The Resetter Podcast with Dr. Mindy

Master Your Eating Window: The Foundational Five with Dr. Mindy Pelz

59 min
Nov 10, 20257 months ago
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Summary

Dr. Mindy Pelz introduces the foundational principles for mastering the eating window from her book 'Eat Like a Girl,' focusing on blood sugar management, nature-based foods, microbiome health, protein prioritization, and healthy fats. She also outlines three core principles for hormone-supporting meals: eating for hormone production, hormone breakdown, and hormone detoxification.

Insights
  • Blood sugar stability, not calorie counting, is the primary driver of sustainable weight management and metabolic health for women
  • Food diversity and microbiome health directly influence cravings and food preferences, making bacterial composition a key lever for behavior change
  • Women's hormonal cycles require rhythmic eating patterns that alternate between lower-carb (estrogen-supporting) and higher-carb (progesterone-supporting) phases
  • Hormone management extends beyond production to include breakdown and detoxification; poor detoxification leads to estrogen dominance and fat storage
  • Sustainable nutrition requires principles-based eating rather than macro counting to maintain long-term adherence and metabolic flexibility
Trends
Shift from calorie-counting to blood sugar monitoring as primary health metric using CGM technologyGrowing recognition of microbiome-driven food cravings and behavioral change in nutrition scienceIncreased focus on cyclical eating patterns aligned with female hormonal phases rather than one-size-fits-all approachesMovement away from ultra-processed foods toward nutrient-dense, nature-based whole foods for hormone healthIntegration of functional nutrition principles (liver support, gut healing, detoxification) into mainstream wellnessEmphasis on food as medicine and bioavailable nutrition over supplement-based interventionsRising interest in ancestral and diverse protein sources (organ meats, grass-fed beef, plant-based alternatives) for amino acid diversityAdoption of continuous glucose monitoring (CGM) by health-conscious consumers for real-time nutritional feedbackReframing of dietary fat from enemy to essential nutrient, with focus on omega-3s and polyphenol-rich sourcesCommunity-based learning models replacing isolated social media nutrition advice for sustainable behavior change
Topics
Blood Sugar Management and Metabolic HealthFemale Hormonal Cycles and Cyclical EatingMicrobiome Health and Bacterial DiversityEstrogen and Progesterone Nutritional SupportProtein Diversity and Amino Acid ProfilesFiber and Prebiotic/Probiotic FoodsLiver Detoxification and Hormone MetabolismUltra-Processed Foods vs. Nature-Based NutritionOmega-3 Fatty Acids and Healthy Fat SourcesContinuous Glucose Monitoring (CGM) TechnologyInsulin Resistance and Metabolic Set PointCandida and Sugar AddictionKetobiotic and Hormone Feasting Eating StylesNutrient Density and Food DiversityPerimenopause and Menopausal Nutrition
Companies
Paleo Valley
Dr. Pelz recommends Paleo Valley beef sticks as a convenient protein source for maintaining protein intake throughout...
People
Dr. Jason Fung
Referenced for his book 'The Obesity Code' which reframed weight loss as a hormonal issue rather than a calorie issue.
Stephen Bartlett
Dr. Pelz conducted podcast interviews with him on 'The Diary, The CEO' discussing calorie counting and metabolic scie...
Dr. Kate Shanahan
Featured in podcast episode discussing the impact of toxic fats on microbiome health and GLP-1 regulation.
Jessie Inchauspe
Referenced as 'The Glucose Goddess' for bringing blood sugar management education to mainstream audiences.
Chef Leslie
Plant-based celebrity chef who collaborated on recipe development for 'Eat Like a Girl' cookbook.
Stacy Sims
Menopausal athlete featured for demonstrating plant-based protein adequacy for muscle building and athletic performance.
Todd
Case study of a young man who lost 175 pounds by applying fasting and microbiome-focused eating principles.
Quotes
"You are not alone. So many of us experience this as we move into our postmenopausal years. So for starters, you're not broken."
Dr. Mindy PelzOpening
"Blood sugar matters. Calories don't."
Dr. Mindy PelzFoundational Principle 1
"Your bacteria in your gut tell your taste buds what to crave."
Dr. Mindy PelzFoundational Principle 3
"You don't need motivation to stay healthy. You need momentum."
Dr. Mindy PelzProtein Discussion
"When you gain weight, your body is saying to you: you have been giving me too much of something I don't know what to do with."
Dr. Mindy PelzFat Discussion
"Food is medicine. Let's look at it through that lens so we can dip into the fasting state and allow our body to heal itself."
Dr. Mindy PelzClosing
Full Transcript
If you are somewhere in your 40s, 50s, 60s are beyond, and you felt like your body is changing, your brain is foggy, your moods are all over the place. Here's what I want you to know. You are not alone. So many of us experience this as we move into our postmenopausal years. So for starters, you're not broken. Just keep in mind that because you're going through a transformation and like any phenomenal transformation, it's really important to have a guide, not guesswork. So this is why I created what I call my reset academy. It's a really cool group of online women from all over the world where we come together to learn how to fast for hormones, how to eat for our brain, how to understand the behavioral changes that are going on with us, and to really give women an opportunity to feel at home in both their bodies and their brains again. In the reset academy, we do many live calls, we do lots of challenges together, we have monthly programs, and you have an incredible community that is built not only from me and my team of coaches, but from women who have been in the academy for years that have read my books, done my videos, listened to my podcast, and are working on making themselves the best version they can possibly be. So if you're looking for that community support, if you're wanting to lean into more knowledge, get off of the socials and into a really cool live community, come join me inside my reset academy. You can go to resetacademy.dotdoctormidipels.com and find all the ways you can sign up there. I will tell you my absolute favorite thing we do in this community are the Saturday morning coffee chats where two Saturdays a month you will find me not only working out with you all, but leading you through whatever is burning on my heart and opening up community discussion around how as women we can use our metapuzzle experience to come together and how we can use it to not only better ourselves, but better everyone around us. So excited to see you inside my reset academy. Okay, welcome to another solo episode. I love doing these. I'm going to call them one-offs, but they're basically my thoughts on either things I'm seeing within our community information that I feel like will be helpful for you all along your fasting journey. Like today, what we're going to talk about are the principles that I wrote about in Eat Like a Girl. So I'm really excited to share this with you. There are some really tried and true principles that all women should use when looking at their eating window. We're talking about the eating window. And how do you master the eating window? In Fast Like a Girl, what I was really helping women see is that there are two windows. There's a fasting window and there's an eating window. And what I realized in that process was so many of you had never thought about the fasting window, which is really cool and why so many of you got such great results. But then we saw that a lot of you really struggled to go back into your eating window. Food is complex and food has become toxic. And our taste buds have been hijacked. And so with Eat Like a Girl, I wanted to give you some guiding principles just like I gave you guiding principles with Fast Like a Girl. So this podcast and this episode is really about an introduction to Eat Like a Girl, which depending on when you're listening to this, will come out. Launch date is October 22nd. It is now at the time of me doing this recording. It is available for pre-order. And what's really exciting about Eat Like a Girl is the front half is all food principles. I have put lists in there that you can go back in reference. I have given you guiding principles to go to breaking your fast and moving into this eating window. And then how do you master the eating window so that going in and out of fasting window, eating window becomes very effortless. So in this episode, I want to give you two really cool guiding principles that I wrote about in Eat Like a Girl. And the first one is called the foundational five. And then the second one is called the three Eat Like a Girl principles. Welcome to the Resetter Podcast. This podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself again. If you have a passion for learning, if you're looking to be in control of your health and take your power back, this is the podcast for you. Here we go. Here is the five foundational food ideas that really everybody should follow. This one I've been out doing podcasts talking about the new book. And this one is really what people say to me in the foundational five is, well, isn't this good for both men and women? And the answer is yes. But again, the lens in which I see my work a lot through is the female body. So these five are moths. And when you lose your way, let's come back to these five. So here they are. Principle number one of the foundational five is that your blood sugar matters. Calories don't. Now there are a lot of thoughts right now on calories. It's really surprising to me. If you haven't heard the interview I did with Stephen Bartlett on the diary, the CEO, we will link that in the notes to this show so you can go see it. But the second episode I did with him, we spent a lot of time talking about calories. And when you look at the science on calories, yes, it's prolific. I mean, there is a lot of research showing that a calorie is a way of understanding the energy that is required to absorb that food into your body. And if you take in too much energy and you don't have enough energy output, then yes, you will gain weight. There is a piece of that. And I'm not saying that that is wrong. What I'm saying is that is harder than shit to follow. Like I asked even this, I was like, nobody that I know of has told me I counted my calorie input and my calorie output. And I did that every day of my life. And it kept my weight where I wanted to be. I'm sure there's somebody out there, but I have never heard somebody say that that worked for them. And this was really what I brought up to Stephen. I asked him when he said, what do you think of calorie counting? I said, well, have you ever succeeded at it? And he said, well, maybe for a day or two. So the calorie model is so broken because A, we can't follow it. And B, every time you decrease your input of calories and you increase your output of calories, you change your set point. And this is something that Dr. Jason Fung brought to us when he brought the obesity code, which really gets a lot of credit for being one of the original books that said, hey, we're looking at weight loss from a really different lens and it's broken. And we need to look at weight loss as a hormonal issue, not a calorie issue. And he actually in the obesity code, he referenced something called the Minnesota starvation experiment. And the experiment went something like this. They took a group of men, quarantined them and slowly started lowering their calorie input. And what they found is that the less calories they ate, the body changed its set point, it's metabolic set point. And so they kept reducing the calories down and they kept losing weight until they came out of the experiment. And I think the experiment went on for close to a year. And these men came out of the Minnesota starvation experiment. They were very, very thin. And then the minute they ate food, they just gained all the weight back, which was good in their scenario. But it was how we understood that there was this metabolic set point. And if we keep trying to eat less and exercise more, we are at risk of changing the set point. So we always have to eat more or eat less and exercise more to stay at that space. Now, if you put your lens on blood sugar, you bypass that whole experiment. And so the first principle is blood sugar matters calories don't. And when you look through the lens of food from blood sugar, how do I put combination of food together to keep my blood sugar stable? How do I eat foods that keeps my blood sugar down? And I don't end up with these huge blood sugar spikes. If we look at it from that lens, calories don't matter and you will not gain weight. I have seen it over and over and over again that the minute I can take your focus and I can put it over on blood sugar. Now you literally can have your cake and eat it too. Because the combination of foods matters and we'll talk about that in a moment, like you can take a piece, a carbohydrate and put it with a fat. And you won't increase, you don't have a blood sugar spike. And if there's no blood sugar spike, then there's no insulin required from from the pancreas. And if there's no insulin required, then we don't end up in insulin resistance. So when we look through the lens of blood sugar, we start to see we have more options. We have more flexibility. And when we have more flexibility and options within our food, we can sustain that. And so what I saw with fast like a girl was so many of you went into this fast in state, pulsing into it. And then you cleaned up the metabolic system. And the people that got the best results with what I taught in fast like a girl when they switched back into their eating window, they started to notice that they were not gaining weight. And I think I've told this story a thousand times, but if this is new to you, when I first started teaching this metabolic switch within my clinic, what I noticed was that people would go on vacation and they would come back in and they would say to me, oh my god, you have no idea how much I ate on vacation that was wrong. But I came home and I didn't gain a pound. And that's because I taught them the metabolic switch and how to eat to keep their blood sugar stable and how to tap into the fast in state so that they could keep bringing down the stored glucose and keep getting rid of any glucose that's been stored in fat and make their cells insulin sensitive again. So I really want you to get this because it's freedom. It's food freedom when you just say, I don't, I'm not going to look at calories. I'm going to look at everything that I eat through the lens of what is it doing to my blood sugar. As we speak right now, I've got a blood sugar reader on and I wear one, I used to wear one twice a year and I'm now wearing it like once a month because I'm just looking and watching how my food combinations are. It just keeps me in check. So it's the greatest measurement. It's better than the scale. It's better than counting calories. It's a measurement of real time action of what my food is doing to my, my blood sugar. So and I think blood sugar has gotten a lot of attention, which is great. I think we are hearing this more and more. You can go and listen to the podcast interview I did with the glucose goddess. And she has brought so many of this message to so many of us in a brilliant way. So there's a lot of people saying this, which is why it had to be the first foundational rule was I want to get you off calories. I talked about it in fast like a girl. I was like, I want to get you all off this. But I understand that if you've been a calorie counter for a large part of your life, it's scary because calories was control. And so now what I want you to do is if you're going to control, want to have some control over your food, have control over your blood sugar. And again, we will put links to my favorite blood sugar reader in this. And if you want to know more about all the nuance around blood sugar, please message us and let us know. And maybe I'll just do a whole solo podcast just on all the ways you can analyze your blood sugar. But foundational principle number one is pay attention to your blood sugar. Your blood sugar matters. Calories don't. Okay. Principle number two of the foundational five is eat nature's food not human-made food. So this is another one that's not necessarily unique, but it's mandatory. Just like when I went to go right eat like a girl, I was like, we have to get some of the old thinking out of your brain. But I can't just tell you this is bad. I want to replace it with some new thinking. So if you want to control something, control blood sugar, if you are tired of counting carbohydrates, which a lot of us are, or counting protein. And we'll talk about protein here in a moment. It's in the rigidity of counting that I think people go into these diets. And they're like at first, they like the like, tell me the rules. Okay. Like you'll see in my cookbook or in eat like a girl, which is a food book at the front section and a cookbook in the back section. I was like, okay, how can I get some of you off the counting of the carbohydrates? But I also gave you some guidelines like I have two eating styles in this book. I introduced it to you in fast like a girl. One is called ketobiotic. And in ketobiotic, we keep your carbohydrate level low. And I like it around 50 grams. And net carbs, which means you have to factor in the fiber. And the other style is hormone feasting foods where we actually purposely bring your carbohydrate load up so that you have enough glucose for progesterone. So both of those eating styles are our carbohydrate driven. Like I have some real strong feelings about how we want to make look at these two different eating styles through a carbohydrate lens. But before I could introduce ketobiotic and hormone feasting to you in a very detailed way in eat like a girl, I really want you to get out of counting carbohydrates to a point in which it is, it is now become a rigid, rigid, disciplined food principle that you can't stick with over time. And I wanted to introduce this idea that we need carbs or goods sometimes. And they need to be nature's carbs. Human-made carbs are absolutely what's killing us. And another way that we say it is ultra-processed foods. Ultra-processed foods are incredibly high in refined carbohydrates. And they will spike your blood sugar. And so let's just move to that second principle of when you go to pick a carbohydrate out, ask yourself, you know, did this come from the earth? The earth didn't make anything that wasn't helpful to us. So a banana that's really high in carbohydrates, there's a time and place for it. We need bananas when we need potassium. We need bananas when we need to make progesterone, which is why it makes it a very, very good hormone-fisting food. But when we want to lose weight and stabilize our blood sugar, we might need to bring get the banana out of the diet and go more ketobiotic and bring that take a different lens of that carbohydrate. So in this conversation, I feel like I'm having with all of you, I really want you to see that carbohydrates are not bad. But when we move to refined carbohydrates, now we have a problem. And there's so much coming out right now about ultra-processed foods. I'm really feeling encouraged that so many people are calling this toxic food out. But where I think we're lost is in nature's carbohydrates. And to go one step deeper into this, what I want to tell you is that ketobiotic works really good for estrogen. It does not make you more estrogen, but it makes you insulin sensitive, which creates a beautiful environment within your body to allow your age-appropriate estrogen to be produced by your body. When you are in a state of insulin resistance, that's when we see estrogen have challenges. And a perfect example of that is the woman going into her parimenopausal years. Estrogen starts to go low. And then it creates a more insulin resistant environment. And you need to make sure that you keep your carbohydrate low so that you don't start to gain weight. And I saw this so many times in my clinic where people were doing just fine with their diet until they went into parimenopause. And then they went into parimenopause and that diet didn't work anymore. And so we had to pulse some lower carb days where we don't bring the banana in. We don't bring mangoes in the tropical fruit. But then like I told you, in Fast Saga girl, on other days, we needed to bring those tropical fruits back. And we needed to bring the sweet potato back and bring glucose up for progesterone's needs. So this is the nuance of the female body is that our two major sex hormones actually have two different environments that they like. And you can almost look at it like I can use myself as an example. Like I a very social human. And sometimes I like environment that are very outgoing and have lots of people around. And then sometimes I like environments that are quiet and no people. So we need to hold both those truths, which is what I did with a ketobiotic lens. I said, hey, sometimes the female body needs lower amounts of insulin production in order to support age appropriate estrogen. But then other times your body needs more glucose to support progesterone. So I gave you hormone feasting foods. And just to make it easier for all of you, the way that I divvied up these recipes and eat like a girl is there's a whole section on the ketobiotic ones and a whole section on hormone feasting ones. So that when you have this book in your hand and you're making these recipes, you know what they fit in. But you'll see I didn't put macro counting on each recipe because I want to free us from macro counting. It's gotten a little obscene now. And my lens is always freeing women from the constraints of health that have been placed upon us. We already been told. So you do this. Don't do that. And all I'm saying is, okay, let's focus on blood sugar. And now let's focus on nature's carbs. Let's just lean in on nature's carbs. And when you want to help support estrogen, we eat the lower glycemic nature's carbs so we don't spike glucose. And when we want a cater to progesterone, then we eat the higher glucose nature's carbs. But they're both nature's carbs. Okay, so that's principle number two. I wish I could see all your faces to see because this is really important. It takes us out of this fighting that seems to be happening in the nutritional world of do this, don't do this. Women, as women, we've had enough do this, don't do this. Like the last thing we need is more freaking food rules that shame us and make us feel guilty. Like I'm trying to give you a new relationship with food and food is healing. And when we want to heal our estrogen system, we lean into the foods that are lower on the glycemic index. And that means carbs that are more like lettuces. And you'll see I've lists after list in here of here are the carbs that estrogen loves. And then when we go over to progesterone, here are the carbs that progesterone loves. And now we have more to work with and we're not in this rigid mindset. Okay, so that was number two. Now, number three, this one I love and I really want to continue to bring this home for you all that, especially those of you that are struggling with sugar addiction or carbon addiction. I want you to hear this really clearly. The third foundational five principle that I wrote in this book is eat for your microbes, not your taste buds. Now, it would be easy in that discussion to feel like I'm telling you to eat tasteless food. I'm not saying that. Wait till you try these recipes in this book. They were performed by two different chefs, celebrity chefs that are celebrity in their worlds. One is a plant-based chef, chef Leslie. And then one is chef who is an expert in all styles of eating, but also has our unique lens through looking at meat and cooking meat in an incredibly tasty way. So when we look at eating for your microbes, what we need to understand is it's your microbes that determine your taste buds. I want to say that again, your bacteria in your gut tell your taste buds what to crave. An incredible example of this is Candida. Anybody who's ever had Candida has a massive sugar addiction because Candida is a fungus inside the gut that tells the brain and the taste buds eat more sugar, drink more alcohol in order to keep that fungus alive. But if you starve out that fungus, you no longer get those signals. And I am living proof of it. When I was in my 20s and I had chronic fatigue syndrome, the first thing I did was go on a Candida diet. And when you get eat like a girl, I wrote a beautiful acknowledgement to the doctor that taught me this because I was craving carbs and carbs were causing me to gain weight at this time. And they were suppressing my immune system, which was causing Epstein bar virus to accelerate within my body. And this incredible doctor put me on a Candida diet, which was meat and vegetables basically. And within two weeks, I started dropping weight and I started getting my energy back and my taste buds changed. I stopped craving sugar. So if we go and make choices through the lens of the microbiome, then now we are repopulating the microbiome. And the microbiome is so key for breaking hormones down. When I feed more and more of the bad bacteria, I get more and more bad cravings. There's also some really interesting research on chocolate. They found the strain of bacteria that makes you crave chocolate. I also found a study and if you listen to the episode I did with a Dr. Kate Shanahan about fat, I found an interesting study that fats. And I you'll go listen that episode. We dove into the study to see if it was toxic fats. They didn't say my suspicion is it's toxic fats. The toxic fats start to change the microbiome and cause an up regulation of bad bacteria that shut off GLP1, which is this semi-glutide that everybody's all excited about because if you can up-regulate GLP1, you can kill hunger. But part of the story that's not being told is it was in the fats that changed that semi-glutide within your gut. So now you're having a different experience with food you're wanting to eat more. So the foods we eat change the microbiome. And as the microbiome changes, it tells us to eat more of either the right or the wrong food. So you get to pick what do you want to do? Do you want to crave more of the right foods? Or do you want to crave more of the wrong foods? It's up to you. So as you're eating and going around day after day after day, you are building a microbiome that tells you what you should crave. One of my favorite original introduction to fasting was through the lens of a researcher who wrote a book called the Every Other Day diet. And she took a group of people that were addicted to toxic food and were overweight and had incredible metabolic markers that were all off. And what she did is she said, okay, eat whatever food you want to eat one day and then the next day fast. And then the next day eat whatever food you want to eat and then the next day fast. And what she found is she did this for a year. That's why it's called the Every Other Day diet. And she found that the days off from the toxic food let the microbiome repair itself. And throughout the year, not only did the metabolic markers change for the person like hemoglobin A1c came down, blood pressure came down and liver enzymes healed and cholesterol changed. But what surprised her is their food choices changed. And those of you who've heard me talk about the story of the young man Todd who I helped over turn a food addiction and he lost 175 pounds, we applied this. He was addicted to western food. And so instead of taking that western food away, I taught him to fast and then I taught him to add in like fiber and add in good foods, prebiotic polyphenol, probiotic foods that would help to create better bacteria and his gut. So now changing his food habits isn't a discipline issue. It is actually an innate feeling inside of him because his taste buds change because his microbiome changed then he made different food choices. I hope you're getting this because it's huge when we go and feed the microbiome. And I have all kinds of lists in here about different, back to the different foods that really do a good job feeding your microbiome specifically the astroboloam, which is the set of bacteria that break down estrogen, which is really important for perimenopausal and menopausal women. Okay, principle number four is protein is the hero macronutrient. Now this one is really important because protein is having its day. And there's a lot of conversation on protein. You've probably heard me even talk about protein a lot here on this channel and on my podcast. But we're back at counting again. We can't keep counting. So the rhetoric that's getting out there is one gram of protein for every pound of ideal body weight. That's what we should be focused on. But it's hard to sustain that. So I want to just flip that and say protein is the hero. So when you're looking to put food together in combination and when you're looking at a day's worth of eating, ask yourself, and do I have protein at every meal? This is why I love beef sticks and my favorite was paleo valley beef sticks. I walk around eating that all day. This is why I love eggs, the hard boiled eggs. I've gotten really back into tofu for those of you that are plant-based hanging out with chef Leslie's just gotten me thinking about tofu and tempeh. And I'm bringing back a lot of different sources of protein, knowing it's the hero nutrient. But I'm not counting because I know I'm going to lose focus and I can't sustain the count. So when we come to the protein model, we want to make it front and center. It's like the main actress that we're looking at when we look at a meal. But then we need supporting actresses too, which is why we need things like fiber. So one of the things that I really focus on when I put a meal together and we're going to talk about how put a meal together for eat like a girl is you want to build a meal around protein and then put the supporting actress fiber with her. And if you're doing that at every meal, now you're in sync with your hormones. But again, I've said this over and over again, but it's such a good quote, which is you don't need motivation to stay healthy. You need momentum. And when we start counting all this stuff, we can we we lose motivation over time. I want you every year to get a little more momentum and a little more momentum with making good food choices. So protein is the hero. And then fiber is the supporting actress that needs to be with protein. So for example, I was putting a meal together for myself and I had a bunch of greens and I really loved I have like some cool greens and I'm mixing together. And I was looking at my options for protein in my house. And I found a can in my house of sustainable tuna that I we are starting to you know, I studied heavy metal toxicity for many years in my clinic. We did tons of heavy metal metal toxicity. And the minute I learned about mercury and how much mercury is in tuna, then all of a sudden I was like no more tuna. But then I learned about certain tunas coming from certain waters. Don't have as high mercury content and these tunas have been tested. So now I'm like I'm bringing tuna back because tuna has some other nutrients in there that can be really helpful. So I and I'm always varying my protein sources. So if you are a meat eater like I will look at like they have some really cool meats that are like ancestral blends where they like put grass fed beef with some organ meat in there. And it's a great way to get the organ meat in because I don't know about you but the organ meat is not very tasty for me. So you mix it in with other things. So there's also buffalo meat and there's different types you know there's several different types of poultry. And so the goal with protein is this diversity of it of like bringing in as many as as much different sources because the amino acid profile will be different. But then also making sure that we're putting fiber with it because fiber as I've taught you all acts like a net where it slows down the glucose response. So and then it feeds the microbiome. It was a really yummy salad. And but I put it together through this lens of these things I'm teaching you. And one of them is protein, Sahara macronutrient. Okay. Now number five. This one is really important because some of you still are in this lane. And I feel like as a culture we're starting to get out of the lane which is fat doesn't make you fat. But the wrong fat does make you fat. So just like I'm trying to repattern the way that we look at carbohydrates. Let's stop the counting. Let's focus on natures. With fat the low fat movement is the was the beginning of the obesity epidemic. So what we want to do is we want to make sure we engage in the right fats. And I've brought you lots of people on this podcast one being Kate Shanahan to talk about the impact of bad fats and to lean into the good fats. And again make sure you go and listen to that because she has a list and we talk about it in the podcast interview about what are the appropriate fats. And I also put lists of bad fats and good fats in eat like a girl. But let's not fear the carbohydrate and let's not fear fat. Let's just get educated on those. So when you eat the right fats you are providing a nutrient that your body needs. So one of the guiding principles I wrote in eat like a girl is called the key 24. And in the key 24 these are the 24 nutrients that you need to be able to make hormones. And one of those nutrients is omega-3 fatty acids. So you need omega-3 fatty acids in order to make hormones. But then you also need polyphenols to support the set of bacteria that break that hormone down. And one of the best polyphenol rich foods is olive oil. So we don't want to fear fat. We just want to in our brain separate out that there are fats we avoid and there are fats that we lean into. Same concept, right? There are carbs we let we avoid and there are carbs we leave it lead into. It's rhythmic. I hope you see there's a pattern here of rhythm. Sometimes we fast, sometimes we don't fast, sometimes we work hard, sometimes we rest, right? Like everything is cyclical. So fat doesn't make you fat. You need fat. You need the right kind of fats, not the wrong kind. And this is the thing I if those of you there in my reset academy I've been really talking recently a lot about stop guy making a real on socials. These 90 second clips don't build your health habits around these 90 second clips. And the reason I say that is because they should be a haz you see a 90 second real and you should be like oh that's interesting let me go and find the deeper information. And I think I've done this on a on a solo episode with you all before. And the reason that we lose our way when we start to look for sound bite information is because you're not getting the nuance that I'm now giving you. So it's in it's in episodes like this that give you that depth of information so that you're able to make smarter decisions for yourself. The last thing I want to say on fat doesn't make you fat is that I will continue to be the champion for your body. And when you are eating the wrong foods your body will tell you by storing fat by you gaining weight. What your body saying to you when you gain weight is you have been giving me too much of something I don't know what to do with. And it's harmful to the body. So what I want to do is I want to store it in fat to protect your internal organs. And then we go to the mirror or we go to the scale and we start getting upset. And your body is over there like hey hey like I'm saving your life don't be mad at me. So we have to learn how to read the clues that the body is giving us. And those clues one of them is you're gaining weight. And you're not gaining weight because you were undisciplined. You're gaining weight because the food system wants to keep you addicted to toxic food that your brilliant body is now taking all those toxins and storing it as fat. So we want to look at it as a message from the body to eat differently. And not as a message to your own brain that you messed up. So please relieve yourself of that. So those are the five foundational five principles that I put in the book. Again I have so many lists to help back those up like I'm looking right now at the book. And there's like one page where I put a whole list of how do you eat to support your microbiome? I have a whole list of carbohydrates that support estrogen and carbohydrates that support progesterone. So within these principles I've put lists to help guide you. So now if you and I are having a discussion about how do I master this eating window? I just gave you the foundational five. Let's start the conversation there. Now once you have those five and what I would encourage you to do is just write these five down. Blood sugar matters not calories. Nature's carbs not human made carbs. Eat for your microbes not your taste buds. Fat doesn't protein see hero macronutrient and fat doesn't make you fat. Write those down. Put them on your refrigerator. Put them somewhere you can see so that you're always guiding yourself through that foundation. If you get any of those steps off your metabolic switch may get rusty and fasting could get hard and losing weight could be difficult and your hormones may be out of balance. But we got to start there. Okay. Now now that you know the door into food is that foundation what do you do when you put a meal together? And so in this what I did is I came up with eat like a girl the three principles of eat like a girl. And this was really important to me because in the hormonal discussion one of the things that I'm seeing over and over again is everybody's like I need more hormones especially menopausal women are like put a patch on put cream on I'm not saying those are you know those are we've hopefully you've heard me say this over and over again that hormone replacement therapy and whatever lens you're looking at is an individual journey. And you are adding hormones in to a body that is depleted in those hormones. And that journey should be a unique one that you take with the doctor that is putting you on these hormones. So don't do it like your bestie. Don't do it like your sister. Your hormonal journey is unique to you and how you bring these exogenous hormones into your body. But that's only chapter one of the hormone conversation. Chapter two of the hormone conversation is once you have hormones your body has to break it down in order to make it usable to the cell. So it's a little bit like if you have a big file on your computer you're sending to somebody you have to compress that file so that it's sendable. The same thing with hormones whether your body makes the hormone or an exogenous source brought the hormone in it still has to go through a reformat in order to get into your cells. So what does that look like and I'm going to go through the three principles here in a moment. Then once your cells use all those hormones it has to detox it it has to off-g acid it has to move it out of your body and if it doesn't move it out then it stores it in fact. This is estrogen dominance. Estrogen dominance is you got a form of estrogen in your body that the body didn't know how to break down and detox. So it stored it and then that's where we start to see accumulation of belly fat. This is where we see some of the hormonal cancers. So can we just go into chapter two and chapter three of the hormone conversation. And chapter one is you got to make the hormone. Chapter two is you got to break down the hormone and chapter three is you have to detox the hormone. So when we are looking at through that lens the three eat like a girl principles are eat to make a hormone and I'm going to talk about what that looks like in food. Eat to break a hormone down so you're reformatting it so your cells can use it and eat to detox those hormones. And you can accomplish this in one meal. So I'm going to walk through what each principle looks like through a food lens and then I'm going to show you how you put it together in the meal because the three eat like a girl principles to me were an instruction guide for putting a meal together to support your hormones. So principle number one eat to make a hormone. Okay well what does that mean? And it's really simple. It's so simple. We need to diversify our food choices. If you and I were sitting face to face right now I have no doubt that you would be tell me that you eat pretty much the same 50 to 100 foods over and over again. I've sat with enough patients to know that this is the truth. People have a food preference. They eat the food, same food over and over again. I even have to force myself to get out of that. So if we have 24 key nutrients that are needed to make hormones we need to open up and eat a wider diversity of food. So this goes back to what I told you before which is if you eat grass-fed meat try eating buffalo try eating lamb try doing venison like open that up because each one of those foods is going to give you a different set of amino acids different sets of minerals. So now we want to use food to get these nutrients into our body so we don't have to use supplements. So just keep asking yourself am I eating the same foods and how can I open that up so I get more diversity of foods. Same thing with the fruits and vegetables you eat. Just when I make a salad I'm put as many different things in it as possible. I just had some friends over for the weekend and I was showing them how I make a salad. They're like this is the greatest salad and I'm like yeah because the salad kind of acts like a smoothie where you can put nuts and seeds and you can put different forms of proteins and different types of lettuces and all the sun you look at this salad that has like over 25 30 ingredients and it's meeting as you'll see it'll meet all three of the principles but it definitely meets eat to diversify. And those of you that are plant-based this is like when we're looking at our protein sources like we've got tofu and we've got tempeh and we've got garbanzo beans and we've got hemp seeds and let's bring it in from all different levels. I'll tell you in putting this book together I've really questioned and challenged my belief system on you know plant-based versus omnivore. Can you get the right amount of protein that you need to build muscle in a plant-based diet? And I've come to the conclusion that the answer is yes. I mean Stacy Sims came on and said that here's an extreme menopausal athlete and she's plant-based. So in the book I give you the amino acid profiles of the different types of plants and of proteins so you can start to see that when it comes to protein we have a diversity of choices but with people who are plant-based we really need to make sure that we're doing beans and we're doing soy and we're doing plants seeds and nuts that have all these different types of nutrients in it so we meet rule number one which is eat to make a hormone which translates in to diversity eat as many diverse things as possible. Okay number two is eat to break down a hormone and this is also fairly easy it falls into the category of feed your microbiome and when you want to feed your microbiome I introduce this concept in Fasaka girl you want to follow the rules of the three Ps polyphenol probiotic and prebiotic foods that's the diet of your microbes the more polyphenol foods probiotic foods prebiotic foods you eat the more you feed these microbes the more they're able to break down your hormones so that they're in the right format for the cells so this also now we have diversity we're not ignoring diversity but we're looking at food through the lens of okay how do I get more nutrients to my microbes and that all falls under one category as well which is fiber this is nature's foods to help you break down your hormones we need to bring fiber into every single meal so these are your lattices this is fruits and vegetables nature has provided fiber for you so with every meal we're also adding in fiber so that we're feeding microbes that can break down these hormones okay and then the third principle is eat to detox hormones and this is really interesting because this is all about your liver and your gut and there's a little bit of overlap which is why I want to kind of bring the conversation home by showing how these three concepts come together in one meal so we need that liver to help us break down estrogen specifically into a format that allows the body to detox it so if like I said before if we do not detox estrogen we store it and those of you trying to get rid of the belly fat this is really important because your body's stored it in the belly fat so I love my I've commented a lot on the liver supporting foods it's like ginger and lemon and radicchio it's the bitter foods I even do things like beet kavas where you can drink you know different drinks that will help with supporting the liver so it could do its job this is where we look at things like bone broth with a bone broth goes in there and it creates this beautiful healing to the inner lining of the gut so the microbes in there can not only break down it your hormones for the right format but can also help to move those hormones through your stools move it out through your body and get out of your system so and again I've got lots of lists I walk through the detox organs because they're important kidneys how are we feeding the kidneys you need to be drinking water to support the kidneys you know the they're I put in there some other outside food things like we need to be dry brushing and and working with our lymph and so I do have a few other principles that aren't food related that match that third principle so just so I don't lose you I want you to think about this you're putting a plate together and I want you to look at that plate and go okay I need to eat to make a hormone is this food a food I haven't eaten yet like I do I not like the tuna last night like I don't eat the tuna a lot so okay that met principle number one I also had in there some microgreens that were really unique that I don't typically eat I'm like okay that's now I've I've I'm putting the salad together I'm like yeah there's there's principle number two and then I put in some radicchio because I love radicchio and I broke it down and cut it up into the salad and I'm like okay now I'm supporting my liver which matches principle number three and if this is new for you don't worry I got less for you and when the book comes out we're going to have a lot of community experience with putting that plate together but whenever we come to a meal we need to ask ourselves if it's diverse enough if it has enough fiber and if it's supporting the liver and the gut for detox let me give one of the favorite meals that I've shared with you all which is I used to love to break my fast with a half avocado a hemp seeds sour crowd and then sometimes I chop up chicken lately again I'm been experimenting with things like tofu and I'm like okay now I've got I've got the fiber and I've got the probiotic and I'm coming back into food and it's matching these three principles so it makes food fun when you start to look through that lens it's like you can have your cake and eat it too just make sure that your cake is is organic it has the right ingredients and that it's breaking the right foods down you'll hear in the episode that I did with chef Leslie that one of the things that I found interesting about her food style is when I first met her I was coincidentally wearing a CGM continuous glucose monitor so she's making the food and I'm testing everything on my CGM and I'm coming back to her and I'm like look at what this and she had never seen her food in real time but the food that brought my glucose down the most was a chocolate cake and she had put MCT oil in it and it was so yummy and it had so much fat it had a really healthy cacao and she had put some fibery I can't remember oh avocado she put avocado in it and so it would stabilize my blood sugar really well but it also had this variety of ingredients that I don't typically put with chocolate and so I had this yummy experience to my taste buds but also a healthy experience for my body so checklist my friend you know let's look at the five foundational principles ask yourself if on a regular basis you are following that and every meal you put together you're doing the three eat like a girl principles you're looking at diversity you're looking at fiber and you're looking at the liver and gut supporting food so you can detox this out and then there becomes a language that we are now having an experience with and talking about and their their principles they're not rigid half-tus so I'm really looking forward to your response on all of that I can tell you that the front half of the book is a book onto itself what some of you may end up doing as I did go in and read the book so you might listen to the front half in audible and then get the main book for the recipes and I have sort of a vision of you reading listening to the book while you're cooking a meal or listening to a podcast like this because when I came to this idea of writing this cookbook and hiring these incredible chefs and providing yummy recipes for you it just was really important to me that I taught you what I know about the eating window for women because I taught you what I knew worked for the fasting window but in fast like a girl I didn't have the ability in that book to really go deep into the eating window and so now we're going deep and you just got that you just got eat like a girl course 101 and how you can use this book and honestly I look at these two books as as sisters there are companion manuals we've got fast like a girl that taught you everything you need to know about the fasting window and now you have eat like a girl to really dive into the principles of the eating window and and then you have some incredible recipes to put it all in action so I really hope that helps I really wanted to and will continue to be on a journey to make eating easier and fun and for women and to pull you out of the half-tos and to take you away from the shame and the guilt because food is medicine you know I had I'll tell you another beautiful story out of friend here for the weekend and she looked at a jar of key for yogurt and it was $22 and she was like you spent $22 on this and I said read the bacteria that are in that jar and you know she and it was kind of fun to hear her read it because it's hard to pronounce microbes and I was like all of that is coming in a live food and that live food is now going into my body and is meeting the requirements of what it's like to eat like a girl just in one yogurt and I could also go and do a spy a supplement that might give me those same bacteria but the challenge we have with supplements is that it has been freeze-dried it has been altered it has been put in a capsule and just because it says it has certain bacteria on that jar doesn't mean that that same intensity is in the supplement whereas this jar of key for cook key for coconut yogurt it's live food you can taste it it's sour it's it's been living it hasn't been freeze-dried so I look at that $22 jar of of key for yogurt as medicine and if I look at it as medicine now the $22 doesn't doesn't become as big of an issue it you know I understand for some it's not approachable but I really feel saddened that we're not giving it giving food enough credit like the supplement business oh my gosh people will spend so much money on supplements hoping it's going to create some change in their body that they don't even know if it will and and then eating crappy food let's come back to food is medicine and let's look at it through that lens which is what I just gave you and let's dip into the fasting state so we can learn how to allow our body to heal the sick the heal itself so fasting is allowing the body to tap into its own healing mechanisms and eating is adding medicine into the body for healing they're both healing states we cannot ignore them so it's really important that we approach both windows through that lens and now you've got fast like a girl so you can understand how to heal your body with fasting and you have eat like a girl so you can understand how you can heal your body with food so I hope that helps send me messages tag me I love when you guys tag me on these on Instagram I and the other platforms like I see it when you hear a podcast like this and you tell me hey this really resonated with me it means a lot to me because now I know that I'm speaking a language that is getting in deeper so that you can make better choices for yourself so I love your feedback I love your reviews I can't wait to get this book to you it's a gift that I really from my heart that I hope will clarify food for you and then the recipes are off the amazing they're so tasty and I can't wait for you to experience them so those of you that have the book thank you for ordering it those of you who haven't I hope you order it if you feel moved to and share share it let's let's make food let's make all these principles easy for women to thrive with their health so then we're back in control of our own health we don't have to be at the mercy of a health care system that really truly has left us behind so with I say all that big hug sending you so much love and I hope this episode helped thank you so much for joining me in today's episode I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you if you enjoyed it we'd love to know about it so please leave us a review share it with your friends and let me know what your biggest takeaway is