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If you saw the Blue Square spot during the big game, it's worth thinking about. And if you want to show support, sharing the Blue Square is one small way to do that. What's up everyone? I'm Ago Vodem. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspir. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hanging there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to ThanksDad on the iHeartRadio App, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. We got the Grits and Ages podcast, Beyonce, Kyle, and Big Ice Cup Cat. We got Club 520 with Jeff Teague in the gang. Don't call me white girl. Mona will be there. Keep it positive, sweetie, with Krystal Renee. We got Reality with the King with Carlos King. And yes, Drink Chance will be in the building. Plus you know we're going to have a lot of guests, so you need to join us. And we got the Black Effect Marketplace to pitch your podcast and everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival. Tickets are on sale right now. Go get yours at blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. Don't play yourself. Okay, pull up. All right, it's mojo in the morning. We got to get real now with the topic. This is, you know, we've had all fun and games and goofiness and all this stuff on the show. Sometimes we got to get real. Anna's got a very real topic to bring up right now. And Anna, you've not been on the show for long. It hasn't even been a year that you've been on the show. Correct. You know, I've experienced a little bit of drama because of the show. I have to be careful with this topic, but there is somebody very close to me. I'll even say this. A family member of mine has expressed to me that they do not want to be a part of any storyline on the radio. No names of them mentioned. Nothing to do with them on the radio, which I understand. They expressed expressed this to me last week and we had a little bit of a disagreement. I totally understand where this person is coming from. But to me, this is exactly what happened with my tick tock. There was like no support of it at first from this person. And honestly, most of the people in my life, there was no support. Not mentioned, don't show, don't do this. But now that they're seeing the success, they're circling back around, want to be a part of it. Oh, put me in a video. Oh, take me here with you. Oh, do this with me. And in my mind, I'm thinking, this is not cool. You can't just choose when to be in and out of my life. This is my job. This is my life. I talk on the radio every day. You're a huge part of it. And I also don't think that I've ever said anything poor about this person. And a matter of fact, I text them every time before I speak about them. I'm like, Hey, just so you know, we're doing a topic. Da, da, da, da, da. They're like, Yeah, talk about it on air. All of this to say, this happened about a week ago. We haven't spoken. And yesterday, Kevin was asking me if I've talked to them. I said no. And he was encouraging me to reach out to them. Personally, I'm the I we could go months without talking to each other. This happens frequently in our relationship. And that's sort of what I was going to do. But Kevin is of the belief that I should extend an olive branch. And I don't think he's wrong. But I do think it's too soon for me to speak to that. I did all this happen a week ago. Okay. So it's been a week. But I like, I haven't even talked to my therapist about this. I don't even fully understand like, I mean, I kind of know how I'm feeling, but my therapist will help me understand why and if it's valid and how I could express that to her and things of that nature. But yeah. Kevin, what do you mean by an olive branch? What do you think she should do? I don't remember the full conversation, but I think some of it revolved around me asking, is this someone that you want to have a conversation with? Do you want to continue a relationship? And I believe you said yes. So with that being said, I think the track record of her and this person is this. We don't talk for however long it is. And then something happens where we come back. And I think if you want to have a relationship with the person, maybe now is the opportunity to do something different. Yeah. And maybe the difference is, I didn't say like have this whole apology tour, but just, hey, just thought about you, just checking in and see how you are. And like, that's it. Yeah. I feel like as I get older, I've learned, because I've been in this situation a million times over Anna. I'm currently in this situation with somebody who's a part of my life too, asking me not to talk about them on the air. And but it's so much easier, especially if like Kev said, you want to keep a good relationship with its person to just like put everything out on the table all the time. And it sounds like you do have some things to say. So, you know, yeah, which I've said a little bit. And now they've been distant with me too, because I pushed back on them after they laid into me. I sort of laid into them. There's, there's two, there's two things that go ahead with your session. No, it's hard because we all like my, I get instantly defensive when somebody says that to me. I'm like, but this is my job. You are part of my life and therefore a part of who I am, my identity, but also we're the ones with a microphone controlling the narrative and they're not. And it really is unfair. So as much as we want to talk about, you want to talk about this person, I really do. I try to put myself in their shoes. I do understand them saying like, Hey, for right now, this is the healthiest thing for me. Yeah. And I want to be clear. I get it. Like one thing this person said to me is this is not the life that I chose. And I'm like, totally understand that. But the way that they approached the situation, they made me fail as though I was purposely putting them into a bad situation, right? Negative light. Right. Like I was a bad person for them to do. And I know who you're talking about. And you'd have never done that. Yeah. Chelsea always has said to me, and I didn't hear it a lot early on. And honestly, I didn't hear it earlier this week with the topic that we, that I brought up, but she said, you guys signed up for this. We didn't. Meaning anybody else that's were the we, our family, our, you know, friends, whatever the deal is. And I, it does strike a chord. It's right. It's true. You don't have, they don't have a microphone. They don't have the ability to say it. I do think that there's a couple of things here with this. And I was obviously gone. So I did not know what was going on. I think that in fairness, if the last time that you talked about them was like the, this is the straw that broke the camel's back, or maybe it was the big issue. If you didn't say to them, Hey, I want to bring this up on the air and you brought something up, you blindsided them. And I think sometimes we got to be really careful with all our family or friends to blindside them with, Hey, we're going to talk about this. Yeah. And I think it's not to tell people because I like to have their moment of what the hell and then hope they call up. It's not always honestly good to do to your friendships. And honestly, it doesn't affect, I don't think the actual radio aspect of it. And I'd rather keep my friendship than keep the radio aspect of it or family. So I think, and I don't know your situation. So did, did you forewarn them with the topic? And they told me it was fine. They were on board with it. And what were they upset about? In other words, they said that that is not the direction that they thought the topic was going to be. So they were upset about the direction. Maybe I was the one that directed it or no, all of us. Okay. So with that said, to their, to their family, this is my olive branch to you. You know what? She's just learning and she's just figuring this out. And I know you've done TikTok, TikTok's a little different. It's an edited up nice little Q piece and stuff like that. This one is full on, you're having lengthy conversations. People are calling in. You never know what people are going to say. They go to work, somebody says something to them and ends up getting worse because of people heard it and maybe they heard it and then they go listen to the podcast. They're like, oh, son of a bitch, she brought this up. I'm never talking to you again. You know, that's kind of like the stuff that goes on. Currently. Right. Exactly. We all have no friends. This job sucks. We should do a podcast. Let's just do podcasts where we don't, you know, whatever. But here's, but here's the second part of this deal on the olive branch thing. I know who, cause Lydia told me what was going on. I am a key and I've said this to you numerous times with your, you know, friends and family. I think as I've gotten older, time gets shorter and there were days where I didn't care if I talked to a person ever again. But as I get older and I realized that life is precious and things happen, I think that you need to have a waiting period for a little bit to get with them, calm down. But when it's somebody that you love and you will, would put your life on the line for, I think that you should have that conversation. What I'm struggling with is a lot of, I keep getting this comment from so many people and it bothers me a lot. We just want to be with Anna and I'm like, okay, this is me though. This is my life. This is what I'm passionate about. This is my career, my job. They're like, we just want to be with you, not the Tik Tok, Anna, not the radio, Anna, we just want to be with you. Well, Anna is radio, Anna is Tik Tok. It's all one person and that's bothering me and you don't get to choose when you can be a part of it and when not. Why do they think that you're different? I don't know. I don't know. You should ask them that. I, listen, I get Chelsea sometimes that will say to me, I want to be with Tom, not Mojo. So I get that. It's so funny how our families, because my sister will be like, okay, that was the radio version of the story. Now tell me the real Shannon version. I think their thing is that I'm always recording. My life is content. That's how I pay my bills and they don't want the cameras around all the time. Josh, what's up, Josh? Hi. So Anna, I was just thinking, I mean, you should still be able to speak on who you want, who's involved in your life and all the matters in your life. Just don't name drop them. Make up a fake name for them. Yeah. If you're not name dropping them, they have nothing to get upset about because you're not putting them out there. Josh, I've done that where I've done the, a friend of mine. It still hurts just as much as, you know, Todd, you know, people who know that person can gather enough details to know that you're talking about that person. But you're in a group. Josh, can I first off, by the way, this, Carolyn who texts us a lot says, you guys shouldn't even be working this out on the air. Carolyn, I think you're wrong on that because this is Anna's therapy of being able to do it. I really do think sometimes bringing stuff up on the air is like, because the person who's going on, they're not going to work today and somebody's saying to them, they might, somebody might say to them, Hey, was that about you this morning? And you know what, in all fairness, that's not Anna's fault that they're saying that because you could go to work and tell your coworker, yeah, you know, my cousin Anna is an A-hole. And then now they know who Anna is because of the radio. So it goes both ways. So I do think that it's tough. This is a really tough job in many cases because we have such an ability to be able to grab listeners because of the authentic conversations that we have. And if we weren't this way, I don't think people would give a crap about us. You know what I mean? We talked about that. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. And I think that's a big part of the show. Josh I'm dealing with a rebrand of my own life. And I have really supported people around me, but then I also have to like, you know, four or five that are like, Ooh, you're being too much. Oh, you're being too loud. You're being, go, let's go fly blast. Like, get away from me. I don't want to be around you. And I like, I used to say it like, especially like, Oh, like maybe, you know, like maybe it means change or not. Like for you to want to keep me in a place that I don't belong anymore, it's vastly horrific. And like, here, well, I don't want to be around you. So like that they're not for you. And I hate like, I'm sorry, but like that's not somebody that supports you. Go find somebody who is and be around the people are. And like, again, don't let them keep you in the box. You know, yeah. Well, it's tough. And it's family. Yeah. And it's their life that you're sharing. And they don't want it. With the whole rebrand thing, I think family is extremely tough because they quote unquote know the real you because they see how you grow up. They know who you are from a character perspective. But when you go through that cocoon phase, so to speak, like they know you as a caterpillar. Yeah. When you go in that cocoon and if you move away, if you spend time away from them and you start to figure out who you are for yourself, not who you were quote unquote raised to become. And you actually start choosing who you are. That butterfly pops out and it doesn't look as familiar to them as what they thought you would look like, which is exactly what I think is happening. Yeah. And they can't always understand. It's harder for them to understand the butterfly when they've only known the caterpillar. Megan wants to make a comment. These are so crazy good. Megan wants to make a comment to Anna before we lose time. Go ahead, Megan. Hi, good morning. I just want to mention, Kevin, that was a beautiful like example. I'm going to actually use that from now on. So thank you. Um, but I just wanted to say to Anna, um, that keep doing what you're doing. Um, I'm proud of you and I'm just a stranger. Um, and I want to let you know that the people that want to see you do well, um, it's not gonna affect them. Um, at all. And the people that are, you know, true friends and everything, they'll be there at the end, you know, when you are the magnificent butterfly. Thank you so much. She tried to bring it back to me. I'm actually going to defend this person though. I don't think this person wants to not see you do well by any means. So I don't think it's, it's that I don't think so either. It's the way that it was communicated that bother me. I want to tell you that I, um, and I don't think you understand this sometimes. I've done this for a long time and brought people in on the show. And when I've asked people to bring their content to the show and their personal to the show, they have been so fearful of doing it because of the duty that you just stepped into with this family member. I don't want to ever people to lose their family or friends. We've had past members that have left the show that wouldn't even talk one second about their personal life to like you have. Thank you. You know, you always have something authentic. They've got great relationships with their family members. They're just way better people. But they don't have good relationships with us. But with that said, I go on cocoon fly. You know what? It sucks to be bored. But when I get on my phone and play real casino games on spinquest.com, the time flies by that two hour wait at the DMV seems like 10 minutes. Play your favorite spots live blackjack live prepped with a live dealer. New players, $30 coin packs are on sale for 10 bucks. Play spinquest.com and you'll never be bored again. Spinquest is a free to play social casino. Boyd were prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. This is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. After the big game, like most people, I kept thinking about the commercials and there was one that stayed with me. It was from the Blue Square Alliance Against Hate and it wasn't loud or flashy. It showed a Jewish kid being targeted at school and another student who chose not to ignore it as someone who is Jewish. That moment felt very real to me, not dramatic, just familiar. And what struck me was how clearly it showed that hate doesn't always announce itself. But the impact is still huge. If you saw the Blue Square spot during the big game, it's worth thinking about. And if you want to show support, sharing the Blue Square is one small way to do that. What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Vodem. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's OK to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspirer. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hanging there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to ThanksDad on the I Heart Radio App, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Crypto Renee, we got reality with the King with Carlos King. And yes, drink chance will be in the building. Plus, you know, we're going to have a lot of guests. So you need to join us. And we got the Black Effect Marketplace to pitch your podcast and everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival. Tickets are on sale right now. Go get yours at blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. Don't play yourself, OK? Pull up.
