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The Rich Roll Podcast · May 7, 2026
Pay Now, Love It Later: Why I Work Out at 4 AM & The Mindset That Wins The Long Game
“Former Stanford swim teammate who exemplifies tortoise mindset by breaking Catalina Channel Swim record at age 50”
Early morning workout routines and sleep hygiene optimizationAccountability mechanisms and public commitment strategiesConstraint-driven creativity and creative problem-solving
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