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Fritzy came up with an advertising and marketing campaign for Sam Darnold. It's a victory day parade in Seattle. They're expecting upwards of 800,000 people to show up. But the public school system says no excused absences. You have to show up for school. And I, as a parent, would if my kid said, Hey, can we go celebrate? I would say absolutely, absolutely. Although Todd, it was a teacher's pet, would have gone to class. If there was an exam that I felt like I could not miss and I wasn't going to be able to re take it another day, which would be terrible for a teacher to do something like that. But let's say you were in Denver and your 11 years of age and the Broncos just won the Super Bowl and it's an unexcused absence if you go to the parade. Well, you're up in the sticks. I don't care about perfect attendance or anything like that. I was always very concerned about my grades and round. You know, it's big as a Bronco fan as I was since like age seven or eight. If there was a big midterm or final or test, those going to be a big part of my grade, I would probably go to school as lame as that sounds. All right. 8773DP show email address dpadampatric.com, Twitter handle at DPC show. Good morning. If you're watching on peacock or the NBC sports network and listening on our radio affiliates around the country. Let's recap our ones poll question and then move ahead to hour two. Seedin, would you let slash encourage your kid to stick out in order to attend a championship parade 90% of the audience say yes. And should school should schools close for championship parade days? 65% say yes. That's a 35% saying no, though. Yeah. What if a teacher wants to do it? I mean, we're talking about the students. Oh, they got to have a personal day. They're going to have a cough there, Marvin. That's why there's PTO. Fair enough. Fair enough. All right. Couple of phone calls in here. Todd, you want to give the marketing advertising campaign for Sam. So Sam Arnold went to Disneyland and then he was serving chicken fingers behind the counter of raising cane in Seattle. And I know that's a really popular spot. I haven't had raising cane. Maybe they'd like to be a sponsor of the show. But Sam Arnold was behind the counter serving up chicken tenders yesterday. Yes, Paul. Yeah, there's hundreds of people in line at the local raising canes and then Sam gets out of the SUV goes behind the counter and starts to chop it up with people. Yes, Todd. And I thought he proved he wasn't chicken that he wasn't seeing ghost anymore. He went to super. But it just seems like once they were from chicken. How about we set up our pitch? We could do that. All right, elevator pitch where I've only got and you know, that's where you have the time when you get on the elevator. And then by the time you get off the elevator, you've made your pitch to the, the marketing kind of got to get to the point fairly quick. You would not do well with not elevator. A lot of big penthouse. I go, go up the Empire State Building elevator. Maybe. Okay. All right. So tell the audience what you told us earlier this morning. Okay. I was thinking Sam Arnold obviously wins the Super Bowl. And we've heard all these things about all the other teams he was at and, and you know, seeing ghosts and everything. And we asked on when he was on the show and many people of SM, don't you play with a chip on your shoulder? You know, everybody's criticizing you, play off Sam and all that kind of stuff. Play off Donald. So why not even though he denies the thing about the chip on the shoulder, this time he doesn't pull help me flush this out. This time he does have a chip on a shoulder, a giant potato chip on a shoulder. And ruffles or lays or wise or pringles or some chip company should get involved as soon as possible, getting 100 Sam Donald's people and have him do a campaign with a potato chip on his shoulder. And they can play off the whole chip on the shoulder thing. And that's my, uh, that's your elevator pitch. All right. Wow. Paulie's giving you a round of applause. It's so simple and perfect. It's, it will work. You just silence a guy eating a bag of chips. You pan up to Sam Arnold in full uniform and he flicks the chip off his shoulder. He goes, not anymore black. No, he didn't flip it off. He grabs and eats it. Okay. Even better. Yeah. You can't waste a late, lays potato chip. We're workshop and that's even better. Yeah. Oh, he'll have a chip on his shoulder no longer because he's eating it. But then they put another chip on his shoulder because if it's a lay, as you can't eat just one. So now you're constantly getting more and more chips that you saw in the commercial. Never ends. Thank you, Todd. You're welcome. Hopefully somebody can get this to, uh, I know his parents listen to the show. So, uh, Sam's parents, maybe you could tell Sam. We're, and, and we're not going to take a fee. You know, this is our gift to Sam for winning. No, we'll take the chips. Okay. We'll take a bag of chips or two. Alrighty. Uh, let me see. We get a couple of phone calls in here. Uh, the Patriots had exit interviews yesterday. And, you know, I thought Will Campbell handled himself quite well. I would, I want him to talk after the Super Bowl. I do. And, you know, I bring this up, you see, you know, after these losses where somebody doesn't talk and I said, I was there when Bill Buckner had the ball go through his legs and he did every interview. Uh, Eccrously when he gave up the home run to Gibson, uh, Mitch Williams when he gave up the home run to Joe Carter, uh, Rodney Harrison when you had the helmet catch. I, you get paid to do this. This isn't college. You get paid and, you know, the fan base is deserved to hear something from you. And Will Campbell did not want to talk after a terrible performance against Seattle, but he did talk yesterday at the Patriots press conference. Just wanted the night to sleep on things. Hopefully y'all can forgive me and we can move past it. I know myself. And if I would have spoken after I would have said something that I didn't need to say, obviously, you know, I was picked high, uh, and paid a lot. So people expect a certain thing and I expect more myself. Uh, so whenever I don't perform, I don't expect, you know, everyone to be like, it's okay, buddy. Uh, I mean, obviously it sucks, uh, but it doesn't suck for anyone more than it sucks for me. So that's Will Campbell, the Patriots left tackle. And when you have a rookie left guard in a rookie left tackle, it tells you something about the right guard and the right tackle that they didn't switch them when they knew they were having problems because even as bad as Will Campbell was, the guys on the other side weren't better than him. But give credit to Seattle. Seattle spotted a weakness. The Patriots didn't react. They didn't change anything. They didn't have somebody else over there helping or chipping or any of that. Or, you know, a lot of times you go after the guy who was coming after you. Now, this was always a philosophy against great defensive players is don't go away from them run at them and kind of use their athleticism against them. They didn't do that either. Yes, he. What do you think Will would have said that he could say that I don't know need to be said. I, now I would have followed up by saying, can you give me an idea of what you would have said? Because after that, he says, because I, you know, uh, I don't expect everybody to be like, hey, don't worry about a buddy. And it's, you know, uh, like Paul said, it's a country song, but it sucks for everybody, but it sucks worse for me or something like that. He says at the end, but like, what would he have been like, I'm terrible. I don't belong here on the worst player on the team or like, what would he have said that didn't need to be said in that moment? I think he might have said I wish that we would have adjusted that we would have done something different. I wish I could have gotten a little bit more help. Obviously I'm dealing with an injury. A lot of people wondering why he didn't get any help. Yes. I've been alone in that. I, I mean, I felt bad for him. Because if you let that, you know, blitzer have a free run at you and he's just standing there and all of a sudden, you know, he's the Kevin Bacon character in animal house. Oh, well, he gets run over. Remake. Oh, yes. And I just thought, help this kid. Because if you don't, it doesn't matter what Drake may, it's hard for me really to distinguish how good a game Drake may could have had with a little bit of protection. Just a little. Now I didn't think they have enough offense to score 20 points, but he did throw for, you know, 250 yards in the fourth quarter. Now granted, you might say that's garbage time, but I just, I was shocked that Josh McDaniels didn't do anything adjustment. I wonder if Bill Belichek would have done something different there. And maybe it's not fair to bring that up with Mike Raible, but you've got a long half time. It's three times longer than a normal half time. You couldn't come up with any kind of game plan. Yeah, it seems to be working. Let's just stick to the plan. You know, they're going to get pretty tired after a while running in and tackling Drake. Yeah, these three and outs, they're really wearing down. Yeah, Paul. I think we said this yesterday, 29 13 looks really bad for the score, but 9 0 and half. It was not out of hand at all scoring wise. Yeah. Yeah, that was what was surprising. You kept doing the same thing and I kept going at what point? Like I thought Seattle would be like, are they trying to trick us here? They're letting us just run in there and, you know, knock their quarter back to the ground. Yes, he. I think, yeah, this, this off season is a real character test for some of these guys. For Will Campbell, how does he come back next year after that being his last game there and Drake, may, you know, what is he coming back to? You know, that's, you're really going to see if these two players specifically, are they the guy or not based on how they rebound from this? Yeah, we'll talk to Jason Garrett about this. He'll join us in 10 minutes from now. Drew Brezel join us a little more than an hour from now. Couple of phone calls, David in LA. Good morning, David. What's on your mind? Good morning, Dan. You know, going back to teams abandoning one location and fan base for another. Let's not forget that Oklahoma City was not the first city to steal Seattle Thunder. See what I did there for you in 1969, the A.L. One trick single season Seattle pilots blamed out after a season to become the Milwaukee Brewers. All right. Well, thank you, David. You know, Seattle pilots, bad uniforms. Steven Burbank. Hi, Steve. What's on your mind? I just had a trivia question kind of in line with the teammates, you know, growing up or whatever, but this is baseball and it's what players that there were father son or brothers. And this is not for Dan Patrick, because I think Dan would get this just for the dance. Brothers or father son that have the most combined home runs. Oh, yes, Paulie. The A.L.U. family? Nope. Uh, got any any answers over there? The griffies. No, I think it's Hank Aaron and Tommy Aaron. I knew I knew Dan would get it to be the Hank fan. All right. I think Paulie's right. You guys are going to win an Emmy before Dan. You heard it here. Steven Burbank on tape. Let's go. All right. Thank you, Steve. It might be after hopefully not posthumously. You know, the death of the show, not the death of me. But if that happens, then you guys can go up and, uh, you know, you can receive the honor in, in my, in my memory. Just don't let Todd talk too much. Like everybody gets to say something. That seems fair. All right. I still like my idea that if we win, we all get up there and we all talk at the same time and nobody's going to understand what we're saying, but we all get to say what we want to say in the 30 seconds there. So it'd be like, and my mom is, you have really, no, I would get up there and I go, oh, thank you. Uh, we'd all just like to, you know, say something just a little bit of something. Really. We're all out there. I'm just going to talk about my wife. I'm really going to talk about my wife. I'm going to talk about my wife. And the hell with the mother shit. What? And then we would go off stage. What? Uh, junior in California. How junior? What's on your mind? Hey, good morning, Dan. Um, five nine to skinny fat 200 pounds. Um, yeah, I was calling with the team. I found in the high school job Peterson and Devotee Adams Apollo all the time. Yeah, we were looking at those who played the same sport because, you know, when you talk about Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kirschau, one play football, one played baseball. You know, you knew that one. I did. I just had. Have you heard that one? I don't know if you'd heard that one. Um, Yeah, they did. Anyone say my school Tyler and North Dakota. High Tyler, what's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. Thanks for taking a call. Hey, just piggybacking on on Todd's marketing pitch and good timing with strong Drew coming on. How come for breeze hasn't picked up Drew breeze? Okay. I'll bring it up. Drew's not afraid to represent a product though. Not at all. Um, all right. Let me take a break. We'll talk to Jason Garrett. Why didn't the Patriots change yesterday? There's also breeze airways, right? Breeze airlines. You could do that one too. You get rid of the foot. So we will talk to Jason Garrett about what I said. I told you did there. I gave you a whole lot of credit for Sam Darnold and I loved that. I got interrupted you as you're getting ready to go to break. I didn't have to say it at that moment because once again, you could have told me privately and I would say, hey, Todd, bring it back. Now it seems to be the moment we were just talking about for breeze like the wind breeze. At the risk of interrupting you going to break Jason Garrett will join us next here in the Dan Patrick show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I heart radio lap. Stick out here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow. And I have brought it here to I have. 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Would you encourage your child to sick out in order to attend a championship parade? 90% say yes and should schools close for championship parade days? 65% say yes they should. Jason Garrett football night in America studio analyst, former head coach in the NFL joining us. I watched the pregame and you were pretty confident where you thought Seattle was going to win by double digits. Why did were you so confident? I just thought there were so much better, you know, when you watch the film of them all year long. You know, there's something about the gauntlet that they went through in the NFC West. That was interesting to me. You play San Francisco three times. You play the Rams three times. You know, they they win 14 games in the regular season. They're impressive in the playoffs. The defense is dominant. Sam was clean throughout the playoffs. And you know, I don't want this to come out the wrong way because it is hard to win a game. Let alone win 14 games. But Buffalo's road all you excuse me. New England's road all year long was not nearly as challenging. You know, Buffalo was the only team they played with a winning record. And you know, I just feel like at the end of it, Seattle was they went through the gauntlet. They were more impressive. And I just think talked about and they were a better team. Help me understand knowing what Seattle is doing. Your left tackle is drowning. And it doesn't seem like you're changing your offensive philosophy at all. Why? I was surprised. You know, New England's approach. You know, the challenges we're going to be up front. We set up before the game that I just don't know of. New England's offensive line can block Seattle's front. And they couldn't block them when it was a foreman line. And they didn't handle the pressures very well at all. And what was interesting was they were not challenging pressures. It was a single DB coming with her spoon. It was strong dog meaning a mic and a nickel Sam coming. These aren't complicated pressures. And it just didn't seem like New England had any answer for it. And for me, you go into the game and you say, okay, let's try to do this. And then it's not working. I was just surprised. They didn't try something different. Hey, get an empty. Get the ball out of his hand quickly. That's something they've done. Certainly chipping those guys and changing up protections is something you could get to. And Josh McDaniels is as good as they get. I mean, trust me. He's in his tenth Super Bowl. But as that game wore on, I was surprised. They just didn't try something different to alleviate it. And I was also really surprised. They couldn't handle what appeared to be pretty basic pressures. They looked a little bit lost out there. Yeah, I'm surprised. And of course, you know, you have forgotten more football than I know. And I'm going, can't we just bring some help over there? If you're going to go back to pass, then have the opportunity to pass. You know, I don't know what's going to happen after you throw it, but at least giving the opportunity to be able to throw the football. And I really thought they would subscribe to the Tom Brady Playbook where it's just out of his hands quickly. And therefore, you neutralize that. And then maybe you get, you know, five, seven, ten yards. You keep some drives alive. I thought they abandoned the run way too early. And if I'm noticing this and I'm a novice, I mean, Seattle's probably going, I don't think they're going to change anything. Let's just keep doing what we're doing. Yeah, the number one thing when you're putting these plans together. And again, Josh knows this better than anybody. It's what's your protection plan? Okay, that's every week. But then particularly when you're talking about their offensive line, going against that Seattle front, and you said it, you know, what are the answers? Let's get it out quickly. Part of what New England's DNA has been for 25 years is let's use empty. And let's get the ball out of his hand. Five protectors. But we're going to give you quick answers. Boom, figure it out. Throw it to the best match up. And let's see if we can move it that way. The other thing to do is you start bringing people in. You have a tight end. You have a back, you chip and hammer on the issue for them, it was particularly the left hand side, you know, rushing on Campbell. But you know, you do those things by bringing extra people in. You have seven protectors, eight protectors. In some cases, nine protectors, where you're just, you're loading it up that way. Just didn't seem like they did a lot of that. And you said it, the best way to alleviate the past rushes, you run at them. You make them be run defenders first. And they weren't able to do that either. But, you know, let's give Seattle credit. You know, they've been really, really good all year long. And you say, okay, let's run it. The third best run, defense and the league. You know, they cover really well in the back end. They pressure you. It was going to be a challenge. And that's why we said that going in. Seattle is better. But again, I'm not so sure. New England did enough to adjust and give their quarterback and their team enough chances in that game. And we saw it. We saw it throughout the game. Jason Garrett from football night in America. Would you rather have a good quarterback for 35 million or a great quarterback for 55 million? Great for 55. Oh, not even close. Yeah, great for 55. Those guys make such a difference. You know, why did the Rams have a real good opportunity to beat Seattle? Because they paid Matthew Stafford. He's just an elite player. I mean, this is a rare, rare football player. And so all those things we're talking about, getting the ball out of your hand quickly, handling the pressures, identifying the looks. I mean, this guy does it in his sleep and then he can throw the ball like it's nothing. So go back in the history of football. There's been 60 Super Balls now. Look at all the Super Bowl winning teams. Typically, typically they have a great quarterback. Look at all the dynasties in the history of the NFL. It's great head coach, oh, by the way, elite quarterback who's in the Hall of Fame. So to me, it's a no-brander. If you got one, you pay him. The worst thing is your paying 55 million dollars for a guy who's not a lead. That's where you're running the issues. Any names you want to name? No, none at all. But you know, you get to that point where you say, he's our guy and hell would we got to pay him? That's where you make the mistake. You got to believe deep down that this is an elite player who's going to make a difference for your team. But why do these teams? I never would have extended Kyler. I never would have extended to a, these are all things I said in real time. CJ Stroud, I'm not extending him. I mean, I'm going to make him prove that he is an elite quarterback here. We just jump early. Why? No doubt. You know, you start to feel this pressure, you know, from the outside, oh, you got a guy, you're reflash for you. And you really got to be in your building and you have to evaluate it. And you have to evaluate it hard. And say, okay, is this guy really the guy we want for the next 10 years leading our franchise? And just because they haven't done it yet, doesn't necessarily mean you say no to that. You know, a lot of people say, oh, he hasn't done it. He hasn't won yet. Well, okay, you have to pull back and independent of those results. Say, is this our guy? Has he demonstrated the intangible quality? Great leader, tough, all of that. Does he have the physical ability to make a difference? You know, the great Ron Wolflin on Brett Farve. Does he tilt the field? You know, if you're going to pay a guy $55 million, he better be a difference maker. He better represent everything you want your organization. And I agree with you. I think they jumped the gun too much on these decisions. Yeah. And you start to look at the offseason here. Is Pittsburgh going to bring back Aaron Rogers? Would you bring back Aaron Rogers if you were coaching the Steelers? Well, if I were Mike McCarthy, I think I'd be better inclined to answer that question. You know, he was with him for so long as we all know. So I think that adds a little bit of a wrinkle to it. I thought Aaron did a great job, you know, helping that team get to where they were. But again, when you're bringing in a new coach and it's a new regime, okay, do we want to start over? You know, maybe it's Aaron Rogers for a year, but you draft the quarterback high and say, okay, we're going to do this Patrick Mahomes thing. You know, like Alex Smith was going to, was going to keep the seat warm for our quarterback who's coming in the future. Maybe it's that decision, but I don't say automatically we're kicking him to the curb. He's been too good throughout his career. He was too good this year. And then the connection with McCarthy is an interesting wrinkle to it. But you have to have a plan going forward. But I look at Miami. I don't know what their plan is. Is it Quin yours until they maybe find their quarterback? Is Bryce Young? Do you see a big time? Let's extend him quarterback in Carolina. Minnesota, that seems to be a mess. Pittsburgh, big question mark there. Arizona, big question mark there. And there's a lot of things that need to be answered here. I don't know if they will be, but that's just a few, a handful of teams. Yeah, I agree with you completely. And like I said, the only thing worth to not have in a quarterback is having the wrong one that you're paying a lot of money to. So it's probably better to take a breath on some of these decisions and let them prove it to you. If they come back and prove it to you again, okay, you know, the evidence is there. But I do think you have to be careful because the obvious question and the reason you asked me in the beginning is, if it's 55 or 35, what are you doing with that $20 million? And are you able to build a defense like Seattle built? Because you put your resources over there. You need to put your quarterback in an environment where it can have success. So if he's taking all the money and you're not paying linemen or playmakers or defensive players, it's going to be harder for him to have success. So you better believe in the guy. We got Drew Breeze coming up next hour. I pay him. Well, you can't pay him now because that arm is gone. But I know you cross paths with him. You spent a lot of time with Drew Breeze at certain points, didn't you? Yeah, we did. You know, football history could have been different. If Drew Breeze came to Miami when I was when I was coaching down there. But things all work out the way they do. But how close was that that he was going to play for Sabin? Oh, I think it was really close. You know, we went to New Orleans on Wayne, Heizangus, Plain, and he and his wife came back with us. We had an amazing dinner. You know, it's easy to say now, but we were in on Drew Breeze, obviously. And ultimately came down to a medical decision where they said he had a 75% terrorist, rotate her cuff, and he wanted X number of dollars guaranteed. And you know, I'll never forget we're not going to do that. You know, and you know, who's the one that said that? The same who said that? Say it again, who said we're not going to do that. Our coach was the guy who ultimately said that. So Sabin said, we're not going to give him what he wants. Well, I just think it was a bigger decision. You know, he probably discussed it with the doctors and with ownership and where he was physically and all of that. And you know, my content in all along is I get it. I certainly understand it, but I bet on certain guys coming back from injuries more than others. And even though it was a severe injury to Drew, the fact that it's Drew Breeze makes you think, huh, this is the kind of guys going to do absolutely everything possible to get himself right. And sure enough, he only threw it for 60,000 yards after we had those discussions. 62,000 to be exact. But but you guys took Dante Cole Pepper. Wasn't he a medical risk as well? He was. He was. And that was the tricky part of it. And it's a little bit toward discussion that we're having right now about quarterbacks. You know, just because we weren't able to do the one thing didn't mean we necessarily had to do the other thing. And Dante was an amazing player, but such a big part of his game was his movement. You know, he threw 39 touchdown passes two years before that. But so many of them were him knocking guys away and running, extended plays, rocking to the ball down the field. And he had a severe knee injury and he was not able to move like he was earlier in his career. And he just wasn't the same player. And so, you know, in that situation, you say, okay, we can't have Breeze. We necessarily have to do this. Maybe it's better to keep the slate clean for now and then go make the best decision going forward. And we chose not to do that. Yeah, a great season. I enjoyed the Super Bowl coverage as well. Thank you. As always for your contributions. You're the best. Thanks so much for having me. Thank you, buddy. Jason Garrett, football night in America and former Cowboys head coach, our Notre Dame football as well. Sam D'Arnold's in that sweet spot. You don't have to worry about that for another year at least. But hey, if he has another great year, you have a playoff run. Now all of a sudden, Sam will be 29 years of age. And Sam would probably be saying, how about 50, 55 million? And he will have earned that. That's where I think people, we give up on quarterbacks really early. And, you know, for a variety of reasons, a lot of times that quarterback goes to a bad team. You get bad habits, bad results, and confidence is shot. Then all of a sudden you get kicked to the curb. Then you got to rebuild your confidence. Then you got to show that you can be a good team player. Then you get your chance. And then you go and then you get that $35 million contract. I mean, Baker Mayfield did this. Obviously, Sam D'Arnold has done this. And I hope this is a pattern for other quarterbacks who get kicked to the curb, get that opportunity. Don't price yourself out of being on a good team. I mean, Sam on a good team, I can have a beat quarterback and I can have an A defense. And my special teams were A plus. And I got a coach, the first coach in NFL history to call all the defensive plays while being the head coach, Mike McDonald. And he's not even 40 years of age. So almost the defensive side of Sean McVase offensive genius, you get that with Mike McDonald. Getting that coach, I know we talk about getting your quarterback, but getting that coach really, really important. We know that, but I don't think we spend enough time on, did we get the right guy? Like New England got the right guy. Everybody would agree. Seattle got the right guy. And there's other coaches around the league where you go, you know, Draud Mayo didn't get the right guy. Yes, Marvin. So if Sam Darnal goes on a run for the next maybe four or five years, people won't even remember that he was a jet. They're going to remember, man, remember Sam Darnal, I played for the Seahawks, say if they make it to another Super Bowl, and he plays good football for the next five years in Seattle. No, they'll remember because Jets fans will lament the fact that they let him go. So it'll still be there. Well, they won't remember that he was a backup in San Francisco or he was on the scout team in Carolina, but they'll remember that he played for the Jets because we won't let the Jets fans forget that. Yes, Paul. You're all you're kind of both right there because it'll be a footnote that he's a jet, but the more success that Darnal has, the more the he came from the Jets and overcame the Jets will be replayed and replayed with every story about him. All right, let's say a break. We'll get to more phone calls coming up. Do Breeze in the final hour. We're back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio.com. And within the IHARDS Radio app search FSR to listen live. Now that the NFL season is over, we kind of go, uh, what's been going on in the other sports here? College basketball, the NBA, NHL, getting ready for baseball. We spring training, the Olympics going on. There's a problem in the NBA and that has to do with tanking. Now normally you'll get maybe one or two teams tanking for the opportunity to get somebody special like Cooper Flag or Victor, Wendon, and you've probably got three or four players in college basketball this year who will come in and contribute right away. And AJ, DeBanza is probably going to be a guy that's going to contribute. Yeah, I mean, Utah would love to just keep him in Utah and, uh, that would be tank worthy. And I think Utah is building something. You know, they got Laurie Markenon and they got Jaren Jackson, Jr. The third as well. I think they're playing four bigs. Uh, you got Ish Bailey. Ace Bailey. Who's Ish? Ish Smith? Wasn't he? Yes. I think he was traded more times than any other player in history or played on more teams. Ish Smith. I think the most teams that NBA have been 70 before. 15 or 15. So Ace Bailey out of Rutgers, you got him. And if you're tanking and maybe you get one of these guys, then maybe you got something there. But teams are being obvious. It feels like like we're just going to sit our team down. Well, we're not going to play in this game. Okay. Like back to back. Now I understand if, if let's say I'm a catcher and I've got a day night double header and I'm going to catch both games. Okay. I'm asking a lot of you. I don't know if, you know, private planes, good training and food and health and you got to do back to back. We're like, oh my god, back to back. Yeah. That's part of the job here. And I don't think you can guilt players into wanting to play. I just think we're past that. It's a, it's a different generation. And maybe they're just being smarter that hey, you know, the way we play, the physicality, athleticism, everything about this. I, you know, I need more breaks. You know, LeBron's missed what 18 games won't qualify for a first second, third team all NBA. First time in his career. So even a guy who takes care of himself as much as LeBron has. You know, they're, they're all fallible. Yes, Marvin. Yeah. And I think there's a difference between tanking and just being sorry. Like the watch to Wizards, they're not tanking. If that was the case, they've been taking for the last 20 years. They're just not good. Yeah, but they could be, this can be an organizational tank that we're going to bring in players that aren't very good. And then we sit them. Like, I know it's trea young playing. He's not. Okay. I mean, this is a guy who was averaging what 27 and 10. I got, I don't know. Like after a while, if they're not playing, I'm not watching. And you got to win me back. And I'm, I'm an NBA fan for 60 years. But after a while, you're like, who's playing? Imagine you go to the Spurs game. Now you got treated to Victor Wimba Niyama, but it's like, no LeBron, no Luca. That might be the one time that you're going to go and you're going to take the family to see them. Yeah, I see. Yeah. I think it's important though that we've sort of separate people into some categories, maybe because trea young is 27 years old. LeBron is 41. Yeah. But I don't know what Washington's doing with trea young because you trade for him. And I mean, is he going to be out the rest of the season? Anthony Davis, they traded for him. I think he's a help these scratch the rest of the year or coming back from an injury. They're deciding they're just not going to play him. I don't know what the, what the commissioner can do. I mean, we've been down this road. We're going to continue to go down this road. The regular season doesn't mean anything. And I go back to Greg Popovich. And he talked about that because he didn't care if they, you know, were in first place or fourth place. He didn't care in the standard. He just wanted his guys rest to do win championships. And that's what they did. He accomplished the goal that they set out to win a championship. Now we may not like along the way that, hey, we're got a road trip in Miami. Hey, Timmy and, you know, Parker, once you guys stay back here, like, and that's one of the commissioner find him like a couple hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, Paul. There are so many stories about this in just the past two days. Our buddy Chris Manix of SI wrote one yesterday. The Utah Jazz were in a game where they were up three points to start the fourth. They set three of their starters for their entire fourth quarter. So they're doing everything they can to lose the game and they won that game. Was that against Miami? Yes. And three starters when a three point game sit. That means it's obvious you're not competing in that game. Yeah. But I know what you can do about it. And look, you know, NBC and Peacock paid a lot of money for the NBA. You know, we got inside the NBA. We got Charles and those guys come into the mothership. I mean, people are spending money and, you know, what is the product that you get to go see? That's the unfortunate, unfortunate part of this. And look, when I came up with the suggestion to the commissioner, how about 65 games to qualify for postseason honors? Like, can we motivate them monetarily? I don't even know if that matters. But you'll get a guy who, hey, if I make first second third team all NBA, this kicks in or I can't, you know, qualify to win the MVP unless I play in at least 65 games. Well, I don't think you can be the MVP if you don't play in 65 or more games. But the NBA has got a real issue here of probably five to seven teams who were tanking right before our various. And I don't know what you're going to find them. You're going to take away, you can't take away their, if you took away their draft pick, unless you came up with something different, but, you know, it's not the, the two worst teams. I mean, I remember when the Phoenix Suns and Milwaukee Bucks had a coin toss and the winner got Karima Abdul-Jabbar. It was just a coin toss and the Suns got Neil Walk. I mean, that's what it was. It wasn't like, and maybe they were tanking back. Who won that trade, Dan Break it down. I'd say, well, and, you know, I'm going to say Karim. You got him at his peak. Yeah, I think Karim won that, but it was a coin toss. Now you have the lottery and then Dallas wins the lottery with Cooper flag. You're just, you're trying to figure out how can we do this and be fair to everybody here without rewarding the teams that are just flat out tanking. Marvin, you got to suggest you here. Not a one. Because, so say, look, Lucas out, but Lucas Ben out, like he's legit, Andrew, he hasn't played in a week and a half. So what do you do? Yeah, I don't know if you honest how hurt he is, unless it's his feelings. And, you know, they don't want to get him hurt because they want to trade him in the off season. So I, you know, these guys stay out a lot longer than I remember players staying out. And I don't like to have your lying to me. I can say I got an upset stomach. Fritsy pulls that all the time and I believe him. I do pull that. But you do it in a convincing way. A very convincing way. I'm fortunate. Yes, Marvin, but I might give Janice the benefit of the doubt more so than someone like, why? Who's known for sitting out? Janice, there's never been a real thing of him staying out for long stretches of time. I don't know. This calf injury is staying with him and that would be buyer beware. He's in his 13 season. Yeah. Okay. But, you know, I got a factor that in from trading for him. I can't get him in all of a sudden. He goes, I have calf muscle. Okay. Don't they have calf? What's the term, Todd? I heard calf management. Taking load management. Just taking out load and put the calf in there. What are they? Farmers, you know, ranchers. We got calf. Good times. Good times. Drew breeze. First spell at Hall of Famer. We'll join us to talk about getting the news. More of your phone calls as well. Two hours in the books on this Wednesday. Why don't one coming up? This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
