Championship Sunday: Darnold's Moment, Pats Bury Stidham, Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy, and Blue Man Group

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And so we just want to acknowledge masked federal agents are killing people in the street with apparent impunity and we need accountability. And so it feels weird to talk about football with what's happening in Minneapolis and other places around the country. And it just feels like a watershed moment in American history. So we are good to dig into all the action from Sunday, but we think it's important to acknowledge the impact these events are having on so many people. I have no good segue from that into football, but we're going to play the music and we're going to do our best. Welcome to bring your fantasy football show. My name is Dana. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horl. That Craig you're coming to us from Utah. You're at Sundance Film Festival and you're recording on a potato. That is correct. We're recording the old school way. Like we used to like a year ago. I apologize to everyone on that. I'm officially this is the ugliest image that's ever been on Netflix. So I'm sorry about that, but I will a lot of Ceeox fans in Utah, DK. Oh really? Yes. Is this a DK? I knew it. Nice. Ceeox Patriots in the Super Bowl rematch DK Sam Darnold has led the Seattle Ceeox to the promise land. How do you feel? He has exercise the namens. This house is clear. That is a he's been sure. Yeah, he's been sure of those who don't know. Yeah, this is crazy. I honestly that game I was telling you guys before show. I'm like sweating right now. That was the scariest fourth quarter I've ever experienced. Also exhilarating. I thought the Rams were going to pull it off for a minute there. There was like a horrible recoil and sequence that was going to live in my dreams for the rest of my life. Thank God that's not actually going to happen now. Taunt thing on the sideline and then I did the fourth and 12. And then it was a touchdown on the next play on req woolen. Also he dropped a pick on that play before he taunted and whatever. So that was tough. Just added to the drama. But feel good now obviously. So yeah, yeah, crazy, crazy game. There's a lot to get to. So the Rams Ceeox the Ceeox win 31-287. Right? Oh yeah, that was the score. We'll go with that. 31-27. And I unfortunately think we have to start with Sean Gve. Using all of his timeouts with three minutes left in the game. Including I not to be harsh, but holy crap. This is a week after Sean McVe with the Bears game kind of acknowledged to that Peter Shreger mentioned this on Bill's show on Friday that McVeig kind of new new he botched the clock management last week for Chicago. Comes into this week with the Ceeox and calls a timeout to debate whether he needs to challenge the play, which is a mistake. Throw the flag. That's when Jeff, that Jeff Fisher would do that 15 years ago and they made the rule that if you lose a challenge, you lose a timeout. The punishment for losing a challenge is losing a timeout. So calling the timeout to debate a challenge when there's one minute left in the game to use any of your challenges. I don't know how you can be so smart. There's a Jerry Seinfeld bit in there somehow. You know how to use the timeout? It was just like, yeah, that was brutal. And then he ended up not even throwing the flag. No, and then he used another timeout and they explained they were out of timeouts. I that was horrific and the play and then the drive before that, which was I think the single best drive of Matt Stafford's entire career outside of maybe 10 seconds. Hot knife through butter. Yeah, that was crazy. Stafford, I think the only time I've seen Stafford play better than that, I'm maybe there are other ones I'm forgetting, he's 38 years old. But at the Super Bowl, going down like the no-look passes to Cooper Cup to win that game, but outside of that, that drive Stafford had that got in the goal line. Oh, sorry, you're talking about the methodical driver. He checked it on the whole way and then he always talking about that crazy touchdown drive that lasted like 10 seconds. So I'm talking about a different drive, but you're right. Continue, sorry. No, the whole thing was incredible, but just I, the that's where I've ended, the one with the long one and smick Veyance and his screaming into his play sheet when they go turn over on downs. That was a screaming. Devon Willerspoon broke up a pass that was intended for the rookie Ferguson, I believe. He kind of, Willerspoon ran his route underneath. Yeah, great play. That was the fourth down and then you see McVey just screaming into his, was he screaming because he was mad at himself for the play collar because they had an open guy? I think, well, I think it was screaming fuck because he knew they were going to lose the game. I think it was screaming at a rage and also the drive before it when they had the touchdown, which again, I mean the Rams, look, this is all things we talked about, which McVey's clock management, it's the special teams, the Rams fumbled upon, recovered it in the first half, fumbled another point in the second half, didn't recover it. Sylux immediately get the touchdown. The reek wool and fourth and 12 kind of undid that, but overall like there were so many mistakes that the Rams ended up making the clock management. I don't want to put this on McVey, but you combine the timeouts at the end and how the game just petered out and the Rams even almost got to the 50 for Elmer. If they had any timeouts, they would have had a serious shout at the end, combined with the fact that when they went, they scored a touchdown and cut it to five. They kick an extra point to go up four instead of even trying for a two point conversion to cut it to three, which they would have been able to do on fourth down. I don't want to put this in McVey because McVey's like maybe the best coach in the whole league, but I don't know how he's going to sleep tonight. It's got too many jobs. It's hard when you're calling all those plays, you got to manage the clock. It was brutal. I honestly think both these teams played well. The Rams just made a couple bad mistakes and they lost the game. And like the Syox were clean, man. Donald was so clean. The Syox were just outside of the woolen unsportsmanly conduct, which was very questionable that we can get into. The Syox is played a really clean game like Jared verse jumping off sides, the Xavier Smith fumble on the punt was absolutely brutal. The Parkinson drop on that final drive that could have maybe even been a touchdown. The Rams just made some big mistakes and Stafford played well and the team generally played well. They just had like three to four big mistakes and Seattle didn't and Donald was rock solid and McDonald stuck with Donald the entire fourth quarter. Even at the end of the game, they were closing the game, dropping Donald back and trusting him to make throws and every throw he made was right on the money. It was solid. It was safe. I thought that was super impressive and just like an awesome moment for Donald that like even in the crucial moment, it wasn't like, all right, let's take the ball out of his hands because we're afraid of him and they leaned in and that's the confidence you need to go into the soup ball. So what I've been saying all year, I have un, right? Just unlimited confidence in Donald to come through in the clutch. I did that. Well, it's funny because the first quarter, like the like the second throw he made was like a pick should have been a pick. If you remember that. And then since then, he was perfect. That's how both games kind of started because Drake made his first throw of the of the Patriots Broncos game was a pick six that who fogged off the Broncosis dropped and then it changed the whole game and Donald kind of it was kind of like that similar similarly, but DK, you were texting in the middle that this was like a heavyweight fight with Darnell just going toe to toe with Matt Stafford and he won. I know this game is crazy. I think just what you guys were talking about during that whole set, like so many times an NFC championship, aFC championship, these these do or die go to the Super Bowl or go home games. You're going to look back all off season and pro and some guys like all the rest of your life about one or two little plays that made the difference in the game. I felt like there was eight plays in this game. That kind of we're just like, oh my god, that is going to be so hard to think about for the rest of your life. You know, like the drop, the was it Parkinson drop? There's so many of these. Oh my well, that was also in Stafford's long drive was the like the third down Colby Parkinson drop that was a walking touchdown. Yes. But you know, not to pat ourselves on the back, but I feel like this game went exactly how we thought it would go and how everybody thought it would go. It was just like back and forth. The sea oxer for whatever reason cannot stop the Rams. The Rams offense is the only offense that in the NFL that did this to the sea up all year. Literally the only offense that could move the ball like this on the sea. This year was the Rams and Stafford was making incredible throws. It came down to the final drive. Who could accool barely had a shinn down on that out route at the at the end of the game. If he would have been out of bounds, they could have tossed it up from that was bothered. Like that was that was that was I just let him throw a hill. Mary that was silly. Yeah, sure. That sounds great to me. Yeah, he's just because of the times. Oh, in a quarter of a second. It's one of them like, dude, it was clearly he was clearly in bounds. We should on the rest all the time. And I feel like the refs nailing that in the moment was extremely impressive. And then if you even rewind to the Cooper Cup first down, that was debatable where McVeigh screwed up the timeouts. They also got that right in the moment where a cup I did get the first out of that 100% they don't treat it that side typically all the fun away. They wanted a lot of bounds. That was the right call. They nailed it. What do you want? Sure. It's fine. It's just sure. Whatever. I'm not dying on this. I don't care this much. They nailed it in the moment. What do we want? I don't care that much. It's not that. What are you going on about? Are you saying you wish that there is like, now he was out and then we watched the replay and we're like, no, he was in, but they just let the Rams get an edge. It's one of those that when you, I don't know, I want when you I rewinded and I watched it live. And I'm like, he's going a hundred miles an hour. And he just like 90% of his body lands on a bounds. And during the flow of the game, it's just not ref that way. I don't care. It's not that big of a deal. Guess what? The way to throw a helmet. I'm not trying to get stuck on this. Let's just move on. They would have lost the game. We're moving on. I'm not even arguing. I'll take. I'm not a take. I just I wish I said, oh my god. I literally am not even. Thank you. Thank you for saying all this. I mean, what I'm having. Oh my god. I'm not even fighting. It would have been a 50 yard Hail Mary. Like that could happen. I don't know what we're doing here. Whatever. I so I just just poop. I would be pooping a cuckoo over any wide receipt. Probably him and Devonte Adams would be my first two picks for Hail Mary wide receivers. And that's suffered other than Aaron Rogers. Yeah, let's go say. So I but speaking of puky, though, the other guy in this Jackson, not just Darnell and Stafford, but Pukin, Akua. I think Jackson Smith and Jigla were kind of outplayed Pukin, Akua in this game. And Jigla was the trio of Sam Darnold and Jigla and Ken Walker were unbelievable for the C-Hawks in this game. JSN, I don't want to say single handedly, but almost literally single handedly got the C-Hawks down in the first half. The one he had the crazy one hand catch in the first half where he just caught it. It was like spider, man. It was instantly in his hands possession. And then the final drive for half time with another shot. Another one where I hate to say it, but like Mike variable would never have given the C-Hawks two possessions inside the two minute warning at the end of the first half. Like this is a Tom Brady old-school Patriots bell check thing, which is the first priority is not giving you the team the ball, then the second priority scoring. The Rams gave the C-Hawks two possessions. And JSN had that one over the middle, then the touchdown out of the back field. JSN was unbelievable. I was going to say that drive. So that was the drive right before half. The C-Hawks were winning at the time or sorry, the Rams were winning 13 to 10 with like minute left or whatever. And the momentum had fully shifted to 100%. Yeah. And it was like the C-Hawks kind of crumbled a little bit. There was like a weird play where Sam Darnell blew up a drive because he missed the snap. JSN on that drive made three incredible plays. The first one was he caught the ball in traffic where basically the DB was breaking across his hands and he just hung onto it. It was such a strong incredible catch. He got that. The next play they hit him on a over or it was like a poster out down the middle. He gets absolutely blown up at the catch point hangs onto it. The next play or maybe it was a couple plays in between and then another play later on the drive. He lines up in the backfield, which is something that they've been doing with him a little bit this year. It's really fun. And he runs out of the backfield into the corner of the end zone. The Rams don't pick it up. They get confused. And he hits and he has a touchdown to me. That's like such a distillation of JSN's season. He's just and then he made a couple like really clutch plays late in the game too. But man, he is just so good, so reliable, so clutch. Cooper Cup, by the way, does there's a lot of credit in this game too. Cooper Cup had some huge plays. He scored a touchdown. Cup and J. Bobe with the exciting whites. Bobe. The JSN made a box. Yeah. Cup up against the Rams. Honestly, Kobe Parkinson on the Rams again, former Seahawk, but obviously, Cup is the cooler former Ram. We got very, very upset when he was Cup by the Rams and went to Seattle. But the JSN, I can't say enough about JSN and the toughest. They showed him on the sideline after that drive where he had the touchdown. And he got the shit kicked out of him. His arm looked like Mendoza in the championship game. He was bleeding. It was like, honestly, it was so black and blue already and like an open wound, just like bleeding under the new shoulder pads. And he was, it was so impressive. But yeah, Cooper Cup, this was everyone. And I can walk her. Cannot say enough of a Ken Walker. The amount of time. 10 damn years. You have been saying it for 10 days. You had Walker is so good. No one has been more consistent. Like, why doesn't Ken Walker play more than you, Danny Kelly? And I got to give you your props because this was a game where sometimes he strikes out when he should get on base. And sometimes there he should strike out and he hits a home run. And this game was all dingers from Ken Walker. I think as long as run of the game was only 11 yards. But the receiving work. He's Cal Raleigh. Who cares about the freaking strikeouts? I want the home runs. And they were all crucial. He was guy full sake one today. Like straight up, he just won't say one. Like him making guys miss in the backfield him in the receiving game. The receiving game was a big thing. And that's something that people kind of overlooked this season is him on screenplays and little dump offs. He's actually really good at creating after the catch. Getting them explosive plays when it doesn't look like it's going to happen. There was one play on duo. I just I don't remember exactly when it was. It was just like, and he showed his look. He kind of showed a little bit of patience right before the line. And then he just hits the gas and picks up like 10 yards before you even see him. So he was he was incredible. He's been incredible. I for the sea ox down the stretch. I believe he is the most mistakels per touch in the entire league among running backs this season. I forget. I'm sorry. I forget where I think Dan Pizzuda maybe had that that stat this year. But I Ken Walker. It's the kind of it's the exact kind of stuff that doesn't show up on a box score. Because if you look at the box, which I said Ken Walker, eight yard catch. But the catch should have lost two yards. The amount of times that he just makes a cut. And then yeah, I mean, the cut you said in the hole where he made it was Omar Spades just whiffed in the hole, which is like the most underrated characteristic of running back and halves, making guys miss in the hole. But also Ken Walker just does stuff. He just kind of runs. He gets to the corner so quickly. He's just so shifty and he created so many. It's about first downs. It's always big plays and explosives. He's just keeping them turning a loss on first and 10 to like eight yards or trading second and four. You're going to lose two yards into getting the first down in between. MJ said and everyone. But honestly, man, the first drive, it's the first drive with the CFS march down the field, third and two or three or whatever it is. And Ken Walker takes the hand off. There's I think three rams right in his way. And he bounces it to the outside, beats the guy to the corner, gets in. This to me is why explosiveness is something you cannot have enough of on offense. I believe I've been a huge believer in Ken Walker because of this. You cannot capture his explosiveness and success rate because a 50 yard run on first down is the same as this, whatever it is a seven yard run on first down. That's success rate. So to me, it's the explosives. It's the way he beats tackles and defeat tackles. It's just that value. It's just so huge for the C.O.X. offense with that, especially in a game where you want to get things going and not ask Sam Darrell to do too much, do too much at first. Obviously they asked a lot of him in this game. And he came through big time. But he's been massive down the stretch for the C.O.X. To that point about Ken Walker and Cal Rally, the C.O.X. They're sorry, the Mayrunners catcher hit 60 home runs, big dumper. Ken Walker is it's kind of like measuring Cal Rally by on base percentage. You don't do that. You do slugging percentage because it's about how many fricking it's about how many dingers he has in his head. And Cal, I mean, Rally had some clutch hits on playoffs. He had a bunch of, you know, at least like three or four home runs in the playoffs as well. So yeah, it's like to me, the success rate stuff is so overplayed. It's like, give me those explosives. Give me the give me the broken tackles. Give me the plays that gets your offensive lineman fucking jacked up and wanting to block for you. Overall, the reality is the C.O.X. and Rams were probably the best and most consistent NFL teams the entire season. And these were in the not just the NFC, but the entire league and all three games lived up to it. And these teams live on the cutting edge schematically on offense and defense. And when the first time they played this season, like it changes around the league, how these teams are defended and have to play it. They are ahead of everyone. And the C.O.X. they, they edged them out, man. I this is it was pretty awesome. But yeah, credit to Mike, we thought, oh, yeah, fuck, I said, you said it. You get mad at me for sure. Edging. Yeah. My friend, my friend texted me after the game and said, Darnold is going to a Super Bowl and it not feeling fraudulent is an all-time turnaround story. And I think that's a really great way to put it. Yeah. Like Sam Darnold is going to be the quarterback in the Super Bowl. Might win a Super Bowl. And it doesn't feel wrong. Feels right. Feels like he deserves it. He played well enough. Two years ago, Sam Darnold's reputation was in the gutter. Like Sam Darnold was irrelevant two years ago. He was playing for the 49. He was the backup on the 49. I will pat myself on the back. I flock myself a lot for shit. I got wrong. But I was viscerated on this podcast when I said, yeah, that was my knees on the Niners that he would be a good starter. But you lost all that goodwill after that dumb pukin' n' koo-tik at the end of the game. That just went all the same stuff. Exactly. No, you're totally right. And him being like in the right system with the right, you know, he had all the physical tools and him basically aligning with the right play collar worked out. So hi, it's Chris. You, because that was a great call. Nature versus nurture and justice in other cat. Honestly, this is like a forever cap feather in the cap for nature versus nurture. I'm just a big lever. Like when you have got like incredibly talented quarterback prospects, that fail when they go to horrible teams probably aren't bad. Like it's not that complicated. Like second round picks, I don't know. We could Baker may field us a first pick and like when he goes to a better team, you look at what Sam Darnel says. The top three pick. It's like how many quarterbacks do the jets have to ruin until you're like, well, clearly it's the jets. You know what I mean? It's not Sam Darnel. And you have to re-evaluate other people. Could Mark Sanchez have won a Super Bowl and been way better on other teams? Probably. You look at all these other guys and their successes or failures. I don't know. It's so clear to me that environment and quarterbacks need a, you know, we're going to hear so much about, I mean, these are really the two ways to build the team. The Siouxx went and kind of built something incredible in the roster, cutting it schematically and they found a quarterback good enough to get them there. And the Patriots are just going to fund the entire next five years in Drake May's working quarterback contract. Cool. It's like, we don't have to get into all that, but overall the Darnel thing is just a cool human story. Like, he was on our flight to Los Angeles this year. Yes. And we were like, doesn't look like that. Doesn't look like a big guy. We're like, he's a metaphor quarterback. He's sitting behind us on the plane. Yeah. We were like, well, it's just wild that he's in the Super Bowl. And I don't really think anybody thinks that he, it's twice about it. It's like, yeah, two straight seasons. He's been one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. I mean, it's legitimately, I think him and Tom Brady are two players that have won 14 games on two different teams and back back years him and Tom Brady. And dude, I, on that note, we have two weeks to talk about this, but has to be mentioned is the real loser of this, of today, the minutes sort of Vikings letting him leave. It's a toss between him and Xavier Smith. I think it's a new Kyle Williams. The Niners, when the Giants made the Super Bowl versus the Patriots, the second time and the NFL championship game, the poor Niners punter turn or fumbled two or three times. And that's why they lost. And unfortunately, that is who you are the rest of your life. And I hate to say that, but Xavier Smith, he fumbled in the first half and McVeigh didn't bench him. You guys are again, and they lost. He bottled. He didn't fumble. He bottled. No, he, he fumbled. Hit the ground. He hit the ground. He mumbled. He fumbled in the air. He hit the ground. No, no, no, no. It hit the ground. You're thinking of a catch that someone in the first half, bobbled and then they caught the pass. Oh, right. You're right. I know you're talking about. Yep. But there's a point. No, Xavier Smith dropped the first part of the sea hawk sky just wasn't kind of close enough. But you guys, you're you're you're burying the lead here big time. Okay. First, sea hawks offensive play of the game. What happened? I think it was the first. Versheteer he'd. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He had one. One catch. Close to one. Yeah. We took the over on 22 yards or whatever. We were like, oh my god. We're geniuses. That was his only catch of the day. I was like, guys, he's he has zero catches in two out of the last four games. Oh, he's gonna get one. What did we say? We said, he'll get it on the first drive. It don't feel great to get it all one chunk. It's not gonna happen. There you go. It's look, man. Better to be dumb and lucky than and winning and good. Also, we're totally winning this one. This is everything. We hit the Drake May one. Like the keys. Three and one. We did. Yeah. We did. The keys. And I think about your best three and one. Like the the prop that comes to you immediately just take that. I think that that is the correct answer. The too many mind. Don't do that. We spent like eight seconds. Drake may rush into that. Yeah. Yeah. We did know the numbers. That's the key. They'll look up the numbers. We did know the numbers. Numbers are yeah. Now. So okay. So they're well, we're not gonna stop time at the sea. But the six playing Patriots, which DK media thoughts on a sea ox Patriots reunion where you get to not sorry rematch where you get to exercise the thinking of the Malcolm Butler sea ox Patriots picks six. Yeah. I mean pretty exciting. Hopefully Bill will remember this one this time. And no, yeah, this is gonna be fun. Obviously, to me, it's it's funny that it's a rematch because these are two totally different teams and almost every respect. But like, yeah, it is fun. And yet you're going to see that play. Oh, winner of the week is Malcolm Butler, who's going to have that play show. No, 100 times. He gets like royalties from every time I show that replay or whatever because he's probably breaking it in this week. He's going to be on radio row at the Super Bowl. Loser is Ricardo Lockett and Russell Wilson, who are going to have to watch that all the sea ox Richard Sharman, all them have to relive that now. But my goal truthfully is to not talk about that game this week. Let's let's try to avoid it. Okay. Yeah. I kind of like that's it's a Mike Tomman. I'm looking at my front view is bigger than my review. Exactly. Yeah. Can he super this you can't eat super the fork. Yeah, we're not eating soup and forks. We should do that as a punishment one year. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Patriots winning being in the Super Bowl. God, dude, all the ages fans are mad that we're upset about it. And I want to be very clear. You guys had a 20 year run that's the best run in the history of American sports. You had four year follow period. And now you're back to the Super Bowl. We're allowed to be a little annoyed that you just have done what everyone wishes they could do, which is just draft rags to riches, draft a quarterback on the top three, hire the best coach available in a decade and immediately go to the Super Bowl. I'm allowed to be fricking salty about that. That's okay. Unfortunately, the correct take is that we couldn't have the Broncos in the Super Bowl. Okay. I know. That's good. We can't have Jared said I'm sorry. I guess we were well. That would be a disaster. Drake may is funny. MVP candidate. Yes. The AFC in general was not that good. So it's like in terms of the other teams that I think should have been there. I don't even really have a great answer. It could have been Denver. I guess it could have been Buffalo. So, but the Patriots were one of the best teams in the AFC all year. So I'm not I'm not pissed that the Patriots are in the Super Bowl. I think, you know, they beat the teams in front of them. A lot of them had terrible offenses. But we couldn't have had Jared said it would have been a disaster. This was a necessary sacrifice. We had to give up allowing the Patriots to make the Super Bowl to not have Jared said them. They're just the Patriots. Look, Roger Sherman, our former colleague put it very well, which is Patriots fans are a brag or trying to like defend their team is not being a fraud. And it's like instead just be happy your fraud team made the Super Bowl. That's the dream. The Giants had a fraud team make the Super Bowl a win twice. Like that's the goal. I don't I know they were fraud. It's fine. They're a wild card. That's what happened. Patriots are the easiest schedule to ever make a Super Bowl. No one gives a decision if you win. But we got to the 10th. They want to get already the villains. You're the Patriots. Lean in exactly. Yes, that's the thing. You're going to be the villain. Just own it. Like we're not unhating you because we like Drake. I love Mike Vrable. And again, I again, I speak it to other losers. The Tennessee Titans. The most incredible. I cannot believe this is real. The Mike Vrable is one more games to the Patriots since December 21st than the Titans have won since they fired Mike Vrable. So that's an all time L for the Tennessee Titans up there with anything. They're playing whackable with the coaches. It's hilarious. So the not for them. Sorry. Before we go into this. And again, props to the Patriots because I actually have about to defend them a lot. How do you guys feel about the snow games? And I think that was like a very big criticism was like Ceeox. Rams look like a different sport than Rams Broncos. Deke, how do you feel about just snow games and contesting the semi finals at the NFL? I am fascinated to hear what you're about to say. I have no idea where you're going to go because I haven't been. I am not against snow games generally speaking. There's a reason for a really long time they had the Super Bowl in the dome every year. It's I think it's just a little weird that you have this whole season come down to oh my god, it's fucking blizzard. And we're like just desperately trying not to turn the ball over. I think generally, you don't change it. Like the idea that you make a only dome's rule is stupid. I don't think we should do that. I think some weather games are fun. But I do think it kind of sucks that a whole season for two teams and two fan bases comes down to this is unplayable. We can't we can't play in this weather. It's bullshit. So what's the fix? Like playoffs have to be in domes. But regular season doesn't there's no fix. It's just it's just a bummer. That's all. I think it's hard. It was a nugly ask game and really boring to watch. Look, it went from a just for context. It went from a completely green field to completely snow white in like half an hour. You know what? It was an incredible change from the beginning of the mid-third quarter to the beginning of the fourth. But Craig, how do you feel about the snow games? I watched that. I watched the nine years of the I watched the CRX game in my hotel. I watched the Pat's game at a bar in Park City. And let me tell you the first half of that game. Everybody in the bar was chatting with themselves. Eating food, drinking beer. The second that shit started snowing, everybody locked in. And you know what? It's more fun. It's just more fun. It's football. The gladiators didn't fight in a fucking dome. You know what I mean? This is what we have now. I like it. He bit gladiators didn't fight the dome. This is fun. I think it sucks that the bills are getting a dome. I don't want that. Craig, I, I, this is the part of the game. And you know what? If you are a team that plays in the snow, it's it should be an advantage for you because you know how to do it. And then when the Rams have to go to Chicago, that should be an advantage for a team like the Bears. I mean, the Broncos got screwed because the bone X got hurt. But like, you know, if you're a snow team, take it as a badge of honor and win in the snow. It's genuinely like an inflection moment for a friendship, Craig. And I, we are, we are just like, I literally think we will be stronger together. Go and say that. I actually like, my friends, I did we just become better. I, I couldn't agree with you more. I look all like, I know because some people are really pissed. And they're like, this is stupid. I agree that you're saying about Buffalo getting a dome. Football is just cosplay for war. It's just men playing dress up and do a little war cosplay with their little helmets and the teams are little little armies. And they're just like, who gonna fight? And it's like, we're gonna take your land. We're going in there. It's called opponent territory. Like, that's what it is. You can't just be like, I don't feel like fighting. It's cold. And it's snowy. Like, that's not what works. It's like, it matters. It's like the first, I, the first chapter of the fucking art of war is about like fighting in the weather, man, like, or maybe it's like later in the book, but like it's the whole chapter on it. You can't just, yeah, what's cool? I don't know what to say. It's cool. It's cool. It's, it's so cool. You have to know how to play the snow. And you know what? This is why as much as a mad about it, the Patriots deserve to be the Super Bowl. Because Mike Vrayble is the last goddamn coach alive who understands what situational football actually means. It's not just the red zone. People are like, oh, Matt, you're like Mike Vrayble understood. Yeah. We're going to throw the ball away on third down and punt because there was no chance that Jared's system is going to drive 85 yards in this freaking game. And like Mike Vrayble understood that what the game had become. And I, they just are, again, it's not sexy, but the Patriots are always prepared. And that's why I'm so infuriated because the, the, Bella check was the best game to game preparation coach. Now it's like not even close that it's Mike Vrayble. Like it's not even close. And honestly, the league could have taken this team. Good at it too. Yeah, but I just, is there any other head coach you think could have taken this Patriots team to Super Bowl? There's, I don't think it's even close that anyone else could have done it. This is a Mike, Mike is one of the better coaching seasons. I have ever seen from anybody is what Mike Vrayble has done probably since Bella check in 2001 when they when they meet the Rams. I mean, the second half for New England. It was literally run, just run the ball until it was third down. And then if it was third and long throw it away punt. And that's all they did. And it worked. Patriots Craig Patriots allowed 32 yards in the second half. I mean, it was really, really smelling. Well, that was five possessions 32 yards. They Rams, the Broncos were in three plays in the third quarter. The Broncos came out the second half. They had a 16 play drive. The Broncos went three and out. The Patriots got the ball back, kept it the rest of the third quarter went that the Broncos got the ball back for their second drive at the second half. It was all snow. It was all like the game, the game was completely different from the, I mean, the Broncos basically had one drive in the second half that didn't involve snow. But if we're being honest, Jared Stidham did a Max Brozmer. And that's why the Broncos aren't in the Super Bowl. He did the, he did, he kept drifting back. And, and Roma was pretending like this was normal. And, and, and he would just drift backward, which is like a practice thing when you don't get hit. And he did even 15 yards backwards and chess past the ball backward. And that was the only time the big, huge short day. He did it again. Yeah. In the second half, I know it, I feel really bad for Denver fans because outside of that place, Thidham was not terrible. And he, he like, shit down his leg for one play and it kind of ruined everything. And honestly, Sean Peyton not kicking the field goal when they're up 7 0 4th and one in the red zone. They go for it, they don't get it. They get that field goal. They're up 10 L. They might win this game. Yes, they probably do. And if they go 10, at least they lost by three. I mean, the last 10, 7. Yeah, they would have gone to overtime. Would have been 10 0. Yeah. It's brutal. I feel, I do feel for Denver fans. Like there's nothing to say. The bonix thing followed by this game that was in your hands is, is tough. Built a swan. It, the fact that he Stidham had to chess pass it makes it worse because he's running. And it's like, just take the sack. There is no reason to throw the ball. Just lose the yards. It's fine. And like, it's funny. This, I mean it when I say I'm acts Bros. You're trying to avoid really bad. And you create a catastrophe. Here's the thing. It's hard to, it's hard to avoid. He wasn't played in a regular game two years. There's like 285 pound dudes that can run four fives running at you. This is like, it's actually fucking hard to not make mistakes in the NFL. I, you know, that's like, I think, it's asking a lot to say just don't turn it over. It's like kind of what we said with Stroutune is like frustrating. At least Strout is the starter and had the entire season to practice and all that stuff. Like, you know, I mean, this is, it is a lot to ask for him to play a, to play a clean game. This is what backups do. Yeah. Yeah. Like this is why you don't, you know, he played okay and then he made a couple of stupid mistakes. Why is a backup? It's like 29 years old. Yeah. It's almost, and again, Stidham played well otherwise. Like if they didn't do that one play, we're probably talking here about, I mean, he had that one screen in the first half. We, he missed a screen in Marvin Mims that would have got like 20 yards. And he laughed and he kind of clapped. And I was like, that's actually a good reaction. You need him to not be down on himself. Next play comes back. Kids, Marvin Mims for 50 yards. That's a tough stuff. It's done. Quote. It's a perfect throw. And I remember thinking, okay, like this could really be a changing moment for like the whole Bronco season. Like they might go in the Super Bowl because he had a really well. First half, I was like Broncos are winning this thing. And it, it really, I don't want to put it on one play. May was shaky. Denver's D was good against May in the first half. They were kicked after on the first drive. He almost had a pick and did not, he did not look that great. Well, Fonga Bay did Drake May into throwing a slant. And Fonga just dropped it, man. He would have been walking in the end zone. And like that, the guy's the, the difference in this game, ironically, Craig, because you called this the big difference in this game was just Drake May running. Yeah. Like everything else was shit. This is what I wrote down in my, in my, in my notes. Terrible throws, terrible runs, terrible punts, terrible field goal attempts. That's what this game was. The only thing that was good was Drake May when he ran. Yeah. The fields were kind of good misses because Borg Hollis attempted a 63 yard field goal. And he missed and left the ball landed in the stands. And I'm like, how, how, how, how isn't there 10 yards between the goalpost in the stands? I'm like, so let me get it straight. This miss was 75 yards. I couldn't believe it. Like it landed in the third row. I was like, Holy shit, what a miss. They didn't replay it. I was like, am I the only one who cares that he missed the game? That's like, these farmers, like those home runs that just missed a foul pole. They like go out of it. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, it's like, he crushed that. Yeah, he's in the parking lot. I couldn't, I don't know what else cared about that for me. But the, I mean, the kicks were, it's too bad. I feel like you knew when Will Lutz lined up for one of those kicks. I'm like, man, Vrable is thrilled that he's lining up for kick and his squirreling win. But overall, it is incredible because if you just look at what the Patriots did not to just do the box squirre thing. But I'm like, the only touchdown they had was he did them, was, did them did the Max Bros. Berngaddy looked like a guy who was the first quarterback to ever play conference title game. And I'll take a snap that year. And then guess what? They came in and then immediately scored a touchdown. Because they got the ball at the, at the 12 yard. Yeah, Drake May run in a quarterbatch draw, which was a good play. They had 10 completions in this game. Take, I don't take that play out. Here's what the, here's what the page is. 86 yards. I know. This was like one of the worst offensive playoff games ever. I was going to say it's, here's what the Patriots did. If you take out that one time that he got a touchdown, because they got the ball to 12, three and out, punt, six and out, punt, three and out, punt that lost, they got 12 yards in the first 12 plays. Pun, punt, missed the field goal, which was a 63 yarder in the snow, 16 play field goal drive, missed the field goal, punt, punt, punt, and then they knelt to win the game. There was, you guys, there was 14 punts and three missed field goals in this game. This is, I think this is like maybe one of the last games ever watching a high school football. It was like two college basketball teams. It was the combination of label being this kind of old school coach in the Broncos, we're patents old school, but you have the backup quarterback and it's snowing. This feels like one of the last games, like this will ever see, because teams are building downs. I'm not saying we'll never see this again, but this is like a dying breed of football. Both teams averaged 3.2 and 3.1 yards per play in this game. Just brutal nine feet. Ultimately does it feel like the right AFC team is in the Super Bowl? And you have to factor in the bonus. Because of the injury, yeah, because of the injury, I think so. I think I probably agree. I mean, it's weird. The Patriots averaged this, off of this postseason, 15 offensive points per game and they made the Super Bowl. Yeah, but their defense was great too. I think if you look at what the Patriots defense did down the stretch, plus the Patriots beat a good charge of defense, a good Houston defense, and a good Denver defense. Well, we can point a game against those defenses. Well, they won. They won. Yes, because Stroud shit down his leg and they played your it's them. I mean, one of the games in front of them, you have to give them credit for that. But like, what do you want me to say? They scored 50 points against good defenses, which is underwhelming and they played shitty quarterbacks, but their defense was good enough to stop guys like Stroud and you have to give them credit for that. But like, I don't know, it's weird. I still don't know if the Patriots are good. If you want to just give to see AFC Super Bowl, that's fine with me. It's one of the easiest paths to the Super Bowl ever. It's unambiguous. And Patriots fans could get mad about it, whatever. Like, I'm very much giving you this credit for being situationally prepared and a very resilient team. And like, you're incredibly well-coached. And you have like all the offseason signings. Oh, that's true. Everything's good. But also, yeah, it's like CG Stroud melted down. And again, the defense is good, but the, I guess the way I'd say it is this, they, the Patriots have played 12 quarters in the playoffs. And they're the three hardest defenses they faced, right? It's the chargers, the Texas, the Broncos. We're through the better defenses. How many quarters of the 12 quarters did the Patriots play well in offense? Because I would argue it is one to maybe two of the 12 quarters, do they look good? They look pretty bad for 10 of the 12 quarters. I agree. But that's the, here's the thing though, this is the worst the Patriots are ever going to fricking be in the entire Drake May era. That's why it's like, I feel like it's, it's, it's, it's us criticizing the path and talking about it. This team, nobody thought was a Super Bowl team. Like, this was the DK was saying, like, this feels like a team that's like the year before they really make the lead. I mean, Matt Collins is their leading receiver. Like, they don't have anything going off. It's insane. They're offensive line is not good. Will Campbell's getting torched out there right now. And Super Bowl. I'm in hell. And that's my thing. Good. I'm here. So many Patriots fans were, we're mad at me. And I'm like, including my friends, but I'm just like, this is like if Washington last year had made the Super Bowl. Yeah, it's like, you know, you probably shouldn't be in the Super Bowl. So yeah, you'd be happy. You're in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Exactly. And I totally agree with everything again. We'll get you have a rookie left tackle who was on IR with a knee injury. Like a month ago, like you have another, like you're off into everything about the Patriots was a mess. And I can't, yeah, the Mac Collins being the receiver. It's all, it's actually insane. All making it even worse. If DK, if you guys can't get it fucking done and the Patriots win the Super Bowl again. I'm going to get it. No, start with that. Right. Deal with this. If the Patriots win the Super Bowl. Yeah, we're so fucked. DK's, I mean, hyphids is right. And you know what? All these pads fans, if they're mad at us right now, okay, beat the C-ox. I'll shut up. If you beat the C-ox, it'll be real. God. Simple as that. That's fucking good. If you could beat the C-ox, you deserve to win. Yeah. And we'll watch Darnal. We'll watch Vrayble figure out a break Darnal's brain again. I don't know. It's insane. I mean, just look, it's, it is cool. It's like, it's too bad because if, if it was 30 other teams, I'd be so happy for Drake, May and Mike Vrayble. I'd be over the moon. I just kind of hate the Patriots, but I am blown away. So funny to be that you hate the Patriots. You beat them twice in the Super Bowl. Yeah, and you develop a hatred playing a team in the Super Bowl twice. Like, like, like, you have no good reason to hate the Patriots. DK, let me tell you something. By the end of this two week period, once you spent a combined month of your life, rooting against one team in the Super Bowl, you will also, I think, hate the Patriots more than you did now. Okay. We'll see. I'm just saying. I just, I played one team in the Super Bowl of my life, and it was them. That makes you like more enemies. It's like the Cold War. It's like, you know what I mean? It's just because you won. Does it mean you're over it? I don't know. All right. Should we move on? Speaking of teams, I hate the Steelers. And well, yeah, but we do Steelers. Before we do anything else on this, you want to Steelers? We're going to talk about Tom Brady announcing this game. No, we could do Brady. I, I, I thought Brady was once again great. And I fixed him. I'm, I kind of want to guarantee this. Bollying war. Someone showed Brady the video of Craig making fun of him yelling. Because I was like, Brady was going to say, you're, because you know why Craig's impression that has been weirdly good doesn't work anymore. Because Craig, Brady doesn't do the yelling on speaker phone like a boomer anymore. He talks normally. And he started doing that four days after Craig made fun of him for it. And I actually think it fixed it because now Brady is totally fucking normal. He was really good today. And I thought he, he just feels, he feels calmer in the pocket. I think his anecdotes are relevant and they're not meandering. And he actually gives good insight. And he was talking about why JSN was getting open. And the way Kubiak was calling plays and how certain coverages were disguised. And all this great stuff. And you know, it's funny. He only slipped up one time. And it was when when they asked him about going to San Francisco to watch his Patriots play in the Super Bowl, he kind of frees up and reverted back to Robo Brady. And he was like, two great teams. I'm really excited to see the great players. I was ready for that. Yeah. I love Mike Vrabel. Team made a mind. And it was like, because he like got nervous. But the rest of the game, he was awesome. I thought he 100% last week he was good. And this was his best performance in the Andrew Martian, wrote a story at the athletic about this. It was a little P.R.E. But it also I think was right where basically the point was that Tom Brady prepared his an announcer last year and a lot of this year. And I think this season was similar. I think that he should just prepare, you know, like a quarterback and pretend he's briefing Josh McDaniel's not briefing. Like he was trying to dumb it down for people and doing impression of an announcer. And it's like, no one is interested in Tom Brady doing an impression of an announcer. We want to hear what you would say to Josh McDaniel's prepping for a game, which is what he does now. And like, I actually love the Anderson strip down the jar. He's like, that's a two throw. And I'm like, yeah, actually, reteach the entire United States of America how to talk about throwing footballs rather than bend how we talk about them. That's exactly what I want. He also had a little bit of like early Romo in him where he's starting to call stuff. Like, he'll see a flag and be like, that's a hold on the example. Like, Jay is in the backfield. He's like, he's the number one option. Why is the defense not doing it? And it's funny because it's like obvious, but he's just like, I don't get it. So he was great. He did some reps, you guys. It's literally like his football career is happening before I see. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to be the greatest soul of all time. He's going to be the he's actually he's like a year away from being the best ever. And also speaking of which it's weird because in the middle of the game, people were like, he's literally going to hire either Chris Schuler, the Rams, the fence accord that are probably going to be active sales up squatter. He's going to be the Raiders head coach. The way he was just talking about clinkubiac, you're like, kind of think Brady's going to hire him. Is it going to be like, like, remember the meme from the Raven Steelers final game of the year where it was like the upright. So it's like, he's going to hire our Tom one fired, hard by fired. Tom one fired. Is it going to be just because the COX ended up pulling that out that kubiac is going to like Xavier Smith fumbling that ball is why clink kubiac is going to be the head coach of the Raiders. Fucking goddammit. Yeah. This is going to suck for me personally because I really want to keep kubiac now. Not if you win the Super Bowl, you get over it. Well, it'll be fine ultimately. But yeah, I want to keep kubiac. He's been great. Yeah, Brady was great. Before we do the Steelers, the last thing I want to say is DK, you had an amazing intrusive thought and you I want to read this text. You texted a group chat. I think this is the funniest thing any of us have said all year. I like as an actual football observation. DK, you said, I don't understand how players hold on to the ball on any play. This is I've had this thought a lot of times because the force at which these guys get hit and punched and squished and picked up and thrown down. How was there not 30 fumbles of game? I actually don't understand the physics of it. Like you ever hold a hell of football. I mean, it's like, I feel like there would there should be at least 30 fumbles. It's really big. And it's a really big. Yeah. And it's like, there's so many plays where a guy's just running and there's three guys ripping and punching and trying to rip the ball out and he still manages to hold on to it. I had this thought like four times during the game where I'm like, oh, he's going to fall. You're so right. Hell, I do it. I'm like, how do you do that with one hand? I'm ripping at a laundry stance and every time he touches the ball. I couldn't believe it. I want to be in the game at the game. The snow. I was like, I got the thing. He's going to fumble this. I'm like carrying a football and somebody comes over and just does a peanut punch on me. I'm going to be like, ow, and then drop the ball. I'm like, ow, that hurt, man. This is the one thing. I this is another kind of like intrusive thought or whatever. The thing we don't really ever talk about is guys suffer injuries in games, but we don't really ever talk about how things just really hurt bad. I mean, like so many of these hits, these guys should be out of commission because it's like getting a body bow and boxing. You're not getting knocked out, but like, ow, that really fucking hurt. And I just need a minute to like take a breath. Yeah, like fingers to the face mask and five to zero. I would go 100% imagine if you hit your hand on a follow through and how would do. Jay is sitting there with the biggest fruze. It looks like he's bleeding open wood. Nobody's even telling him to him. And I'm like, if that happened to me, he's like doubled over on the sideline in pain. I'm like, he's fine. Get back in there. Dude, the peanut punch. I feel like we can it can evolve. I don't think you should punch the football. I think you should punch the guy's arm over and over and over and give him a dead arm to the point where he like physically can't feel his hands. Yeah, he can't flex. Like it's like it's like rocky going to draw goes right. It's like eventually it's going to give like like the leg kicks the leg kicks in MMA or whatever. You're doing just engaged. You just stand on my leg anymore. You know, like in high school, you take the need of the thigh that dead leg. Imagine if you get a carly horse, someone's shoulder over and over and over eventually he won't be able to grip the ball. Well, that's good. You know, they don't allow tripping, but we should do dead arm. That'd be good. Tripping is over the line. Dude, DK though. You talking about how they hold on to the ball. This weekend, I've been in cold weather before, but it was on my mind because of the Bears game, which was like 10 to felt, you know, it was like felt like 10 degrees. Walking around Park City last night, it felt like five and I truly I just can't believe that people play sports in weather like that. This is the thing that I've said this in the past, but dude, I walked like a minute zone to my coastal art coastal elites don't know what cold. You don't know what cold feels like until you're in the cold. I've had this in Indianapolis during the combine and it's not even that cold. I mean, it's very cold there. Like it'll be, I don't know what it's been like eight degrees or something like that. I guess in the big skimmy thing, it's not that cold. You've got to hide and you're like, my face fucking hurts. This hurts a lot. I don't know. How do you play a whole game in that? There was there was Matt Collins in Denver today was just wearing short sleeves. He's just like running around. He probably walked up to the stadium barefoot. These people are built differently. They're just it's crazy. He did like a like a chant from the movie The Warriors. He was walking in today. He had like bottle caps on his fingers and he was doing like the warriors come out to play. Matt Collins would is going to be an interesting cat after he graduates after he ever tires. I'm interested to see where he goes. What were the glass bottles on his hands? Why didn't he walk in? I know he doesn't. It's from the movie. You've seen the movie Warriors Greg, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's from the movie. The guy does in the movie. He has he clanks the bottles together. Is that you have see fight with the little brother's who fight each other? No, no, no. That's what warrior. The nickname movie. That's the warrior. That's a great movie though. Warriors is from like the 80s and it's about gangs in New York or whatever and they all have different uniforms. There's like the baseball guys that have bats and baseball uniforms. It's a very weird 80s. It's like a dystopian future New York and it's like filled with gangs and Manhattan. It's like. Matt Collins is wild. We got unpacked. We're going to have to unpack his Instagram over the next two weeks because we have to figure out content. But like Matt Collins's Instagram is fucking crazy because he does max hacks where he teaches you like here's how you should use baking soda to get stains out of your collar shirts without wrinkling the collar. And then he also does like max history where he's like did you know about this attack on Harper's Ferry in the 1800s by John Brown. But he also is very much like here's how you change a tire. But he's doing this like while preparing for the divisional round and I don't really know what he's dealing with. I feel like the Renaissance man. If he catches a touchdown in the Super Bowl in the Patriots win, I do think he will be a co-hosting of rewatchables in the next two months. He might do the re Warriors with Matt Collins. The re Warriors. Oh my god. Okay, wait, before we move on, it's the last thing. I just the Patriots. We have a lot of this. But again, I can't believe the Mike Vrable has as many wins since December 21st as the Titans do since he was fired. But the other one is that this is from David Fironi's. The Patriots are about to play their tenth Super Bowl since the dolphins last playoff win. Brutal. It's tough. It's actually like the most fucked up thing in the world that Tom Brady left like six years ago and they're already back at the Super Bowl. That's crazy. Every Patriot stat is unbelievable. I mean, dude, the things that just don't even like affect me roll off. I think this is Josh McDaniel's like, hey, this is like his seventh Super Bowl as a Patriot staff member. Do you think that Bill Bollochek is kind of pissed right now? Oh, he has to be for sure. He's like f**k this for sure. I'm sure Brady. I'm like, Mift. Brady picked that staffer to the MVP. That's awkward as hell. That's because he knows ball. But yeah, that's true. He's like, yeah, they're fraud. Look at this schedule. Yeah. Anyway, okay, we have a lot to we've a lot of pages. Stuff in the sea. It's going for DK. It's a good sea-robo match. It's a great match. It is. I'm excited for it. And again, it's you can't quantify the coaching and out of Rabel Verstarnalds. Just like Rabel Verstrowd. Okay. I can't believe the sea oxer and the sewer bowl man. No, weird. It's actually very surreal. It has not sunk in yet. Yeah, pretty crazy. Yeah, you know, you're asked what three sewer bowls in the last 15 years. Yeah, I'll take it. Not complaining. We've got to get to something else here, which is so Craig, I couldn't believe this. But you said, I believe that if the Steelers hire Mike McCarthy, you will root for the charges. Well, yeah, the Steelers hired Mike McCarthy. Yeah, the Steelers hired Mike McCarthy. Um, he's already back in. It sucks. No, I'm not at all. Oh, really? I suppose it's fun for content. But I thought about it. And I realized that the Pittsburgh Steelers hired the Pittsburgh Steelers of coaches. That's what Mike McCarthy is. He won a super bowl a long time ago. And since then has been associated with mediocrity, brutal playoff losses and questionable play calling. Who does that sound like? That sounds like Pittsburgh Steelers to me. All these Mike McCarthy stats, the Cowboys became the first team in the Super Bowl era to win 12 games in three straight seasons, but not able to reach a conference title game. That's a Pittsburgh Steelers ass stat. You know what I mean? I want a couple of gives. I will say I think what's crazy. My thoughts in order, I mean, there's all these weird things. One, it just weird that Mike McCarthy is hired to replace Tomlin and he's 10 years older than Mike Tomlin. Like that's weird. Is five years younger than Bill Cower. That's what? Wow. That's that's Bill Cower 68. Mike McCarthy 63. Dude, that's, you know, that reminds me of that's like how Al Gore is younger than any of the Democrats who ran for president in 2020. Like I was in Hillary or fucking illism for Warner Bernie Sanders or whatever. Uh, but I, you know what's crazy? I tell me if you guys disagree. I think there is zero chance Mike McCarthy gets this job if he's not from Pittsburgh. Correct. My intrusive thought that I was going to bring up the end of the show is I think we put way too much emphasis on where the hell people are from. I don't give a fuck that he's from Pittsburgh. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care that he's working with Omar Khan in Widel 25 years ago. I don't care about that either. Him being like, he knows the Pittsburgh way. He understands the culture and the people. I'm like, I don't give it. Where Sean McDeaf from? Dude, I don't it doesn't matter. It's actually. It's actually insane. This is, but it's, you say it as a joke, but it's, I, you, Jack, my fiance, it's family from Pittsburgh. This is such a Pittsburgh thing to care that he's from Pittsburgh. The people love it. It's like this biggest small town. And it McCarthy, it's the joke we made about the Steelers in Tomlin and we were like, it's the departed. When Matt Damon's like, look, I'm Irish. I'll do this forever. Like that is what the Steelers are doing. Where they're like, my Tom will do this forever. Can he pick it? They're like, we'll take the guy already works in the building. The pit facility is shared with the Steelers facility. They took the guy in the building. Joey Porter Jr. They just took them. They're like, we loved your dad. It's like, it's a, it's not a joke. Like it does matter to them. It's also all the stuff they put through in the media. Adam Schaeft, he was in his business morning, which obviously he's going to talk into the team. And he's talking about, he said he's from Pittsburgh in three different ways. And it's first six sentences. And that's a fucking crazy way to hire an NFL coach. This team, if it was sold, would get like $11 billion in his sale. They're a higher guy because he's from the town. Is there another town where this is so applicable? Apocopal? I feel like it's Pittsburgh. All we, this is always what happens with Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, it's just like, Steel City. You know, there's a, there's a, the Yinservives. I don't know what I'm raising. It's always Pittsburgh. Exactly. I'm sure there are other cities, but Pittsburgh is at the top of the list. It's maybe, maybe Texas, like some cities in Texas, it might be similar. I don't know. But Art Rooney, the second was talking and he was like, I don't, I don't want to have bad seasons. Like, I want to keep making the playoffs. Why would we stop now? Mike McCarthy is basically going to do what this, what we've all been complaining to Steelers. I've been doing the last 10 years, which is squeak out 910 wins and not get anywhere. I'll defend him for a moment. We always joke, I guess I always joke about the HR meme where it's like the hot guy can hit on women at work because you do the, but you like the record versus Harbaugh and the record versus Tomlin. Exactly. It's like you can't, the ugly, whether you can hit on people, you know, the HR meme is, it depends. And the truth is Mike McCarthy's John Harbaugh, but he weighs 80 more pounds. Well, and John Harbaugh is hot. He had Brett Farvin, Aaron Rodgers. So, okay. John Harbaugh and fucking Lamar Jackson. I'm just saying, look, look, I'm just saying. Oh, please, it's worth mentioning Mike McCarthy and John Harbaugh are basically the exact same age. Mike McCarthy's actually year 162. They've coached both 18 seasons. They have almost the exact same number of wins. It's like 18174. The win, the win percentage is identical. The playoff record is like almost identical. They have the same number of double digit wins, the same number of supermills that almost differ. They fly our part. They're both like 13. I'm just saying it is 20. That's all fair. I saw all those stats out there. Here's the difference. You bring in John Harbaugh to the New York Giants because the Giants can't win more than four games in a season. And you need somebody who can get you to nine or 10. The Steelers don't have that problem. The Steelers need somebody to completely change the culture and start fresh and build something new from the ground up. That is not what Mike McCarthy is here to do. How long is Mike McCarthy going to be the coach of the Steelers? What's the over under? Two and a half, Reena? No, 78. Seven years would be a lot, right? That's the seven years to be a long time. This is like 71, you know? I don't know if this was like, you know, they interviewed Chris Schuler. They interviewed, uh, Chille Haas, the the past coordinator for the Rams. They interviewed Anthony Weaver for Miami, the defensive coordinator, all these guys. And I heard they all didn't really well in the interview. And I don't know if the Steelers were like, we don't want a young guy or if maybe Chris Schuler is like, I don't want to go to the Steelers. This sounds terrible. But it's such a boring, uncreative decision to bring in Mike McCarthy and pray that he can that we can just like find some quarterback. They talk about his quarterback development. I don't know. I don't know where to go with that. I'm like, you had Brett Farvew and Aaron Rogers. What? What? What? What? What quarterback development? Mike McCarthy, I don't think she'd get credit for Aaron Rogers to be honest. And he certainly doesn't get credit for Dak Brezgat. They said in the interview that he he mapped out all the quarterbacks and he developed and that he mentioned Joe Montana on the chief. Did they mentioned right? Did they mention that Mike McCarthy? You know what? I again, Joe Montana on the chiefs, Mike McCarthy helped develop Joe Montana on the chiefs. Look, it's one of those things. Mike McCarthy won four Superballs. This is here's where I'm concerned. Mike McCarthy's a politician. Mike McCarthy, right? In his in his in his interviews, the Cowboys, he said he told Jerry Jones who his fucking face that he watched every snap of the 2019 Cowboys to prepare and that was that was a lie. We got to post this on Instagram. The first the first thing Mike McCarthy said, he's doing the opening press conference, Jerry Jones and the first question Mike McCarthy is about, did you actually watch every play of every game last year? And Mike McCarthy's like, oh, now you gotta say you gotta say get the job right? It was like, the first thing he said is the Cowboys coach. He's like, Fudge and his LinkedIn like a college grad. It's ridiculous. He said, Craig, he didn't he didn't say I was just wondering this because I was like, did he say that he watched every play of the Cowboys? He said he watched every play of the entire season for every team. Yeah, that is what I was saying, which is like, come on, that would take a while. This just feels weird. I hate it. I don't know what to do. This stinks. I'm so upset. I really genuinely thought we were going to hire Chris Shula or Anthony Weaver. Like I would have put a lot of money on that. Mike McCarthy wasn't even on my radar. When I heard this man interviewed, I was like, why are they doing that? Does it make a wish? Because he's from Pittsburgh. There's no way that's going to happen. The Steelers, Bell Cower, Mike Tomman were these like defensive minded guys in their 30s. These like young guys, they wanted to like let build something from the ground up. And now it's like, oh, maybe we'll get Rogers back with McCarthy. Cool. We'll have the 20th pick again for the next five years. I will say I see the Steelers being like, well, they won 12 games three years in a row. And so, like we want to be competitive. You should look up how those games ended. What they're there season. Well, look up how those seasons ended. Horrifically, I remember I remember they got the shit kicked out of my green bay in the floor. And then the diners one ended with them. Zeke Elliott as a center. And then the one before that was also against the diners. And that was when they couldn't spike the ball in 19 seconds. And then the same day or the same weekend, the Chief's got the field goal in 13 seconds. And then the Cowboys couldn't run at fucking spike in 19. So that's the thing is the lack of detail oriented has been the hallmark of McCarthy. Also, the Cowboys team took over incredibly talented. They still had a good line at that time and they had Dak Prescott. And that's way more than the Steelers have right now. I don't know if the argument is like, we don't want to bring in some young mind when we have nothing going on at quarterback. And they're going to be screwed. And we want to bring in McCarthy to like help identify that quarterback and bridge that gap. And so it doesn't turn into like Brian Debel on the Giants where it's like a good, an offensive mind, but it didn't work because they didn't have the quarterback for a while. Or like Arthur Smith going to Atlanta, who was like at the time, supposed to be this great offensive mind and it crashed in burn because he had like old Matt Ryan and Desmond Ritter. Maybe they're like, we don't want to do that to a young coordinator. And Mike McCarthy is the guy who can help us like develop Will Howard and and try to draft a guy that he sees and and bring him up. Maybe. But to me, it's just more of the same in Pittsburgh. Do you think that Rogers is going to play again? I don't know. I have no idea. Don't they hate each other. I'm confused. But I can't remember the timeline. And if Rogers got him fired or not. Well, I thought they hated each other, but it was a long time ago. So I'm like, maybe Rogers comes back, but I also don't have it. You know, it was a while ago. But they certainly have run their course in 2018. It was also like it was one of those, I don't know. I mean, Mike, but it's important to remember the reason that Mike McCarthy was fired, but that packer season, I believe it was after Cardinals game, but I could be wrong about that. But like it was the offense. It was funny. It was so outdated. And Rogers won M2 MVPs in a row as soon as Mike McCarthy was fired. And like, that's important to remember is like Matt LaFlure came in and Rogers immediately won two MVPs in a row. It is also worth noting that I kind of think the Cowboys were much better this season without Mike McCarthy. I know they didn't make the playoffs. But overall, with what Brian Schott and I'm was handed, I think the Cowboys offense was like completely modernized. And they started doing motion and they started doing things. I know they brought church pickens in, but I think Shotheimer did a lot of good stuff with Dallas this year. I know they didn't, but I mean, he took over a seven win team. I don't know. I it's just funny. That's all. I'm giving Mike McCarthy absolutely zero breathing room this year. The second he does one thing wrong, I'm going to be on his ass. Like Brady. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He has zero margin for air. He better come in and turn Will Howard into deck price got immediately or else I'm going to be. We'll. Yeah. Okay. All right. So we are going to be doing we're still doing three shows a week. We cover also the entire off season. So after the playoffs, we still do free agency. The draft. Eddie Killey is a draft guy coming out this week. mock drafts. Yeah. DK's are draft experts. He studied. You watched every play of the entire cultural policies right? One is 34th. FBS teams every single snap of every single job. You know, I watched every single snap. But you actually are you actually do do our big board here at the ringer and you do like our draft coverage and your crush and you have the best player comps in the game. So we're going to have mock drafts or DK and a draft guy this week or go through the little bit of draft one of one. So stick with us for the entire off season trades for agency. Everything. Yeah. So I mean, we're going to have more shows. We have we have funds. A lot of fun stuff coming the next month in particular going to the combine later in February. Before we get out of here, I want to Craig you're at Sundance. We haven't talked to it this at all. But do you have any cool Sundance? Can you explain what Sundance is Sundance is a film festival started by Robert Redford like 40 something years ago and sadly Robert Redford died a few months ago. And so this is the last festival in Park City, Utah. They are moving to Boulder, Colorado next year. It's been in Utah for 40 plus years. Redford wanted it to be here. There's rumors that it's Matt Bellany who hosts the town that I produced. He jokes that the rumors that Robert Redford started it in Utah because he wanted all these like Hollywood. Yep. He's to have to like schlep out to Utah on the freezing cold and like freeze their asses off with watching movies. But it's like it's one of the most important independent film festivals in the country and they produce amazing documentaries all five of the best documentary Academy Award nominations this year all came from Sundance. Oh, well. So how does it work? So they're trying to get bought by us. They're they're airing it and someone made the film that they're trying to get it distributed. They're like, I don't I don't know. Yes, it's changed a little bit lately. It used to be like, yeah, you scrounged up money. You made a movie. You submitted it to Sundance. The committee at Sundance watches thousands of films. They picked the ones they think are the best. They get shown at the festival and then companies like Paramount and Warner Brothers and all that they come and watch. And they're like, that was really good. We want to make a bid on it. They buy it. And then they distributed across thousands of theaters and they make money on it and that's how it work. Now it's gotten a little different where like some films are already sold and they just like put it here to because it's good PR. Proceeds. Yeah. But there are still like I went and saw this film last night that Olivia Wild directed called the invite and it was fantastic. One of the best movies I've seen a long time and it's a bit of a sold. It's it's about it's a remake of a Spanish movie from 2020 based on a play and it's two couples having a dinner party and that's it. It's four couples in an apartment the whole movie. It's a little remake of a movie from five years. Oh, it was in Spanish. It's a Spanish film from 2020. But based on a play that came before that. It's just two couples having a dinner party and it's Seth Rogan and Olivia Wilder a couple and then it's Penelope Cruz and Avonora are a couple. Average SEC couples. And like Seth Rogan and Olivia Wilder. It's it's it's it's it's really funny and smart and great. But anyway that movie did not come in with a with a with a distributor or like a studio attached to it. So now it's like who's going to bid on it Netflix Apple Warner Brothers 824. So it's cool to see the buzz like everybody was basically talking about that movie last night after we were going out and stuff and it's kind of cool to hear like that. But so that's what Sundance can do and Olivia Wilde is like a proven star. It's cool to see some of the smaller people who break through here and then turn into something. You know Ryan Kugler and Chloe Zhao did the Sundance training seminars here. So they still like build a lot of stars here. That's awesome. Yeah. What's the and then the nightlife is all crazy too when you go out. Yeah, it's basically like one street on it's like one four block area and it's just packed with bars. You know it's weird because it's Utah. So it's like there's like caps on how much you can drink and usually bars close super early. But like all these companies just like take over and people just party till like four in the morning. There's like a town nightclub that opens up here over Sundance and people like party till 6 a.m. I'm not doing that. But well surely. Yeah, I know it's only 915. So maybe I got to go. But yeah, the nightlife here is really cool. I mean, and also people the skiing is amazing. It's right near Dear Valley. It's like it's going to say the best skiing in America. So that's the other reason why you know, Hollywood people come out here and watch is that where is that where rubber effort had his home in Park City or is one of his many he did live in Park City, but you know, I'm sure he had quite quite a few home. Yeah, yeah. Cool. It's cool. And it's moving to Boulder, Colorado. You know what was there was cities bidding on it. We should have like we should have talked about this like it was the NFL draft. There were cities bidding on Sundance. It was like Santa Fe, New Mexico, Boulder, Colorado. And the and Cincinnati Cincinnati was the final two was between Boulder and Cincinnati. Well, they're really they invested major stuff. The tennis tournament Cincinnati is like trying to like separate itself into just being like a major. I think it's I think the Bengals are pouring more money to local infrastructure and they want that tennis tournament to be like the biggest American tennis tournament because it's the one before the US Open and they're like these to be an event and they're they're doing a really good job. Actually, the Cincinnati tournament's like a way bigger deal now. Austin lived in Austin lived in Cincinnati. It's right. He's probably crushed that skyline chili. He ate that every night. We go. Emile is about more I'm sitting infrastructure stuff. Cool. I actually don't do that. It's pouring unless it's cool. Unless it's cool. Um, okay. Uh, do you guys, well, I guess before we get at it, can I read like one email? Let's do it. So, um, this is from Anthony. A lot of people emailed us. Tony, T-Bone, Tony. So it's about a Alpe, Craig had a whole thing on Alpe Chino dry swallowing pills. Oh, yeah. I'm the movie two for the money. Two for the money. He dry swalls the pills and you were saying, not just how we can do it laying down, but how quickly it works. So Anthony emails in about that scene. A lot of people said it, but what he's such what, um, Pichino's taking in that movie is, uh, nitroglycerin tablets, which if you're wondering, he said that the bomb stuff. Yes. That's exactly what nitroglycerin is. And it's sublingual nitroglycerin tablets, which dissolve in your spit and absorb into blood vessels in your mouth, which is why they do work almost immediately. Not as quickly as Hollywood says, but it is like within a minute or two. It's not like five seconds, but the nitroglycerin tablets, they do like, I guess, expand your blood vessels for blockages and they do work almost instantly. Okay. Oh, so he's not even swallowing the put like, oh, okay. That's interesting. But yeah, that's fascinating. And I had no idea. However, that trope exists like well beyond that movie of like the detective who's like down on his luck and divorce. And he's always like shoving pills in his mouth in the car. Like they do. I don't know. I can dumb and down. There's there's in the professional Gary Oldman's character is like a whole thing about taking pills. Yeah, I forget what movie I was just watching. I was like, I know. The new airplane movie, we're leaving these such as popping pills and getting copies. Oh my god, it's so good. All these cops, all these old cops are sucking down dry pills. Did I already say this? They could all flip the cap with just one finger too. Like, you know, like you're working it. It takes me a child to push like not easy. You got to fucking do it with two hands and really try to get those caps off. I think at the one finger, it's just man, they're built it back there. Pop it off. There's like four or five in the palm. Shoot them. Go about your day. And you're like in the middle of a conversation doing it. Smoking a cigarette. Yeah, they do it while the cigarettes in their mouth. They swallow the health of mouth. My favorite thing. My favorite thing in movies is like he said cigarette next to where people are just doing shit with a sig in their mouth. Like, oh, it's the dude. Peaky blinders mad man, dude, people people doing stuff with like old school just bond to when the iron cross with the cigarette. Stolen. Stolen. Saving private Ryan. Oh my god. I need to do I wish I could just dangles cigarette in my mouth. The 1917 sergeant in the fucking trench just like explaining. Yeah, no, just walk way too. You could smell the dead horse and he's just got a cigarette like this reminds me. This reminds me. We should I we buried the plot here. Way, way, way, way, way. This is how it's made the super bowl with the suit. It's the actual made the super bowl it relatedly and Sam Darnel was really good in this in the NSE championship game, by the way. Relatedly, this is something that we've talked about on the show, but I feel like we haven't brought it up recently enough. Sam Darnel's grandfather was named Dick Hammer. Yeah. Dick Hammer and he was the frickin Marboro man. He was the first Marboro man. How do you say that word? Marboro. Who's the first Marboro man? The Marboro man. That's pretty sick. Like the cowboy. I know Dick Hammer dude and he was an attractive dude. Dick Hammer. Dick Hammer. Dude, his name's Dick Hammer. Scott of either best. We got to ask Darnel this in Super Bowl. We got it. We got to we got to get someone asked where we got to get either maybe we get Mike Sean to do your task. Yeah, we're like we're like Sam. What's like the craziest name you've ever heard? He's like, um, Dick Hammer. What about Dick Hammer? What about Dick Hammer? Who was an athlete, actor and firefighter and the Marlboro man? I want to see Sam Darnel without a beard. Does he have a sneaky nice jawline? There's a lot of pictures of him without a beard I think. Well, I mean, he grew the beard because there was a famous thing that an NFL scout said when he came out of the draft that Darnel had a bad face. That was like, they thought he couldn't be a quarterback, bad face. That was like in a team's notes. Sam Darnel was probably, you know, slimmer. There's a lot of pictures of him with that. Oh, yeah, you got to say the beard helps. The beard plays. He's got quite the chin. He has a marble. He has like a, he has like a red, he's a ginger beard. Yeah, I mean, he's a ginger. Well, yeah, it's not like he's not a full ginger. Ginger, his beard is the most, I mean, he has red hair, doesn't he? Well, I don't know, it's kind of like strawberry blonde or something brown. People with red hairs hair is not actually red. Some of it is. It's like strawberry blonde usually. Sometimes, sometimes people are straight up real red. Anyway, this is a scintillating, scintillating conversation. Consider him a redhead, but I know what he's saying. He doesn't look like Ron and Harry Potter. I get what he's saying. No, he's not caretop, but no one's caretop. I know nothing about caretop. What is, what is his deal? I don't know. He's a comedian. He's a comedian. He's a prop comic, right? Isn't that his thing? Yeah, he's like the second generation of Gallagher. So he's just, well, Tony, so Gallagher was like, I'm just the first person to figure out. I'm going to hate watermelons. I can't find a jammer. It's loads. Gallagher. Mike McCarthy loves to bring watermelons into the thing and hit him with sled jams. But caretops. So he just has a Vegas residency and is rich and jacked and just does that every day. People go see caretop and Vegas. He's still there. He is. He still has a residency in Vegas. I'm going to send him a con this year, which is in Vegas, and Matt wants us to go to care. What? Get the fuck out. He's the most legacy thing we could do. And he's like, cause, uh, and he wants to see, cause last year we saw, um, um, oh, I might blank in the famous musician. I mean, sorry, the famous magician who's, who's been in Vegas forever? Chris Angel? No, no, no. David Dane? No, DK. I mean, I was thinking sick-free to Roy with like the Tigers. Oh my god. Famous musicians, other famous musicians. Chris Angel. Yes. The famous Vegas magician. He's very famous. David Copperfield's dead. Is it David Copperfield? No, he's not. He's alive. David Copperfield's alive. I just tried to kill Copperfield. Yeah, he's like 70 and I saw a show and it was, it was a little David Copperfield is alive. He's 69. Why have I not, am I the only one who thought David Copperfield was dead like years ago? The greatest trick he ever pulled on you. Maybe it's because there's a novel by Charles Dickens named David Copperfield. There is. Yeah, that's gotta be why. I think I got that back. Which was written in 1849. I thought he was so old. Yeah, Matt is like every time we go, what the fuck is with it? He's like, what's the most Vegas-y thing we could do? So we saw David Copperfield last year and he wants to see Carrot Top this year. This is a really good question. What's the most Vegas thing? Because wouldn't it be, shit, what's the thing? The, not like the spirit. No, it's like French Canadian, the French Canadian singer, what's her name? I'm the greatest thing I in the world. He's like Celine Dion? Yeah. I think you gotta go like a Celine Dion show or something. Yeah, that's a great one. It's like what's like the most old school? I mean, I think personally, Cirque du Soleil to me is what I think of when I think of Vegas. Like going to Cirque du Soleil show. Cirque du Soleil show. I'm on a joke. I'm on a joke. I'm on a joke. I'm on a joke. I'm on a joke. Craig, because this is, I remember going to Cirque du Soleil back when I was blogging for field goals. I was blogging on the Seahawks back in like 2013, 2014. And I went to a Cirque du Soleil show and I was like, I need to be blogging about this. This is better than anything I've ever seen in my fucking life. These people are the best athletes I've ever seen. Dude, should we go to Cirque du Soleil? The shit they do is mind boggling. Is it? I was giving on shrooms. Oh, we got, can we do shrooms and go to Cirque du Soleil? I mean, that would be stealing a bit, but yes, we should. Who's bit? Paul Radden, Seth Rogan did it in, oh, yeah, this is 40 or whatever. They went to Vegas and took shrooms and yeah, I just recommended his movie. It's fine. They'll get over it. I also, I'm reading David Copperfield's Wikipedia and it says since 2016, David Copperfield has campaigned for congressional resolution 642, which would quote, recognize magic as a rare and valuable art form of national treasure. I mean, look, I don't disagree with that. He, he was so, he had clearly been doing this exact act for so many years at consecutive, I think he does like two shows and nine 15 shows a week. I'm 15 shows a week. Dude, he, he finished his sentence before he starts the next one because it is so baked into his brain. Like, I can't describe to you how much he was just going through the motions. Like, no one even needed to be there. He was just like, breathe him. It was literally like air to him. He does that many shows. Yeah, they're not long. They're like an hour. I don't understand. I, and I, maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think I've seen a video of David Copperfield in my entire life that was from like the last 20 years. Everything I've seen of him from the 80s. I can't believe he's alive and also looks fine. He looks like the mayor in fucking dark night. Yeah, he's got a nice head of hair. When I think of Vegas, I think of like Wayne Newton. Yeah, that's a great one. Oh, it's Wayne Newton alive. I think he might have not. I'm thinking I think he's alive. He's 83 Tony, Tony Bennett is the one who passed Tony Bennett. No, Wayne Newton is a great call. Okay. Tony Bennett was old classic. He's like in his 90s, right? Yeah, Wayne Newton, I also think of like family guy sketches, you know, Conrad, and Wayne Newton, and some shit. Wayne Newton. What a name. Wayne Newton. God. Do you think we could ever get like a Vegas residency for doing our podcast? That's what these guys do. They just perform in Vegas and now every day and they just live in Vegas. Oh, yeah, I thought of another one. This one, this one we might actually have to go to if we go to Vegas, the Blue Man Group. Oh, that's number one. That's the most Vegas. Also, all time arrested development bit is like he just Tobias, Trots and James. I blew myself. Yeah. Dude, Blue Man Group. So what do they do? They play music. They played drums and shit. There's a whole show. I don't know. There's also like, there's also a ton of shows and I'm just looking through it now. There's a ton of like burlesque shows and new, new to these shows and what I, which I've figured for adults only guys. So be careful. Well, so the blue man, are they musicians that do the costumes? Are they like costume performing and they play music? No, they're musicians that do that dress up in all blue paint. Are they the most famous thing in the world that nobody would know what they look like? I've never been to a blue man group to be clear. But I think they're like really, really good drummers. But is anyone more visually iconic that you like see them? You're like blue man group, but that 0% of people know what they look like. Like you, you can know so much. Probably 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. They're probably nondescript dudes and there's probably eight of them and then three of them play an ever show. I mean, there's probably been 80 of them. It'd be a great trivia question to say how many, how many people have been in the blue man group? Do they sing? You know, that is a trivia question. Do they put paint in the drums and they hit them in the paint flies everywhere? No, I think that was stomped. Yeah. What do they do? So they are a non-verbal stage show in featuring bald blue painting characters that blend comedy, music, and performance. It's either mine. It's either mine. Yes. And they're doing like physical gags kind of thing. Yeah, I guess. I still believe imagine putting on that goddamn paint every single day of your life. Tonight, it's like Jim Carrey with the Grinch. It's like, did he almost have a nervous breakdown? Every time I see that like Jacob, Alority, and Frankenstein, he's like, every day it took eight hours to put the makeup on. I'm like, Jesus, what the? Maybe we should use AI, my god. That's no way to wait. That's, that's horrible. Oh my god. Anyway, go watch Frankenstein now on Netflix. I desperately want to go watch the blue man group now. Oh, god. All right. The emails about the blue man group. Okay. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you. Thank you. For email us at ringer fantasy football gmail.com. Thank you to Olivia Newton John who I slated earlier. Thank you. You have to give context of that. Right. That was on our text. DK, all right. Fine. DK, shout her out at the end. Thank you to everyone who listening. Yes. Stick with us on Netflix. Spotify. Wherever you're watching us. We're here all the rest of the playoff Super Bowl off season. We have honestly, I think the show gets more fun. If you enjoyed anything, we just did less 15 minutes. It's probably more fun now than during the season. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you to Olivia Newton John. So during the season. So, yeah. Tom Brady. Tom Brady on the broadcast is saying, let's get physical, physical. And KB was laughing. They were having a good time. And then Hi, if it's Texas, oh my god, Tom Brady, just saying to do a leap of song. Well, she has a song called physical and she kind of, it seems ripping off a Levy Newton John. So I got confused. Right. She doesn't sample it. They're different. They could sound different. They're different songs. But like, I was this word better worse than my Pukinakua was actually out of bounds. And this should have kind of played the game. Nothing was worse than that, which is tough to talk. He's just so arbitrary. Hi, if you know what father actually, you don't bother me about it. What the quarterback was just winding the clock and the ref looked at him. I was like, you're right. And he made the decision of that. Yeah, that happens a lot. Nobody looked at the lot of you. You're right. I mean, when when Frickin, uh, Rick Woolen got the penalty from talking shit to the line to the Rams sideline, to Vante Adams went up to the ref and was like lobbying for it. And the ref pulls out his flag and throws it. Shit happens all the time. I were all human beings. I have, including referees, hyphen. We've been doing the show long enough. Have we found out what to Rick Woolen said? No, uh, no. He better have been threatening people's families for him to get that flag. Oh, he, Rick Woolen dodged the biggest bullet on this one, man, because he would go down. I mean, if CX had lost that game, he would have gone down as one of the all-time. Well, at first, like, go goats in a negative sense. At first, I thought he really crossed over like the sideline, and was like on the Rams bench, which I was like, you know what? That should be a flag. You can't allow that to happen. But then the replay, the wide shot, he took like one foot on the sideline, and was talking shit. And I was like, I don't know. Can't have that in the game, Craig. Think of the children, Craig. You can't go like, you can't just go into the bench and talk shit, but like, he was right on the sideline. How many plays in a game? Do they do that? Probably like 25 to 30. There's it happens like every drive. I think it was because like Sean McVeigh was more on the field than Rick Woolen. Like, Woolen was closer to the Rams bench than McVeigh. So it was kind of weird. It felt like he was more in the mix than I was. Was it illusion? Yeah. So it's an optical illusion. It's kind of like Lord of the Rings where they were shooting it. They're like, they're actually really far apart or something. It's like, yeah, McVeigh's proximity made it closer. Also, by the way, one of the most bad ass things ever I've seen is him getting that penalty, and then the Rams turning around and going right at him and scoring a touchdown. Like that to be, if I was a Rams fan, God, that's can't get better than that right there. That was sick. Obviously, it pissed me off because I wasn't a Rams fan, but I can respect it. Yeah, so I'm sorry, Olivia Newton, John. Sorry. Dame, Olivia Newton, John, by the way. Dame? One of the highest selling artists of all time. Huh. What does Dame mean again? It's the kind of part to serve. Oh, it's certain Dame. So, but that's not OBE that's just knighted. I don't know. I think there's different versions of OBE is above a knight or below. I just know OBE from Peaky Blinders. You expect me to know this? I don't know. I don't know. You're sorry. I don't know any of the types of titles. Titles, titles, titles. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw Megan Markle last night. Also, she's on the girl. Really? Fucking guy. I'm like, oh, from Spotify, remember? Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I work for the ringer. She, no, she introduced a movie that she produced about Girl Scout cookies and documentary. A documentary about Girl Scout cookies? No. And? The doc was really good. Cute little girls who are like adorable and you fall in love with all of them. It's like great stories. However, it does kind of make the Girl Scout organization feel a little soulless. I gotta say. It's like, man, we're really putting these girls to work to sell these damn cookies. I know. It's kind of like what's going on here? It's just like a pyramid scheme with all these. I will say, well, you know, there's like an 11 year old, though, who's like, I feel a lot of pressure to sell these cookies and I need to do this. I'm like, God, this is. Oh, my God. I don't know. My best teachers. I'm entrepreneurial ship. Craig. You know, my Girl Scout cookies take. Should I do this now or should you do this? Girl Scout cookies are good. I've been thinking about you want them year round. What is it? I just, I think I don't like where this is going. All right. No, it's worse than my puketake. I'm going to keep it in the holster. No, come on. People demand it. I just think Girl Scout cookies are like the worst kind of cookies. And if they were good enough to be sold year round, they would be, but they're not. So they aren't. They're not good cookies. They're like all in the the problem. They're guilty. They're guilty. Are you talking about? I'm buying them from Girl Scout that I have so basically you're at adult. You're not supposed to eat cookies, but like you buy them from a Girl Scout. So you're like, you're a good person. And when you eat it, so it's what you're paying for is you're paying for the excuse to eat cookies and not feel bad about yourself. And what an exchange you're giving up is quality because they're lesser. Like the chocolate peat, the tag alongs aren't as good, thin minutes or second thin minutes. I agree with that. All the other cookies just aren't as good. They're not restaurant quality cookies, but they're really good. You're saying like other store bought bags of cookies or any of their not like chips of white. They're better than chips of white. They're not good cookies. Like they're not they're not good. They're just the guilt. I agree that I agree that they capitalize on scarcity. And they know what they're doing where it's like it's cookie season. You got to get them now. And if they were just available at the store every day, probably wouldn't do no chance. No chance. And then look, are the margins probably pretty thin and they they cheap out on the ingredients? Those cookies, perhaps, but I don't think they're bad. I like a Samoa, like a thin man. They're not bad, but they're it's like, Cookies, no cookies are bad. No pizza is bad. We're talking about cookies that come in a bag. What's better than a Girl Scout? But what is 10 times better than a Girl Scout cookie that comes in a bag? Orius. Not in close. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah, but orios are like the goat cookie orios give orios. Stale Oreos are like age. You can compare to orios. Get better. I think fair. Orios is like MJ. That doesn't count. The tag alongs are great. That was my jam. I like that because chocolate and peanut butter is incredible. What I'm saying is it's like the worst version of chocolate but peanut butter, which is still good. The dosing dose. Those are great. You know, I don't really like the I'm just looking at the different ones. I just go thin minutes out the freezer. Rip those. That's kind of of a move. Thin mint. I will not fight you when thin minutes out the freezer. But that's what I'm saying. It's like the lowest version of a guy. I think tag alongs are on the Rushmore for bag to cookies. Well, hi, if it's next time you see a cute little eight-year-old girl tell her you're taken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're cookie suck. You sit on a throne of lies. You don't smell like Santa. You smell like beef and cheese. Oh my god. All right. Goodbye, everyone.