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Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. Investing in creative thinkers and problem solvers who help people, communities, and the planet flourish. More information is available at Hewlett.org. From NPR and WBEC Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me The NPR News Quiz. That big ball in Times Square doesn't drop until it hears me count down from ten. I'm Bill Curtis and here is your host at the Studebaker Theatre in the Fine Arts building in Chicago, Illinois. Peter Segal. Thank you Bill. Thank you everybody. Thank you everybody. The new year has begun but since we're so nervous about what's going to happen, we've decided to just pretend that it hasn't. 2025 isn't over until I say it's over. So we're going to spend another show for rightly avoiding the future and we'll start with something it killed me to miss when it happened. Pedro Pascal is one of my favorite actors so I was extremely jealous of guest host Tom Papa getting to interview him in August. It was better this way Peter. You had a fainted dead away the second you saw his face. Thank you. Thank you for having me. So great to see it's really nice to meet you. I feel like we all feel like we know you because you're literally in every movie. How do you... I know I'm sorry about that. No, it makes us all very happy. How do you keep your character straight? You must be filming some of these things at the same time, right? There were intersections and you know I'm in about 10 minutes of Eddington and Eddington is two hours and 20 minutes so there was time. Right. It's not that hard. But I mean what a run. I mean Narcos and Game of Thrones, Marvel, DC, Star Wars. Are you going to leave anything for any other actor or... No, no. No, it's all not. You started as a actor in New York mainly, right? You were struggling actor in New York? Yes, yes. That was like the longest role of my life was from the special life. Wow. And how... and you must have started getting parts there and you slowly... did you do like commercial work, that kind of stuff? I mean I couldn't get arrested to be honest with you. There was... I had like a little bit of a promising start with jobs that were in Los Angeles actually but as far as New York was concerned it just was a rough go. I was a waiter and I was really bad at it. But I still didn't have the skill to learn something else and I did eventually learn how to wait tables. I became good at it but boy it took years. What was the struggle in waiting tables for you? What was the hard part? Just the logistical labor of meeting everyone's needs and the right manner of the act one, the water, act through the drink, and read the... you know what I mean? Upsheel, you know, like the whole of everything and making them feel attended to and respected and everything and I desperately didn't want to be there. I want to be honest with you. I've never understood the waiter's journey until that moment, a paper. That was beautiful. Wow. I'm going to tip more every time like I see what you're doing. So at that time what was scarier? The world in the last of us or your first apartment in New York? Oh gosh. Wow. Okay. Yeah exactly. I mean you know I thought my apartment was really cute and I... when I moved out to Brooklyn the only place I could afford was a tiny little place in Red Hook and I remember taking a friend of mine to it years, years, years later while I still had the weeds and she looked like she was going to cry. Like he just was dumbfounded and it was hilarious so I don't know. Maybe to some people my apartment in Red Hook, Brooklyn, but to me definitely the post-apocalyptic nightmare. Yeah. Well there was a lot of fungal nightmares in that apartment. I was curious for the last of us which is so brilliant but I know so many people and Peter is who I'm filling in for today. He played the last of us on his playstation, the video game and he was so moved. He talks to me about it like he's so moved by that game. It really hooked people in a profound way. Did you play that game before you start in the adaptation? No I tried. I really, I tried. I tried and my nephew didn't have the patience so it took the concert to me and I was just like well then you f**king do it I'm sorry. And so I just watched him play. It's such a thumpsk I was like it is you know I mean you know it's like running in a corner and I couldn't get out of a corner and you're gonna like pick up the ladder and you gotta you know all these things I couldn't figure it out. It's funny to think of you going through the script when you get the role and looking like where's the corner scene? Yeah you've been recognized by so many award committees. How did it feel to be named Grindr's 2024 hottest man of the year? You are lying to me. You're not aware of this? You're lying to me. I'm not. That is the truth then I need to go. Except it's 2025. You're probably yeah the buzz is worn off. All right. I didn't even know it. All right Pedro Pascale we've asked you here to play a game we're calling the last of us weekly. You star in HBO's The Last of Us but what do you know about us weekly? The celebrity gossip magazine for folks who think people magazine is too literary. You're right. Answer two out of three questions right and you'll win our prize for one of our listeners. Bill who is Pedro playing for? John Beba of New Market New Hampshire. All right. All right you ready to play? I'm ready to play. Okay here's your first question. Us Weekly is one of the best selling magazines in the world but some issues sell better than others. According to a former employee which of these is the kiss of death for an issue of us weekly. A when the note from the editor at the beginning of the magazine starts with listen they can't all be winners. B when the issue includes the rare stars they're just like us only much much better column or C when the magazine's cover has a picture of literally any man on it. Let's do word. Let's do let's do C. C the answer is C. You're right. According to the employee having a picture of a man on the cover pretty much guarantees that the magazine will under sell which is crazy because who doesn't want to know about Kevin Jonas' skincare routine. Here's your next question. Slate called us Weekly Celebrity Questionnaire 25 things you don't know about me the best magazine feature in all of media. As proof they cited shares 2013 profile where she revealed what? A that she's gone by just share for so long she's completely forgotten what her last name is. B that all of her imaginary friends growing up were lumberjacks or C that the original lyrics for if I could turn back time were about stopping the JFK assassination. I mean it's got to be B that was that was that those were my friends. You're right it was B. Share also revealed that she owns quote a large collection of elephants. We always you can't have a small collection of elephants. All right here's your last question. Without a doubt the most popular section in us Weekly is stars they're just like us where the magazine post pictures of celebrities doing everyday things with captions including which of these. A they tie their own shoes. B they eat Mexican food or C they squint in the sun. I'm going to have to get like help from the audience right between A and C. What all of them they would literally say they eat Mexican food. You're right all of the above. With thankfully though don't they don't do all those things at the same time. Bill how did Pedro Pascal do on our quiz. Did he do anything better than be a winner? Pedro! Pedro Pascal is starring in the Fantastic Four and he's up for an Emmy for HBO's The Last of Us. Pedro Pascal thank you so much for joining us on Weightway Downtown. When we come back some of our panelists best lies of the past year and how Abbott Elementary softly let you know that one of its characters was secretly a genius. That's when we return with more of Weightway don't tell me from NPO. Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hullitt Foundation. Investing in creative thinkers and problem solvers who help people, communities and the planet flourish. More information is available at huilitt.org. From NPR and WBEC Chicago this is Weight-Wate Don't Tell Me. The NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis and here is your host at the Studebaker Theatre and the Fine Arts Building in Chicago. Peter Segal. Thank you Bill. Thanks everybody. Thank you. So we know the calendar says it is now 2026 but we are refusing to look at it. Imagine saying la la la we can't hear you but with your eyes. In our world it's still 2025 and it is so great here for example. Here are our panelists lovingly lying to you in a show we did in March. Hi Peter this is Kim and I'm calling from Cumberland Maine so I was born and raised in Saskatchewan. Right so you moved from Saskatchewan Canada to Maine the United States. Yes. Do you regret that now? Sometimes yeah. What do you do there in Cumberland Maine? So I made primary care doctor. Oh you are? Yeah. That's the best kind of doctor as far as I'm concerned. Yeah all about the preventative care. Yeah exactly. Well welcome to our show Kim. You're going to play the game moment you have to tell truth from fiction. Bill what is Kim's topic? Honey you're on TV. It's always fun to be on TV whether it's being interviewed in the local news or maybe seen in the crowd at a football game or French kissing your brother on the white lotus. This week we're heard about somebody getting on screen for somewhat surprising reason. Our panel is each going to tell you about it. Pick the real story you will win our prize. The weight weight of your choice on your voice mail. Are you ready to play? Yeah. All right let's hear it first from Paula Poundstone. Just before the start of their recent soccer game Bulgarian team Arda paid tribute to recently deceased former team member Petko Gonchev. Both teams lined up and bowed their heads for a moment of silence. Meanwhile the 78-year-old Gonchev was running late to get home to watch the game on TV as was his practice. He wasn't dead. When he pulled up at his house his wife came out crying and shouting, Petko, Petko they announced on TV that you were dead. Gonchev was so shaken by not being dead. He downed a glass of friendly. So many people called me relatives, friends, acquaintances and not so big acquaintances Gonchev said. Like maybe Stoyan, Ivan's friend from the bar that he met that time. Petko, yes it's me Stoyan. Do I know you? Yes we met at the bar that time. I'm Ivan's friend. Were you wearing a striped shirt? No I had a blue shirt. Oh yes Stoyan, hello! Petko, are you dead? Petko may not have been dead but he did watch a moment of silence for himself on the TV before a soccer game. Your next story of a television tale comes from Alonzo Bowden. Matt Collins worked for Amazon. Everyone thought Amazon Prime one day delivery was fast, then they saw Matt run. KCAB obtained this video from a neighbor's ring camera. Matt was dropping a package when Thor, a notorious neighborhood German shepherd got loose. In the video Matt ran past his truck, leaped a small garden hedge and increased the distance between himself and Thor until Thor simply gave up. Thor wasn't the only one to see Matt run. Pete Walker, who once coached Dion Prime Time Sanders, said Matt was the fastest man he's seen since he saw Dion run a 4-2-40 in college. Pete had to find and time Matt. Matt ran a 4-3-5-40. Now it's rumored Thor's 40 time was about 4-5 but no one's been brave enough to verify that. It turned out Matt had been a high school player but he didn't get recruited for college and was working at Amazon to help pay for his education. Well, Matt won't have that problem anymore. Since he didn't play college ball even at age 21 Matt had his full eligibility and is now a full time scholarship as cornerback at Alcorn State University. And Amazon delivery man is caught on camera out running a German shepherd and gets himself a football scholarship. Your last story of somebody getting screen time comes from Eugene Cordero. When Jason Estrelis of Alhambra, California began his day with his usual cup of coffee and switching on the local morning news, he was met with a story asking are we too addicted to junk food? During the segment it showed stock footage of various people eating fast food or drinking soda. There was one noticeable snippet to Mr Estrelis of a man drinking an extra large soda holding a hot dog and wearing a green t-shirt that read, got a bad case of bad shingles, we can cure it. Estrelis roofing. This was, in fact, Jason Estrelis himself in the video. And he was shocked. I was excited at first that I was on the news until I saw what the story was about. Said Estrelis. But lucky for him more people were intrigued with the shirt than they were about his quick meal options that he chose. Businesses picked up quite a bit. Mr Estrelis said, I hope they keep using the footage. It's free advertising plus a few customers have had hot dogs ready when I arrived to do the job. All right, very few choices. Somebody was surprised to see themselves on TV. Was it from Paula Poundstone, an elderly former soccer player who watched his own memorial service with a moment of silence even though he was still alive to watch it from Alonzo Bowden, an Amazon delivery guy who was caught on camera and then on the news sprinting so fast he got himself a gig and a football team or from Eugene Cordero, a man who saw himself use as an example of an unhealthy lifestyle. But it ended up bringing him some business which of these is the real story of a surprise TV appearance. I think I'm going to go with Paula's story. You're going to go with Paula's story. Well, to find out the correct answer, we spoke to a reporter covering the real story. At a football match in Bulgaria, there was a minute silence for a former player of PFC Harder who wasn't actually dead. That was Guardian reporter Paul McIens talking about the moment of silence at the soccer game. Congratulations, Kim. Paula was telling the truth. I took a moment to flare at the people who objected. Paula was telling the truth. You are to point for her for doing so, but you yourself have won our prize. The voice of your choice on your voicemail. Congratulations. Well done. Thanks for calling and playing. Here is another interview. I am really eager to revisit because I missed it the first time. In June, guest host McGee and Farstad, interviewed actor Chris Perfetti from the hit sitcom Abbot Elementary. They talked about what makes Chris character the smartest, most sophisticated person ever seen on TV. Chris, I first of all love the show. You're so funny. We have something in common. We both started out our careers in entertainment as baristas. Apparently you were a Starbucks barista, right? I still feel bad to it about it to this day, but I sort of used it as a way to get a job elsewhere. I knew about this kind of Starbucks loophole that if you got hired, you could be transferred somewhere. I knew when I went to drama school, I needed a job. I didn't tell them, but I applied and got a job in my hometown just so that I would have some work when I went to school. Oh, wow. Okay, so then they just put you at another Starbucks. Yeah, there's like a few of them, I guess. Okay, so as a Starbucks barista, did you intentionally screw up names on the cup? I was not trusted with the customers. They learned very early. At the bar to make the drinks, that was really good at that. I could, you know, but were you doing the hearts, the heart shapes and the palm tree shapes on the foam? Oh no, there was no time. What are you talking about? There was, I feel like I worked at quite possibly the busiest Starbucks in the world. And so you were just lucky if your order came out correct. So you spent this time at Starbucks, but you did a, you know, you put a lot of time in serious theater. Is there like a favorite theatrical piece that you did? I don't know. I think doing Shakespeare in the park really kind of like came up first for me. You're doing a play for first of all just so many people. It's outdoors and sometimes it rains halfway through and flip and fall on your butt in front of everyone. That happened. You fell on your butt in front of everyone? Maybe. Maybe it happened more than once. Now, let's actually, let's talk about Abbott Elementary. There's something about that show that the elephant in the room, which is that you have one major quirk in the show. Your character is a huge weight weight, don't tell me fan. Now, that's yeah. Huge fan of the show. Now, I want you to be honest. Did you know about weight weight before you were that character? Are you kidding, Niki? Oh, thank God. And using that just kind of has renewed my fears about season five, I'm terrified about, you know, the line between Chris and Jacob is getting very blurry and decided to not share with Quinta any other personal details about my life because, you know, we show up to a table read and there it is. So, I'm so glad that that made it into our show. So, when that trait was given to you, did that affect like how you did that character? Was it, you're like, oh no, I got this. Like, how did, what did you change about the character, knowing that you could go full weight weight, dork? Really not much. I mean, I feel like Quinta has given us such permission to, you know, be sort of the authority on these characters and I think it made perfect sense. And once again, I'm just like, I'm terrified about what's going to show up next season. Now, actually, so I heard this rumor and I wonder if it's true. I heard it remember that your mom pitches ideas for Abid Elementary. Yeah, she totally does. God bless her. She reminds me that the show is on and she likes to, you know, kind of like go through the plot of that week with me when I call on Sundays. And... Did she give notes? That's always a joy. Yeah, yeah, she thinks... Yeah. Yeah, sure. Did she also do that with Shakespeare in the park? My mother has given notes on everything I have done since the beginning. So you play this iconic teacher on TV. Have your own like teachers from the past approach you with tips or feedback? Oh, no. I think they, I think if they ever saw me in person again, they would probably physically harm me. They'd very clear of them and probably they of me, I made their lives a living hell. But I'm very... You were not, were you like not a good student? No, not at all. Oh. Now, I really enjoyed school, but school did not enjoy me. All right, Chris. Well, we've asked you here to play a game we're calling... Abbott Elementary, meet the elementary Abbott. So you star in Abbott Elementary? Don't be scared, don't be scared. It's gonna be okay. Flashback. It wasn't good at school, McGeein. Okay, so you star in Abbott Elementary, so we thought we'd ask you three questions about another kind of Abbott. That's right, we're talking about monks. Answer two out of three questions correctly and you'll win a prize for one lucky listener, the voice of anyone they choose for their voicemail. Bill, who is Chris Perfetti playing for? Jake Evans of Los Angeles, California. Jacob, let's go! Okay, here's your first question. A group of monks in the French Alps have taken a vow of silence, but they are allowed to speak in certain conditions, including which of these. Is it A, when singing along to their favorite bad bunny song? Is it B, when they really need to talk about a cool leaf they saw? Or is it C, when calling the monastery cats to dinner by making kitty-calling noises? I really didn't think I needed to hear any more options after A, but I'm glad I did. I'm gonna go with C, I think. Wow, that's right! Very good. That's right, every Abbey makes an exception to their vow of silence as long as the monks are being adorable. Okay, here's your next question. Monks are known for living lives of peaceful contemplation, which is why one monk in Japan got in trouble when he started doing what? Was it A, halfway through meditation time, he loudly said, Boooooriiiiine! Is it B, angrily responding to every negative yelp review about his monastery? Or is it C, trying to jazz up the chance by doing some sick harmonies? I feel like I want to go with B. That is right! When one reviewer complained about the food at the Abbey, the monk responded, and this is true, yeah, it's monastic cuisine you uneducated f***ing! Oh! 2025 will do that to a monk. All right, here is your last question. Though it surprises a lot of people, monks have unknowingly made a huge impact on pop culture as proven by which of these. Is it A, La Nordes Dun-Dun Sound is partly a recording of 500 monks stomping on a wood floor? Is it B, the members of the band one direction first met during a school trip to a monastery? Or C, the reason Vin Diesel shaves his head is because a monk came to him in a dream and told him he'd look cool bald. God bless you, wait, wait, don't tell me. Those are so funny, I'm going to go with A. Yeah, that's right! The Dun-Dun also includes a sound of a hammer hitting an anvil, and if you listen closely, the scream of a man who just hit his thumb with a hammer. Bill, how did Chris Preventy do? The teacher is always right, and this teacher got every single one correct. Yeah! Yeah! I'm going to be proud. Congratulations, Chris, you're a big winner! And Chris Preventy is one of the stars of Abbot Elementary. All four seasons are streaming now. Chris Preventy, thank you so much for joining us on, a way, don't tell me! Thank you, great. I love you. Thank you so much, Chris. When we come back, we talk to a real housewife of Salt Lake City, and we've got the receipts, proof, timeline, and screenshots to prove it. Thank you. That's when we come back with more of Weight Weight Don't Tell Me from NPR. From NPR and WBEC Chicago, this is Weight Weight Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis, and here is your host at these due to Baker Theatre, and the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Peter Seigel. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, everybody. We have decided to spend the start of the new year desperately clinging to the old one. Come back 2025, come back! We knew all year that no matter how stressful the week was, at least at the end we got to hang out with our panelists. So always made things seem, well, not better, at least, sillier. Here are some examples of what I mean. Luke, an expert, an automated customer service lines has offered some tips on how to get through it to a real person. For example, he suggests you should say one word over and over. What is that word? I don't think I can say it on public radio. That's right. We've all tried that word, but this is something you can say, perhaps, if your children are listening. Oh, okay. I usually start out yelling human, and then when that doesn't work, then I break out the F word. Right. Because I might turn it into both of those. Okay. You say it'll work. Okay, can I give you a hint? Yeah, it might get confusing if you're calling say, customer service for the Chiquita Corporation. Banana. Banana, banana. You can now stop being the worst version of yourself. Every time you call customer service and end up screaming, speak to human. Representative. Representative. Now you can just say, banana, banana, banana. Say it over and over again. The automated system is looking for certain words. So repeating a nonsense word or a word, it's not programmed for over and over. We'll get you transferred to a real person quickly. Wow. So, uh, you have to be a minion. Yeah, pretty much. You just have to be a banana. Banana, banana. Wow. Of course, even if this works, it's hard to feel like you're winning when you're the one going, banana, banana, banana. Yeah. Paula, according to the Wall Street Journal, the cosmetic industry has finally moving away from floral and natural sense, the latest trend in perfumes and shampoo, stuff like that, is being scented like what? Fish. Oh. No, I don't think so. I'm assuming it's popular. Industrial waste. No. I'll give you a hint. Insiders say that you should only wear, you have to be careful. You should only wear, for example, crispy cream when the fresh hot sign is lit. You smell like donuts? Yes, donuts. Donuts are the new sense. According to Wall Street Journal, dessert-based fragrances now dominate the market. These are all true. There's natives Boston cream, shampoo, doves confetti cake, body scrub, homeworks, apple cider, donut fragrance. They say, if you put these on, they give you this aura that says, tonight I am hitting the club and I am going to attract bees. Never dated so many cops in my life. What the hell's going on? But really it's the reaction I think, so much understanding. This makes sense because as far as I know, it's the reaction every woman wants to inspire. Excuse me, miss, but I have to ask her, you wearing Duncan number five. Do they make a toilet water with donuts smell? Because isn't that what they call one of the products? Yeah, toilet water is what we call it. That seems a turn off. Toilet water. I think it doesn't mean toilet in the sense that you're thinking. Yes, but it's the same word, Peter, and it's pronounced much the same. Peter, in the latest nostalgia craze, more and more 20 and 30 somethings are getting injured doing what? Opening a coconut water. Did that happen to you here? That happened to me when I cleared 40. Not a coconut, just being like, they're getting nostalgic. Jamming themselves into telephone booths. No. Is it something nostalgic like that? The people, young people, they should do a lot of time. Well, it's nostalgic from their youth, not from safe. Oh, a year's ago. Well, as a member of that generation, let me just harken back. No, I'll take a hint. I'll say it. It's like duck duck. Ow, my ACL. Oh, duck duck goose. Yes. That's a great hint. And other summer camp. Plank brown. You're a summer guest. What you said. Exactly. Ding! You're so smart. Boy, I did that all by myself. Adult field days are all the rage right now. Growing ups are competing in childhood games, sac races, dodgeball, tug of war. They're doing these things with the energy of youth and the knees of age. They've even invented new games. The most popular one is called Limping Back to the Car. And it's people in their 20s and 30s? Yeah. That's they shouldn't be getting injured. Doing that. They should be still doing it well. You think. One social club in Utah drew over 300 people to their field day event. And the only complaint was people who thought the capture of the flag game involved. And this is a real quote. Too much running. That is a little weird. In their 20s and 30s, they should be injured from these things. They should not be getting injured. That's like people in the Olympics are that old, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure they are. Yeah. Exactly. I think I would do it if I could play children. Because I think I could beat them. I think I could beat children. Says Peter Segolo of NPR's, wait, don't talk to him. Wow. Yeah. You know what? The federal government just pulled their funding again. Yeah, no. Joliel, a recent survey of kids in the US shows 40% of children think bacon is what? Delicious? Perhaps I shall give you a hand to Joliel. For sure, I would appreciate that. I think we all would. Thank you so much. You can say to the kid, you know, eat all you want. It grows on trees. Oh gosh. A plant? Yes, they think bacon is a plant survey in the journal of environmental psychology showed 40% of kids surveyed. Think bacon is a plant. The same amount of adults think it's a donut topping, which is even weird. I did use to work at a diner that had vegetarian options and I hid one serve, what was supposed to be a tempé, BLT, an actual BLT to a vegetarian. Ooh. And I was like, how is everything? And I saw it and they went, this is the best tempé. Ever had. And I just looked at them and went, it's really good. Finally, one of the surprise TV hits of the year was Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. John Oliver, for example, said that no matter what your favorite show was, Real Housewives of SLC was better. So of course, when we visited Salt Lake in August, we welcomed that show's breakout star Heather Gaye. Peter asked the obvious question to a real housewife. Is she real? We are all pretty real. And I think Salt Lake City keeps this real. Right. We're all each other has in this community and we have grown up here. We have lived here. We have roots here. And we are just messed up enough to keep it interesting. Right. Do you think you are representative of the Housewives of Salt Lake City? Well, the random sample could have entered up at the same cat. Yes, I feel like we are representative of the Housewives of Salt Lake City. There's a little something for everybody. There you go. Now, I just want to make it clear, to be more familiar, this is not secret lives of Mormon wives. Different show. For someone who's new to it, how would you tell the two shows apart? I would say that we are the mighty oak and secret lives of Mormon wives is the acorn that fell and sprouted as a result of that. Wow. Wow. Oh, wow. You got to tell them. Tell them. We proved the market. Tell them, baby. And we created a little bit of Mormonism in the zeitgeist. Yes. We created intrigue, I think. That that mighty oak is casting some shade. So, so Housewives shows are known for the Housewives. Starting to show every season, by turning to the camera, right? Giving your opening like line. What's our technical term for that? The opening. It's called your tagline. Your tagline? Yeah, your season tagline. Can you share some of yours? My first one was, just like my pioneer ancestors, I'm trying to blaze a new trail. Wow. Hello. Yeah. And that shoulder rotation is so important to me. Yes. And then I think season two was, I was raised Mormon, but now I'm raising a glass of shanty. That's it. Yeah, I've had a couple. I've had six now. No. Yeah, six. Wow. Do you workshop them? Do you try them? No, they're assigned. No. No. You're allowed to contribute to ideas, but they shut those to how them immediately. Wait a minute. My world has been wronged. Somebody wrote that for you? Well, I had alluded so much to my pioneer ancestry that it kind of wrote itself. It did a weird way. Yeah. Yeah. And you can kind of, they'll give you three or four to keep you guessing. And you can kind of try to mess up the ones that you don't like that don't represent you fully. Yeah. Do you remember any of the bad ones, the ones you tried to kind of fumble? Well, they're usually picked. I remember, like, I may be a bad Mormon, but I'm always a good time. Oh. And I think I said that in a funny way, and they used the funny way, which made it invariably worse. Yeah. Heather, a huge fan. So glad you're here. Thank you. I cannot believe that my worlds are climbing like this. Would you indulge me? Could I workshop a tagline? Anything, please. I don't wait, wait, but I always tell. There you go. Oh. I love it. And then I turn. Pretty good. Very good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. If the world could have seen Shane, you're smoldering glass. Thank you. And I am willing to relocate to Salt Lake City. So you have a new book called Good Time Girl. Yes. And this book is sort of a recounting of your various exploits, presumably once you left the LDS Church. Can you give everybody sort of a taste, a sample of the stories you tell in your new book, Good Time Girl? My senior trip to Tijuana, where I discovered that I might be more of a Good Time Girl than I anticipated. As one does in Tijuana. Yes. It's right there in the name. Yeah. And I thought I was having the most worldly foreign experience of my life. Tijuana. Right. But then I later went on a mission for my church in the South of France, which ended up being even more of an adventure. It's amazing. I didn't realize that you had gone on an LDS mission to the South of France. If only the church had not sent you to a place with wine. Yes. The land of love and I was preaching celibacy and so for living. Not so great. Not so great. Not so receptive. The church was actually closed down. When in province. Yeah. Don't be Mormon. Yeah. That's what they say. Yeah. Well, Heather, we could talk to you all day, I think. But we have asked you to play a game we're calling. Good time, girl. Meet good crime girl. As you know, some woman art is virtuous as you. And they cross the bright red line of the law. So we're going to ask you three questions about female criminals. And so you're too correctly. You'll win our prize for one of our listeners. Also, who is Heather Gay playing for? Melissa Snyder of Mill Creek, Utah. Why so cold? There you go. Everybody does here. So here's your first question. A woman in Florida took a lift to a gas station, robbed it, and then we tried to get back in the lift. The driver refused. So what did the woman then do? A gave the driver one star and sent a detailed complaint to lift. B returned all the stolen goods, gave up in the robbery, and got back in the car. Or C just called an Uber instead, because they'll do anything. Well, I'm wondering if the lift had a pink mustache attached to the fender? Oh, yeah. Because that could be a factor. As an Uber fan, I'm going to go with C. You're going to go with Uber. Yes, that's what she did. Woo! I'm applauding through myself. We have to do that on the outside, because no one else will. The lift driver called the police, and the police found her waiting for the Uber. She had ordered. All right, very good. Here's your next question. A massive chewsits woman convicted of making and possessing cocaine, meth, LSD, and other drugs in 2016 got sent to prison, but also, of course, lost her job. What was her job? A, she was the president of DARE, the police program, to encourage me to not do these drugs. B, the scientist in charge of drug testing for police across the state of Massachusetts, or C, Harvard Law Professor. I'm just going to zero in on the making of and assume that there is some scientific background for the chemical creation of such a litany of drugs, which I'm completely unfamiliar with. Absolutely. I... Wait a minute. Let me quickly check the index of your new book. I'm a good time girl, not a great time girl. Okay. No more limits. So I'm going to go with B. You're going to go with B. That's right. She was in charge of drug testing. She says that she went to work high-end cocaine every day for eight years. Wow. She sounds like a real housewife. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. You're doing great. Let's go for perfect. One of the most famous lady lawbreakers of all time was mob Barker, whose kids and husband were part of a notorious gang of bank robbers back in the 1930s. But she was also a beloved cultural figure as evidenced by what? A Barker House Rolls based on her family recipe, which were later changed to Barker House Rolls because of her bad press. B, people came out to have picnics while watching her final shootout with the FBI, or C, while on the run, she got an endorsement deal from Smith and Wesson, which she called, quote, mama's little helper. I mean, I believe that Angie Dickinson started a movie called Big Bad Mama in the 70s. Was that based on... Mama Barker? I don't know. Well, I only could watch it when my parents weren't home on HBO and in segments. So I'm going to go with B. You're going to go with B. They came out to watch her have her shootout. That's right. Wow. Yeah. It happened. Don't challenge me with perfection. I will take it. It happened naturally in Florida. And the shootout with the FBI lasted so long that people were like, oh, this will be fun. And they packed a picnic lunch and they came out and they watched the gunfight. Wow. Yeah. Well, I mean, you got it right. And then just goes to show you kids, please stay up late and sneak and watch HBO. Yeah. You'll be a winner. There is good to be clean from rated our movies. Yeah. There you go. Also, how did Heather Gaye do in our quiz? She did criminally well. Three out of three. Heather Gaye is an author, but of course, one of the real housewives of Salt Lake City, her new book, Good Time Girl, is available now. Please give it up for Heather Gaye. Thank you so much for being on my way home. That's it for our Happy Old Years Day edition. 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