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You don't do many podcasts, so thanks for coming on. Of course, this is two years in the making. I remember you messaged me years ago. It's like years ago. If I ever ended in Vegas, sure. But now you're here. Yeah, you didn't come to Vegas, but I came to you. Don't want to gamble in Vegas or? I lose a lot of money. I'm from there, actually. I don't gamble. It's a bad idea. Yeah, locals should not gamble. I tell that to anyone that thinks about living there. Bad karma. Destroy you. But how was your night yesterday? You had a long night? You had a long night too. Yeah, slept at 12 and got up at four. I have not slept yet. I ended up at my first orgy. I don't even I don't even know how to begin on that one. Great time. Good experience. I had fun with the cat that was there just in the corners. You weren't participating? I'm a little shy, but I was there. I was in the presence of it happening. Was it planned or just? No, spontaneous. All lesbians, too. Really? No men. They were all sober or walk me through the? No, no. Do you know what flitch is? Flitch? Flitch. No. It's like the lesbian event of the month. It's like the only gay thing that we have. Flitch. And what happens at these? Just a lot of lesbians come in. I've been to Fudge so many times. I've never had no. I don't even I don't know. I don't know. Like I said, I haven't slept yet for having a great time. Overspec for common because I don't know if I could pod on a. They say you're a little drunk when you don't sleep. I believe that I didn't drive here. I Ubered. So we're good. That makes sense. But yeah, they say you're something to do with the brain chemistry. Like you're like slightly drunk. Yeah, like it's actually more dangerous to drive while like tired than it. Not more dangerous, but about equally as dangerous. You're the fun fact queen. They come out randomly. Yeah. You know so many fun facts. I remember watching your videos years ago because you've been doing this for a while. It's been like seven years. Yeah. I feel like I watched you like five, six years ago. How long have you been making content? Three. Okay. Three years. So you were making content before me and used to have the craziest facts. I straight up would just read them online. I would just be like, oh, that's interesting. Let me tell it to the world. And I'm 10 million views. Really fast and loud in my bathroom for some reason. The format was, yeah, it was so natural. Right. You were just in your bathroom. Like here's a fact. I didn't like recording with my front facing camera because like I had acne, but if I recorded it in my mirror, I felt more confident. Oh, that's why I did it. That's why I did it. Actually it was an insecurity thing. Wow. Did you take Accutane? I take Medicaid, not Accutane, but I do take medication though. Yeah. I had bad acne growing up. I was on Accutane. Yeah. My brother's on Accutane. It sucks. I didn't look in the mirror for like years when I was in high school. Your skin looks really good though. So it works. Yeah. It's better now. I mean, it worked physically, but it destroyed me internally. Yeah. You know, some side effects to it. I feel that. But yeah, I didn't look in the mirror for years. So like I would brush my teeth and have toothpaste all over my mouth. And kids wouldn't tell me at school. Damn. Yeah. So I was just walking around with toothpaste all over my mouth. Because acne isn't even really like, it's not like it's not attractive. Like somebody, if somebody likes you, they're not going to be like, oh, but you got acne. Like, it's sad that it's in insecurity. If it's bad acne. I still don't, like, if I'm attracted to somebody and they have acne, like I'm not even looking at it. Really? So have you been with someone with really bad acne? I wouldn't say really bad acne. Because I know, but I don't think it would be a deterrent for me. So it's not a deal breaker. What is? What is a deal breaker? People who don't use their blinkers when driving. I think that I would lose my shit. Yeah. That would give me anxiety, actually, to be honest. So that's your biggest deal breaker. Oh, it's one of them. Slow walkers is another one. Same. Bad hygiene. Agreed. I think people just don't know their own space, probably. Yeah, personal space is important. What about height? I have no issues with that. I've dated short girls. I've dated tall girls. Wow. No preference. We're still figuring it out. Okay. Yeah. Height for me, I don't think I could go taller. You're pretty tall. Yeah, I'm tall. I knew you were tall, but then I saw you in person. I was like, oh, God, he's actually tall. 6'6". Yeah. What are you? 6'2". That's tall for a girl. It is tall for a girl. You're tall for a guy, though. So it was like, hello. Would you rather be doing some weird questions right now? Would you ever wear heels? Would you put them on just to see how big you could get? No. I think it's kind of like, I don't know. When I put on 6'6", I'm 6'8". And it's a pretty good time. You're taller than me. Oh my God. 6'8". I don't know. Guys pulling off heels, you think that's the thing? I met a guy last night that was, I think he's 6'4". He was wearing heels last night and I was like, dude, how are you making it around right now? He was really big. Holy crap. He was at this fudge event? He was at an event before. I went to a birthday party before and he was there. So that was separate. I don't think guys at fudge. Oh, so it's only lesbians. Yeah. What if you're a gay guy? I mean, you could probably go, but you're not going to have a great time because there's no gay men there. Really? Gay men have their own spaces. Like LA has so many gay bars. There's not really any lesbian bars. Oh, so it's a bar. No, it's an event. So we take over, like, gays have their bars, lesbians take over their bar for a night and we have a lesbian night, but there's no, like, lesbian bars. I found one recently called Untamed Spirits. Untamed Spirits. Highly recommend. It's a sports bar. A lesbian sports bar. The first one I found. But don't lesbians go to gay bars? Yeah, because there's no lesbian bars. Okay, so you want just a lesbian bar? Yeah, it's like, love gays, love the community, but like being around lesbians is just a different experience. It's a different vibe. What's it like? I've never done it. It's very pretty. There's like, there's, I don't even know how to describe it. I've never been to a gay bar either. Really? I get offered. Do you want to go? I would go just for like... Oh my god, I'm offering. I would go for the experience. You'd probably get free drinks. Really? Gay guys just give you free drinks like that? I get gay guys giving me free drinks and I'm like, you know, I'm a lesbian, right? And they're like, it's okay, I'm bi. And I'm like, I don't think it matters that you like men. That doesn't help me, actually. They probably think a lot of lesbian girls would go towards the guys too, right? Probably. Because they swing both ways? I mean, if they're asking, it probably has worked before. Probably, right? That's probably gonna work on me. Guys always do that shit though. You know, first girl they see, they'll offer them a drink. Yeah, but then if you go to a gay bar and you're a guy, you'll get a drink. Yeah, that'd be weird. I would turn it down, I think. Go to like a drag bunch or something. That's more like, it's less... A drag bunch? Drag brunch. Drag brunch. Yeah, so you get brunch and there's a drag queen just performing. Wow. It's more low-key than like going into a bar. You go to some interesting events. We're in LA. A drag brunch. So what are they doing exactly there? They're just, have you never been to a drag show? No. It's just somebody, it's just, it's a man in women's like performative outfits and then they just dance and sing. And like lip sync mostly, actually. Wow. I've seen the drag queen guy on the Traders. Have you seen that show? No. Okay, yeah. There's a drag queen show, I guess. And it was just some crossover. You can go and see them in real life and eat food. There's probably a ton of Vegas too. Vegas has all sorts of shows. I haven't been to Vegas in years. I need to go back. Do you have a, do you ever miss it? Or no? I do, but I think it's mostly nostalgia from like living there. And then I, it's just, I don't know if I could deal with the heat. And like, I got some family out there, but... The weather here is unbeatable. Yeah. It's, it's 90 in March. It was 90 in February, like... It's already really hot out there. When did you leave Vegas? In high school. Okay. Yeah. So your family was like, let's dip? The 2008 recession hit us pretty hard. So like my family got through it by cleaning four closed houses, which is crazy. Like somebody would lose their house and we got to keep ours because we would go and clean it for the bank. But eventually that slowed down and my dad found work in California. So he just moved us from Vegas to California. We have more family out here too. Is that when you got into social media? I got into social media in college, actually, which was also very strange. You went out here? I went to a community college, like Central Valley. How was it strange getting in then? Just cause like, I didn't realize I was going to blow up. And then all of a sudden like my classmates are like watching my videos in class. I can hear my voice. Like, I remember having to ask a teacher to skip a math test because Netflix contacted me and I was like, I have to do this. He was like, go for it. Oh, it was just like, it was a really weird time at that. Yeah, you blew up quick, right? How many months in did you blow up? Would you say? Uh, well, I got fired from my job at Best Buy in October. And two weeks later, I hit a million. And then every month after that, it was like another million, another million, another million. And this was before COVID. And so when COVID happened, it just, it skyrocketed. Wow. So we're growing a million every couple of weeks. And now you're like 20 plus, right? Something like that and dropping. Yeah, well, TikTok's dying. Yeah. It's been dead. Yeah. What are we moving to? What's the next platform? I just think it's short form in general. I'm not sure which platform, but I'm all in on Instagram and YouTube right now. I like Instagram. I wish they paid. Yeah, they paid terribly. Facebook's decent. Facebook's pretty good. But like Instagram will get like 30 million views a month. And it's like, oh, sick. I made 19 cents. Literally, literally. I get offered like, do you want the 5000 bonus this month? I'm like, you're just capping. I would take it. It's be us. They don't pay you that. But Facebook, I've seen some big, big, big payouts. Facebook can do pretty good. TikTok used to pay well. It used to. You probably lived off that, just that income, right? That was, yeah, that paid my rent pretty good. I was one of the first creators to actually start getting paid. They started with a small little group, and I was in that, which was really cool. And then it expanded. And I don't remember when it stopped paying so good. I think it when it stopped being like a creator program, it turned into like ad. Yeah, they always changed the name of it. It's confusing. When did it start going downhill? Was it quick or was it overnight? TikTok? I don't even think like, it's more like fluctuations. Yeah, like they all have like really good months and they'll have like really bad months. And it kind of flows. It's like a pendulum. It's going to come back. Yeah. Are you crushing it right now or are you out right now? YouTube's doing okay. TikTok's not. Facebook's doing okay. Snapchat's doing. Like if one platform's doing good, I don't know. You kind of get it. Yeah, yeah. I have certain months where I feel like the man and then some months I'm like, damn, should I keep... When did everybody go? Yeah, should I keep doing this? I'll get like shadow banned one month. You should keep doing this. Yeah, that's what I've realized. Even the bad months, it's all worth it in the end, I feel like. Especially if you keep posting consistently, the algorithm will reward you when the viewers come back in. They'll watch all this stuff, like your backlog, everything. 100%. How many times do you post right now? I try to post once a day, but I've been kind of, I started school. So I've been kind of... Oh, so you're still in school? I went back to school. Wow. I've been bad with it. Maybe three, four times a week at this point. Why'd you go back? Because it fluctuates. This social media stuff is very fragile. It's not stable. And if it ever went away, especially when they were threatening to ban TikTok, I was like, like, what am I going to do? Like, I don't have a degree. I don't want to go back and get a real job. I want to finish it. Yeah. I also have a lot of younger siblings, and they are like, they want to be a YouTuber. They're like, I don't want to go to school. I want to be a YouTuber. I'm like, okay, what if you could do both? Then I'm going to try and show them that you can do both. You can do it on one boat. 11 siblings, all right? Yeah. That is crazy. How many do you got? None. None? You're only a child? Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah, total different lifestyle, isn't it? I can't even imagine, and you probably can't imagine the other way around that. Yeah, I can't relate to it. I could imagine what it was like. It was probably hectic, and you probably didn't have a lot of personal space. Oh, no. I shared a room with four of my sisters. I'm the oldest girl. So like, every couple years, there was a new one coming into the room. Jeez. Your parents were going hard. Did that inspire you to have a lot of kids? I think I will be a really cool gay aunt. I'll be the rich gay aunt that lives in LA. I'll be awesome to my nieces and nephews. So it inspired you to have none. Yeah. Wow. Do you ever look at your bank account and feel like you're getting hit with fees for no reason? Like overdraft fees, monthly fees, ATM fees, just for using your own money? That's exactly why I want to put you onto something better. Chime is changing the way people bank. They're not like traditional banks that Nicol and Dime you with random charges. Chime gives you access to thousands of fee-free ATMs, and here's where it gets interesting. Chime members can earn up to 1,150 annual rewards, completely fee-free. If you set up direct deposit, you unlock the most rewarding way to bank with Chime. 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A little bit, yeah. Did you grow up slow? I grew up slow and quick. I think when the computer came out, I just went all in, you know. So I became an adult from there on. Started figuring out how to make money online. Dropshipping was hot at the time. Did you ever get into that? I did not. Friends that did that. Oh my God, that was hot like 10 years ago. So I pretty much became an adult once I started doing that. Making your own money. You know, support yourself. That's good. Yeah, similar to you in college. Feel like that's when you started making it, right? Yeah. Like I got put in foster care. I think when I was like 15. And so I kind of like, I grew up a lot then. Yeah. But it wasn't until college moving out on like my actual own, getting my own job. All that. Damn. Holy crap. I didn't know about the foster care. It was a fun time. Yeah. Actually, are you trolling? I think it was worth it to go. I wouldn't recommend it for anybody. I get a lot of people like asking like, how do I come out to my parents? Like don't. Because like what if I just have the fear of like, what if I tell you to do it? And then you also end up in the system. Like I usually tell people. Oh wait, that's why you got sent. Are you serious? Yeah. Holy crap. Religious family or? Catholic. Eleven siblings. That makes sense. Well, we're totally cool now. My parents are very accepting now. I just, it took some time. Wow. How long did it take for them to come around? Three years. Maybe four. Three years. Okay. So before you got into making money online. Yeah. Okay. They were actually, I started talking to them and then like, maybe like a month later, I blew up online. It kind of felt, I'm not like a spiritual person. It was like, oh, the universe is rewarding me right now. Like it kind of was like, oh, cool. Like, I don't know if that makes sense. Like I had my family and I was doing successful at the same time. When you say you're not spiritual, do you, you don't believe in God? I believe in God, but I don't know what it is. Okay. I'm not going to make any claims about it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I am. But I believe in, I don't know, something. I've just had too many experiences in life that make me think like, oh, there has to be something that the coincidences are too weird sometimes, you know? Yeah. But I'm not going to claim I know what it is. Yeah. So you're not a fan of organized religion? Oh, I just did a debate about this the other day. I think that's why. When I hit you up again, I think I saw you on the Dr. Daff, right? Oh, I've been loving that channel. Yeah. I just went, we did 20 liberals, one conservative. It was really fun. We did like, it wasn't 20 people talking at the same time. It would be like four would go up. The conservative would give their prompt. It'd be like, transgenderism is a mental illness. And then we would have to talk to her about it. Yeah. It was fun. I liked that format because on Jubilee it gets hectic. I did this surrounded on Jubilee too. And like that was, that was hectic. You got to run to the chair. I tried to run to the chair. So now Jubilee behind the scenes, Jubilee now makes people raise their hands like, oh, you're going to go, okay, pretend to run to the chair. But when I went, we were running. Somebody twisted their ankle and I'm just slow. I didn't make it to the chair. I was going to say, someone definitely got hurt doing that. Yeah. That's why they switched it. Yeah. That makes sense from a liability point. But I do like the Dr. Daff format. It is just interesting because it is a conservative platform and they keep inviting me back and I'm not because you bring in the views. There we go. Yeah. I think that's a great Jubilee counter though. I think it was needed. And what's really cool is it's all women. Yeah. It's like, it's all women talking. There's no other channel that's just all women just having a discussion. That's a good point. Yeah. So you did against the conservative. Is that one out yet? Not yet. I recorded it like last weekend. So it should be out maybe a month. I'm going to watch that one. What was crazy is after the fact, we learned that this woman was a flat earth earth. Now I think I know who it is. And I'm like, we kind of used that in it. Like, oh, you think that Donald Trump is doing a great job. You think the world is flat. Like, oh, you think being gay is bad. You think the world is flat. Like I would have just said it for everything. Like I wouldn't have responded to anything else. Do you know who it is going in beforehand? Okay. That makes it harder. Little bit. Because then you can't prep counters and. I mean, I kind of go in thinking, if I know what I'm going to talk about, I'm going to know. I'm not going to, I try to prepare a little bit, but nothing crazy. Yeah. So the prompts were like, no, she doesn't like gay people. She doesn't like trans people. She didn't like trans people. She was respectful about it, which is also interesting. Talking to somebody who's being respectful to your face, but also saying that like you have a mental illness. Yeah. The one we talked about was she said abortion is the killing of a human life. And at that point I was like, okay, like you believe the world is flat. But like. For abortion. Yes. I'm trying to think of the other one she said. She said five. I don't know. But at the end, they had the opportunity to do like a one on one. And they chose me for the one on one. They were like, do you have anything that you want to say? And I didn't. So I'm sitting there. Damn. You froze? There was 20 girls. I didn't think I was going to get picked. And my topic was I think organized religion is harmful or just religion in general, especially getting integrated into politics is extremely harmful. Christian nationalism. I think it's like Sharia law a little bit. You're that opposed to 100%. Yeah. I mean, you have experience growing up in that environment. So you just spoke on that basically. Pretty much. I tried my best and it was hard because she was like, well, I disagree. So how are we going to talk? And I'm like, I don't know. You picked me. So we're going to talk about it. Wow. What's your Christian? Yeah, I think we'll talk after I think I know who it is. That's crazy. So you really like the debates now, huh? I do. I like talking to people like I've been in my house just making videos by myself for so long. Going back to school, like doing the debates. I'm like, I kind of missed being around people and talking to people. What got you into that? Were you watching debates or were you kind of? Yeah. I mean, I did like public speaking in high school. So like, and I'm loud on the internet. Like, I'll just I'll say what I need to say. But it's just it is interesting like trying to understand where somebody is coming from on a completely different spectrum. Yeah. Yeah. You've always been out of spoken, which I respected because you you dealt with cancel culture at its peak. I did. Literally at the peak. I'm kind of glad I got an association when I did because I felt like cancel culture was irrelevant three, two, three years ago. Now it's like a bad. Does it still exist? It exists. But now it's like people don't take it serious. When you were going through it, like people were going hard. You know what I mean? I think it's because we were all still inside. It was like post COVID. Yeah. Yeah. What was that like though? Mentally, I'm sure that was insane. What's so like when the majority of people were watching me, I was not sleeping at all. Like I have major, major insomnia, which is crazy to think about now. It's like I was getting five million views a day and people didn't know that I was just like awake for 48 hours at that point. Totally making a random video like not. And so looking back at that time is interesting because it's like, OK, I was doing really good. Physically, not physically, like in the world, I guess, but like not. And so when I got canceled, it just got worse. Like not sleeping got worse. Yeah. But I think it worked out. I think it humbled me a bit. It made me better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think everything happens for a reason. I know that some people view that spiritually or whatever. I got a shirt that says that. Oh, you do? OK. So yeah, I view it literally. Like I think everything just happens for a lesson. You know? Where's my lesson? You can see it. And look at you now. Where's my lesson? You came out on top. There's probably a few lessons. One that I was thinking about in the car because I'm not getting canceled again, but I just get constant hate. It doesn't bother me anymore. I'll have some days that it does because hormones, but it really doesn't anymore. And I'm like, when did that switch happen? Because he used to really bother me. Same. Yeah. One little comment from like some irrelevant kid would bother me. Now I get like, I probably average like a thousand plus hate comments a day or no. How do you deal with it? I don't care. Yeah. Like I don't see most of them, but the ones I do see I'm like whatever. I don't know what the switch happened. It's like, how did I go from sharing so much? Like I don't know if it was like overnight or just like gradual, you know, just got used to it. I think what helps is these people don't know you. They don't know me. They see what we put online and that's it. If they hate you, they hate that little clip of you online. They don't know you. And a lot of the times they're insulting me with things that like, I know I are not true about myself. So I'm not going to let it affect me. Like if somebody's calling you the wrong name and continue calling you the wrong name, it's not going to, you're not going to respond to it. Yeah. That happened to me on one of my podcasts. Somebody kept calling you the wrong name. He kept calling me Sam. So I was like, should I tell him? Did you? I didn't. You're the whole interviewer. No, he called me Sam like seven times on episode. Did the comments like were like, Yeah, they were like really confused. That's so funny. I didn't know if I should tell him. See, I wouldn't either. I would just go with it. I just played into it. I was like, straight face is calling me Sam the whole time. Confidently. Yeah. That was a funny one. Oh no. Who was that? I forgot his name. Yeah, I forgot. 2000 episodes. You don't have to remember his name because he forgot your name. Yeah. It was like a year ago though. I'll have to find no one. But yeah, so you came out on top and that's all you could do with cancel culture. I guess. I don't even know if I came out on top. I just came out of it. I didn't come out on top. I just, I survived it. Did you lose a lot of followers of money? For sure. Oh god, I don't even know how many followers I lost because it's still, I'm still dropping. I think in the month, probably like a million. Wow. But then what was weird, what was really weird is I kept growing after it. I don't know what happened with that. Like I went from 10 million to 9 million to 17 million. Like how did, how? Interesting. Like cancel culture kind of helped in that way, even though it wasn't like a, I don't know if it was a positive thing. Well, sometimes you could channel the energy into like, look at Jake Paul, everyone hated him at first. I think people still hate him. A lot of people still do, but yeah, but a lot of people like actually hated him and he's kind of changed some of their opinions on him as he got into boxing. Are you going to get into boxing? I tried. You don't know about my boxing era? No. Oh my god, I tried so hard to find a girl to fight me and I couldn't. I was going to fight JoJo Siwa. She accepted it online, but then wouldn't in private. There was so many other people that it was like, oh yeah, I'll fight. I'll fight only J.S. And I was ready for it. I was training. I have a friend that went to the Olympics for boxing. Like I was training with him. It never happened. You should hit up Aiden Ross. Have you seen his stuff? No. I know who he is. Like he's actually from like nearby my hometown, which is kind of weird. But no, is he boxing too? I didn't know he grew up in Vegas. Yeah, he started California. Oh, Cali. Yeah. He started a boxing league in Miami. I'd be down to join. Okay. I'm more in shape now too than I was then. Like I'd be down to, I want to. I studied off for you. I wonder, I feel like the girls are harder to find matchups for though. Especially my height. My size. Well, no one's your height. Do you know Sedona? Like the town or? No, the very tall basketball lesbian player. No. I was going to fight her too. And fully, fully accepting that I was going to get my ass kicked, because she's so much bigger than me. And she's a pro athlete. And she just couldn't drop the weight. And I couldn't gain the weight to like matchups. So it was like somebody was too big. Damn. I can't find somebody my size. We'll have to do some research. You know how there's chess boxing? You haven't heard of that? Okay. So they played chess inside a boxing ring. Wait, I'd be down for that too though. Yeah. So that's fun. But they should do that with debates. Like while you're debating someone. Chess. In between rounds, you box them. Yes. That'd be viral. Because chess boxing is pretty hot. The doctor daft debates get kind of heated, but I feel like that could end up happening at one point. Yeah. We might have to pitch that to her. What's the most heated it's got on set there for you? I wasn't part of it, but just like calling somebody weird or like stop talking. Why are you here? Like stop talking. And it's like the moderators had to be like, stop. Like we gotta stop. She's the one moderating, right? Or is it someone else? Doctor daft moderates a couple of them, but she has like a staff behind the camera that takes care of it pretty good. Hmm. Have you ever done that red balloon pop show? No. Dating one? No, I've seen it. Is that still a thing or no? I don't know. Okay. I know that was hot for a bit. Would you do it? I'm married, but. Oh, congratulations. Thanks. If I was single, I think it'd be fun. I don't know if I could, I wouldn't, I don't know if I would want to date online like that. Yeah. You hide your, your relationships now, right? Do you ever look at your bank account and feel like you're getting hit with fees for no reason? Like overdraft fees, monthly fees, ATM fees, just for using your own money? That's exactly why I want to put you on to something better. Chime is changing the way people bank. 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That's like a great, great grand ex and honestly... Grand ex. Fuck that person. They're weird as hell. Told me and I'm what happened. I didn't see it. I just saw your YouTube video title. So I know that they cheated on me. Everybody's known they cheated on me for years. People didn't believe me, but like whatever, let it go. And then it started clicking. It was like, I got cheated on with a minor. Like there was a 17 year old involved. Talk to that 17 year old. They're like, yeah, that was extremely weird because they're older now. That's 23. They're like, that was extremely weird. So I talked about it and when I talked about it, more people came forward about like, hey, this person also talked to me when I was 17. This person took me on a date when I was 17. Damn, that's some James Charles stuff. There's a pattern going on right now. I had a 14 year old reach out with text messages and it's like, okay, how do you know the text message is not true? That's too young. It's because their phone number matched. How does a 14 year old have your phone number? So it's just weird. It's like, I feel gross that I dated a person that was doing weird shit like that. 14 is uh, that's too young. 17 depends on how old she is. I can't even fath. When you're in your, if you're past the age of 2021, you shouldn't be going for 17 year olds. Every state's different, right? Every state's different. California is 18. 18, yeah. I think most states are 18. I think just morally though, like not even morally, just maturity wise. Like if that 17 year old eventually turns 21 and then if the age gap is not the issue, I think it's the age difference there. Like minor versus adult. I mean, this is what got James Charles canceled. Is he canceled? You didn't know that? I don't pay attention. Do you scroll at all? Or you kind of just stay in your own? I do, but like my for you page is weird and funny. Not like, or it's like half like political like shit. And then the calf, like what the fuck? Like how did I curate this on my feet? I got a weird fee too. It's political dating, like red pill stuff. With the balloon pop thing. Feminist stuff. I used to be a lot of that. I don't get too much of that. Death. Do you get pro feminist stuff or anti feminist stuff? Anti. Yeah, you probably get pro. I get all of it. You get all of it. I see I try to get both sides. Like if it is pro, it'll be a debate. It'll be a feminist versus someone. I feel like the algorithm purposefully does that. Yeah. It's like, oh, you're a male and you're this age. Anti feminist content. What is it? The manosphere. Manosphere. I didn't watch it yet. You didn't watch it? Not yet. No. You would love it. I feel like it would piss me off. And I don't feel like being pissed off right now. Do you red pill guys piss you off? What do you think? Yeah. I got to set up a debate for you in one of them. That'd be fun. I would have a good time. Next time I'm out here. Who's a red pill guy in LA? Feel like they're all in Miami. They're down in Orange County. OC. Okay. I'll hit up some guys from OC. Why are they all over there? Like conservative, I guess. It's more conservative. But they're out here too. Like you see people with MAGA hats. Like there's, I don't know, any specific content creators. But like, I know that there's Trump supporters. And it's just like, I'm not going to like hate you, but I'm trying to understand why. Why are you thinking like that? What's going on? Have you ever supported them in like in 2016? Never. You know, my, uh, the text messages that got me cancelled. Which one? Saying the N word. Oh, yeah. Yeah. When I was like 15 in that, I also said, I hope Trump gets shot. So no, I've never been a fan of Trump. I was just brought out the receipts. Dude, no, never been a fan of Trump. He's just been creepy and gross. And it's not even, it is policies after seeing how he's been doing, but it's also just the fact that he treats women horrible. And as a feminist, I can't get behind it. Yeah. So you view it from a moral point of view, not even political. I just don't think that somebody so gross should be the leader of the country. But I see how he is. Trump isn't the problem. He's kind of, like, we're the problem. And he's what's come from it. Interesting. So society is the problem. Yeah. We created, we got Donald Trump here. And he is like, all of us, not in you, but like. Yeah. He's not the cause of all the issues, but he's like, the effect of all the issues. I got what you're saying. Yeah. Have you always been into politics? Kind of. But I've also, I used to be conservative. Oh, really? I just hated Donald Trump. Wow. And then swung when I got into college and started learning more. College does that. College does that. 100% going from religious indoctrination to like reading the actual Bible, it can do something to you. Yeah. That's a good point. Religion does influence people's political beliefs. That's what I was talking about on the Dr. Gaff show. It's like, I think that's an issue. Trot wives and conservative women. I was talking to anti feminists. This one episode already came out. Saw it. They were like talking about how they want to repeal the 19th. Yep. It's like, you're sitting here using your voice to tell us that you don't want one. It's like, well, do you vote? It's like, yeah, I vote. It's like, then don't vote if you don't want the right to vote. What are you talking about right now? That is ironic, coming from a woman, actually. It was, it was insane, honestly. Like, I felt bad talking to them the whole time. I've heard guys say it. I've never heard a woman actually maybe once. The brain, right. Not to use brainwash so lightly, but like brainwashed. It is a pretty wild take down as a woman. Do not want to vote. Not, no. Have you been to a lot of feminist protests out here? There's only, there hasn't really been feminist ones. I mean, I went to the, like an ice out protest. I remember walking by and this homeless guy was like, can I go protest with you guys? And we're like, sure. And he's like, wait, but is it a feminist thing? He's with the, like, yeah, it's a, it's a feminist thing. And he's like, oh no, never mind. Damn. So that's his line. It was funny. He was like, okay, it works. If you want, ladies, if you want a strange guy to leave you alone, just tell him you're a feminist. It works. Guys get turned off by that. It works. If somebody's harassing you, just like, I believe women should have rights. It's like, fuck. Yeah. A lot of guys run when you start saying that. Why is that? Why do you think? They have a, they think it's a traditional view, I think. They want the man to be the leader and. Boo. You know what I mean? Tell it to your grandma. Yeah. My grandma's a leader. I don't know. You got a lot of guy friends. I got a few. I wouldn't say I got a lot. I got, I got a couple straight friends, which is an accomplishment for me. Well done. Thank you. I'm sure any of my friends were okay. And what was funny for a while said that I was like, oh, I got, I got two straight friends and then they came out as bi. And I'm like, but, so I've been trying to find more. I just want to have a big, but I do have guy friends. Yeah. Okay. What, what is it about straight people that I guess you don't want to be friends with them? That's not what I said. I, it's, I don't know. Like they don't want to go to the gay bars with me. They don't want to go to drag brunch with me. Like. I would go to the gay bar with you, but not like all the time. Okay. You know what I mean? But you would try it. Yeah. As long as you try it once. I would go for the vibe. Drag queen. I think you're losing me on that one. I also just think a lot of people are gay. That is true. So, especially here. Well, if you study history, a lot of people were gay. Like the, the Rome, was it the Romans were gay? Yeah, Rome was gay. Yeah. Romans, right? Movie 300. All those guys were gay. I don't think they viewed it as gay though, but they were gay from our, our, our definition. They didn't view it as gay? Probably not. Like from my understanding, they like men went to war and then they would like fuck the boys, but like they didn't view it as gay. It was more like a dominance thing. Oh, okay. Damn, I don't know. From my stupid little understanding of what that was. A lot of people are gay though. In the closet, right? Yeah. People have guesses on like one out of a, I think I saw one out of 20 or something. Do you think that's accurate? I don't, I don't, I'm not going to, I don't know the numbers, but a lot of people are gay. A lot of people are just like a little bit gay. A lot of people are gay and probably going to end up in a heterosexual relationship and like that's fine, but like a lot of people are gay. Why do you think so many are gay here in LA? Safe space. We hoes. Pretty like chill. Like I, like if you live in a conservative area, there's no place for like a community to go. I remember there was like the GSA at my high school. Gay straight alliance. So it's like a club that the high schools would have. And I wouldn't join it because all the gay kids there were like wearing tails. And it's like, okay, I'm gay, but like I'm not like that. And then you come here and it's like there's normal gay people. Yeah. There's a lot of memes. I don't know if you've seen this at like conservative events about gayness. What kind of memes are the conservatives talking about? Turning point events or at CPAC, which was yesterday. There's like grinder memes. Oh, that they like blow it up. Yeah. Because they're closeted. Like grinder literally crashes when a bunch of conservative men meet up. Isn't that wild? That is crazy. But it's like, I believe it because when you suppress something, when you like, oh, something's taboo, something's bad, you want it more. It's kind of like, like with women's boobs, it's like they're taboo. Can't see like, so that's why we're sexualized and turned on by them. It's like, it's taboo. If they weren't taboo, if women just walking around naked all the time, nobody would care. Yeah. Did you ever consider joining OnlyFans? I've always said if I joined OnlyFans, things are not going well, but they're about to be. Okay. So no, I probably could have made millions. People say that I have though, like I think because my name only J.S. They think OnlyFans. And then I remember a YouTuber, a drama YouTuber was like, they started a OnlyFans page and then they dropped it. No, I didn't. People just be saying shit out here. I mean, you could have made a bag. But that's where you draw the line. I mean, I do passes, which is not only fans. I make gym content, like kind of a gym. You're working out or? Trying to. I finally am able to do two pull-ups. After a year of working on it, I'm finally able to. That's probably. And the motivation of people paying to watch me work out did that. So people pay for that. Are you serious? Like just gym influencer stuff, like the stuff you see on Instagram, like just like, I'm going to do a bench press. I'm going to do a squat. People pay to watch me do that because I don't post that. Taboo. Insane. There's a niche for everything. People pay to watch you eat, too. I could probably do good on that. Yeah, that's a muck bang they call it. I could probably do really good on that. There's no need for OnlyFans for that, if people are going to be paying for that. Yeah, I would never make one, personally. No, well, you're married. Even if I wasn't, no amount of money. Good. I just value that privacy, I think. Are you friends with? I think maybe you're shy. Yeah, I'm shy. Are you friends with people in that space? Adult workers? I think there's a lot of adult workers out here, too. Yeah, at least the hub of that. Honestly, respect. They're doing better than me. They're making more money than both of us. Probably. But at what cost? Showing a little bit more than we're comfortable with, I guess. That's all it is to you? What should it be? What if they want to get married? Then they're going to marry somebody that's okay with it. Fair. There's somebody out there for everybody. We were talking about this in the feminist debate, too. The anti-feminist, sorry. They were like, well, look at how all we are dressed. And look at how you guys are dressed. It's like men are more attracted to us. It's like, okay, first of all, do you want to see my DMs? Because I don't believe that one at all. But like. Wait, what do you mean by that? My DMs? Yeah. They were the anti-feminists were saying like, we're more attractive to men because we're wearing the dresses. We're being feminine. Men like us. And I'm sitting there like fully masked lesbian on the other side. I'm like, men are in my DMs all the time. Guys are still hitting you up? Yes. Wow. And they know you're gay. What do you think is paying for the gym? Wow. I'm speechless. They're still hitting you because they know you're with a girl though. Yeah. They know I like women. So that doesn't matter? Not to them. That's crazy. A little bit, isn't it? I mean, the bottom line is girls get hit up. Like, not stop. I've seen inboxes. It's crazy. Yeah. Guys just were simps. A little bit. A lot of simps these days. Makes it good for you though. You can make some money off of them. Do you ever look at your bank account and feel like you're getting hit with fees for no reason? Like overdraft fees, monthly fees, ATM fees, just for using your own money? 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I'd be doing it. Do it. I wouldn't get paid. You don't think girls would... No, no, no. Men would pay. Men would pay to watch me work out. 100%. What are you talking about right now? This is a new reality to me. I've never heard of this. And you can get in the gym and it'd be good motivation. Like I'm going to get paid today to work out. Wow. You got it all figured out right now. Right now I do. I don't talk to me in a year. Working out and debates. That's your life. It's weird. This is a weird... Do you ever sit and just like think about how weird all this is? It is weird to see how social media has evolved because debates weren't a thing. No. Like not at all. I mean, I kind of, like when I said I was conservative, I got like redpilled from like Stephen Crowder's like Change My Mind or like Ben Shapiro like doing his things. I used to watch them. So like debates have kind of been a thing. Yeah. They did the college stuff, I guess. Do you feel like you got redpilled from that? Yeah. Especially during the pandemic. I for sure. I was, I was redpilled to the max. How did you get out of it? Seeing Trump fuck up, I guess. Yeah. I mean, his term now has been pretty abysmal. Dude, I just passed by gas. So it's like six bucks. I was like, I have to fill up my tank. In Vegas, it was 640 yesterday. Oh, that probably means it's worse here. I just spent 130 to fill up my car. And it's why? Like why are we at war right now? Yeah. Mr. President of Peace. For the I word. Right. For the O word too. The O word. Oil. Oh, yeah. Everyone's blaming Israel now right now. My Uber driver, the entire drive actually up here was talking about how it's all Israel. It was actually a very interesting conversation. He taught me a lot, but towards the end it was just like, it's the length. It belongs to Israel. Like you understand. It was an hour long Uber. Learned a lot though. Read some of the Bible. It was a good time. Have you taken a stance on Israel stuff or you stay out of that? I guess if you ask me a specific question, I could take a stance. Like, do you think the U. S should be funding Israel? No, I think that there's so many people in this country that are struggling and we should probably focus on us right now. I get why, but like I don't get so much. You know what I mean? Yeah. We don't have healthcare. I don't have healthcare. I'm paying a lot for mine and it's like people got student debt. Like people are working multiple jobs. We have like families that aren't even able to like hang out with their kids because they're all working all the time. The kids are going to schools that are shit. It's like, we have so much money. We have so much money. Why are we over there bombing shit? It doesn't make sense. Do you want more government involvement or less in what everyday life like government programs? I want to say less because that sounds like the better answer. But like, I don't know. Like, I like, let's see, like I like socialism and is that bigger government in the sense because they're providing more, taking more kind of. But I don't like, I also want to keep my guns. I want to smoke weed. I want to do my shit and not have to worry about like the tax man coming after. Yeah, it just feels like right now they're involved with everything like marriage, school, every aspect of your life. My body. I don't plan on getting an abortion. But like if I wanted to, they're involved in that. Why can't get that should be a doctor conversation. Certain states, you can't get it now, right? Because a Roe v would probably I think out here you could still go on. I think they're trying to make it illegal though to even like go to a different state to do it. And like they're trying to criminalize it, which is just that's too much. That's too much government. But like funding a school properly. I'll take that government. What do you think I knew some not the biggest fan. I really, really hope we find somebody better as Democrat. I'm not a Democrat, but I hope the Democrats find somebody better. Yeah. I feel like it's going to be him and JD Vance and I really don't want it to be. It's looking like it at the moment. So you're not a Democrat, you said? No. What do you label yourself as independent? Socialist. Socialist. But like you, we only have two parties. So leftist. I don't even know the labels change and people get mad if you claim one thing and then you're not accurate to it. So I don't know. But I know I'm not a Democrat. I really don't. It's not that I don't like Gavin Newsom. I think he's like the perfect kind of crazy to do it. I just I don't I don't like his past. What about it? Well, he cheated on his wife. I know that for sure. But I think it was weird that like he's also platforming like conservatives in a weird way. And it's like, okay, you can do that. But also like, what else are you doing? I do want to get your opinion on platforming. We might disagree on this. So when you say he's platforming conservatives, you're talking about his podcast. Yeah. You see that as a negative that he has on certain people. I don't know if it was his first guest, but the first time I even knew Gavin Newsom had a podcast was because of Charlie Kirk. Charlie went on. Yeah. And I was like, okay, why? Why? And my only thing is I think conspiracy theory. I think Charlie Kirk was being set up to be the vice president. I've heard that. Do you think of it? Yeah, I heard it was supposed to be him and Trump Jr. down the road. I've heard about that. I heard him and JD Vance. Yeah, but I'm here in Erica and it's like, okay, you have this platform, you're going to use podcast. And you're on the left. Why are we doing this? Don't you think it's important to have dialogue with the other side though? I do. I really, I do. But there's, I read this book recently called Post Truth and it talks about how having debate is good, but if you have two very opposite end spectrums and you have them communicate on the same platform, it gives people the impression that they have the same credibility when they don't. Like one might be way more credible, but they're talking so that it seems like it's the same. Interesting. Yeah. And I don't, I'm gonna, I just don't like Charlie Kirk. Respect. I don't think he should have died. I just, I don't, I didn't agree with anything that he said. Wow. Anything. College is a scam. I don't think college is a scam. I think college itself isn't a scam, but the payment system probably is. For what I've, what I've seen with him, racism, I've seen sexism. I watched a 14 year old girl ask him like, Hey, I want to go to college and be like a journalist or something. And he said, you should get a Mrs. degree. And again, as a feminist, I just don't put up with that. Yeah. Yeah. You and him. But I do wish I really, I say this all the time. I really wish that he was still here so we could keep making fun of him. I mean, I think it's the company's way worse without him. Like Erica's like a laughing stock at this point. I feel like wouldn't the, well, yes, God, the Drusky thing. Oh my God. That looks so viral. But like you would think turning point is probably doing better now. Financially, yes. But I think long term without Charlie, they're going to be lost because you got to admit, even though you don't like him, he was the face of that company. He brought the eyeballs. I enjoyed watching him talk to, like, same with Steven Crowder and like, I just, I like listening to what other people are thinking, even if I don't agree with them. Yeah. He was, you should do those college debates. Would you ever do that? Set up on campus in 2026. Too dangerous. After that, I don't, I mean, I've already been like physically attacked in person. I really want to put myself in that situation. It'd be fun, but I don't know if I'd be anxious the whole time. Yeah. I mean, I don't blame you. I didn't know you got attacked. Damn. It wasn't like, I was at a festival and the internet actually helped me found it. But like this dude just started like punching me, pushing me to the floor. I get up. I'm all confused. Just like punching me and punching me and punching me. Wow. You punch like a bitch. And then the crowd separates us. They get mad at me for some reason. I take his picture. I posted online and the internet found him. This man had not posted in like eight years and they found him and he paid for my physical therapy. Wow. Internet detectives are crazy. It scared me a little bit. I remember that Netflix documentary, the murder of the cat or whatever. I haven't seen it. It was something about internet detectives. There's whole Reddit communities that solve murders. They're fantastic. They're insane. They scare me. Talented people. Yeah, they scare. They should scare anyone if they're committing. They could find this right now if they wanted to. This was live. 100%. Did you see a Cash Battales email got hacked yesterday? I did not. I wasn't on my phone yesterday. Look that up. Oh, no. Yeah, that'll be a good content video for you. I'm interested. Yeah. His account got leaked. His telegram messages. A lot of stuff. At this point, we should start just like pigeon mailing like handwritten letters because nothing on the phone is safe. Yeah, I can't believe that with the EBScene files. People were just emailing like that. That's crazy. You can go to, I think it's J-Wil. J-Mail. Yeah. And just read it. Yeah. That was the crazy. It's like, I can just read his emails right now. Like crazy. Can you imagine that if you died? Everybody's reading your emails? Nuts. Like, how do we prevent that? What do we? They were using code names, but it was still obvious. You know what I mean? Did any of that stuff surprise you? Yeah. Like, yeah, the shit that you've just been reading about, it's like, it's just shocking content. People were talking about it for years, but they were getting censored in Shadow Band. I remember people talking about Jeff Rebsen in 2016. Katie Johnson came out when Donald Trump went, ran first. And it's like, I remember hearing about him raping a 13-year-old. And it's like, why are we supporting this guy? Because people aren't hearing about this stuff. Yeah. But now they're hearing about it and they're still supporting him. So what is that about? Yeah, I don't know, man. I think this second term really ruined his legacy, to be honest. Yeah. Because I mean, the first term, I know you don't like him, but the economy was like, all right. Like, it wasn't... I don't think he handled COVID good. And I was also in high school college. Like, I don't remember too much about it. I just remember the like social stuff. Like, he's a bumbling buffoon. Like, that was just embarrassing, but he probably did good. Economically, he did decent. Yeah. But now it's like, we'll see how it ends, but it's not looking good. Do you think it's an age thing? Or do you think it should... I think you could tell with his speeches lately, he is not the same. That first term, he had some fire. His State of the Union, you could see tonsil stones flying out of his mouth. I saw that video. That was disgusting. Yeah, that's nasty. I mean, he's what, 80 now? And he drinks Coke every day? In McDonald's. He eats fast food. He's getting father times on the feed. Do you see how society has created him? How we... Not deserve Donald Trump, but like we deserve Donald Trump. I mean, we voted him in. I didn't. Speak for yourself, Sean. Cali did not vote him in. You're right. You guys never vote, right? Right. Like, you never vote for the right. What's interesting, actually, is the governor race might be two Republicans. I saw that. I tied one of them on the show. Really? Bianca. Which one? Okay. Sheriff. See, I haven't looked too much into it yet, because I'm really... I try not to stress myself out with too much, but the fact that it could be two Republicans on the ballot in California could flip. You're going to flip this year for the governor race? What is going on? According to the polls. That's crazy to think about. I mean, it just shows. I don't know what it shows, actually. I don't know what it shows either, but it is just like... What? Well, I know a lot of people here were pissed with the fires and how that was dealt with. Oh my God. I voted for Karen Bass. Oh God. And I was actually really disappointed with her reaction towards it. I don't know how she handled it after, but that first interview when she got off the plane and she ran away, I was like, no, I voted for you. Yeah, I don't know. I don't like her that much. Yeah. 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So this is just crazy. Yeah, Bill Gates, that's a wild rabbit hole. Doesn't that piss you off though, as somebody that like pays a lot in taxes to know that these people that are making so much more are not paying their fortune? I pay more in tax than most billionaires. Isn't that insane to think about? And you do too probably, right? It pisses me off. It's crazy. Why doesn't it piss more people off? I know how to not pay tax legally. I just saying it on camera. There's ways to do it obviously. Trump does. Yeah, Trump does it. Bezos does it. Because the people with the billionaires are setting up the rules so they can make those rules. There's all sorts of nerdy stuff you could do and set up. So you can get away with it too. It's just I'd rather not like worry about it though and get audited. Yeah. And then it's like a gray area tactic. I'd rather just pay some stuff. Yeah. But I'm also not happy seeing all the money we pay like how it's being used. You and I can agree on that. How much I think it's a billion dollars a day for the war right now. I saw that. Yeah. How much but then it's like how much to just give us healthcare, free healthcare for go to the doctor. You don't have to worry about it. Do you think free healthcare would be the most efficient model? Because if you look at Canada, some people are waiting a year. How is it in China? I don't know about China actually. I don't know if it's free in China but I've been seeing like those TikTok videos of like white people going to China and going to the doctor and just seeing how efficient their system is and how cheap they paid for their medicine and the pharmacies right there and like how quick and easy they made it. I got a look into that one. That sounds cool. I don't know anything about Canada honestly. But I do know America has the best doctors in the world and they're going to get paid no matter what. Just let people go see them. We shouldn't have to worry about medical debt. It's really bad right now. Like we can be doing really good but we're one like accident or disease away from being financially crushed. My friend right now is 500k in debt and I'll be coming to doctors. Isn't that crazy? Becoming a doctor? That is crazy. See that feels like it's a scam. It does honestly. I know we need doctors but just the route right now is crazy. Like if you want to be a doctor you should be able to without putting yourself in the hole like that. And I'm socialism. I think that if you contribute to society you shouldn't have to worry about like a lot of the things that we have to worry about financially. And I'm excluding myself from this because I don't contribute to society at all. You don't think so? Social media. I'm not doing anything productive. I'm not like the garbage man. I'm not a teacher. I'm not paving roads. So blue collar. Yeah. Anything that's like actually helping society function you should have your shit taken care of. Really? And I'm separating myself out of that. Wow respect. Thank you. So blue collar workers you believe should pay less or no taxes. Yeah. I don't know how to taxes somewhere. I'm just saying they shouldn't have to worry about healthcare. They shouldn't have to worry about going to school if they want to. They shouldn't even have to worry about housing I think. Wow. So people. You have enough houses in the world and the country for everybody. Yeah. So you really like socialism. Democratic socialism? Yeah. If that sounds better. Like the mayor in New York what's his Mandovi. Like his kind of style. I liked his campaign. I haven't been paying too much attention to how he's doing in New York. Probably going to give it more time but like his messaging was good. Okay. What makes you like that form so much? Was there a civilization in the past that you researched that used it or? No. I think I just I believe in people and I see the system how we have it now isn't working for the majority of people. A lot of people might say they're fine but they're really like they're struggling. They're living paycheck to paycheck. I think 80% of people some crazy like that. And I think like growing up as a kid watching my parents struggle with the 2008 recession and then like again being in foster care and like seeing how it feels to have the government kind of take care of me. I want that for everybody. Like it was so easy for me to go to college. It was so easy for me to like get an apartment. But I know that not everybody else had that. I want that for everybody. So the foster system paid for all that? Foster system I got free school and I they didn't pay for my apartment but I got a thousand dollar stimulus check every month until I was 21. I didn't know they did that. Can you imagine if they did that for everybody you turn 21 where the government's going to help you so you can start? And it's like I wouldn't be here successful on the internet if I didn't have that too. Yeah that is I'm fascinated because I've heard a lot of negative things about the foster system. But there is a lot of negative things about the foster system specifically the positive the AB12 program where they don't just kick you out at 18. They keep you until you're 21. You still have to meet up with a social worker make sure that you're doing good and your grades are good. You're still like you have a job like to keep all track of that. That was really good. Okay. I just I think they'll be good and positive for everybody. If we can invest into people that's my view of socialism. I might be wrong but like if we just invested into people the people would generate more than taking them like five hundred thousand dollars in debt to be a doctor is crazy nuts. And if we looked up the average right now I bet it's six figures. That's insane. Yeah. That makes me feel bad for them. And that's with interest. That's the crazy part because if it was just a couple hundred K for the rest of your life that's one thing but with interest. You're never going to pay it off. Never. At that point don't. Interest is deadly man. Do you use credit and debt and all that stuff? I like credit cards because you get like I do like the airline miles so I can just fly for I don't fly very often. I noticed I didn't get you out to Vegas. I tried for years. I'm so sorry. It's such a short flight. Honestly it's my dogs. I just it's hard to leave them. I love dogs. Do you have any? Two. I want ten. You want ten dogs? There's a there's a tiktoker I can send you. He's got like ten maybe twelve massive. I've seen him. I love him. Is that the one where he calls the name and they run out to get the meat? Yeah. I love them so much. Impressive training. I don't know how they do it because I have two and I'm like I can't handle anymore. I have two arms. Yeah. That's all I can do. What kind of dogs? Australian Shepherd and Golden Retriever mix. I love that. I got Great Danes. Those are big boys. They're there a lot. You can handle both of them on one walk or you got to take them out one at a time. One at a time. I got dragged once like fully like on my stomach across the neighbor's yard. Somebody witnessed it. Cheese. And that's stopped the double walking. Saw a squirrel or something. They heard another dog barking inside and just oh god. Very strong. Another reason why I work out. I love I wanted Dan one day though. Get one. I think they're great. They're the sweetest creatures. They get like, what is it called? Like anxiety. Like when you leave separation anxiety. Oh they do? Yeah. Damn. But you can train it out of them when they're puppies. So just keep that in mind. They're very like anxious ones. I didn't know that. My Australian Shepherd has the worst anxiety. Like so bad. Yeah. It's just because they love us so much. It's like where'd you. A lot of dogs take after their owner too. I notice their personality. I can kind of see that. Especially with because I have two. My boy is like very chill, kind of shy. But then the girl is like fucking crazy. So I got dichotomy there. But yeah, that's the main reason I don't travel too much. It's just them. Makes sense. Well, what's next for you? What debates next? And uh, I don't even know. I'm I got a computer science project due tomorrow. I gotta finish that. You didn't even sleep tonight. I'll sleep today and then get it done tomorrow. I'm just focusing on school. Trying to juggle content at the same time. Cool. We'll link your stuff below. Next time you see her guys, she will be debating. Somewhere. A red pill guy or something on the show hopefully. Maybe I'll ask Myron Gaines. Okay. Would you debate him? Fresh and fit? That'd be funny. 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