you're listening to Miller a minute early Rick coming at you a minute early floor Meister studios floor Meisters keeping it real and now here's Mark Miller and David Moulton hour two of Miller and Moulton on this first Monday of March if it is March therefore there will be madness. Miller and Moulton. Millerandmoulton.com. Miller underscore Moulton on X. We'll come up with a poll question. I promise we will. I have an idea for one. It's in your wheelhouse, David. Okay. It's in your wheelhouse. Sounds good. It's an overreaction Monday. No guest. Just us getting the week started, kicking it around. Pat Kerwin scheduled on the show tomorrow. so i don't know i'm guessing you're aware of this but there have been major changes in your world in the last couple of days excuse me major changes what what world fast food david fast food No, I think I've missed it. I don't know how, but there have been big, I mean, and I'm not messing around. First off. Really? Really? Really? No, I'm not. David, look, this is something here that's important to you. And I don't mess around with things that are important to you. David. The Whopper changed the burger for the first time in over 10 years. The original Whopper has been changed. It is an updated Whopper. New packaging, new bun, new mayonnaise. Now, I am not a Burger King guy, and I'm not a fast food guy. but when a burger chain decides to make a change of its signature item, I mean, come on. I literally, I can't tell you. If I've had Burger King once in the last 30 years, that would be a lot. It's my least favorite fast food place. Even when I was eating fast food, I didn't go to Burger King. The only thing I could even tolerate there was a double cheeseburger, And that's if it was the only thing at the exit when I worked in pro hockey. But when Burger King has an elevated Whopper and people say it's better than the original, I go to my go-to person on the Whopper. That's one David Mould. Can I ask a question, Your Honor? is an elevated Whopper like an elevated PGA Tour event? Okay, is it different from a regular tour event? Or is this, like, is there the Whopper and then an elevated Whopper or no? Well, apparently the new presentation is the biggest thing. Okay. But it's a Whopper packaging thing. It's a new bun. And, I mean, come on, David. What's the signature thing about the Whopper? it's flame grilled as all burger king items are right i mean unless it's stuck in the fryer so uh by the way the whopper was released in 1957 four years after the chain opened the original you want to take a guess at what the original price of the whopper was a quarter a little higher 37 cents the original burger at that time at the burger king just original burger cost 18 cents by the way burger king founded in miami for those that didn't know okay so that's i mean that's our florida chain but but the other one and you probably eat here in fact i know you eat here a little more is mcdonald's beginning tomorrow is adding a new product, the Big Arch. It's a new burger. It's quite large. And if you want some fun, go look up the CEO of McDonald's tasting the new burger. There has never been anything that looked quite as awkward as Chris Kaminsky trying to eat the burger. I guess the new burger was released last week on Tuesday, and he didn't know how to eat it. He literally said, I don't even know how to attack this. But he also said, I love this product. It's so good. I'm going to do a tasting right now, but I'm going to eat this for my lunch just so you know holy cow god that is a big burger I don't it goes on to say I don't even quite know how to attack it got so much of it and then he bit the burger and showed his big bite to the camera of which David you would be embarrassed by what he thinks is a big bite no doubt no doubt um his they I mean they did a good job It's a video and they locked in on a picture where his eyes look like they're watering. He has a horrible look on his face as he's he's the CEO of the company and he looks as if he's going to vomit eating his own product. OK, it looks like it would be me eating the McDonald's burger. OK, I have a few questions here. Does is Chris Kaminsky skinny? yes very very no no i mean he looks like i don't know how tall he is but i'm guessing five he looks like he's five eight 130 pounds david okay how can you trust the ceo of a fast food place if he's skinny i'll just say that right now okay i think part of why wendy's became so popular besides the fact that I'd argue food's pretty good for fast food, is Dave Thomas looked like a guy who would own a fast food company. No doubt. That's what I want my CEO of a fast food place looking like. I want him looking like he's the guy who eats the food that he's selling. Now, I will say the big arch, I don't know if it's in your wheelhouse, David. There's a lot that is. There's some that clearly to me, and I could be wrong, isn't. So it's two quarter pound patties. But right there, Molten's in. They already do that. It's called the double quarter pounder. Again, David, very different from this point forward. With all due respect, I don't trust McDonald's when it comes to saying, oh, something is new, because remember, and this goes back two generations probably, but remember this big revamp and this, that, and the other thing, and all they did was put a slice of lettuce and a slice of tomato on their burger. You're talking about the McBLT. Right, the McDLT, right. It was horrible. Exactly, and the new packaging, and they upcharged your buck, and it was like it's a slice of lettuce and a slice of tomato. What the heck? So you get the two quarter pound patties, three slices of white cheddar. And that could already throw molten off. Crispy and slivered onions, pickles and lettuce, tangy big art sauce, and a toasted sesame and poppy seed bun. So there's a lot different about it with the cheddar, with the crispy slivered onions. And I don't trust any tangy big art sauce personally. I'm going to Burger King today then. okay i'm sampling the new whopper although i prefer it with cheese okay so i'm i'll sample it all right you're right i mean these are two of the big three chains we're talking about burger king and mcdonald's these are staples in the fast food world yeah burger king slipped a little bit maybe four now okay but yeah there's no doubt all right it's a biggie then you know i don't do fast food but the daughter had a gymnastics meet last night i talked to her after and she had just left the drive-through at taco bell and had her first ever taco bell oh she's 11 she's never had taco bell my wife and i don't eat fast food therefore my daughter doesn't eat fast food if we eat tacos i live in estero florida there are 64 places that serve up amazing tacos I don need to go to Taco Bell for a taco But drive out of town Right And it was funny We're literally FaceTiming in the car last night. And she is eating a soft Taco Supreme for the very first time. And she went, you know, this isn't that bad. Uh-huh. That's how they get you. And I told her, I said, hey, if I were to do fast food, Taco Bell was my go-to for many years. That's how they get you. Yep. But she had her first ever Taco Bell, maybe her last, because I'll never take her. But on the road with mom, you never know what can happen. The only thing that you have said during this segment that has surprised me, I get it. You know, some people just don't like the taste of a certain fast food place. I totally get that. All right. the reason why I thought you would have been a little more of a BK customer, they're the only ones that did onion rings in the fast food world, especially when we grew up. You know, you and I are within four years of one another. Everybody did fries. They did onion rings. I thought that that might have, you know, you would have found one thing, like you said, if I had to go there, I'd do the double cheeseburger. So I thought the reason you might have just gone four or five times a year was, you know what? I'm jonesing for some onion rings. I will say I had the onion rings there. My go-to back in the day and like the high school days, because I had a couple of buddies that worked at BK. I didn't back in the day, I didn't mind their chicken sandwich. They ended up changing the chicken sandwich. It wasn't nearly as good later. The chicken sandwich of the late 80s was not the chicken sandwich of the late 90s and early 2000s. And again, I literally, you know, I'm 56 years old. I probably haven't had much fast food since my late 20s. But that's when I was traveling and hockey and you were forced to eat it. So I would go Taco Bell more times than not. That I could do. But yeah, you know, a couple new burgers out there. Had to see if you were aware or if you had eaten them. No, that's good. That gives me something to do this week. I mean, I don't have a life. I don't have any friends. So yeah, sure. That'll be good. I'll put it on my calendar. I mean, literally, it'll be like, ooh, Monday Whopper. What's that the new one at McDonald's called? The Big Arch? The big arch. The big, man, that's a lot of boasting. You know, I mean, no offense. You've got to deliver if you're going to boast that. I don't know. Here's the other thing, with all due respect, with the way they've raised their prices, and now they're going to come out with this big super burger, what am I going to have to do, just hand you a 20? My goodness. All right, got that off my chest. Miller and Moulton, millerandmoulton.com, Miller underscore Moulton on X. Welcome back to Miller and Moulton. Text the guys what's in your mind at 21,000. That's 21000. And now here's David Moulton. 21 minutes past the hour. Miller and Moulton. Miller and Moulton.com. Miller underscore Moulton on X. So, not to belabor the point, for as top-heavy and as awesome as you and I think, all right, this NCAA tournament is going to be. I mean, we think week two and the final four are going to be tremendous. Tremendous. But, man, this field is weak. I mean weak. Auburn is considered a bubble team. Auburn has lost 7 of 8. Auburn is 15 and 14 on the season. 6 and 10 in conference play. They've won two road games all year. and they're a bubble team? Listen, of all the things they're talking about, and I get it, unbalanced scheduling, particularly in conference play, a team could really get the shaft. I get it. There could be a really good team. I don't know about a really good team. There could be a good basketball team in a major conference that can finish, I believe, Mark, below 500. I think you could, if you play 16 or 18 conference games, if you get the right schedule, you could go 7-9, 8-10, and still be a team that I think is NCAA tournament worthy. But I got to admit, I'd have no problem with all the advantages that the major conference schools have. I'd have no problem if you inserted a rule that said you've got to be 500 in conference play or you're ineligible for an at-large berth in the tournament. Now, they're never going to do it for obvious reasons, but I'd have no problem, Mark, if you did it. I'm just saying. Now, I don't know what's going on with Lenardi's bracketology because he hasn't done one since the 27th. How this time of year it's not being done on a damn near daily basis is beyond me. Right. It's the only time that this stuff matters. But this was as of the 27. The last four in were Auburn, TCU, Santa Clara, and Indiana. I believe both Auburn and Indiana have lost since then. Now, Santa Clara had a – I think they had a win. Yeah, they had a big win. They beat Gonzaga, right? Yeah, and beat them and won the regular season league title. So with that win, they should be in, flat out. Hell, they should be comfortably in compared to how weak the 10 and 11 lines are in this field. The last four buys, Georgia, Missouri, A&M, and Texas, all SEC teams. Yeah, imagine that. Now, these are the first four out teams. Cal, New Mexico, and I don't know much about the Lobos this year. My apologies. Ohio State and USC. I would imagine with the Buckeyes winning against Purdue and Indiana losing to Michigan State, you could just flip-flop those two teams. Just keep it in conference. And USC. And USC, with the player that either got kicked off the team or quit or quit after he got kicked off the team, I don't know what the hell is going on. But he's played for four schools in four years. How old is he, David? Like 26? I think he's 26 years old. This is his last. He just played his last college game because he has no more eligibility left. And I don't even think he can get a judge to extend it. So USC is probably out. The next four out were VCU, Vatek, Seton Hall, and Cincinnati. And while Cincinnati was making a nice run, they lost their last game. Seton Hall had a great opportunity against UConn, couldn't get it done. But I mean, these are mediocre at best teams. But by the way, of the final 12 teams that are listed here, Santa Clara and New Mexico are the only ones not from power conferences. Right. So this, if we're going to go to 76, we're benefiting one mid-major. One. What the hell do I need to see, you know, some form of USC, Ohio State, Indiana, only, you know, now three of them getting in instead of one? Virginia Tech, Cal, Cincinnati, VCU. I guess VCU would be three or two mid-majors. So I'm sorry, two mid-majors. out of eight more teams. This is where I wish CBS and Turner would just look at Sankey and everyone else and go, we're not paying for these extra games before the 64-team field, just so you know. We gave you Dayton. We gave you the first four, okay? We've pumped it up as much as we can. That's it. That's all we're going. We're not going to 72. We're not going to 76. All right. I'm sorry. It's crap. It's crap. I tell you, it's crap. I mean, like, cause here's the thing. If you're going to open it up to 76, then to me, if South Florida loses in the American final, they get in. I mean that what I want If we going to open it up to 76 that what I want to happen Right because South Florida is not in any other way They considered a 12 seed right now So if they don't win their conference tournament, they're not getting a bid, and that's a joke. Right, and when you say, well, they haven't beaten anybody, well, here's my favorite. First off, who's going to schedule? Once again, we go to the whole thing. If you're not a power conference school and you've got a pulse, you can't get games. Doesn't matter the sport, by the way. I mean, you might be able to get them in baseball and softball. Okay. Soccer, you can get a couple. You can't get them in football and basketball. I'm telling you, you just can't. Unless you literally, your coach has a connection with somebody else and he owes them. Okay. But here, quad ones. Remember the whole quad one wins, quad ones, quad twos. Technically, they're called now quad one A, whatever. There's criteria behind what's a quad one win. All right. That's a win at home against the top 15 team. That's a win on the road against the top 40 team. That's a win on a neutral court against the top 25 team. By the way, they use the net, not rankings. They use the net to determine who's a 15, 25, or a 40. Okay. Louisville. By the way, Louisville right now is a six or a seven seed in everybody's bracket. Louisville's 0 and 8 in quad one games. Villanova. Villanova's a six or a seven in everybody's bracket. They're 0-5 in quad one games. I love Andy Enfield. Love him. SMUs in everybody's field, they're a 10. They're 0-5 in quad one games. Clemsons, they're a 9-10 in everybody's bracket. Haven't won a quad one game. Texas, Mark, they're in everybody's field, 1-8. Hey, I love John Cal, okay? And I think Arkansas is dangerous. Yeah, they're 1-7 in quad one games. BYU, they may have the number one pick of the draft. Okay, we've seen them on their best. They look good, right? 1-6 in quad one games. And Iowa, Iowa's in everybody's bracket. They're in an 8-9 game everywhere. Yeah, 1-6 in quad one games. We're going to open this field up? I mean... And don't give me this. We're rewarding them for playing good teams. All they're doing is playing games in their damn conference, and they don't win any of them. And they're losing them. They're losing them. Put South Florida in the – I'm serious. And like I said, I love Andy Enfield, okay? And SMU has had some nice moments. Throw South Florida in the ACC and see what their quad one record would be. Can't be worse than 0-5. I mean, come on. But the top end, again, is really good. When you're talking about threes like Kansas, Nebraska, Michigan State, and who's the other one? Michigan State's a four. Houston and Gonzaga are your threes. I mean, the top end of this tournament's going to be really good. It is. The problem is from six seeds on down, there's not much strength there. Miller and Moulton. Millerandmoulton.com. You're listening to Miller and Moulton. And now, here's Mark Miller and David Moulton. 22 minutes till the top of the hour. Miller and Moulton. Millerandmoulton.com. Miller underscore Moulton on X. Thanks so much for being with us. It's an overreaction Monday. It's March. and the Horizon League tournament gets underway tonight. Officially, the madness is underway. You can play your way into the tournament beginning tonight. I love this week. I love one big league week. I absolutely love it. It's everything for these schools. It's absolutely everything. And it's the final game that a lot of these guys are ever going to play. They've been playing ball since, you know, maybe they were single digits, certainly preteen. And for many of them, it ends. And does it end in an 11-point loss in the quarterfinals of your conference tournament? Or does it end with you going to the dance? because you pulled it off as a six seed in a one bid league. And I will say as much as we may hate it, it is the opportunity for the non-seniors to have big tournaments and get noticed by the Power Four conferences. A big week for a kid in the A-Sun, a 16 seed bid league. I mean, they're a play-in team. whoever wins the a son whether you know we've got fgcu in one of our markets we've got ju in north florida in another market you know so those kids could play their way into a power 14 the kids from north florida did it a couple years ago ended up at tennessee and he was a stud robert mccray two a son tournaments ago was a guy who was going to get drafted he was so impressive and florida state paying him six figures with the first digit crooked this year to finish his career in the ACC. We've got a poll question up. It's simply, what sport did you watch the most of this weekend? David and I argued, but since I do the poll question, I get the last laugh. Golf, hockey, basketball, and the combine. We went back and forth between racing and hockey, and well, I won because I didn't watch any racing. I watched a lot of hockey, watched my wings take it on the chin on Saturday. I watched a tiny bit of the Penns Vegas and I watched a decent amount of Panthers and Islanders last night, but I voted basketball because I watched some of Michigan, Illinois on Saturday or Friday rather. I watched a couple of games at UConn and Seton Hall on Saturday And then I watched both Purdue and Ohio state and then Sparty and Indiana yesterday. So basketball in order for me, it was basketball, hockey, golf. I did not watch one second of the NFL combat. It's horrendous television. I honestly, I usually don't cast aspersions onto others, you know, let's do what you want, whatever makes you happy. as long as you're not breaking the law or harming somebody else. But, wow, if you're sitting watching the combine, I think you need to have a talk with yourself. You may need to have a talk with someone else also. It's, wow, really? There's not a book? There's no one in your life you haven't talked to in a while you don't want to have a conversation with? All right? You don't want to go out and try the new fast food burgers. I mean, the combine. Wow, he's fast. Oh, wow, look at him. He's fast. Oh, the shuttle. That's just what I want to see. I mean, seriously, if you're walking to your car and someone's doing the shuttle, are you going to stop and watch them? It's wow. Now, the news that comes out of the combine about what teams are going to do, the fact that most every GM talks and actually has to answer legitimate questions, okay, that to me is the best part of the news that comes out of the combine. But, hey, guess what? Today's athletes are bigger, stronger, and faster than before. Can you believe that? Huh? Can you believe that? Wow. Now, I will say the highlights of the lineman from Iowa doing the shuttle or whatever, the 40 and the, I don't know, cone drill, something side to side. The kid with the mullet is outstanding, at least from a standpoint of seeing the highlights on X, David. I didn't watch it live. I will not watch it live. Not in a boat, not with a goat. However, seeing the highlights of the young man doing the drills with that mullet, that was fantastic. Can I ask a serious football question? And I'm asking it not just of you, Mark. I'm asking of everybody, okay? It's a topic that's been out there. hell it's been out there since October November when you realize that wow I don't think my team is a quarterback I think we have to we going to have to go get one But it a very simple but serious question You're a team that needs a quarterback, and you're not going to be able to draft one, especially this year. So you're going to have to go and sign a veteran tell me of this group we just asked you what do you watch this past weekend okay who are you picking amongst this group tua kyler murray geno smith's available in one form or another Kirk Cousins Mac Jones I have to trade for him and by the way you have to give something up could be a bidding war he's got a contract for this year for three million bucks okay so think about how great that is for your cap and by the way let me just stop you right there quickly with Mac Jones what would you take if you're San Francisco what would it take to trade him because like you just mentioned That's a $3 million contract. That's a really good backup on a team that they think is a playoff team. And their guy, Purdy, seems to get dinged up for a few games every year. So what would it take if you were Lynch to get him away from you? What would it take to pry him away? The highest Friday pick I could get. I would just tell everybody, don't think you can get him for a fourth rounder. Okay. If I have to settle for a third rounder, I'd be disappointed. Seriously. I mean, I would be auctioning him off for the highest Friday pick that I can get, and it would just be an auction. And whichever one's the highest offer, that's the one I'd do. Because I'm going to lose him. The reason why is, barring, if I keep him, barring Purdy suffering a very serious injury, I'm going to lose Mac and get nothing for him. Okay. I don't even know if you'd get a compensatory for him. Maybe, depending on the contract he signed. So that's why, Mark, if you're going to get something, you have to decide, am I all in this year? And I'm keeping, like the Tigers would scoobble, if you know what I mean. Am I all in this year and I'm keeping him, I'm getting nothing? Or, wow, I can get a second round pick for Mac Jones. Yeah, I'm taking it. Because I'm going to get nothing for him in a year. Yeah, now we need a backup quarterback, but you know what? No, I'm with you. Kyle Shanahan thinks pretty fondly of himself. You know, he thinks he could probably muster one up. So here are your choices. Some of them are free. Some of them you're going to have to trade for. Tua, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, Kirk Cousins, Mac Jones. Do you want me to throw Aaron Rodgers on the list? Because I will say, if I'm Minnesota, I may have to kick that tire. Forget the whole Pittsburgh thing and Mike McCarthy and all that. If I'm Minnesota, and there's a lot swirling out of Minnesota about J.J. McCarthy's future, okay? If I'm Minnesota, do I have to seriously consider calling the old guy up? who reportedly, before he signed with Pittsburgh, remember, called the Vikings and was like, I'd come to you. Do you want me? I'd go there. And then he went to Pittsburgh. So a year later, do you call Aaron and go, you know, upon further review, we made a mistake. You got your year with Tomlin. I know you enjoyed it. But how about a dome with these receivers? what do you say? So you tell me, and now I'm serious. You've got to decide. This segment's got five and a half minutes left, okay? Twitch.tv slash Miller and Moulton, the chat room, the text line, okay? YouTube chat room, the whole deal. Seriously. No, you've got to decide. Enough talk. Free agency starts a week from Wednesday. You need a quarterback. whether it's a veteran to start you got nobody you know i didn't put malik willis on the list that's too easy young but that's all you're gonna have to pay 30 million by the least that's the scary thing that seems to be the starting line for malik willis out of the list you gave me david i would go cousins first okay i would go cousins he you know there are a lot of people that thought particularly at his age coming off of the Achilles injury that last year early was going to go like last year ended up going for him but he ended up what five and two in his last seven or something like that yeah when he took over from Penix he went five and two and his health in the second half of the year looked far better than it did in the early part of the year so I would go Cousins one okay um it's interesting and i and i'll just look at it from the vikings because i think the vikings are a pretty good team with great receivers i would take cousins before i would take rogers rogers would be two on that list and i don't know how interested i am on anybody else on that list because i'm not you know what are you going to get two or four probably pretty cheap now that he gets released well yeah you can sign him to the veteran minimum i mean you can he's getting paid i have no interest in tyler murray he's not shown that he likes playing football okay listen i don't know if there's a right answer to be honest with this so i'm not going to pass judgment but just make sure you all take everything into consideration if you choose cousins he's never come cheap in his life just so you know he ain't getting them on it he he I'd be shocked if Kirk Cousins signs for you what Aaron Rodgers signed for Pittsburgh last year, one year for $13 million. I don't think Kirk Cousins will give you that deal. You can ask, okay, I'd like you to record the laughter. You know, Aaron Rodgers will be 43 next year. You know, boy, could Geno's stock have fallen more in a year? Woo-wee. Tua, Kyler Murray. By the way, I've got Minnesota in my head. If I'm the Vikings, what do I do? If I'm the Vikings, I'd call John Lynch up right now and say, what's it going to take for Mac Jones? Now. Right now. Pelican Roofing of Florida text line. First texter said, I'd give a second round to San Francisco and take Mac Jones and be thrilled. Done. And if I'm the Vikings, that's what I would do, by the way. That's what I would do. I've got cap issues. I'm 40-something million over the cap today. Now, I'll rework some contracts. I'll cut some guys. I'll get there. But I can get Mac Jones for $3 million for this year, sign him into a long-term extension. By the way, you can sign him to the Darnold Baker extension. Three for $100. And that's the only thing I'd ask of John Lynch. I need an hour with him and his agent. Okay? that's what I would ask for. I don't know if he'd give it. But I'm serious. It's put up the set of time. Pick 49s, Minnesota. Yeah, okay. By the way, I believe that's right around where the Eagles got Hurts. 49-50-51 is where they drafted Jalen Hurts back in the day. So, you know, the time for talking is over. You got to decide. You need a quarterback. whether you just want to get through one year or whether you're like, you know what? I can't take my chance in the 2026 or 2027 draft. I'm going to hitch my wagon to somebody for the next three years, blah, blah, blah. These are the choices, man. Tua, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, Kirk Cousins, 43-year-old Aaron Rodgers. That's if he wants to play. Mack Jones you got to trade for. Who else? Oh, yeah, Malik Willis. Going to cost you three for $100. That sounds about right. That sounds about right. Pelican roofing a Florida text line. Gentleman says, if I'm the Vikings, I'm going hard after Aaron Rodgers. And if you can't get him, Mack Jones for a second rounder is a no-brainer. Okay, good. That's at least a plan. Let's go. had a Steelers fan in the chat room says they want Geno Smith. Put him back with DK. Okay. Okay. Not going to take much. No, Raiders are going to be like, you know, what's that old, you know, take my wife, please. Here you go. Take them.
