Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Second Date Update Classic: Hot Date Hijack

18 min
Apr 15, 20264 days ago
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Summary

In this Second Date Update episode, listener Tony recounts an awkward first date at a Mexican restaurant with Gemma where two women interrupted their date by sitting next to him while Gemma was in the bathroom. When the show connects them on air, Gemma reveals she's decided to "date down" and avoid attractive men to prevent similar situations, ultimately declining a second date despite Tony's remorse.

Insights
  • Non-confrontational behavior on dates can be interpreted as disinterest or lack of effort, even when unintentional
  • Third-party interference on dates can permanently damage attraction and connection, regardless of the date's responsibility
  • Women may make significant dating strategy changes based on single negative experiences rather than giving second chances
  • Communal dining experiences create unexpected social dynamics that can undermine romantic connections
  • Attractiveness itself can become a liability in dating when it invites unwanted external attention
Trends
Dating app culture leading to first-date awkwardness and social anxiety managementCommunal/shared dining spaces becoming popular restaurant concepts with unintended dating complicationsWomen taking proactive control of dating outcomes by adjusting partner selection criteriaRadio-facilitated relationship interventions as entertainment and relationship repair mechanismShift in dating expectations around partner assertiveness and boundary-setting during social disruptions
Topics
First date etiquette and social dynamicsHandling unwanted third-party attention during datesNon-confrontational personality traits in romantic contextsCommunal seating restaurant experiencesDating app culture and expectationsSecond chance decisions in datingAttractiveness as a dating liabilityPartner assertiveness and boundary-settingRadio-mediated relationship counselingGender dynamics in dating interruptions
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People
Tony
First-date participant whose date was interrupted by two women at a communal table restaurant
Gemma
Tony's first date who declined second date after unwanted female attention interrupted their meal
Brooke
Co-host of the Second Date Update segment conducting the date intervention
Jeffrey
Co-host of the Second Date Update segment conducting the date intervention
Michael Easter
Featured in sponsored podcast segment about mental toughness and resilience
Will Ferrell
Featured guest in sponsored podcast segment about life advice
Stephanie Young
Host of sponsored podcast about con artist dating schemes
Quotes
"I don't think he invited this necessarily, but I started to get kind of irritated with these girls. These two girls, I was like, get the hint ladies. He's with me."
GemmaMid-episode
"I don't want to be going out and fighting off parole, draping themselves all over my date. So I've made a couple of adjustments."
GemmaLate-episode
"I'm going to date down. Less competition. I'm not going to go after these like, you know, the hottest guy in the dating profile."
GemmaLate-episode
"You started with one woman on a date, landed two more, and now you've ended up with zero because you're too attractive. Now that's boy math."
BrookeClosing segment
"I would consider myself a non-confrontational person. That's why it was a tough position too."
TonyMid-episode
Full Transcript
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I doctored the test once. It took an army of Internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Regulespey and Michael Mancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to the Love Trapped podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Don't you hate it, Jose, when you take one woman out and end up with just a gaggle of hot women around you? I know, I know. And then you hear when they host gaggle, you go home, you open the door, go, oh my god, there's another gaggle in here. How are they following me everywhere? Yeah, that's what happened to one of our listeners today in your second date update. So definitely stick around for that story. But first, we always love to start with your comments. Oh, by the way, this is the second date podcast, the official one with Brooke and Jeffrey. So thank you for finding us. Yes, and this person said, it's been a while since I listened. You guys are still amazing. That's good. We need a little check up here and there. Nothing more than every day. Totally. You like show up every year. No, hold us accountable for sure. Yeah. Yeah. We understand if you would say. Yeah. Worse than I remembered. Yeah, all right. Here's your second date starting right now. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. All right, let's do a hypothetical here. I always love those. And Brooke, we're going to pretend that you're single. Okay. Is that single you? Look how excited she got. I know she's hooked up. Are you happy finally? No, I love being married to my husband. I know. I'm single for a long time. You're hanging out at the bar. Yeah. You're the same age that you are right now. I don't want to say it out loud. Okay. Just keep that in mind. But again, you're single and you see a cute guy cross the room. Okay. Very attractive. Do you approach him or do you try to get him to notice you so that he walks over? I've never had any tact, so I would definitely approach him. Brooke's an approacher for sure. Okay. Yeah, totally. And what do you do? What do you do? Oh, I don't know. Is maybe buy him a drink? Oh, wow. You're not doing anything extra. You're just like, hi, I'm Brooke. I think you're cute. Can I buy you a drink? You flash a bunch of money in his face and try to win him over like that. I've told many guys at bars when I was single, you're hot. Oh, that's good. That's kind of it. We love that. No, we would. I love that. Oh, my God. Girls will finally tell you. I told you. I don't have much shame or anything. Or a game at all. Well, no, not really. But it works. I'm telling you. Yeah, it works. I do think you forgot I said you're still your same age as now, but I'm going to let you get away with that one. I'm still saying that. It may have looked more desperate at my age, but. Can I buy you an old fashioned drink? I bring it up because one of our listeners says that he got approached by not just one, but two different women. And he thinks he knows the secret on how that happened. So let's talk to him. Tony, welcome to the show. Hi, how are you guys doing? We're my two twins at the bar. Is that why? She means look-alikes, not the other thing. Not the girls. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even think about that. I'm telling you, we were really putting it on, right? I know. Classic look there. She's accidentally hitting on him. I know. Tony, I apologize for Brooke, but. It's a tango thing. I know you went on a date recently. Who was it with? Her name's Gemma. We actually met on a dating app. Nice. Okay. I thought you said somebody approached you at the bar. You met on a dating app? Yeah. So I know, sorry, that might have been a little confusing. So we went to this Mexican spot and it had these like giant long shared table things. Like community seating. Yeah, exactly. We're like sitting with different parties and stuff like that. And it's kind of social, you know, people are talking to each other and interacting. But I thought that I was being pretty clear to the rest of the restaurant that me and Gemma are not brother and sister. We were there on a date together. Oh, how do you, how do you be clear about that? Like t-shirts matching? This is my date. That would be brother, sister. Oh, that is, that is worse. Brother, you look alike. Yeah, I did. Why? Why do you assume that? Yeah. Do you guys look alike? No, I don't think so. But it was more like the way we got treated, I guess, because we were, I mean, we were flirting. We were doing the whole date thing. And these two girls were kind of across from us. And like I said, it was a social thing. And Gemma at one point got up and she went to the bathroom. And during that time, these two girls came over and sat on either side of me and just kind of inserted themselves into the situation. Were they asking about your date? Like, you know, I could see like two girls that are out together. They're like, oh, look at their on a first date. Let's go mess. You know what I mean? She thinks it's going bad. I think it's going great. You let us know. Was it like that? I don't know what it was. But when Gemma came back to the table, she kind of sat not in the seat that they were in, but a little away from me, like across from me. Oh, wait, the women were still there when she came back from the bathroom? Yeah, they stayed there. Oh, that's a bad look. They were basically just paying attention to me. They were like laughing at jokes that I was trying to say and stuff like that. It was weird. Is it all that maybe she saw that they liked your vibe and she was like, oh, not at all. Not even like a tiny bit. I'm trying. It's one thing if they're like making it a joke, right? And they're including her and it feels like a group thing, but this sounds like she was really left out. Yeah, it probably hurt. Yeah. I was trying to do everything I could to show her non verbally that I am not interested in them. I'm trying to play foots you with her. I'm trying to engage with her and let her know. Like, hey, I didn't ask these girls to come over here. They just did it on their own. They've got nothing to do with me. You didn't do everything because you didn't move. Or ask them to move. In one time, I pretended to fall asleep during a date to get the message across that I wasn't interested. I kissed one of them and I gave her that she's a bad kiss. But so what do you think, like in your mind, what do you think was happening there? I kind of, and I told her this too. I think the only reason that they were even interested in me to begin with was because I was out with a really attractive girl. And that's the only time that that ever happened to me. That's so true. Did Gemma like that reason? Not at all. Were you able to salvage the date at all? Yeah, that's a good point. Like, how long were they there? They were there for the rest of the date, but we didn't stay much longer. We awkwardly left and she wasn't really talking to me at the end and no kiss or anything. That was just kind of hugged. And yeah. Oh, yeah. We know what the problem is. Did you bring it up with Gemma though about like, sorry about those two girls. Like, I wasn't interested. Yeah, he told her the whole reason he thought they were doing that. After the date or during? Yeah, well, the girls were right there. So it was hard for me to address it at the table. I just waited till we were in the car and I apologized for their behavior and said, look, I had nothing to do with me. I'm sorry. It was weird. What did she say? Well, that's good. She said she understood, but there wasn't much after that. Okay. Yeah, dang. What do you wish you would have done differently? Oh, it was a weird social situation. So I mean, I guess I should have asked for a private table, but that was kind of the whole experience of the spot was to do that with other people. Weird. I wonder, I wonder where her side is. Yeah. What does she see? Well, we'll get that from her when we reach out to her. But at least next time, probably need to avoid the shared long tables. Yeah, table for two. Or just accepting attention from other women. Just the sandwiching of the two women, I think, is probably what you need to avoid. When you're with a girl, curb other chicks, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty simple. Not that hard. Love lessons to be learned, and hopefully we'll get some answers when we reach out to Gemma for you and come back. Try to get your second date update right after this. Broken Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update. One of our listeners, Tony, went out on a one-on-one date that suddenly turned into a three-on-one date. Oh, boy. And the person who got excluded was Gemma, the woman that he actually came to the restaurant with. Because two random girls got up and sat down right next to Tony as soon as Gemma went off to the bathroom. So when she came back to the table, she was forced to sit across from everybody else. And the whole rest of the night was kind of awkward from there. He tried to play footsies. Yeah. Just to show Gemma that I'm actually interested in you. I don't really care about these two new girls. But she was kind of out of reach. I think she was a little high. Yeah. And Tony. He's probably just a table leg under there. Just tapping her. Yeah. Tony's thoughts on why this happened was actually pretty flattering towards Gemma, saying that she was so attractive that these other ladies must have been paying him attention thinking, oh, wow, this guy's, you know, with this gorgeous woman, he must have something pretty special, either downstairs or upstairs. Who knows? At least that's Tony's thoughts on the situation. We need to get Gemma's thoughts and see if we can recover. Yeah. How are you feeling, Tony? A little nervous, but I get, I kind of am knowing what to expect. I think it's a boy. Okay. That's how you're feeling upstairs. How are you feeling downstairs? Yes, he knows we're nervous. I'm nervous again. Okay. He's like, I'm trying to play footsies. Yeah. Nerves going everywhere. Have you talked to her at all since the date? No, I haven't gotten a response back from her. Left on red. We've went from three women to zero now giving Tony attention. So hopefully. He doesn't have the option. He didn't get their numbers. Well, yeah, I know. Oh, wait, did you? We didn't ask. Oh. No, absolutely not. Okay. Because then we wouldn't even make this call. It's like, because that's not it. It's pretty clear asking for their numbers in front of her. But okay. Well, good luck out there. Yeah. Let's call Gemma. We'll see if she picks up and hopefully we'll figure out what's going on. Okay. All right, cool. Let's do it. Hello. Hi. We're looking to talk to Gemma. This is Gemma. Hey. Oh. Thanks for picking up Gemma. Hey Gemma. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Oh, okay. Weird. Why are you calling me? What we're doing a segment called a second date update. Not sure if you're familiar with that, but we're trying to help out one of our listeners get a hold of you after you went out on a date with him recently. Guy named Tony. Oh my God. Did you just gag? Is that what I heard? Are you okay? Was it like a cough or you cleared your throat? Listen, I don't know what this guy told you, but it was a very, very awkward and incredibly weird date. Okay. He actually told us something similar. Yeah, we did hear about some of the events that occurred at the Mexican place with the two girls coming sit right next to Tony at the communal table while you went off to the bathroom. Yeah, those b****. Seriously. Okay. Yeah. It's the right Gemma. I mean, honestly, that's kind of a good sign, Gemma, because that means that you were disappointed. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, I'm just saying, like you liked him. Yeah. Like, because if you didn't like him, you might come back and be like, thank God. Thank you, ladies. Please take him. Saved me now. Yeah, that's putting a really nice spin on it, but yeah. Well, Tony says that he felt really bad about how it all went down. We're curious how you felt about the situation. Yeah, and I'm sure he did. Honestly, like at first when I came back and I was like, what? And then I saw how Tony was like clearly a little uncomfortable. So I was kind of laughing like inside. Oh, okay. Oh, that's such a relief. What do you think their intentions were? Oh, I know what their intentions were. I'm pretty sure. Tony, by the way, is a really good looking guy. And they swarmed in like locusts or whatever. I don't know. Okay. I think we're doing cicadas lately. Yeah, I thought a cicada is too. But you said that you didn't blame that on him. I don't think he invited this necessarily, but I started to get kind of irritated with these girls. These two girls, I was like, get the hint ladies. He's with me. So Tony was so flummoxed or whatever that he didn't even notice that I called the waiter over. And I was like, try attempted to bribe the waiter to still salsa on these girls. Did he do it? Did the waiter do it? How much money does something like that cost? The waiters probably annoyed with them too if they're this type of person. Salsa is like six dollars plus tips. I don't know, nine bucks. I waved a 20 at him and he was like, I'm sorry, I can't do that. I hope you gave that restaurant a bad review. I still don't understand that you're not blaming Tony. So why are you mad at him? Why did you go, I don't blame Tony in the beginning for not doing anything. But by the end, this went on for so long, he should have done more. I think he feels that way too, honestly. Here's the deal. You actually sound pretty understanding about the whole situation. You're giving Tony a little bit of leeway on it. But we can maybe fix this because I do have to let you know Tony is currently listening to this conversation on the other line waiting to talk to you. Oh my God, are you kidding me? No, no, no. And the other girls are there. No, they're not. That's a joke. That's a joke. I have to tell the kids. This Alexis and I, that's the only women. Yeah. Tony, you there? Ah, yeah, I am here. That's it. That's very formal, Tony. Well, hello there. Hey, Tony. Hi. Yeah. Hi. Maybe you should say something to her. Yeah. Well, first off, I just want to apologize for what happened. I had nothing to do with them coming over. Obviously I didn't ask them, but I didn't know what to do to be honest with you. It was a weird awkward sit. Like just, it was our first date. I don't know these people at all. Okay. Okay. That was, that was good, Tony. You can let her respond to that. Yeah. Take a breath. Yeah, I get it. And I appreciate the apology, Tony, but you already apologized. You told me that on the card. I'm not hearing anything new. Okay. Come up with a better apology, Tony. Go ahead. Yeah. Well, I mean, it does kind of sound like he's still blaming the women. Like he's not, like you need to own up to, like your own non-action a little bit more. Are you just like a very non-confrontational person, brother? Like, No, I would consider myself a non-confrontational person. That's why it was a tough position too. He was intimidated by the women. Is that hot for you, Gemma? That's kind of a leading question. No. I mean, I don't want to guys like punching people in the face, but like you gotta be a little more forceful. Balance. Yeah. Yeah. I think he was just trying to be as respectful as he could. But he was at the wrong way. Yeah. You're not a confrontational guy either. Like you get where he's coming from. What are you saying, Brooke? Yeah. Oh! You trying to put me in a corner right now? It's not. How dare you? He's compensating. Did I just break Jeff? Let's not turn this into a situation with us. Gemma, clearly Tony is remorseful about what happened and how he behaved. I'm sure he's, he's even told us next time he doesn't want to do communal tables. Yeah. He's like, I will reserve a table for two. So we'd like to help facilitate that second date and even pay for it if you're willing to give him another shot. What do you think, Gemma? I appreciate that offer, but I have just made a decision since this incident that I just, I don't want this to be my life going forward. I don't want to be going out and fighting off parole, draping themselves all over my date. So I've made a couple of adjustments. What is that, man? Yeah, what? You did it. Well, I'm going to date down. What? Hey! Oh! You're just going to date the guys that you find less attractive? What does that mean? Less competition. I'm not going to go after these like, you know, the hottest guy and the dating profile, because I just don't need this kind of headache. I mean, I like you Tony, but you're just too attractive for what I'm looking for right now. I cannot deal with the conversation. I don't know if we've heard that one on the second day of the day before. Danny is so backward. This is the most ridiculous response. I was not expecting that at all. I was like, what? Man, the good guys finished that for me. Convince her that you're not as attractive as she thinks you are. Yeah, you have no idea, Gemma, by the way. This never happens to me. Like, if I'm out with my friends, no girls are approaching me. That's not a hot bra. I usually repulse women. Yeah, it's your fault. Something's weird about you and you like me. I swear, I'll stop brushing my teeth and washing my face. No. I'm the girl magnet and your friends just repelled them. Okay. So he hasn't convinced you that he's ugly enough? I've been with him in person. He's cute. He knows he's cute and he's not going to get any less cute. Well, Tony, you started with one woman on a date, landed two more, and now you've ended up with zero because you're too attractive. Now that's boy math. Broke in Jeffrey in the morning. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter and on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers, researchers, and other health and fitness experts, and more to look past the impractical and way too complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry. We really believe that seed oils were inherently inflammatory. We got it wrong. Many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world are the result of stress. Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's T.W.O. percent on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, it's like they always say, hot guys finish last. Oh, we always feel so bad for you hot guys. I feel like I need to stand up for my fellow nines and tens out there. Oh, you're going to put yourself in that? And I need to say, stop the handsome hate. Let's use that hashtag and start a movement. You think that's why we get any complaint for the radio station? It's just you're too good looking. All the time. Yeah, I'm sure that's why you're in radio. That's why I'm so happy. I'm so happy to be a 7. Yeah, I'm just cute. I'm so sorry that it didn't work out. Yeah. Yeah. I really am. I bet that guy is so regretting him not getting the number for the two other women. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he had a chance. His one shot and he blew it. Yeah. But there's always opportunities for you to meet people when you come on to this show. Email us. We'll call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second day podcasts wherever you get yours at Broken Jeffery. 2%. That's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter. And on my podcast, 2%. I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's T.W.O. percent on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Vodem. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to ThanksDad on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I got you. I got you. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins, but the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice in the so-and-so, is correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of Internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Great Gillespie and Michael Mancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to the Love Trapped podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.