Tony Hawk on Skateboarding vs. Trick Shots + Sports Video Game Draft (with Dude Perfect)
109 min
•Apr 15, 20264 days agoSummary
Dude Perfect hosts an episode featuring skateboarding legend Tony Hawk and Harlem Globetrotters Torch George and Moussha Tutei Winsley. The episode covers Tony Hawk's evolution in skateboarding, his iconic Pro Skater video game franchise, the Masters golf tournament experience, NBA playoffs preview, and a sports video game draft featuring guests.
Insights
- Video games can authentically represent and popularize niche sports; Tony Hawk's Pro Skater introduced millions to skateboarding and influenced a generation of pro skaters who learned tricks from the game first
- Extreme sports success requires balancing competitive drive with entertainment value and fan engagement, especially for touring performers who play 100+ shows annually
- Legacy athletes must adapt their competitive mindset with age; Tony Hawk shifted from pursuing new tricks to creative technical variations and mentoring, while maintaining daily practice
- Authentic brand partnerships that preserve sport integrity (final approval on gameplay, music, skaters) create lasting cultural impact versus purely commercial endorsements
- AI dependency for low-stakes decisions (fantasy brackets, simple analysis) undermines personal engagement and sports knowledge development among casual fans
Trends
Skateboarding mainstream acceptance through Olympics inclusion and cultural vernacular (kickflip as common knowledge)Entertainment-first sports formats gaining traction (Savannah Bananas, Harlem Globetrotters tours) as alternative to traditional competitive structuresCreator-led sports tours (Squad Games Tour) combining competition with influencer partnerships and live entertainmentNostalgia-driven demand for remastered classic sports games (Tony Hawk's Underground specifically mentioned by fanbase)Cross-sport athlete partnerships and collaborations (Tim Tebow, Ben Roethlisberger joining Squad Games Tour)Extended touring schedules (100+ games, 6-month tours) becoming standard for entertainment-focused sports organizationsAI tool adoption for sports analysis and decision-making among casual fans, raising questions about authentic sports knowledgeExtreme sports athletes extending careers into their 50s+ through modified trick selection and mentorship roles
Topics
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater video game franchise impact and legacySkateboarding evolution and trick progression across generationsMasters golf tournament traditions and Augusta National course managementNBA playoffs format and playoff seeding strategyHarlem Globetrotters touring operations and entertainment modelSports video game draft and gaming nostalgiaAthlete aging and competitive mindset adaptationBrand partnerships in action sportsBaseball stadium food innovationCollege baseball undervaluationGuinness World Records in sports entertainmentAI dependency in sports fandomTrick shot precision and perseveranceSquad Games Tour competition formatSkateboarding as art versus sport
Companies
Activision
Developed Tony Hawk's Pro Skater franchise; gave Hawk final approval on gameplay, music, skaters, and locations
Birdhouse Skateboards
Tony Hawk's skateboard company; recommended as quality option for beginners learning to skate
Tony Hawk Foundation / Skate Park Project
Hawk's nonprofit building public skate parks in underserved communities
Augusta National Golf Club
Masters golf tournament host; discussed traditions, merchandise, pricing strategy, and recent audience expansion efforts
Harlem Globetrotters
Featured guests; 100-year touring organization with 100+ annual games across 50 countries
Savannah Bananas
Entertainment-focused baseball team; compared to Globetrotters model; Squad Games Tour opponent
Supreme
Skateboard brand that became major fashion brand; example of skate culture influence on mainstream
Texas Rangers
MLB team; featured wearable sombrero nacho rally food innovation
Colorado Rockies
MLB team; introduced 24-inch Glasilla hot dog stadium food item
People
Tony Hawk
Guest discussing skateboarding evolution, Pro Skater game impact, and aging athlete mindset adaptation
Sheryl Torch George
Guest discussing 9-year Globetrotters career, Guinness World Records, and entertainment-sport balance
Moussha Tutei Winsley
Guest discussing Globetrotters touring operations, competitive mindset, and ball-handling expertise
Garrett Hilbert
Co-host discussing Masters golf experience, NBA playoffs analysis, and AI dependency concerns
Tyler Toney
Co-host discussing Masters golf, college baseball, and sports video game preferences
Rory McIlroy
Masters 2024 winner; discussed as back-to-back champion and world number one contender
Scotty Scheffler
Masters contender; discussed as best player throughout weekend despite not winning
Sean White
Referenced as pro skateboarder with crossover snowboarding ability
Alan Iverson
Referenced by Globetrotter as role model for competitive nature and authentic style
Steph Curry
Referenced as role model for movement without ball and sustained elite performance in 30s
Chris Paul
Referenced as recently retired role model for playing the game the right way
Michael Jordan
Referenced as GOAT with unmatched competitive nature and dog mentality
Ben Roethlisberger
Squad Games Tour participant; guaranteed victory with specialized competition team
Tim Tebow
Squad Games Tour participant bringing star power to competition events
Mark Rober
Squad Games Tour participant and guest stop
Zach King
Squad Games Tour participant and guest stop
Jackson Olson
Known to Globetrotters; Savannah Bananas player referenced for entertainment baseball innovation
Kyrie Irving
Worked with Globetrotter Tutei on Uncle Drew movie; referenced for ball-handling excellence
Quotes
"I had actually met with a couple of software companies a couple of years prior to connecting with Activision and I had pitched a video game to them to which they just were incredulous. They said why, I mean literally one guy said skateboarding is being popular, why would a video game about skateboarding be popular?"
Tony Hawk•Video game discussion
"You just gotta keep trying, and then as complicated as skateboarding has become, nowadays there are some tricks where it's like, I'm only gonna do it once, because I cannot go through that process again."
Tony Hawk•Skateboarding evolution
"There's a generation of contemporary professionals these days that started skating. They told me because they played the game. That's the biggest compliment I could ever ask for."
Tony Hawk•Pro Skater impact
"At the end of the day, those kids are just going to remember how you made them feel. That you acknowledge them, that you smile at them, not that you missed a shot."
Sheryl Torch George•Entertainment-sport balance
"I feel like I'm at home having to eat some really, really bad sports takes that are just begging me to reply. And I don't. I have to stir the pot, dude. Like we can't have two guys that just agree on everything."
Garrett Hilbert•AI and sports knowledge rant
Full Transcript
I had actually met with a couple of software companies a couple of years prior to connecting with Activision and I had pitched a video game to them to which they just were incredulous. They said why, I mean literally one guy said skateboarding is being popular, why would a video game about skateboarding be popular? Welcome to Almost Athletes with Dude Perfect, a wave original fall of the show on all social media at Almost Athletes. Like and subscribe to us on YouTube or listen and subscribe or ever get your podcast. We're your host, I'm G. I'm Spark. I'm T. Welcome back dude. Welcome back dude. Before we get into the weekend dude, we have been nominated for a Webby Award. Whoa! Yeah, for Best Creator or Influencer Series and we would love to have your vote. Voting is open till tomorrow night, April 16th, so click the link in the description and vote for us please, please, please, but that's after you give us the five star review. Wow. Five star review? Have we ever won a Webby? No, I think this is the first time we've ever been up for a Webby tie. You'll recall with like the shameless plug there. He triple-pleased it. He triple-pleased it. Please, please, please dude. I thought that was a little much better than one less please. Here's the deal, I've been listening to a lot of pods and they just hammer their own stuff right off the get go dude. Okay. Please, please, please, please, please. Webby, I guess we'll pull in five star. Webby Award vote. Here we go. Good to have you back Ty. First of all, you passed the smell test. Thank you. Smell delicious. Might be the coffee you're sipping. No, it's a fresco. Went with y'all red? Yeah, just got the new City Connect jersey in. Tried it on, kind of loved it and said I'm going to rock it for the pod. So shout out Texas Rangers. I love you guys. Obviously, longtime fan supporter. A lot of great memories. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, personally, I saw the Bluebonnet jersey preview. I fell in love with that one. Still love this jersey though. Awesome. Next year dude. The hats are sick too. Yeah, and that's kind of like multi-purpose because it gets sent for Tyler. Yeah, you never know. Taxis. You never know. What an episode we have coming up boys. First off, we're going to talk about the Masters. Y'all went. Can't wait to hear about it. What a finish it was. Rory, back to back. We're also going to have the Goat of Skateboarding. Tony Hawk will join us for an interview. And so will the original Trick Shot Masters, the Harlem Globe Trotter, stopping by Loaded Ep. Plus, we're going to preview the NBA Playoffs and give you an exclusive squad games tour guest preview. Loaded episode. Masters boys, does it ever get old? No. Like going to the property? It's literally the best week of the year. What makes it so best? I mentioned this while we were walking the course. You just run in to so many people. Yeah. Like Rory, Scotty. No, like people you haven't seen since elementary school. You're like, dude, this is crazy. How are we connecting on the 11th fairway right now? It's just crazy. So there's that. Obviously, just the aura around what the Masters brings, man. It's just, it's number one, the most competitive golf tournament there is. The history behind it. The elegance to it. Just all of it. It's just amazing. The scenes. Yeah. The no phones is just a nice like just plug out, you know, just get away from it. I don't even like pimento cheese, but I find myself getting pimento cheese every day when I'm there. Yeah. I don't know. It's just something about it. And you combine it with the barbecue sandwich and get you a Georgia Peach ice cream sandwich at 9 AM because why not? Why not? For four dollars. Yeah. Great prices. Reasonable pricing too. They have held strong and I commend the chairman for keeping those prices lower. Made the Wednesday presser. I was about to say that. Speaking of the chairman, the comments. You know, because all he did was reurgitate the exact same feeling that as soon as that got green lit that we felt about it. Yeah. I think we're here. I think he said it. He said it in a class classful way. Like he was just saying, which I, if I'm the chairman and I'm guessing he gets a bunch of asks, not only from non-golf creators, but all creators now because we were a non-golf creator. I think it was probably time to nip it all in the bud right then and there and just be like, hey, look, there's a tradition that we like to keep here and maybe we crossed the line a little bit. So let's keep the ass to a minimum now. We're going to keep this. Yeah. Keep this a... I understand the criticism. I do too. I understand it. But you also got to keep in mind that the video was created for us and for Augusta National. The video was created for non-golf fans, specifically the younger audience who is not into golf. And you can argue whether that was right or wrong. Did appreciate the chairman at least throwing out. He still likes us. He does like those guys, which I thought was a nice little ad. Was a nice ad. The second sentence was big. The second sentence was big. But yeah, I mean, I get it. I do. Obviously, we just said it, Spark, but we had those same reactions like, Godly, should we do... Kind of felt guilty. Do we actually want to do this? Almost kind of felt guilty rolling up to the course. Like, you want to yell here? I'm really like, we're here to throw frisbees at Amen Corner. Oh, and Augusta National comes calling. Yeah. You say, yeah. And you know what? So no awkward interactions with Fred. No, everything. It's chairman, dude. Chairman Ridley. Yeah. Not Fred. Yeah, you should take that back. Yeah, I don't know him on it. Y'all can maybe call him. No, no. Chairman Ridley, man. Like it's... Chairman Ridley, yes. Yeah. But no, it is a year where like, I do think, like you can see, like Augusta's all about tradition. You know, that's why I think I love it the most because I went to Texas A&M, which is all about tradition. But they're trying to bring a new audience in and, you know, with the merchandising hot ticket item from the Mahjong set that you could only get at Berkman's. Wasn't fortunate to come home with the Mahjong set, even though that was kind of our number one task item to us from the wives. And you failed? We didn't get it done. Yeah, we didn't. But there's so many people that are so mad at like the egg salad hat or like the Pimento cheese hat. So many people that are mad that they're golf purists that are just like, bro, like, why are we... Why do you care? Like, Augusta's trying to just bring in a new... You know, they're getting the most patrons they've ever had. Like, after COVID, they've really tried to do it, bring in new people. I love what they're doing. So I understand Chairman Ridley's comments. Like, they are trying to push the boundary. Maybe that's not the way they should have pushed their boundary. You know, and so I like, I get it. That's fine. Like everything is fine. But as far as the golf itself went, what a tournament. What a tournament indeed. And the weather obeyed too. Yeah, first time. So we've gone, what, the last, this was our fifth or sixth year? Sixth. Sixth year. And there's been rain every single year that we've been there. First year where the weather actually looked great all weekend. I think the course and the tournament showed it. But we were talking on the way back, pretty substantial group of winners. You got Rory, Rory, Scotty, Romm, Hadecky. Yeah, Hadecky then. DJ. Yeah. Start from a, hey, some pretty high power champions in recent years. Like, I feel like we're due for some, for some out of nowhere winners coming up. I just don't think, I don't think it's going to happen. I don't, you will have your random, uh, will it could have happened if Rory would have blown it and you would have had your Cam Young or I really want Justin Rose to win it, man. I thought he had a deserving champion. He is. He's running up, man. He's got to make his time table is running out for 45. So maybe next year. What have been the oldest first time winner? Look, maybe next year, if Rory's up by two and Justin's right there, triple bogey for the guy. Yeah. Do you need a third or should we give your buddy one? Yeah. You know? Yeah. Uh, I was rooting for a playoff. No doubt. Well dude, if Scotty makes that putt on 17, it is a playoff. I know, I know. He had two chances at the end too. Oh, that would have been electric. Happy for Rory. I was definitely rooting for a playoff. I was rooting for J-Day or Cam Young, honestly, like the last day of the tournament. Cam Young even had so many ops on the back nine. Just to get that one or two. They played mine a lot of parts. Just couldn't get that early. Yeah, nobody, nobody really, really pushed Rory there. I mean, you got, you know, Sam Burns even early got the birdie on one and then he looked like me at Frisco Lakes after that. And you had a couple other people push. Dude. Jay Rose push, then kind of fell off. Yeah. People just don't understand when they look on TV because everything's manicured to perfection and it's just a perfect golf course. They don't understand you have to be on the property to see it. Like it doesn't matter if you're center fairway. Like if it's not on the proper side to hit, you're in trouble. Yeah. Like you're- Even if you're on the green and green regulation, does not matter. If you're on the wrong, you know, low side or high, like you're in trouble. Like it is that golf course. That's what makes it so fun. A true golf course, which I think is just amazing is like Scotty Schaeffler can go out there and struggle with it or shoot, you know, could shoot a 63. Your members who could be, you know, whatever 15, 20 handicaps could go shoot low or struggle with it. That to me makes a good golf course. Yeah. And it's really tough to piece together four rounds there too. Yeah. Because you saw Scotty on the weekend, best player throughout the weekend, bogey free back to back rounds. Well, speak even saying that he played better than this one than when he won. That's telling. Yeah. The experience matters there, the layout of the course, all that. That's why you don't see, I feel like the random Danny Willets a ton of the times. No. It's like you have to go through your, you know- And that's why Rory's so good because he's played it, is this is 18th or 17th time that you just get that. Now he's gotten the, I always think Rory's going to have a little bit, everyone's going to have trouble with that. They're going to double, you're going to have one hole that's like- It's really how you respond to the blow up hole there because the blow up hole is going to happen over 72 holes. His hole is 11. He just can't happen Saturday, dude. Watered it. 11 just gets him. I'll see him though. I can't wait for him to show up. Even 13, trying to hit the fairway, which is a tough tee shot, especially for a long hitter because you really got to risk it going over the trees. I'm bummed man. I'm a little depressed that it's over. Got to wait another 365 for that week. Well, like 361, that's the good news. More like 360. But, yeah, it was super fun. My kids, we ordered the taste of the masters. Your pimento cheese, your potato chips, your egg salad, cookies. It's attention to detail, which is refreshing to go out there and everything just be so well thought through. Stuff you don't even realize until almost somebody tells you every little detail. I mean, seeing the not being able to see cart pass from the tee box, like where they've got the road and stuff going. That's what I'm saying. It's just everything about that place is so- There's intentionality. So intentional, so well thought through that you can't not go out there and just be amazed, astonished. I mean, it's unbelievable. I want to run this organization like that. Well, I was about to say funny enough, we walk into here on a Monday and it feels just the opposite of what the masters do. Sometimes you don't know what- We got a lot of work to do, man. Yeah, you don't know what's going on. With this win though, is Rory in the conversation world number one? Oh, yeah. Yeah, got to be. Yeah, I mean, was it Freddie? Couples who said Rory could go win this thing for the next like four years. It was, I, he can't, but- Why? It's because next year now the conversation goes the pressure of winning three in a row. Yeah, but that was the same pressure that you had this time. Yeah, no, I mean- It's just a new record. It is. It's not going for your first, but pressure obviously, I mean, is a real thing. I'm taking the- You feel a 18 tee shot. Yeah, I'm taking the field next year versus Rory. No question. That's fair. Tiger will be back, you know. Fingers crossed. But he should be number one, I think. I don't know how the official world golf rankings work, but I bet it Skyrocked and Men number one. It gets really tough when you talk about PGA live and all the cross over there. Well, you got PGA now, a round of it coming up in May, then the U.S. Open at Shinnecock and the British. I don't know where the British has played this year. How about Rory taking a shot at our Texas course tournaments? He should. What did he say? He said, basically they were saying, were you just saving energy for Augusta? Is that why you didn't play in the other tournaments? She was like, I just don't really like the tournament in Houston or San Antonio. I was like, yeah, that's fair. Same reason I don't play in those. Yeah, Texas is not the greatest golf state of all time. No, even the shot at the PGA, which I mean, it will like no offense to the winner of, I hope it's Spieth because I will wrap up the Grand Slam. So you can't say this about Spieth, but let's say it's a random, you know, a first time major winner. Like your only major win is at PGA Frisco. Yeah, that's tough. It's tough. It's still one more major than, you know, you didn't have. Yeah. I know dude, but it's not, it's not, you know, Iranamid. It's not a course with a bunch of history. Yeah. Before wrapping up, boys, aliens attack us. You can pick one golfer to make an eagle to save human civilization. What hole? It's a great question. I mean, I would take him to Westridge. 100% genius actually. Okay, Augusta. Okay, cool. Part five seconds. He's going to drive the green out of Westridge. Yeah, I'm going, I'm going number two. And yeah, I'm probably taking Rory. Do number two? Yeah. Short par five downhill. Yeah, that's a tough one. It depends on the flag plate. It's a Sunday pin. 15? That's way, way riskier. I mean, Rory played pretty well at 15. Yeah, I'm going number two all day. Yeah, I'm also going number two, Louis Eustaisen, because I always think about it. Does it have to be Augusta? No, I mean, I guess not. To your point, though, if it's not Augusta, you just go down the streets of the little Muny and bring Ram with you. Yeah. Man, it's good to be, I feel like golf's officially kicked off though for the year. It's going to be a good year, man. I feel like you got charged up. A couple of egg salads. Pimento cheese, brother. Pimento cheese. I'm not an egg salad guy. Really? No. No. Do you let them know it's straight off the property there in Augusta though? Like, hey, this isn't just your standard issue jack-in-the-box drive-through. Oh, no, no, no. Hey, but egg salad. I'm a Pimento Cheese guy. Can we talk about Tyler's Pimento Cheese sandwich in his bag? Oh, yeah. Oh, gosh. Did you? You would have sold that on eBay for a large amount of coin. This was kind of a... How long was it in the bag? This was a low moment for me. We are going... Was this Australia bucket list video? That feels right. I don't... It was overseas somewhere. I don't know where it was. I think we were actually going to New Zealand, so Australia didn't even catch this. But going to New Zealand, they're obviously very protective. They're in Ireland. You're not bringing anything in or anything out. We're also doing COVID. Protect this place. If you guys got anything in your bags that we should know about, you're bringing in more than 10 grand. Fruits, seeds, Live stock, whatever. We're like, no. Bro, can't even have grass on your shoes. Yeah. Yeah, like there... If your boots are muddy, they're like, no, you got to clean them before you come in. Clean them off, dude. So we're like, no, we're good. They got the dogs out there going through security. Boom. My golf bag goes through. Instant light up. Dogs are on it. They're like, we got something in here. This isn't new for you though. You get stopped at TSA quite often. It's got a history there. I have a history with TSA getting stopped for hunting paraphernalia sometimes. It's left over. It's left over in my bag. But I was like, I haven't taken my golf bag on a hunting trip recently, so surely there's no leftover ammo or anything in my golf bag. What if you could have the most reliable Wi-Fi at the same price for five years? That's the Xfinity five-year price guarantee. No annual contracts, no hidden fees, and our best equipment included. Plus, get online in minutes with same-day Wi-Fi. Just five years of fiber-powered Wi-Fi that boosts speeds to the devices that need them most. Lock in your price and unlock the possibilities. Xfinity. Imagine that. Select plan's only restrictions apply powered by fiber connected to the premises by coaxial cable. Actual speeds vary. So I'm really confused at this point. Dog is like, lighten up this bag. There is clearly something in here. And lady goes to unzip. I mean, you would think she was, there's a bomb. There's a bomb in this bag, and we've got to be careful. Well, there was. Unzip it. And they, with gloves, I think she had tongs at one point, pulls out this rotten, dirty, smelly-looking green package, and immediately I'm like, oh my gosh, that is a Augusta egg salad. Egg salad sandwich that was not from this past year, because I hadn't used this travel bag in a long time. So it was two years old. Egg salad sandwich in this bag. And she's like, do you know what this is? And I'm like, unfortunately, I think I do. I remember seeing it. The dog got sick, threw up. No, he didn't. But that would have been wild. I mean, it's half I expected that. Dude, that would have been awesome. I remember it having like a mini fro, a mold coming out of the packaging. Oh, it was so nasty. Those dogs were going wild. Oh, so gross. Anyways, I would have locked you up for that. I didn't think I was getting through after that, but they took it out and I was like, sorry about that. That's on me introducing a new mold into New Zealand. But we're good. We made it through and it was fine and everybody was safe. But it was a little bit of a... Just kind of make my tummy hurt a little bit. Yeah, we had a quarantine because of that. It was gross. Some people say COVID originated from your golf bag, possibly. Thankfully, it was after, so you can't draw that connection. But if there was a new one after that, I wouldn't be shocked. Safe to say we didn't bring home any egg salad sandwiches in the golf bag this year. Left them all there. Good play. Yeah. That was fun, boys. Golf is good. I'll tell you what, God is good and so is golf. Yeah. Boys, NBA playoffs, they're starting this week. Kind of caught me off guard. Again, though, I want to double down and reiterate just how beautiful, majestic this time of the sport year is. I'm telling you, dude, it's so good. I'm telling you, it's arguably the best. It really does. I watched that Magic game after the Masters and they were up by like 18 and then Celtics went on a like 30 to five or on or something crazy. They could not miss. I want to say this for the NHL too. We're out thinking ourselves when it comes to the playoff format. How so? To me, the NBA play in is actually incentivizing teams to tank because when you allow more than half the league in the playoffs, those teams who aren't in that are really prioritizing their draft pick, there's no incentive for them, in my opinion. The more teams you allow in, the more these bottom teams are like, yeah, we've got to sell. I don't know. It's just, I didn't think there was anything wrong with the one through eight format. One plays eight, four plays five, two versus seven, three versus six. I wish the NHL would do that because now you're seeing a scenario where the Dallas Stars, our beloved Dallas Stars are going to open the first round against the conference's three seat, Minnesota Wild. It makes no sense to me. Where like Utah is playing nobody. Correct. Like where's the incentive to go out in the regular season and earn that two seat? For what? You know? It's not, yeah, it's not, the NHL is definitely not fair. And it's, you're, and I understand the commissioner's like, we want good hockey right off the bat. Like, bro, I mean, they spent all the year getting to this spot. Like this is crazy to eliminate one of these teams this quickly. Correct. And now you've front loaded it where, yes, those series are going to be awesome at the start of the postseason. But in reality, the Western Conference finals would look completely different. They would with the regular formatting. So I feel the same way about the NBA. I just feel like once you invite too many people to a party, all of a sudden it's not as prestigious of a party. And you're just saying that's not the case for college football because there's no draft that teams are trying to keep in the back of their mind. That and the fact that there's just quantity. There's a lot more teams than in the NBA. It's just too many. It's just too many. What did I say? Did I say Celtics and Celtics, San Antonio? Who do I say? I did say season and essay, which I think I was on the same boat, but I really wanted to see the Pistons make it. I think I had Pistons Thunder. You had Celtics. San Antonio. San Antonio, which is good pick. That's trendy. Ty, if you had to pick a winner, I'll go. I'll go nuggets, dude. Give me the nugs. The nuggies? Yeah. Some nuggies and Pistons. Okay. Wow. A little small market NBA finals. I'm here for. No one's watching that final. Well, I mean, I want to be different, but that's funny, dude. Oh yeah. Did see Doc out in Milwaukee. So Giannis is going to be the next head coach it looks like. Wow. He thinks so. Well, if he coaches anything like he did that celebrity basketball game, I think he's, he could do well as a coach. Yeah. He was coaching. Where is he headed? You think Giannis makes me feel kind of like the, a little bit of kind of, I hate to say this because I love the Rangers, but it's true. Just a little bit of one and done. Yeah. I don't know if he has that like. But he got his one. Yeah. Now granted, took some injuries to get there, but they forget about those. I just don't know. Like he's like, maybe pair him up with somebody like, I don't know. He's just not a big market player to me. Call me crazy. Yeah. I like to do hot takes here anyway. So yeah, you'll bury me in the comments. Come at me, dude. I don't think Giannis is hot five NBA player. You're entitled to your opinion. You're also going to hear about that. I just don't think he is. You're entitled to your opinion. You're also entitled to get lit up in the comment section. Yeah. I think 48 year old LeBron is better. He's only 41 right now. He has room to grow into that role. I think he's in love with golf though. Bronze, all eyes on golf, man. You can't blame him at this point in his career. I think he goes down. Reeves go down. What determines a good basketball player? Like the top five basketball. What determines it? Oh, I think there's that's a way to question. Currently playing in the NBA. What determines the top five? Obviously, overall skill level accolades plays into it. Team success. So I don't love the accolades. Because like at the end of the day, like is it per year or is it? I'm not I'm asking per year. So the accolades don't really matter to me. I think Cooper flags the top five NBA player. Yeah, I don't think you're wrong with that. Now we don't have the accolades and he might not be next year. But this year. Unbelievable. Yeah. Like I think he's top five. Yeah. Ability to create your shot and score. And defend. I think the yeah, being two way nowadays is really a big thing. Yeah. For the longest time, a lot of people just, you know, shooting the perimeter. There's one trick ponies nowadays. It's like, you gotta have all facets. We got Wimby probably number one overall. Yes. Yes, we agree. I agree with that. Luca number two. Yeah, I went healthy. But I mean, sure. Luca number two, SGA. Oh, you have to put SGA. But that's what I'm saying. Like we're already at three and Yannis has names not even come up yet. I don't think he's just out five NBA players. Yeah, that's fair. When you talk it out that way and list your top five, he's on the outside looking in. So my point is like, I don't know, like, do you trade all your picks and stuff to go get this guy or I don't know. Yeah, it's team to team type thing. Definitely not with the Mavericks. And he was linked to Dallas for the longest time. But now with Cooper there, that would make about negative sense. Comment below where you think Yannis is going and comment below who you think will be in the NBA finals like your pick, Ty. That's good. Thanks, dude. Next, boys, baseball stadium food check in. Since we went through this year's new baseball stadium foods, there have been a lot of new entries starting with the Colorado Rockies to the glasilla. Whoa, that bad boy right up my alley. That's a ridiculous dog, dude. One pound. How many innings does it take you to dominate that? How do they even how do they even make that, dude? I don't want to think about it. You know, my only complain is I don't like the bun to wiener ratio. You're saying there's too much meat. The ween's a little big. It's definitely sticking out. You're two bites of the ween before you even get to the bun. No, you make a good point. Yeah, I didn't get it blocked off in the back. It's like a haircut. You know, yeah, I'm not buying that. Forty five. Yeah, you also expect a little bit more if you're if you're paying forty five for a hottie, you know, five inches of just meat, 19 inch bun, 24 inches of dog. Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Wait, what? Two foot dogs. You got 24 inches, 19 inch buns. So there's a that's crazy. There's a there's a just make the bun the same size as your dog. The five inches, I think I think you cut the five off. Yeah, yeah. And you just call it over. You just call it the glasilla anyways, even though it's just a 19 inch dog. Who cares? Nobody's complaining about the extra five. That's like the twins wearing a size 13 shoe. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. We're going to excel. Sure, which is a lot of yeah. And the Rockies, not the only one getting in on the fun, our own Texas Rangers introduced a wearable ninth inning rally sombrero. Got the chips on the noggin, the dip up top, all the fixings. How do we feel about this one, boys? I do. This is brilliant. Ty had a great idea. Ty, tell him about it. So one, I think one of our coworkers went and got the sombrero nachos. And I was like, dude, I love the idea of this. But the problem is not necessarily a problem. The win win is if you can convince the guy sitting in front of you. Yes, to go by the sombrero nacho and wear it. And then you get to just sit there and just off the top. You don't because this is this is cumbersome trying to get it. You don't know what you're getting. You don't know what you're getting. You don't want to be able to see it from the guy in front of you. And you've got it. So if you can convince the guys in front of you, hey, go buy a sombrero nacho. I got you. I'll take care of it. Just a little. So when you guys go now, you're not buying the seat next to your buddy, you're buying the seat in front of you. And you're just going to have a line line of sombreros. Really? Oh, that's genius. Yes. Yeah. You just got to have the friend that's willing to be the sacrificial sombrero. And you can dip in. It's like a sombrero conga line. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Brilliant. How you do it. That's that's brilliant. But what if you're the guy at the top? Then I guess you're great because you got nobody. Nobody. Yeah, you know, you're a sombrero. You want to be the guy at the top. I don't want to be front row Joe. But the guy at the bottom has got the best seat. Yeah, that's fair. So that's the trade off. You just have to go with your standard, you know, dollar hot dog with your big kahuna and you're still having a great. I'm telling you, you don't want to be the guy that the foul ball. I mean, that guy's flinging. Oh, yeah. Bang, right there. Oh, it's by the end of May, we're going to have footage of some rain. Some trying to make up for you. You allowed to do the wave. You're wearing the sombrero. Well, I'm anti-wave in general. You're not allowed to do the wave without the sombrero. So with it, it's banned. We need to stop the way. Lifetime ban. If you do sombrero and wave. Lifetime ban. Big fan of the sombrero. Also called the rally sombrero. Do you have to be trailing? You feel like no. You initiate the rally. Limit yourself. I mean, that's some revenue that you're generating right there. Relatively cheap item that you can sell for a big ticket price. And I think you're really, you're really pleased with the quality that you get there. Being able to break open the actual sombrero shell at the end and really dig into that nice soggy layer. You're a fan. I'm a fan. Obviously, and you're really tapping into Texas, you know, heritage with a cowboy hat going on. Well done, Rangers. You know what I mean? Brero, it's not a cowboy hat. There's some. You know what I miss most about baseball games? What? The lemon chills. Yeah. God, man. Dude, I just. I know the brands kind of figuring out what to do next. Like, let's bring that back. Are you a lemon chill or strawberry? Strawberry. Strawberry. OK. I actually like the original. I like the lemon. I like the strawberry, too. But if I got a choice, I'm going the lemon. Situational. Yeah. Reading the game. First and third, nobody out. That's more of a lemon based chill. Yeah. Nobody on. Freshening strawberry. Yeah, I get that. Well, Rangers got a big one. I did. Over the doctors and. Look, I'm an Aggie through and through. I swept the longhorns. Hmm. I saw the ball five. You know, we're up to usual tricks now. Granted, game three did get canceled. So we just won the first two. But still, that's sweet. The rain. That's good stuff. So slosh is. Time and college station. First time back didn't go so well. I forget about the whole slosh. Yeah. Deal. Yeah. So it's going to be a showdown. Ours for the get go for the next year. So bragging rights. And it is. We did. We got a good college baseball. I mean, we've said this a long time. Undervalued. If you guys haven't watched college baseball, watch college baseball. Super fun, dude. Super fun. I mean, high scoring games, metal bats really help. I mean, those. It's just more action, more hit and runs, more small ball. You really get an authentic feel for baseball. Fans get into it. It's fun. It's a good time. North Texas, please. Add a baseball player. All right, dude. Before we hit Tony Hawk, I think you wanted to say something, right? Yeah, squad games tour guests, official announcement time. Before we bring in Tony, we are thrilled to finally announce our full lineup of battle opponents for the squad games tour. 22 cities this summer. If you haven't already got tickets, this should be what pushes you over the edge. Some incredible squads that we're going to be going head to head again. So larger than life battles throughout each show. We've got the Savannah bananas. Ooh, that's going to be a tough one. We lost already to them. We did. But I feel good about these new battles. I like our chance. Oh, you kind of put it. I like our chance. Hey, that's the benefit of doing your own tour. Confused advantage, baby. You get to make the games. And when they make their own tour, then we go. They can make the games. We've got Good Good coming back for another round. Squeak that one out. Seven. In our first ever squad games. Harlem Globetrotters, the original Trick Shotters. What a great group. Yep, we'll talk to them later. And then the Trick Shot All-Star Squad, featuring various creators from our Trick Shot World Championship. That video just launched. If you haven't checked that one out, great video. It's so good. It's a great group of people. Shout out to the DP editing team. I was about to say it. For just continuing to blow us away. Continuing to blow us away, yeah. I said that right. Yeah, you did. Thick the words out of my mouth. And yeah, we'll have some more friends stop through along the way, including Mark Rober, Zach King, Tim Tebow, Ben Rofflessberger, Brandon Lake. I mean, it is everything you could ask for. Go to DudePerfect.com slash tour to see which squads are coming to your city. Get your tickets today. They are selling out fast. Ben Rofflessberger. That guy's just a competitive freak if he wants to get in on the squad games tour. He is, and he actually guaranteed a victory with the squad. Yeah, with no, for him. With the squad that he's putting together. And I've heard who's coming with him. And I am actually a little bit nervous because he has got guys specifically for the competitions. For each event. So he's not going for the well-rounded approach. He's going experts in every category, which we're going to see how that plays out for him. Feels like a sweep. We'll see. It could get away from us. It could get away from him. And he guaranteed it. And he guaranteed it. Well, I'm going to double down. I guarantee. He also wins Ben Rofflessberger. Tim Tebow, when you see that name, whoa, there's some star power heavy hitter. Yeah. We got a work cut out for us. We do. You know, we could have just invited like Blippi and probably taken care of business in four. But we want to test ourselves. Think about that. Yeah. It's interesting too that a lot of these challenges were gauntlets thrown down on this podcast. What do you mean? Ben Rofflessberger. Good, good. Like Savannah Bananas. These are all people we asked about how they'd fare. Somewhere Marquez Brownlee is irritated with us right now. No, we invited him. He had some conflicts. Well, he heard that there were no frisbee competitions too. And I think that was kind of his final straw. It's going to be a fun show. I already got the doctors on standby. Really? Yeah, I'm going to need it, dude. It's going to be a long tour for us. Bro, I'm going to need the massages, the- IVs. Chiropractors, the IVs, the peptides. Stunt double. Stunt double. The fake Garrett to attend a couple shows. There's going to be a section on the tour too where we sit down and have a little almost athlete to check. Yeah, I'm going to need to sit down because my heart rate's going to be 180 for two hours. Yeah, the amount of like one upping we're going to do to our own almost athlete's stories over the course of this tour. You're going to want to be there to watch Garrett pull a hamstring. It's going to be hilarious. Don't put that on me, bro. I'm kidding. I'm Tony and not an Achilles. Oh, god. Yeah. I'm cooked, dude. I'm cooked. Well, Ty, thanks for joining us, dude. Ty's going to stay for Tony. Oh, don't try and kick me, bro. My bad, dude. I was trying to get Tony for myself, dude. Lee, it's been a while. You just give me one second to see. Sorry about that, dude. You know what? Maybe I should leave. Maybe it's time for me to. Man. But hey, we got Tony Haught next. Almost. Hey. 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That's squre.com slash go slash a.a. Run your business smarter with Square. Get started today. Almost, almost, almost, almost. Our guest is more than just a skateboarding legend. He's one of the most influential action sports athletes of all time. He's built an empire through the iconic Tony Hawk's pro skater video game franchise, which introduced millions to skating. He's also the founder of Birdhouse Skateboards and the Tony Hawk Foundation, now the skate park project, helping build public skate parks across underserved communities. Please welcome the goat of skateboarding, the Birdman, Tony Hawk. Wow. Yeah, baby. Wow, thank you guys. I hope I can live up to that. Yeah, dude. How you been, Tony? Excellent. I still get to skate for a living for the most part. We have a grandchild who's actually in the next room. And life is good, thank you. Life is good, but you make us feel extremely old, Tony, when you mentioned a grandson there. I think a lot of us just picture you 90s up, which actually brings me to your Instagram post that you had with the Goo Goo Dolls, Iris, and I actually saw that over the weekend, man, hit me right in the heartstrings. It made me emotional, but job well done, that was awesome. I didn't think that would resonate so far as it did. I might have been a little more prepared for it. I just kind of threw it out there like, oh yeah, I hear some photos from the 90s, and it was like, oh wow, that is like the biggest social media posts I've ever done. That's awesome. We're not talking about above six milli likes on that thing. Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, it wasn't my heartstrings only that got hit by that. So you mentioned, Tony, you're still skateboarding at 57. Obviously, do we have to tone it back a little bit at this stage of a little bit? I definitely let some tricks go. I swallowed my pride on a few things that I used to be able to do, and maybe you could still do, but the risks versus reward is not worth it. I think that's where Gare's kind of at right now, his trick shot career. I think, yeah, the risk just, yeah, I'm not gonna do it anymore. Well, the rehab and just the rest that comes with going all out nowadays at our age, it takes a little longer to get back up to speed, but there's a lot of parallels, Tony, and what we do here at Dude Perfect with trick shots and what you did for the longest time, skateboarding, the success, the precision it takes, the failure, the luck involved. Yeah, if there's one thing we know as skaters, and I'm sure you guys do, the value of perseverance and the value of persistence and just not giving up, and even though it just seems like it's just so redundant and sometimes even hopeless, you gotta keep trying. You just gotta keep trying, and then as complicated as skateboarding has become, nowadays there are some tricks where it's like, I'm only gonna do it once, because I cannot go through that process again. I feel like the consequences of skateboarding is maybe a little bit more drastic than the trick shotting world. However, I will say our very first. There were techniques in my past that took a long time to develop, and then I kind of got them more mastered, and so I could throw them into routines and exhibitions and things, but nowadays, especially with new tricks, they're just so, they're so difficult and so precise that it's like, you're lucky to get one, and if you get it on video, that's all you need, and I feel like that's definitely a line with what you guys do sometimes. It's a young man's game out there. It is. So our very first video that we ever did, Tony, back in, we just hit 17 years. 2009. Yeah, 2009. We obviously grew up watching Fantasy Factory and Robin Big and all that stuff, which I know you had a piece in, and the very first video we ever posted was me skateboarding off of our roof. Unfortunately, I had the mindset to be a skater. I just lacked the actual skill set and skated off the roof and just bounced off the ground, essentially, and that was the end of my skateboarding career. Never made it past that. Played a lot of Tony Hawk Pro Skater, though, on the console and really enjoyed that. So yeah, definitely, although I never really got into the skateboarding game, was still very influenced and enjoyed a lot of the stuff that you created and very appreciative of that. So yeah, it's a huge piece. If you would have snapped your femur, though, you wouldn't have been as appreciative. Yeah, yeah, the consequences, again, a little bit harsher in the skating world. Tony, just like in sport, skateboarding, there's an evolution to it as time goes on. It seems like for the longest time in my childhood, you were trying to land the 900, and nowadays they're doing crazy things. Are you a believer, like I am, in sport, where it's like if you are a legend across whatever generation that you would find yourself a legend in today's skateboarding, or there are things that they're doing nowadays that you're just admittedly like, maybe I couldn't pull that off. Oh, wow. Well, that's hard to answer. I think for me, I've always seen skateboarding evolve, and from the very beginning, I thought you can always learn something new, and that was what I chased for years, I mean, 40 plus years. So when I see what's happening now, I feel like we helped to develop the building blocks for what it has become, and it's not that I'm, I don't, it's not that I definitely can't do some of the stuff that's happening now, but also it's more like I'm just happy that I can see it, progress the way it has. And so it's more exciting to me, yes, and some people say, well, there's 10 year old kids, they could do 900, and I was like, and that's amazing, because they know it's possible. And so that's what they strive to, that's what they strive for at an early age, but then they're gonna take that, and they're going to do something else with it, which is something that I've always admired about skating and skaters in general. It's just, there's no resting on your accolades. And the fact that I get to be still skating, is still active, but to watch this, and to really bear witness to it has been so much fun. I mean, the idea that skating is in the Olympics and that it reaches places like Uganda and Ethiopia, and people, the general public knows what a kickflip is, like all that stuff is wild to me now. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's more that what I see, the growth of skateboarding, especially with being in the Olympics, and being something that is more in the vernacular of mainstream, that people understand what a kickflip is these days, like all that just seems absurd to me, because when I was a kid, it was the furthest thing from cool you could do, and no one knew or cared what a kickflip was back then. I feel like something that is kind of unique to things like skateboarding and more of the extreme sports, and maybe even a little bit of the trick shot stuff is kind of what you said when somebody does something that hadn't been done before, it almost unlocks a belief that there's more out there that's possible. Well, that's what I've always loved about it, and I do agree that if something has been done, it's easier, that's not easier, but it just seems more viable that you can reach that goal, because you know it's possible. Yeah. And doing the stuff that you're not sure is possible is risky, but also much more rewarding. But the idea that a kid can get into skateboarding now and knows that handrails are something to be utilized with a skateboard, or that you could fly 10 to 15 feet above a ramp and spin three times around, they already know that going into it. So their idea is like, I'm gonna get to those stages and then see what else is there. But it's always been like that. And so, I'm not a commudant where I'm like, you guys don't understand how hard it was for us. We had to learn this stuff on concrete, we didn't have foam pits, we didn't have people spotting us, but that doesn't matter, because we figured it out. Was there a trick you haven't accomplished that you're still working on, or are you just trying to, when you go skate, it's just pure pleasure? Yeah, these days I don't have big directives. Sometimes I'll think of a new trick, but it's much more technical, it's not some high impact move. It's more like, oh, I could spin my board this way and land in this kind of grind, and there's a very niche population that is even gonna care about it or understand it. But it still makes me feel creative. I think that the one trick that got away from me, I tried for years, was an Ollie 720, which is basically a double spin in the air without grabbing your board. And I was so, I was so eager to see someone do it because I realized that that window has passed me by, that a few months ago, I put a challenge out to the skate community, and I said, first one doing Ollie 720, I'll give you 10 grand. And this kid from Japan, Al, came to my ramp and did it right in front of me. Wow, that's so awesome. That's incredible. 10 grand is what I've been saying. That's pretty cool. What was the trick that led to, was there one in particular that led to the majority of injuries or time off having to recover or anything? Was it that or was it something else? Well, I definitely paid my dues, trying 900s over the years. I broke my rib and really threw out my back a few times. I mean, that trick is so abusive that you only get about 10 to 20 tries at it before you, your body's like, okay, we're not doing this today. Wow. This isn't happening. But the one that really rocked me the hardest was doing the full loop ramp. Oh, yeah. It's something that I did. I figured it out. We actually built one and we took it on tour. We did shows, like five shows a week on this thing. But you cannot take it for granted and you can't sleep on it, so to speak. Like it's a do-it-all tour and then one day, I just kind of missed my timing and broke my pelvis, got a concussion, broke my thumb. I mean, just one fall on that thing is disastrous. Wow. That's a nice thing about trick shots. You don't have to worry about that. You get as many attempts as you want. Right. Maybe a labrum. Yeah, maybe. Maybe shoulder surgery at some point. You mentioned it, Tony. Obviously, there's risk, reward involved in just the nature that is skateboarding. Your head, shoulders, knees and toes have been banged up over time. When it comes to you as a father and a granddad, how is the balancing act of supporting them, wanting them to push the limits, but also having their best interests in mind and maybe protecting them? Is that a tough balance? It has been all along. I mean, I have four children of my own and two stepchildren and I mean, they're all grown up now, but keeping them safe was always a challenge, but also trying to let them explore their limits and try to push themselves a little bit. But they're also different. I mean, there's definitely a lot of nature over nurture because one of my kids was absolutely psychotic and we used to joke that you didn't babysit him, you went on death watch because he was always just getting into the most dangerous stuff and really had no sense of mortality. He got better as he got older and eventually figured it out and is a good skater too. But so having a grandchild, yes, we want, obviously he's so precious, we want to keep him safe, but we also have this learned experience from being parents to all these different kids that we're gonna kind of let him figure it out. I mean, for instance, he has a little bike here, not with pedals, but he pushes around on and he finally kind of figured out how to coast on it. So I'm letting him do that, but I watched it, I was taking a video of him and then I watched the video back and I realized that I kind of let him go a little too crazy and he fell right off of it. You fell off of it and kind of rolled to the side. He didn't want to get back on it. What was your background growing up? Did you play any other sports or was it always skateboarding from a young age? Like did you ever get into any other extreme sports or mainstream sports or anything like that? I played baseball and basketball when I was a kid. Okay. Mostly baseball because my dad, well, my dad was the coach of our team, which was problematic in a lot of ways. And then they appointed him president of the Little League of our region. And that was the year that I quit to devote myself to skateboarding. So that was a tricky conversation to have with him that I know you're the president of Little League, but I'm quitting Little League. And then I played basketball, but I never, I was really small for my age. So I didn't really thrive in basketball. I mean, I was quick and I could get around, but I couldn't really reach the hoop or anything. Okay, Tony, on this show, we are obviously called almost athletes. Is there a moment in your youth career or skateboarding career where, you just kind of had to wave the white flag due to embarrassing moment or something like that, where it was like, yeah, maybe I'm maybe not cut out for this? I think it was probably more basketball because I just felt like I, well, I definitely wanted to score, right? And so I'd go and I'd go with, I'm gonna score a basket this game. I'm gonna score a basket. And I think I only actually got a couple. Maybe they were just free throws even. I don't remember, but I remember thinking like, I'm not getting any better at this, even though I'm so determined. And every time I'd go skate, I would learn a new technique or a new trick. I mean, even just the most basic thing, but I remember my dad saying, he picked me up at the park one time, because I would be there until it closed. He picked me up at the skate park and he said, I said, oh, I feel like today was my best day of skating. And he said, well, you say that every time. I was like, well, yeah, that's the point. I'm getting better at it. But he was supportive. I just mean that I could tell that I had measured improvement and I didn't feel that way about other sports. So I can't say there was a distinct moment, but it was definitely a feeling I had. Well, safe to say, Tony, I think you made the right choice. Maybe you're a multi-time World Series winner, Cy Young Award winner, but I think you made the right choice there with skateboarding. For the kids nowadays who are interested in skateboarding, a lot of times in skateboarding, you may see a fall off after the young teenagers. What would you say to somebody who's an avid skateboarder who's wanting to push that into a young adult's age? What would you be your vice? Well, I would say firstly, just do it because of the enjoyment it brings you. Don't do it because the goal is to have fame or fortune. Because even if you do get some taste of that, it can't be fleeting. And it also can be a motivational killer because, okay, that's it. You've reached the status of professional or whatever it is. And sometimes people aren't motivated to go further with that. And so I feel like you just have to keep challenging yourself. And don't worry about how you compare. Don't worry about if you have accolades or not because the idea is that you're enjoying it. And it can be at any level. I would also say that if you love skating and you love the community of it, maybe being pro isn't the thing. Maybe it's just that you can be part of this really fun group. And you can do something else with it. You can do graphics, you can do videos, you can do team management or whatever it is that keeps you in it. What's your favorite sport outside of skateboarding? To like watch, participate in? Probably watching is snowboarding because I've been doing that ever since it was invented pretty much. Is there like similarities? Like if you're a good snowboarder, should you be a good skateboarder? Or does that translate? Not really. It translates a bit just to the balance on the board and feeling comfortable with speed and momentum. But when it comes to real tricks and aerials and things, it's such a different technique to get airborne with a board strapped to your feet and one that you can't really lean in the way that you do on a skateboard. And I only, speaking from experience, like I suck in the half pipe and I feel like I should be much better. That's a scary thought for somebody who's never been. Right? If Tony can't handle it, I don't think I ever have a prayer. Yeah, well, I'm okay in it. I just, I don't have the right technique. I don't have the right launching approach that I should and I feel there's part of me that's like, why I should be able to go like at least six or seven feet above this thing and spin and I just can't. I mean, I'm not trying to rekindle any kind of career, but and I do, I love surfing too. I mean, I'm so amazed at what surfing has become because it's emulate skateboarding now with the kind of aerials they're doing. Yeah, that's amazing. So Sean, why? Cause Sean, why to pretty good skateboarder, right? Like he can do half pipe. Yeah, he was a pro. Yeah, he's a special kind then. Yeah, but if the bird man's worried about technique and launch, then that tells me something I shouldn't be in that half pipe, man. I'm not saying like there are definitely some people that have a great crossover ability. It's funny though, because when you see them, if you see someone out on the streets or on the half pipe, you can tell if their main sport is snowboarding. You can just tell by their style. And it's not a bad thing. It's just obvious to skateboarders yet. Yeah, that's awesome. I think one thing that has always intrigued me about the extreme sports is the fact that there has to be some kind of creative aspect in your brain too. Football is just pretty dumb down. It's a hundred yards physical contact, but with skateboarding and some of these extreme sports, you almost have to visualize it beforehand. Would you say that's a key part to boarding is having the brains for it as well? I think so, yeah. I think just a lot of skateboarders that I know, I mean, just through the years, have been very artistic, creative people, their musicians as well, their artists, their photographers. And so because it is an individual pursuit and it is kind of just done in your own style and your own approach to it, even though, yes, it's subjective in competition, it's still art against art. And so I feel like there's such a creative force with skateboarders and even if you look at fashion, you know, like Supreme is one of the biggest fashion brands. That's a skate brand. That's how it started as a skate shop. But I think that to be a skateboarder, yeah, you've got to think outside the box. You've got to think about how can I use my strengths to make this trick my own? And now there are so many more outlets to show what you do. I mean, when I skated, the only way that you were recognized was in competition. That's it. There was no video, there was no YouTube, there's no social media. And there wasn't a big push to show people just out on the streets. There is now, obviously, but I just feel like I grew up in the age of what was your ranking? And to move up in ranking, you had to learn new tricks. So that became my big focus was I just want to learn tricks and a lot of people, they gave me a hard time about my style because they just said he's robotic, he's trick oriented and I was like, that's all I got. I don't have the style, it's cool. Would you say skating's more of an art or a sport? I think it's both. Like 50, 50 sport, 50 art. Sure, well, I think it really depends on the individual and their approach. There are plenty of people that are hugely successful skateboarders that don't compete. So they don't see it as a sport. That's fascinating. But then there are the Niger-Houstons, that their whole thing is competing and being super consistent and having strategy. And so it really just depends on where you fall in that spectrum. You mentioned competition. We're a competitive group of guys and as time goes on, it gets a little harder to itch that scratch. How do you itch that scratch? That is, I'm sure you're obviously you're a highly competitive guy, but at this point in your life, how do you go about that? I just, I think I've, well, I've learned to tone it down a bit because I'm old and I did learn the hard way that I'm not Peter Pan. I mean, four years ago, I broke my leg in the worst, one of the worst ways for sure. I broke my femur, compound fracture with the bone coming out of my hip. And even in those moments when it was super painful and I was immobile, I kept thinking, I'm gonna give back to it. I'm gonna give back to it exactly how I did. And then at some point through my recovery, realized, oh, this is not ever going to be the way it was. I definitely have to embrace my age and my position here. So nowadays, I just set little challenges for myself. For instance, I'm skating every day and I learned, I relearned backside hurricanes. And that is a trick that is straight out of 1985. It's not something that is going to be a sports center highlight or be a viral media clip, but that was fun for me and that was enough for that day. So I'm just trying to put it in context. Take you back to 2001, Tony, at Winner X Games. My college roommates just go to show how small the world is, won a bagel bite sweepstakes. Oh yeah. Got a thousand dollars and got to come hang out with you. His name's Brian Murrow. I've got the picture to prove it. And funny enough, he went to high school with these two. That is so funny. Do you have any recollection of this hangout? And if the answer is no, will you please say yes, just for Brian's sake? He wants you to say yes, so bad. Let me see if I had, was it, that was, Winner X Games, right? Winner X Games 01. He went out there with his brother and mother. It's incredible. Yeah. Okay, I'll tell you why I remember it because, well, that was my obligation to bagel bites. Was to show up the Winner X Games and be at a booth to do a meet and greet. So that was the reason I was there. That's awesome. What a great partnership. We got to get a bagel bite. Yeah, it's a great deal. I got to do something with them about, like six years ago, sort of a redux of my original partnership. It was super fun. I'm still a fan. I'm still a fan. Yeah, along that same line, who are some of your favorite partners throughout the years that you feel like helping able to sport or like looking back, you're like, man, that was actually really big for either your personal brand or the skating brand. Like some of your favorite partners, partnerships over the years. Well, that one for sure. I think just because they allowed me to highlight skateboarding in all of their marketing, you know, highlight skateboarding for what it really is. Yeah. Which was important to me. And they helped, I mean, honestly, McDonald's helped to build a bunch of skate parks when I had a partnership with them. But for sure, the biggest partnership brand endorsement I ever had in the one that is probably the reason I'm even here with you guys now is with Activision. Doing Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. I mean, that changed my life completely. And in the same vein of Bagelbites, they allowed me to portray skateboarding authentically, not some version of what they wanted to put out there. They, I had final approval of everything. The tricks, the skaters, the gameplay, the challenges, the locations. The music soundtrack. Yeah. And the music, yeah. So, I mean, that's definitely the one I'm most proud of and the one that resonates and has the most longevity. Do your kids still play the game or anything? Yeah. Well, my oldest son is actually a character in it because he's a pro skater. Okay. That's awesome. And so what they do, yeah, I can beat him though. Yeah, I can beat him though. Did you ever think when that first discussion was starting about Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and all that buildup was coming, did you ever think that it would have the life that it's had and the multiple iterations and all the success that's come with it? Never. Not a chance. When I first, well, I had actually met with a couple of software companies a couple of years prior to connecting with Activision. And I had pitched a video game to them to which they just were incredulous. They said why? I mean, literally one guy said skateboarding is being popular. Why would a video game about skateboarding be popular? Flowing ad budget on metrics that look great till the CFO sees them, that's bullspend. And marketers are calling it out in dashboard confessions. I remember telling my boss, it'll be good for the brand when leads were slow. Yeah, it wasn't. Cut the bullspend. LinkedIn lets you target by company, job title, and more. Advertise on LinkedIn. Spend $250 on your first campaign and get a $250 credit. Go to linkedin.com slash campaign terms and conditions apply. To which I didn't really have a good answer. So I kind of stopped having meetings after that. But eventually Activision contacted me and said we want to do a skate game. And so I said, okay, I want to make a game that skaters will appreciate and may inspire them to buy a PlayStation. That was my goal. And so as the game was getting released, they felt there was a buzz in the air. They have given some preview copies to outlets and they started talking about, what do you want to do for number two? And I was like, number two? What are you talking about? They said, well, we think that this one's going to do well. So we want to work on what will be next. And that was probably, that was the moment that I thought, oh, we actually did something that resonates beyond skateboarding. Yeah, I mean, for me, I think skateboarding, I tried to get into it. I just wasn't talented enough. It was partly because my mind was telling me, don't do this. Right. You didn't have to mind to that. The reason why golf games and skateboarding game, it gives kids the ability to do things that, you know, they wish they could do, but at the end of the day, it's not going to do it. It's not going to be a good goal for... Hey, honestly, the game allows me to do 900 still. So I love it. It's super fun. There you go. Live vicariously through the game. That's good. I still play the game on Switch. Yeah, same. Do you take great pride in just the spotlight that brought skateboarding? Because there's not a friend that I had growing up that didn't play. And some of us were boarders, some of us were not. But I think ultimately we can agree that it put a spotlight on skateboarding. You take obviously a lot of great pride in the fact of how you move the needle forward and just make skateboarding in general. Yeah, I mean, that was never the intention, but absolutely. There is a generation of contemporary professionals these days that started skating. They told me because they played the game. That's cool. And I mean, that's the biggest compliment I could ever ask for. Yeah, and in the ironically, they were playing the game and doing all of these impossible combinations of tricks to get points, right? But they thought that was based on reality. So when they became pro skaters, they made it reality. I mean, if you watch the combinations that people do now, so much of it was only possible in our video game 20 years ago. That's cool. All right, Tony, before we let you leave, we've got a game. We're gonna do the best sports video games of all time draft. We're all fans of gaming here at DP, so we feel compelled to play a special game with one of the goats of sport video games into a draft of the best sport video games of all time. I hope I know all the references. It's only fair, Tony, has the first pick. First pick of the draft. Okay, I will, I have to say, based on feedback I get from my own social media, which yes, it could be considered a vacuum, but the game that people most wanna see remastered of our series is Tony Hawk's Underground. Okay, and somehow that game resonates with this very specific generation, and I appreciate that people are so passionate about it. So I'm gonna have to go with that on their behalf. So are we bringing it back or? Wait, there's no plan as of now, but I'm just gonna plug it in here. Yeah, wait at that. I'm trying to manifest it, okay? Yeah, I love it, I love it. I guess my pick will be NFL Blitz. Yeah, that's what I was gonna go. I mean, just the countless memories you have like the arcade with the boys playing NFL Blitz. NFL Blitz, that's a good pick. Another arcs out of the draft right in front of you. It's taken. That was a great game. I'm gonna go, I feel like I gotta go here, spent again like Garrett, tons of hours playing it, the backyard sports video games series. Backyard baseball in particular. That's good pick. That's what I'm going with for first pick. Too bad you couldn't put Tyler Tony's backyard baseball. Tony just holds more weight. Yeah, I know. Tony got your name in the title. I can't say Sparky's PGA Tour right here. No. But I will go with a classic N64 Mario Kart, man. Mario Kart is somebody best Mario Kart. That's a sport. That's a sports video game. Yeah, it was racing, right? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, you're right, it is racing. That's stuff to compete with. Same vein, I'm gonna go Need for Speed Underground. Wow. So you're gonna go Need for Speed and Mario Kart? Okay, what do you hear, Ty? I guess James Bond 007 would not be considered a sports national sport. No, that's a great pick. You could argue it's a competition game. You talking about GoldenEye? Yeah, GoldenEye. Yeah. Classic N64 again. Yeah, it's a man who's held the GoldenEye before. Oh, Star Fox, can I go Star Fox? Ty, pick a sport. No, it's not a sports game. I'm just reminiscing. All right, same. Give me, I feel like I can't go double baseball here. How are you not gonna put like college football or something? I know, but you gotta pick a year with that too. And then it's like. Just for context, our main competition in terms of video game sales through the years was Madden. Okay, so should we stay away from that or is that a? No, I don't care, I'm just telling you. That's my only point of reference. I'm gonna go MLB the show. The good call. I'm gonna go MLB the show. It is a good call. Two baseball games. I'm gonna stay in the same genre and go NBA Jam. Oh, really? Yeah, I mean, that's still, if you can find one, it's still being played endlessly. Yeah. All right, Tony, you got two picks now to end it for you. NBA 2K, that's NBA 2K. Let's see, NBA 2K and. Well, I got to throw Madden in there just to pay respects. That's a good draft right there. Heavy hitting list right there. I guess for my last one will be. I'm gonna have to go PGA Tour. I think it was, it was 06 was my favorite. PGA Tour 06, yeah. I think that was Tiger. I think that was the Tiger. Is that the Tiger vision? Yeah, that's where I was gonna go. No regard for human life. I'm so old that I played PGA Tour on the Commodore Amiga. There you go. Wow, that's incredible. That's seven ballastellas. I really wanted to go in the golf realm here. Can I go Golden Tee? Yeah, I'll go Golden Tee. I'll go Golden Tee. Yeah, it's all the national championships this weekend. We're online, they're still hitting it hard. And I will wrap up the draft with, it's back, college football, college football is back, the playoffs there, the transfer portal. Yeah, that's it right there. Boys, I think we did really well here. Yeah, for no game bank. Yeah, no game bank. The recap would be Sparky took Mario Kart, Need for Speed Underground and NCAA football, T-Tone took Backyard Baseball, MLB the show in Golden Tee, Gare, NFL Blitz, NBA Jam, PGA Tour 06, and Tony went with his own Tony Hawk's Underground, NBA 2K and Madden. Man, I've gotta probably take Tony's list over all of ours, but Gare with little juicy list himself. Well done, boys. Yeah. That's fire. Now I'm sure we left something out there. Comment below what we left out there. What consoles Tony Hawk's Underground? Is it Regional PlayStation? What was the, no, we're into, I think we're into PS3s by then. Okay. So you get, it's still readily available that you can play it, I'm guessing. Yeah, that was 2004. Sorry, I'm not the best historian with consoles. You have like an underhand. But also in full disclosure, I had them all through all the years and I would even get advanced versions of them so that I could test games. And so I don't have a really good timeline. Do you have unopened versions of every game, like on a wall or anything? I think so, yeah. Yeah, some where he does. I do, I actually have, it's funny you asked that because I don't have it here. I just went through a bunch of like archive stuff and I found a beta version of Tony Hawk's Proving Ground that just has the, like it was a burn DVD. Wow. That's like an archeologist. That's incredible. If anyone has modified 360 from that year, we can play it. Yeah, it's a great time. If I go buy a skateboard today, like right after this, what am I gonna tell them? What do I need? Like, is there any like special lingo I need to tell them? No, I would say get something a little wider, just if you're starting out. So something like 8.5 maybe, 8 1⁄2 inches. And my best suggestion is to tighten your trucks when you start out skating because if you, if you put your trucks on out of the factory settings, they're gonna be super wobbly and then you might be discouraged from skating because you're gonna get wheelbiders gonna turn too sharply. That's my best advice. But hey, if you want, get a birdhouse deck. There you go. There you go. All right, I'm going birdhouse deck and that, where do you, can you buy those at like any skate shop, I'm guessing? Hopefully. Or just go online. I can't speak for all of them. Hopefully most of them. Or go to our website, birdhouseskateboards.com. All right, go to the left. Cool, I'm gonna go buy a skateboard. My recommendation would be to get indies and bones and bones bearings, even though that's all more higher and stuff is gonna last. There you go. And a couple ice packs. Yeah. I don't think you're gonna get that great so on. That's just fine. Hold on, there you go. That's all that you need. We greatly appreciate the time, even though you may not mean to be a great follow on the social content side, you're a great follow. One of my favorite pieces ever was all the people who didn't believe it was you or didn't recognize you. It still happens every day. Just, I was dying laughing the first time I saw that. I mean, just yesterday, just yesterday, I had to show my ID to pick something up. And my Leo name is Anthony, I've never gone by Anthony. But, and the guy looked at the ID and he's like, oh man, I thought you were Tony Hawk when you walked up. And he said, Anthony is so close. And I got a little, I said, Tony is short for Anthony. And he's like, ah, so close. And he had me back in my ID. That's incredible. Oh, we gotta get you back out there in the marketing game. I don't know, I kinda like it though too, that you go under the radar a little bit. That's so good, man. I mean, I just, more people don't expect me to be older than they were playing as me on the PlayStation. You know, I was sort of cemented in time there. So it's okay, it's fun. Yeah, I love it, man. Well, thank you for the time, Tony. It was a blast. Yeah, thanks guys. Honor and privilege. See you buddy. Yeah. Okay, see ya. Almost, hey, almost, dad, please. Almost. Have you ever thought about going to therapy and talk to yourself out of it? Yes. Maybe you thought it was too expensive or you couldn't figure out whether your insurance would pay for it. Or maybe you just didn't think you had enough time. If this sounds familiar, then Rula can help. I thought you were asking me directly there, Sparky, but with Rula, you can find a qualified therapist in five minutes and have your next session as soon as tomorrow. That's faster than I can get a regular doctor appointment or a tea time. Rula makes it easy to get quality care with therapists who take insurance and have openings. 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Try for yourself the shades rated five stars by over 300,000 people. Almost, hey, almost, dad, please. Almost. Our guests are currently on a 100-year tour with a never-ending schedule. And they're joining us as one of the featured squads that we'll be competing against on the squad game tour this summer. Together, they hold multiple Guinness World Records. They are members of the world-famous Harlem Globetrotters. Give it up for Sheryl Torch George and Moussha Tutei Winsley. Appreciate you all, man. Thanks for having us, man. Thank you for having us. Well, yeah, thanks for coming out. We did just go through a little competition. I won't tell the viewers how that ended. They can watch it online themselves. They already know, Gar. They already know. And in case you guys have been living under a rock and don't know who the Harlem Globetrotters are, we're going to play a little video to see what they do. Cool, also. This is Torch. Hi, Torch. I see you. Oh, casual. I was there for that last town. I was there for that one. Torch code. That one's pretty cool. Different kind of tricks. This is actual game footage. Actual game footage right here. Oh, that one was the slide. It's a throwback in the front, too. Oh, do them dirty. Yeah, it's not a travel, because she slides without the ball. That's true. It's important. That's true. You know, I was going to say travel, but no, it's not. It is crazy. There's more traveling in the NBA than in Globetrotters. That's true. I would agree. I got to ask, just right about how long have you guys been a member of the Harlem Globetrotters? So I've been with the team now going on nine years. Nine years? Same, nine years. No way. Year, so 2016, 2017? 2017, yeah. OK. We filmed with the Globetrotters back in 2014? Early. Early. Yeah, Biggie. And then Sparky just got back from the All-Star game and played with Chris Daples and Bree Green. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also part of the squad. So that was pretty fun. So what made you all interested in joining the Harlem Globetrotters? I mean, I feel like all our stories are different. You know, I had took a break from basketball to deal with some health issues. So I felt like if I can't play the game, then be inspired and get back in a different way. So I started coaching, ran into a former Harlem Globetrotter referee who had been watching me just dribble and play with the ball in between games. And he was like, man, I think you'd be a great female Globetrotter. And I was like, I don't know how to do any tricks. You'll learn the tricks, but you're a great basketball player. I can see that. So literally gave him my YouTube link and sent it to the scout. Nine years later, 50 countries, six Guinness World Records later. Plus, God. Yeah, 50 countries. Myself, I played in college, played a little bit professionally. And then I did a movie in 2016, 2017 with Kyrie Irvin. Uncle Drew. So I was a point guard. I thought I lost. I'm sick. To him. So I got a chance one day to play pickup with Kyrie. And I could shoot the ball really well. Yeah. So, man, definitely the best ball handling in the NBA. So all I do is catch and shoot. So myself now, eight Guinness World Records, 48 different states, 25 different countries. And I've been alongside my teammate right here. And it's been a blast. No way. So OK, what is the tryout like for the Globetrotters? It's like any basketball trial. All our trials were different. I know for me, it was only like eight guys there. Eight guys there. So come in, you show ball handling. You show shooting. You play one on one. You play three on three. If there's enough guys and women in there, we play five on five. So you've got to have that basketball background. Of course. And then any personality tricks that you have, you have that opportunity to show it to as well. So for me, I sent in just a bunch of videos just handling basketball. And it was like, listen, we want you to do everything on command. So I can dribble up to three balls at one time. So they was like, we want to see you do that on command. So when we were doing our video earlier, you mentioned the words training camp. Right. That got my attention. We've never done training camp. And maybe I think we probably should. Yeah, I think maybe you know, you guys have training camp. Yes. Yes, definitely. And it's very important because like I said, when I made the team, I didn't know how to do any tricks. So training camp is learning how to hop, spin the ball in your finger, transfer it into a kid's finger. There's a lot that goes into training camp to prepare you to be a globe charter because it's more than just playing. Now you're an entertainer too. So you got to find your personality. And so that week allows the new players, especially to get comfortable and find yourself and learn how to hop and learn how to really be a globe charter. Absolutely. What was the hardest balance figuring out how to turn on the personality switch while you were seriously hooping or the reverse of it? Like trying to do all the tricks live, which the harder to figure out. I think it's the first you said, because for me, I'm such a serious hoop when I play. So definitely it's being able to turn on that entertainer switch. But then when it's time to play for real, have that competitive spirit to as well, because fans want to see both. 100 percent. Can you entertain? Also, can you be competitive to as well? Yeah. I mean, I remember as a kid going and that was a love basketball. So it's my absolute favorite thing to do. And when I showed up at the games, I remember thinking, even as a young kid, I was like, oh, they're just going to be messing around the whole time. And then when y'all get serious and you're going hard as a kid, I remember thinking that was the coolest thing because y'all kept flipping back and forth between these just splashing half court shots like it's nothing like we just saw out there and then just absolutely going hard at the generals. It was cool. Like I thought it was unbelievable to see you basically manage both of those sides of the game, the personality side and the hoop side. Yeah, I would totally agree as somebody played Division One basketball, super competitive, that switch. Because, you know, as a competitor, you know, you miss a shot. You're going to show it on your face, right? But the kids are watching you. So I think that's the hardest challenge as a globe. Try to turn it on and turn it off. Like I almost didn't sign the contract because they were like, you don't smile enough. Like you're good, but you don't smile enough. You have to smile like do it all. So as years go on, you get better with that. Like at the end of the day, those kids are just going to remember how you made them feel. That you acknowledge them, that you smile at them, not that you missed a shot. Right. So for us, it's all about going out there and have a good time. And I think the biggest thing to help me was a couple of years ago. I think I had an amazing game. I had my trick shot pregame at like five, six, four, I said a couple of threes in the game and the kid came up and was like, man, you really play awesome today. I was like, really? Tell me the best thing you like. Your dance moves, man. They were awesome. I was like, OK, you didn't see none of the shots. I mean, conscious out there. Yeah. Well, so we we also go on a tour and you guys are going to be at a couple stops this year, which will be competing against you guys. I don't know whose idea that was. Yeah. We we do some like battle, you know, we do competitions live. And there have been many times where like you lose like a, you know, you lose like a heartbreak and you're just like, you're so angry. You're just like, yeah, you're in there. I'm like, I want to win. But then you're like, there's 10,000 people watching me. So maybe I should like act like, you know, smile. And I don't care. It is funny because we got all our chatter going on backstage, right? Because just like, you're on tour for a long time. Right. We're not on tour as long as you guys don't get it twisted. You guys are on another level, but we'll have like, there was a streak where Cody had lost a lot of tour shows in a row, right? And I'm sure it's happened to me too, but I remember a specific time and we're all talking about it backstage. And so when you're out there live and like he's got a shot and he's in the finale and all goes down, like you said, you're so into the moment. And then when you lose, you're like, hot. But you got all these kids sit around and you got to just put on a smile and remember that it's all good. Yeah, for sure. I feel like the hardest moments for me and my globe, try to career where like my first year in my second year, because you miss a shot or you shoot an airball, you're in your head. Totally. I don't sleep at night. Like, like how did I, you know, I've hit a game Winter in Madison Square Garden. I shot an airball TD garden. So one thing I've learned is just like, never too high, never too low. And at the end of the day, we got 100 something games. You're not going to play your best every day. Like Tutor said, he may hit 10, 4s in a row and in the next game, not hit any. But you still know who you are. You know, you still know you're more than just that shot. For sure. You're entertainer, you're, you know, you're a role model. Kids look up to you. So we we learned that early on, like, don't get too high, don't get too low, don't get hard on yourself, like, because that can happen. I can only imagine him losing. Oh, for sure. You know, you begin to think like, man, am I this good? And you just can't do that. Yeah. I'm going to have to remember that when we play you guys on tour. I'll think back to this interview. I'll be like, all right. All right. So tell me this, we have our own ways of kind of chilling out before our shows when we go on tour for us, we play golf and we try to line up as many cool courses as we can play. And that's kind of our thing in the morning. Kobe and I will go get one of those little limes scooters and kind of rip it around the city and kind of get a feel for it. And those are kind of the things that we do before our nighttime show. Right. What do you all do? You all travel all the time. What's kind of y'all's go to things to help you chill before the games? You said one of the things right there was get on the line scooters. I know we're going to be ready to go to Europe. So for me, I like to get lost a lot of time, especially now with technology. Easy to find your way back to the hotel. So for me, I just get on the school and get lost. Just try to see the different places in the city, try different foods. Get into she didn't got me in the coffee. So just trying to copy so different places. Man, so that's I'm a big history guy. So going to the Coliseum in Rome, seeing the founding Rome, seeing the president of the house in Germany. So I just like to just see different parts of the city because as a kid, I should just touch the globe and be like, I'm going to play here one day. And now to be able to do it is just awesome. So how many people travel with you guys like when you go on tour? Like how big is the squad? So Globetrotters, we have 10 generals. They have around like nine, 10 players at time. But there are 20 people. Yes, so around there. And and how long when you guys when the tour season starts, how many how many stops? Over 100 for sure. You're going to 100 nights. Yeah, because we start Christmas, we leave our family Christmas day and we won't be back home until the end of May. Zero, zero back in one day. Two games in one day, at least four to five games a week. So we have a double game. We play at two o'clock. Then we they gave me in around like four. And you got the break in between there. Then doors open again at five for Magic Pass. And then we got to do it right over again at seven. And then sometimes right after that, it's a play out. So we have two games playing one city and then have to leave that night to head to the next city and go bus it. There was a time on the bus. Oh, yeah, for sure. I still haven't been able to figure out how to sleep on a bus. It's awful. I can't do it. You've tried everything. Yeah, I've tried literally everything. And it's just like, no. And then I wake up and I get too stressed out because my whoop says I'm moving the whole night. I didn't sleep one minute and I'm like, dude, I'm going to die. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Internationally, we have the sleeper beds. So we'll go up on top of the bus and we'll sleep. But it's still I mean, for me, nine years now, I used to get up early, early on in my career site. See now it's all about rest. So you ask me what I'm doing, I'm resting. But the younger players, they get out as they should. But as you get older and you've been in it, you understand the importance of sleep. So when it's your third time in Rome, favorite stop y'all have ever been on? Oh, I love London, I love the UK. Australia is beautiful, too, but I love the culture in London, the food, the fashion. You know, I lose sleep in London. So for me, Spain and Portugal, I was my two favorite. Yeah, mine's Atlanta and. There's so many good spots in the SEC. Yeah, we haven't been overseas yet on the on tour. We tried to during COVID and got all jacked up. But that's a lot of fun. So you guys are familiar with some of our battles. You guys looking forward to like competing against us. Absolutely. Definitely, man. I watch y'all on YouTube all the time. I was telling you guys, especially when we was doing different tricks, just amazing things y'all can do, whether it's basketball, golf, frisbee. Just how creative y'all are with y'all come to these different shots. I know if it was me, I would take a lot more time, probably, because basketball is my thing. But definitely, if I was on the golf course, I'm digging holes. All the time. Yeah. Well, we don't have to do it live. Yeah. That's the trick in our world. That's wild. All right, I got to get y'all's take on this event of bananas. OK. All right, I got to know. All right, they're kind of scooping in, in my opinion, kind of kind of doing a baseball version of the club. Obviously, all credit to them, where y'all's thoughts on watching kind of their rise and and everything going on in the banana world. No, I love it. I'm trying to get tickets. Yeah, I know. I didn't get a ticket and I live in Atlanta. I love what they're doing. I mean, again, another organization that's inspiring kids who you know, want to be entertained and they love baseball. So I'm all for it. I love it, actually. I think it's smart baseball, in my opinion, unwatchable. I'm the guy from the dudes that. So I'm very pro speed up the game. And if you got to do a backflip to get somebody to watch the game, I'm there for it. Listen, well, yeah, I mean, I'm just being honest. So we're it's just crazy to think that y'all started in 1926 and still just, you know, going on tours for six months out of the year, which is just truly crazy. Crazy to think about. So, you know, we'll see how banana ball is. I mean, I'll be dead, but, you know, in a hundred years from now. Yeah, they got a long way to go. They got a long way to go. But it has to be kind of, you know, and, you know, flattering that, you know, people are looking at the globetrotters and trying to take their spin on it. Yeah, they're being innovative with it. They've been definitely involved. I definitely want to get tickets. One of the guys I know, Jackson Olson. Yes, we know him as well. So I tour schedule goals so different. So I'm like, but any chance I get off, I want to try to make it to again because I only get to see the stuff that he puts out on social media. So let's talk about world records. OK, what's the favorite one? Like, what's your one you're most proud of? Probably my first one. It's hard between the first one and the last one, because the last one, I'm the only one that has a non basketball Guinness World Record. That's a Harlem Globetrotter. So that's kind of historic. But the first one was historic, too, because I was the first female Globetrotter to set a Guinness World Record. And it was a move that I learned as a young girl that I had been doing since Ann won. They, you know, that spin move that you guys see earlier. Yeah, that one right there. Yeah. So that one was pretty cool. You know, like when I joined the team, it was like, you know, looking through the history books and like, man, all these guys got Guinness World Records and the ladies and ladies had got attempts. Let me not say that the ladies didn't get the opportunity. I guess it was just meant for me to get that. And like it's been cool. So I got six of them. So that first one and the last one. OK, what was the non basketball one? So the last one I did was in the UK and London. OK. And it was I had to get a Swarovaker book on my head and the most stand up sit downs in a minute. What? And I got like with balancing the book on the head, balancing book on the head, which is kind of crazy because I always got the torch button. And I couldn't put the bun up, right? Sure. There's no way, you know, so I had to put my hair down and it was a whole thing. But that was pretty cool. You know, that was pretty cool. Yeah, I had another one, but somebody broke that one. The fastest time to put a ping pong ball in a cup like 2.6 seconds, but somebody broke that one. I have the Guinness World Record of hanging clothes on a clothespin. Yeah, you have to put. Yeah, I'm pretty proud of it. We got some fancy stuff, type broke a bunch of pencils. Yeah, same level. Yeah, same level. What about you? Myself, Guinness World Record I created and out of my dad I was my dad two years ago, but it's the most two ball bounces with one hand. So I got to dribble two basketball simultaneously. And I got three hundred and ten dribbles in a minute. And the other one is which I didn't think it was that difficult at the time is the most layups in three minutes. So I got 66 layups in three minutes. Oh, just back and forth. Yeah, no, so you got to retreat back to the free throw line. So so hard to get back to the free throw line. So I got to go back and get my other one because T. Jess, he broke the one in the middle. So I got I got to come back and get that one. I got to get that one. You mentioned and one. Yeah, what were I mean? I grew up watching and one who was like the your favorite hot sauce. Hot sauce. I mean, it was hot sauce. And then, you know, Professor, yeah, I often say. Oh, I was like, hot sauce. I got to rewind that back. That's when I had to like, yeah, rewind. We were he's just so shifty and by rewind, she means back in the day. We had these things called VHS. Yes. Yeah, click a button. Like we kind of wait a little bit. Kids these days. Yeah, they don't like that. Yeah, yeah. Hot sauce was definitely one documentary on Netflix. Oh, yeah. Incredible. Who were some of your role models? Like did you want like WNBA NBA players that that you watch growing up? So for me right now is Steph Curry. Just the way he I took his out of time. The thing that's intrigued me so much about him is just how he moves without the ball. I know he can shoot it extremely well, but I know a lot of kids that I work with if train is is his stamina alone, he can run for and then being at his age, it's still in his 30s to still be able to play 29 30 minutes a game and still have the energy and the strength to get the ball up from 32 33 feet away to knock down shots. It's amazing. And then lastly, one of my favorite players that just retired is Chris Paul. Yeah, definitely. So those are the guys that I try to mirror my game after. And I just think I think they play the game the right way. Yeah, that's cool. Jevony for me, Alan Iverson. Growing up, short point guard, just played with so much heart and he always remained himself, no matter the success he stayed true to who he was. And obviously the greatest of all time, Michael Jordan, we all know that. Right. Seeing Mike, his competitive nature, just a dog. And I just I love that. I'm super competitive. I might be I mean, two times. I might be the most competitive globe charter there is. You guys have no idea. So don't get on that ping pong table. One pickle ball. I was trying to be a friendly game. Yeah, I mean, Steph does the little night night. But the original was the Alan Iverson step over, you know, when he stepped over, they got to have just absolutely you get in trouble for that now. But that's the best. Yeah, that was I love the original night night right there for sure. You guys want to do a competition? Absolutely. What's your go? We don't have to. I was thinking I'll not because I can't even do it. But ball spinning. OK. So you guys are both ball spinning experts. OK. So but. This guy I'm physically capable of sleep on him. Don't don't say expert. All right. So I just have a little spin off. All right. OK. He can't do any of like, you know, OK, so this is very, you know, he's very static. I got OK. You know, it's still maybe we could teach him something. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, maybe you give him some pointers. OK. What's the longest you've ever done? I'm sure you all can do it essentially forever. The longest I've ever spent the best ball. I want to say it was twenty three seconds. I think twenty three. Is there like a what's the Guinness World Record for that? There's got to be. It's got I bet it's crazy. That up, Graham. What's the Guinness World Record for spinning the basketball on a finger? Like I said, not happening. Right. No, that's not happening. Yeah, I was going to say, you don't get to do forever. One spin. Twenty three seconds. Yeah, I'm going to say. There's like getting going. Four hours, 50 minutes spinning. Yeah, for sure. Oh, he kept it going. Could you could you do that? Unless my own twenty two. Wow. Oh, eleven minutes. Oh, twenty two seconds. Dude, eleven minutes, twenty two seconds. Oh, is that good? That's continuous. One spin. There's no way. That's because it's because he was basketball spin, though, using only one hand to maintain the spin. Yeah, he's tapping it. So he's the. So he's got to be doing. Yeah, she's doing this. Now I could I could do but I can't keep it going for eleven minutes, though. You don't know. That's that's a long time. That will hurt. That's easy. I think you got it. I think you got it. I'm telling you. You're that might be up there. The twenty you said twenty three seconds. So so so the biggest thing I would tell people is have you want to get you a good spin, get you a good spin. Then last is the nail. So I know a lot of people spend a body like I can't spend. Yeah, I'm already out. You got to go nail. Don't. Hey, don't show me. We're going to try to. They don't need tips for me. So I'll give it one like spend. We'll see how long you can stand up to you. You know, let's sit down. You don't have to see one. And we're back in the Miller's yard. Despite the heat, their true green lawn is thriving. They got a lawn like a golf course here in Maryland without wasting a weekend. And PJ to a golf has started showing up like this, bro. Amaze this grass looks this good in this heat has to clear the patio furniture and the sandbox. Oh, perfectly struck. True Green, the easiest way to get a golf course quality lawn. Don't wait. Click the screen now to sign up at true green dot com. Exclusion supply. See true green dot com for details. Yeah, one good one. This man. Oh, let's see. I get one good spin. We want to hit no lights up there. Oh, we're good. What? OK, dude, she has a really good spin going right now. She's locked. OK, we should let's all start at the same time. Yeah. Oh, we can wait for us. We can wait. It's cool. It's cool. All right, we're going to do a big toss. All right. So here's here's the game. Let me set it up for the viewers and the listeners. One spin, Corey, so you can't you can't keep spinning the ball. And we're going to see who can last the longest. I I think I know the winner here, but I'm not going to say anything. You gotta stop. Watch out. Watch out. I was going to say, let's get a timer. Let's see how long it is. It's once the ball hits the finger. Once the ball hits the finger. Absolutely. If I magically win, do I immediately become a globetrotter? Get a 10 day. 10 day. Let's go. 10 day. That's not bad. Honorary. Yeah, honor. That's fine. It's fine. Hey, you guys, we can't be real unless I go to training camp. Yeah, I get it. All right, I'll count you guys down. You ready, coach? Here we go. In three, two, one, go for it. Oh, no. Of course. Oh, what? That was out of there. Good job. Good job, Corey. Good job. Good job. Try again. I'll try again. OK, we'll go until I get it. And that's the end. All right, here we go. You guys ready? Yeah. Corey, the real question is, are you ready? Not really. OK, I didn't think so. Here we go. Three, two, one. Yeah, nice score. That's going to last about four seconds. Go. Those balls are wet. No way, dude. All right, Corey got eight. We're 10 seconds in. Corey got eight. Why do they lose momentum so quick? Let's see if they can beat my double. Probably. No way, dude. Nice penalty. Nice. No, no, no. That's unreal. That's unreal. I'm right there last time. I will say the fog is, it's a fog warning today, so I think the air is a little dense here. All right, I'm going to question one more. This is Corey gets to keep trying and spinning while theirs is a single spin. I think he can do it. I'm not going to do that. Are you ready? Get set, go. I got that. Oh, that was a good one. I don't think I get any credit for that. Come on, Corey. What I am, though, is I'm a one-trick pony, so after... I would do much talking and more towards you. Yeah, dude. You got to teach me a trick. You spin and do it. Oh, no. Oh, that's touching. Oh, that's cool. I didn't do that. A single hand one is not... Hey, Corey, do a single hand one. That's not... Okay. Oh, he recovered. I'm looking for a save. Oh, there you go. Okay. All right, you got to teach me one trick. I got nothing. One trick. The only thing I've ever done is that I've done that. Once in a while. Oh, golly, dude. What's the... I teach you one of my ball hand ones. So, definitely. Kids love this one is when I go in a circle this way. Right here. One, two, like this. So, it's really push, push, push, just one dribble. So, at the same time, when this ball is coming up, you throw it over. Gently a little bit. Throw it over. Throw it over. Got that. Yeah. That's true. Right? There we go. He definitely doesn't have this. One of us. Yeah. Good. Yeah. There you go. There you go. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. That's part of me, man. It is. Too tall and not going to be scooting all over the door. Come on, man. We're just going to be ripping the lines. I'm ready. All right. So, how they can come and watch, how can they come and watch you guys? Is it just go to HarlemGlobePurage.com? Absolutely. Absolutely. Right now, on our 100th year tour, you want to check us out, go to HarlemGlobeCharters.com. You can get programs, t-shirts, headbands, wristbands, all Globe Charters get there, but also check us out on our socials right there at the website as well. Come on out, check us out. We'll be able to sit near you. Awesome, guys. Well, it was an honor to have you guys in studio. Best of luck. And, you know, I would start training, you know, the Dude Perfect Squad games. I was heated out there. I'm not, we're not playing horse, okay? Okay. We're doing like things that you guys have never even done before, just so we can have a chance. So, you think we've never done it? Yeah, we'll say no. We got a lot of tape on your basketball. We don't know about their football skills. Apparently, we got some ping pong in there. Hey, let's do it. All right. Well, thank you to Torch and Tutol. Catch us with the Globe Charters on tour this summer. You can get tickets at DudePerfect.com slash tour. See you guys then. Safe travels on y'all's tour. Thanks for being here. Well done. Thank you to the Globe Charters and Tony Hawk as an Action Packed episode. We're not worthy, but they were great. Looks like our show is coming to a close. Wait, where's my whistle? Where's my whistle? There it is. There's the whistle. Our producer is slacking a little bit, you know. Yeah, it was almost no rant today. Which brings me a little bit to my rant. Was it the producer? No, just the fact that I feel like, you know, as a culture, we can use benefit from things, but let's not put all of our eggs in one basket and AI is getting out of hand. It is. People just, to do the minute task around the thing is just people are using AI. Let me pull up Claude real quick and I'm like, bro, I just need a simple answer. Nothing against AI, just use it. Responsibly. Responsibly. Just like anything. So we're reaching a phase here where a lot of people are coming a little overly AI dependent. Yeah, we've got a group downstairs in our office calling themselves the Claude dogs nowadays. And I'm like, hey, you got to have some personality with your AI. For instance, the guy just won the, we had a little master's fantasy league. And look, he put in, he put in all the things and said, Claude, tell me who I should draft. He ends up, he ends up winning it. And it's like, dude, look, I'm glad you got the victory there, but like, just pick your picks, dude. Like AI asterisk for sure. That doesn't, you don't need to use AI for that. That's my whole point. That's my whole point. And you just, there's things in life you do not need AI for picking a bracket just to win a fun competition. Bragging rights. It's ridiculous. Yeah, I would keep my lips sealed on that if I was to use AI to build me and my master's lineup. Is it like now amateurs basically that know nothing about sports can just go on to AI and have that have AI fill out. That brings me to the second part of the rant. Jared, funny you say that the lack of ball knowledge going around is tough. And I want everybody to be included into the sports conversation. I think that's great. But with that being said is I feel like I'm at home having to eat some really, really bad sports steaks that are just begging me to reply. And I don't. Well, look, I got to just go ahead and come. I got to come clean here. Okay. Because, you know, I get railed in the comments quite often. Sure. I would put my ball knowledge up there. Pretty much anybody in the comments legit. And he's saying anybody in the comments come at me. I have to say things like, oh yeah, dude, I think bow Nix and Denver Broncos could win seven games versus the Rockies. Because look, if I sit here and tell you what you already know, which is of course they can't. Is that interesting? Fair. You're stirring the pot. You're self admitting to stirring the pot. I have to stir the pot, dude. Like we can't have two guys that just agree on everything. Like what? That's not fun. That was one of the problems they forecasted in your Gary X-Menu or so like-minded. But anyways, I agree. Don't use AI for ball. Just watch sport and enjoy it. And just have fun with it. Don't use AI. We're dangerously close to like asking AI to wipe us and stuff. And that's just gone too far. Well that probably should happen for at least my kids. I worry about that. Not for me too. You know. I'm not the best wiper of all time. So, you know, we'll get on this next show. Is a bidet a robot? We'll hit that next week. We'll hit that next week. Looks like our time's up. 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