Why Social Media Feels So Evil Today... | Nick Cannon | DSH #1871

It's very easy to get in front of these cameras and turn a mic on and say some shit people don't like. Because even the idea of what IQ doesn't even matter anymore. Now the way that we measure IQ, it becomes intuition. I want to be the best version of myself each and every day. Okay guys, out here in LA, here with Nick Cannon. Fellow podcaster does a lot of business, writes children's books as well. Just found out. It's funny right here. I've dabbled in every aspect, well not every aspect of entertainment. A lot of entertainment in the last 30 years. That's a lot man. So you just like the business side of things that sounds like? I mean it's just, I kind of man, like my gift is to wake up and be creative. You know what I mean? As an artist it's like, I'm always with it and for whatever reason. I've been business savvy to be able to survive for a few decades. That's a rare combo right? Because there's a lot of creative people, but rarely do you see that. They have that business acumen as well. You know what I mean? I think that's what I'm going to conduit to man. Because I understand the artist's mind and how we think and move and the passion. But I also understand how to stay on time and own budget. Be able to help artists translate that to the spaces like this. For sure. Did you have someone helping you on the business side of things at first? Yeah, I mean I had a lot of mentors, but I also think I just paid attention. Birth by a lot of hustlers. So I was like, before you get a chance to get on the block, they make you sit on the porch and watch. And I had a lot of time to observe because I was in the game so early. So I watched how others move. So I was like, ooh, when I get mine, I'm going to start my business this way. I'm going to set up my office like this. So I just do observation. That makes sense. What was the first hit for you? Did you have a lot of misses out first? Yeah, I mean that's so weird. Like, I don't know. Spits so long. But it's also too because it's such a gradual journey that you appreciate. Like nothing really hit in my life change. It was just like, oh, step by step, brick by brick. Interesting. And then you look up and you're like, I made a hundred million dollars. You don't really, I think if it probably would have happened for me that way, a lot of times when you see somebody start here, then all of a sudden they're a superstar. I probably would have been able to handle that at a young age, but it was super gradual for me. That's a good point. The you've been in the game for so long. There's not a lot of people that can say that. They have these meteoric rises. You see it all the time, podcasts and entertainment. And then next year they're gone. Yeah. And I mean, shots out to those people who can, you know, overnight or whatever happens that they go from obscurity to the biggest star in the world, rather just be close to be steady. Like I stay out the way. I don't bother nobody. I do my stuff and then go home and play with my kids. Yeah, you got a lot of kids. Any more on the way? Not that I know of. It might be. I don't think so though. Yeah. Man, well done. You and Elon are racing for that number one spot. I think he might have. See, he hides his kids. That's the difference. I'm proud of all of my. Yeah. Like he'll pop them like, this is number 18. And his name, XWL. He makes them sign NDAs. Right. Yeah. I know a couple. He's DM'd. Really? Yeah. I know how the holding works actually. That's crazy. Yeah. So he'll DM the girl. I've had a few on the show and be like, do you want to have kids? Just that's the first opening line. Yeah. I mean, if you're a girl, it's a pretty tempting offer because you're set for life. You know what I mean? I mean, you are, but like that would throw me so much because then you have to start questioning your own moral compass. Yeah. Like the richest man in the world going, hey, you want to have some kids? You're like, no, really? But like. Yeah. Like I do. Like. You're basically putting finances above family. Above everything. Yeah. Above just, but it is, I mean, and he just, that's how he just opens it. Yeah. Literally first or second message. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I like your DNA. Yeah. But this girl I spoke with, she actually turned it down. I think she regrets it now because she's kind of struggling financially. Wow. Yeah. And now there's a couple of girls suing him. Because of just the way he reached out to him. I guess, I don't know the exact details, but the money aspect wasn't enough or something. I don't know what the child support payments are looking like. Because that's even like, if you think about it, like, I mean, maybe it's definitely different. But even when you get into the spaces of like serigacy, like there's people who make a business out of having children. Right. You know, and they don't even, they don't keep it. You know what I mean? How much would that cost if you want to do that? I've heard that serigacy is, I mean, I think it's somewhere like, you know, roughly around like 50, 60,000 dollars. For your work, that makes sense. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, but, and again, I know I've never looked into it that deeply, but I've actually met a few of those type of people who, yeah, who've had children for others. And I think that's, that's what they get paid. 50,000. Like, even if you say 75k for nine months. That's a lot of work. I don't know if it's worth it. 100 grand. I think the emotional attachment would be crazy. Like to be able to be like, damn, I just literally created life inside of me for nine months. I mean, I just got to give it away and I can't. Yeah. I don't know about that. Because they say you form a bond with a kid while you're pregnant. And then there's, I mean, I don't even know what this is called. I'd have to do a research if somebody could, because there's a difference between like, serigacy that holds, you know, someone else's egg and sperm. And so you don't really have an attachment, but then there's a kind where it's like, it could be that person's, you know, egg as well. So I think that's, that's something beyond serigacy. Yeah. Now there's gene editing. Yeah. Yeah. Or even like, if it's like, how much is my actual egg worth? Because, you know, there's also complications where women can't even produce eggs or don't have any left. And that's, that's almost like, that's a step closer to adoption, which you can't sell, you know, in that space. Yeah. I've heard of that woman selling their eggs though. Yeah. Yeah. That's not, dude. Yeah. Crazy times, crazy future, man, because there's gene editing. That's, you can choose your kids. You can choose the eye color, the height. High athleticism IQ. What do you think of that? I mean, that's, we're definitely in the future. I don't know if I do. Science fiction movies is about, I think it should just come out as it is personally. Yeah. I mean, but if you can have the opportunity to say, hey, I would like my, my child to be, you know, six foot three. And I, why not? It's tempting. It's tempting. Yeah. A post, or even if you get, you know, go medical, I don't want them to have this condition. That one I could see. For sure. You know what I mean? Like, and you have that opportunity early enough. Why wouldn't you? I could see that one. My dad unfortunately lost a kid on birth. So like, I could see a use case for that. Yeah. So, I mean, again, I don't judge people. I don't understand everybody's walk. It's not meant for me to understand anybody's walk. So I kind of accept it for what it is. I think when you start like, mismanaging, you know, science and playing God, there's definitely probably going to be some repercussions to that. But, you know, there's repercussions to everything. Yeah. Yeah. I love your, your approach. You know, you've had some wild people on your show, but you kind of just let them speak. I let them talk, man. Like, I'm really, I, like, I come from that space like, who the fuck am I to judge? Like, I just want to hear people's take. I'm curious. I think the greatest philosophers literally didn't sit around and act like they knew everything. The purpose of their debates was to learn. And it's like, all right, I want to hear your aspect on whatever it is we're discussing. But I, you know, as, as Socrates says, man, you know, the, the, the wise man knows that he knows nothing at all. So it's like, I just sit back and be like, shit, I didn't know that. Hold up. That's a rare mindset these days. I feel like we're in a society of constant judgment. Yeah, man. It's scary because everybody like everybody got a podcast, everybody pontificates and everybody, I think the algorithm has shown us the more that we could create this rage bait, this idea of like, I know more than you. I'm right. You're wrong. It, it, the views go up, but I mean, that, I mean, that's what makes guys like you special though. Like it's, you've reached a certain point in a certain level that you don't have to do that. And then even it's like, then there is a bigger calling on your, your life and purpose because now you have to really say, all right, well, I'm going to change the frequency. I'm going to elevate the frequency because everybody doesn't have the numbers that you have. Everybody doesn't have the audience that you have. But once you get there, what are you actually going to do it? Are you going to do it because now it's not even cool to do what everybody else is doing. Yeah. Like, it's like you said, AI can make people argue. You know what I mean? I'm like, you, you can, you can create a fake debate and podcasts and people are like really engaged. It was not even humans weren't even a part of that. Yep. You know what I mean? They're like, they, somebody typed in some stuff. You're like, how am I going to evoke an argument and get views? And so now when you get actual real human beings that can sit back and say, all right, man, let me elevate the conversation. There's, there's, I have a responsibility to make a shift because I have enough people watching me that I can shift the tide. And, and I think it's going to take, you know, the right amount of people, the right amount of individuals who are like, man, I'm tired of just yelling all the time. I'm tired of arguing. I'm tired. You can still have the same conversations. But if it's just like everything is about this group of people hates this group of people or this group of people where the original ones to do this to this group of people say, how many times can we have that conversation? Like, fuck. That's all I see. Like, I'm tired of it. It's like your algorithm, you just be wanting to throw your phone because it's like, I want to see or hear something different and unique. And it's like somebody like myself who'd been doing it for so long and a lot of it was really just for education purposes and fun. It's like, man, it's everybody's doing it now. So it's not even, it's not fun anymore. And then I was just a bunch of noise. It's not even like, I'm not learning anything. I'm just hearing a bunch of people repeat the same shit. 100%. The algorithm rewards controversy and conflict. Right. So it's a tricky, it's a tricky space. But it's even like, then you got to question why is that? You know what I mean? Like, is that a reflection on because that's what we like or is that what's being fed to us? Yeah, it's interesting, man. Because in my comments, in my DMs, I'll get hate here and there, but just out and about in the real world, that should never happen. So it's like, is this an artificial world that's been created? And it's like, are people really that angry? And I think, I think two things can be true. Like, yes, people are really that angry, but it's easy. I think it's easy to be at a low frequency. It's easy to scroll, it's easy to like. But to me, specifically as a comedian, it's much more fun to laugh than it is to be mad or grumpy or anything. But it's harder to make people laugh. I could piss you off very easily. I could call you a name, a slur, throw some shit at you. And it's going to piss you off. But to be like, yeah, I'm not going to make Sean happy. I'm going to make him laugh. I'm going to make him fucking roll over and that, like, that's a skill. So it's very easy to get in front of these cameras and turn a mic on and say some shit people don't like. Super easy. Yeah, like, how do you say some shit people do like? Yeah, you could do that in one word these days. Exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I can't do it. I can't. I'll get canceled. You guys know what word I'm talking about. There's a couple. Yeah, I think there's more than one. Yeah, there's a few that can get you turned off. But to say all of that, it's, man, why we should challenge ourselves, man. We should challenge ourselves to evolve, to elevate, and just do something different because this shit is boring at this point. And then it's just like, when are you going to hit that mic? We're like, man, we said all the evil shit. Like we've revealed all the conspiracies. Yeah. We have everybody knows who the devil is. Like, now what? Like motherfucker ain't new. Devil been around for a very long time. Like it's not like we're discovering shit that, you know, is new. There's been books and scrolls and all this stuff written for ages. But how are you going to live your life? Yeah, you've met your friend. In the midst of it. You've met your friend, you could see it a few times now. I love that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's like, and that's even the thing too. Like, I mean, I've been on that vibe for years, but like, and it's great to see people catch up. But now that it's become one of them buzzwords. Raise your frequency, bro. Yeah. It's like, but I mean, it truly is what you call it frequency, energy, you know, time to prana, all of the same, the chi, like all of that stuff is real. And it's like, whether you even consider it like an anointing over your life, you you understand when there's an individual who walks in a room who got a light. Yep. And people are just drawn to it. You could feel it. Yeah. Yeah. And that same thing with darkness too. You can feel it. Oh, yeah. That's my point. Your heart will draw dark instantly. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, you just it's how you manage your own energy. I think you having that in your back pocket has helped you a lot and navigate. Yeah, probably because I mean, especially then once you recognize and realize that you have it. And, you know, it's those things where you, whether you identify your sources, God, whether you energy, whatever you call it, once you recognize it and then humble yourself to it, then that becomes when you have real control in, you know, you're the you're, you're in control of your destiny and you have power over whatever happens. Yeah. Did you feel like you had that spiritual awareness like innately? Or did you feel like there was a specific? I grew up in church, man. So I knew there was always a God. I knew there was always a presence. I knew there was always a higher power that had like, like ordained my existence. You know what I mean? Like I maybe didn't understand it all and wasn't really a huge fan of religion and all that stuff. But I knew that there was something greater than me that I had to have reverence for. And the more that I had reverence, the better things were on life and outlook and knowing that I just had this appreciation for life. Wow. You know what I mean? Even that sense of like, and you know, because when I grew up, the shit was tough, but it wasn't like I had a very early age and like things aren't happening to me. You know what I mean? Like they're actually this is I'm learning from this. It's like so thing I'm growing from every challenge is like, so like this is for me to make me stronger. And I don't know if I got that from like dad or just but I had that innately. Like I just love life. That's interesting. Yeah, I did not have that growing up. I had a victim mentality growing up. Yeah, I never I never had that. And I never like I liked challenges and I still do to this day. Like I like when shit gets interesting. Hmm. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I was never a kid that picked up on stuff that was like. I yeah, it wasn't I've definitely been depressed. You know, went through my cycles and a lot of that stuff probably happened. Later in life because of events and grief and all of that type of stuff. But it was never the and that it was never woe is me. I never wanted anybody to feel sorry for me. I'm like, we got this. Like I love a challenge. Yeah. My therapist calls me a machete. Judges like they don't they like throw another one of the motherfuckers in. Watch this. They like anytime somebody says I can't do something like I want to prove that I can. Excited. Yeah, exactly. I feel like that's the entrepreneur mindset. Right. Yeah, yeah. And it totally is. I mean, that's the thing that drives you. Like that's that's where depression seeks in is when you're like no longer driven. Yeah. Where you're like, you don't have a challenge. Like you're like, fuck, no purpose. Right. I'm just sitting here. Like I need something to do. There were stats on depression and mental health crazy these these days. Like one out of four kids. We we all got it. It's chemical. You know what I mean? It's like when are what are you doing with them in dolphins that dopamine. And especially the shit that we're putting in our bodies now. You're going to throw your kid. You're going to have a chemical imbalance at some point. It's how do you manage it? It's it's removing and unplugging yourself from all of this shit and saying, let me go hit reset. Let me go refresh because we all have something that we could be depressed about. We all have something that will take us to a whole nother place and be like, yo, we got to bring him back. Right. Because what they're and then you add substances on top of that, whether you're attempting to self medicate or escape, like you're going to go down a rabbit hole. And if you don't know how to get back, it's that's where mental health or, you know, and all that stuff. It's challenge. Hide a quick cannabis, bro. Exactly. It was giving me panic attacks. And that's even in that sense, too, because you can get stuck in a mundane existence. Or to your point, it can make it could give you so much anxiety because it's tapping. It's just a chemical imbalance that we the brain is just, you know, one big giant ball of energy. And it's going to your neuroplasticity is going to get thrown off at some point. Yeah. Sometimes I'm near wrong. I was going to fire at a different pace. And it's because of the shit that we ingest, whether that's physically ingest or whether that's what we ingest as like content. Yeah. I had to change my whole diet up, man. Yeah. That's important. That's that's where it starts, man. They always say, like, you know, it's unfortunate, but each and every day, 75% of the shit we put in our body is plastic. If you think about that, like you only have 25% of actual nutrients and true fuel. But we put whether it's you don't even know that you're putting in plastic in your body, whether it's lotions, whether the things like all of these things are receptors and pores, man. Yup. The shit we sit on the shit we hold. And then, like I said, don't even like, I think it was 90% of the shit in the grocery stores. One wasn't there 100 years ago. And two isn't actual food. Wow. That's actually crazy. Like, when you think about this shit, because you're, it's all plastic. It's all made from some type of corn, sugar, starch, something that we shape into food. And if you think about what the body actually needs, you know, we only really need to eat once a day if it's actual real nutrients. Wow. So you only eat once a day? No. I'm a victim to all of this stuff as well. Like, I definitely, but there have been times where that was, you know, that was my practice. And even my regiment now is pretty close to that. But I also know because, you know, I have lupus and stuff. So my body tells me when I got too much bullshit in my body. Like it'll alert me immediately. And it's like, all right, I got to stop fucking with the process stuff. Or, you know, I got to up my alkalinity. I got to decrease the, like I just, I just know at this point. So to keep it, especially even knowing what if I got something coming up, or if I know it's going to be strenuous, I'm like, all right, I got to make sure my diet is right. Yeah, especially with your lifestyle, you're traveling a lot. That must be tough. Yeah, yeah. So all of that really comes from a place of just, you just got to know what you put in your body. Like there's, that's also too, because I've tried to be the perfect guy and eat once a day or, you know, the plant-based lifestyle, all of that stuff. And then that should have made you depressed. You fuck around, sit around like, man, I mean, all these fucking kale burgers and shit. Like you got to enjoy life. So there's, it's equanimity, man. You got to find a balance that works for you. And I just, I eat to live, you know, I use food as fuel, but I also want to be happy. So if I want to fucking Starbucks, I'm going to get a Starbucks. I want a burger, I'm going to eat a burger. But I also know, like, I ate that burger. I got to make sure I, you know, pay for it in the gym. Or I got to cleanse myself in this manner. I got to make sure, you know, I'm taking all my vitamins and supplements and, because you can get stuck in some shit and then you look around and, you know, you're in the hospital. Yeah. So happiness is important to you? Number one. Really? Freedom and happiness. Okay. Wow. I mean, and they go together when you, when you think about it, I mean, along with wealth, you know what I mean? When you think about to obtain freedom, you need wealth. And then once you have those, you can experience happiness in that sense of not just contentment, but joy and that's to where you can spread it. I think people think happiness is a soul thing where they're like, it's mine. I'm happy. But if you're truly happy, you walk in a room and you exude joy. Like it's contagious. But that takes a lifestyle that produces the other two, but you live your life free. And you, and when I say wealth, it's not even in a monetary sense. Yeah, that was my, it's like, it's a abundant sense. You know, you know, the Bible says, you know, you can have, give life and give it in an abundant manner. Like it has to be able to spread. So that's to me, that's how I see envision it all. And, you know, having had the money and all that stuff. It's like, if you, if you own your Scrooge McDuck shit, you're keeping it to yourself. You're not happy. 100%. Yeah, it's more than just money because you and I both know a lot of financial success. People that are so not happy. Didn't Elon just say that? Yeah. Whoever said that, you know, money can make you happy with spot orders. That's the richest man in the world saying that. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like, and we can see that motherfuckers not happy. He walk around looking like Scrooge McDuck. Yeah. So yeah. And you go to tribes in certain parts of the world and those guys are happier than people over here. Yeah. And they're even like, you see our president like that. Actually, he do seem kind of happy. That dude seems happy. Trump's in his own world. But that's, that's the freedom he lives by. But you can also see just like the Kramudgen, just like the up all night. Fucking posting and shit like they're like, where's your wife at? Like, oh fuck on your wife. It's like, is that type of stuff to like, how are you that obsessed with, you know, like you and your 80s dog? Like, enjoy this shit, right? This shit out. That's the last thing I want to do if I was in my 80s is be worried about the fuck Americans is doing. I wouldn't even be in America if my 80s. Like, I'd be like, so on the island somewhere, like enjoying papaya and mangoes and shit. Like, yeah, there's just so much to like enjoy in life. But some people get caught up in that narcissistic mindset and like wanting to own everything and wanting to make more money than the person. Like, I don't know. I don't know what type of energy that is. I think that's that micro penis energy or some shit. I don't understand it. I don't understand why people want everything and want to control it in its mind. Like, that shit is crazy to me. The more I look into it, the more they get stems from childhood trauma. Absolutely. I mean, but even then, like you see even on the playground where you're like, there's a where it's like, man, why is that little kid so angry? You know what I mean? What's happened to him to where he can't enjoy being a child as much as the other kids are? And then, you know, you find out there's a lot of stuff going on. Dude, I just, this is crazy, but like my 10 year high school reunion was a sure. And the kid that used to bully me like every day, I just found out he's a heroin addict. And it got me thinking like, he was probably getting who knows what was happening at his house. Right. And even for him to be able to see that, you know what I mean? And that's where you got to have empathy for people, man. You got to give people grace because we don't know what other people are going through. Yeah. And I mean, like you said, a world of fucked up plays, but I, you know, hopefully that we're going to experience dystopia before we get to utopia. You're that optimistic? I think you have kind of have to be. I mean, AI going to take over anyway. Yeah. So it's like, there's no stopping AI at this point. And they're going to get it right. You think so? Why wouldn't they? The only fucked up part about the AI experiences us. Like we're the ones, like one, they're taking off of how we've moved as a people, as humanity throughout the years. And you're praying and hoping that they focus on the good side of humanity, opposed to the bad side of humanity. And you know, it's our goals. But right now, all the fucking billionaires are in control of AI. So that don't go well because you got all these greedy people. But once you get to like AGI and all of that stuff, and they're making the decisions for us, I would hope that, you know, they're going to make the right decisions and let us exist. It's like humans. Like we don't be fucking with ants. We don't be like, we like the ants be the ants. Like they, let's stay coming out of space and we might get the raid out and shit like that. But if they were to add, we let the ants be the ants. Like we don't, we let the bees be the bees. Yeah. So I'm hoping AI kind of lets the humans be the humans. They set us up. We don't need a government no more. We don't need freaking, you know, attorneys and all of that shit. You know, medical will be free, food will be free. Education, we don't need that no more. Because even the idea of what IQ doesn't even matter anymore. Like if the AI in my pocket has a 400 IQ gives a fucking mind is 100 or 200. Like we're all, or even the AI in my pocket is, and I said 400, it's probably going to be like 10,000. It'll be way higher than 400. Yeah. So it's like, if you, if you, How leveled the playing fields for everyone though, if you got a 10,100 IQ or 10,160, who gives a shit is still 10,000. So the way now the way that we measure one's IQ, it becomes an intuition quotient. It becomes what are you going to do with it? What type of person are you? How much compassion do you have? And because we're not going to work anymore. So we're going to spend time with each other. We're going to spend time as human beings. I'm going to train my children to be good people, not to go and make the most money and be the savvy. It's like, yo, I mean, I think that is Dr. King said it best when it's all said and done. I ain't going to ask the kind of car you drive, how big your house was, go say, what did you do for others? 100%. That is an interesting future prediction. I find a lot of my purpose in my work, so I'm having trouble picturing it, but I could see it. But it's fine to have purpose in your work if your work is your passion. It is. If you're doing your work because of money to see how rich you can get, you want some bullshit. But if it's like- That can't be the main part. Yeah, but if you're doing it because you love it and you like interacting with people, you're having great conversations, inspiring, that's amazing. But if you're not doing it, you're like, and we've all been placed in situations, because that's truly that selling your soul shit. Yeah. Because if you do anything for money, if you got a price, you know what I mean? Like, you did- More people are going to offer it to you. And then you're going to- It's going to- And like, damn, I lost all my integrity based off of that. I'm sure there was a few meetings that you went to where that was the situation, right? And you had to walk away from it. It's not like the- Fucking- It's not like the movies. Yeah, it's not like- What's that? The devil at the crossroads is like, sign here. It's gradual. You know what I mean? They offer you, you know, substances. You get hooked on some shit you didn't want to get hooked on. Then they find out the things you love. And they bombard you with it. And then whatever it is, if you love- If they find your love language, if they know access service and gifts and all that, then they start giving you that shit. And if they know, ooh, if we feed his ego, if it's women, if it's whatever it is, you start getting an abundant amount of that, and then that becomes your drive. You know, like, where the bitches? You know what I mean? If you focus on that, your eye's off the prize. And that's in anything. Like I said, too much of anything is just not enough. Like, it's going to kill you. So, in that sense, man, we all got to be careful. And it's not just the successful people. It's everybody. Like, to me, the way I see it, man, if we get caught up in- And I see a lot of your content, and I appreciate it. But you have a lot of people on here talking about the conspiracies, you know, whether the small-minded concepts of like the Illuminati, which is Roman Catholicism, it doesn't go beyond that. Or even the, you know, whatever it is, who blame in a certain group of people of ruling the world and all that stuff. That stuff is silly, man. Like, I'm a true believer in spiritual warfare. We will never understand the depths of what it takes to control one's soul. So, I honestly believe if you're on this platform right now, if you're scrolling, you're sold your soul. Social media is the mark of the beast. Wow. If you want to go that deep, and we're all a part of it. Because it's all about the seven deadly sins, if you get to that point, right? And if you think about it, whether it's every, all seven of those are wrapped up in your feet. Whether it's pride, lust, wrath, shit that makes you mad, envy. We're sitting there looking at what somebody else got. Gluttony, we're taking too much of it. Mukbang videos. Yeah. Like, it even is to work with cancer. I look at the times on my fucking screen time. This year, I'm like, fuck, I was on there for how long? Like, where are my kids at? Like, I got like, Eight hours a day. Yeah. Like, when you see them seven, eight, nine hours, you're on that. Like, how is that even possible? And then greed, you all want to make money? Sloth, we sitting there just scrolling. Like, the most fucking, like, you've committed all seven deadly sins in an hour. Damn, I never thought of it that way. That's crazy. Like, so, but let's all accept it. We're all equal. How do we become better? How do we elevate? How do we use these devices? How do we use this to get out of the mud? Like, and that's because that's the other end of it, too. It's not a death sentence to want you on it. Now, now the devil's got a hold of you. You can't ever let go. That's the beauty of God. That's the beauty of the journey. You'll be like, we started this way. And because of what we believe, we can elevate. And I think that's where people get lost in it. They're too busy damning people to hell. They're too many people or too busy, you know, casting others out saying, you're wrong and I'm right, opposed to like, we're all wrong. Nobody figured it out. So how do we fucking come together and elevate or at least help one another get out of the mud? Wow, that's deep, man. There's levels to this game. It is. Holy crap. So you don't think much. My drop. Boom. So I don't think we'll ever know the true game being played. Why would you want to figure it out? Okay, once you figure it out, then what? Once you found the fucking puppet master, and you're facing the final boss, are you going to become, now are you an archangel? Like what the fuck? Like just again, it gets to say it's ego. Oh, I know more than you. It's not about that. It's about my current experience. How can I be the best individual? And it's like, you know, I study stoicism so much and it's like, you're only in control of who you are. Anything else, that, leave that shit outside. Like I want to be the best version of myself each and every day. And it's, you know, it's even like Marcus Aurelia said it best is like, spend no time arguing what a good man is, just be one. Right. So you don't try to control your kids? I try to, I always want them to be happy. I just want to, I want to equip them with everything, whether it's information, whether it's ability, you, and I think as parents, our job is to harness them in a way, create boundaries, create parameters to build things like respect, compassion, but let them be free in a way to that they become the best version of themselves. Not who we want them to be. And I think again, we get caught up in that shit. Oh yeah. You got to go to this school, you got to be this, you got to do this. And then now you've stifled this individual who could have been this, but you took them this way because of your vision, opposed to like, let me give them everything I got and watch them take it because they're going to be smarter than you. They're going to be savvier than you. Just that's, that's called evolution. Right. But if you put all your bullshit onto them, then now what have we done? Yup. A lot of parents project, right? Yeah. And it's like, and then, and then they mad at the kids. Like you got a badass kid, that's your fucking fault. That's what happened to me. And I was like, you did that. Yeah. Like, and now you mad at yourself because you got to fuck up as a kid because you didn't do what you were supposed to do as a parent. So again, I think that cycle is starting to end because I think people are starting to have these level of conversations. And you know, I do see people having a softer approach. And when I say soft, I don't mean like you got to be easy on them, but it's done with love. It's done with empathy where, you know, our parents were too busy chasing the bag. Yeah. Our parents were too busy trying to put a roof over here. And we appreciate it, but we've kind of figured that out. Now let's figure out how to love one another, how to give them everything that they need outside of finances. Yeah. I definitely think it's evolving because like our parents generation, there was physical abuse. I would say for my generation, it was more verbal. Yeah. It wasn't as much hands being thrown. Right. And now it's more like a new era. Right. Yeah. Like now people, I love the way people parent now. Like, and not, you know, not just myself, but I love how they, they communicate with their kids. And, you know, they let them express themselves, still apply the boundaries. And it's even a thing because I grew up getting ass whoopings and all that shit. And I understand that, you know, but when you realize like, damn, that's even like a slave mentality that you do something wrong. I'm going to give you lashes. Right. Like that's not how you treat humans. Like that's not how you treat anybody. But we didn't take the time to understand what house is child feeling. Why are they behaving in the way that they are? And we're all frustrated. The kids frustrated, you're frustrated. Let's all take a deep breath. I'm the elder. How can I communicate with this child to understand? Okay. What are you feeling? Because what you did was not correct. Like, but what made you? You want to do that? And then once they're intelligent enough to put it all together and there's still authority there, if you keep fucking up, I'm going to take something away from you. Like you're going to lose freedoms because that's what happens in life. Like the greatest punishment in in time was exile. That's that's how prisons and penitentiaries were created. They would take someone from the tribe or the village and if you a fuck up, they would put you somewhere where you could not come back. And whatever happened to you, the lions are going to eat your ass or some shit like that. They left it up to you. So even in that sense of removing things for even an apparent, you know, child scenario, that's that's in my opinion, the correct way to correct it. You need a moment. You need separation. And it's not the time out mentality. It's more like, all right, you keep disobeying me looking out for you through love. Then I have to show you that there are consequences, but I don't have to get physical with you. You're already intimidated by me. I'm already bigger than you. I can already pick you up and move you wherever I need to. So I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do it to where you actually learn and whatever trigger goes off when that bad thing comes up again. You're like, yeah, I don't want to have to go through that. Bars, thanks for that advice, man. I just got married. One of kids soon. So there it is. Don't hit your kids. Put them in martial arts though. So they do know what a punch feels like. You don't want to raise no pussies. Oh, Nick, this is fun, man. What are you working on next? Where can people find you and all that? Shit, so much, man. How about shit? I'm fucking up your mic and breaking shit. A real mic drop. We come here and break shit. Mass singers currently on, you know, still number one show on TV with celebrities. Sing in Halloween costumes. Great show. That's a lot of fun. So that's, we're in the middle of that season. Wildin' Out. You come to Vegas, right? Yeah. That's why I'm gonna stop in the next one. You should be on the show. Oh, it's hard with sock, but I'll try. No, but that's the thing. Like, I'm taking, so I don't want to, you know, reveal too much, but we're doing it in a different way. Oh, yeah? And we've always been going from city to city, but now I'm bringing my friends out. Okay. And we fucking are out. Oh, I'm in. Let's do it. And it's like, before such as, like, you know, we had 20 years of like, you got to be a great battle rapper. You got to be a great comedian. Now it's like everybody. Let's go. Yeah, count me in for that, man. There it is. All right, man. Thanks for coming on. No doubt, dude. Yeah, this was awesome. That was a great episode. Please guys. Yeah.