch just the movies and like it because it's like obviously there's a whole world of it too. I did it. You did it. We did it. We did it. Okay. Email the various people who are angry at us for whatever we got wrong or whatever. I did my best. Come on. I did my good. No, they're not gonna be mad at me probably. This is like when we talked about doing it because like hold up. I read Dune 20 years ago and we're trying to remember. I did not read Dune. I don't know anything about it. Emails at ringer fantasy football gmail.com for whatever you've seen dude. Send us. Yeah, I love Dune. I love both of them. This year. Next one's coming out. I have not watched the show yet. Did you watch the show? No, the show is out. There's a show that's like a alter. It's like a different story. Is that a little concerned that that's not a little. It comes out the new Dune something three comes out same day as Avengers doomsday. Is it Dune prophecy is the show? Doomsday. That's Avengers doomsday is doing the same as Dune three. Wink wink. Okay. All right. Thank you, TK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everyone for listening. Next episode on Netflix can watch it for free and Spotify. Can listen to it wherever. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Peter Jackson. Hmm. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Richard Armatidge, who sang the. Misty Mountains. Misty Mountains. Let's go. Which is from the Hobbit. Right. It's from the Hobbit movie, which is. Another whole trilogy that's, you know, based on the book, the Hobbit, but it's not as good, but it's it's still worth a watch. It's just definitely not as good. Dude, the lighting of the towers or whatever that's called moment is sick. Dude, the beacons are lit. The beacons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the beacons. Also, the there is a particular three horn score. I forget like how it's actually, I believe it's like one army. It's like there's there's sound, but there's like a three horn score that plays through all three movies that is fucking incredible. Is it the elf army? How's it go? You told me about the score, though. If you if you're DK, like you're like me where it's like, if you want to get like work done, depends what kind of work you're doing. But sometimes it's hard to like listen to music with words in it. If you're trying to get something done, it depends on what you're doing. The Lord of the Rings soundtrack, especially the first fellowship, but like the soundtracks to listen to as background music are unbelievable. Yeah, 100%. Um, you know, part of the lore or whatever like the mythology that I really like is in in J.R.R. Tolkien's version of everything. It's like he wrote it as a mythology. And so he just he basically insinuates or wrote specifically that hobbits are still around, but you just can't really see them because they're really sneaky and like just when they don't want to be seen, they don't they can't be sneaky little shits like they're sneaky like pretty Brock. Brock Purdy is basically a hobbit and that's why the hobbits were so well equipped to carry the ring because they're sneaky little shits who can just pass by without anyone noticing. We're losing Craig's interest. No, I'm actually locked in. How dare you? Okay. Can we start talking about the food thing yet or how we do it? You wanted me to do the whole like or no. Hi, which one of you wanted me to do the food pairing? DK was like do a food. Craig was like, I'm thinking about watching them. Craig has made it 31 years or whatever and not watched the Lord of the Rings. It's like, what if you cooked like a multi course dinner along with the movies? And then we were like, that's not a good idea. And he's like, what? What did I say? We're like, I do like cooking, but the idea of having to prepare like five dishes before watching this movie stuff out like a lot. Here, that's fair. Make some things for this movie you've never seen. Make some lambis bread. Yeah. Bake a bread before you watch a four hour movie. That sounds fucking fantastic. Why don't you send me the bread? Send me the lambis bread. Lambis bread. All right. All right. I'll do that. Goodbye, everyone. 247 support in Massachusetts or call 18778 hope and why or text hope and why in New York.