Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Mike McCarthy expectations, Jarvis Landry GOES OFF on Stefanski, JSN GETS PAID!

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So he was feeling good enough to watch, though, huh? He was feeling good enough. Look, look. Hey, I ain't got no problem with it, Joe. Trust me. Hey, I ain't got no problem with it. Let me see him, man. Put him on the show, man. We got a special guest. Come on in, baby. Come on, come on, come on. Show yourself, show yourself, son. Show yourself. Come here. My man. Hey, what's up, boy? How you doing? What's up? Here we go. Are you sick? Yeah. You sick? Sick or you playing sick? What you doing? I'm not playing sick. He not playing sick. He's sick for real. He's got a little tummy ache. He's going to be better. He's going to be better tomorrow. He's going to be better tomorrow, though. Okay. You got a fever? You running the temperature, son? He had a little temperature. That's what I'm saying. He really had a little temperature. Yeah, hey, we can't be sending you out there getting everybody else sick now, you know? Right. Hey, I see both y'all got that gator on, though. See, look, Devo. Hey, them gators ain't do a damn thing, though, did they? Why you got to be like that? Why you got to be like that? Huh? Why you got to be like that? I'm just saying, I'm still representing. We lost at about a buzzer beater. What's up? It was a tough game. Iowa got us out. I was beat us at a buzzer, beat a three-pointer in the corner. Why was it even close? It's March Madness. It's March Madness. Anybody can win. Anybody can win. That's why we play the game. I guess that's what y'all wanted to do. Y'all ain't even take a shot. Debo, listen. No. Come on, man. I got my son here. Don't get me all hyped up. Joe, I'm just talking, man. I didn't, you know, I'm just asking questions. I see a lot of Florida going on over there. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. I'm always going to rep my school, Florida Gators, win, lose, or draw. Okay. You know how that is. You know, if you're repping your school, y'all doing a lot of losing. So you're repping your college no matter what. Ain't you? Yeah. Hey, we in the tournament. I'm just trying to figure out how you go from winning it all to not even making it to the 16th. Look, always next year. Always next year. Iowa played a great game. I'm not going to take nothing from them. They did their thing. They did their thing. It was only one team that was going to win, and it wasn't us this year. Oh, we all know it wasn't y'all. I mean, come on, Iowa. See? Oh, man. Iowa, basketball, Iowa. Really? It's March Madness. They made it to the tournament. They have good players. I'm not going to knock Iowa, man. But Florida, we didn't do what we need to do. But I'm still going to wrap them regardless. You see, my team, we was number one seed, and it didn't pan out. But I was able to watch my team on March Madness. Do you watch your team? Who's your team? You know what I'm saying? You're just trying to go with my team. I'm in the tournament. I was there. I was ready. I was hyped. Ah. I'm just saying, Joe. I mean, I know what nobody's saying. Oh, man, Iowa about to go out there and do something, man. You know, you marked that down. It messed up your whole bracket, didn't it? Bust my whole bracket. You exactly right. Yes, it did. That bust my bracket. Carolina, North Carolina, who had them losing? Not me. I don't know, Joe. I mean, how many other number ones lost? I don't think no other number ones lost. I had a call. I had... Leave me alone. We need some water. My bad, Joe. It's always go Gators. It's always go Gators, no matter what. Yeah. it's always go gators no matter what man I understand that gators and browns you like losers I understand that Joe wow it's okay hey ain't nothing hey listen man don't cry me J don't kill the messenger man you know what I'm saying I'm just I'm just speaking we got plenty we got plenty natties over here where I'm at in Florida okay we got plenty natties man I understand Joe I understand I understand man Joe Kim and Noah go ahead what we got something that you know we both can get behind because, you know, it's still a related, of course. Yes. That's something we could talk about together. Yes. Yeah. And my guy, C.D. Lamb, yo, he tells fans what to expect from Mike McCarthy. He said, just coming in, he's a great time. As soon as he walks in the building, you're going to feel his energy. You're going to feel what he wants to do. He wants to go vertical with the ball. And I'm going to tell you that right now, but he's going to do everything. He said he's going to tailor his offense and get things situated, but he's Pittsburgh down. Everything that he's done has been out of love, man. Again, that's another guy that I feel like I would run through a wall for. This man said this about Mike McCarthy, baby. I love that. He would run through a wall for this, man. that's what they that's what the man said when they asked him hey man what is Pittsburgh getting in Mike McCarthy brother he said oh my god a great guy he loves Pittsburgh that's my man I love Mike that was his words that's it that's his words that was his words okay and I'm gonna take I'm gonna take him at his word no question I'm gonna take him at his word no question I think I think CD I like the way he moves I like the way he vibes I think that he's a pretty good judge of character as far as coaching. And if he says that, I'm going to take it and run with it. And I'm thinking that our team, this is what we need. And the one thing I like is, at the end of the day, Debo, defense, obviously. We're going to have to get our defense tightened up, alignments, assignments, techniques. Nobody running free. Nobody getting blasted off their spot. So we're going to figure that out. But we ain't seen the ball go down the field in a while. and really had to get the ball down the field, Joe. Huh? You know how you get the ball down the field, Joe? You got to run the ball well. You got to run the ball well, Joe. You got to run the ball well. Exactly. When he came in at 21, he took an offense that was ranked 17 in the rush. I think it was 14 total offense, and he improved that rush offense to a nine, and it was the number one total offense. he added the rust game to make the defense have to defend both. When you do that, you open up other things, but you got to establish the run. You got to establish the line of scrimmage, brother. You got to establish the line of scrimmage. You got to stay ahead of the sticks. Yes. Once you don't get yourself in a position and be looking crazy in third and longs where they know that you're, that they're going to come after your quarterback's head. We're behind the six. No, when we stay ahead of the chains, they don't know if it's going to be running past. They can't stay too high. They have to drop a safety down into the box, which speaks of that opportunities, those one-on-ones that we need. So what'd he say? They go to vertical game. They go to vertical game. I'm with it. I'm with it. Two big bodies now. Two big bodies. We got two big bodies going downfield and both of them like to get physical in that run game too. We can't forget about Mount Washington. I think Mount Washington is going to be a big, big part of the blocking game and the catching game. Oh, yes. Now listen, man, stop. You make like Frymouth ain't there. You know what I'm saying? You make like Frymouth ain't there. Stop tripping, man. What are you talking about? Frymouth is a thousand percent there, and I know, and we're going to use him too because that's the part. Whenever Frymouth was on the field, he was catching the ball. We just didn't use him enough. We was using John New a little bit more, you know. So now we got my man, Firemuth. He's getting paid. So now play him. We got Mount Washington still. So both of them, we got two. Perfect. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And see, when ain't nobody really saying nothing about, you know what I'm saying, what's the boy's name? Sebastian Joseph Day. That is an interior defensive lineman that we did. up real stout in the running game man eats up blocks okay holds his ground clogs up the running lanes okay high motor dude he liked doing the dirty work he liked doing the dirty you know what that do joe that allow your inside linebackers to run to be free because three-fold defense is made for your linebackers to run, make the plays. And on top of that, Joe, he done won a ship. He won a ship over there with the Rams. So, you know, he knows what it takes. He knows. Bring us a pedigree. What are you talking about? It's there, Joe. It's there. And then another one. Hey, Brisker, the safety, we scooped him. Physical. tone setter. Yes. They're a football kind of guy. Okay? He can play in the box. He's listening. He can give you that deep coverage too now. Yes. And you know what else? Because he's so good. You know what making good, Joe? What's up? What do you got? Good play recognition. He reads it and he goes and gets it now. Okay. Okay, that's what we need. And this is what I'm trying to tell you, Debo. I think with the defensive linemen and people being on their job and not letting the linemen, letting the offensive linemen get to queen, I think he's going to have a way better year. When I go back and look at it, he's shooting his gaps. He's not afraid. You know what I'm saying? He's running. He's hitting. He's going to do what he has to do. But I think some of the times when you get a free lineman up on you that doesn't have to go block, he's literally on you with an angle. Like, that's kind of tough sometimes. So I think if you, like you said, we get these D linemen that could really just hold your ground. Like it's not for you to make the play every time. Stop trying to go under people. Like you stand right here and that's going to make Queen be free. So he can be way more active and he going to make a lot more tackles so he can scrape and make plays Because he fast enough sideline to sideline He not scary You know what I saying So I just when I looking at it I like I believe him He 26 He young He not Let go Our iHeartRadio Music Awards are coming back. Thursday, March 26th, live on Fox. Watch as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music that you loved listening to all year long on your favorite iHeartRadio station and the iHeartRadio app. Hosted by Ludacris. 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Casey Hampton is a dude that should be in the Hall of Fame. No, he should be in the Hall of Fame. But you won't see him because the numbers don't say it. But his play, him being there, man, it ain't too many people that I think is better than him. I can't even really name one to be 100% honest with you. No, for sure. I mean, when you say that, Debo, a lot of the times when dudes are on the team with players and he might not get all the tackles, but it's like if he wasn't there, I wouldn't have made my play. You know what I'm saying? He's in his position, so then I can be in my position. So thank you, you know what I'm saying, for not being selfish, trying to make my play. You know what I'm saying? When you got your gap, I got my gap. When he comes into your gap, you're going to make the play. When he comes into my gap, I'm going to make the play. So when you have just dudes that are like players, team guys, this is my gap. I know he's not coming here. Somebody else's play to make. You know what I'm saying? Those are just the dudes that it goes unnoticed for the stat sheet. But coaches and players, you know, like you said, Casey Adams could be the best. And they're like, his stats might not show up. but no other, like he let so many other people run free and make so many plays because he's doing his dirty work. Everybody got some dirty to their job. And especially when you're talking about the D lineman, you're not going to get all the love and stuff when you get the sacks. And you know what I'm saying? But you holding down your job, the center, the guard, taking two, letting your linebacker go free and just make a play. That's what teammates like, good teammates, good dudes like you, me, people that watch tape, you're like this. That dude's a baller. I was like, oh, he only had 23. It doesn't matter how many tackles he had. He wasn't getting moved out of his way. How many MEs? Zero. How many missing assignments? Zero. The dude was on point every play. He did exactly what he needed to do. So like the splash stuff, when you see dudes, oh yeah, that's all good. But there's 70 plays a game where this dude is literally just holding it on, holding it on, like locking people down so everybody else can scrape and make plays. So when you get dudes like that, like you say, these tackles that don't care about nothing else but doing their job. I'm not going to let these men get to my backer. Boom. Oh, my goodness. We love you. Thank you. You're going to make our defense so much better. It's not going to show from your stats your numbers, but everybody else eating is because of you, and we appreciate it, big man. So, like, that's – you need them dudes. Yeah, that combo block where, you know, you got the center and the guard, they go combo up to the linebacker. You ain't comboing up now. You ain't leaving. If you get off of them too fast, he's going to make the play and destroy it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Ain't none of that happening, baby. Ain't none of that going down. No, that's doing that D-line. They just dogs up there. It goes unnoticed, but do you need them? No question, man. CBS Sports, I guess Pete Prisco, I guess it is. He dropped us down to 20 in the latest power rankings. Who cares? Whatever. He says in light of the horrible quarterback position, the franchise. He says they're waiting patiently on Aaron Rodgers to make a decision as whether he will play. Looks like he will. New coach Mike McCarthy has hope he does because there aren't a lot of options left. Joe, we already knew this, man. But Pete, you ain't watching what's going on. It ain't right here. This ain't no breaking news. you must not have had nothing else to write about, baby. But it's cool. We get to talk about it. So, you know, hot couple seconds. That's really it. We know ain't nobody there. We know we waiting on Rodgers, but we're building everything around to make sure that whoever steps in there has a great chance of being successful because all the other pieces are in place. You build a team. You build a team. You know, obviously, quarterback is the number one position. But when you have other holes, You just trying to get you the best team possible. So then when you get that quarterback in there, we saw A-Rod, you know what I'm saying? If y'all waiting on him, Mike McCarthy, who do you want? Do you like Will? Do you like – I know you like A-Rod. A-Rod comes here. It's a smooth transition. But I'm just wanting to see who McCarthy feels. I ain't worried about it. I ain't worried about it, though. I'm down there. I'm having a conversation. Mike, you know what I'm saying? Have me some FaceTime. Holla at him. See where his head is at, Debo. See where his head is at, man. See where, you know, what we got going on. Ain't nothing but a thing, Chick-A-M-Y. You feel me? No. The draft coming up and all that. All the draft coming up. Pittsburgh School said, yo, they about to switch to Revolt Learning during the draft, yo. What you think of that, Joe? I think that Pittsburgh is just being smart. Just a couple days, kids do a little virtual. They got a lot of people coming into the city, moving around. Solid. Let the kids have a little couple days. They still get the learning. They still going to be having a couple of assignments they got to do. I'm not mad at it. I'm all for it. Yeah. You got to think about it. I think they're anticipating, what, 700,000 people to be in the city of Pittsburgh for the drama. You talking about 700,000 people? An additional 700,000? You know how it is with just what we regularly have, bro. To get anywhere in the city, you got to cross over a bridge somewhere. They trying to block stuff. That ain't no more than one lane. Two if you're lucky. So you're talking about a nightmare, dude. Like if you're trying to transport these kids and get them to school on time, they'd say, you know what? Let's slowly roll down. Let's just chill. Let's get this virtual. A couple days. You know what I'm saying? and shit. They might not even get home after school until about, you know, five, six, seven o'clock. That's what I'm saying. If they did something like that in school, letting out at two. Mm-hmm. Yep. I think it's my move. I think in the NFL said they had nothing to do with it. I just think it's people making just normal decisions that's not, you don't got to overthink it. Common sense decisions, Joe. Common sense is not so common. That's the problem. Oh, is this crazy? I'm like, no, they're just doing something that's like, okay, boom. Let's move. A lot of kids, there's going to be a lot going on. Let's just take three days. They'll be out of here, and then we go back to regular schedule programming. Yeah, that's the easy work, man. That is the easy work. Look, man, let's go on over here to see what Cleveland got going on. I guess the former Browns wide receiver Jarvis Landry, brother, he had said something on this podcast about his time in Cleveland, and he said you expect most of these coaches that are younger to be more personable, more reliable with their players. And in most cases, it just doesn't work out that way. He also noted that after Stefanski earned Coach of the Year honors and the team reached the playoffs, the connection between the players and the head coach began to fade, Joe. It began to fade, Joe. Did you ever play with Jarvis? You didn't play with him, did you? No, I didn't. I talked to Jarvis all the time. I'm probably going to, he hit me up yesterday. Okay. Yeah, he's trying to get me on. I'm going to go out to Miami and get on this pod. Okay, okay. I'm going to get him out on us. I mean, if Matt did win Coach of the Year, what was it, 2020? Jarvis was there in 21. I don't know, Joe. What do you think of this statement, or should I say, of him actually just saying it, I guess? That's all I'm saying. We were just talking about – who was just talking about Coach McCarthy? we had C.D. Lamb talking about his coach. Coach said, went away. He's no longer his coach, but he asked about him, and he gave his honest opinion how he felt about the coach. When Jarvis Landry was talking about how he feels about Stefanski, the relationship just isn't the same. He just feels – Jarvis don't got no reason to lie. He's going to be honest, and that's the one thing you're going to get from him. He's not going to just bash nobody or say nothing for no reason. He's not going to make something up to get people to say, no. He's just talking honest. And that's one thing is just people, like, why would you say, I'm not going to sit there and talk about my coach's relationship while I'm on the team. This is in real time happening. No, like, I'm a professional. I'm going to keep it as professional as possible while I'm playing. Like, why would you say this stuff now, like, for people that say that? Because I'm a professional. I'm not going to be trying to go at my coach's end up. But once you're retired, once you're out of the game and you ask me an honest question, now I can give you my honest answer. And I wouldn't do that in the locker room because I'm a pro. I know what it looks like. I'm trying to keep all this together. The team's a team. That's going to be outside noise. Now it's like this, oh, you're thinking about yourself. I'm like, no, no, no. That's why when people don't do that, why didn't you do it when you were playing? Because I'm a team player. It's not about me. It's not about trying to get this stuff out like how my personal relationship is. But I don't like him. He don't really like me. But we have a job to do. And I'm going to go to work. And I'm going to handle my business. So then once you get out and somebody asks you something and you're answering it a little differently, like, oh no, that's how you, I'm like, yes, because I a pro and I didn want to make it a big thing That what you do You go about your business and you handle your business Now since I out we chilling I vibing up you want to ask me a question we chopping it Now we talking I can really let you know what was going on how I really felt how the relationship was, you know what I'm saying? So I think that's what it is with Landry. I don't think it's no hate, no harm. The same way CD talked about good things about Mike McCarthy or whatever, you know what I'm saying? If he had, if he had felt it didn't type a way, I think he would have said, I don't know, like, you know, somebody kind of rubbed me. He was, He was cool, but not really my cup of tea. And it was like, okay, boom. Like, okay, his relationship wasn't there. Certain people have different relationships with different people. They want different relationships because of how they interact or how they connect to someone. Yes, yes, that's what I'm saying. For sure. Yes. So, like, my interaction with that person may be different than how they treat you and what you guys got going on. So, if somebody asks them what happened, I think that's why. Yeah, yeah. So here's the thing, Joe. Yes. You and I both know that no one is going to tell the whole and complete truth about what's going on at an organization. Yes. And most guys won't even tell after they're done, depending on how unpopular it is. Yes, yes. Okay. And a lot of organizations go along with the popular narrative as long as it doesn't make the organization look bad because it's just easier. So for them to come out and say something afterwards, now everybody questions it because they're like, well, why didn't you say something before? Because like he was here, we're not going to do anything that's going to be more detrimental to our team. and, you know, make it harder. Yeah. Then I look like complete. And, bro, it's been that way and it's going to stay that way. Yes. Forever. Like, what was the movie? Will Smith. Good Lord. Focus. Okay. Where his dad popped him and he said, hey, you die with the lie, Mello, and you just might. Like, hey, they don't die with the lie. No, for sure. For sure. rather it's true or not true the lie, they go directly, it don't matter especially if it's unpopular to what everybody else has been saying you know, across the timeline bruh yes what? yes sir, that's that that's that baggie we got a little bit of news right here man off the air of the year how you say that name? Jackson Smith and Jigba Jackson Smith in Jingba is now the highest paid wide receiver in NFL history. Yes, he is. You got to see all. Deservedly so. Four-year, bro, $168.6 million contract extension. $120 million guaranteed. Yes, sir. $42.15 per year average. And new money leapfrogging your boy, Jamal Chase. Well, $40.25. Wow, he got an extra almost two on top of that. You understand that? That man has a, that's a Brinks bag. That's a Brinks truck bag. And he deserves it all. Way to go, JSN. Went out there, did that. Now, the crazy part is, that's the, you said the $120 million guaranteed. That's three years, $120 million, fully guaranteed. He did it. and now it's just the wide receiver market it just keeps getting reset and you know it's not if but when he's gonna be he's gonna be the highest paid receiver for about i don't know i don't know how much longer not before not before the season starts two three years two three years no way debo who you gotta get paid next man the man had 179 debo sorry 1793 yards receiving he was averaging 15.1 yards per catch. 119 grabs with 10 touchdowns. Can I tell you something? Super Bowl. Can I tell you something? It's not. It's the contracts. It's the agents. It's the next man up. If Puka, I think the only, like Puka is probably going to be right around. Puka next? Puka about to get a deal right now. Puka's playing a four-year, $4 million contract. He's on his rookie deal. And it's going into 26. They have to sign Puka. So this is a thing where Puka and JSN... Puka, that's what I'm saying. It's going to last 30 minutes. Puka and JSN, it's going to last 30 minutes. Puka and JSN, they were looking... It's going to last 35 minutes. I was going to say. Puka and JSN... That's like when I signed my deal, bro. I signed my deal. And then a couple weeks later, T-Sug signed his. Yes, Debo. That's what I'm trying to tell you. It's just who signed first. If Puka would have signed before JSN, JSN would have went and got a little bit more than Puka. So I think it's probably be right around, right there, right at 43, 43, 44 year for Puka. Yeah, it's just when you hit. This is the same. It's just numbers and agents. Like, how are you going? It's going to be right around the same thing. But Puka about to get broke off too. I love to see it. They deserve it. It's just when you're up. But this is what I'm saying. the 42 million is the highest and now we're looking at Metcalf's at 30 so it's just I I have to it's just a tough time of receivers getting paid it's like when this dude's like is he worth six is he worth seven like dude it's 40 the highest is 42 you know what I'm saying so now it makes numbers look different it's like half of that is 20 you know what I'm saying so you're just like 20 million for now people like oh is he worth 20 you know what I'm saying so it's like You better be nice. Half of that, there ain't nothing but, what is it? 900 yards. You get 900, 800, 800 yards, 900 yards. Is 750 yards, 20 million? I should get 20. That's what I'm looking at. Agents and the players, it's like, it just looks crazy as the numbers go. Because if you the baller, if you him, you Jamar Chase, you Puka, you JSN, you're going to be the one setting the market. Nobody's playing with your money. When you're like middle area, it's like, well, what am I, okay, what am I going to do? Michael Pittman Jr., I'm loving that. Oh, yeah. Like that. That's 20. That's 20. That's 20. We got a steal. Deal deal. So good. Good. Love it. Love it. Love it. That's half. That's less than half. Brother, we're dead. Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade? Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age. What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year? He still smelled of podium champagne and expensive friction. And how did a 2023 event called Wagageddon change the paddock forever? That day is just seared into my memory. 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Hey, I come in completely production orientated. Just give me third down. Hey. Miles gave me what he gave me? 23 for 40. I wouldn't give him 23 for 40, but like, this one- All I want is 350 each sack. See, look, this one I'm trying to tell you for real, though. Cam Jordan is still not, it's still out there. And Von Miller is still out there. Free agent, still ain't signed yet. So I'm like, you just gonna skip over them? Listen, hell yeah. What you talking about? Yeah. Listen, I'm coming in with minimal. They had 10 sites. doing nothing. Both of them had 10 sacks last year. Both of them had 10 sacks last year. That's it. That's it. You give me for the low, low, all I want is 350 a sack. That's it. 350 a sack. 350 a sack. And you expecting to give us at least 10 of them, though. Hey, hey, hey. You know? You expecting to give us 10 of them. Talk to him, Joe. Talk to him, Joe. Come on, D-bro. Hey, Joe, what 10 of them things is, Joe? Man, 10. You going to get you a 3.5? A little 3.5? What 10 of them things is? Go to you boy, baby. Get you a couple of L. Okay, I understand what you're trying to do. Yeah, what's up, man? What are you talking about? I can respect that. I'll give him 20, let's say 20, 40. You know what I'm saying? What is that? I only need to go home. They're like two. And they're down there two mil a sack. I ain't even tripping. I'm even giving a deal on that, man. You know what? I can't give him that much of a deal, man. Let me give 500 a sack. then. Debo, you got it. You got it. I love it. I love it. You football ready, though. You football ready. Because I be seeing you every time you still. Hey, hey, hey. Playoffs, I got to double that, though. You get it. You get it. Playoffs, I got to double that. I need a whole ticket. I need a whole meal ticket. I seen your IG, bro. You getting a little lighter. I seen that bench going down. 248, baby. I'm still throwing up four and a quarter, though. Don't worry. I'm about to bring you back up. I got to make sure. I'm talking about getting out there. Joe, that's what 248 look like, Joe. Okay. That's what 248 look like, Joe. Okay, yeah. You look healthy. You look healthy. Okay. You know. Like you eat your grains, your fruits and vegetables. You know what I'm saying, Joe? I'm just trying to say, man, let me go down there and see what Mike McCarthy talking about, man. See what Mike McCarthy talking about, man. You know what I'm saying, man? If you were over there talking about 500 of the sack, I don't know if you're going to- Put a feel out there, man. Put a feel out there, man. Listen, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, man. Listen. Third down specialist. A third specimen Let me see what I can do baby D I don know I got to come out and see it in person Yo, tell him you coming back. Hey, every pick, you want half. Debo. Half a meal for every pick, yo. I'm not lying to my... I'm not getting out there. Literally. I can't. You see the way my hips are set up now. I'm good. You got to work that out. You got to work that out. No, no, no, no, man. These boys not getting... They're not getting any. They're not getting any. We already talked about this, man. You're not getting any slower. Make sure that you're able to go out there and do it. I'm going to say, but I can still. I can still get it. But like DB, professional athletes. No, Debo. These dudes are still jumping 40. My vertical's still not. I don't know. I used to get able to dunk off. You know what? I got to think about it. Yeah. Because it's four or five. You know what I'm saying? Out there playing corner on the island. No, sir. My hips. I mean, get your weight up and move to safety. Get your weight up and move to safety. Man, coach, I done did my time. I'm good. I'm going to go ahead and watch. I done got my tackles in. I done tackled 500, 500 tackles. Tackled. Done tackled them all. Done tackling. Took the hell out. I mean, you had to do a lot of tackling in Cleveland because they was doing a lot of breaking through. No, I was doing a lot of crack replace. Crack replace. Get down there, Joe. Get down there. Bam. Okay. Yeah. You heard what the linemen told you about. You was doing the saving tackles. You was doing a 12-yard, 15-yard tackle. No. Blue through the line, all that. No, none of that. None of that. You know what I'm saying? Hey, Joe, it's okay, man. Nub. Nub tight end. I'm right here. I'm right here. I need that. Yeah. I'm just saying, Joe. I'm just saying. Look here, man. My guy, Joe Burrell, he made it clear. He said he wants to play in the 2028 Olympics. Ooh. Burrell said, I've wanted to play in the Olympics. I never necessarily played in an Olympic sport before. So when this got announced, I was pretty excited about it. The opportunity to win a gold medal is something that I've always thought about. A moment like that for a long time since I was a kid. I think it would be something very special. Joe. Yes. Look here, man. My guy is basically saying, yo, I'm going to have to go get a gold medal if I'm going to get something. and, you know, he's talking about flag football, obviously being a quarterback. He was slinging that thing. He was doing some things. He almost shook one guy, you know, almost got to the house. But, you know, do you see the game? Watch a little bit of it, parts of it. Yeah, they started doing the handing off and running. I'm like, yo, that's like doing 707 and running the ball. It makes no sense. I don't understand it. But they need to make some rules for that. Like, you can't just hand the rock over. See, but that's the thing, Debo. That's the thing. It's flag football. It's their rules. It's their game. It's not seven on seven. It's not. With the flag football, you ought to be there going ahead and just grab him and then tear the flag off. No. That's the difference. We not know. You can't just now, since you want to be Debo and you want to grab him. I'm just saying, you got to like, listen, man, they doing all the hip twisting and flipping and all that, man. It ain't really flag football. It's just hand-eye coordination football. Like, don't call it flag, man. Just hand-eye coordination. because now you got to just try and grab the flag because he's doing the hits. That's why it's called flag football because you got to grab the flag. Man, one hand tap, man. Put a sensor on him, and when you touch it, it buzzed, it go off. I'm telling you this. Watching that makes me just realize, though, it's not – if they wanted to play us in seven-on-seven, two-hand touch, that's going to be a different game. When you start having to be – that's hand-eye. The flag grabbing is for real, for real, the part that's like, that's a real talent. And also the play calling, the being able to set it up and knowing like the double passes and like the doing that is a real thing that you would have to like, if you practice it, like you just can't come out there and play with some dudes that have been doing this their whole life and like know all of the hip twitching, the dropping. You can't jump. You can't do that. So these dudes doing their little spins and twirls and you can't grab them. That's a flag. That's a foul, Debo. You trying to just rough him up because you see him. I ain't trying to rough him up. I'm saying when you go to grab the flag, make sure you get part of his clothing. No, see, that's. And hold it and make sure you get the flag. That's not the. That's. Then you're playing. Then you're playing contact, basically, then. You know what I'm saying? Flag football is more. Hey, contact. I ain't saying put your body on him. You are saying grab his clothes. So you're stopping him. You could. You know, you put. That's how you put a little hammy. Didn't they pull Joe's pants and pull it off? Like, Joe almost got stripped naked about it. Flag. I'm just saying. Flag. I'm just saying, Joe. I felt like it was entertaining. I just think that they know this game. It's not seven on seven. It's not like a regular football game. The field's so much smaller, you can't run your normal plays. They blitzing right at you from the seven yards away. You know what I'm saying? So they know scheme. They schemed it up. They know how to scheme it up. I liked it, though. I ain't going to lie. I thought that the flag football team did a really good job because, like, they was dipping. They was juking. They knew their little scheme, man. They're nice. If they would have put some pads on, obviously, it would have been completely different. Or if we played regular 707. Flag football, man. They don't want to play no regular football, man. No, they don't. Play real football. That's why we— Let's go ahead and Olympics get real football cracking. Get real football cracking, man. Just like every other professional sport, every other professional. they had professionals go and do the thing. They don't create a flag league just so that they can be like, oh, it's what? What is it? I feel you. If we had a real Listen. Football if we did a... But then... Okay, never mind. Joe. Joe. Listen. This is what we gonna do. What we gonna do? We just gonna go on ahead to the Olympic committee and tell them, hey, put American football in there and make it a sport and then let's see who dominated. Oh, we would definitely dominate it though. That's for sure. They don't want no more flags running around. No, that would be. But I think they're trying to watch the injuries, too. I mean, will we let with the sport that doesn't have it? That's it. Football. You got you got you got rugby. You got soccer. You got hockey. You got basketball. Yeah, baseball. I'm with you, D, but we might as well. That would be fine. What? Volleyball. Name it. Having a football. Contact football. Like, come on. We would dominate. See, that's why they trying to cross over and go worldwide. So they have it everywhere. And then we can have an Olympic sport. Maybe that's something they're doing that's smart. I don't know. But I know what it really is. They're just trying to grab that money. That would be fine. I need to talk. I need to talk to Joe Burrow. We need to make sure. How would you feel about your quarterbacks out there? Do you think you'll let your quarterback play? You'll let Burrow. My quarterback played? Yeah. In what? Flag football? In the Flag Football Olympics. Yeah. Okay. Thousand percent. I mean... They gonna represent the country, go get them a medal. I mean, they can't hit him, so... Yeah, you can't touch him. It's flag football. Yeah, I don't... Yeah, I don't see a problem with it, but I need to talk to Joe. Joe Burrow. I need to talk to... I understand what's going through your head. Let me talk to him. Talk to him, D-Bow. I want you to see me, Joe. Joe, I understand what's going through your head. Mr. Burrow, let me talk to you for a minute. You sitting there in Cincinnati, and you know there's no way. God's great nerve. He'll go get you a Lombardi. So, you see the next closest thing, gold medal. I understand it. You want to have something, you want to win something. And when you want to win something, Joe walks away from the TV, makes like I didn't see him leave. And when that happens, you try and grasp onto something so you can have something when you're done with your career. But if you want to have something, you know what you need to do. Joe Burrow. go up there, Mr. Brown, and tell him, I love everything you did for me. I appreciate what you did for me, but I got to have something to show for my legacy. And you need to be traded to the Piss Puzz Delos. And you know what I'm going to do for you, Joe. I'm going to go on down there. I'm going to talk to Mr. Rooney. we'll talk a little Dan we'll talk to Omar we'll talk to Mike McCarthy I'm gonna say hey Joe Burrow won't come now you just tell me what Mr. Brown won't and I reckon I can see to it that we get that done you know why? cause it ain't never too late change colors ah hey Debo I'm with it Joe Hayden did it. Joe Burrow could do it, man. Go ahead. Joe Hayden did it? That's crazy. But that was a really good pitch, Debo. That was a great pitch. That was a great pitch. And only thing, you know what? Now, see, that's crazy. I am all in for Joe Burrow. 1,000%. Who wouldn't be all in for Joe Burrow? If Joe Burrow came to the Pittsburgh Steelers, instantly it's time to win ship. It's time to go ship. What else is everybody talking about? Things will be looking crazy. I don't give a damn. What you're talking about? Hey, we got. You come to Pittsburgh, you ain't even thinking about a gold medal no more. What you thinking about? Lombardi after Lombardi after Lombardi. He going to Lombardi, then go get that gold. Call him the Lombardi boys. That would be out. That would be wicked. Anyway, bro. Anyway. Ain't never too late. Anyway, ain't too late. We need to go ahead. I believe we need to go ahead and make that. Make some cards. Hey, they trying to make it to where you could trade the draft picks four, five years into the future. Hey, Joe, if the rule passed, hey, go up there. Talk to Mr. Brown. You appreciate everything he done for you. But my legacy. Why? I don't know if you got no cheering yet, but you want to have your children something to talk about, look at it, think and say, They go back to, my kids go with me back to the Steelers, man, and they sit there and we go through and they get to see the Lombardis that their daddy helped win. We're hoping that they get to see that. Joe, we want that for you, Joe. Joe, don't you want it? What is it? Debo, the sad thing is that you even got me entertaining it because I would, I want it for sure. We want it really bad. But the possibility, what are we saying? You keep saying something like you know something more than me because I'm like, this is, you know, I'm all in. Hey, you got to speak it into existence, right? Okay. I feel it. I feel it. That's right. The power of the tongue. Hey, the power of the tongue. You ain't lying. Power of the tongue, Joe. All right. The power of the tongue, Joe. I just, hey, I'm just saying. You trying to speak into existence? I'm trying to, man. I just don't. I just, okay, I'm with you. Let's go! Our iHeartRadio Music Awards are coming back. Thursday, March 26th, live on Fox. Watch as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music that you loved listening to all year long on your favorite iHeartRadio station and the iHeartRadio app. Hosted by Ludacris. 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