Why MRIs Are Misleading You | Dr. Mike Wasilisin | DSH #1880

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I can look at somebody's body mechanics and their age and I can accurately predict with statistical probability what the MRI is going to. You know what we can do when we're done? Yeah. I'll look at your body movement and I will predict what your MRI says. That's what? Yeah. It's my duty to help people. Realise that pain is a signal and nothing else. OK, guys. Dr. Mike from MoveU. Not even going to try the last name. You were close. Waslin. Waslin. You were closer. Maybe I should have tried out. Wasli-listen. Wasli-listen. Like Mississippi. Yeah, that's one of a kind, Master. Yeah, I know. Wasli-listen. I guess you got changed to customs. It was like Wasli-looski or something. Yeah, that's a long one. My new family, like, I'll whatever will take it, I guess. Well, welcome to Vegas, man. Dude, thanks, man. Helping people with their hair out. Yeah, of course. Met you one time before. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I want to spend the whole time helping you fix your shit. It's your back. Bro, I'm fucked up. I got you. You're young enough to actually make real changes now. Wow. Yeah, I lived on a farm before, and I always had the best time to plant a tree as 10 years ago. Yeah, I've heard that one. And for you right now, it's right now. You think I could still make some change? Dude, you can transform your life in 90 days. Really? In two weeks. Damn. I'm almost, I don't want to self-diagnose, but I feel like I'm almost at that chronic pain level lately. Yeah, well, it statistically will get worse if you keep doing what you're doing. If it is like, even if it stays the way it is, your body, our bodies tend to fall in about five misaligned patterns. They fall into too much rounding inflection. That's wonderful. They fall into a pattern of uneven hips, uneven shoulders. In the spine, does something called scoliosis. As a result of that, a kneel buckle and an ankle will go in and it will drop a hip down. Another contributor of scoliosis, who's in the hip drops down, the spine's got to go the other way. Interesting. The shoulder blade tilts forward, takes the back with it, and that's called wingy shoulder blade kyphosis. And then you have a forward head position. But our bodies tend to fall, and it's taking me so, to really simplify it to this, now, we can carry all five of these, but some people, most people have one that really stands out. Yeah. And then we measure that, and then you just simply inverse the pattern. That's it. That's it. If your body falls into flexion, then there's pieces of this. Your chest needs to tilt this way, your pelvis, the breath. We simply inverse it. And now what it does is it redistributes the force, because it's not like your back hurts because you have uneven pressure distribution. You have some of your pressure might be jamming just on your back right joint. And then on the disc above it, just on the front left of the disc, it's hitting the same wound every time. We have to just redistribute the force so the forces are balanced and centered. And when they're centered, your body, our bodies are self-healing organisms. Like if you're hurting a disc, your body's trying to lay down a dam right now to keep it from getting worse. But if you keep jamming into it, the dam can't be built. Your body's like, what the hell am I trying? But you're blowing the water out the other side. So when you realign and recenter these joints, your body heals itself. And that is also your strongest position. And so that's ultimately what we would do is take a look at just some simple movement patterns, help you see it, understand why your arthritis is there. Yeah. Remember, your arthritis, your disc, that is just the result of something. That's not the cause. The medical system thinks it's the cause. It's just not bad luck or bad genes. It's years of improper pressure distribution into these different areas. And when you can get that pressure off of that point and center yourself, it heals. I mean, I'm talking within a week, two weeks. Wow. My girl, Christy, shout out to Christy, one of my favorites. Spinal stenosis, she stands, pain down both legs, rounds forward through here, dis-pain down the legs. And she's pretty much bedridden. In two weeks, she's doing deadlifts, hip hinges, squats, tests, pain for two weeks. And she let this go for 20 more years than you. Wow. It's unbelievable how fast you heal and how much stronger you get just by properly positioning your body. It's exciting. Do you ever think about the risks you didn't take? Buying Bitcoin early, investing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA. AI is changing jobs. Markets are all over the place. Nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point, you realize no one's going to save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation. 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Is it from one ankle that rolls in and neither goes in? That can cause the whole thing. Sometimes one leg shorter. That'll cause all scoliosis. Mm. Is it, but even regardless of that, we just figure out which one of those five will help you make the biggest impact on it and improve it. And I've spent 25 years simplifying this into the most simple words I can. Shift, tilt, turn. I've got it down to those simple words now. And so like I'm trying to make it as fast and as simple as possible, but that's something that we, I'm committed to helping you if you're committed to improving. I am. Awesome. Yeah, cause it's affecting my livelihood at this point. It is, huh? You know, I'm waking up with a wicked pain. Yeah. It could be my sleep posture too, I think. Yeah, that wouldn't be a cause. Yeah, it wouldn't be a cause. It doesn't necessarily help. Yeah. What do you feel it mostly? Right now, let me think about it. I'm just so used to the pain. Is it back? It's definitely back, yeah. Sometimes it's upper, sometimes it's lower, sometimes it's neck. Yeah. Yeah. The curve is near the top. My scoliosis is to the left top of my spine. So you're six foot seven? Six, six, yeah. Let me ask you, how do you feel about being tall? I love it. You good? Okay, that's great to hear. Cause some people get the psychological stuff that they feel they're too tall and then they'll, Really? Yeah, I didn't know that. All of the hunched down, poor confidence, Wow. And so like to help get in position, but if they don't love it. Yeah. Well, I do slouch. Sure. I've slouched my whole life. Right. Like in public school, I was the biggest sloucher. I was the shortest kid in class when we sat down actually. Well, you know what happens is the whole world is built for a five foot eight individual, five, eight, pretty much everything. And so we're I'm six, four, you're six, six. And so it's not that everything's built for smaller people. It doesn't mean that we have to succumb to those. We just have to be aware of how we need to move and adjust our bodies based on our height. And also these things that we're sitting and moving on and these low hanging doorways and watch out for that ceiling fan. Right. And so that's great. You love being tall because you're going to gain another inch. Really? Oh, for sure. You're getting one more inch. I would love to be six. We measured it before people. I had a kid recently, he had flat feet and we measured his parent, well he gained one inch by lifting his arch up. What? He's like 13. You know, he's finding his kids 13 years old, right? And he has no pain, but his feet collapse and his knees collapse in. He's on like ACL risk, MCL risk. How do you convince a 13 year old? I'm like, in 20 years, I'm like, that ain't going to work. You'll be faster. He's like, I literally went through the whole bag of trips. In there, like number 18, I said, you'll be taller. And his dad is like, he grabbed that one. That's the one. That makes sense. Yeah, that's the one. That does make a lot of sense. I go, all right, all right. So yeah, the world's not built, it's more challenging for us because it's not built for us, but it's not an excuse to succumb to it. We have to be in control and aware of our body position so that we can make the best out of those, the way the world was built. Because it's built for small people. Yeah, I mean, you've seen thousands of people or do taller people have more issues for the most part? I don't know if I've ever, I don't know if I've ever come to that conclusion. Okay. I really don't know if I, I've thought about that to taller people more issues. I hear a lot of tall people complain about back pain. And usually I would be statistically, and I always play with statistical probability. What my premise of what I do is built off of a, it's from the Prague School of Rehab. And it's a term, this phrase called joint centration, which means optimal position of a joint. Meaning like whenever you're back, the weight should be distributed between your joints and your disc, front to back, side to side. And the weight in your knee. Like when you stand, the pressure should be on your knee. And so I look at the body and that we would generally call that biomechanics. Meaning like your body is designed from the factory. And we're all about 90 some percent the same, by the way. Everyone thinks they're so different, they're really different. Your body from the factory is designed like your vertebra, like for you particularly, like your vertebra are actually in the disc or actually fatter in the front than the back to give you your natural curve. So your body's like designed to have a natural curve in the back. But when you slouch over time, it starts, you're actually pushing into the structures in a way they weren't designed and it'll cause the disc to wear out first. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take? 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Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com slash dsh. Today to get started at selectquote.com slash dsh. Just like it'll wear the inside of a car tire out because it's out of balance. And so everything I do is built on the laws of biomechanics and the point is when somebody's tall, if we know that the average kitchen counter height is made for somebody five foot nine, that person either knows how to hip hinge to go down or they're just gonna slouch into it. Yeah. And so those people taller would definitely be more likely to carry more around in this if they're not moving properly cause they're improperly slouching down. Airplanes. Airplanes, airplane seats are too low for us. Our knees are up really high and then they're up high and it forces us into this more rounded position. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those are the worst. Flying. Can be the worst. What's your strategy? What's your strategy? Say you're flying economy. What's the right approach? Okay, good question. What I travel with, Katie always laughs and I like travels. She's laughing over there cause I literally traveled like with this whole kid. She's always so embarrassed cause I like whip it out on the plane. I like hold up everybody. So number one, I put a thin cushion down. The seat cushions, first of all they're hard and they're like that plastic. So if somebody pukes or shits on the seats, you know they can wipe it off easy. But you slip forward on those seats. So I bring like a thin cushion to put on the seat. And number two, just like these anthros chairs that we're in by the way, best chair on planet, you're welcome to the free plug anthros. The cushion is, and they have something on here called pelvic support as you know, but I always bring something for, to place, to push my sacrum further forward. But the cushion under your butt, it actually should be a little closer to your knees. If you follow me, if you're sitting on an airplane chair, check this out, you're sitting on the plane. Your butt is trying to slide forward. But if you put a little wedge underneath your little cushion, it'll block the hips from sliding forward. Got it, okay. With this pelvic support. Like those two are crucial. Then I have like these nice little cushions that go into armrest. These are just little upgrades. These are little upgrades I use. But those two pieces are the most important for you. Okay. And for everybody. I'll start bringing them. Yep, two pieces. I have the seat one at my office chair, but I don't bring it on the plane. Something thin too. I use the purple, have you seen the purple one? The memory foam? It's not thin, so maybe I'm using the wrong one. If you can carry it, some of this is big. I'm always dealing with like carry on limited space. So thinner, but definitely, sometimes I'll even put the neck rest cushion behind the neck. The neck pillow? I use that for my pelvic support. Yeah. You know what I use for my bottom, anything I bought though? I use keyboard for a mouse. There's like the little wrist pads. There's a couple thicker ones. I use that one right now. Interesting. Yeah. A lot of simple setup. I'll text you the info. Yeah, sweet dreams. I'll help you get set up. Please. I cannot sleep on planes. You will improve very quick. Nice. Yeah, I could see what's going on with you. I just need to, I need you to be able to see it. And then I'll help you understand why it's causing your pain. And you're gonna feel hope. I love that. You're gonna feel hope. Yeah, when I got my MRI, I did not feel hope. So I need that. Need that. And I don't even, you know I've only sent two people for MRIs in 10 years. You're not a fan of them? No, it was a show shit. It shows shit on everybody. Shouldn't you know what you're working with though? I don't need to. Because I can look at somebody's body mechanics in their age and I can accurately predict with statistical probability what the MRI is going to, you know what we can do when we're done? Yeah. I'll look at your body movement and I will predict what your MRI says. No way. I can do it with very high accuracy. Wow, that's impressive. So I think it often takes an unskilled clinician. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, and besting after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA? AI's changing jobs, markets are all over the place, nothing feels guaranteed. And at some point you realize no one's here. I'm gonna save you. We're kind of the FOMO generation. But here's one thing you don't wanna miss, protecting your future. If you're new to life insurance, you're not alone. Thankfully, I found select quote. For over 40 years, they've helped more than 2 million Americans understand their options and secure over $700 billion in coverage. As a broker, their mission is simple, to find you the right insurance policy at the best price. And they work for you for free. You can even get same day coverage up to $2 million with no medical exam required. And even if you have pre-existing conditions, they work with companies that can help. Life insurance is never cheaper than it is today. Get the right life insurance for you for less and save more than 50% at select quote.com slash DSH. Save more than 50% on term life insurance at select quote.com slash DSH. Today to get started at select quote.com slash DSH. To need an MRI. That makes sense, the medical system. They don't look at movement. Right. They just go, MRI says this, this, this. Every area of the body, Sean, every area of the body, shoulder, back. You can find huge study out there that MRIs, 500 people, 2000 people with no pain, none. Average 40 year old, 80 to 97% of them have diagnoses but no pain. We all have things on there. It doesn't necessarily mean it's linked up with the pain you have. I have client recently. She had a whole disc surgery, cut off her disc, did all this stuff. She still was pain. I go, yeah, because the issue was never your disc. It was your SI joint the whole time. Wow. But the MRI said disc, they just cut the disc off. Holy crap. So the MRI is only a part of it. And honestly, it's not even, it scares people more than anything. It did scare me. I'm not gonna lie. It is the gateway drug, medical systems gateway drug to link you into the system. Yeah, that's concerning. And then they wanna proceed with surgery half the time. Yeah, my medical doctor friend, Dr. Diane, she goes, the MRI is for the surgeon to know where to cut. Wow. So if you don't plan on surgery, but it's like, we went up, it's like, you may as well, I wanna know what it is. Yeah. I'd be more interested with you going, what's causing my pain? The MRI is not an effective tool, a necessary tool to give you that answer. And I talk with neurosurgeons on this stuff. They also, they're not trained with this stuff either. Oh really? They're impressed with it. They go, it makes sense, but they're not trained on that. And so this body mechanics, biomechanics, like looking at how posture and movement cause it, it is a skill that truly most people, it's not taught in PT schools, it's not taught in carol school. That's crazy. I know man. Super crazy. It's not in there. I know that's your past life, the chiropractic work. Yeah, it is. I'm still a, I guess I'm still a licensed chiropractor. I don't need my, every year I come down here, I go, I get it 24 hours a year, see, I go, I just got out of a class, how to do like proper note taking. I go, I haven't taken a note in 10 years. You don't need to, AI does it for you. I go, I haven't taken a note in 10 years. AI does it on your zoom calls though. Yes, I'm just at the back of the classroom. They want whatever back there. Yeah, just doing the deed. Do you know Ronnie Coleman is? Bodybuilder. Bodybuilder who cannot walk anymore. It's sad to see. What? I've heard about this. I want to connect you with him. I can help him. Yeah, he's in a wheelchair. He was a Mr. Olympia, I believe for like eight years. Some people consider him the goat of the sport. And since he retired, he's can't even walk. Can't even walk. Fusions in the spine. Fusions are tough. Yeah. They're old school, old, old procedure that there's now disc replacements, facet replacements that allow you to keep your motion. Fusions just lock it in place. I go, if it's an apocalypse, I can make a fusion kit. Literally, it's like a rector set bolts. Geez. And the problem with fusions is it bolts down an area of your spine, two vertebra three. And now the reason that these people even needed to begin with is because their mechanics are so off. Maybe Ronnie, it was off 2% for 20 years. That's the way I look with CrossFit. If you're a CrossFit hurts people, CrossFit will accelerate. It will add force to this misaligned pattern you have and will accelerate. What likely was going to come later. But then this fusion, like for Ronnie, for example, let's say it was disc or for you if you ever had a fusion in your back. Well, your back is you flexing around into this position and it wears out the disc. So what they, the surgeons basically, they don't know they're saying this, but they're like, you can't figure out how to hold your spine in the right position. So we're gonna bolt it in place for you. But you get out of surgery, you still move the same exact way you did before. But now you have two, three vertebrae that are fused together. So now your body gets the segment above the blow-dweb. And that one has got to now go two times as hard as it was in the wrong position as it was before. Geez. Do you ever think about the risk you didn't take buying Bitcoin early, best thing after 2008, loading up on NVIDIA? 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Save more than 50% on term life insurance at selectquote.com slash dsh today to get started at selectquote.com slash dsh. That's why each one of those wear out. It's the truth. Sounds awful. I know. That's why these stats up where 20% of people that have a disc herniation surgery, up to 20% in some studies show that it comes back the same year. Oh my gosh. Cause then the movement's not fixed. Wow. You're not treating the cause. No. You're just cutting the symptom off. Yeah. And so I see it all the time. And then when you cut that symptom off, now you got a big gaping hole. Cause the bulge is actually part of the disc material that kind of like makes like a, like an outer bulge. And now they slice that whole thing off. So you basically have like your open wound and they try to put mash and stuff in there. But now you've an open wound where the material can go out even, it's even weaker. Wow. I know man. That's what I literally left the healthcare profession in 2017. I go, I can't even be in this. I don't blame you. I can't even be in it. This whole system just pulls people in and, they're trying to get the most amount up to your business. Trying to maximize. Yeah. You got to get, you want repeat customers, right? You think they're trying to help people fix their shit? Hell no. Hell no. An average person, when I was reading with PPO insurance, you enter the healthcare system through the gateway drug, X-ray MRI. Yeah. That's like, that's like your first hit of weed. Oh, well, I don't think weed's a gateway drug. It might be. I like TSC, so I say it's not. I'm a fan, but I could see the argument. Yeah. But it is like, that is worth, that client is worth $800,000 to $1.3 million to the healthcare insurance for the lifetime of your back. I can help you fix your shit for, you know, you go through the work and a fraction of that. It's not a good business model. Yeah. No, you would, if there were thousands of you, you would put them out of business technically. And that's what I was talking to this neurosurgeon, I really like, shout out to Dr. Jared Amet, really big fan of this guy. He's like, he does these, I'm like, you really think we can work together? Why? So you can send me people and then now they don't need you anymore. How's this going to work? Yeah. And he's giving, he's like, no, I think you're going to help me, the people, definitely it can't, it doesn't work for you. Then they're ready for this. And I go, all right, dude, I was starting to like this guy, he's a good dude. So he's actually sending you people? I'll shoot you out. You should listen to the podcast that I did with him. It was my best podcast. Really? Yeah. I just, I just launched a soft launch. I'll shoot over to you. Yeah. Give it a listen, man. Yeah. Where's he based out of? He's up in LA. Oh, okay. Your LA's got some good shows. What else we got here? Man, you are, I wish I had a full hour with you, man. I love your energy. How are you doing? Are you always this locked in? Huh? Are you always this locked in? I'm just pumped, man. I know I have a developed a skill set. I truly was like given a gift that I've had. And I just go, it's my duty to help people realize that pain is a signal and nothing else. It's not bad. It's not a negative. It is a true signal and your body's telling you something needs to change. And the people get a shot in their back, your core is in a shot. Oh, I can't feel my body trying to talk to me anymore. So I'm gonna go back to doing what I was doing before that caused my body to start talking to me and degenerate my body to faster rate because I can't feel it anymore. Like these symptoms are really, they also tell you're alive. They're the real, these are to be listened, these symptoms are to be listened to. And understood they're meant to teach you. Even my clients that I work with, they have setbacks are sad at first. There's always a lesson in them. Yeah. I'm on Chris's teach, she's all sad. So setback, we look at it. She didn't put her warm up program in. She did not set her body in position for the day and she tried to do something that her body wasn't ready for. Like there's the lesson. There's always a lesson in it. It's a growth mindset to understanding your own body. Absolutely. Not just one of fear and avoidance. Yeah, it can be. It has people in trouble. Yeah, it can't be living in that mindset. Right. That's what they want you. Are you feeling that mindset with your back? Fear. Fear. Well, I'm aware of fear. So I try not to be, but maybe subconsciously. I mean, after that MRI definitely was a little on edge. I know that's deep within my subconscious at this point. So, but this was great guys. Stay tuned for a part two. We're gonna do it while we're getting adjusted or something. So stay tuned for that. Adjusted. That's the least thing you need. Yeah, I need some deeper shit to matter. Hell yeah. Some shit that you can learn on your own and you could practice this throughout the day. Adjustments can be nice little things to get you some quick movement and some quick relief, but it won't, it's like holding an ice cube. It just melts and you go, now what? You need some skills that you like, connect with your mind. Yeah. Hit in your body. I need that. You go, oh, I got that. Yeah, in between episodes, if I could just Oh yeah. Quick little thing. And then you're like, now one rung permanently up the ladder rather than worrying about falling off again. Right. Yeah. Did you sure footing on each step? Thank you. I got you dude. Thanks. Stay tuned guys. All right. We're gonna do a part two. Stay tuned. Thanks. Thanks for watching to the end guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode. If you agree, if you disagree, I'd love to hear, I read every single comment. It means a lot to me. 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