A Former Deputy Shares His Ongoing Encounters in Shelton, Washington With Sasquatch

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwoods, trails, and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever, so stay with us. All right, welcome back to another episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. I have the privilege of talking to Doug today. Welcome to the show, sir. How are you doing today? Doing well. A little bit of background that Doug has provided. He was a paramedic in East Tennessee, also a deputy sheriff over there as well. He's currently in a Washington state working with the Washington military in some forms and fashions. And we might hear more about Doug's background as well as we go along, but you know, Doug, how are things going out there in the West Coast where you're at? How they're actually going pretty well. The weather is calm down and things have quieted down around here. You mentioned something off air that I found interesting, which is... So you've experienced a lot of things and you said it kind of feels like things have followed you around as you've gone from one side of the country to the other. Is that right? Yes, yes. As you mentioned, I started my EMS career in Southern Illinois and it's pretty remote or a very rural area. As a kid, I seen some things that I didn't associate with. Back then, you didn't hear anything about Sasquatch or Bigfoot or anything in the 70s and 80s. So then we moved to Tennessee and things started picking up and I heard stories from some of the locals there in East Tennessee, especially when you had a response time on the ambulance or the sheriff's department of two hours in the county. So these people there are not as social as they are here, right? Especially here in Washington, it's a very urban area out there. Scott County is one of the most remote counties in the state but has more road miles than any county. So people don't call the ambulance, don't call the sheriff's department too much and when you do, they're very clickish. So they don't want to speak but once you get there and get a report, then they start telling you things. And so things would go on all over the United States. And most of my experience is out here in Washington but there's probably been things in East Tennessee that I've seen that I just didn't associate with, that's been forgotten over the years, over the last 30 years. But things have really opened my eyes when I got here to Washington. I was just looking up Scott County, Tennessee and it is definitely over there in a pretty wild area. I mean, you've got Big South 4, it's just north of Catoosa and Frozen Head. Frozen Head is a very, very intense nature area with a lot of weirdness that goes on in there for sure. There's a lot of remote territory there that nobody goes to. So just a double check. So when you were working as a paramedic or, sorry, deputy sheriff over there, do you remember any specific calls or hearing anything where people were talking about Bigfoot or anything weird like that? I know some of the full-time deputies. Of course, most of the time I worked on the ambulance and I was a part-time deputy. So most of my time was on the ambulance. But yeah, some of the full-time deputies would tell stories of something there was a lady called and something was looking in her window. There was one that his animals were killed, don't know what it was, there was no tracks or whatever it was had to be large to kill their cows and their sheep. So those are stories I heard there. And back then I didn't know anything about it, didn't have any really experience that I could actually relate to and point to, hey, that's what that is. I've learned things now that I could say probably, but so we just dismissed it like everybody else did at the time. It's nothing. It's got to be something else. Somebody did it rather than their plane pranks or their getting even or whatever. And most of the time, the people there in East Tennessee didn't call the Sheriff's Department. But there were a few incidents that I didn't respond to personally, but I know other officers did. Yeah, and then you know, of course, that's something serious. It's like, it's kind of a joke out here in Iowa where I'm at. When a farmer goes to the hospital, you know, it's serious because they usually can take care of themselves, right? Or they want to take care of themselves. So it sounds like when you made the move out to Washington, that's when your eyes started to really get open as to there's something going on out here. Yeah. For example, I worked for a company, We Build Boats, and that was what got me out here to Washington. And a guy come to help me work on one of my vehicles. And we started, he started pointing things out in the yard. I had a tree behind the, the mowed part of the yard. We was renting a house out on Keep and Insula. So it was pretty remote. We had neighbors, but, and there was a tree about, I would say it's about 60 feet tall and about 40 feet up. There were two limbs that stuck off parallel to each other, right? Or perpendicular crossways, right? They were exact opposites of the tree. And it was about 10 inches in diameter at the base or 12. Two smaller trees, about six or eight inches in diameter were crossed. So the tree on the right was stuck under the broke off branch on the left and vice versa. So the trees were crossed and hooked under those branches. And I don't know anybody that could pull a four inch diameter tree down like that and bend them over and hook them under those, those broke off limbs. And while the gentleman was there, we started walking the property. And the neighbors dogs had been barking and everything just went quiet. And we had an old concrete deer setting in the front yard. It was the landlords and that we got around the front. We was around back looking at that and he was pointing out various other things. And the deer headed was broke off. Something had broke the deer head off and we got up next to the house and we found an impression in the grass. It was probably, I don't know, 17, 18 inches long and six or seven inches wide in the grass in the broad daylight. And so he started telling us and he said, Doug, I think you've got big foot activity out here. And so we were talking going around the back before we got to the footprint because once we got seeing the impression, I'm not going to say it's a footprint, but it's. That's what shape it was and the impression in the front yard. He got it in his vehicle left. But walking around the property, he started talking about this and I thought, you know, I just I used to smoke and I would come on. I work second shift. I get home about 2 30 in the morning. And I'd sit out on the on the back porch. We had a nice back porch and I'd sit on the back porch and smoke. And I heard a belch not 15 feet to my left in the woods. Now, I had neighbors, but they were elderly neighbors and they went to bed really early. And I don't know anything that belches, but. Hominids, right? People upright bears don't belch. Cougars don't belch. Raccoons don't belch. And I just kind of looked over. Didn't as I'm just hearing things right so it did it again. And so I kind of joked. You want me to get you a Toms and then I got to thinking. Nothing belches but us. And that was. You could just tell by the sound it wasn't. A human it was much bigger. I just went in the house. My wife finally we moved here from Southern Illinois and my wife moved. I was out here nine months by myself and then my wife came out. So she moved to there to the keep an ensal with me. And I went to put the trash can out. It was late at night about 10 11 o'clock at night and we're always up late because I work second shift. And I came back and I had the flashlight. And I shine it over in the side yard towards the direction of where I heard that belch. And I seen two grayish blue eyes reflecting or light lighting up and they were about nine feet in the air. And then they disappeared behind the tree. There was a huge tree right there. And I stopped and looked and I couldn't see anything. So it's like, okay, it's time just to go in the house. It was about, I don't know, four or five weeks later that my friend came out and we started looking around. And when he seen the deer had broke off and that imprint in the in the grass, he was done. He left and he had been telling me that he had just seen one a big foot on his way home. The year before he has a friend lives out there and he was out it. And so it was about two miles from our house that he passed it. It was walking alongside the road. And he said he had never been so scared. He was just glad to step out front of him and he got out there as fast as he could. So when he found that deer head broke and the impression in the yard, he was done. He was out of there and I haven't spoke to him since he has never been back. My goodness. So he was totally scared. Whatever he's seen on the road scared him bad enough that he didn't want and he lived here all his life. He lived on the Keep and Insula all his life. Doug, this is some wild stuff. I want to provide commentary for a minute about the area for listeners who are just listening to the audio. The Keep and Insula is smack dab in the middle of a lot of big foot activity. So it's north of places like Fort Lewis. It's south of places like Bell Fair is pretty active from what I've heard. Also, I mean, you've got to the east, you've got Gig Harbor over there. But more specifically, I want to point out is directly to its west, you've got Harstein Island, which has had some really intense documented activity over the years at the, let's see, Gerald Cove State Park up in the north. And then there's some other things if you look up and actually I've talked to an individual about activity on Squaxin Island as well. So. Oh, I'm not too far from Squaxin Island now. I don't, I don't, I don't believe so. I don't believe I'm too far from it. But yeah, I was about five, six miles from home, Washington. Gotcha. So, and that's where just south of there on a road is where my friend had seen one walking alongside the road. So, since then we, I started out, I lived in, in Olympia, Lacy area in an apartment and moved out to the Key Peninsula. And then from there we moved to Enumclaw and, and then to Tacoma. And then, so then we moved to Yelm, which is a more rural area. We lived just out of Yelm. And didn't think any more about it. And then one, one week we started in the spring, we started getting a, a stench rolling in. There's a big wooded area just to the south of us and a big stench would roll in. And it smelled like a musky garbage heap. Well, that's odd. And it would go away and it would come back. And so one afternoon me and the wife were out in the yard and just directly across the street from us was a, there was a section of woods about 10 feet deep off the road. We're on a busy intersection. And then the guy hit, the neighbor had just bought it and he had cleared the rest of it, but there was about 10 feet by, I would say 100, 100 feet of woods along the road. And he was at the edge of his property on the western edge of his property. And a rock came flying out of there. And he wasn't home. He has no kids. There's nobody there. The place is all fenced up and locked off. But a rock came flying out of there. And it's like, who would be throwing rocks? And the stench there at the time was, was horrendous. So we didn't, we didn't venture out of the yard. You know, that's his property. We didn't think anything about it. But I know he works during the day and he's single and has no kids. So there was, should have been nobody there. And it was all locked up. But something was throwing rocks out of it. And we didn't see anything. You couldn't see anything over there. But the brush and stuff was pretty thick. But something was throwing rocks at us out of that woods. And so we decided it was time to go, to go in. Our back motion light would go off in the middle of the night and I would go out and look and, and I, there would be nothing there. But then again, our back, the back part of the property was full of blackberries and trees. And it was, it was pretty thick. So it's not unusual not to see anything in that there's plenty of places for anything or anybody to go hide. But never heard anything, never seen anything. We had cameras set up sometimes that we never, never did get a glimpse of anything. And then that lasted about two weeks and the extension, all that activity was gone. And it came back a month or two later and stayed for a few days. And then we never seen anything else. I had noticed though that in the area, when the stench arrived, right, there was a pond across the road to the north of us. And tons of frogs just extremely loud in the springtime with frogs at night, right? And when this stench rolled in and things started happening, dead quiet. And that's what happened. It was the 4th of July in 2016, actually, on the keep peninsula that I was standing out smoking a cigarette again and all the tree frogs were gone and all the crickets and, you know, all the night noises, dogs barking. And all of a sudden it just went dead quiet. You heard nothing and you never heard anything ever again. And that's when I noticed about three days later that those, the trees were crossed over and it was about four months later that my friend came, but there still wasn't any animal sounds. The dogs never barked again. Nothing made a sound. It was like they were afraid to make a sound. There was nothing made a sound out there ever. And so Yelm was like that. And then after the stench went away, then the frogs came back and I'm finding the same thing. So we left Yelm and we bought a place here last February out here west of Shelton and we're in the timberland, right? The timber company. So we have no neighbors. We're out here by our side. We're a mile off the paved road. And we started noticing trees pushed over. And the first thing we noticed is a tree about eight inches in diameter, six inches at the break about 10 feet tall. So it's a six inch diameter tree at the spot that was just broke over away from the road. And I thought, okay, so maybe a piece of equipment because it is a logging road. There was no tire tracks. I got out and looked. There was no piece of equipment. There was nothing had pulled up there and broke that tree off. There was no tracks of any kind. And then I started paying attention. There's old trees that had just been pushed over, right? And I thought, okay, maybe it's the wind. But when the trees are three feet apart and they're that dense, the wind's going to push over more than one tree. Right? And so then we started noticing as spring came, no frogs. There was nothing. You didn't hear anything. When we first got there, spring started, you could hear tree frogs at the gate, but we'd hear nothing at the house. And then we started noticing more trees pushed over. And we haven't heard any sound, especially at the road gate for over a year. Or well, about one year exactly. Now at home, at the house, you would hear tree frogs occasionally. There's a wetland to our south, a creek to our north. And but all winter long, there was nothing. And then and I thought, okay, it's just the cold, right? Frogs don't like the cold, right? But then the other day it was 28 degrees and that's the coldest it had been in the area all winter. Tree frogs out. And I noticed that when you don't hear the tree frogs, you don't see any animals or deer or rabbits. They don't cross the road. They don't come through the yard. They're gone. I started hearing tree frogs. We see rabbits cross the road. We see deer cross the road. We see tracks in the yard. We've seen a bear track in our driveway the other day. But then the tree frogs are gone. And when when you don't hear the tree frogs, there's no animals moving anywhere. It's like it's they're all been run off. And you then you start seeing a tree at the gate that had been ripped off and they dug a hole to keep ATVs from going around the. Around the gate and that whatever whatever broke that off through that the top part in that hole on top of piece of debris that one of the. Loggers or whatever left in there. And next to it is a is a bush that's got limbs that are. Or an old tree they've cut down or whatever and it started to grow back in multiple places right there about two two and a half inches in diameter and they're just twisted off and broke off and you can tell they're just they're not completely broke off. They're still attached, but they're dead and broke off. And you can tell it's just been twisted and so. Yeah, there's. And I seen the. February 15th coming up one on one I was coming home from work at three o'clock in the afternoon. Listen to a podcast and I music makes me sleepy so I listened to. Book audio books or podcast or whatever and and so I was listening to a podcast and I just happened to glance over to my left. And so. When I did there's I had to take a double look there there. I seen what I thought was a big foot Sasquatcher walking away from the highway about 50 yards off the highway. Now I shoot bows a lot. So I can judge distances pretty well so I can say with all confidence it was about 50 yards 55 yards off the off the highway. And it was walking away and so I tried to rationalize it was a stomp it was a shadow. But stumps and shadows don't swing their arms. And that's what caught my attention was the movement of a walking away and when I look back over my shoulder I could see the right arm swing back. So the next day me and the wife came home about the same time and so we started we slowed down started looking are there any stumps are there any shadows anything's going to cast. Something that would prove that this wasn't what what I thought I saw. And there's nothing out there it's just a nice clean was right that's been planted the brush is not growing up there's no there are stumps but nothing that tall or nothing that would show that kind of shape. So I know what I saw and it was moving and it was walking upright on two legs. This happened within the past year around Shelton Washington. Yes. Yeah all this activity that you know from the from the time we moved to Shelton in February of 2025 until here and it continues to happen. They cut down trees along the road to keep it clear right and all these when we first moved in we're all off the road they're all pushed back in the trees. And it's a tree about four inches in diameter at the base and it's probably about 10 feet long that it's not in the road but it's push it's thrown out into the edge of the road. The last few few weeks probably three weeks I say the last week we started hearing frogs again. So it's probably about two weeks before that I started noticing it's a dirt road with the rock on it you know the rocks they call them Washington potatoes out here because they just come up out of the ground. And these are about the size of both my fists that will end up in the middle of the road and there's they weren't there before and there are a lot of them all along there. They just like something's throwing them out in the road can't say for sure. But I leave it at around 4 4 30 in the morning to go to work and you don't see them on the road when you come back they're in the road or vice versa right. You leave you come back at night at in the evening from work and there's none in the road and then you leave in the morning and you can see these big rocks in a road. I just find it extremely interesting that all these rocks one or two I could explain away as they're working their way up out of the ground and you drive over them and it pops them out but 15 or 20 and I pick them up and throw them off side of the road and they'll be back. It's definitely some weirdness going around and then you combine that with you actually had that that sighting and do you have an approximate date for when this sighting happened. Yes I know exactly when it was 2015. 2015 at. 2015 is February 15th Saturday February 15th at about 25 afternoon. 2026 that's right 2026. So within. Yeah. Really within the last three weeks. Wow. Yes. What would you estimate the height of it was from what you saw. 9 to 10 feet from the distance of 50 yards. It would have been had to been about nine or 10 feet tall. And I so I come home and I I talked to my wife and I don't know if I really seen it and she's able to describe it so I did. And so I know what I seen and so I was looking through pictures and I've seen photographs of a Sasquatch walking away was on a hill in the snow. And it was from three quarter view from the left side and you can see the left arm swing back. And that's exactly what I seen from the opposite side so I would have seen it from the right side looking over my left shoulder. So I have no doubt that that's what I seen. I was kind of questioning it and then as I was looking through photographs or videos of other podcasts and yours. And I come across this picture and it was the exact shape and movement that I seen. So I have no doubt that's what it was. And what really convinced me is I know I've seen the arm movement and I could say OK it was a shadow or something even seen the picture but shadows and and stumps don't swing their arms. Remind me approximately how far away from your your house property this sighting was again. It's probably two miles as a crow flies six miles up around the road. And it was headed towards the house away going towards the house. You've also seen a rock weird rock placement. You've got broken trees and and weirdly placed trees and you said that you you're seeing stuff that looks like it's twisted. Like broken twisted. Did you say that. Yeah. Yeah. That's up by the gate. Fresh break is about eight feet off nine feet off the ground. And just to the left as you're looking at it to the left of it is is a it might be a I think what it is is where they've logged off the tree and it started coming up from the roots. So you have different tree branches coming up right different young saplings coming up. And they're about two two and a half inches in diameter and they're they're broke off at a 90 degree angle which you can tell they were twisted and broke off because it's not a clean. In EMS we call it green stick fracture right where it peels off right and you have the part of it still sticking up. It's just twisted. You can tell they just twisted it off. It was green when they did it. And they did it. It was twisted and broke off. And there's three of these on this this group of saplings growing up out of the stump. And so it doesn't really sound like you have any neighbors around your area. No, no, the nearest neighbor is up at the hard road and about a quarter of a mile down. So we're a mile off the hard road. So there's there's no. Okay. So there's no anywhere you could be like, Hey, you know, you experience it. And weird stuff too. I mean, that guy would be too far down the road. Yeah, there's there's there's people that access the road from farther farther past our house a couple miles past our house and they right up down the road on their motorcycle. They're off road motorcycle or their ATV or whatever. But how they're getting on. I don't know. They're there a couple miles away from us and they're coming across timber company property to get to access that road. So the timber company does come back in that area to cut, right? It's it is an active working forest. So they do come back there and cut on occasion. But nothing around us. So that's what I'm saying. There's no equipment coming back there. They're not coming to with a road grader or anything to drag this tree out in the road or they're not maintaining the roads or so nobody's bringing any heavy equipment and that could break off these trees or push them over. So some of them are back three, four, five feet off the road and you can as you can see that they're just pushed over. So we went to last September, September of 2025. The last road out on the left is a cut cut away back into the to the woods and we don't know how far it went. We took our pickup truck down there and there are two trees pushed over across the road. So that are I'm saying 12 inches at the base that are pushed over in the road to block the road off. I'm but they're pushed over and there's other trees right there. A lot of other trees right there that if it was a wind blowing through there, my wife said, well, it got pushed over. They pushed it over with a bulldozer. Well, there's no tracks of the bulldozer. There's no way bulldozer can get back there. There's nothing there. They're still green because part of this the stump is still in the dirt where they pushed it over. And that's a heavy area for the ATVs to ride. And that was the first time we went down there and I don't know where it goes because the trees were blocking the road. We couldn't go across. If you're on a mini back, you could or something, you know, you can go around to drive over the very tips of them. But we wouldn't get across in in a pickup truck. Trees are just too big. Okay. So, man, I got a few questions. What would you say the closest to the house you've noticed activity or stuff that's weird has been happening? So, closest to the house at the end of the driveway comes into the to the login road and right at the end of the driveway, these, like I said, there's several big rocks, you know, like said, big as two of my fists in the road. And they weren't there three weeks ago. And when I came back home one day that there they are. Nothing has happened on the property that I know of. We got scratches on the back of our barn about eye level. And a friend came out and said that that's what we thought too was that it was a mountain line. Now we got chickens. Nothing ever eats the chickens. It's whatever is there is not bothering us. And actually we kind of think that it's keeping other things from bothering us because all along the back of the garage, it's a. 10 sided. There's there's scratches in every panel all the way down. And so a friend of mine said that it was a mountain line. We've never found tracks. I put up trail cameras never caught anything on the trail cameras ever. But the scratches like said they're at eye level and I'm I'm five nine five 10. And so they're at my eye level all the way down side there that that is unusual. But I can chalk it up to maybe a mountain line. I don't know what else will do it. But in the north end of the barn, there's a gouge and it goes horizontally. It wasn't what none of these were there when we moved in. We got chickens with a they always go around behind the barn. So we're always back behind the barn all the time. And we just started noticing this stuff. There's a gas or something had stuck a claw or something a knife. I don't know in the side of the barn and ripped about a foot long gas in this in the side of the aluminum. I don't know what would have done it. I don't we don't have it was never there before. Like said, we just bought it in February and so we looked when we got there. We looked all over. So looked over everything and all this stuff is new stuff. But the strangest things we noticed was probably less. It's a it's a mile to the hard road, right? So maybe two tenths of a mile is where from the house from the driveway is where we seen that big tree broke off at the top about 10 feet high. And that was that's what opened our eyes to say, hey, something's out here that and it was a fresh break. Something's out here that's doing this. And then we started noticing the old trees that had been pushed over and then a lot of new trees. And it's it's just a continuing thing. But nothing at the house. I've seen big and we have a small real tiny river rock all around the front of the house. And I've seen impressions there. But I've seen prints for a mountain line there too. So I I don't know what it is. There's nothing definite, right? It's just a large impression. I'm not going to speculate to what it could be. But we don't we go outside. We don't feel any. You know, we're not afraid to go outside. It's not like the there's any threat out there to us. You know, we're in the hot tub a lot. Okay. And nothing has ever bothered the house or the property that we know of. So, man, this is a really, really interesting one. So was it February 26 or earlier that you purchased the property? It was February 2025. Okay. It was on Valentine's Day that we purchased the property in 2025. And it was it was early summer that we started noticing all this stuff early early last summer, like June, July, that we when we noticed that big tree broke over and then we started noticing more trees and then just. It's not every day, but but at least once a month you see a new tree pushed over. You know, rocks in the road that, you know, if it was one or two, like said, I could justify it or I could explain it away as the us driving over it would kick up or work up a rock, you know. But not 20 or 30 all along the road. You know, it's just and we don't have, like said, there's a. A mini bike or an ATV that comes through there occasionally, but mostly it's just me and my wife that are driving in and out. So, occasionally the game board and comes through there. You know, the logging company will check it rarely, but it's mostly it's just me and my wife coming in and out of the out of the road. So. Has your life experienced anything weird? I would imagine there's times when you're off at work and she's on the property by herself, correct? Yes, yes. No, she hasn't reported to me that anything in that regards, there's been some instances that, you know, somebody was shooting out there way too close to the house or something like that. But no, she hasn't reported anything to me. And as she goes out most of the time feeds the chickens a lot of time, especially in the wintertime we get home. After dark and she'll go out there and feed the chickens and. Like I said, we leave the chickens out a lot of times and not overnight, but during the day and nothing. It's just a small chicken coop with a small run. It's just wire. So anything that wanted to get that big would want to get to the chickens could have, but there's like said there's no indication other than that. So then the scratches on the side of the barn of anything even attempting to disturb anything. So my daughter's been out there. She she's not reported anything. She lives in Aberdeen, but. But she comes out occasionally and watches the place where we're gone and she's not reported anything. It's just me and my wife will be driving to or from work and she'll say, Hey, is that tree new or is that said? Yeah, that's new. You know, I watch for things that are the change that are different that aren't there are out of place. The nature of my job, you know, that's just training, you know, or habits, right? You notice things that shouldn't be there or. Or out of place there are different. They're different. They're absolutely. Have you looked to see if there have been sightings in the past or interactions with Bigfoot in the area that you're at now? Yes, I did do do a little bit of research here right before I as I come across your your podcast. And it seems like this area is has been pretty heavy. Panhandle Lake, there's been a lot around Panhandle Lake up at Hood Sport is north of us. And there's a lot of a lot of stuff around there. Of course, we're right at the foot of the Cascade Mountains. We see them the Cascade or not the Cascade Mountains, but the Olympic Mountains on the way home. So we're right at the the foothills, I guess of that because we're surrounded by I wouldn't call them mountains, but tall hills in Illinois in southern Illinois. They call them mountains, but around here they're just small hills down. So yeah, there's there has definitely been some sightings because we're the last residents on that road on that hard road for miles and there's nothing but Timber Company land out there, nothing. Oh my goodness, it just it it feels like you are about to. I just got a weird feeling. It feels like you're about to experience some some really interesting. I mean, you already are experiencing interesting stuff, but I mean, I'm just taking in consideration like I know that the snowpack is really down this year. And so unfortunately, there's my guess is is probably going to be some fires up where you're at. I know Lake Cushman got hit really hard last year. And yeah, the most activity I've experienced out in Oregon have been when there was there was a fire that was nearby down the Willamette. And man, I just I'm wondering like if if there's some fires that kick up in your area and then they it starts moving around and like I'm just like, man, what kind of activity could come come out of nowhere for you guys? Well, you know, it could. I think a lot of these there. I speculation to myself, right? That when we lived in Yel, there was nothing there and then there was and then nothing. They're nomadic. They go where the food is, you know, and I for whatever reason, it seemed like they wintered over here. But if there is fires and things that a great possibility that the interactivity is going to go up, you know, people are going to have more interactions, especially us being out where we are. And it seems the that in my case, I've heard on on your podcast and others that, you know, people are more susceptible to this and it seems like it's increasing. It's more intensive. Intensive now since I'm out here and it just seems like it's continuing to grow because I never had a sighted never had a sighting until three weeks ago. Never had the type activity, you know, they keep an inch a little bit there, you know, very little at that. But out here, it seems like it's growing in intensity. So I think I'm going to start having more and more activity. Yeah. And it's like, it feels like in the more that you start noticing stuff and kind of putting your intention onto it. I think that kind of has something to do with it too. But it'll be interesting. I mean, I would say, you know, please keep keep us in the loop with if you continue to notice things like I can't even imagine what's going to go on in that property around October. I know. Yeah. Well, we we did notice. After you come off the the log and rode onto the driveway, we got a big rock and we found some pieces of metal laying up there that weren't there before. So a rusty nut and a flat plate with a hole in it. It's like, is this a did the the previous owners never said anything about it? Of course they wouldn't. They wanted to sell the place. But did they use that? Oh, sure. Rock or, you know, yeah, I don't know. So we're going to try something and see if we get a response. Now, I will say that I got a sling for Christmas, a balleric sling like David and Goliath sling. And I was slinging in into the trees behind the house and you find rounded stones and they fly the best, right? The plow was no. And then after that, I found rocks in the driveway from where I was throwing these things from that they were coming back out of the trees and into the driveway. And that was about a month and a half ago that I was throwing a mint out there and right after Christmas anyway, January, middle of January, I guess. And now I'm finding rocks in the driveway that weren't there before. We got a gravel driveway and so it's, you know, sharp edge, right? They're not good for slinging with the round rocks and which are plentiful out here, but not in the driveway. And now I'm finding in the driveway. So some of those rocks are coming back out of the woods. So you're saying that you are contemplating setting up maybe some kind of gifting situation? Yeah, I don't know if that's a good idea, but we thought about it. It's down at the end of the driveway. We got a gate at the end of the driveway and it's on the other side of the gate. Yeah. And it's rocks and I guess it's about a foot and a half. It's almost like a rounded cube of foot and a half by foot and a half. I would guesstimate and these pieces of metal were laying on top and so, and they weren't there before. We walked down the road, you know, so we go down the driveway. We walk past this rock all the time. And so we just found them this week. So we're going to, we're going to try it. Put some plums out or something. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And see what, see what happens. I had sent some rocks out on a stump. The previous owner carved a stump into the shape of like a mushroom and I put some, laid some rocks out there and a couple weeks later, they forgot about it. And then it's like, huh, where were those rocks are? Well, they're gone. I don't know. Maybe a squirrel or a bird got up there and knocked them off and I don't know. But anyway, they're gone. They were on the stump over by where the woods where I was slinging the rocks. And so, and this was last summer that I stuck them up there just to, you know, put them up there. I don't know. And they're gone. So I'm going to, I'm going to try the, the gifting rock thing. Yeah. It'd be interesting. You know, you're saying like plums or apples and they put a few of those up there to see what the reaction or response is. You know, if they're taken or a certain number taken. So how do you guys feel living in a potential situation like this? Are you feeling a certain way towards stuff that you're starting to experience? Curiosity more than anything. It's, I don't, like I said, I don't feel fear. I don't have a problem walking out into property, going to, going up to the chicken house, going to my shop, whatever. You know, there's a lot of times that I'll need something out of the shop to fix something at the house, especially in the wintertime. It's dark, right? In the evenings. We never felt any fear. We don't feel like we're into any threat of anything. So right now it's just curiosity to see what would, what's going to come down. Yeah, absolutely. Can I ask what your religious background is? Yeah, absolutely. I'm a Christian. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Raised into church, got away from it for a while, but now I am, you know, I see the way to the world. So I am full gospel, holy rolling, freakin' Jesus. That's great. Bless me. The most, so I've been in this for four or five years. And I would say for people that start to get into this subject and start to experience activity. One of the best pieces of advice I can give is to figure out what you put your trust in and make sure that you are actively trusting in that during this time. Because stuff can really start to happen and it can get really weird. But, you know, if you're, the name of Jesus is very strong and, you know, there's nothing more powerful than Jesus Christ for sure. So I think as long as you're able to keep that in mind, which you definitely are, I think that's, that's one of the most important things. But it can get very interesting. Well, other things, other things in our life have strengthened our faith. We had a little ultra light airplane as little tubular steel two place thing, right? And we thought it was going to be a ministry. The colors were red, black and white, you know, black for the sin washed by the blood and left us white as snow. And so we were going to try to use that. And we always said, if it doesn't work out, we'll praise him anyway. And it didn't work out. It crashed. The runway was rough and it stuck the elevator in the up position and I couldn't get it on. So I just slammed it on the ground and I ended up wrapping it around a railroad tie that had sticking in the ground to hold, to tie back a hanger door. And it just folded that little airplane around it. But we praise him anyway. So we found this place then and we wanted a place with a landing strip on our flat land, you know, so we can make a landing strip and then didn't work out. But our faith is just getting stronger. And so, yeah, that's where we put our faith in our trust. That's great. Thank goodness. Doug, this is really, really interesting one just because it's always, it always gets me like there's when I talk to someone where you can feel they're right in the middle of it. They are right in the middle of it right before things are going to either, they're either just be flat lined or they're going to like really ramp up like you, you know, it's kind of like you're going up a roller coaster. You have that weird feeling. I don't feel in every interview where I'm talking to, but sometimes you can just like tell you can be like, oh, man, yeah, it is like right there. It's very, very, very strange. But yeah, so I want to make sure that you're, you know, able to share all the things that you've experienced so far in this area out in Shelton. Yeah. If there's any other people that have experienced the stuff that you've had interviews with that want to contact me there that are close by. Yeah. Feel free to give them my information and maybe pass notes across to see what I think is going. Absolutely. And so your email is, oh, that's the wrong. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to get a different Doug. So your email that you provided, that's something that I can put in the description of the episode so people can reach out to you with that. Okay. Gotcha. That hotmail one. So I'll, so guys, look at the description and then email Doug directly because I get so many emails that is really hard to keep up with them. So your best bet is to contact. Yeah, Doug, thank you so much for coming on the show and for sharing what you guys are experiencing out there in Mason County and definitely keep us in the loop with what continues to happen the rest of the year. But thanks for hanging out today. Hey, thank you. Thank you for inviting me and I have a resource that I can go to look at other podcasts as which I've done to learn more about this to see. Maybe there's things that are happening that I'm missing that I didn't know that was part of the behavior or part of the ritual or whatever, whatever you want to call them, the things that they're doing that I'm just overlooking. 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