Seattle Spanks the Patriots, Drake Maye’s Mystery Stinker, and Parent Corner With Cousin Sal

Call A You know what? Fuck this. I'm out of here. Yeah, you sit down. You sit your ass down, boy. You gonna go wrestling Pro Bowl at me? Oh, man. It's over. It's over. Let me say my piece. Drake, baby, you can't be the one who saves me. That is that. There ain't going to be no Dynasty 2.0. The re-apex is dead. A dreadful, despicable performance by Drake, maybe, and Mike Vrabel, and the New England Patriots. What a disgrace. a complete no-show and there's not a damn thing you or Pats Nation or Bob Cousy could do about it. The Seattle Seahawks win the franchise's first ever Super Bowl. Is that it? That was their first one, right? I love it. Let's look it up. I'm going to have a heart attack. Take it away. Take it away. Is this what you've been reduced to, the lighting and another team's losses? You really helped me out here. This is where you've been. I would not have cared about this game if not for you. I appreciate it. Thank you. silver linings for me number one by the way this is the Bill Simmons podcast I'm Bill Simmons that's Cousin Sal we are live on Netflix right after Super Bowl LX which was a Super Bowl L for me and the rest of the Patriots fans silver linings for me I didn't go thank God that would have been awful I mean that's why you don't go to the Super Bowl for moments like that I was actually on text threads, like, would you have tried to sneak out early, pretend to go to the bathroom, and put, like, you almost have to bring a disguise to the game to go out. That's my first silver lining. Second one, Darnold, who I thought was good, but missed a couple throws that this game could have been, like, 50 to 7. Like, this could have been, like, an absolute shellacking. Like, he missed Shahid on that long pass when he was open. He missed, JSN got snuck away when he was under pressure. He missed him on that. but there was a couple of big plays. The Walker play got called back. They could have had 50 points. What was that, 29-14? Is that a silver lining, though? Because they sucked you back in. So that's not great, because it definitely sucked you back in. 50-7, you're good. You could have left. You could have walked out. I got sucked back in twice, and I hated myself. Silver lining number three. You're having a great time. I don't like how much fun you're having. I can't believe there are three. Go ahead. Maybe in the legend of Drake May down the road, This will be the game in the two-hour documentary about Jake May after he won five Super Bowls. It all started here with the pain of Super Bowl LX when the Seahawks battered him and he got sacked. And he set the sacks record and the fumbles record. Everything. You name it. All the postseason records. Garbage time yards records. Worst EPA since they've had EPA, since they've understood how to measure that. But there's been other athletes that have had bad moments like this. And Kobe had the terrible game in Utah, I think his rookie year or second year. Nobody remembers it now. Maybe that'll be Drake May. Okay. Silver lining. I'll keep going. That's very exciting. Christian Gonzalez was really good. I want to shout him out. The defense was good for three quarters. I thought we did a good job. And this Pats team, you know, this was a gravy year. This is supposed to be two years from now. We weren't supposed to be in the Super Bowl this year. Right. Silver lining. I told you that. Overachieved. Overachieved this year. Yeah. And the truth is, there weren't really any. There were good AFC teams, but that was it. There was no one special. The Seahawks team was kind of special. I thought the Rams were special. I'm not just saying it because of Stafford over May, whatever. But the Rams scored on this team. And I think they have extraordinary receivers and tight ends, and that was the difference. But otherwise, Seattle shut everybody down for months. They were a good team. And AFC team didn't deserve it. You sent Shador Sanders to the Pro Bowl, for God's sakes. And that's only because Justin Fields didn't accept. I think Joe Flacco went, too. I think we sent Shador Sanders and Joe Flacco. Yeah, AFC didn't deserve it. So if you want to add that as a silver lining, do whatever you want. I have one more silver lining. Thank God Drake made it and win the MVP. We would have had like a Dirk Nowitzki 2007 situation where, you know, he ended up losing by one vote. And now I'm at peace with it. It's a big night for Justin Herbert. Yep. We'll go back to Boston. We should talk about Seattle. Yeah, go back to Boston, man. No, let's go Seattle. It was their night. It was a really good team all year. Advanced metrics said they were great. Eye test, very good. But the Rams had, what, 479 yards against them two weeks ago? Yeah. This was an awesome game for them at the right time. and it moved into that pantheon of great Super Bowl defense performances. So you got like 2,000 Ravens, the Legion of Boom Seahawks, 85 Bears. Would you nudge them in that area or this was just a great game by them? No, I think so. I think just what I said, for some reason the Rams had some voodoo and were able to score points. And even though they lost two out of three to them, they were able to move the ball. If you look back, nobody else did it for like 10 weeks. And yeah, I put them right in there. I mean, you know, he ended up with 295 yards, but you really can't go by that. What you needed is, I'm sure we'll go deeper into the game, is, you know, it wasn't a blowout. It was the case where you had fourth and two, fourth and three a bunch of times and you punted. And it was the right move because you were only two scores down, right? Yeah. And Kenneth Walker was the difference in the first half. And, you know, whatever, whether he was going to win the MVP or not, it's like this guy, that's what you needed. You needed the running back. You needed the big 15, 20-yard play from the running back to get you out of the field position mess that they were in. Well, it was 19-7, and we got a stop. We got the ball back, and then Drake threw that pick. That was just awful. Yeah. It was like he was trying to get all 12 points back. It was also weird we didn't go for the two-point. I didn't understand that. Yeah, you want to get to 16. Why not make it 19-8, so it's a field goal and a touchdown? I thought that was weird. I thought some of the two-point stuff was weird in this game. But, yeah, they sucked me back in. I'm not going to lie. because it had the makings of almost like like the falcons game where it seemed over but there was a lot of time left and when they got the ball back they're like wow there's 12 minutes left yeah super bowl is weird it's a yeah it's really like we've seen ever we've seen that yeah we've seen the second half's turn like i think you had i want to say you had five first downs at the very end of the third quarter and then you had like two you had one through a penalty and then you ran for one or something and so he ended up like with seven through three i was like this is not damn it this is not over yet and then he he connects on that uh that touchdown to that that psych ward escapee mac hollins yeah hollins hit all his overs today it was one of the few bets i won yeah he'll be in the league for a while like he was the only guy who was kind of sort of very stable dude yeah well so you had this defense which um you know and against the rams they had one sack and they gave up almost 500 yards but maybe the rams were even better than we thought again that's the only thing i can think of because that happened in seattle uh collinsworth was all over it yeah being able to rush the pats with four people basically do these out of nowhere blitzes but then i it seemed like the big thing they were trying to do is make sure drake didn't scramble at all and then none of the receivers seemed like they were open so it was like all the worst possible things. The Pats haven't had a game like that all year. Even when the worst game they played all year was Vegas in week one. Even that game, it was a one-score game. They haven't had a game where they got their ass kicked like that in five months. No. Well, you're not going to have the Raiders on your schedule every week. What are you going to do? I'm sorry. I love it. No, they didn't let him scramble. The schedule stuff's fair. Didn't let him set his feet. Well, the one thing with the schedule, everyone's like, oh, he played the same defense as basically as Stafford. And you can only play the defense. But smart people were actually saying, yeah, you can only play the defense. You're not playing their offense. That's not really like smart people. Not you, but smart people were saying that's really not true because the bad offenses you're playing give you good field position. So you're going to score points, right? So that should be factored in. Our defense was really good tonight. Definitely. I thought they were matching everything. And at some point, you can only make the other team punt so many times or settle for field goals so many times and then do nothing when you have the ball. And it finally seemed like it broke them. When did you think it was over? And when did they suck you back in? Was it when JSN came out when he had like a fight with the blue tent? And then he was off to the locker room? Was that like, oh boy, this is, yeah, this is what we needed. No, I thought it was over when they went up. What was it? 21-0 or whatever it was. 21-0. No. What was it? 22-7. I can't remember. Right? I thought it was over. And then when they did the stop and they were down two scores, and it seemed like they could actually, I felt like they were back in. Then I thought they were out again. And then it just was about saving face after that. But they did suck me in. They sucked me in. I think they sucked all the Pets fans. So the defense, that's one. The Darnold redemption, I think, will be one of the legacies of this season. And especially him doing that against the Patriots, the team that broke him. He kind of passed the ghost over to Drake May during this game. probably was watching from the other side but he missed a couple big throws he avoided some sacks um i thought he moved around in the pocket i thought the pass rush was there the whole game and he never like threw he almost threw a couple picks but didn't he never got stripped like he just was efficient it was exactly what he wanted i thought as when they went up nine nothing it was pretty clear probably to them like hey we just we just can't fuck up on offense and we're gonna I would probably win the Super Bowl here. So let's be a little conservative. So they did what they should have done. I left you alone. I didn't text you guys. I know your Patriots were off texting. Fans were texting each other. I stopped. I stopped second half. I stopped doing my phone. I didn't want to give you hell. I'd rather give you shit here. I owe America for this. So that's that. What did I do? But I would say this. Darnold, I was thinking. I was like, oh boy, if there's a live line for a Darnold interception. Halfway through the first quarter. I was waiting for it. It's like, where the hell is this thing? And he just, it never. I thought that alone was going to win him MVP. The fact that he didn't throw an interception. But yeah, you're right. He scrambled, and then he did the hard part, and then he had, who was it? Was Barner open? Yeah, Barner got the TD. By the way, Barner, yeah, you called Barner first touchdown. That must have been exciting for you. It wasn't. No? No, that wasn't exciting for me. God, you're so hard to please. That wasn't exciting for me. The MVP thing, so Walker won. I thought he should have won. Definitely. Who would have been your runner-up for this? because there was a Witherspoon case, I thought. He was a complete maniac in this game. Byron Murphy was good, too. But Witherspoon, those unexpected blitzes that he just timed perfectly, combined with the fact that their secondary basically completely locked down on the pass receivers, I thought he was in the mix. He was good. It's almost harder to give a defensive player MVP because there's always two or three, right? It's rare that one guy, only one guy. and I think in like Cowboys Denver they gave it to Harvey Martin and Randy White they were like screw it we're gonna give it to two here. They did a combo right. Yeah like we can't think of this the only other one I was thinking was Myers but I was looking at his odds his live odds they never got past 13 to 1 I was like geez how many field goals this guy have to kick but I guess I actually would have voted for Dixon over Myers I thought Dixon was awesome the whole playoffs but he's like he's just a complete weapon over and over again never screws up it's always like there was one time when it seemed like we had a chance to get some field position the first half and he just 51 yard punt no return yep you know or if it's like inside the 10 he's going to actually put you inside the 10 um so for the seahawks their craziest most memorable game of this year when we look back on their season was that weird two-point game thursday night game it's going to be the thursday night two-point comeback game is going to be huge it swung everything it swung home field for playoffs so you have that you have revenge for the Malcolm Butler game and then from a legacy standpoint uh I hope this isn't the case but the team that broke Drake May it's not I Drake May will be fine he's 23 but I I hope this isn't the start of some sort of new direction of his career that they would get to plant their stake I hope it is. You really hate Drake. Look, I had a lot at stake. I have a crazy reputation in this industry. And I labeled him Drake maybe. And I, you know, that reputation was in jeopardy, Bill. I don't know if you understand, but yeah. Yeah, it took a while. What was your favorite part of the game? Imagine me wallowing me in my sadness. His fumble, I think. That really, really did it, right? The strip, yeah. The strip, yeah. And I don't want to, I'm joking for a lot of this, but that rush was so damn good. It was so good. But I also feel like, you feel like Vrabel let you down a little bit. I'm not questioning the fourth and twos and everything, but some of the play calls, you ran on third and five early, and then you punted on fourth and two. So I felt like you were giving up. I felt like you played a lot of that game up until the fourth quarter. You played a lot of that game as if you were playing Denver in the fourth quarter last week. And that wasn't going to spark any big plays. I thought the strategy and the coaching was terrible. Yeah. The whole game. I just didn't understand what they were doing. Especially like they brought that eye formation in once and ran for eight yards. That was like this big formation they had that was actually successful. And you kind of needed it the way the Seahawks were playing defense. They did it once and we never saw it again. I didn't understand why they weren't getting the ball out fast. Why they weren't rolling him out side to side when his legs are so good. Like why not try to buy him time? I can't tell you like people watch today maybe they didn't watch the Patriots that much their offensive line has been this bad all season like this is he's just he's navigated this it's been one it was one of the reasons I thought he was MVP like there was one guy that voted for Justin Herbert for MVP he was seduced by the seven seed um and his case was like he was running for his life though the whole season he didn't have his tackles and it's like did you watch Drake Bay? Was Drake Bay not running for his life? The Pats fans threads I'm on are like, did he just take too much of a beating this year? Could this have been... Well, nobody's ever been sacked or probably taken as many hits in four straight playoff games like this. There wasn't one easy half that he had. And this was what it was like the whole season. Earlier in the season he was controlling it, maybe partly because the schedule was easier. But by the time we got to this game, but that was what he was doing all year. He always had people around him. He was always like pulling. He had like five wild plays a game. How many wild plays did he have today other than the bomb, the Hollins? Like he really didn't have any. I don't know what to say. I mean, maybe that's the case. There are some quarterbacks that take worse beating, like Baker Mayfield, I feel. Joe Burrow, if you just look at his stats, Stafford over the years. None of those guys were able to get to the Super Bowl except for Burrow that one year. But I wouldn't say it was his shoulder. I don't think that was it I don't think that was the problem today I really thought like some bad play calling By the coach of the year And your guy wasn't able to execute And you needed Ramondre or something Someone to break Someone to break a big run or a big screen pass Or something because it just wasn't there Well there was a couple like that blitz When the play that ended The game basically when he got Hit as he was throwing it and it went right to The defender and the guy ran for a touchdown Too late by the end They should have the all 22 of that play. Witherspoon's leaving. Stephon Diggs is over on the right side. There's nobody on the right side. And he runs 15 yards downfield. It's like, you don't see this guy's blitzing? Why don't you run two yards and stop? And then May has the quick pass. It just felt like they were not on the same page. 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Now that is a winning strategy book now with Expedia. All right, we're back. I was thinking about this week in Boston, because I was just in Boston, the sports media there how they're going to react to this. Notoriously, fairly negative sports media. And the number one thing they're going to seize on is Drake May. Good. He choked. Is he hurt? Did they lie to us? Is this just Drew Bledsoe all over again where he got us to the precipice, but this is just who he is? He didn't really play two good halves in any playoff game. He got worse as the playoff. They're going to do the whole thing. You're an impartial observer, other than the fact that mckinley mckinley jake maybe and then part of the patriots fans um but i think i think it's mostly going to be fair because if he's going to get all that credit and you know one vote away from mvp is a goddamn lot of credit he should get a little shit for you know whatever they have what they have six sacks i'm not going to say he could have avoided all of them but i thought he could have done a better job with a two or three he should have done a better job than darnold did with your rush, which is just as good. I don't know what this says long-term for him. He's still a great downfield thrower. You don't see that much. I don't want to praise him right now, but I'm sure they'll go over the top a little bit. But yeah, he is to blame. He was horrible. Thank you. I've watched every snap of his career, I think, and that was by far the most frazzled and terrible he's ever been in a game that I've watched. And he missed. Collinsworth, they were doing a good job of pointing out. Like he was missing open guys. The defense was really good. The defense, there were still spots and there were guys open and there were plays to make. And he just didn't make the plays over and over again. And at some point it was like the punters coming out for the seventh day time. And it was usually because he missed the throw or he didn't see a blitz coming from the right side or we couldn't block for him or all three things at the same time. It was just really bad. We haven't seen the postgame stuff. I'm sure he would be the first one to say it. Like I was terrible. I don't know what happened. As a fan, you watch every play, whatever. You and I now as a fan, because I need him to fail because of my stupid nickname. But you get in a routine of you know if his feet are set, that a pass, you kind of don't even need to see the result. Like, you know, like, oh, his feet are set. He's rearing back. He's throwing. There was somewhere he couldn't get to his spot. He like overthrew Booty on a third down, like flying across the middle and everything. But even when he was setting his feet on that second interception, you're like, oh, that's got to be complete. He's throwing this with such authority. Right. Didn't even have that. It was way off. Yeah. It seemed like they sped the game up on him with the pressure that they had. And I think he knew the left side of the line, which couldn't really block all year. I mean, I was saying all year, how are we going to make the Super Bowl when we can't block? But they figured it out. They patched it together. but something the accumulation of those four games or something about maybe the stage easily the most frazzled he's been not only were the guy not he was missing behind he was throwing the wrong guys he was thrown too hard that was one thing he never really did during the season like he had that one play when i forget if his booty or digs was over the middle and he threw like a john elway cannon it was like just too hard the guy was open but he just could never get the timing down. Then finally it felt like he was starting to get into the rhythm in the fourth quarter and then the sack interception play happened. It took him three quarters, not that he was lights out in the fourth quarter by any means, but it took him three where it should have taken one to get the butterflies out. This is the story of this season though. Especially if you look back, there were all these games where they would just stink for an hour and then all of a sudden he would get it and you could see it happening in real time. It's like, oh, now he's in a groove. Here we go. So he's a young player. Obviously he's achieved more at 23 for an NFL quarterback than just about anybody. But this is how he's like, how do I get better? You get better by starting the game in a way, you know, that's not, you're not peaking two hours later. You kind of want to start the game that way. Yeah, no, he's done. So I don't know what, so do you go back to Mac Jones? Like two is available. I'm trying to, you could get lucky in the draft. Some of his throws today were honestly two-esque. They were throws of quarterbacks that we've made fun of, which, you know, again, Seattle's defense was awesome. It didn't feel like any receivers ever seen that open. They couldn't really run the ball. And they took away his scrambling. And that was it. What else is Boston going to say? Will Campbell is going to be a rough week for him. I like Will Campbell. He's a great guy. But there's going to be a lot of busy bust. Should we move him to guard? They'll get a month out of that. Is this guy good enough? Do they need a left tackle? They spent the fourth pick in the draft on a left tackle. Do they still need one? lock that down. McDaniels will take hits, I think, for not really scheming anything that seemed to make sense. And it's like, this is why he failed as head coach tonight. We'll hear that. The easy schedule team frauds, that'll go the whole offseason, especially as we're talking about what are their over-unders for win totals, their division odds. They'll end up being pigeonholed now as the Washington of this year. It's like, yeah, they overachieved, harder schedule. Are we sure they were that good anyway? They'll get all that. Do we want to, well, I guess we'll go over odds separately. But along with what you're saying, it's not just New England, Boston Radio that is not fond of them in 2026. True. Yeah, I think that's that combined with how weird the Denver game was. there's going to be the karma of some of the stuff some of the off the field stuff that happened combined with crapping and the Epstein emails like people have a field day with that that'll happen Drake betting on the Patriots I think will be a deal the other Drake I asked you last week I said what moves the needle for you any of these trends or anybody betting Drake was definitely my number one I was the most scared of and then I think the one that's really going to have legs is whether drake was hurt i think that's gonna because we always we never find out until after what was wrong with people and this was a guy who threw he completed like 73 of his passes he was one of the most accurate regular season passers in the history of professional football and then in the playoffs was not accurate so what happened and there's that that video from two weeks ago which i've had a lot of people mention to me when they were mic'd up, did you see it? In the Denver game? McDaniels comes over to him, there's like seven minutes left and Drake says to him, this is hard, this is so hard, or something like that. And McDaniels is like, I know buddy, I know, listen man, this is all going to be worth it. And the original interpretation was that it was playing in the snow was hard. But then there was this next level is like, he's saying this is so hard because his shoulder's fucked up. Yeah, yeah. And he's playing hurt, and that's why this is so hard. So then he comes out. What did he miss, 10 throws in this game? In the first three quarters? Yeah, maybe. When he was 13 for 26, like most of those were makeable throws. Three of those guys were probably covered, but it felt like a bunch of those guys were open. So I think that's going to be the biggest thing coming out of this. Well, let me ask you this. If you're an athlete, of course, when you're an athlete, we can't relate, right? They're just playing at such a high level, but let's just say as a podcaster, if someone said, wow, Simmons didn't sound good on that pod. Do you think he has mononucleosis? Like, wouldn't you rather that be the criticism? Did he eat carbs yesterday? What happened to him? Great. Wouldn't you rather that be the talk? Then, well, he doesn't have his fastball anymore, right? If I'm Drake May, I take that criticism. Like, all right, they think I'm injured. And yeah, of course I wasn't 100%. So I'll take it. I'd love to know the truth. I was going to eat pizza tonight, by the way. Do it, buddy. The other thing, this will be the really dark corner of the Boston sports media. And then the radio shows, people know who they are. But the Patriots, City of Champions, we've won six Super Bowls. We've lost 6-2. Nobody's lost more Super Bowls than the Patriots. We're only 6-6. I guarantee somebody will do that by Wednesday. That's stupid. We're only 6-6. Batting 500 in the Super Bowl. Congratulations for making it so many that somebody will do that. That's stupid. Guaranteed. I have one more I could add. I'll throw it in. they tanked the game on purpose. The difference between the 31st pick in the draft and the 32nd pick, it's a very rich draft. Their board was 31. It's offensive line intensive. You don't need Seattle stealing that pick from you if it's reversed. They tanked. What do you got? I brought some DVDs. Are you going to eat them like I did? Super Bowl 36. That was a good win. this was I think the Panthers that was a good one this was the one about the 21 game winning streak in the third Super Bowl it was pretty fun good story there oh really enjoyed this I think this is third Super Bowl too the second Super Bowl this is the sixth one I couldn't find all of them but I had some I'm going to sleep with these tonight and cradle them like a baby as I try to fight off the tears. This was such a bad week for Boston. Aside from you doing the koozie thing, which is nice. Honestly, there was so much negative Boston mojo that I thought there's no way it would continue. I thought, oh, crap. Belichick doesn't get in the hall. He gets snubbed. Kraft gets snubbed. Brady kind of turns on the team. The fans, led by you, turn on Brady. I was like, this can't continue. This means the Patriots are going to win by 25. You know, they say all great families have dysfunction. Yeah, but all in the same week. Oh, and then Jordan wears that shirt. My God. Oh, she really escalated it with Robert Kraft. Yeah, she wore the t-shirt of the spa that Kraft was at. So when I first saw that, I was like, oh man, that's harsh. And then I said, that's pretty good. like that's kind of in our wheelhouse of comedy she just goes they have the super bowl just comes out with this stealth spa thing because they obviously bring blame craft for not getting into the hall of fame so how did that start you think he's like hey you know it would be good if you wore this shirt or was she the brains behind it and says i'm gonna wear this and then he has to decide how far he wants to take it what do you think i have a third option she just did it and he had no idea. At what point did he have no idea? She just, they were out together and she was wearing a t-shirt. Maybe he didn't know what it was. Come on, that's craziness. You don't think so? I think that's in play. He doesn't know now? He still doesn't know? I think odds are they were out already. And she's like, by the way, did you notice my t-shirt? And he's like, I thought we were on to the fanatics party. Were there organs of Asia jokes at the roast? I thought that was, he would have to know. But maybe she tried to hide it from him until they went out. God only knows that this woman's capable of. Can you explain the Brady thing to me for a second? Because you went on a walk, a brisk walk, and you went off. And I didn't really understand it. Well, which part didn't you understand? He played for the Patriots for 20 years. We have a statue of him outside the stadium. He played with Mike Braybill, won multiple Super Bowls with him. And it's like his legitimate friend. They would go to the Kentucky Derby and stuff. He cared about Kraft. and supposedly cared about the fan base who always kind of stood by him and defended him. Well, I think that's the part I didn't understand. Like, we stood by you. You did deflake it. We did. We were like, all right. We got railroaded and deflake it. We were defending him like that. No athlete ever got defended more vociferously by the wrong fan base than that. I know, but it's not like he got nothing in return. It's not like Browns fans stepping up for Deshaun Watson. Like, he gave you six Super Bowls. Like, how dare you do this to us? I know, but he got railroaded. We loved him. Everybody loved Tom Brady. It's like you really have no dog in the race. I think there's probably a deeper element to it with how he left the team is a theory I've heard from reliable people. Really? Them not giving. I think he wanted like two years, 50 million. Maybe he was thinking he'd get a piece of the team down the road. And I think maybe there's more going on with him in Kraft than I think we know. I think it's human nature. Maybe he shouldn't have said it out loud. But I feel like, you know, I get that he's a phony. I don't believe that he eats Pizza Hut, just like I don't believe that you drink Pepsi, but whatever. So now this is the one time he's telling the truth, and everyone's like, whoa. It's natural to not want your old team to win, isn't it? You wouldn't root for ESPN. If they had a whole thing about, oh, ESPN's ratings are through the roof in the NBA pregame, whatever, you would not send an edible arrangement for the truth. But isn't it different, though, when the team comes with fans and a fan base? I don't know maybe he must feel about this hall of fame and everything else and now he's Kurt Warner with the Rams were in the Super Bowl Kurt Warner would be like I don't have a dog in this race and I'm trying to think of like compare Ben Roethlisberger with the Steelers or like it's kind of the Aaron Rodgers would say and I think that's what bothered people about this Brady thing yeah just say just say I really love the fans I had great 20 years there I would love to see them get another one because I know how much it would mean to them that's all you have to do I mean he's He's not hard. He's completely tied to the Raiders now is the only thing. He's tied to another team. He does announcing. He's supposed to be at least impartial on a lot of this. Wow. It feels like there's a little more there. So what 2025 team do you think was the most angry watching this game? Maybe the Rams, I think. I almost think Puka could have gotten some MVP votes tonight because of what we talked about a couple times. I went with the Texans. what yeah texans what are they mad about dalton schultz was at a super bowl thing and he got was in getting interviewed by somebody and he was saying um i'm still mad about the playoffs like i really felt like we had the best team in the afc and i just didn't think we played well and it's still it's always going to gnaw at me or one of those quotes and i was like if i was in the texans i probably felt i would probably feel that way like what happened to us in that game. It was like a way worse version of what happened to Drake May today. But you probably watched the Patriots saying, this is why, really? We couldn't have made it in this spot. And I would say the Rams would be the other one. But the Rams legitimately lost to the Seahawks last week. Yeah, I think they'd be mad. They could say, well, we were just in the wrong conference. We were one of the top two teams. I think that's what they could say. Whereas, I think, man, I would want to say who's mad. I really think five or six AFC teams could say they were like, Well, Broncos was my other candidate because they could say, if Bo Nix doesn't get hurt, you know, at the tail end of a game we were winning anyway, you know. And then I think there's a Bills fans would have a small case too. Like, I don't care how good your defense is, Josh would have figured it out. Drake's not Josh. So maybe those four? Yeah, I mean, throw the Jaguars in there too if you're going to throw Houston. They barely lost. Come on. Well, listen. I don't know. That's it. Nobody else in the NFC, right? Well, wait, I had one more thing. Okay. Because I actually think that game ended up in an okay place. It wasn't good, but it wasn't like a F-plus or an F-minus because the fourth quarter was kind of fun. But I was trying to think of the worst Super Bowls of the last 50 years, and I was looking at the list, trying to think which one. I think it was still better than Rams-Patriots. Rams-Patriots had on there. The Steelers-Seahawks won in 05 was really bad, had that one. that Broncos Panthers the Cam Newton game in 2015 right right right and then Packers Steelers was really bad even though there were points in that game but that just wasn't right those were kind of like my four least favorite but this is definitely up there from an entertainment standpoint yeah I mean well Seattle killed Denver I know you don want to acknowledge it but 43 to eight that was just never a game But that was like an even more dominant defensive performance than the one today. Right. This was dominant, but then also had this weird, what the hell's going on with Drake May subplot at the same time, which is pretty unusual. I mean, I guess Tampa, Kansas City, we just wrote it off that Kansas City's offensive line was done. and that's why Mahomes couldn't score a double digits. Oh, last year was bad. Yeah. This year was kind of similar to last year. What's that? Yeah. Just like to kind of... Oh, in Philly, Kansas City. One team couldn't block the other team. Right. You're taking this well. I would say you're taking it... Well, I had 20 minutes to recover before we came out. We should have done this in the third quarter. There was... Did you watch it in the pregame stuff or were you talking to people? A little bit. Not too much. So Matthew Berry gave his pick. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't say that much. They asked Drake May. They showed this thing about somebody asked him what the last thing he Googled was. And he mentioned some bag. This was during Super Bowl day. It was one of the questions was, what's the last thing you Googled? And he actually looked at his phone. Some bag? Some bag that he was looking at for some travel bag. So my wife said, I wonder what the last thing I Googled was. And she looked and it was best hot dog in Los Angeles. That was fun. My wife loves hot dogs. Good for her. And then I eventually made her leave. The bad, she got mad that I was getting mad about the game, which is like, we've been together since 1998. You should know what kind of demeanor I'm going to be in as Drake May's ceiling passes all over the place. Did you watch a lot? Was it just you and her or you had a couple of patch fans? Ben was popping in and out. Yeah. I think that's the way to do it with these games, even if it's not your team. I went to a party for a half of it, and I was just like, the questions people were asking, just like, wait a minute, so you don't have to bet the four and a half, you could bet a team to win, and people demanding an explanation of that, and I feel like a doctor who's dealing with a patient, it's like, okay, you say my rash is this, but I read that it's this, and you're just like, oh my god. But I'm more important than a doctor, but you know what I'm saying. what did you think of uh the bad bunny halftime because i thought i thought it was awesome i thought it was really cool how they produced it i really thought it was memorable i don't know what the what my favorite halftime ever was but i thought this one was really good i like it wasn't my favorite but uh i like that i like that it was distinct yeah right you know it was like a video it's like if that was a video you're like oh my day just kind of just paid for thriller in 13 minutes. Yeah, and there was some stealth messaging which was enjoyable. As good as anything that's not in English that I don't understand at all is going to hit me with. My wife asked me what he was singing about because it was all in Spanish and I said he's just singing about what the hell is going on with Drake May. Why can't he hit his receivers? That's what he's saying. They should have been in subtitles. That's what it would be. Why can't he connect a pass to anyone? When he comes out with the football and then does like two routines in a row with the football and you like you know it's coming it's gonna be like bad bunny rushing yards versus drake may rushing you know it's happening yeah uh super bowl bets so seahawks covered the game went under yeah it was getting creaky there for a second and it's a bit of a shame the pats didn't have quite enough time yet to do the uh whatever what were the walker mvp odds that was like 650 about six plus 650 maybe a little more so we we talked when we did this we talked about we thought jsn would be the one if it was the non-quarterback yeah i gotta say that one of the shocking things about the game today and i thought the pets defense was good but they nobody's running them like that with milton williams like they walker had i think a 29 yarder a 30 yarder like an 11 yarder and a 10 yarder like it was that just didn't happen all season so i thought he was really good he did it he kind of did it last week too though when he You looked like you had him bottled up, and then he would just take it around the edge, and he would beat this guy to the edge and be a 9- or 10-yard run. Then he does the Le'Veon Bell thing, where he stalls in the hole. He's got a few moves. He was really good. Yeah, he was really good. I thought it was going to go to Darnold until the last couple of drives there. I looked at historically, Eli and Peyton had games where they only threw for one touchdown. Their yardage was pedestrian. They still won. Joe Namath had no touchdowns, won the MVP. I was like, that's all you kind of need from the quarterback, Darnold. But Walker definitely deserved it, all said and done. I thought the over-under for him was 72 and a half. That was one of the props that I liked. I liked the under. So I was like, they're going to shut him down and make Darnold beat him. And I guess they mostly shut him down, except for he broke a couple. But he was great. But one thing with him, because I looked this up. during the course of two weeks, I don't think he had had more than 19 carries all season. Right. And in general, it was basically like a 15 to 19 carry guy because they always had the Charbonnet piece. And he had 27 in the game today, plus a couple catches. He had a drop where he got hit, but it was a way bigger workload. National Anthem, he went under. Under by like six seconds, which moved like three or four seconds. You could feel it early. He definitely was going with pace. It was interesting. The line dropped by like a second and a half as it was going along during the week, which is usually a red flag. My biggest bet, whatever, my biggest bet. I have to lose like $500 before kickoff. Otherwise, so I lost with heads, tails. But to hold a note brave, I had over three and a half seconds. That hit. And they did something. The director did something I've never seen before. They usually cut right to the fighter jets. And so you don't even know when officially the song ends because you can't hear. They somehow got him ending Brave and the fighter jets in the same shot. I was like, wow, we're living in a really cool time now. So that guy definitely had the over. Yeah. He wanted to make sure his bookie saw it. Coin toss was tails. No. I'm sorry. Coin toss was heads. You had tails. I know. I put tails in the same game parlay. Stupid. Kind of ruins it. first score was the Myers field goal, but first TD was Barner. There you go. And then all the cup overs hit. So Cup and Hollins were the ones that, everything, if you bet JSN, everything lost. Under, right. Ramondre had a TD, so if you had one, that one hit. And then the Seattle defensive or special teams touchdown, which I think was like plus 850, that ended up hitting. Yeah, that was good. Wait, what was your boys rushing yards? That was like the most bet prop. That and Walker receiving yards. Walker over 20 and a half receiving, I think, was the most bad prop. But May rushing yards. He had 37. May had 37. No, I think that was over. Was it? Was he crushed for this? Stevenson was under. Stevenson was seven for 23. But then Stevenson had five catches. Walker was under on his thing. and then uh all the punts in seattle field goal props hit oh yeah there was a seahawks one it was where you could bet seven points the kicker had seven points kicker would have 10 points right you could go up to 13 and uh odds started getting pretty pricey in those and then if you had byron murphy with two sacks that had to have been like that was uh that's probably like 25 to one or something. Yeah, we gave out some good winners last week. I like Pat's over nine and a half second half. More points in the second half than the first. I lost with that. Bad Bunny, no headgear to come out. I like that. The Anthem under we gave out. Brave over three and a half seconds. Ramondre first quarter, 10 plus yards. That one hit. Yeah, that one. You know what didn't hit was Pat's plus four and a half. That was very close. Loser. Cardi B cutaways under, I think. right? Do we see her once? Under one and a half. I don't think so. And the Gatorade was yellow, lime, green, which opened at plus 250, went to plus 135. You got that right. It fits with the Seahawks, correct? I got that wrong. Did Zane Lowe have a prop? Because they showed Zane Lowe at one point. Who's that? Your NBA guy? No, my friend from Apple Music. Exactly. Which that would have been a good bet because it was the Apple halftime show. Oh, right. They showed Zane Lowe with Bieber. Just looking cool. That's Zane Lowe. What a guy. What else hit? I'm thinking my under one and a half yard line touchdown there was bad. My quarterback MVP was bad. Did we ever have a – we never had anybody inside like the five. No, it wasn't really close. Yeah. We never got that pass interference in the end zone. I thought we were going to get it on the pass in the second half. Seahawks five plus sacks was plus 450. We mentioned that. And Willow Team scored three times in a row. It just seems like you would have had that by the second quarter. That's a wrap. Wow, plus 450. Good price on that. Yeah. No Scorigami. No Brady Russell. Brady Russell. Brady Russell. First of all, he was one of the captains. He was one of the six captains to come out. I was like, oh, my God. Oh, you lost that one. They must really like him. Maybe there's paperwork the captain has to do. Does he have to sign something? I don't know why they would have him. but they made a tackle on the kick return, but that was it. Somebody sent me, Eric in Bellingham sent me this long email about how the Patriots had won Super Bowls on the first, third, twice, fifth, sixth in the first twice. And then the seventh, it would have been the seventh that they won in the first week of February. Wondering if that should now be declared Patriot nation week in new England, if they won their 7th in February. And we'll never find out because they lost. Yeah. And next year it's on Valentine's Day. Yeah, what happened with that? Why is it so late next year? I don't know why it got moved up. The talk was that that wouldn't happen until they added an 18th game, which is going to happen soon. So the Sunday must be February 8th next year? No, Valentine's Day is the 7th and the 14th, both Sundays. And then President's Day is the day after? it? Is that what it is? Why'd they do that? I don't know. I missed it already. Odds for next year. Seahawks plus 750 are our favorites. Rams 8-1. This is on FanDuel. Ravens 12-1. I'll book that bet. Bills 12-1. Packers 13. Chargers 15. Eagles 15. Lions 16. Chiefs 16. Patriots 17-1. Niners. that you're insulted no it's the super bowl curse is a real thing now really this is yeah this is it's not great i thought you would uh sever all affiliation to fandle because they put you 10th broncos jags and texans are all 20 to 1 bears are 27 and then if we go to some of the longer shots. Falcons 50-1 jumped out to me. The new coach. Giants 75-1 if you feel like they could be next year's out of nowhere team. And then it gets a little crazy. The Panthers seem high to me. 150-1 for the Panthers. They kind of hung with the Rams in the playoffs. That seems high. That's bad. Your team's 30-1. That's bad too. If you had another zero, I'd probably start thinking about it. How about the Raiders are, and even in the bottom seven? No. Oh yeah, they're 125-1. Well, they have the recipe, right? Clint Kubiak coming off the Super Bowl. Mendoza is the QB. Trade Max Crosby for picks. Improve offensive line. They have a bunch of money to spend. The difference in the Pats situation and some other ones in the past was they're going to have a bunch of cap space. And they have the youngest team in the league. And their quarterback's going to be 24 next year. If they spend money, I find it hard to believe they're going to be not a playoff team. They have a first-place schedule, too. First-place schedule is hard. And also, God only knows what happened to Drake May. God only knows. I knew. I knew it. I try to warn you. It's like, this guy sucks. He shouldn't even be in the league. He completed 73% of his passes. Yeah. Just went out the window. What else do we have to cover? What do we have? Let's see. uh because we can go to parent corner because i have a doozy this week oh yeah you said you had a said you had a good one um you know just in general i'm gonna say i think there's too much time now between the conference game and the super bowl and i know you can't make it 10 days you're not going to make the super bowl on wednesday but you know it deserves more than a week but in this day and age with just getting social media just bombarding you yeah every angle every trend every prop is debated through exhaustion by like the first monday you know the second monday or whatever i mean yeah you know your team's in the super bowl and you still found 29 hours to dissect the hawks jazz trade involving like the fourth best ball brother the nba counter program moved the trade deadline but yeah to two podcasts yeah they should for that should be next week shouldn't you know what's gonna happen when it goes to an 18 game schedule they're going to get rid of that week between the games. So we'll go right from the Super Bowl and we'll be at the location by Tuesday and we'll be ready to go. Because it just ends up, you know, you get some domestic violence cases in there and you get like a terrible Pro Bowl with even worse ratings. It just ends up being negative stuff for the league. Media Day is kind of stupid too now. Yeah, Media Day was on a Monday and they did the NFL Honors thing. Right. Nobody can pronounce the winners' names. it does feel like it felt like forever since the championships thing. We used to do this where it would go right to the next thing. I remember that Super Bowl 36 I think the next maybe that was 9-11 related. Was that why it got delayed? There was a few times when they had to move it back. It was one week for a little bit. The Pats won in Pittsburgh and we were in New Orleans right afterwards ready to roll. All right. well that's it man i'm sorry i think that's uh let's do parent corner go ahead it's a lot of look forward to go all right i got a couple first of all i'm uh you know my middle guy jack romo turned 18 and uh we're driving to dinner it's me him and my father melissa and the other kids was in the other car uh way to take two cars so he's with me and my 85 year old father and we're talking about the game and for some reason he calls them the patriots he's always called them the patriots It's very weird. It's not a New York accent. It's not a New York thing. He's like, yeah, the Patriots, they have a bunch of criminals. And I'm like, oh, here we go. Like, I want to agree with him for your purposes, but not this. So he's like, who's the one, you know, they moved the trial and whatever. I'm like, whatever. I'm like, Stefan Diggs. He says, Jiggs? I was like, no, Diggs. He's like, no, no, no, no. It's not Jiggs. I was like, yeah, no, I didn't say Jiggs. Diggs. He's like, no, no, it's not Jiggs. It's someone else. I'm like, I'm not saying Jiggs. It ended up being like the worst, most infuriating round of who's on first. I look back at Jack. I was like, I know it's your birthday, but I think we'd all benefit if I just drove us into a ditch right now. But I didn't. So whether it's jigs or digs, we've got to look into that. But the only other thing I'll say is no more picture day for sports. I might have even used it as a parent corner topic 10 years ago, but now I really mean it. It's not that important to get these kids in uniforms, Harrison's basketball team, and drive them to wait in line with other teams when this could easily be done right before a game. It's obviously a money grab. We have digital photos and cameras, and we could do this right away. We all have nice high-tech cameras on our phones. You take a picture, you send it out. Grandma and grandpa either don't need the wallet photos anymore because they don't have wallets, or they're at the games taking pictures, or they're dead. I don't know what it is, but we don't need it. It's a waste of time and money. He didn't even have a game that day, so it was pointless. A costume party. Oh, I hate when they do that. That is an official money grab. Yeah, it's its own day. It's not even in the thing. It's like, Jackson R is here, but Jackson W isn't, but we could Photoshop him in. I was like, well, as soon as you're talking about Photoshopping, this is pointless, so let's stop. You know what we can do before the first game? Just put all the kids next to each other in front of something and take a picture, and that's the team picture. No one's sweating. It's good. It's some fancy photographer. Thank you. All right. I'm excited. It's all a giant money grab. There you go. Went to see my mom last week and I was with my wife and my mom of course there was some wine and some cheese which I was not having because I think I had a podcast later But they were And my mom said you know those cars that have the breathalyzers when you get in the car to make sure you haven drank too much I'm like, oh boy, here we go. Okay. Yeah, we know those cars. She's like, do they have those for computers? And we're like, what do you mean? And she's like, well, you know, at night, sometimes if I've had some wine, I've noticed I've made some orders that maybe I probably the next day would regret. And we were like, like what? And she said, well, one night I was up and I bought a, her and Carrie do French sometimes. Like they talk, my wife and her, they talk French. Really? French. So she was like, I'm going to buy some French. They barely know how to talk French. She's like, I was going to buy some French flashcards so we could have fun. And what came was this deck of cards that was in French and it was like $50. She thought she bought one thing and it was another thing. So I was like, all right, yeah, yeah, maybe, you know, maybe mark it down. And then she's like, well, there was another one that I don't really remember. I don't really remember doing this, but it showed up and I didn't know what it was. And Patriots DVD? They're drink sticks with my face on it. Wait, tilt it a little more. Hold on. Drink sticks with my face on it that for some reason she decided to make. I'm going to open these now. Take it out of the bag. She made them? She photoshopped my picture. and there's just multiple things of drink sticks with my face on it that came in the mail and she didn't totally remember doing it and that was why she was asking if maybe there should be a breathalyzer for her computer so of course i took the drink sticks and now we have drink sticks of my face that are just the most insane things i've ever seen i don't know i don't even know what the process was that led to her thinking this was the thing anyone would want well see it's good you take the good with the bad you lost the super bowl but you got this this is nice you got drink this is picture day i could get behind this is not if we all had our drink sticks we got together so we lost the super bowl i kind of like this angle more but yeah it's both sided too so in case it's not just facing one side it's facing the other side too how much did you spend unclear but it might have it seems like it wasn't i mean there's two bags of them Yeah. You got to give some of those away. Have a trivia contest. Should I put them on eBay? Give one to the best. Bill Simmons face drink sticks? Put best Boston sports host take most over the top. You'll give them a Bill Simmons drink stick. Well, so questions that remain are, how did she make this and where did it come from? Right. And do they have breathalyzers for computers? We talked about that. When you put your passcode in and you just have to blow in to make sure. Because my son is doing this thing. He put this app called BrainRot on his computer. I'm sorry, his iPad and his phone. And it monitors and it's been great for him. He's like, this has been so good for me. I'm never on TikTok anymore. I set my settings. It doesn't let me go. It's good. So we do have stuff. Yeah, I think it would have to be a separate app. I don't think Amazon gives a crap. if you're comatose when you're making Amazon's probably trying to encourage my mother like giving her extra points drink up lady we got a lot of stuff for you so next time you come over and we have drinks I'm going to give you a Bill Simmons drink stick I might jump in the car right after you sign off that's great I should put like three on eBay and see if I can get like $20 maybe make the money back I think you will give it to charity yeah I mean we talked about that with Fandle, like people making stupid bets late at night. You made a lot of Patriots. You were in Boston. You made a lot of Patriots. Oh, yeah. I had too much of a nest egg from Rabel winning Coach of the Year and stuff, so I ended up doing a lot of Super Bowl. I did do the one bet I was excited about was Hornets playing with Hornets to make the playoffs. You could parlay those together. You can? Really? Yeah, and it was plus 164. So that was like my biggest one. And now that's down. That went down a bunch. Because basically, if they're going to make the playoffs, they're probably going to do it as a 7 or 8 seed. So they would have to win the 7-8 game. So I thought that was a really... We were going to do some props last week. But our cousin Jimmy went along with the Billy's penis stories. He shaved his head. I like the Hornets to make the playoffs went way down. It was like plus 180. Now it's a minus. I like the Piston 60 plus wins and that's still almost 3-1 let me look what it is now it was 3-1 when I was going to do this last week and now it's plus 230 it's still plus 230 they have to play like 650 ball I think they have 6 games left or 5 games left against the Nets and Wizards they're damn good obviously one of the other ones i did yeah one of the other ones i did was nuggets celtics and calves auto win 50 plus games that was basically even and then um did the dark horse charlotte division bet with san antonio and the celtics which was like 15 to 1 but the the one i really went in on was that charlotte bet because i think as i've been saying for multiple weeks now i think charlotte's legitimately good. I don't think it's a fluke. I think they're a legitimately good East team. Not like a contender, but they're an above 500 team now. And they're over-under. Well, no, during this nine-game win streak, they didn't have anyone over 28 years old touch the ball or score or something. It's kind of phenomenal what they're doing. Are they still four games under 500? How are they still... I think they're two under now. Their regular season win total now is... Is it over? Yeah, 42.5 now. You know one thing I noticed? They're 25 and 28. I can't believe they're not at 500 yet. I know. They've been winning for three straight weeks. One thing I noticed, I do think they trade deadline because I went to Celtics heat on Friday night. And the Celtics came back from 22. But losing Simons was meaningful to them because they always had two competent guards out at all times. And then all of a sudden now he's gone. They're trying to figure out Vucevic, how to work him in. and it just kind of threw off the team a little bit. Miami kind of sucked in the second half. They came back and won. The Celtics looked terrible against the Knicks tonight, or today, and got killed by them. But I do think that week after the trade deadline, I think we kind of forget that that does fuck up good teams sometimes. It just tilts the balance, and you got to figure out how to work the new guy in while making up for what happened. Whereas I thought Alvarado for the Knicks, he fit in right away because he's a bench guy. yeah and there's also but when when you know when the calves i think the calves played the clippers the day after they made that trade right the hard train it's like oh yeah well hardens i'm gonna play clippers don't have we know all right yeah it's not playing like oh it didn't matter okay they're just gonna get killed anyway right well then the clippers somehow beat minnesota today yeah well they don't say somehow it's because we bet minnesota they know we put some futures on Minnesota, but that's another example. They brought in the new guy, Dasomnu, and looked like crap. So anyway. Out of the NBA stuff, because this is really all we have at this point, Charlotte was the one that jumped out to me. And then trying to figure out who's not going to be one of the 10 East playoff teams feels like there's some opportunity there, too. The Bulls, yeah. I mean, it typically was the same. Wasn't it Heat, Hawks, Bulls? They must have made four of the last five plans. Yeah. Those three. So I don't know. Maybe the Bulls are on the outs. The Bucs really screwed everything up for us. The Bulls are the 11 now, and Milwaukee is also the 11. Milwaukee did the Cam Thomas Hail Mary signing today, so that was rare. You love it. You're fine. You're good with this. You could just move on. You get to travel. You interview elderly sports icons. You have Johnny Pesky at Colgate University next week. You're going to be fine. So I went to Jack O'House. We went to Celtics Friday. we drive to Holy Cross where I went to college. Three of us went. We drive on Saturday. It's a blizzard. And Jack goes in a truck. Kudos to him for having stick shit, by the way. So I was really proud of him. We're in a truck on the Mass Pike. It's barely paved. We're like, oh God. Get to Holy Cross. It's freezing. There's wind because there's always wind because it's on a hill. The wind's like whipping the snow in our faces. And we're like, we're back, baby. Holy Cross. This is, you know, you did this too because you were in college in upstate New York. You're in there for December, January, February. It's awful. No snow days. And then like April, there's spring weekend. And you're like, this is great. But it's like two weeks. Three months you're there where it's terrible. But it was great to be back. It was great to see everybody. And it was just, House and I are walking down from the game after because we used to do this walk when we played basketball all the time. We're walking down and it's like 30 degree winds. We're almost falling. The snow's hitting us. And we're like, this is how many times did we make this walk? Like 100? Did anything else surprise you? The energy? Was it the same as you remember when you were in college? Well, they have new buildings. There were two new buildings. There's this huge performance center now where there was a parking lot. And so stuff like that. I'm like, oh my God. The school, Holy Cross is probably 500 people bigger than it was when we were there. but yeah you notice like the new stuff like they always add there's like a new dorm or a new building you're like yeah wow there's two new buildings like yeah thanks mr simmons you paid for that i did i don't even remember that well we weren't thinking like like these kids like compared to what some of the stuff we had like they have this awesome campus center you know there's a club and there's like there's like a coffee place where they make like lattes we're like, oh my God, we would have loved that. But we're in the late 80s, early 90s. It was a million years ago. We're never getting it. We met Jalen Coker. He sat with us, the Carolina guy. Oh, yeah. Nice. He was still mad about the Rams loss. He felt like they could have beaten them. See? Felt like they were right there. We felt that way, too. So maybe that's the team. What else do we got? That's it. This is your saddest day of the season, although it's not that sad this time. Yeah, I know. It helped out. I won some money. you and Hedge made this a nice win for me. Listen, we've got the Ringer Gambling show. That's not going away. Spotify, YouTube, Vandal Sports Network. We're cutting down probably to Monday. You're going to be on Ringer Gambling on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Yeah. Lots to talk about. We got it. We got March Madness coming. Golf is starting to heat up. NBA, obviously. women's college you throw yourself into that right yeah what's the next tennis tournament you'll probably I don't know what's next yeah we'll get I mean the French at some point I lost with Matsuyama we're gonna have some fun I'm gonna post pictures of breasts online you know it will do it all hockey you'll do some hockey oh we have Olympics yeah that was one of the bets I lost one of my fan duel bets when I was in Boston I lost Patriots with the USA women's hockey team to win the gold. The past money line with that was four to one. I'm like, I'm in. It's the all Patriot parlay. Patriots didn't hold up their end. But I'm definitely betting the hockey. It doesn't make sense to the futures because it's going to be USA versus Canada probably in both games. So you just wait till the final game. Well, I mean, of course, I did something stupid with Canada and the U.S. to win their groups. and it's not flattering odds at all. It's like minus 240, but I did it for a while here, for a lot. Oh my God. I was watching the skiing on the plane back yesterday. Yeah. And they have these, I mean, no surprise, but they have these awesome drone cameras now that go with the skier. I was like riveted. I thought it was awesome. Compared to what we grew up with when we were watching the Winter Olympics in 1976 and square tv and you could barely see anything yeah but it was really cool to watch and that was a bummer to wake up to the lindsey vaughn news like i couldn't we talked about it a lot on the ringer gambling show and they're like well it's a torn acl house is like you could still i was like well you could still what you could 85 miles an hour downhill it's like yeah but the damage is done i was like i gotta see this this is crazy and then unfortunately it has nothing to do with her leg yeah it's some kind of like the pole hit the butt whatever so i mean maybe that's probably had something. Yeah, maybe she's thinking of other things and stuff, but it sucked. That's an incredible feat either way. I like the Winter Olympics. Yeah. So we'll have that. We're good. We're going to be alright. Alright. Well, you'll come on at some point this spring, right? We'll talk about something. Let's do it. March Madness. Let's go on. I don't know. I didn't like how happy you were tonight, but I'll forgive you. I had to do it. I know that I got called out by a lot of people. I got called out. You have to step up for America. I don't know if I did the job. Well, he's still not maybe, but there is now a regular season versus playoffs thing. He turns into Drake maybe in the playoffs. That door is open for all that stuff now. That's fine. Give him an MVP every year if this is how he's going to behave in the postseason. I like it. I really like the Seattle fans. If we were going to get our ass kicked by a team, that would probably have been one of my number one picks. There's a lot worse teams that this could have happened to. No doubt. All right. Hey, thanks to Pepsi for sponsoring our live show here. Stop. Just roll through it. I mean, you know, go ahead. Go ahead. Thank you, Pepsi. And also I wanted to mention Wednesday night, I'm doing a live show at the Wiltern in Los Angeles. But just for the people who are going to this, make sure you know the movie Heat is all I'm going to say. heat's going to be prominently involved with the Wednesday night pod but we have and then we have new rewatchables coming tomorrow which is going to be Ace Ventura so that's all I have going thanks to Gahau thanks to Eduardo thanks to Jack Wilson because we did it this next year will be our 20th year wow guess the lines that's ridiculous I think we have to do something special for this what do you mean if I get like guess the lines 20 I feel like we at least need a graphic or something. Well, Ringer 107 didn't work great. I feel like when we attach numbers to it. No, we're going back. You know what I was thinking with Ringer 107, though? I think we have to move the picks closer to Sunday. Maybe you do one pick on your shows during the week, but then Sunday... I'd like to time it a little closer so there'd actually be better picks. Don't you think? Because I feel like we do a little better as we get closer to the actual games than we do. In the pregame show, our bets are better because it's Like right on the spot. Well, the thing we always talk about is you really have a sense for what's too sexy of a pick. Yes. And you don't have that sense on a Wednesday or a Thursday. But by Sunday, you're like, that team is now a stay away. Everybody loves them. Yep. But everybody loved the Seahawks. I was going to say that. Other than Drake, everybody, everybody loves Seattle. I asked a source at FanDuel what would be the ultimate result for them. And they said it would be Seahawks by three. Yeah. It's the dream scenario. and then everything else was whatever but I think they probably he could have cut it to 16 but no alright Cuss great job by you this season good job by you overall and the special last one good job by you bye everybody on Netflix must be 21 plus in president select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus in president DC Kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER. Visit rg-help.com. Call 888-79-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut or mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24-7 support in Massachusetts or call 877-8HOPENY or text HOPENY in New York for Louisiana. Call 877-770-7867. Thank you.