#Throwback Episode - w/ DJ Clark Kent | (Ep.72)

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We're going to be a very deeous New Year's Eve. We're going to be a very deeous New Year's Eve. We're going to be a very deeous New Year's Eve. We're going to be a very deeous New Year's Eve. We're going to be a very deeous New Year's Eve. We're going to be a very deeous New Year's Eve. We're going to be a very deeous New Year's Eve. We're going to be a very deeous New Year's Eve. Oh, D&D Studio. You do not have to explain. D&D never had AC. I don't remember D&D. I have an AC. I don't remember having, um, uh, uh, what is it called? The termite people like exterminators? Exterminator. They never had exterminators. And D&D, big up for me, I got damn it. But keeping hip hop hip hop. We just have to put me in and P rock on here. Classic. But before we get into the head, we started this thing saying that we wanted to keep legends and hip hop alive. Today marks our first episode. We ever dropped March 25th. We don't know when we were dropping this episode. But March 25th was our first episode. This is our anniversary. We hardly didn't know what we were doing. But you, with my boy too. And, and with our boy. What's that? With Joe. That's right. That's right. That's right. You used to call it Joe. That's a cool joke. Give me your phone. That's how they pour in Barry. You getting that rich? Make sure you get that good. Slow motion. This is how they pour in the Barry. Be seen. So, Clark, I want you to take us to the beginning. The beginning of the career. Like, what did you start? You don't know him right now. You guys can't, you can't, like, you're like me and you're open. Like, right now I'm interviewing. It makes sense. It makes sense. I thought it was a producer first. Oh, you started as a DJ. I'm a DJ first. A thousand percent. Like, I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, I'm a DJ first. That's it. Everything that has to do is based off for me being a DJ first. Okay. And who was the person you looked up to as a DJ? I would probably, if I had to say the most, I would say Larry LeVan. But before that, the first person I actually would say I looked up to as a DJ. Or I looked at him and went like, he's the guy with Grandmaster Flowers. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What's wrong? I think I'm saying Grandmaster Flowers. Grandmaster Flowers. Yeah. Never heard of him. I was 39 years old. Yeah, not tell us who he is. Yeah, Plasma. He's the legend in Brooklyn. Wow. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. Okay, that's great. I was older than him. I was older than him. And I was also always around popping them. So me and him was, I knew he was a dope MC. That there was nothing confusing about it. Now you met him early on. I met him like, I met him in the CD. Yeah, I met him then. I met him earlier. Okay. And earlier than the reggaed is. Like when he went to, when he was on stretching Noriega, I mean, stretching a bbito. Like I knew who he was at that point. Now, what sky's the limit? You did that, right? Yes, I did. That wasn't the first joint you did for big, right? That would be the first joint I did that was his record. But he was on Junior Mafia Records out. I executed a producer album with him. We did that together. Okay, we're going to go back to that. What sky's the limit? One of my favorite things. Thank you, brother. And today is 25th. And today is 20th anniversary. Like after that, correct? Yeah. And that's makes the noise of that. Yeah. Anybody smoking? Yeah. Because I'll be doing on Dream Channel. Camera show. Fuckin' ho. I'm a joke, you man with the horn. So, I'm just gonna... I'm showin' you. So, again. So, sky's the limit. Now, big calls you and say you want to be... Oh, month calls you and how does this happen? We were on tour. Okay, thank you. And he goes, let's start. He wants to make records for Junior Mafia. And he goes, when we come back, when we go home, when we come back, just, you know, bring some music. So, I brought some music. And it was on the bus. And we were going through tracks for Junior Mafia. And he heard it. And he wanted it for himself. It's sky's the limit. Yeah. And then... And then... I went straight to the studio. No, actually... Like I said, we were working on Junior Mafia. The idea to Junior Mafia is that we didn't even have a really set plan that this was going to go down. It was, I want to make it happen on Junior Mafia. Hold up. Mr. Lee, what's up, man? We recorded. There's no simple lemonade. Just get it. Talk is very Hollywood. We got to get him simply Hollywood. Lemonade. How are we going to see these lemonade? This is dope. We're calling the barcap. Hold up. No, you're sick. But, you don't got simply lemonade. Just get him chop a cap. Lemonade, man. Just lemonade. And Fiji water. Please. Fiji water with the red top. No, no, no. I fucking win. He's the man of kids. I can't even... I can't even... I can't even... So, that's your man who is driving? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the fucking best, yo. Mr. Lee. He's the best. Big up with Billy. So, you do sky's the limit. No, like I said, we were on tour. And I brought him some music back when we was going... When we went back on tour and he heard it, he said he wanted it. And I thought he actually was saying he wanted it for Junior Mafia. But then I figured out... Or we figured out that he didn't want it for Junior Mafia at all. He wanted it for himself. And I kind of was like, well, you can't have it. Because one, I had given it to Ock. What? Yeah, it was Ock's beat. I think Ock did tell me that I told you he was a liar. Damn. Damn, I remember him telling me that. Wait, wait, wait. You know what? You know it's crazy? If a story involves you, me, and Ock, you never call them a liar. Yeah, I know, I know. You should have... Come on, go ahead. I know, that's very true. It's very true. I'm never a thing about it. Come on, poppy. You know, fuck is Panamania. Don't turn the corner. He's Panamania. You know what? You're going to start repping your name on that deal. We're going to start repping your name on that deal. You were fabulous. You're going to make it all. You were the one who was garbage. You were the one who was garbage. That's your name as Poppy. Yeah, that's it. You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? That's right. That's right. Let's mix some more to that. I got that. I got that. So was you there when Sky's the limit? Was recorded? Half of it. I recorded the beat. And then it went to... It went to... What you call it? It went to... To Pub Studio. And then it came back with the vocals. And... And then it went back again because he was like... He was going to put 112 on it because he had the hook by himself at first. And then it went back to get 112 and then it came back to the studio where I was at. And I mixed it. Wow. But he was there for the mix and everything. So now let me flip and bounce it on you. You also knew two pockets, well. Yeah. You knew early two pockets. Yeah. Just described that. Like, the described the difference from early two pockets to the two pockets that, you know, people know that. Did you do underground two pockets? Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, in digital underground he was being who he wasn't digital underground. He was dancer sometimes rapper and hype man, you know. I mean, he was happy to go like he got. Right. And did you meet the def row two pockets? Yeah. Yeah. So, it's described it. I know you talking to me. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You talking to me. You talking to me. Like, he's looking at me like, look at you know. But not anything. He's just changed from death row. He changed after the incident with the cops. I think all of some... No. He definitely... I think you're right. It was a change. I'm saying from what you're talking about. It wasn't the change that I'm asking Clark. You know what I'm saying? The change, like from digital underground to pocket to death row to pocket to drastic change. That's not my answer. You're asking for drastic change because you're skipping a whole section of when he made records. Like, he made records before he became death row. You know what I'm saying? Like, Brenda's got a baby. I love to hear me. I'm high lift you hear me. I'm homies from home. You know what I'm saying? Like, he was making records that were socially, socially good and relevant. You know what I'm saying? Brenda's got a baby. It was like amazing. You know what I'm saying? Of course. There was some things that were happening way before he became death row. And he was being... He was being a rapper. And Jews, they say that that bishop role changed them. Some people would say that. A lot of people would say that. I mean, but he was acting in that role. And they say he stayed bishop after that. It's not that I think what he's surrounded himself kind of. Like the people he was around? Yeah, I think the people that he got around kind of let him fall into the bishop character maybe. And then he was trying to emulate the guys he got around probably. Right. You know. And then, you know, I mean, if you got tough guys around you, you might try to act tough. What's clock dance favorite time in hip hop? My favorite time in hip hop? Yeah. In hip hop or rap? That's a... I would like that. That's what you said, though. Question then. My favorite time in hip hop is the whole 45 years that has been happening. In hip hop. Of hip hop. Yeah. The whole life of hip hop is my favorite because I grew up in it. I'm a part of it. Right. Like I don't think it's anywhere close to done. It's a culture. It's the culture and the way that we live. The culture is a way of life. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like rap isn't a way of life. Rap is a music that lives within the culture. So it lives within the way of life that we live. So if you ask me my favorite time in rap is when Niggas could actually rhyme. Like, what time period we taught? I would have to say from the message. Oh, there you go. From the message to... I don't know. The best rhymes were around in the 90s. But I mean, when you heard the message, it kind of changed what people were willing to speak about. And the funny part is that verse that Meli Mel said in the message is on Meli Mel's first record. And nobody caught that. Meli Mel's first use ever? Yeah. I thought everybody knew that though. But it's on super rapping. Oh, sure. There's more but no state of mind blowing to the ways of mankind. It's on the end of super rapping. And then he used it on the message again. Did you see Meli Mel on the show? Recently he said he's better than Jay-Z. He got a relax. I mean, he's better at Jay-Z doing what? You know what I'm saying? That's a good question. You know what? When people say things, you got to ask them in what context you're saying. That's true. And then you know what I'm saying? Because I could say I'm better than Jay-Z. And then the problem is most people walk away thinking, the fuck is he talking about? He can't rap. Instead, I can go get a DJ. And then what you're going to say? What's he going to say? Good point, but I don't think that's a Meli Mel. Jay-Z, you can't. I'm going to say it. I'm a great point, John. You know what? Yeah. Meli Mel's also, oh, listen. Yeah. El Body Buildup. Yeah, but he took my fight in here. They were talking about their fight. What did fighting have to do with bodybuilding? No, I mean, just fighting. I think fighting. I think fighting, you know what I'm saying? But I think that's dope. I think that as long as you were MC, you should think that you're the best. Absolutely. But sometimes you've got to have reality hit you. Well, MC shouldn't have reality hit them. Rappers should have reality hit them. Okay, come on, Diablo Beacon, it's your camera out, man. Come on, man. Why are you wet? Is it raining? Oh, it's raining. It's a bit. It's a bit. So, man, what is your favorite time at hip-hop? Oh, man. Like, 80s, early 90s. I mean, I go back, you know, I was, you know, I have my hands and club. That's those back in the day. Yeah, club that's old, man. Yeah, what? Yeah, I was one of the many guys that had a little taste of club. That's those back in the day. So, you know, Jay Z, 22s, club that's old. I remember one of my, one of my, my dudes from left rack, they had a chick and Jay Z and Big came in that night and they took my man's chick and the club essence. And they were having a club that's old. And they came in with just them too. It was just Jay Z and Biggie. I was like, damn, like, we should have jumped him or something. Here's a thought. Here's a thought. If they walked in and took this dude's chick, it wasn't his chick. It was like a bitch. They just met at the club. It was still, but still. You know, we gigged on this nigga for weeks. He probably just had it. It was Jay and Big and Jay. I mean, that movement was great. What about that? What about that? What about that? What about that? We got AC. We got AC? We got no cockheads. Yeah. We're going to another bottle. Open another bottle, Boris. Yeah, it was over there. See what's up. It shouldn't make problems. Yeah, but that club, that's those movements. Crazy. I mean, you know, you have Jay with the 22s, Maria Davis, Mad Wednesdays. I was one of the eldest parties we ever had. You know, Maria Davis, every Wednesday, was legend. I was a legend, every party. I'm one of the few guys that seemed clubbed about 35 bottles and couldn't walk out the club. Whoa. Yeah, I see. I see a clubbed about 35 bottles and couldn't walk out the club. But I mean- He tried, he tried, he tried, he tried, he tried, he tried. He's been a real modest man. But I mean, it's a lot of weird. You know, it's happening. You're one of the greatest DJs on the planet, brother. I'm not going to argue with that. And we're going to respect that tonight. We're having, ma'am, sorry. Now, June and my fierce shot, give money video. Give money video. You're part of the give money video, we shot a club, so- And that was cool. I mean, they just walked up to the club, one Wednesday afternoon, with a couple dollars, and we were like, yeah, we shoot for the whole day. All right, cool. All right. Let's make it happen. So, you know, the seats shit like that happen all the time, it's crazy, but I mean- How did you become a sneaker, kid? I've been doing this since I was 10 years old, man, like- Like collect the sneakers. No, I got into sneakers when my mom's bought me a pair of skippies man You know the skippies they had dollar 99 so it wasn't a skippy really was a shoe called the mark five Right and my government name is mark I thought I was the coolest motherfucker on the planet cuz I have my name on the shoe I went back to the block got laughed off the block. I was like nah you wear skippies After that whatever I had to do what I was robbing money from my grandfather sweet and flaws about sneakers It started from then at 10 years old. I vowed that shit would never happen again And then you Clark how did you become because I don't tell you what one of my boys right now Like you know um because we'd be saying collett and fat Joe was cheating Like we said I got a cheat coach When I asked my boy my boy said he's probably the only guy in the world that could tell fat Joe and DJ collett to relax My boy said Respectfully it's probably true But if we say Caledia the dance will be us. This doesn't argue me today. He could say that you know I'm saying what yeah with Joe it'll be a you never know on any day You know I want the high school Joe like my Hasn't because of Maris I see you for the bruh. Yeah, I'm from the bruh My lunch room is fat Joe and law for this Wow But I went to my yeah Joe went to Mars for you and of course he got kicked out Right and not for nothing. I'm a little so you got a T.S. Shane and I don't I know Joe for long time I Got a little rest I got a little rest Soluta one year yes, and on your one-year show you when Joe was talking about sneakers Hey, we should have my name got mentioned. Yeah, yeah, later. I'm here. Yeah, so that's right Then got mentioned by Joe. Yeah, and Joe Uh-huh if he's being honest, right he'd mention me too No, he did say yeah, he says you're See that it looks like bring with me. Yes, and you bring out the sleep. This is this is real shit I don't think you never do a bit on the podcast. No. Yeah, that's crazy. No, we got out actually Doing a podcast on Joe about sneakers. So he gonna have his own podcast called Josh I need to be the girl Say you brought us to have your own joint, you know the main like Okay Me I don't have the No, fuck I just got to try I mean yo, do you know I've been trying to get bad Joe high For 15 18 years that I know and the other day he had a two fake when we had Mr. Childs I'm smoking a vapor pen and I just passed it to him and he hit it Everybody's talking and shit they act like it's normal. He's like he's like he's literally looks at the whole table He goes, nobody see this fucking guy Try it once yeah, I thought it was Try to try to once you like try it again, right? You trying to make me try it again No, I know you got to get that money tonight, but now let's stay there. Let's sneak a thing. So How did you start this fetish like you know me? Oh? When I'm cuz you thought your first guy to have a pair of nikes the first DJ I know I don't know if that's like I would say Bobito had him, but like he's not he's not like considered the DJ the way I'm considered the DJ So I mean it I Guess with a release the first guy with a release would probably be either me a ballito Yeah, when it comes to the rap game or whatever the DJ thing definitely and is it true that you you try to wear Just one sneaker every day like yeah difference in 2004 since 2004 every day you switch up a different sneaker Mel actually I'm on my second pair today. You're your second pair just for day. Yeah, I did look down No, I don't man. I'm just I gotta look I got I'm light today, man. I'm like you all yeah guys I don't know what you probably don't have these though. Yeah, I got the acronym zone Those are the original now these are the ones that came out about four or five years ago Yeah, right you got the new ones So now Okay, like I was you asked me about how I was a kid and around my way Which crime hides Brooklyn the the older dudes who had who had girls We would always like look up to the guys you know what I'm saying? So if I'm like eight and I'm looking at a guy who's 16 17 the first thing I'm trying to figure out is how did he get the girls Hmm and we always thought his sneakers looking new But he was older so he's supposed to have better sneakers than a kid who's eight But we didn't register that because there was no fathers around so we look at them like big brothers who kind of guided Right or big uncles who guided and if they were fresh, we wanted to be fresh So we just wanted our sneakers new and that started like when I was nine first time I made some money I bought sneakers Think me too That's her shit, but I'm not like kings like y'all like y'all take this shit serious. That's a choice The money I'm like because you have the money. I'm saying you have the money. I'm the porn Talking about the fact that you have the money But you went to make a job in the North actually went a direct socket you boy a Gore-tex You went in boy, so I'm gonna You went to the abie store downtown cockpit Yeah, I'm sure the abie's home in the city of course street from scratch. Oh, I'm strong. Yeah, that's definitely that's definitely the truth So look now this is basically shot time. This is when we take a shot of your preference This is a part of the show what every walk is Actually, you know you know because you're my friend So actually look at other interviews that I want to be exact opposite of every other interview you ever did And I want to just ask you about hip hop as opposed to just actually personal stuff real get like to little things But I want to actually inject them with hip hop because you're a hip hop king and we got to acknowledge that we got to respect that I just appreciate that this show is about I don't know if you know is you know I don't know if this is the reason why it works because they quote unquote call me a legend and for a legend to sit on the chair And always respect another legend. I guess that's humbling to certain people and I want to continue that because for me You know what I'm saying like I remember clock coming to the war report session and I'm having a rhyme My rhyme was like 36 bars and he was like relax How you ride you can have that the boss like that you got to break that up and I would just run I just never knew how to like I just I never made a 16 bar verse at that time Like I just didn't register to me I just wrote until I couldn't write no more and then that was a verse so whether that was 24 36 or 40 fucking do that to me that was a long I'm gonna call coming in the studio and saying hold on You went too crazy break that up and I didn't know how to really meant he broke it up had to check some swv Come I never met like I was I was mad y'all what does that shit call you start your stuff struck But then she couldn't sing let's keep it right the which one I don't remember which one I think it was I think it was it was the Lillia or Really not The main co coca-cing but I remember wait No, it's not that they can't sing it's just that it wasn't working that The She couldn't catch it but oh and I So subscribe that the scribe that session for me for you Yeah, this is warm. That's hot. It's good. You need no clock was working. Okay You you got to get some pretence to the to it. I knew you from before like everybody needs to know like it wasn't like I just walked up and I just was like yeah, nah, that's not what you doing. You know what I'm saying? It was more like okay. I knew him all the time and it was your clock. We need a joint I'm like yeah, you know you're a nigga And then I'm compone in a way and I was like fuck I can't do a joke Without without poem because you know both of them is my naked, right and Said and it was like well he heard a beat that he liked and I it was a decision that he made and he was gonna do the whole song by I'm self and that's where we got in there and it was just this 48 bars of ramen and I was like And and my thing was the track was too pretty for him to be ramen all crazy on it and I'm just like The rhymes are fine. Oh You have to move somewhere Stop for a second. You stick a hook in there You know, right? I'm just like that. I'm a if you ask me What was that like I'm gonna say It was perfect because you let me produce right you know I'm saying and so he wasn't he wasn't fighting you on it. Not but I think the reason why he didn't fight me is because I was already I had already made enough records for him to go. I trust them see back in the days You got you got trusted if you produce some records right any trusted me and Like he was the first producer apart because you know, he was the first producer who told me that most producers would just let me Just love if you look if you listen and then what chop it up later? No, if you listen to bloody money Listen to bloody money one versus 36 bars, bro The other one is 24 it doesn't make sense in any of the place. How did you take that when he told you though? Like he was like you know, I wanted to learn it I wanted to learn I sat back like as a student and I seen him produced like he said He had the rest of it. It was dope. Yeah, but I look again I think um the times with were different than it wasn't it wasn't I'm gonna give you a beat You know what it was I wasn't right. We made records to But like dudes who who never had a record like who never sold a record They'll give you a beat and just walk away and be like Yes Well, what does that song sound like right or is it a song or people gonna remember that shit? Are they gonna care later? So if you've made a record you know, I'm saying you start to care differently So I just wanted him to have a song that had a feeling that you when you walked away from listening the whole album You might be like oh, that's my favorite record. That's my favorite record, but you never forget that he made Closer to this paper You're never forget it when you listen to that because because it's the one song in the album That's That's good That's the god My talking to us got come on put some more more Let's go Yeah, let's go in the shots go. Come in. Simply can you know, I don't like your heavy hand. I got a colesor rock in there Can you do we wipe this up? What Hear Colbert's office So they know you You be my bottle This is you Thank God I changed my flight I'll take you I'm here Shelter puff, Colts of Rock Biggest pass in free right there Damn it Where the shark lad is Damn it Where the shark lad is What is he doing? He's getting me the filthyest shark I'm in I ain't even walkin' You know what I'm in You know what I'm in This year is the 20th anniversary of the war report June will be, because we dropped it June 1997 1997 was busy So this year is real I feel like 1998 to be my last We are having fun We doing it all over You got a shark? I got a shark Four points You know what I mean You're a legend, God damn it We see what your wedding ring on I wore mine so I knew you was going with yours You said I wore mine because I knew you That's a shot I was going to do it That's a brilliant thing That was good That was good That was like, fuck it I can't back you up That was good That was my thing I can't fuck with you I knew you were having fun That was love city That was love city That was love city That was love city God damn it We got put tron for Clark Castle You got a shark You got a shark We get a shot of air conditioning Oh yeah, it's over here It wasn't fucking It was the air conditioning Mr. Lee, the discussion is fucking right It's fucking right You got a damn it You have your head brother, you understand That's right man, the ring champs got a damn it I'm happy the world gets the head is that We celebrate hip hop, look at that I'm privy to this man We got a new clock is a different type of person I asked him what he drink it, he said put tron People who drink put tron They like to go to the abyss That's the bottom of the ocean I was expecting you got damn it Yeah, all right now I feel the fan There you go, we're going to the blue Catch your man, drink champs, got damn it Look, I got the biggest shot too, I see That's pretty fast Oh, that was a mess Three, one, two Because the DC-20 and the house got damn it, you know we love you So clock, the Get Money B I didn't do the Get Money B I mixed the Get Money record What happened was DJE, EZLP You put your money up over that right No, EZLP Where are you going right now I was asking because I was not What was the old phone conversation EZLP, he told you to turn down the beat And he was on the phone and then you snuffed them Is something like that? No, I want to hear this one It's something happened I didn't hear this one You know it's crazy So what is you getting this shot? I'm asking I never heard this story There's no backing of EZ I was around then Just so you know It wasn't over me It was over He was on the phone And he was I think it was either on or just So somebody was playing him And then somebody said Somebody was like he I don't know who said turn the shit down or whatever But you know then all of a sudden He got hit with a drum machine You hit him with a drum machine I didn't hit him with a drum machine That's makes a drum machine just flew away It's a drum machine Make some more noise Make some more noise I don't know what you are being I heard about this story I did not hit him with a drum machine But you know what I didn't We didn't have a beat You sound like Bill Clinton right now He is black We taking a little shot Let's take a little shot Let's take a little shot You can take a little shot to fuck it Let me put it on my brother Let me put it on my brother I'm not mad I'm saying something I did not hit him with a machine Who did it? There was a rough conversation about the fact that when I mixed the record When I was mixing the record I was taking out the drums That he put on the record To just leave the loop by itself Why is all the arms for It's not deep I think that's the way I think there was a Heated conversation Honestly, I wasn't even paying attention I just knew it was like What the fuck I think he got hit with a drum machine Something like that I wasn't positive I don't believe it It's no joke Every other thing Everything you ever mentioned You got the Brooklyn's Where's your last fuck this I got you I got you You got the cell We celebrating Clark Head tonight In the words of Norby I'm near official poorer I see you on a DJ You have champagne You killed the crowd I'm still proud of you I'm going to do it I'm going to do it Salu Clark Head Salu goes down like that I'm not going to the party It's the best liquor on the planet I'm throwing that out there It's the best liquor on the planet I'm throwing that out there It's killing me away too That's what I was waiting for So Clark, so it was over the night You did not I did not hit easy LP With a drum machine I had nothing to do with it So you want to get off of that subject No, I'm not going to get off of that subject I'm attached to the night and tell you But it's all because easy LP is family as well No, that's what I'm saying It wasn't whole life I heard You know why I heard everyone Because they were telling me how big It's the gay guy Because I use to instigate shit You're big, big is the instigator That's how I actually got that story I wouldn't say big was the instigator I would say big was the big But he instigated the machine It goes to the machine Just bang just that pie. This is crazy. I'm sad. Can I ask you about the round that you slapped? No, it's OK. It was OK. I can ask you. You can ask me. I'll tell you what you're going to be. It's funny. We're all going to be excited. I'm like, you know what you did? Yo, I want to be, I want everybody to understand this. Nori curved me when he first started doing the podcast. No, oh, yes. Wait, wait. Remember, you hit me on Twitter. And we saw you on Twitter, too. Hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I was way later. Oh, after that. I want to talk about this. You hit me on Twitter and was like, yo, we need to get you on the podcast. And I went, I don't know, son, because I know you poppy. And you was like, yeah, forget it. You did it. You were back. You were back. You were back. Yeah, forget it. Because I said, I left. That was like, I, huh? No. I said, I don't know why. Because I know you poppy. OK. Here's the crazy shit. Now, I'm a hot nigga. So sometimes I ask somebody else to get I'm asked for somebody else. You listen, I'm going to be honest with you. It's certain people that is like so much family to me. Dad, it's like, you are one of those guys. Like, I didn't, I don't pressure you because I know that me and you're going to go on fast. Yeah, sure. I'm going to do it. I did not see you did rap. We almost did. And when I sent you the rap, you know? I'm a rapper. I'm a rapper. I said, I said, hmm, I said, they don't know how to get it out of them. It's a great pause. This is great pause. It's great. What they do is what they do. But what we do is we celebrate hip hop. We celebrate moments. OK. We celebrate the palladium. Because what you do to hear? Celebrate and do that. You're trying to celebrate someone getting hit with a drum machine. No, no. They don't want me. You broke up the drum machine. I did not. I thought of me having an issue with fucking easier of me. I didn't have it. Because you don't want to do it with a drum machine. Yeah, but that's something. So I'm telling you what actually happened. Because that's such a classic hip hop story. Because, y'all was so intricate in the junior mafia album together. Absolutely. You know what I mean? So I don't really know that. You need to know that. Like I'm three years of my lucky numbers. We're going to do one more shot. You understand? But get it. Continue. I just want to throw that out here. My bottom up. Now keep my guy's thing. You know what I'm saying? The best Panamedia DJ in the world makes some noise. And Fab is the best Dominican rapper in the world. Make some noise for that as well. My job is to get people who are half-lattly in the world. And Fab is the best Dominican rapper in the world. Make some noise for that as well. To get people who are half-lattly in the world. Like you all sat in town. Well, I'm Fab. I'm a whole lot of people. You all sat in town. I'm a Panamedia. Absolutely not. I'm a Baratast. But that's crazy. I'm waiting. I'm waiting to tell you. I'm always saying I'm a Baratast. It's never too late to learn. It's never too late to learn. It's a bit romantic to you as she was here. She had to speak English all the time. So when we came in, we learned English. Now, clock is the man. This was the smartest thing I knew. You internationally know this, right? Are we running? I broke Leningas know you. But let me play your show. But people in Brooklyn know that clock is a certain way. You go through clock. You get somewhere. These people come to you. These people come to you. And they say they got an artist named Jazzle. And Jazzle tells you they have an artist named Jay-Z. Who is your first impression of that? Well, I didn't get told that there's an artist named Jazzle. I knew Jazzle because he was working with Fresh Gold. That's the son of... Because my... Jazzle, that was the son of... No, Jazzle was down with Fresh Gold. He was down with Fresh Gold and Fresh Gold. That's the son of his from Marcy. No. No, but... I don't know if any of the sets is from... My name is Mark Carl. Is this being questioned right now? Yes. Drugs back. Drugs back. You can't ask Brooklyn. That's fine. I'm just like qualified. I apologize. But on... Yeah, Jazzle was my man already. And Jazzle used to produce Chad who lived up the block from me. Chad Elliott. Fresh Gold was one of my good friends in Chad. And they used to work together on records and producing other people in such. And Jazz was like, yo, you gotta hear my man. This is like forever ago. And it was Jay. And I was... In my... Who said you gotta hear my man? Jazzle. Jazzle. But the thing is, like... When you knew Jazz, you felt like Jazz was like the best thing in the whole world. And Brooklyn, he was untouchable. Wow. Like, if you really knew and you listened to rhymes in certain way, like, he was really untouchable. And then he brings this dude who's as good as him, but has a little more swagger to him. But not back then. Did you know... No, not back then. Back then he had a little more... Yeah, that's... That's... That no. On Hawaii and Sophie. Oh, Hawaii was so good. It was already normal. Drunk fat. He said Hawaii Pablo. He said Hawaii Pablo. I don't know what he said. Hawaii Pablo. That's just trying to hold it down. Hold it down. Hold it down. I'm not sure if it's enough. I'm not sure if it's enough. Drunk fat. Drunk fat. You're going right now. It's okay. It was a soundtrack. Hawaii Pablo. Okay. It wasn't a soundtrack. You got people listening to you, man. You got people listening to you. They know. They know. They know. Oh, look at that. Yeah, so Jazzle, like, you gotta hear my man. He's a man. His man is L. Right. So when I got my first job at a record company, you know, in between these times, because Jazzles is my man, there was a bunch of times that he did shows and he would call me like, hey, DJ for me at this show and Jay would be there. So I would get to hear these two rhyme all the time. And I always thought to myself, like, these, like, might be the two best motherfuckers in the whole world. Wow. So, you know, time goes on. I get this job. I get the job of the Atlantic Records. I think at day one and a half, I was like, where's Jay-Z? Where's Jazz? Where's Jay-Z? Where's Jazz? I found Jazz first. And Jazzles was like, I gotta find Jay-Z. And then Shurking Fave. Where's Shurking from Queens? Yeah. Okay. Good thing you wanted to say that, right? Of course I did. Who's that? Because I don't know. So, listen, they go. Fave is one of the Shurking's. But what is his name was funky Fave. Now Shurking's was like a very powerful place in the Coliseum Mall and Jamaica, Queens. Right. And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like, you go ahead. And everybody from New York. I'm going to explain this. Okay. What all do respect? If we're saying Shurking's and he can agree Shurking's, anybody who listen to this? If you go on Google and you get a Shurking's, you'll know who Shurking's is. And you'll be learning something that was important in hip-hop at that time. Yeah. And Shurking's were important. Funky Fave and Nike was super important in hip-hop. And they were a part of the thing that we were doing. And they were making graffiti shirts and shirts of characters. And anybody who was doing anything hip-hop at that precise moment tried to get a Shurking's shirt. Yeah. There was a bunch of people who were scared to go to the mall. Yeah. So we were scared to go to the mall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. when everybody was like clock is crazy. I'm gonna make him tell another story after this one. Go ahead. So we integrated when he acts, what made you see? What did you hear? Like, it was crazy. I know you and Dame Das can't really get along because he goes, yeah. That's funny. You say that because Dame is really my man. You know he's my man. You know he's my man. I can't say anything negative about him. I can't even if I try. The things that I would say, it would be negative between me and him and to the world. It would be like, but y'all are friends, so it's supposed to be that way. You know what I'm saying? The shit that I could say negative about him, Mayor, who's my ace. People would go, well, y'all are friends. It's supposed to be that way. We fighting, don't talk for a year and a half. But he's still my nigga like, no one would know he was fighting. We'd be something. Nah, nah, nah, I'm not for coming to you. Yeah. He's gonna try. I'm still in shock. I don't care how funny. Oh, shock. So, oh god. There you go. You know what? So look at the talk. Wait, wait, wait. 20 year anniversary. Wait, wait, wait, sit down. Sit down, follow up. Relax. Relax. Stop, stop, stop, spin 36. Relax. It's what we're gonna do while we're here. Okay. Have you asked me a question on my finish? The answer might be good. I know. What was the question? I wanted to see. I want to know what made me. What did you do here for, Jayng? Why are you fucking in a few minutes? No, no, no, no, no. I'm stupid. I know what that was. Let me live. Let me live. I'm in to you. I'm in to you. If you don't want to talk to me for a year, that's on ya. That's right. I'm in to you. My podcast interview with Fat Joe. I'm putting my work in. Come on. I like to give context to answers. So when I was growing up, when everybody looked and they saw Meli Mel rap and they thought, this is motherfuckers, the illest shit, I saw a great guy at the Meli Mel. I saw a grandmaster cast and I was like, he's to me. He's to me. He's a little iller. I heard him when Tom was going on and everybody's talking about whomever. I heard rock him around when he was 11. And I was like, this nigga. Wow. At 11? He was a wild boy. I was DJing at Amityville Day on King Charles DJ set. King Charles from Queens. No way, son. It was an Amityville. I was DJing. I was young too. Amityville, I was young. I was DJing at Amityville Day. You know, Wyndance Day. Wyndance Day. Wyndance Day. Wyndance Day. Wyndance Day. Wyndance Day. Sorry, I was big on my man right here. You want to know what's going on? I did both of those days. Like I would do Wyndance Day DJing and Amityville Day DJing. And I would DJ in Wyndance Day. And a little dude on the mic was rock him. 11 on a crate. And he was just wilding for a little dude. He was 11. He can tell you this story because he knows this true that it was me and him. But I watched him at 11. And I was young too. I mean, he's like what two years younger than me. It was wild to see this dude DJing at 13. Well, I was DJing at nine, but I was playing parks at 12. No games here. Like parks because like you see. I people that's not from New York City. I'm going to do. No, I mean, I can park. This is important. Parks was in London. Parks was in London. Parks was in London. People didn't go to every one of them. Back then, like, like, 89, 90, like early night. People didn't really go to clubs. They went to. Before you and that. Yeah, I mean, and for him to say that, that's crazy. This motherfucker got me an Africa. That's right. Why say one more shot? Let's do it. There's a South African now. Goddamn it. Salud. Did you get that? Yeah. Mugga by a ping pong. What? That's what those are rock. I just want to throw it out there. I just move his back in the world. South, though. Oh my god. Big little water hydrate. Oh, something. I love my jokes. Hey, yo. Clark. So you worked with Jay? I was giving context to the answer, but I. That's the interview. No, I'm saying I would look at the rappers that I was seeing. I would try to figure out who I thought was better. But see, at one point, I realized that what people were looking at and thinking was better was probably different than what I was thinking and looking at was better. I looked at bar for bar for bar for bar for bar. What did you say? How clever was it? How witty was it? And then I decided if what you said was iller than the next guy that everybody's looking at. So when people were looking at Keras and whomever, I was like, no, the rock him dude, he's the wildest. The reason why I thought rock him was the wildest is because when rock him made his first record, rap changed 100%. Nobody wasn't, nobody wasn't rapping anymore. They started rhyming when rock him made his first record. Rock him was 16 when his record came and I love people don't believe that. Wait, what record? But, but air being rock him. He was like, he was like, he's the 16 of 17. He was a young, you have to understand. I was young and he's younger than me. So he was young when that record came out. He wasn't legal when my melody came out. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. I was actually like, you might think about the one on the content on that too. You was young and in that, Norrie. He was young. You know, he was young when he was doing a war for you. Oh, I'm now? No, no. When you did, where were we for it? There's 17. Do you? Yeah. Yeah. The first time I met Norrie, he's not going to remember because tragedy introduced me to him. And he was wild young, but he introduced me to poem before he introduced me to poem because poem was from the projects with him. You know what I'm saying? But I, when I brought him around, it became more of a, oh, I know the snake it now. I know the snake. And then it wasn't like, I know the snake it like I want to produce him. I was like, no, Norrie's my fucking man. Right. You know what I'm saying? That makes a noise to that guy. Damn it. Damn it. And we drink him more. Can you take that shot over? Yeah, we took that shot. Yeah, we took that shot. Relax. I got a relax. You said three was your favorite number and then that's right. Three is where I go after that. Damn, I'm just mine. Mix it. So, what was that? Okay, so like I said, I saw it when I heard it, I heard jazz. Like I said, when I heard jazz around, the complexity and the things he was saying, the bar for bar for bar shit that he was saying, I was like, no, he's the best rapper in the universe. Yes, yes. Because he was super smart and he projected the smart shit that he was saying in his bars. And then he introduces me to this guy who's instead of being as smart, he's wittier. Right. Yo, when you're rhyming, the wittier shit hits your chest, a lot quicker than the smart shit. So, you walk away from it being fucked up like I pack heat like the oven door. Like as many motherfuckers put something in the oven, they never looked at that shit and was like, oh shit, that's packing heat. Right. That's an exact shit. Like what made him so witty? He was beyond most dudes and he didn't think of things one way and you could tell it when I met him, the things he was saying, like you met him, was he writing rhymes on paper? He might have been writing rhymes on papers then. But when it got to the point where he was running around with Cain and all of that, like tonight, it was no, but he had to understand he was getting to the money so there was no time to put a pen on it. But at that precise moment, when he introduced me to him, I was like, damn, he's just as wild as jazz, but he has a little more that other thing. The thing is I didn't know none about making records at that point and he didn't know anything, but he was, we were all young. But I listened and I was like, nah, he might be illiterant jazz. I never said it, but I thought it to myself. He might be illiterant jazz, but not saying that his rhymes were better, but like the way he was approaching his rhymes was a little illiterant. Like, jazz is the nigga who would say, I'm not, I'm not the paper, satellite, I'm a ridium. You know, what the fuck is a moblog? And then when you realize it's a pen, you're like, I'm a jazz, I'm a research, like we can't afford moblog, pens, nigga, how do you know? What is a satellite, a ridium? A satellite ridium is a phone that can work anywhere. Like who the fuck knows, my nigga? But this nigga was saying that shit. So when jazz was saying that shit, I'm looking at him like, yeah, ain't nobody in the world better than this nigga. And we had the rise, we had the canes, we had the care rest, because we had everybody out going, nah, nigga, nah, better than jazz, oh, but his man's was, his man's turned the corner. Now, did you see that he would be this way he's at now? Absolutely. You seen it then? No, I saw it as soon as I got in touch with him. Because what most people don't know is when I got in touch with him, it wasn't so we could do his records. It was so that we could do him and jazz records. So that's supposed to be the best, the best of all the world. It was the best of all the world. No, no, no, it's, but they were the best period. They were the best of all the world. I'm not saying like, there's no world. There's one world, them two dudes is the best. And that's all I thought. And that's all I cared about. I want these niggas to be the best, someone needs to hear these niggas and be like, what the fuck is happening in all of rap history? You know what I'm saying? The records didn't turn around that way. And jazz wasn't around as much. So Jay made more records by himself. And if you were there, you were like, oh, no, this is going to be the wildest shit ever because he was so nice. Like dude was nice. Because you know why I say that? You know why I say that because like the world, like they understood the reasonable doubt. What was the album right after the reasonable doubt in my lifetime? I won. Okay. Well, that's when the world actually like, like I mean, the rest of the world who was slow. But for you to know that early on is something special. You know what I'm saying? 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I don't know. One, two. Two of them did. It was supposed to be three, but we lost a debt right before Master. Look at that producer. Look at that producer. Producer. You got carrots? You can't ask me thoughts. And joint will bleak. Coming age. Why couldn't I remember that? You didn't age? I didn't know that. I know you did catch me. I thought that's one of my favorite records. I don't know you did coming age. So your man's right here. I'm just saying. Yeah, but I'm so. But what I'm saying is, are you aware of what I'm saying? Like when reasonable doubt came out. I knew it. Like, but it was like the industry. I'm not talking about it. I don't care what the industry was thinking. I knew. I knew. I knew I was 100% sure. Actually, I was 150% sure. And I used to tell people you would apologize later. And a lot of niggas had to apologize. Yeah, it didn't matter what label it came on. I told niggas they would apologize. And for sure, for a year straight, every time I saw a dude in the game, it was like, yeah, he was right. That's an apology. Nobody wants to tell niggas. He was right when he thinks he's 100%. We produce a no nigger. Jazz. Jazz. Yeah, that's why it has so much of him on it. Like, you know, I'm saying he wrote the hook too. I'm no, he didn't write the hook. He sang the hook. Because the record is ain't no nigger like the one I got. So what can you bet the one who's singing that is jazz. That's jazz singing that's for Oh, by the way, jazz because sing is that's off. That's crazy. Jazz on the hook right now. You can get jazz on the hook right now. Jazz, how I have me got there. But jazz is a real, real ill music dude. You know what I'm saying? He's a producer. He's a songwriter and he's a rap writer. Like to me, if like a chick found jazz, oh, and like sat him down and had a check, she would be the wildest chick you've ever heard because of the rhymes that he would write for her. Oh, okay. I'm not saying like if he sat down, I'll teach him about E.S. I'll teach you when he goes in. I don't know. I'll teach him when he says sat down. Like, he's talking about. He's panimedia and he's coming out of him. I'm sorry, clock. I miss jazz. I miss jazz. It's making those clock kids got dead. So now, you worked, you arguably, worked with Big, you worked with Jay, or worked with Norie, you worked with Component Norie, but before that, there's this kid that comes out called Nas, yeah, or you know about that, I would like to hear your story, so, I think what story? It's not a story. It's a true got a story about everything you're legend, nigga. Okay, you, nigga. Tell me about it. I used to produce Most of the like the studio I worked in most of the time was power play and queen in Queens Yes, talk about you hate very you hype on Queens right now. Love love. Okay, so that was probably like the most hip-hop studio in New York City at that time was power play Our first record ever recorded as component or yoga was in power play studios. It's called half a mill Half a mill. I got that record. I got that was like first Like I have recorded records as Aaron's or yoga, but no, no, no, Capone Benholm. I had came home And I couldn't reach him and the first record we recorded together. I have to go and have a mill I'd be confused with the rapper half a mill. No, not a big up. That would wrap up a big guy. He was nice. Oh, yeah He was that nigga Brooklyn Brooklyn now. He's on penalty records. That was my man. Everybody always hitting on on Twitter And tell me talk about him in the podcast. I'm glad his name got bored up because big up half a mill Half a mill is dead night. He's from crime hates too well. Crime Heights brown. I'm a crime Heights He was on the border of crime heights and a bed style Your car kid used the fish you Brooklyn representative now. I'm a thousand percent as Brooklyn You co-signs Spike Lee I heard they try to um Band Spike Lee and I heard you had to shut it down one time. I don't even know what the fuck it's I heard they try to shut down do the right thing and I heard you had to come up Powerplay studio. I was remixing a bunch of records and that's the place I would do all the records at and in the next room I was always large professor who's who's my man and um He uh He did the barbecue Rob and live at the barbecue and when he did live at the barbecue He was like yo come here this record. So I'm here in the record. I'm like whoa. He's going crack it. Who the fuck It's this nigga. Yeah, and he was like oh, that's my nigga now It's a craze bridge. Huh, yeah nigga and I was on it and I was like an awkward crazy too So I was like wait hold on time off because I just don't like the way he's like launched a lot of these describing one of the craziest records and hip hop history What's what's live at the barbecue? He's just saying he was at the session No, I wasn't at the session. I was at when he was mixing the record. Oh, so the record was done and I was you Lies is my man, right? You know what I'm saying? He was like listen to it So I listened and I was because I paid so much attention to rap. I was like who's who's who's who's who's you know I'm saying and that's the shit he said he went to help for snuffin Jesus. Yeah Anybody who says some shit like that. I'm gonna pay a lot of attention I was like nick and said when I was 12 I went to help a sluffin Jesus nothing Yeah, that's nasty not continue And I'm thinking you like 17 so for five years After you lived after snuffin Jesus you nice You know somebody anyway, he's dead night. You know what I'm saying? I'm good I'm good. I'm going. I'm fucking no So I hear on my hair on my hair on my hair everybody. I'm like you know how to record is ill whatever keep going and then um Blodges working on ox album and then I went into a bit in war between in the scope Because I was working at Atlantic records and I was trying to sign up and um I was in a bit in war between Atlantic and and uh and and and in a scope the crazy part is like I kept trying to tell I was like your out you know Atlantic is on it owns in a scope so like this bidding war makes no sense fuck with your man And they gave him more money so he fucking that Sinner and I was then one day he was like yo, but it went up how nice and I was like Fuck yeah Right i'm thinking Bring me where i bring them to me at Atlantic records. Okay, but i'm thinking okay your albums done That means his album must be done Because ox album was done when they were shopping them like large was I he was I think large might have been a like Probably way ahead of his time because he finished albums before he was like shopping them shit So he finished he finished I'm before you and shotgun it shopping it so like the bidding warrior that I'm in is for a whole album Of lost professor joints Like I lost professor did ox whole album and I was like this what the fuck is happening? What's your name? Yeah I think he did everything on it He just just about everything on that I think Rob Swiss might have done a record No somebody else might have done one record But it was it was here's this album what you're gonna do and I was like fuck I want it plus I was in my man So I definitely wanted to sign it So the bidding what happened I lost the bidding war but then I mean been like because he's my man And he was like kind of trying to smooth shit over. He was like yo, but what about us? And I was like nice nigga telling me Remind me about no no you don't have to remind me he put it up He was like god on Yeah, cuz he got wrong, but I'm telling you like this is a week after he got on So he's like yo, but what about now? You big up left fracked niggas man I want to give you some clarity of things all right Like I know up since he was a young boy his brother Yadi I like I know his whole fans He was young boy man into he's been to me you too Look at the racist look at the Reason I know him is cuz I how much I used to be in left fracked And I do So when I'm telling you I wrote that shit on Twitter was like yo, nigga. I know you pop He was like yeah, forget it Trust me like we don't need that Yeah You gotta do it like that Cuz you know why this is changed the bottle temperature If I hold it like this look my hand is all cold my hands are hot. You don't know if I jerked off or not Look we get in the bottle That bottle got violated In your mind it got valid right see you sir look okay I'm gonna go back he's like yo, what about Nas though? I'm gonna bring Nas through now. I was like absolutely So he brings him we sit down. We had Atlantic records and I go Let me hear it and he goes here what now? I was like yo, I give me the demo on this and he's like I don't have no demo clock. He ain't got no songs right now and I'm just like I Couldn't sign but the reason why you need a demo cuz you needed to bring it Yeah, I had to bring it to my boss and my boss had to hear why I was saying he's the guy to sign Then I'm not even one record now one record understand me no, he had live the barbecue and I was trying to convince somebody off of one record. So I like you have to understand like beforehand like I was going It's too nice. Let's do I can I can only and all of these dudes who are around I was talking to my boss somebody but then when I was like he's gonna bring Nas to the office. I was like y'all Nas is coming and she was like well tell me what it is when you hear it because I kept saying like this and it's crazy He's gonna snuff Jesus right Jesus Wow It sounds little wow because like I believe in God Yeah, I'm just saying but musically artistically I turn and the thing is like Nas is dumb young at this time. So I'm talking to I can't sign an artist without a demo because I wasn't a vice president at that point I wasn't even a director. I was a manager of it and I like I was way low down the port totem pole at That was the moment but I was like too Like when we I said we just signed Dots of facts. They had a whole album like I said parish Smith brought me a whole album So he was like okay, I get it signed that Dots of fix album. Yeah, I was part of that Understand me though. So Every everything goes away and I don't get to sign them and he starts he needs search and whatever happens right Later on Nas makes a record now understand me. I had to talk to him about this shit because it was hilarious He was like he made the record and was like Nas wouldn't sign me because he just signed Dots of facts and I was like What the fuck are you talking about me to record say Nas he said that in a record He said clock wouldn't sign me because he signed Dots of facts and I was like wait a minute I was like that's a free style. No, it's a record. It's on one of his albums. I don't don't give me my I don't remember what it was but what I'm saying is he said you know what's crazy? You know why I know they said it Because no one listens to rap close it in me right so when somebody makes an album I listen to every bar because I want to know who's nice I want to start differentiating motherfuckers real quick like so like I said he said that and I was like yo Look, I swear to god. I heard that shit in like three seconds later. I was on the phone. Well, I was like yo I remember you but now I said to the office he was like yeah clock life fuck you asking me that I said remember when he's When I couldn't sign him. He's like you my mom can't sign. He was like yeah, yeah, I know demo I was like okay, I think you need to tell him What you talking about I said nigga just said I didn't sign them because I signed Dots of facts. I said what kind of fucking answer is that Waker like who says now I'm not gonna sign you Nas Because I signed Dots of facts because that's probably how he looked at it though and all on all fairness Would all do respect because it's too I said I need a demo to sign you That's it. That's why I didn't sign you so I saw him at revolve like the last year revolve We was on the boat together and he was like called my nigga. I was like my nigga come here for a second I know it might seem a little petty, but he's my nigga. So I got a pretty fucking makes I You know My shit is that I'm not petty as just that I wanted him to be I think no I wanted him to be clear because it fucked with me For all these years that he thought some so crazy now pull them over is me him and I was like Maybe kidding my studio. He's like I mean kidding my office and you use what I was like yeah I said remember when we when when I couldn't sign you he's like yeah, I said do you remember why he said I think it was like I think it was something with that's a fact I say no remember you didn't have a demo and he was like this as a divine came up This is I see 20 years Both cruise that I was DJing on and I see them. We was me him and Andre. I swear to God. I pulled into the side I'm like yeah, I'm sure you can listen to like I didn't give a fuck. I was like Remember that he was like Yeah, he was like yeah, I can't you know, but it's what I brought me there. I was like here and I said remember We I was trying to sign you he's like yeah, he's like I said you remember why didn't sign you he was like yeah I think it was you know over the sun with that's a bit I said no remember I said I can't sign anybody without a demo. He's like yeah, I didn't have no demo. I was like That's why you didn't get signed I said dog you made a record saying I didn't he was like Damn, man, I don't know man. I just need to remember right No, but I'm sure her all is standing there going You know Andre of course I was like yeah, who the fuck wouldn't decide He was like nobody was gonna sign now. I was like this is the nicest nigga around at that point I'm trying to sign now. I'm just in the ball. Yeah, I was listening to the bars, right? And I was trying to sign us like before Everybody Like before anybody heard a song Time fuck nope, you understand me. He got was searched later in me back to the grill. I'm talking before Soon as he said snuff and Jesus. I was like I'm in wow. I'm in I like this guy I feel like we should take a little shot. I don't know people are in you know what though. This adds to I'm not gonna say that because I have a feeling you can't even go here. No No, no, let's say let me just tell you something. I got a tag about now Let me just tell you some clock So you know I don't make it to the club tonight. I know my fault is not only football. It's just it's only for looks to tag Oh, you don't really have to know we don't talk about right now. Yeah, it's only for the out of stock Yeah, we gotta stop but we gotta leave it there for for cultural purposes only it's just the cultural purposes. Oh, it's the cultural purposes. Oh, okay next question so claw You've done everything. Yo, I want to be clear. I see that you sent out the other day And you say Rick Ross owl It's great And I got a 100% agree with you But if you have the 100% agree with me, why is there a button because no, there's no one to say I want to say He's this era's version of biggie. Oh, it's now I'm not just nah. He's this era's version of Rick Ross No one's ever gonna be any era of biggie It's gonna fix that there's nothing you say that's him. Yo, listen, if you say cadence and flow, then that's Rick Ross Right, you know, if you say cadence Then you're talking about biggie So, you don't think he talk we're done. I explained it just now. You know, that's me don't do that don't do that Relax Make a relax. Look at him relax. But his arm is hard as fuck. His arm's fire, fire. Yo, fire. This is without a doubt, no question. The best body of work he's ever done. Okay. Now I'm gonna throw you a curveball. Did you listen to more life? Absolutely. I feel like that's his best body of work. Yo, we just had this. I had this. You just had it this time. Yo, let's go. I feel like that's Drake's best. I'll go. Ever. If you take the singing records off of that album, that shit super hip hop. No, that shit is a five mic album. Right now, hold on. I want to, I want to visualize, because it's 20 tracks. Look at my honest nick of the name. It's 20 tracks on there, correct? So you're saying, I want to be clear what you're saying, because you're a hip hop god. There's like, so you mean, to me there's two good singing records. That Mediba beat and the other all the singing records. In my mind, every time I listen to it, I'm on Molly. No way, I'm so stupid. I'm going to throw it out. Yo, this is the crazy. He was using some time, maybe, for like, I'm on drugs. OK, I'm saying so. I want to say shit. But I like that. No, listen, listen. I like that. I like that. And this is real naked shit. When I listen to Drake's albums, Drake's music period, I don't listen to him like he's a rapper. I listen to him like he's an artist. And if I can listen to him like he's an artist, I can take everything. But if you're going to ask me that album, if the shit is, that's his best body of work, yes. But if you take the singing records over there, shit, that's just like, that's a five mic album you're saying. Wow. I know what I'm saying is the shit is amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. Yo, and like, you want to know what's crazy, guys? It's not even about the fact that he could spit. It's about that the records are like a fucking girl. Like he made dope records. You know what I'm saying? It's just that some of them singing records. I'm just like, dude, he's so nice. Give them shit away. So you say, no, no, no, understand what I'm saying when I say give them away. And I say give them away. It's like, give them to the artist. Give those singing joints to somebody else. Give a fucking whole rap album name. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now, now, as a hip-hop artist album, and as a Drake fan album, I do actually would like to see a whole rap intro. There we go. Go away. Because I don't know if you heard that joint free smoke. Free smoke, free smoke. That shit reminds me of a havoc beat. And that moment when I heard that, I said, you know what? He's actually tapping into the era of the 90s. You were so kind of like a flow, but I'm giving him a new flow to it. But that was a havoc beat to me. And people don't really respect that dude the right way. You know why? Because it's a lot of factors when you look at them. But if you took away all the factors and just looked at the music, that dude is wow. He's a real, real, real, real, real, real. He's wowed to me. But when you're talking about albums, I want to look at him as a rapper because I heard him rapping. Like his first record was a song with trace songs. That shit went to damn near number three or four. Two or three. To say it for, yeah, to shit that was on. No, I just wanted to be. No, that's not his first record. His first record was a record that was on the top 10 on fucking on BT 106 and Park. It was wild before he sounded Wayne. He had a good record out. And it was with trace songs. Like he know trace songs for a long time. Understand me. Listen to what I'm telling you. Niggas do not listen to the bars. I listen to the bars and I travel the world. So I saw him before he sounded Wayne. And he had a record out with trace songs. The shit was on BT. I can't remember the shit. Can't ask me what it is right now. Especially after four shots. I said, if you go for it, we'll four. That's what we had a four shot. We went three, we went three, we went three. I feel like you're going for it. He said four. He called it. He said four. You said four. Come on. Let's go. We gotta respect your wish. Listen. Yeah. I'm asking the inner guard and you said four. Come on. Pass me that. This is what I was referring to. The inner guard and you said four. And then we go home. I don't know what I'm going to go there with you. Oh, come on. What do you think? I got a salute to one year anniversary. My brother. And what we're doing is very disrespectful. Why? I mean, what we're doing? Drinking? No. No. In life. Oh. We are closing something very good for the podcast culture. Oh, I'm okay. Got that. Yeah, friend. We ready. You got to go. Press your on me. I'm going to go there. I'm going to go to the other brain clock. Oh, shit. That's big. Everybody got a relax. We have has mask studios. That's not forget that. You have Nadu from the drunk. Nothing, wrong. Patriots. We got to get there. He's in town this weekend. Yeah, he has a mask. Did you interview him? No, no. We can't. Yo, you know why? I'm going to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, I know he won't come out. We'll care for the whole week. I'm going to be honest with you. This is 100% real fast. I know what I do when I get a person here. Right. You don't know about him so you can't really get to it. No, I know. All about him. But I'll get you kicked out of the lead. Okay, cool. Because if I get you too far, you're going to get me kicked out of him. And I start. I start. You're going to get me kicked out of him. No. You're going to get kicked out of the lead. You can get kicked out of him. You can get kicked out of him. I just feel like, you know, we might spice up his drink. Give him a mollie in there. There's too many real issues. This is my swirl. We need to throw him in the weed. You know what I'm going to tell you Aaron Hernandez stories. I'm going to be honest with you. You don't know how many people you like. Aaron, I'm going to be honest with you. You don't know how many athletes hit me. It was like, yo, I want to come on this. I was like, why are you in the zone? You got to relax. When you get out, Hulla. When you get cut. I'm going to be honest with you. When you get out, Hulla. When you get cut. I don't know what I'm going to be. And there's a couple of dudes that hit me that's out the lead. And I told them to relax. And they own ESPN now. And they own all that. Because if they were to hit drink champs, I would have gave them that. Y'all got to make a buy at ping pong. And they would have been like, y'all can I say, cause say, a box, buy. That's true. Yeah. Y'all. Yeah. Yeah, that's basically what it means, not making sense, but making perfect sense. Yeah, that made funny sense. We got open to the bottle of champagne. We celebrate in clock camp, man. Now, clock camp, you DJ it all over the world. You got deal with the Japanese, people, and all that type of shit. What is your favorite place to DJ at? When you go there, you this, this is me. You gotta make sure you get two shape ups in the morning and at night. This is your spot. Where's that spot for? Probably Japan. I knew it was Japan. I love Japan. But my cupite could like, like I really, I really actually like DJing here a lot. Miami? Yeah. Where people are on Mali? Where people are? Right now, this weekend, everybody's on the spot. This weekend, you might not be a big representation. No, I'm trying. Don't you dare disrespect my Mali people. No, let the people there. Let the people there, this is my old joke. You better let the people there. You're not the good biceps right now. I see your old snapchat. You were killing that shit. Absolutely. With a bottle of champagne. I don't know if they put Mali in your shit. But a little bit, I felt like, what? But you heard the operative word at the beginning of what you said. You were killing that shit. That's what you said. Clark had me dancing last night. I see you dancing. I see you dancing. That's a beautiful day, Clark. Hit that week. It's about gonna work. Okay, let's talk about your DJ experience last night. No, I was just working. I don't know. I approached DJing. I don't know if I approach you differently than much. I mean, many, but I do believe that I approach you differently than a lot. I could be wrong. I don't like DJing as much as I love music. So because I love music more than I like DJing, I approach the way that I DJing with a certain amount of care. So, you know, that's why nine times out of ten, I end up sounding a lot more better. I'm good. Cool. I'm good. We celebrate in Clark. I can celebrate with some Panama. No, not really. My family. On a lot. Man, on my mind. Man, on my lead on. At least. I got it. What about you out of Batuja? You used to be a dude's house. Man, in Manuja. We're George Bush. Yeah. We're George Bush. Yeah. Okay. Talk about it. I told you when my mother was a, she was in a couple of things. Oh, I'm a big fan. Yeah. Right. And like, you have to understand, like, I'm really panicking. So we really have to listen. My wife is my, my, my, my fuck. My mother was a vice council general of Panama. So, like, fucking with Noriega, fucking with general Tariha. That was shit that we did all the time. So, like, they weren't, that wasn't Manuel Noriega to me. That was Uncle Mani. That was. Oh. No, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, be clear. I'm talking, no, no, I'm talking about. I'm talking about when I was a super kid, like, when I was like, seven, eight, like, like, she was in government. So, she dealt with him like that. Wow. I got pictures. I got posted pictures on, on the internet. I mean, on, on, on, on Instagram with my mother and, and Manolito. Manolito. Manolito. You're gonna learn, no, I don't. He was knocked up right down the street from, from Tracy Huttoff. And now he's a tarot. It's not, I never did heroin. He's an amazing man. No, no, no, no, it's never. Neverway, 33rd. So, man. Yes, sir. Goddamn. That's what I'm talking about. So, man. He's little seeds. So, man. Yes, sir. You see this other sneaker people out there. Yeah. With somebody you sat back and said, I gotta kill these things. Because you, because you were a rapper. Because you was not a rapper. Because like rap, that's how rappers stay. No, absolutely. But, you know what I'm saying? Like, not, I mean, your family. No, we bad. No, we bad. No, we bad. Listen, I'm gonna keep it a thousand percent with you. And I don't know if he's gonna mention, I don't know if he's had enough drinks. He's not in competition with nobody. Right. But me. Now, I've been doing this shit a hundred years. You know what the flash it is? I'm gonna break it. Because it's a white kid that Jordan sponsored. People are all this shit. White kid and he's the opening of a museum. Oh, Jordan Geller. Yeah, Jordan Geller. Yeah, okay. Explain that. I mean, he sold all those shoes. And he sold all of them shoes. And he sells shoes. And he's not like, that's a collector. Because he doesn't wear everything. He'll buy something size 9 or size 12 size 14. And just to say he has it. 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That's not the reason why. I'm buggin'. No, that's not the reason. Because it's not the reason why it's because historically when the Panamah Canal was being built... Are we getting deep? Rolls of belt? Let's break down a nose part. Yeah, he's gone. He's gone. I'm in. Jamaicans came over from Panamah to help build a canal. Yard mine. Yard mine them. Yard mine them. My father's Jamaican. Okay. We gotta talk to these people. We gotta talk to these people. Kirk teen jobs. Not 13. Kirk teen jobs. Kirk teen. Kirk teen. I actually don't relax. Listen, you gotta relax. Don't want you to have a bottle over here again. This is Panamanian diggers. Panamanian diggers will shake your feet. Don't have that. They'll shake your feet. You don't know what Clark can't from? Flatbush Panamah. Let's take a flatbush Panamah. Let's take a flatbush Panamah. Let's take a flatbush Panamah. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. 20 years. 20 years. A fisher, you would say, flea marketer. That's my friend. You know, out here in Miami, they have flea markets. You see, Carlisie was like a fisher flea market. Carlisie was a fisher. I'm from the province. Carlisie was a fisher. But, I still have points. You don't know how to call this unofficial here. No, the flea market he goes to is very unaffishable. No, he goes to home to I got a toilet out there. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. Caramark. 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Did you know what you're talking? Yeah, we're talking about great But I'm the think about this okay every Rick Ross album you listen to you can pick something off of it and go maybe not that one What do you mean? I'm saying so that's the reason why I could say this is the best work because you can't take anything off of it You got to go now. I should try to now. Well, that's just five to now. Well, that's just five to and He's talking on that shit. Is he the South Rick Ross. I mean South biggie. No, he's this he's Rick Ross. He's don't don't compare the mind He can't be compared to anything He's is on Anybody who compared him to biggie was doing him a disservice You know what I'm saying because there does no one's gonna be like that You saying they were doing They were doing Rick Ross is this service by trying to compare him to that Like Rick Ross be Rick Ross facts. You know, I'm saying it and as Rick Ross He's fucking bananas like he his album is fire. It's not good. It's fire I actually feel bad that You know the album came out of day before Drake's album because it's like it didn't have the time to Grace albums are playlists. How do you feel about it? It's a album I don't kill it if the shit I will cover and it has credits and it has track lists. It's a fucking album, baby makes noise for that And then Kendrick Green's single I'm joking Yo, I'm gonna be honest you you'll bring us to the top of the podcast world Everyone's moving one hit one just one hit one hit Listen I never heard caught really got you use the old G you got them just like you know Everybody has stories in the head Nori one hit clock one one for Panama No Listen here's some crazy shit People look at that record and back then it was a Spaname and dude doing a reggae record Okay That is the first thing. Bring your tongue. Bring your tongue. Bring your tongue. Got that one. How good. Got that one. Got that one. Get it out. See this. This is a battle. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That relaxes the game. Really? He said it even though. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I think I had it wrong. Anyway, man, keep going, man. We're going to win this. Where are we at? This makes it nice, man. Yeah. Yeah. So, clap. Jesus, fucking crazy. This dude is nuts. Clap. You think? Jesus. I got it. I got to play with this. You've been in this, this, this, this. I'm your man in the game. This game is made you animal. Rules to the shit. I'll roll you a man. You're a man. You're a man. You're a boss. So now, I heard you, the tweet. Run, bro. Run on. What, what, what, what, what. You tweeted that what was on the fire. Fire. I saw that that tweet went viral. It did? In my mind it did. Oh, yeah. But now. But now. Clap. What else is clapin' like? There's no school. Um. Contrary to what a lot of people might think, amigos. I fuck with amigos. I fuck with amigos. I fuck with young Doug. You know how to do that? No, no, no, no. The thing is, when you sit behind it, when you sit, when you sit, I love that raw, this is. That's all, that's all. Okay. When you sit behind it, when you sit, when you sit, when you sit behind it, desk, you know, you don't, DJ parties, this is Vine, he got to relax. It's a lot of kids. No, it's a truck. It's a truck. Oh, it's a truck. Okay. Listen, when you sit behind it, desk, you start to look at music differently. You don't look at music just for what you personally think. You look for, is it going to work? Whether you like it or not, it's whether it's going to work or not. The first time I heard your, I thought he might have something. But then it was repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, that dude, you might not understand everything he's saying, but when he says it, how you can take Molly out of something. Somehow, you can get to it. Young, the megos, you know, every time, I don't even know. I don't take Molly. Listen, listen, I don't understand it. I'm just going to be, I'm just going to be, I'm just going to be clear. I'm not sitting here saying these dudes are spaying bars. What I'm saying is, these dudes are making records that I can actually like. And, you know, trust me, there's a list of motherfuckers that I'm just like, what the fuck is going on? But there's some dudes that get, that get put in that, that vein with all these other dudes that I'm looking at, like, why the fuck are you making records? And when I look at them, I'm going, well, how can you put this guy in here when his records are better? You know what I'm saying? Let's just look at his records. Fuck if he can rap. Let's just look at his records. To me, you're going to, here's where a lot of motherfuckers get shit fucked up. They look at this rap thing like it's about having bars as much as it is about making records. When you're a rapper, your shit is to make records. When you're MC, it's about you having bars. How about melodies, though, cloth? You know, your melodies help you make better. Because it feels like melodies. Yes, it was carried in. And make, and make, and make, and make better records. And the reason why is, it's so simple, but nobody looks at this shit. When you learn, the first song that you ever learned was your ABCs. The only way you learned the ABCs was by singing it. It's a melody. And rhythm. So that's the reason why, somebody with a good melody makes something, and you catch it. That's what makes something catchy. The fact that you... The fact that you heard a good melody makes it catchy. So that's the reason why, somebody with a good melody makes something, and you catch it. And make, and make, and make, and make, and make, isolation It's not this is not rap radar apologize for you doing that first We got a budget We don't got a right man. I flew myself out so yeah How do you maintain 30 600 sneakers? That's the I never had that question I have to know because I wear whatever's on the floor But I see you I see on internet you got white clear box. Oh, I got the neatest that's my title You talk to Joe you talk to Wale you talk to Greg scream talk to Fed Joe clock. I got the neatest I got the neatest sneaker home in the world But why is it white clear boxes? I have an abundance of sneakers I wear my sneakers I want to see what I want to grab them saying pause I want if I'm looking for a person I want to be able to find it So in the boxes I wasn't going to be able to find all that and I really I don't sell sneakers I don't resell sneakers If I want to resell my sneakers I got a million dollars sitting right there in my room I got a million dollars sitting in my room no bullshit I got a million dollars sitting in my room Relax I got a million dollars and sneakers sitting in my room so like I wanted to see if I want to grab a pair of sneakers from 2003 I'm going to go look for that pair of sneakers now because I see just shit like you have rolls Nice roll my shit look like I'm looking and this is my single hand is now hundred square feet Wow and the crazy shit I know you I know you for seeing on the street so when I seen it on the internet I was like damn I never know You know you had every sneaker I ever you had the I got under feet of four you had the you had the you had the Was this it Michael Jay box shit yeah I got you yeah I got the morning McFlauz I got to do it back to the back to the Them to take it to the back is just last sneakers those are not sneakers what are those for movie props I want like more than this is this is what me and clog argue and we go out of the from back I would love to see that It's a real argument sometimes like this I believe there's a sneaker coach Claude doesn't wait I believe there's a Steve okay okay okay and we don't let clog go only clock Okay as I say I want to investigate this before we dive into it yeah you said you believe there's a sneaker culture Yeah and clock said he does not know because clock is gonna bring me a guy I can't answer for clock but I know where clock is going with it because we had this argument I mean time is a sneaker coach you are a gosh and we really are on our posters no we really argue about this I'm I'm part of sneaker culture I'm like a pond Very low in the state culture you've been talking about I go to the means listen listen to this and that I know that you're Jordan segment was brought up We win the world I'm an analyst in the podcast so I don't want to hit at you official oh yeah I did shit on Jordan you said much but but I also can't Well you heard this he said I can't wear no so that lets you know I'm not a header no no no I respect it Ava is going to say some shit and then boy catch it so clock is believing I still I still want no you don't believe that we got argue about it because you my brother and I love you I can't believe what he's saying right now I'm just throwing it out there you say this nice sneaker culture nori yes how many five percent as you know I know at least 700 people you know it's crazy I can say this without even looking at him when he was growing up at one point he was about to be five percent I am five percent I was given an attribute father a law when I was young right skip back when you look at that and then you go what's it really based off this based off of Islam what is Islam a culture right how can you parallel sneakers which is sneaker some shit that you were on your feet to a culture a way of life culture is a way of life it has laws as a belief system it has a financial system and it has a spiritual system please the word culture is a powerful word parallel that to Islam sneakers in Islam okay we're done here so quick that so you said hip hop culture then hip hop is a way of life right it's a culture the same hip hop is a culture the finance finance everything you said everything you said I understand me money because I believe there is a culture in the state okay they show it to me I mean I don't have the same definitions of you but there is but there is a way of life but there's subdivisions like you know what I'm saying to you if you say culture you would be wrong if you said subculture we'd have a conversation and he's not just a religion when one DMC puts up his and tells everybody to put up their shout-ows and there's 17,000 people are putting their shout-ows he's gonna he's gonna attribute that to hip hop culture I'm not gonna attribute that to hip hop culture what I'm gonna say is can you tell me when run DMC made that record which nigga wasn't wearing a dentist think about this why can you say put everybody put your deed is up when you when you want to stay if niggas wasn't way to do so you're saying so the sneaker culture is a subculture hip hop no sneaker's culture is a subculture period it's not a culture it doesn't come first it's a pie product it's a pie product of clothes it's not even a like you don't so it's a pie product of fashion is what you said that's a fashion which isn't a culture it's fashion is shit you wear it can't be a subculture is not exactly so we're getting back to the same thing I'm sure listen it's a great I disagree too I think it's a culture okay show it to the sneakers is a culture I think but you have your how many kids don't do this why cuz y'all God that's it hold on how many sneakers we do wait these 15 and 16 year old and 17 year old kids don't know you from nothing from music but they praise the ground you walk on cuz it's sneakers answer yourself you can answer that yourself why do they I'm asking you you can't I do I created sneakers I designed sneakers I'm a guy who is look at and that's a culture to them because they don't know that you discovered Jay they don't know that you was saying jazz or was the best in the world they don't know that you signed dyes effects they don't know that cuz they made me understand I was making them to dyes effects no I'm saying he's trying but it's no I'm right but you're definition of culture is that's a culture like if I was going psychopedia culture what the way you define it is that is the definition of culture because that's the only way we can define what we're talking about okay sit in I guess we'll open a dictionary but there's generations to color I'm gonna keep this funky I learned what I understand that I'm gonna do that a long time I understand what I understand to be culture from being one who has who's a spiritual person so I learned it from a spiritual place so if I learned it from a spiritual place I can only look at what I understand to be culture in a spiritual place so with that alone huh he said you're right culture you want to read it I pulled up the definition of culture I hate all of y'all I got to relax I'm ready to get ready to get culture the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively so these kids that don't know that you collect these kids collectively don't know that you know that you know that you know that you from sneakers that is a culture to them you're not looking at what you said and reading it properly read it again read it again okay I'm not even drunk I am drunk the arts of other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively human intellectual achievement where when that goes back to English no no no you're like I have no stop read what you read and explain it because you're not explaining it's so simple they read it to you look how my brother just called me a dummy how many people now so many close how many people listen to listen to listen to listen to listen to me to understand what you just read the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual we don't stop right there stop in the arts and what and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively collectively human intellectual achievements and just put a right there join the tools and wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait let's take let's take a few steps back what a sneaker shoes right shoes are something you wear right to protect your feet from the elements right okay cool where is the what was it again okay cool I'm done you read it yourself you can't just got very professional just did you read your reason for love of shoes and your reason for doing this is because they protect your feet different from what we talking about me do not let's go love you no the bottom line if he just let me be by that definition that I just read you would be wrong I would be no I would be right says there's no insulation I would be right you'll just prove that you're fucking out but when you go intellect you got to go intellect on different levels 17 years and not going to have my 44 year old no no no no no no no you didn't again you're going to be wrong again oh my god she's scared fucking read the shit I read we're doing this on a podcast that's what we're going to do right now I'm not gonna wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait a person of big getting loose I mean just walked back with him off of what you read did he lose this is something human intellectual why don't you see how stink is this thank you very fucking much but what does that mean this define the human intellectual I agree with me I'm not I'm not so this as awesome I know this thing everything that you're going to get that's human and that's intellectual is going to make you smarter right so the shoes not gonna make you smart it's fucking shoes yo it's shoe so I love you but then I can't argue I understand me yes yeah swear to god like it this is real big shit yeah I'm just like to we're gonna have such an Instagram and Twitter war between this yeah and we're all doing respects listen to our people there are people hate has that's why you want to tag hate that's why you wanted to come so bad you know I didn't want to walk in the cold cold cold cold cold cold cold cold cold that's why you wanted to be here so bad no no because I get tired of you saying this shit is not a coach when it's a culture why you get tired of what I'm saying because you know we argue about the soul but I swear I'm saying I don't even get that but but back to what I'm saying is there are people who are more enthusiastically into shoes like unusual and I'm one of those guys who's enthusiast more enthusiastic than usual I don't believe that I'm some superhero because I like shoes more than the next guy you know why because I don't know a person who doesn't have a pair of sneakers so it's a way to tell like young kid no no no what do you tell that young kid that doesn't know who you are what do you tell that young kid who doesn't know who you are based on music who loves you for sneakers and goes to your sneaker conventions you're their hero you're their idol and I don't tell them anything wrong I tell them but to them you're the culture of sneakers to them you're the culture we just experienced that in Nike town just now my nigga I've walked down the line and it was taking pictures but then they still didn't talk to you do started talking to you about sneakers and then started wrapping to you you are his life wait wait hold on I'm and I wrong your life the guy who he's my uncle the guy who started wrapping to me didn't talk to me about sneakers you know what he was like he was like oh that's an inclocking neck my neck might put me on a few things I'm nice so I just can I wrap for you he didn't speak to me about sneakers at all he's from me about sneakers well that's you dog you know why because you're a sneaker fucking superhero no no but wait if you want me to do wait together cuz we're friends right we're not together because of sneaker absolutely we don't even talk about we don't talk about some angry as sneakers so my question you know because you know I said this is my brother for 25 years we really don't understand I understand right now yes we know it's all about me right now I don't even understand what I was talking about seeing it because we're here for you I know you did I know you can't show your fire this mean cloths pocket no that's a choice what is what is wait wait wait you know what you just said say it again people no no no people think it's a culture say that that's true well you say well keep going so you don't think sneaker I think it's not cold there are some people who are more enthusiastic about sneakers than others I'm one of those guys you think it's just a good one hobby it's not a hobby no way no listen I just want to get myself out of the clip my shit is and I've proven it I just want to be fresh that's it my sneakers get dirty I damn didn't hate them now we agree I don't clean sneakers I don't play that shit I got enough sneakers I'm not cleaning my sneakers because I have so many sneakers I want to fucking wear them so what do I do I wear them get it shit away why because I got a no sneakers that I can wear brand new pair why do I ask so much because when I was a kid I wanted to be as fresh as the older I'm about to buy so when listen so when I got some money when I got some money I bought as many pair of sneakers as I possibly could why because I wanted to be fresh that's it was I heard about a storm you had a exclusive pair of something some something some and the last of rimes saw you yeah said you know those are yeah you took your sneakers off he told you that and you gave him the bust of a box what likes oh come on I never heard this one see the you know I did we were we were on the tour we won puffs tour and we went to Portland no way out to him we went to Portland and I um I knew the people at Nike saw I went to Nike I visited Nike was in Portland listen to how not long he says he knows the Nike people forget what I love anything right now you want to make noise for you being a big nigga for a long time get a big homie in a sneaker game got them for a long time bad continue I'm sorry I see you see your shoes so what have the car I went to Nike I hung out with my boy my boy gave me some shoes I asked some for shoes for everybody I brought shoes back I gave shoes to whomever um I was wearing a pair of yellow Air Force ones and bus you know bus was very colorful like the aftersites moment all you she was super colorful he saw the shoes and was like yo what the fuck did you get those and I was like you want them you got them so I just took them off and gave them to them because we couldn't wear Nike's when we was on stage at that point anyway because we were wearing all black side with like 10 so I was just like you take I get took them off and give them to them where'd you hit at I don't know what you heard it from because I never heard this time I did what he's you with though like Luminati told him to do life yeah that was not because I'm not good Luminati told me I'm bad good it's like that you're gonna be a bad girl I'm bad girl Luminati we gotta stop we gotta stop because people think I'm really serious no you're Luminati it's hard it's a joke for that for you so he FN I want you at anniversary we did some crazy shit we started off our first episode with Kenny Anderson and Fat Joe and he said it was the first one and he's he between that but he of his chips first one yeah Kenny Anderson and I could say chill because I love chill I know Chibba are do you call them Chibba so did you call them Chibba yeah of course I call them Chibba you call them Chibba I call them Chibba yeah I call them Chibba but let's say the quaint for us to have one oh the fuck wait how do I know that because you you're over left right right right right because you used to DJ and clock park in the Bronx oh hold on hold on you said he said I'm gonna get you Bronx claim to I used to be all over the Bronx a lot of pop that let's get it come on let's go where we at so now oh boy before we get about it oh oh so this is the last one no he's just he's a little tipsy he's gonna say you also work with Foxy Brown that was my head and a little Ken right wait who's the cousin Foxy anger and he knows that don't act don't let him act like you don't know that so you also work with both I never made a record on my cousin is that crazy but how powerful would it be if Foxy and a little Ken like at this very moment right now if Foxy and a little Ken got together at this moment at this moment it'll probably be really really cool about five years ago it had been nuts right and it's funny because oh wait who you say nuts you saying like bad like me okay okay because you know for like five six years ago who was the girl it was almost like we were looking for the girl all right you know I'm saying but imagine if you get in too imagine if I don't know where you got Fox and Thelma and Louise and the funny part is like it's a bunch of people who got spoken to about that but I actually had the ability to do it and because the first is a remember back then they actually had a source cover right yeah I'm both in the morning right yeah okay any idea was what have been Thelma and Louise you know I'm saying Louise but I'm done why we can't make that happen let's make sure let's make some Lordry chair let me go I see them both recently no I'm like I think Ken recently I spoke to Foxy on the phone but I think that I think they should do that for hip-hop fuck anything else that would be legend like you imagine like yeah beef your whole career I don't share kids together I'll be you at least one car can produce the shit I would produce it and let clock in you know what I would rather do I'd rather be the executive producer or an R on it so I can make the records I would rather find the music to make that you're gonna scry for all listeners what's the difference on producing and then being an executive producer from a good executive producer man we are a good executive producer executive producers the records and make sure the records get made oh thank you we got it with Lacks come on get it for oh look it has us about to take it from me I'm gonna pass it yeah for a good executive producer is the guy who's one of the guys who's making a records but a great an eyes the guy who makes sure the records get done that's the guy who finds the finds the who helps finds the music and helps find the great records helps make or make sure that the hook is a great song you know a great hook so when you're listening to it when someone an artist comes back and he sits in front of you and he plays your album if the album comes out and it's not good a lot of people want to blame it on the artists a lot of people want to blame on producers but who they really should blame it on is the guy who's doing artists and repertoire because it's your job to make sure the album is great saying an R an R should be blamed for it but is an R still even relevant nowadays because that's a really good question but let's think for a second if an albums whack then an R is very relevant great fucking good answer great fucking if albums don't we got to hit with that question I got I got actually relaxed because you hit me fuck off a good an R is going to make a good record i.e. dead serious you know by by DOS effects what's the other guy that was in your self like but sickle mo is good that he's very good he's a very good an R great R an R Linne S. Loney oh he's a hard man yeah I mean but you know you name more than more good an R's Jeff Sledge he's a good an R what's that crazy who's that I got a a FFK oh yeah keep Murray oh yeah like he was a job he was a job was he no you're in our time he was one of the very best anards face no man oh um not Columbia now let's just stop right there not actually see the first person who's signed component or yeah yeah how about that the first people she signed love she chill two three years and actually I fucked that whole story up she signed Kapon Kapon bone part she signed Kapon and I came home about six months after that you got our leg we don't have no more just no more finish your story buckle and yeah faith no Bobby finish your story Bobby I come man I got it this is my ammy she's my right somewhere living her life god damn it big of faith no man god damn it because you know why didn't matter that support all me it's a pull support on not she put on not then Nas set it up for us mob deep our school wall lost boys everybody that come after that and eat and that's what the fuck we did and slime is still on that same mill I just you know I have I had my it was like a Thanksgiving mill for me so I I have turkey there's normally analogy I have sweet potatoes over there but I wasn't leaving let me tell you I was in the end I guess what I was in the end of the problem we did audio too we did empty like yo yo we did Michelle we did we did involve take a little shot for that we need enough a shot for that one yeah for sure we got it for sure we're gonna take a light shot no I'm almost like yeah give me a light shot how your brother you right now Bob let's see it let's see let me ask you in just no disrespect we just talking about a hour and right and you talked about the dogs effects came with the album how much did you have to a and R at that album well you have to after after after you get out you have to know when it's right to drop it what's the best record did you shave records off no no it's not about shaving records office about picking the best records that go so yeah so picking day what you're a DJ so when they say you look at a DJ but you know what it was crazy okay um honestly in my heart I believe DJs who I'm sorry I believe good DJs can make the best anus and the reason why is because good DJs can teach you about a new record you know I'm saying they can show you by the way this is the record just listen keep listening keep listening keep listening right you know what I'm saying because if if a dude has a mix show and he has a bunch of dudes with as a bunch of records that no one has and he's deciding I'm gonna play this artist you know I'm saying like that guy has the ability to break that artist and if he can break that artist he's doing something right if he can look at the landscape of music that's out and saying I pick this I pick that I pick this and then play it in his mix show and make people happy about the mix show that guy knows how to pick records so he should and I'm being clear when I say he should be able to pick a new artist so he should be able to hear a dope beat and say this artist should have that beat it would make sense if they were singing or rapping on sludge if he's not a good if he's not a good DJ he's not even thinking about that all he cares about is playing clubs if he's a good DJ he cares about what the music is gonna sound like in the next two years yeah I don't even call it taste makers because they put taste makers in the totally different thing my thing is a good DJ should be teaching the crowd about something which most DJs don't do well I'm not most DJs I'm saying most who took your club yes the DJ would just say I'm what it was hey and I'm you know I'm just I'm just not most but then again you know the ones who aren't most are the ones who are still here I've been here for a long fucking time let's talk about the Japanese connection what about it you got a lot of Japanese niggas love clock it is that you got a clock it you got a clock it a lot of Japanese Japanese I've done a few collaborations with you do a company that's talking about the idea I did I did Lafayette collaborate I did I did about four or five Lafayette collaborations escrow to these people okay Lafayette is a great is crop is scrowy different it's not described but it's escrowing it's describing and it's scribing at the same time what is escrowing I understand what inscribed what does disagree with it it works okay it's a drink you see over we learn to have brands that are super duper popular and they they're still on the the ground level and they're still like you know they're still like gritty and street you got the black scales you got the supreme's and such you go over to Japan Lafayette is one of those brands Lafayette's a brand with like six stores or whatever and selling a bunch of shit and I've done at least you have five collaves with them at least so supreme was from Japan no supreme was from New York okay but is it a pop it in Japan oh no supreme is popping around the universe worldwide because supreme that component or a good teacher is going for a lot of money on the internet right now you know what we have all of them in these cells but I need a size large please thank you I definitely you got it you see that smile that's the I'm lying smile I need that we gotta believe it listen y'all me son you need that I need it no the gate will the gate I think we'll do it Victoria today did I say the Allah yeah I need that definitely just tell me I can do one of those more tell me you got it somewhere say it again somewhere in my life and your mind you got me in my life in my life so clock yeah you work good big yes you work with Jack yes you work with Rick Ross yep work or nose no I didn't get the opportunity I wanted to too funny shit is the day that I explained to him about the about that thing we was on that on a revolt cruise he was like yo give me some let's do some new again he knew that I was going to fuck with Davies because I'm gonna I'm gonna do a record for Davies so he's like David Davies up he's like yo bro he's like you fuck with him I was like nah I fuck with Davies he's like yo you know send me something so he was like yo for me to send some we trade numbers or whatever some a send of some but that's the crazy yeah he's so LB we took all Davies Nause yeah Nause me Nause top five top five Nause that God you from Queens I understand you saying that no I mean it oh why don't I have another shot because we didn't drink it we didn't pull cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering 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I would say this is like a Latino thing, but the thing about it is you know You know All I think is So I think you just want to get it right this time, you're going to get it right this time together No, you're not going to do that too I got it right You can ask questions What are you doing after this? I'm going to see Clark Kent Wait, what are you doing after this? What are you doing after this? I'm going to do it I'm going to see Clark I'm going to buy you two That's what I'm going to do right now You're working and I'm going to be done in like 10 minutes No, but he's going to go see you afterwards I'm going to see you But you'll be hanging while I'm working But I got to also keep my life together Because you know I'm trying to keep my life together I'm trying to keep my life together I'm trying to keep my life together I'm trying to keep my life together We got to control our environment and we got to do Clark We got to behave ourselves There's a curve here I mean guess what, what a listen We are getting people back for the cold crush brothers We're getting them back Yes, I know When he means it's getting people back for what they did to the world To the cold crush brothers You got them in the last Let's go I'm not going to say what that's all the it I know you have a question But listen, are we doing it in the name of hip? Your clock You know we never had no fake nigger on drink chat Well you never had no corny people on drink chat You know why? I'm an episode in Because you know why we really want to build up authentic, original, hip hop And what is saying on your fucking hat? The originals You get your job ready? They get to the airport No, you know what? Come on I'm going to do it, Clark You can't laugh, I'm going, I'm in with you Let's go, Clark You get a rap right here, I'm going to say that You get a rap right here, I'm going to say that You get a rap right here, I'm going to say that I'm going to say that That's a legit shot, my brother And I know you felt bad doing it Chichi, get the hell out of here No, I'm going to be cold It feels like I caused you, it's like I already know what you're going to fall We're in a row I told you all the good, you got it But I didn't feel bad because you curved me I never curved you I'm going to be honest I swear to God, I'm going to go back Let me tell you something about sober people It's on Twitter 100% I'm going to go back and I'm going to say what to him I really cheering for that I cheering for that I cheering for that cheering for that cheering for that cheering for that So the problem is when he was like yeah forget it It's a kisser cast. Oh, I'm gonna be honest. I believe that Seven months Oh shit you gonna do these niggas podcast That's what he was eating Betty no If I was that important to be on the podcast I'd have been third a second Oh That's terribly good. It's too good. I love the best vodka in the planet No, that is so funny because I wanted this podcast to happen so bad. I text you nor really got 36 hundred sneakers I In the 90s You got hookup Clock got the hookup, but I'm dirty I got the hookup on the club whatever the fuck that's going on. That's me. I thought dumb hard I was sexy Regan and I yo clock is gonna be in Miami this weekend. What's up? I was ready. I was ready. We were gonna. I was ready. We saw it. I was ready I was on success. I work out that way. I'm sexy. You know, I don't know I don't have a ball in the world. I text nor did I check this out clock is gonna be in Miami this weekend. What's up? I want to make this happen This peachy with the film a different That's not even cold. It's not even cold We were making drinks I'll take a drink with you You're clock in now let me answer your question. Why you get bottled water to put tap water ice in it? You know from the resource You know the niggas in the resource and especially education That's the one I'm that nigga. I have four teachers and four two minutes. It was even You said four and he said we're both You're the smartest that's why they want to kill me listen Listen, they're gonna let you live cuz they're like that's his man I'm like you talking about both groups exactly my both groups. I got see I got what you was talking about So don't tell you I understood what you thought I'm Crazy the super resource You know, I said I was a funny shit ever You did drink champs you survived never Grung about any of your first two shit. I know a lot. You don't know relax You're looking at me and your lips getting a little white There's a camera because they they can know that my lips ain't getting white no in my mind Your left scowl what person you can't ask me I said that I can't be real out You've been there for me for when I stepped into this game. I love you. You stood there with me and There was a wild one producer on the whole war report because I used to carry it too far on me and I said wow And not one producer said No, it's your And you was the only one When he told you to relax you had to two five in your pocket in the booth no, they had two five all the time You see now he's probably you like don't tell them that clock He was the only one And that's the first time I ever seen that in my life that I could actually run And get it all out and one one whatever But then he could take that and say relax coach dancing on us and pull up you So after after that advice you kept doing that that way no listen to his records after that one record after that He he understood song song progression. It was verse verse hook verse hook Think about it because after that album what what album you what album you made That's what you took you took you took you took advice you I got a fucking DJ now gotta go change no I When you DJ nobody's gonna see you right Nobody's gonna see it right now when you DJ Over there I love You It was really really nice Now I started God listen to listen to me everybody it was really one of the first producers who actually pull me to the side and says long I understand what you're doing. I get it But let me structure your shit I'm so happy and it was you A lot of you regret it. No for all or sweat But they came in our That's dope he had us but you were still learning because one of one of stories Good talk is that you say that you was counting bars with what what what what and that's how I love that I love that story But think about it so clogged it executive producer credit for that absolutely He's not gonna get that up because he's not gonna look for the check to go come me for that But the bottom line I get what you're trying to say you're trying to say is that Moment gave you the ability to look at your songs differently and and think songs instead of thinking I'm just gonna be rhyming. I get it. Yeah, I get it. I respect it and I'll be because think about it after war report What happened? What what what what what how long After every 16 bars 16 bars well, well, what 16 bars well, well, what huh? That was the same 16 bar break up that I I don't like to say taught I'd rather say Now you know why because I don't I don't believe that um I just believe it was something that he didn't he didn't know but I don't think it was a taught it was a enlightened I'm like, yo look if you do this it's a song when you the thing is when you listen to war report like I can go back to war And if you listen to war report, that's a bunch of wild ass records and then this is one record That makes you go oh, I get it. I get all of that wild shit when you listen to Closer to this paper you just do because it calms you down and you can hear what he's saying and be like okay Before you're just like I'm as wild as this month fuck right here, but then when you listen to that you're like hold up He stopped for a second And he gave you closer to this As you know what I'm saying so it was it was it was it out of that balance you know you Let me tell you what's even crazier. It was the last record and the reason why is because Honestly When it comes to um producing sometimes I can be a little competitive So I just wanted to hear everything and figure out what can I do that's gonna be different from everything I heard and everything I heard I was like oh this is damn easy You know why because the reason why he came to me was to try to get a single He was like, oh, give me a single. So I gave him a single funny shit is it wasn't Him as a single so even with something else and it worked out Because it was him by himself so it couldn't be a CNN wreck it if it was him by himself and that wreck it was on war report It could have been a single But it didn't make sense to put a CNN record out without poem right So I mean, you know, that's the way that worked out trust me if that record that could pwn on it That probably would have been the first single because it was it was structured like a record like a single Yes, it was and that that's what the that's what he gave me for he's like him. It's not a single I'm so scared and he was scared and and but the things the funny part is Ed the chicks from SW re-coming the studio I wasn't ready. No, no, you did the first kid. Why was just kid? No because the young dude's clock is clock. You know, he's not We're not when I say in ten days. You know, it's so what happened? Yeah, this is clock. Yeah, this is the guy I hope then the day. John. We ain't even go to them then that's good and we we have a new touch that I'm not going there right? Yeah, you have to have that's the segue you ain't going to I got cheering cheering Day to day Let's take off kiss come Cuz I was the biggest day to day God slick Rick fans in the world me imagine slick Rick is my favorite album My favorite album ever and then The nose name I'm like so at every producer that every came from the work for it Like I wanted to shoot them So you answer my question is 25 was always on again. I don't know I was like Come Like that Boy clock came in clock came in But it felt like a OG type of call Yo, look do that I get that you got it. He played the beat. I was like let's go because that's what I did The firm shit with the firm shit I did that I used to write rounds gel You fucking up the time left for me What point you did I'm leaving and Leaving right after the war report right after the war report Um like not report is out like right after you finish the word boys out. Okay, okay So it's out and then you go do that. Okay No, I know I'm just The crazy part is Because ponies locked up so he Promo run in Miami That's how we meet the promo run in Miami is dolo So and he's up to my head he's a monster He comes to my store and I Don't know if he's ever told you this he was super stressed Promote war report by himself. Nope. Yeah, I saw my my start super stress Wait, why would I know then he's not my artist? Because he's my fucking man I know it wasn't easy promoting CNN when only the end is there Yeah, and then the C can speak for the C and the C and So trust me. I don't even know Like if in his heart he really wanted to be nori by himself You know, I don't think that I don't think so I trust me when the first time I saw it I was like that's because the components locked up. He don't want to do a solo record. It's just that CNN war report was so me look at that shit was like nah that shit It's almost like he had no choice right Because he had to hold it down But I was around Taking over the drink chance Sweet jubble now I'll leave that we could jump in during the show No, we still we still got to go to the day-to-day You're not leaving club. Yeah, you gotta talk nothing about the day-to-day man. No, I'm here. I'm here I don't know how I'm not drug yet If you do It's a table they come no, I'm gonna go like oh shit. God just me. I leave here. It is death I might be a drink chance. Listen you for much that would never wait I got a DJ so what yeah, let's only tell DJs in the 20 minutes Rich told me a D nice could take 20 minutes extra D nice all right Was one of the show that he was all of came to me Told me how to do a show here you go brother Let me four o'clock Where's your club? You told me how to do a show You always hung out with me the clock kid tonight We're gonna we're fucking respect you thank you I'm gonna ring you man and we're gonna fucking honor you tonight clock and I'm sorry It's not a USA. No All sides I'm an all-night Very offended. This is this is this is the all-soft hip-hop. Yes, it is our mind And you know what you are the one of the most DJs that we hear the most DJs Most DJ ever whatever that means you would have Actually, I know but you come with that me a little bit you would have most We're gonna honor you fucking tonight We'll continue not fucking on you because you know why why fucking deserve. Thank you. I appreciate it And I don't know why the salute with you Cheat I Fuck it. Let's go. I am not going to come I All clock shout to the shot the mayor to pour I'm gonna be destroyed by the time I know you're gonna actually What is the brush brand the bruh I got a story I like that. What's the best brand? That's I'm gonna question I need that my brother listen hold on hold on let me interject real quick Nori nori nori nori nori what's that you got but you have a good conversation I forgot see it just hit me which now I'm not drunk you know no no hold on brother. You got the for real plug That's the real idea plug. I need that shout to push it see who's my man and I think in the mail you have the for real plug The needs you got the human races with the Japanese writing on them. No, I'm calling you all right now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, listen This interview right now I need you There's no pausing in We're Puerto Rican you put a ring and black and put a ring and Italian we put a ring I didn't pay attention your hands I know you got for run on speed dial I need you No, no, I'm not pausing clock start Too We got a relax. No relax. I need you I need Real you have the plug See this is this is this is shit that rappers don't understand this really gets the road yeah, I really got she codes. I need you Fuck are we right? We're hazardous sounds and I need the plug You're gonna these in low-wow you're gonna accidentally scratch like nine records because you halfway through a bottle of Patron I just want to get things lit You we're gonna go pass my old talent mercy You can go for a feed you hold stop wait No, I say you're gonna drop me to the old tell I got you You miss the least busy I got you open exhale. I got you no, no, you got you truck whatever you want. I got you listen Why can't I just say Lesson I don't care about your right back to the hotel I care about no real for real DJ You care about for real And the packages be Talk about this Talk about this I leave I leave I leave it to you He just called your bro Bro Bro That's all you've been ever here I hit it It's clock can contacts is really high. I'm fucked up right now your clock can't The male all sneakers you got 37 830 It's an amazing number That's a great number You're killing the game my friend you fucking you be I want to expect Snigger currency He changed from culture because he's smart you smart my He's getting to everything's ideology here. You wait a minute. Is he good? He's good Relax No, that's a sack You know what he's at? That's a sack Keep going with the egg buddy. We've got a relax Let's take an upper shot. I'm in let's go fuck you talking about Fuck you What about a lad? I'm drunk. What about a lad? We don't do respect. I'm not drinking. I don't give a fuck what y'all say I'm from Brooklyn you know you're just gonna tell me what to do. I don't think I don't think I don't think I'm gonna drink with your brother Your brother's The brother said work didn't name you You want to know what's a great thing? I'm from Brooklyn. I'm like like peer pressure don't fuck with me You never fuck with me. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. When you say you know what's funny I'm not even listening I'm just pulling a clock shot and you're gonna lose me. I'm not drinking. Oh wait, you guys are biting each other? What the fuck? What the fuck? I'm cheering cheering cheering cheering cheering Chichi, what's really good? What's really good? Are we good? You know that. I'm left out. Everybody loves each other. Let's go! We got your glass right there. Come on. Bamam! We're gonna try to protect you. No! Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. You're gonna accidentally scratch now. Let's go. We're all due respect. This is a motherfucker who has nothing to do right now. Make him eat you. I changed my flight to fly. Let's go. Check this out. You're my brother. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Oh, I'm gonna break this. Electric blue. You're gonna worry if I don't get a podcast behind this shit. I'm gonna be a little annoying. I'm gonna be a little annoying. I'm gonna be a little annoying. I'm gonna be a little annoying. Listen, I know you're a little fucked up but remember this podcast was legend. I was a part of this. What are we doing? That's right. Yeah, man. No, I'm gonna call you talk. I believe in you. You're out? You miss what I said. Joey, we got that. What about Joey? What do you think? He's doing it. He's doing it. He can run me to that side. I ain't got none bad to say about Joey. What part of Brooklyn is he from? Flabbers, I think. Maybe is it Flabbers? Yeah, I think he's from Flabbers. He got a joint with Jay Cole. And he got a joint with Stalaspee. Volphanus shit is legend. Shout the static select that. Stalaspee is a producer. I don't know if he produced them or not. He produced Stalaspees joint. Joey's dope. Where were you going with this? I'll just ask you a little bit about cashier. What? What you said? Definitely what you just said. How much cashier? Oh, okay. Now I'm going to relax. You got to relax. I said I'm busy. And I was like, I don't speak fucking heavy. You said I'm busy, but he said, I'm going to break somebody's jaw. You're going to break somebody's jaw. I promise you. In here in our room. I said, we got you the air conditioner. I keep on having fun. I'm with all the respect you did. Not get us the air conditioner. They got you the air conditioner. Move the shit away. The air conditioner is amazing. In my every way, it would be dry right now. I got to relax. Listen, you know what? Awesome. I'm good. I'm going to make it the puff party tonight. I'm going to get the puff party tonight. We going to all parties. All parties are coming. I got your word. I ain't going to work. I got your word. No, no. No word. Let's tell you. I can't use my flight to six of evenings. Just what are we at? Where are we at right now? Where are we at? I'm gonna say anything about the day. I'm gonna say anything stories. Why? Why not? Damn it. Say anything about the day. Nothing brother. Hey, tell about the day. You can't say that. I swear. I swear. You can't say the water. And that's the top of the day. You want drink too. Say anything. Say anything. Tell me about the day. I have no idea. I have no idea. My God. How did that happen? You have him because I was DJing out of town and show it Washington over in high school. And his record had just dropped. And he came to the school and he was gonna perform for the crowd. And he asked me if I could drop the record. And the way that I dropped the record. And he made it say, yo. You know, that was perfect. Do you think you could like do that for me at another place? Pause. A little little sex back right there. But anyway, he asked me if I could, you know, DJ form at another place. And I said, sure. And I did. And from that point on, I was this DJ. Dan a day. Dan a day. Dan a day with fans. Dan a day met me. Dan a day. Dan a day. You scared me, Nory. You got to rely. Dan a day met me. DJ. Clockhead. What? He met me. DJ. Clockhead. I was already DJ. Clockhead when he met me. So it wasn't a, he put me on thing. It was a, he was like, yo, can you come along? We're famed. We're famed. We're famed. Yep. Dan a day. Dan a day with famed here at the tame. By the time I leave, you remember my name, Dan. Dan a day with fans. Dan a day with fans. Dan a day with fans. Just get going, just get going. Thanks, questions. Dan, you going, Gigi? I gotta, let's see. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta make it in questions. Because I want the world ahead, but I know. Alright, you gotta relax, baby. It's your show, I'm going. I'm going to go. You better go. I got to go Chris. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. You're a good dog. You're a good dog. I'm going to go for it. I'm there. So that was a tough one. No, no, no, no, no, no. You can't ask nothing. You're the inter-UE. I'm the inter-UE. So that was a point in life. Talk about when you told the world that Jay-Z was the best MC ever. You told Grand Master Caz that. Yeah. And if I'm not mistaken, you told Meli Miller that too. I didn't necessarily tell them both because I was trying to tell them both. What I did was I said, after New Music Seminar, while the MC battle was going on is... Was that a jack-to-rap thing? Yeah, New Music Seminar. Jay was with me and I turned and I said to him, by the way, this is the best MC in the world. Then we kept going with the MC battle and by the time the battle was over, Grand Master Caz and Meli Miller were off to the side of the stage. And these are my guys. Like the God-known Grand Master Caz for a lot of my life and Meli Miller for a lot of my life. Which are the originators. Yeah, yeah. No pun intended. Grand Master Caz was the first best MC ever. That's why I brought this up. So he says, nigga, what the fuck is you talking about? And Mel was like, nigga, you see me standing here? Like, how the fuck are you just going to say some crazy shit like that? And you have to understand, like these are guys that I have respect for and I look at like, nah, you guys are the forefront of the culture. Think about this. If there's no message, there's no gangster rap. There's a lot of things to happen. No, no, no, no, no. A lot of things would happen, but that was the record when he said what he said on the message and the fact that what it might have been called they were calling it reality. But all the gangster rap is reality. Right, right, right. So my thing is if you don't hear this first reality rap record, do you ever get to CNN? Do you ever do you ever get to end up in a way? Do you ever get to school, you do? No, you don't. The first reality rap record that that you can know that broke through and made it. They did white lines, too, right? Yeah, but that was after the message. No, no, no, no, it's not that lineage, that lineage, don't matter, what matters is the message was made. People heard a child say fuck that shit. No, no, no, no, whatever, that's it, fuck that shit, this guy sucks. No, no, no, no, no, the bottom line is on a record, you heard, pretty lady living in a bag. a bag. You know what I'm saying? You heard me tag. You heard all kinds of crazy shit on this one record that wasn't, yeah, we're gonna go to the party. We're gonna get drunk and we're gonna have a party because every record before that was that until Melly Mel and Duke Booty made the message. So gangster rap changes. I mean, or anything that you would have said was reality became gangster rap, which is corny because it should all be called reality rap. No, no, rap. But after you told him Jay was the best ever. Right. It was gonna be the best ever. Right. How long after they sit there and tell you that they agree with you? Oh, maybe about about three years later, there was a, there was a, a Zulu, there was a Zulu anniversary conference. And so, and, um, Bronx, no, it was actually in Manhattan. Okay. And, and Grandmaster Caz had a table in it where he was selling. Caz, Zulu, Grandpa, huh? There was Zulu. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. So all of, like, like, Grandmaster Caz had a table full of tapes of Phyllis Phyllis for Fantastic Five, Furious Five, Current Cat, um, For some C's, um, Cole Cress Brothers, he had this, this table where he was selling actual, what cassette copies of old school jams that were on tapes back in the days at this, at this, this, um, at the Zulu anniversary. And I walked into this with an anniversary and I see Caz and I'm like, damn, I don't know if I could speak to my man who I've known since I was a young boy, is he gonna still be like, what up? And he was like, yo, let me talk to you. And I'm like, shit. So we go over to the side. He was like, yo, I just want to tell you something, man. He was right about Jay Z. And I was like, shit. So everything I was trying to tell you, tell you all, like, dude, it's like really that deal. Like, nobody would listen to me and understand me. Like Jay Z had come out second album. We rocking. Nobody could tell me anything. And you could say what you want to say, Phil, how you want to feel? I knew I was right. Jay Z's killing it. And then Grandmaster Caz says he was right about Jay Z. To me, that damn name was my Grammy, because he's Grandmaster Caz. He's the first MC that I looked at and was like, he's the best. Even though Rat would look at Meli Mel and go, he was the best. I looked at Caz and was like, I really like Meli Mel. But I think he's the best. So the first best MC came to me and said, yo, you was right about Jay Z. Keras one tried to tell me I was bugging when I was talking about K. We're now talking about Jay Z. He did. We was in the studio. We were at, um, I mean, he could have been, he was, I've never heard this guy that he knew he was dope. No, there's he go. Please let Keras one was making a, a record called five boroughs. And he was like, yeah, I'm gonna put the dots effects, dots effects on him. I was like, you should put Jay Z on it. He was like, why? And I was like, what? What the fuck are you talking about? Like, I said, dog Jay Z is that nigga? Like, he was like, I don't know what you see. And I was like, I told him I'm working. Yeah, you understand me. He was making a record called five boroughs. So it would have been somebody from Brooklyn, you know, standing on the Queen's lawn. You know what I'm saying? He chose Doss and I was looking at him like, dog, I'm not mad at you choosing Doss because they from Brooklyn. So I'm not mad period. But, tall like Jay Z is. And then, fuck no, like, you might want to use it. He was like, why? I don't get it. And I was just like, you should have moved. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, you what the fuck are you listening to that you can't say to do this? Super nice. Like, he's not nice on a regular level. He's like nice on a level that you can't even come close to. Like, he's like nice somewhere else. Like if there's an alternate earth, Jay Z by himself. You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck nice are you talking about? So when you say that to me, get to understand I'm the guy who's standing in front going, not nigga. You can't fuck with hold. But then you tell me that like you what? Come on, stop it. Man, you deserve a smuggle and a hand for that. Yeah. Right. Let your jealousy go right away. Yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Come on. You got to go. You got to go. You got to go. You got to go. You got to go. And you my life. Man. You don't know what you was talking about. Do you want me to tell him about that? Tell him. Where? Just tell him. No, just tell him. Fuck. What are you talking about? I'm relaxed. How far? Man, nigga. You're fucking. There's anything better that we keep continuing to praise and respect. You're like and your presence has wronged us to the drink chance. And we love you. We love everything you represent. We love everything you had apart to be a part of. And you fucking you doing, y'all. Come on, guys, guys. Got a man trying to talk over here, man. Got a man trying to tell the truth. You love everything that Clark Kent is a part of the work. Clark Kent. He's sitting here like a red devil. Love. Goddamn. Fuck, are you talking about right now? No, no. You're in the gang world. Fuck it. Yo. Yeah, guys, because he. I would like to say no, we thanks for having me. May the thanks for, for, thank you, for, for, for, for convincing me to use it. In EFN, you know, you my nigga. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about right now. Yeah, I know. He's like, thank you for having me. You went to, uh, I'm like, just, what the, the mic's just going to help. So, what are you doing? I don't know what this feedback is. The mic's just going to help. I put your elbow on, uh. Clark Kent. Thank you for being here. It was a blast. It was a great chance, Army. You wanted to work first. Very first people who sat down with me and told me, relax. So you had to make a record body. Can I do 600 balls? Yeah. Yo, wait, wait, wait, wait, yo. Hey, I, you don't even do a record together now. Yeah. Yeah. You got a relax. No, shut the fuck up. You got a, I'm not going to come on. I'm not going to play. Let me dab it. Like, I love you. Let's make it happen. Please calm down. We're doing it already. All right, then, then I'm a fucking prophet. You got a relax. What's the AC? Relax. I don't want to be honest. Don't stick around. I'm no AC, no fuck. I'm not going to come on. Just trust me. No AC, no fuck. I'm not the manager, but no AC, no fuck. No AC, no fuck. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me, bro. Thank you for having me, bro. Yo, man. And I know this was a pleasure. What is it? Thank you for having me. No, no. One year anniversary. I'm one year anniversary. Nice. OK, just one year. Yeah. Oh! Thank you so much. No. I appreciate you. And listen to us. I just want to say thank you for having me here. And it's the honor to be your one year anniversary guest. Let's take a shot at ads. No. No, no. No, no. Yo, listen. Listen. You know what you've heard of, bro? That you've got to have a fucking mind. You know what you should just go. No, no. I officially ain't shit for real. No, you really, really. You take it with you. You take it with you. No, no, no. You don't take it with you. No, no, no. You gotta relax. Perfect. Look, you gotta walk in a wake and just stay. No, no, no. We got to take pictures. We got to take pictures. We got to take pictures. We got to take pictures. Let's go. We got to take pictures. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Make some notes of clock him over. Yeah! Yeah! Oh, no. Let that go. Let that go. Let that go. Yeah, sir. Let that go. Good. Good. Here it at. Here it at. Five, two, three. Good. Yeah. Good. Okay. Okay. This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.