Giggling about geosexuals, gray hair, and invisible ink
52 min
•May 19, 202611 days agoSummary
Hannah and Paige discuss their weekend experiences including a chaotic Sports Illustrated event where Hannah lost her belongings, a wedding where Paige's dress was too tight, and various pop culture moments. They also dive into trending topics like 'geosexuals,' gray hair management, and analyze the Netflix documentary 'The Crash' about a controversial car accident case.
Insights
- Gen Z attitudes toward personal items (wallets, IDs, keys) reflect a shift toward digital-first solutions and perceived invulnerability, creating real-world risks
- Women's social dynamics in their 30s differ significantly from younger years—forming new friendships becomes rare and requires intentional effort
- Documentary framing and selective evidence presentation can dramatically shift audience perception of guilt or innocence in true crime narratives
- Gray hair acceptance remains gendered; men benefit from 'distinguished' perception while women face stigma despite similar aging
- Event logistics and dress design often lack female perspective, resulting in practical failures (VIP sightlines, movement constraints)
Trends
Geosexual identity emerging as lifestyle choice among younger celebrities (location-based intimacy preferences)True crime documentary skepticism growing as audiences recognize selective editing and missing evidence across platformsGen Z normalization of going out without ID/wallet/keys, relying entirely on digital payment and phone-based identificationWomen's fashion and event wear increasingly prioritized for Instagram aesthetics over practical wearabilityUndercover security concept gaining traction as alternative to traditional visible bodyguard modelsGray hair management products (spray-on dyes) becoming mainstream beauty category for younger demographicsPodcast sponsorships expanding into B2B SaaS (payment systems, broadband) targeting business-minded audiencesBookTok/Bookstagram creating pressure around reading speed and consumption rates among adult readers
Topics
Gen Z digital-first lifestyle and abandonment of traditional personal itemsFemale friendship formation and maintenance in adulthoodTrue crime documentary ethics and selective evidence presentationGray hair normalization and gendered aging perceptionsEvent fashion design and practical wearabilityUndercover security and alternative bodyguard modelsGeosexual identity and location-based lifestyle choicesWedding etiquette and social anxiety at formal eventsDress fitting and corseted fashion complicationsPodcast audience demographics and sponsorship alignmentReading speed and literacy trends among adultsCelebrity dating and relationship dynamicsHair color transitions and identity shiftsAnxiety management through beta-blockers at social eventsItalian cultural traditions and wedding customs
Companies
Square
Payment processing system sponsor; hosts discussed using Square for their podcast business operations and merchandise
New Balance
Running apparel sponsor mentioned in ad read promoting their running product line
Gigaclear
Rural broadband provider sponsor offering fiber internet connectivity in rural UK areas
Dunkin'
Coffee and beverage sponsor; hosts discussed their drink orders (mango pineapple refresher with green tea)
Sports Illustrated
Event host where Hannah attended weekend event; MJ (editor-in-chief) featured in story about lost purse
Netflix
Streaming platform hosting 'The Crash' documentary discussed extensively by hosts
Hulu
Streaming platform with alternative documentary 'Mean Girl Murders' covering same case with additional evidence
Verizon
Telecom company mentioned in opening anecdote about broken wires and slow emergency response
People
Hannah
Co-host discussing personal experiences at Sports Illustrated event and wedding attendance
Paige
Co-host discussing wedding experience and gray hair management strategies
Brooks Nader
Sports Illustrated event attendee; Hannah made new friends with her at the event
Alona Marr
Sports Illustrated event attendee; collaborated with Hannah on undercover bodyguard business idea
Molly Sims
Found and returned Hannah's lost phone at Sports Illustrated event
MJ
Found Hannah's lost purse at Sports Illustrated event and returned it
Kylie Jenner
Mentioned in paparazzi photo discussion with Timothy Chalamet, Kendall Jenner, and Jacob Elordi
Kendall Jenner
Mentioned in paparazzi photo chugging rosé on beach with celebrity group
Timothy Chalamet
Discussed as potential heartthrob in celebrity dating context with Kylie Jenner
Jacob Elordi
Discussed in context of celebrity dating and potential competition with Timothy Chalamet
Harry Styles
Discussed regarding new tour outfit choices and VIP seating design issues
Kesha
Credited with coining term 'geosexual' for location-based intimacy preferences
Steve Carell
Discussed as example of man who became more attractive with age and gray hair
Clayton
Subject of 'Love Trapped' podcast about his experience with obsessive woman after Bachelor appearance
Quotes
"I'm not losing anything here. Right. Like I was surrounded by very successful, smart, cool women. I could leave a newborn baby in the middle of the table and it would have had a better life than me."
Hannah•Sports Illustrated event discussion
"It's like, it's like only eating bread and she only has sex. The most iconic thing I've ever heard."
Paige•Geosexual discussion
"I'm literally raw dogging the Sports Illustrated Party. It's 1994 at the Sports Illustrated Party for Hannah. I'm just hopping into photos smiling. No idea what time it is."
Hannah•Lost phone anecdote
"When I'm in a meeting, if I have a gray that's showing, I'm like, you better fucking listen to me because I've seen some shit."
Paige•Gray hair discussion
"I don't have children. I don't even I don't have kids yet. I'm like, I don't have a pension plan. It's really jarring."
Hannah•Gray hair existential crisis
Full Transcript
What do you giggle about? Just everything, our lives, just everything, everything. Can you tell them what happened this morning? So I'm just minding my own business, I'm about to start the pot. I don't say anything, I don't do anything. And this dump truck drives down the street and literally. Suddenly this huge dump truck starts backing up into me. So stupid, this is so funny. So this dump truck literally drives down the street, takes out every wire in its path, like was way too big to be like driving down the street and the wires were kind of like hanging low. But doesn't it do that same route every day? No, I don't I have no idea. I don't know what. The men have lost it. Yeah, it's like, guys, it's the one thing you do. It's like logistics of the trash. Are you kidding? Are you kidding? No, it's actually two men I looked. It was a man in the front seat driving in the passenger. Oh, so two of them. So the wires are like broken in on the street. And I'm like my first incident is like, we're all going to blow up. Like you can't drive over wires. What if they're like live and like there's electricity running through them, whatever. Like when you're cutting a bomb, like, basically, like if you get the blue, it could all go south. So call Verizon. Verizon's like, sorry, can't come till tomorrow. I'm like, no, this is unacceptable. Call the police station. I said, can I speak to your manager? The president. I literally said to Verizon, oh, bet I'm calling your boss. Think of what's the emergency? Men were being done outside. The police were like, no, that absolutely is an emergency. Like we'll send someone over to like move them out of the way, make sure it's not dangerous and then like, Verizon has to come. So Verizon came like within the next like couple of hours. But I was like, this is ridiculous. We were supposed to record the pod and I'm literally about to set up and Page is like, hey, just broke my Wi-Fi and I go at least get creative with it. I'm appreciative that you made up a creative story. Normally it's a UTI. Hannah did say I knew you were going to think I was lying. So I did take a video. I just didn't send it because there was nothing of interest. But Hannah did say I could be one of the nominees for Women of Stem of the Week if I could figure out how to hot spot. But I couldn't. But alas, here we are. The Wi-Fi is restored. I could not figure out that hot spot. But you still got runner up of One of Stem of the Week, which I'm really proud of you for. It was a hard day. Actually, I feel like you're my Women of Stem of the Week because the amount of outfits you put together in one weekend. No, no, no. You must be so tired. The emotional stress of that. Like it's like I was in an outfit stressed about how I was going to do the next outfit. It's just like a never ending outfit nightmare. Welcome to life. That's your life. And then you post it and you're like, I'm really proud of this. And they're like, think again. I said, pick your favorite if you're a girl's girl. And if you're not a girl's girl, keep it to yourself. But I do have to say me at an event. Yeah, I don't know what happens to me, but it was chaos. Sports Illustrated, Times Square, Vibes are high and I'm making new friends. I actually walked in. It felt like the first day of school where like you don't know anyone and it could go great and it could go horrible. I made so many new friends this weekend. Like I literally was no, they're all blonde. Don't worry. Phew. Xandra. Well, Alona Marr is an athlete, so that doesn't count. Like you guys are not. And Hannah did call me and was like, I love Brooks Nader. I knew you were going to love her because talk about an aura. Yeah, we immediately just started joking and she's she's everything I wanted her to be. Because some people are so different off camera. Like some people shut off off camera. So I was like making friends. Like at the end of the weekend, people were like asking for my number and like an idea. And I was like, am I like a new person? Because now I have like four new friends and that third in your 30s, it doesn't happen. Like I'm in a whole new social situation now. Like I have to cancel plans. Like, right. I don't even know how to keep up with all my friends now. How do people keep up with a big friend group? It's really hard in your 30s. I'm stressed. But during the party, I'm like holding my jacket and my purse. And they're like, you have to go to the red carpet. And I was like, what do I do with my jacket and my purse? Lucho, our king, our Italian prince. Life is literally just asking yourself that question. I'm going to put my jacket in my purse. Am I bringing a jacket? Where is my purse? Is it maybe I left it in this purse? It could be in another purse. Like now where it's in one hotel. Yeah. So I'm like, I can handle this. And Lucho is like, I'll take your jacket. I head down. I'm also chewing gum somehow. I don't know how this happened. I'm about to go in the carpet. Shannon Ford is there and she's like, you can't go in the carpet, chewing gum like that. And I was like, oh, no. And then she's a new mom. She puts her hand out and I go. Put it in her hand. It says, if like when you become a mom, you sign a contract of like all the things you now have to do and like disposing of gum is. And she saw me and her mom alerts when she was at Grownytale. So I get on the carpet. Everything's fun. Oh, I gave my purse to the person you give your purse to. And I'm off the carpet. I'm ready to party. So I get into the party. I'm having fun. And I realize don't have my code or my purse, but I'm not stressed. I'm like, we're all having fun here. So I'm like going around just being like, anyone see you jacket or purse? Okay. Anyway, making friends. This is my literal. I would have. I first of all, I hate losing things because I don't lose things. And also talk about feeling bad for an inanimate object. When I lose like a piece of clothing, I'm like, and they're never coming home with me again. I don't know where mama is. I don't know. And they think that I didn't like them and I was getting rid of them. I wasn't. I wasn't getting rid of you. So I'm like, honestly, whoever has my purse is probably more responsible than I am. So I'm like, they'll hold my purse, but then it started to go like a little too long. I thought someone eventually would come up to me and be like, how do I have your purse? Now, mind you in my head, I'm like, where the fuck is my person to go? Lucho. Lucho clearly has my jacket and my purse. No idea where Lucho is. No idea. I find someone who has Grace's number who has Lucho's number. So I'm actually at this point kind of stressing. You don't have Lucho's number. I don't have my phone, babe. I don't have my phone. I'm literally raw dogging. The Sports Illustrated Party. It's 1994 at the Sports Illustrated Party for Hannah. I'm just hopping into photos smiling. No idea what time it is. Also, meanwhile, not to get into it, but my mom was coming and I didn't leave her a key for the apartment. So my mom is left for dead. Perfect. Left for dead. No, I have no phone and everyone's just taking photos. I'm like, how do you look so pretty? I'm like, I know everyone's just like showing their tits and like. So finally we see Lucho and he's all smiley and he's like, I have your coat and I was like, and where's my purse? And he's like, you never gave me your purse. And I was like, Lucho, I swear to God, if you stole my purse. No, I'm just kidding. I could tell he had no idea where the purse was. So now I have my coat, which is like 50% good. So I'm still dancing. You didn't go up to anyone that worked there. This is my thing. I'm not ruining people's nights yet. Like it was too early in the night for me to be like, I lost my purse. Like everyone was still like sober. We just got to the club. It was their club. So I'm scared. Like half an hour goes by the head of sports illustrated. MJ, the editor-in-chief walks into the party holding my purse. I go up to her and go, that's crazy. That's that's my purse. And she's like, this purse has no identifying information. There's no wallet. There's because it was like a stylist gave me a purse. I didn't put a key. Wow. I didn't put a wallet. I didn't put an ID. I'm like, I don't need ID. I have a Charlotte Tilbury lip liner and my phone and I think a pad for my greasy skin. So she's like, we had no idea who this could be. Hannah, Hannah, not, not more than three days ago. Did I text Josephine for something? And I was like, you have to pay with your card. And she goes, I don't have my wallet. I go, but you're out in the world. You didn't bring a wallet. And she goes, no, I just have like Apple Pay. I'm the type B friend that's literally dancing. And I'm like, I have a flight in an hour. No, I was, I literally go, that's the most Gen Z thing I've ever heard to leave the house without your wallet or your keys. It's something like weirdly rebellious or like empowering where I'm like, I'm not going to fucking bring it. And it's always like the one day they're like, you can't do anything unless you have your ID right now. And I'm like, no, I've ruined nights because I don't have my ID. Well, yeah. One, that is like a very crucial thing to going out at night. And two, what if something happens to you and they need to know who you like, I always am like, I'm Jane Doe. How will they know that it's me? My phone is being blown up by my mom because my mom's like, Hey, there's no key at the apartment. And I'm like, thank you so much, MJ. I appreciate it. I'm just so in the moment of how good this party is. I forgot where all my stuff was. And she's like, everyone got their purse back. You clearly gave it to a girl and just never went to get it back. And I was like, such a valid point. And we've learned and grown from this next day. Lost my phone. Molly Sims randomly is like, whose phone is this? I said, thank you, Molly Sims. That's my phone. The, this is the thing. Cause it's where it's illustrated and it's full of women. I'm like, I'm not losing anything here. Right. Like I was surrounded by very successful, smart, cool women. I could leave a newborn baby in the middle of the table and it would have had a better life than me. Wait, Hannah. So valid. They close like ballroom full of cool women. I'm like, I literally was flinging my, I lost my sunglasses. Someone else found it. Yeah. Then typical me, I had to, I literally had to fly out and everyone's like, you got to go, you got to go. I'm like, yeah, my flight did eight and I'm like, don't worry. It's LaGuardia. Like it's really close. Don't worry. I'm chatting. Everyone's like, you got to go. You're going to miss your flight. Get in the car. Realize it's fully JFK. Like where did I even get the idea that it was LaGuardia? And I'm just telling everyone, like it takes 20 minutes for me to go to LaGuardia. Don't worry about it's not JFK. Look at my phone. Fully JFK. How long did you have to get there? I got there 30 minutes before boarding, but I really wanted McDonald's and there was a very long line, but in my head I said it's fast food. This is what they do. It's fast food. It was the hotspot. Like everyone just wanted their McDonald's. Yeah. And there was a huge line and I'm just, I waited till the very last minute for my McDonald's to make it even more dramatic. Ran with a quarter pounder. I wait, I was just going to say, since you like banned McDonald's on this last tour and like it almost ruined the world tour. What is your order these days? I just like a cheeseburger. No, no mustard. So McDonald's put mustard and it's like, this isn't a fucking charcuterie plate. Like give me a burger. Oh, see, I like the mustard. See, I like, I like mayo. If I'm really hungry, I add like six to 10 chicken nuggets. You have to have two different meats. Yeah. You know, yeah. Sorry, I want my protein. My protein. But um, yeah, I had a crazy sports illustrated weekend. All the girls are awesome. That's really nice. It was giving like Hannah joined a sorority and she didn't tell any of us. And she's just like, she said she was going to one school. She actually transferred one to a different one. She has all new friends. Look, I kept going around being like, I feel like I'm in a sorority and I feel like all the girls had been in a sorority and they're like, okay. And I'm like, I've never been in a sorority. Yeah. It was like you feeling female friendship. I literally like was the biggest girls girl this weekend. Yeah. But you know, you see it on Instagram and you're like, yeah, they're all like pretending to be friends or like they're all friends. But if I was part of the group, I don't know if I would mesh. It was so fun. Like, um, Alona Ma and I were pretending we were Alex Earl's bodyguards. We actually, we thought of an incredible business idea. So, you know, when people have bodyguards, it's like really obvious and also ruins the vibe. Like, I don't care how much fun you're having Coachella. Why is that like man who's clearly sweating because he's in a full tuxedo standing in the middle of Coachella. So I was like, we need undercover bodyguards that are just really strong girls. And when a guy tries to talk to the girl, you just go in front and you go, why are you talking to her? That's my friend. She wants to talk to you. And you just like cause the scene and the other girls innocent. She's like, doesn't even know. So I think we should just get a bunch of female rugby players to be bodyguards from now on. I think it's an extremely smart idea. Cause like, I feel like it's, I don't, what are the men going to do? Like fight a crazy girl who comes running up? No, let the rugby girls handle it. And there's nothing men just like more. I feel like when a girl takes their job. Yep. I was going to say just like talks, like a girl's friend like comes up and starts talking, they're like, no, you know, everyone has that friend that will not let anyone talk to anyone in the best way. Like she's like, I'll handle him. Yeah. I'll handle him. Excuse me. Nobody wants to hear. Nobody wants, do you notice it? Get out. And you're just like, every group has that one girl that you're like, Oh, you do it. Um, did you see the paparazzi picture of Kylie Jenner, Timothy Chalamet, Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi? No, I just saw the one of Jacob Elordi and Kendall Kendall chugging a full bottle of rosé on the beach. She's like, hold on. I didn't see that one. This was like all four of them in like an SUV, like leaving somewhere. And it was actually Steph texted it to me and like the Instagram or whatever. And she was like, I feel like you would just love this. And I love when A-list celebrities do A-list celebrity things with each other. And I love like an old school paparazzi pic, like just left the club. They're like a little tipsy. It just looked like fun. It looked like they were having wholesome fun. I love that for them. And I love a double date. And I wish I could hear the text afterwards of like what they thought of each other's man's, did the man's get along? Do you think they're like, oh my God, we used to date like rappers and athletes. And now we're conquering the arts, the artists, men, the artists. I wonder if like Timothy and Jacob Elordi are competitive with each other. Yeah. Like, do you think that there's like a underlying, like I would see that I would think that Timothy thinks that he's more of a serious actor. Yeah. But I also feel like boys are so dumb. Like boys are just like, they probably just like that they're both boys. Society doesn't make them compete against each other. They can actually both win a bunch of awards. There's enough room for everyone. Where if they both were dating girl actresses, it would be like, who's my successful? I mean, remember the Jonas Brothers? They literally took apart all the women in that group. Yeah. Oh my God. Remember when Joe Jonas was married to Sophie Turner, that feels like a real fever dream. There's a new thing that Kesha announced called Geosexual. Are you familiar with this? I'm not. It's when you only have sex in certain countries. So she says she only has sex when she's in Italy. Obsessed. Obsessed. It's like, it's like only eating bread and she only has sex. The most iconic thing I've ever heard. I know. I know. I feel like I want to be that, but it's like my, my place is my bed. Wait, I love that so much for her. Was she being serious? I don't know. It was just a quote, but I feel like that's so something you do in your 30s. You're like, at this point. 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And I tried it on and I said, I look like an interesting ant. Yeah, it's like a wealthy ant coming in between her European vacations. And I just felt like I do think the weekend there was a lot of range. I wanted each outfit to be like a different personality. Yeah, you I think you gave it. You gave a different vibe. And that's important because then you have to switch up your hair. And we all know how stressed you get about switching up your hair. I think I know what your favorite outfit was. What was that? Do you want to say it? My favorite was the Sunday turquoise set or like light blue set. Yeah, I love that. I thought your favorite was going to be the black sheer because I really like that too. My thing is the black sheer, like a black dress. I've seen it a million times. I loved it. I loved it, but it's I want I want I like surprising people. I want to come up with new shit. The problem with that's the suit, the set, suit set tight. And you ripped it. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Because right when I DM you and I said, this is my favorite outfit. I then naturally went to the next slide and it was you having a sweatshirt to hide around your waist that you ripped the skirt. The good news is that she was good all day. The problem with like SUV cars is that you have to like step up into them. And when I first wanted to step in it, I was in the very beginning of the day. I was like, oh, I could totally rip the back of it. And at the end of the day, you know, when you're just done, you're like, I'm ready. I got to go get my flight in LaGuardia. Apparently I very quickly jumped in the open and just felt the whole backs. I go, and thankfully, sports illustrator gave me a free sweatshirt. And that's one way to get my. So I wrapped it around and it was good. But yeah, that was that was unfortunate, but it was by the seam. It could easily be fixed. I went to a wedding this weekend. How was it? It was nice. I look. It's not me if I don't have one problem or another. Like something is going to be itching me, irritating me, squeezing me. Like I'm going to have an issue and. Look, first of all, look, me knowing I'm going to a wedding and like going to like a social event that's like a long period of time. I'm going to pop a beta because I just am. Like, you know what? There's no shame in it. Like I'm just I'm going to pop a beta. So like I pop one. I feel fine. Great. Get to the wedding. I'm like, you know what? I'm having like a nice time at this wedding. Also, this wedding was so Italian in so many subtle ways that I felt just like comfortable. So I'm like feeling myself. I really liked my dress. I'm like, I'm having a good time. They're cocktail. Oh, and melon cocktail. Albert was phenomenal. I'm just like really I'm like, I'm going to have a couple cocktails. Not just playing. They had a Frank Sinatra in person. They have a Frank Sinatra in person. And if the Italians aren't consistent, it was just like good vibes. We had a good table like everyone's having a good time. Cash and envelopes. So many cash and envelopes. I literally was like, I didn't even know there was cash anymore. I was like, I've only seen this in movies, guys. Like I've never seen this before. Cookie table. Tremendous to the ceiling. So like halfway through the wedding, I'm like, my dress is like tight. Like I knew it was like tight and the top was like corseted. OK, I was wearing this like black, Elsa, like midi dress. And the top was like very structured. And then it like cinched at my waist, like corset. And then it went like structured down. But like when I was trying it on and getting it fitted, like it was fine. In the morning. So I'm sitting there for a couple hours. I'm three raviolis deep. And I. And this was Sage and butter, baby. This was heavy. The. The ricotta was recottaing. And I'm like, whoa, my stomach is like really hurting. I really like I do. And I said to Joe, I was like, look, this is like your friends. And like I'm down to have a fun time. Like we can go home whenever you want. And he was like, totally like whatever. So it's like 1130 and I'm like, I got to get the fuck out. You're a completely different person by the end of the party than the beginning of the party. I'm like, I physically am counting my breaths because I'm losing air. Do you ever just sit in the bathroom stall? I do that at weddings. Well, I got to the point where I was like, unzip my dress, like just unzip my dress. I don't care. Like so I unzip my dress and then I looked at him and I said, I actually have to go home. So actually call the car now and we left at midnight and I couldn't have been more happy to take. I took the dress truly off in the car. I couldn't do it. I was thinking about the bathroom at weddings. If you just sit in the bathroom, stall at weddings. That's where all the gossip is happening. Like everyone has an opinion. Everyone's talking shit about someone in the family. It's crazy. Totally. That's the podcast I want to listen to. No, I didn't sit in there a long time, but I did sit there for a second and contemplate like, what if I went out into the parking lot? Do you think I would? At one point I looked at Joe and I was like, I might just go sit in the car. Well, when you're not, when you're just a friend of the wedding, you're like, totally, nobody's gonna know. Yeah, I'm like, they're having a full reunion of like their second grade best friend and I'm like, I'm a side character here. No one would know if I slipped out. 100%. There's also a video of a girl doing the worm that everyone send me to me at a wedding where like, you know, the brides made and groom brides groom, whatever. Made of honor. Just the brides, just the bridesmen bridesmaids bridesmaids. And who's the what's the male version groomsmen groomsmen. We got bridesmen. But we got there. Yeah. There's a brides girls and the brides boys and they're walking in and they're do a little dance and then one girl, she turns and she goes to the worm. And I said, a woman by my own heart. As she does the worm, the back of her dress pops, like literally. Were they wearing short dresses? No, but it was like, you know, the back of the dress has like a slit. So she starts doing the worm. The slit goes all the way up. She's fully wearing a thong and she's facing the entire wedding. And when she starts doing it, it pops and everyone exclaims, they all go, well, and she probably in her head is like, I'm killing it. Oh, I'm going viral. But I guess. No, how does that come across my desk? Everyone's like, she's a hero. Like she's she's amazing. So shout out to she's our woman of some of the week. Yeah, honestly, I give credit to anyone who in their head was like, yeah, I'm going to stop and do the worm right now because the confidence they I would literally I would choke. And I've done it in many address. You've done it on national television. You've done it up. You've done it at Radio City Music Hall. The only difference is I don't wear thongs. So I have flashed the audience many a time. You're so sick of it. You're like, not again, but they just see some hands under where it's nothing too exciting. Yeah, nothing too exciting. Actually, you're also women of STEM of the week, runner up twice this week because Paige sent me her first ever message in Invisible, Inc. I thought there was a murder. I was like, this has never happened before. I don't even respond to it. I go, who taught you how to do that? Well, do you want to know? I don't send you text messages with Invisible, Inc. Because you're the only person that like and I'm saying it with my chest and like, let them see it. Like, who's Hannah going to tell? I'm like, who's Hannah going to tell? I mean, she's no other friends that she's talking to this about. But you were at Sports Illustrated Weekend and I like I'm I'm trying to be a girl's girl. And so like, I'm not going to just like give the gossip to some person that I don't know that could be looking over my shoulder. Right. Right. Well, Lil, did you know I had no idea where my phone was? So no one's going to see it. Right. My point exactly. Like the last thing I need is like Paige Disarbo's name popping up. And it's just like the most scathing text. But there's such a freedom of not having your phone and it not even being your fault. You're like, that was the universe. They don't want me to have it. But I when people text me now, you can't see what they're saying. It just says new message. Oh, right. No, I mean, I have that. Yeah. No, I have that too. That's crazy. That's crazy. Harry Styles is new tour. He's wearing a tie. Apparently no one can have an original thought anymore. Now you see just like average businessmen walking down the street. OK, guys, give a girl credit. Give me credit. It's like kind of performative at this point. People are mad at his tour because there's like part of the setup because they do these crazy setups. It has like a curve and some VIP people couldn't see anything because of like the way they designed the tour floor. So clearly there wasn't a woman's touch involved. Is he like our like rock star? You think of like our generation? I think he's he's like a heartthrob. I wouldn't say rock star. Yeah. Do we have any rock stars? I don't know. But it's so funny because anytime I'm around anyone truly and I accept you and I say like, oh, I don't really get the Harry Styles. Like I think he's cute and I think like a lot of his songs are very catchy. But for me, I don't get the heartthrob. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like he's more like, oh, that's a guy friend in my group. A hundred percent. That's the vibe he gives to me. Like he'd be a great time to like go out with and hang out with. We were too old for one direction. Yeah, maybe that's it. Especially with the topic I'm about to talk about next. Drop it. What are we doing with our gray hairs? Because this is a no, like this is a serious question. I have some girlfriends that dye their hair because they're like my grays. And it's easy. My blond, I don't even ask them because they're dying all the time. They don't even have to deal with it. That's sound. They've been dying their hair, not like I was like, we want they're dying their hair all the time. So they don't really. Or if they do, I don't think you could see it against the blonde. Right. And also like they want to be that color. They're like, they get crazy sometimes. The blonde community just catching strays every podcast. No, the blondes have a tough go of it because they get this thing in their head. They they get manipulated by their own blondness. And they're like, I'm not blonde enough. And then like, if you have a blonde friend and she's starting into the transition to Brunette, you have to be you have to be there for them. My favorite thing to do with blondes is when they go from platinum to like just normal blonde. I go, oh my God, you look so good, Brunette. And then they spiral. And people think you're nicer than me. I know the sensitivity you have to have with a blonde who's transitioning. It's really, you know, you've got to watch them. They'll burn your house down if they're transitioning and someone says something. Do you know what people don't talk about, though? Brunettes who get a couple of highlights and you don't realize looking back, you were fully blonde. I was blonde in my 20s and no one told me and it looked like shit. Yeah, you were pretty blonde at one point. Blond. Yeah. And I just went in asking for a highlight. Next thing you know, because the best thing that ever happened to you was ombre because you were like, no root situation. Yeah, I'll do it all day long. Ombre change my life. Ombre. Ombre. The girls loved ombre. So with the grays, there is a spray. OK. That you a dye spray. You get it your color. Yours is easy. Get black or whatever your thing is. Dark brown. What are you? Dark, dark brown. I'm espresso. OK, espresso. A espresso. I'm a trapezoan. So you get the color and then you spray it. You're like a rich mahogany. You are a rich mahogany. I'm a really rich library. You've never stepped foot in a library. So you can spray it if you're like going out. Like every day. OK, yeah, like a. But there was a time on Summer House when I was just by the pool, minding my own business for the first time ever. And Paige came up like a monkey mom and started yanking out all my gray hairs. Well, because you were my first friend to have grays. You had grays young. You must have been stressed. I went gray early. You had you went gray early. I went gray early. And I guess my dad went gray early. Also my husband's gray, so I'm like trying to catch up. But you just started picking it in my head. I was like, I was told that you shouldn't do this, but it's kind of fun right now. And you were so happy. Like you were having so much fun. That's like folklore. I don't know, but they do grow straight up. But I think that's because grays have different like texture. I'd like a real woman of STEM to clock in on this. Is that a myth that if you pluck a gray hair that five more grow? And if true, what would the what would the science be behind that? I have a girlfriend that like takes like scissors and like just cuts them down really low. I'm tweezing them right out. Yeah. Like I'm pulling, but I only ever get them on this side. But let me tell you something. The first time you do a ponytail and you randomly see like a bunch of grays on the side, yet you do have like an existential like I sat there and I was like, I don't have children. I don't even I don't have kids yet. I'm like, I don't have a pension plan. It's really jarring. It's and it's really sad. And then it's just another thing where men it's like distinguished and wise and it's women. It's like you're disgusting. Does his life got significantly better when he went gray? Well, it's just so annoying that like, you know what it is? It's that like I hate men that have hope. Like if they have hope, it's really not good. I don't want to ever give them any type of hope. And one thing that's really bad for the male species is there's always the possibility that they can get hot. I know because like they do get better with a look at Steve Carell. He's become a sex like he's a throgan. Is that crazy? Yeah, it is crazy. And speaking of when you said, what did you say? Ex-distential. What did you just say? Ex-distential. Ex-dist. You have. Exist. You actually have it. You have it. It's existential. Existential. You have it. Someone wanted me to message you and say, it's not all of the sudden. It's all of a sudden. All of the sudden. All of a sudden. Apparently you said all of the sudden. All of this. I'm just repeating. I'm just repeating on the middle, ma'am. OK, that actually makes sense. Were you saying all of the sudden? All of the sudden. I don't know if I was all of a sudden. You're rethinking every conversation you've ever had. OK, keep going. What were you saying? Oh, yeah. Anyway, with Grace, I. I will tweeze it. Also, if you cut it too much, then you have a lot of like little spiky. Right. And then I'm like, she's a crazy person. Yeah, yeah. But I think people really do believe that if you tweeze it, like five more will grow in its place. That's why I'm like, we need to debunk this. But I do believe like when I'm in a meeting, if I have a gray that's showing, I'm like, you better fucking listen to me because I've seen some shit. Well, I was the I feel unkempt. Whenever anyone says anything about my grades or I bring it up, I just go, sorry, I didn't really TV. You would do. Yeah, it was only three years. But yeah, it had a lasting impact. Oh, my God. Rural Britain, you've suffered too long. Your days of sluggish broadband are over. We're connecting rural homes to full fiber with thousands more joining every month. T minus five. The gigaverse is expanding before my very eyes. Giga clear. Faster broadband for rural Britain from only 19 pounds per month. We have lived off. These and sees apply. Eighteen months contract prices may rise during contract. Check availability at giga clear dot com. You asked me if I watched the documentary. Are you talking about the crash? Yes. It was intense. I've watched a lot of documentaries per your recommendation. And you watch some weird shit. Like you like culty weird sex, like just like weird murder stuff. This this documentary made me physically ill. Like I actually at one point was like, oh, I just got so nauseous from this. Because you know what it's like to be in a toxic relationship and how like quickly it could happen. That and also it was just it was so do like she was so she could do so many people because like what she was like cute and like it was just very scary. Not to be like I'm such a girl's girl. But like throughout it, I really was giving her. Same benefit of the end. Like the way she was crying. I was like, that's like a girl who like something accidentally happened. And like in court when they showed like her Instagram pictures, I was like, OK, what does this have to do with who she is as a person? Like so in my further research. Yeah. Apparently, Netflix did not show all the evidence because it did seem a little great to me. And then at the end of it was like, yeah, fuck her. And I'm like, but it did seem a little confusing. Apparently, on Hulu, there's another documentary called Mean Girl Murders where they cover the case and there's more evidence. Now, fast forward if you don't want to know what happened, but I'm going to give you all the tea. This girl is dating this guy, Dom, great name. And they're in this friend group in high school. They're smoking weed, whatever. She gets into a car accident. And the two boys, she's with him, the car die, and she's critically injured. Like it's crazy she survived that. Insane. That was the one of the number one reasons I was like, well, she's not. Going to do something on purpose. She's in the car. She there's no way you would think, oh, I'll survive this. Or it was one of those like suicide missions. Like I'd rather us all go than you leave me. Mm hmm. So apparently she had done like a test drive the previous days, like a couple of times in that area and that area is nowhere near where she lives. So that's what the Hulu documentary has shown. That's what people are saying online that makes it like very clear that like maybe something was premeditated. So also in these small towns, I do feel like, you know, where every turn is like, don't you like know where you're going? If you drive, right? Yeah. So she apparently did a hundred miles per hour straight into a building. And at the very last five seconds, it shows that the neutral and drive was going back and forth and that they turned the the steering wheel and the guys were on top of each other. That could have been he got thrown or it could have been both the guys were fighting her like trying to get her off the. Yeah. But the dark thing about it all is that like she wasn't trying to live if that was on purpose, like she wanted them all to go. Right. That's why it's so. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense. Like there's something missing. Her story from the very beginning is I have no idea what happened. I've no idea what happened. And then her mom was like, she has pots. That is so not true. That I feel like was just my only thing that I like I'm thinking watching it is, you know, when someone because they say they left at five a.m. You know, when someone wakes you up in the morning and you're like pissed off, like, why are you making waking me up? So every little thing you're just like, I'm annoyed. I feel like he said something or someone texted him. And it was like, if you don't tell me right now or you don't if you don't do this right now, like all kill all of us. And that's and that's it. And then when it was to buy the time it was too late, she couldn't. I mean, and I tried to think like maybe it was an accident. Like there was no one on the road and she's like, let's go 100. And then it was like, oh, shit. This there's a building. Yeah, I don't know. But like it's some suburban kid. Yeah, it was a really crazy story. Really crazy. And she's currently in jail. And but the way the documentary was done was weird. Here's the other thing, like not that I'm a parent, but in what fucking world are you letting your daughter move in with her boyfriend at 17 years old? Like she had zero supervision. She had like her parents knew she was smoking weed at such a young age. Like, yeah, she's only going to progress to doing more drugs. She had too much freedom. They didn't explain the personality. She didn't have the personality to have this much freedom as a child. They didn't explain things and they were like, yeah, Dom has a lot of money. No one explained how that happened. There was a text that said like I want to buy drugs from Dom. So I'm assuming that he was like a big deal drug dealer in the area. He probably like sold weed. Yeah, but he was able to get his own house and she lived in it with him. Then the mom like basically saying she didn't really know the other kid. So she didn't care to like say something. Didn't you write something down when you were going to know you were going to speak in court? The whole thing was crazy. It's called the crash. It's on Netflix. Let us know what you guys think. Something is a riot. And it's because she gave them no information. So like there was nothing to work with. And then she had her friend on just being. I was just going to say people were really mad at the friend because she wouldn't talk to the police and she wouldn't. But she would talk to Netflix. Yeah. That's another reason which made me think she was guilty. Yeah. Because if you are guilty, your friend isn't talking to the police. Do you know what I mean? Also, her friend has like a TikTok following. So she was like, I was doing really well on TikTok. Yeah. Thank you for this interview. We were best friends and she was perfect. But it is a weird like mean girl situation where one girl was like, she always defended me and then another girl was like, she told me to kill myself. When they're trying to get like what she was like as a person. And then she said that there was a car ride. He claimed that she was threatening to kill them, each other in the car. Actually, no one should be driving. No one. Don't drive. I didn't get my license. But yeah, this is why Hannah didn't have her license. My mom wouldn't let me leave the house and we're all better for it. Truly. No, they're just huge weapons. Get a bicycle. I'm doing this new thing where I cook once a week. And I'm really proud of myself. Like I have had a transformational year. I've read a book. I've cooked dinner and like a hundred pages into strangers. Oh, good. I need to get back into it. I like took a little break. Everyone's into yesteryear. Oh my God, I can't keep up. I literally just anyone have like another hobby. Booktog is fucking crazy. Also, I'm like, how fast do you guys read? No, these bitches are reading. I'm fast. How are they reading so quickly? Well, I order yesteryear. It's like sitting there and Des is just like wakes up at six a.m. in the morning, nothing to do for four hours before I wake up. So we just grabbed the book and brought to a coffee shop. I was basically finished it. And he's like, what's his book about? He just reads things that are in front of him. He'll read a pamphlet. He doesn't care. Seriously, how long does it take you to get through one page of a book? When I'm in the zone, I can fly. But like when I hit a like, you know, when you like can't get past a certain paragraph, like how many minutes is it taking you to read 50 pages? I don't know. I need to know. I need to know what the rate of readers is. So you're saying like what's considered a fast reader and how fast are you actually going? And I need the spectrum, ladies. And what's a slow reader? Yeah, you should read next to someone. No. And no. Are you kidding me? You basically just asked me to go up to the board, show my work. OK, let's take a breath. We're not in school and you can take as long as you need to get through that paragraph. If you have a sound out the words, you do it. No, but you know what you like can't get through a paragraph sometimes? Like, yeah, something about it is just like. Or you like, catch yourself like, oh, I was just thinking about something else. I have. Yeah. Oh. I have another thing we all have to listen to. But the podcast. I actually met them at I Heart. I think the girl is actually a gigler, which makes it that much more fun. It's called Love Trapped. Have you heard of this? It's about Clayton from The Bachelor. And he gets involved after. Oh, wait, really crazy. OK, he he was the best. The worst experience on the Bachelor, like everyone hates him. He goes, fuck this, he moves to Arizona to become a real estate agent. Within a couple of days, he gets a LinkedIn message from someone with no picture and this girl goes on to ruin his life. And all I'll say is he ends up hooking up with her. She gives him two blowjobs and then she ends up claiming that it got her pregnant and then they go, it becomes a huge diabolical situation. I'm only two episodes in, but it's like it's crazy pants. It's like a baby reindeer. Yes, she's blowing up his phone emails. He's blocking her. She's threatening to get his real estate license revoked. She's saying, I'll get an abortion if you date me for a week. He's like, are you pregnant? She's like, you can't come to the doctor's office. I'll say you're threatening me. Like really scary stuff. And now people are scary. People are scary. Arizona. Shout out to Arizona. Beautiful cacti. Yeah. Well, you want to know what it's so hot there. I'd be hotheaded, too. Have you been God? It's like a fucking air conditioner. Oh, my God. Do you remember when we went to Arizona for a show and we were so tired and we stayed at the W and we didn't realize it was like Sunday, fun day and we walked in and it was just like playing huge club music. And I was like, and I was like, I'm so sorry. And you were going to kill me. Arizona was the first place ever that I was driving through. And I was like, they have no front lawns. No one has a front lawn. They have sand. Yeah. I like didn't realize that was real. Like they have rocks. Yeah. Yeah. And they have little, little lizards. People love Arizona. I love Arizona. I love the vibe. I love the Mexican food. It seems very chill. Yeah, for sure. So I recommend people listen to that. We have a lot on the docket. We have a lot of homework for the girls. Yeah. And here, how are you? What are you up to this week? What am I up to this week? Just some like Daphne things. Should I like look at my sketch? I kind of have a slow week, but I will be hanging out with my mom later again. You know, I have a lot of weddings. Really? A lot of weddings coming up. But that's so embarrassing. I have no weddings. Because all it does is friends are married and my friends are single. OK. My friends aren't married. No. Oh, it's a holiday weekend. Do you know, like, oh, I forgot. Is there even a weekend as an adult? Like it's just a weekend to do list. It's not like it's relaxing. It's just the things you have to do on the weekend. Like your laundry and like, you know what, though? I talk so much shit, but there's nothing I love more than a Sunday reset day. It's my favorite thing in the world. I know, you get giddy. I get giddy to fluff up my bed and like light my candles in my room, do all my laundry. Like I like to set the mood Sunday night in my bedroom at like seven o'clock, even though I'm not coming in till nine. I like to marinate in like. And Daphne's already laying there like, let's go, mama. Literally, it's like central. There's smelling oils, like there's massage things happening. Like it's really sensual. I love that for you. I never know what day it is, but this week my trailer is dropping. I'm actually not sure which day I'm nervous. I'm excited. OK, let us know if you can tell what clip is in fact the good hair clip. It's because it's really important. I get so excited to drop stuff for gigglers. And then it's it's just like, I don't know, it's it's a big deal. It's my body. It's finally out. So keep an eye out for that. I got my mango pineapple, Duncan refresher today with green tea. Let's concentrate. I got the berry assai and this time I got green tea instead of sparkling, which I think is why I sucked it down so fast. Oh, it was easier because it wasn't sparkling. It was very Thursday. Mm hmm. Well, thank you, Duncan, for sponsoring the episode. We love you guys. Thanks for giggling and we'll talk to you later.