CSB367: Fire Emblemcest: ONE House

Hello, what's up, man? How you doing? Not too bad this weekend I had a big family function Okay, and Punch kid was ready to debut to a number of Fam and awesome and you know punch kid whatever she's she's solid at like handling the Giant this is the biggest room full of the most people she's ever been in and she was pretty just Faces and smiles and all good for the most part But I truly can say that Yes, babies run on a Nagoriyuki like blood install system and Every time you have a big a big high a big smile a big enjoyment And like you're being held by strangers and you're not popping off. It's all delayed. It's all gonna come later Right and when it comes later it comes back in orders of magnitude so You can push that nap for a couple hours and the intensity of the nap that you're getting on the backside of that is Not to be trifled with I'm sure you've experienced the Force multipliers of like delaying the nap but We recently got hers down to like three a day from a much higher number and I Can say that like I feel like we're you're just yeah, you're you're managing its Systems there's bars and meters that are invisible that you're that you're managing at these events and I can say that like We're getting pretty alright at it Now I don't know But I can only imagine that the screaming kid running through an airport Smashing into walls and bouncing off of everything and everyone has significantly more meters that get introduced However, the the UI is revealing itself to me does that make sense? Yeah, you're mentally ill You you you you you have an illness in your mind, okay, that being said your core point Is is dead on all right well forgive me for trying to bring a fucking video game bit to a video game podcast Fucking go Your core point is correct there. There's a there's a couple wrenches in there The so it's it's in in in your parlance. It's all the same meters. They're all the same Just certain ones get longer or shorter depending right and They will change up on you so you're starting to feel like you can't you're like hmm, okay We got this we got like kind of a loose schedule I'm able to anticipate and like I can go like this is about 15 minutes away from disaster you and I can I'm able to peg it mm-hmm All right, and she's what? September well just a 90 yeah, she's she's she's between she's between her six and 12 so She's okay. So You're getting it and you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna have a couple of weeks Maybe a couple of months of like yeah Alright Then you're gonna have to start the whole fucking process over as soon as the next sleep regression hits and Every single fucking part of her schedule completely resets to some new bullshit That you have to just re into it So the regressions didn't really hit like I was expecting in the sense that Like The times where she would she there yeah, there's definitely nights where she just be like hey yo, I'm up I don't give a fuck right. I think the funniest part about that is is like It's the baby asleep and you like look at the monitor and it's just like Like the widest eyes the biggest goo goo gaga Um Yeah, it's weird because like it would never like it feels like it wouldn't regress for like stretches of time It would instead just be like sporadic like this night was just off and what has been more telling at least with her has been like teething and Teething pain is a way larger determining factor of like how the overall mood is gonna go It felt like my guy was teething every day for like 20 months, right? Right, right. Yeah, like it really like every single time he couldn't sleep or whatever But must be tea that's what that's what I'm saying though Is that like okay? So I know what the tiredness System is that I'm familiar with where that's at based on how she's behaving and how that when that how it looks when she's Getting low and then you go you go through the the solving all the other problems and then that doesn't solve the irritability so then you're like it's got to be teething and like It makes sense because teething frustration is a different sucks it hurts out, but it's a different kind of frustration because she can be She can be in the middle of being happy and then teething pain will happen and she won't stop being happy But she was but she'll still be like yeah, yeah, and then she can go right back to smiling or doing whatever You know and so you see that and you go, okay? Let's give the cold Chew toy or the other little things or whatever, but sometimes you're getting though those like Those in the middle of the night, and it's like that's not a sleep regression. That's a teething overlapped with sleep is now turning asleep at turning a nap into a Teething interruption, you know, yeah, so again, you're just new subsystem introduced. Okay, we have a new bar to keep track of here and You gotta get test it to see if it's teething pain Or is she gonna take the tooth the cold toy and throw it away and be like no it's not that you know Yeah, right now. I'm in the period that has been going on for six months or more And I have no long no idea how long it's gonna go which is this kid could really use a nap Mm-hmm. They disagree. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So either They're gonna take one nap and it's gonna be at the worst time that a human can take a nap. It's gonna go from 6 30 p.m. To 8 30 p.m. fuck or They're gonna just like speed up and Speed up and speed up and speed up and go faster and faster and faster Until 845 at which point they're just gonna if they if they sit down for even a second They're just gonna tilt right the fuck over and pass out. You can't do the long nap as the last one of the day You can't do it. It's a fucking trap It's a trap Yeah, you know what you know else is a trap you know else is a trap You know you you know the most dangerous thing of all is okay usual bedtime 9 30 10 It's 745 mm-hmm, and I'm looking at him just tilt and droop and I'm like Yeah No, he's gone he's out He is now back up after his three-hour nap at 10 30 mm-hmm Fuck yeah, so I mean again. We had a we had a fucking nappy little like potatoes So she was like passing out in like 90 minute intervals at one point practically Yeah, that's that's that's the man that that part of the infant cycle is like you can set your watch to them It's crazy you you know when to start doing dishes and laundry because you you just fucking got it And you've got and you've got your exact like timer of like and There it is you know But yeah, no that that's that's otherwise like you know getting a little bit more predictable by being less predictable The other thing is and it's like okay, so we're hitting the different Different solid foods or trying out get messy trying out all different kinds of stuff and I have to say I'm like oh boy I'm like just wait till you taste like fruits that shit's gonna be fucking crazy like you crazy sweet and things like that and Like oh man a mango you are your brain is not even ready her for how good that is Does not care about fruits Yeah, try it a little bit of an apple thing Yeah, try it a little tried some pear stuff. Yeah, the mango little tart Yeah going in for tahini Going in for like potatoes just fine cereals just fine But the good shit on this earth don't like a cup of cherry-o's man, but like But the good shit though and it's like it's like I think it's like your mouth is just not ready for how much is going on there It might be the other thing is that a huge proportion of those tastes are genetic Do you and the punch bomb have different tastes and food to some degree? Yeah to some degree, okay? So like for example, hey man, you want to eat some chicken? No Do you want to have? Do you want to have a piece of steak that we cut out so you could suck on the steak? delicious steak no Is he stealing a pickle? Yes Yeah, yeah, like a vinegar drenched pickle sour and briny Yeah, and it goes. All right. Fuck it Yeah, I mean my like whatever whatever means we get there But my whole thing is like I'm just I want to avoid the the the pickiness if at all possible You know and I can see it started to develop so much you can I'm gonna fight it with all my being I'm gonna fight it with every fiber of my being. It's super important to me. I just you know what I got right now bro It's like he's a little picky but nothing at the end of the world What I get is just like the shittiest customer I've ever served Where hey man, here's all your food. I got you yogurt. I got your I got your your fruits and veggies I got your chicken all this and like he he sits there and he's like looking at it and he's like Where's my dip dip mm-hmm my oh My mistake your Yeah, and then I get the catch up and I squeeze out some ketchup out and he's like thank you dad Da dip dip is very good chicken is only good with dip. I'm like, okay. Yeah listen, there's there's these are the moments cuz I'm like right now. I'm just I'm I'm pre-planning and I'm and I'm anticipating and I know it's mandatory but for as much as possible like that the kids menu is the enemy is how I'm approaching this and This is one of those bits where I think Simply being in like North America in general There's a there's a vibe to this that is like on omnipresent almost but when it comes to Like how to approach the the taste and some of the weirder flavors and all these different things I'm gonna have to revert to some Caribbean style approaches of like mm-hmm. You got to taste some wild shit a Big die, like if this is what the range is usually I got to open it up Massive and have you taste a whole lot of crazy things and then just know that that's out there And then you can still pick and choose and be your preferences will develop But they'll develop develop from a much larger base Then the usual of what you get up. Yeah, I am reminded of what our pediatrician told us because we were like We're already made me is he getting enough iron and you know We were going through like the list of like macro nutrients and He was like, okay. How old are they like 18 months? He's like, okay, cool. Are they eating? Like yeah, he's eating foods like good great. Yes. Yes, that's it. Yeah, and we're like, but is it nope? Yeah That's it. I know yeah, there's so many moments of just like hey I'm concerned about this detail and then like pediatricians like I'm not get the fuck out of my office Like Fine fine fine. No, I fine sure right and I'm sure that like in the when you're going down a Massive list and a bunch of different kids are there and you're like these ones actually need my attention Yeah, leave me alone. Do you bring your kid in they look healthy? They're well fed and then in the back of his head He's like listen. I got motherfucking toddlers coming in with fucking scurvy. Yeah. Yeah, okay like Just John just to shit like you gotta you gotta just and I'm like, okay fine. I know, you know, you know, and and I definitely I Don't know. I feel I mean, you know us, you know our demeanor and such so I feel like There's a lot of cases where you know talking to a couple different levels of professional You know that they have a system in their brain. That's running for just like, okay We don't want to panic parents at any point right no matter what even no matter what we're looking at We got to just go through the next level of like Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's chill, you know and I'm good and like we're conversely also trying to run a system of like hey, we don't want to look insane We're not insane. We're just it's don't want to be in you don't want to look like the crazy You know while you're up in the office going ah, right? What I'm just like but we ask questions because we like actually want to know how this stuff works And I feel like I look for a lot of things. We're pretty data-driven people, you know, so it'd be like, oh, yeah Like what's going on there? You know and so like the conversation is like, you know, sometimes you're talking about like oh well What would happen if this were to be occur? I mean it seems like it's not which is pretty cool But yeah, this usually go with kids and stuff, you know, and you kind of have that thing and you kind of you kind of poke at it in From around the edges a little bit just to just to be aware, but there is there is definitely a like wall You'll hate of sometimes we'll be like well, you know And then and you know if we don't see any good results there Then I guess we'd have to just start talking to some other people, you know I suppose and they just kind of just you don't want it It's just like yeah, don't worry. You don't need to know what goes beyond this step or what's going on over here And the last thing you need is like well, what if my kid never eats an orange? Then we're gonna have to hit him with a feeding tube There's no fucking purpose for that. That's such a minuscule amount of cases But it is it is a system that I've encountered in place where there's definitely a level of like my my anti-parent worrying System is now running and it's like you're gonna get you're gonna get a Stop on the amount of information after this point, you know, so it is it is interesting, but Yeah Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it And then exactly what if we just want to short the baby, you know Um Anyway, she is Perfection incarnate What's going on this week oh With me a Leak occurred Yeah, I played some of that them them their kingdom hearts some more Are we are we I beat chain of memories? Sorry, re-chain of memories And I come I beat rebirth-recome Reverse reverse rebirth-recome, okay Usually you would go in the other order, but yeah, yeah, you know you would think you would think That game sucks dude I Have Now beat both campaigns Yo that game fucking sucks ass unfortunate That the the sword there's two campaigns one sore ones Riku Wait, hold on This is you're talking about come I'm talking about calm. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Re-com re-re-re-birth-re-com Re- yeah, it's a re-chain of memories in darkness not chain of memories Yo that game sucks shit you ever Is about 19 nish hours Fucking terrible like God awful The shittiest pacing possible Where you're going through all the Disney worlds from the Kingdom Hearts one and you're just doing them again Like like everything right He's like just really a retrait of last you mentioned you go to the exact same places They just don't do any of the new shit because they say well did good shit for koH2. Yeah, and It it features It features a combination writing style That is like maybe genuinely the worst combination of of factors that you can see in a story um Characters so stupid that you're like screaming at the screen Like Jen like Kingdom Hearts Re-chain of memories Sora Might be the dumbest motherfucker. I have ever played as in a game in my life now. They are like 12 or whatever, right? Yeah, no at like absolutely Fucking so stupid How like astonishingly fucking stupid Even for a 12 year old okay. Yeah, no like and and here's the thing here's the thing He is Fucking so stupid and you're like well, he's a child his Slightly and I mean like maybe a year older friend Riku not stupid So it is actually Sora Sora is the dumb one Now is it very dumb is it dumb in the way that it's like Protagonists good heart is just too pure for this world. That's it in form to make decisions It's a little bit because that's like the the cool yeah, Sora is a character is that he's a good boy Mm-hmm It may be it may be it's it's like that Because other characters have brains in Kingdom Hearts Mm-hmm, and it gets to the point where some of the tertiary characters are like I Can't believe He is falling for this Because what you're describing Sounds like especially when you when you also contrast it with the the Edgier rival kid being smarter and I go right it's the shonen protagonist who believes the enemy and does the dumb thing because like the heart of the situation will prevail and Yeah, in the end, you know the plot will often prove them right and and the darker one who would have been more skeptical and About things and were practical but might have overlooked something and then it would have been bad if they followed them through So how much can I get into like the nature of how dumb this is with you because it goes to like the plot of chain of mental I mean I am There for what here's what I am with Kingdom Hearts like for what little there is to the story I'm I am going to do this someday. So I'm gonna say don't go too far in okay I'll just go like basic yeah like the basic premise the very basic premise of chain of memories is about memories Yeah, and they walk in to the castle oblivion and Within entering in the door go we have lost some of our memories by arriving and Every floor we go up we will lose more memories, okay and They They take it very not seriously enough How much damage that will do to their decision-making process over time, okay? And it's it's just like I want to like scream because it's it's bad On the and on top of that the gameplay is terrible the the the Kind of interesting core concept of using cards for moves is poorly tutorialized and a little hard to get a handle on and Just makes its way for a bunch of insanely insanely busted shit That the game like hands to you like the strongest move in the game is when you earn by leveling up It's not something you have to go seek out they just go hey you leveled up to level 27 Why don't you try this move and you try this move and you're like there's almost nothing in the game that you broke handle This there's no reason not to do it every single turn you broke the combat system. Yeah and Then you So there were two things one was a was essentially a judgment cut style move Which bosses can't like their AI can't handle it at all and the other is a Move that just it's like it's a titsuken essentially So you start a random battle and you hit it and it just disappears every single enemy okay, and I went from really strongly disliking the gameplay for about five hours and being like this is kind of a miserable piece of shit to mashing triangle while reading chat for 15 more hours because Nothing could touch the system I built it's like expedition 33's Like difficulty scaling problem happening like a third of the way through act one Okay, you remember When like oh wow nothing can fuck with me anymore. What if that happened like right away? Um, so the thing is with this being like a portable side spin-off though Like I would assume that it's a fraction of the length of the main game You would fucking hope huh? No My total gameplay time was about four hours less than 100% 100% Kingdom Hearts 1 Wow Okay, like it it it and You get to the final boss and the and the final final final boss of Sora's campaign Could stand up to the nonsense I was doing and I'm like ooh am I gonna have to like Relearn how to play the game. No, I'm just gonna have to swap out this broken move for this other broken move that hits the boss in the air and dog walk him and The only fight in the entire game that has any mechanical depth is the font is the final phase of the final boss There is there like a separate off equivalent at any point in it or no, okay? No and then You do recuse campaign Which is It's a it's called a reverse rebirth Where you play as Riku which is cool because Riku is cooler Mm-hmm and That is like an eight out of ten game. Oh Okay, yes And the long and short of it is that Riku Completely flips the entire system You don't earn cards. You don't manage a deck You are given a Deck that is set up for every level in the game and that's the deck you're gonna have to make work. Oh and He gets special bonuses for breaking opponents cards with good timing or Matching cards and then going into like a dual mini game and he is Dramatically more fun to play he is like he is also it plays way closer to what Kingdom Hearts plays like That to the point that this probably should have been the main system He also has no storyline in any of the Disney worlds at all. So the pacing is way better his bosses are more interesting and his storyline is better and More interesting and better acted The Sora campaign I was gonna say is this a jet stream Sam slash Virgil DMC special edition a little bit But it's like you have a eight out of ten bonus campaign that lasts about five hours Stapled on to the end of a three out of ten 20-ish hour campaign and After so a long time ago. I read a Text synopsis of what happened in chain of memories before playing two. I was like that's good enough It wasn't Like this this is the second most important game in the entire Kingdom Hearts franchise in terms of shit that happens and It is stapled to just Slop hmm so it is the worst combination of Legitimately terrible story slash gameplay That's really important I'm gonna guess because the bits the what I do remember of King Kingdom Hearts one that we played Riku was in the background and you didn't know what he was up to It's just popping in every once in a while. So I guess this is one of those here's the most you're gonna see of him You know for a bit for a while. Yeah, okay. Yeah, well, he gets to play a full campaign You get a bunch of cutscenes as him and It also they do a fun little thing where he has a similar like you know moving around move set as Sora but he plays better his default combo is faster and Cooler looking his jump is higher his role goes twice the distance, you know stuff like that like no Riku is better Kind of and I've been told quite a lot that the GBA game is better I strongly doubt that a lot Because in addition to having no cutscenes or voice acting right It also doesn't have any of the mechanics that make Riku's side of the game interesting It's also a big ask to like go back to that I mean like for lp purposes at the very least like Mm-hmm So yeah, yeah, King of Hearts chain of memories is like the least skippable most I want to skip this game I have played in a long time in a series It's like somebody described it in my chat as D what if DMC to had vital plot relevance? Oh Well the Argosax was the second strongest demon in hell Pat. I mean Yeah, yeah on the plus side Next up on the list is kingdom hearts to Final mix which is the top of that series is bell curve of quality As good as it's ever gonna get and it's gonna get pretty fucking good So very excited to start that on Thursday That'll that stream will be a little later because we got a vet appointment for the cat, but Yeah, no kingdom hearts chain of memories bad Bad game Not good very important very important Very not good game at all except for the new game plus Except except for the the tiny bonus campaign That is like the dessert after you play all the slot I mean, I do feel that like, you know making the making the rival playable is Often a way that like they're not gonna they're not gonna think about like making them depowered or having any sort of like Progression scale they're just gonna be like yeah, you're super nuts and you can go crazy from the jump and thus it's way more fun So Especially for the way games were designed back then it feels like they just they wouldn't want to give that to you right away But it's like why the fuck not you know Well, the Riku thing is more interesting than him just being stronger like his attacks are stronger and his his movement is better But unlike Sora he doesn't get anything other than attack cards Okay, he literally has just his his three hit combo So you have to focus on breaking cards and like engaging in the card system more than nothing God, I was so upset when I played Mega Man X3 for the first time and it was like finally Zero is playable and you're like But he can only die three times after all this time and like recall it in zero you take over ah shit He's here and he's gone You had to wait to X4 to get insanity your real insanity You went through all the trouble of making him playable and you just didn't fucking make it real You made it a super basically and it's gone off your save file forever Zero are you there? He's fucking gone Piece of shit man. That was the that was What a crime what a fucking video game crime? That was and then yes X4 you get the cut the character. I had the exact same feeling Like borrowing a friend's Super Nintendo and like oh one place there. Oh fuck It was the number one thing Everyone playing that game wanted it was universal and someone Really angry at the world said no no no you just get a taste and even then if your taste is Extra limited if you can't make it through the stage perfectly, you know It's almost yeah, I wonder if like looking back on it There was something to it where they're like this is buggy as shit or there's some shit We don't want people to find so maybe we have to like highly restrict it You know and don't let people get too much time on it. I don't know anyway So yeah, I play Kingdom Hearts reach chain of memories. Oh That makes that I am now to Ninth King sure one fifth maybe Because there's one Recom to 358 divided by two Yeah, divide by two then there's Bbl then there's What is it called recon again What's what's the code code re-code re-code Dream drop distance 3ds then oh two then Now then three then the rhythm game. So yeah, I remember Years ago on Frank cast you said like hey, there's a there's a good reason for every one of these titles that exists that's like yeah, well no like the literal titles yeah, and Birth by sleep does have something in there that's some Sleep birthing is this is the Kingdom Hearts naming conventions just Chuni before Chuni in the titles Because because Chuni ass titles are and Chuni ass like like like you know Logos exist and there's always a telltale Moment where if you look at a logo for anything and you see a paragraph of English text You're like oh, we're just tuning hard like an under night. Yeah a million percent under night in birth perfect example Any other thing you can think of your favorite show anime? Whatever it is with a paragraph of English text in the background. That's gibberish. We're just shooting hardest fuck right so Is this just another form of that it feels it feels like that energy? Well, so Kingdom Hearts it so I played Kingdom Hearts chain of memories on Easter Sunday and As I did so I was overwhelmed by the Christ analogs of Sora in Kingdom Hearts and How easy it is to just slap mainstream Christian ideology on to the Kingdom Hearts narrative Like of course you can like it's like Kingdom Hearts is the light and the way I And dude and the devil needs there to tempt you with the darkness the game opens on a stained glass portrait stained glass I'm surprised. There's no fucking paragraph text over those game logos That like it feels like that that would have been right in the time in the place 0.2 a fragmentary passage is pretty fucking out there Oh Man hunted by a tragic past But also a great sorrow Will it will change when he meets a girl named Dominique? These are the residents of dog street the bouncer But yeah, no, there's a there's a lot of there's a lot of Jesus and on top of that I was talking to my chat about this Kingdom Hearts is Right there holding hands in church with your friend and mine Sonic the Hedgehog The coolest slash edgiest thing that just like oh, it's a Disney game, of course you can have it Oh, and it's wholesome and it's about friendship and light and all these things The like those parking lot kids are probably coming straight there after church Like he just fits It's the coolest thing they're allowed to do man Yeah It's like oh man those guys are wearing cool black leather jackets with the full hoodie Like a leather hoodie. That's crazy bro. The Jinko jeans are ready for dancing They're flared out and everything Okay, the other thing that made me like laugh really hard in the context of like this is for like a bunch of Church kids trying to get edgy with the Kingdom Hearts was that like Sora and Riku's dialogue is so gay It's it's so So gay like it was pretty gay in Kingdom Hearts one It's oh man. It's it's full on gay baiting is it in chain of memories I just I just remember it being again kids Going no Yeah, you have to I won't so everything they say in the parking lot is just fucking Well, that's all Kingdom Hearts to rocks of stuff. Okay, okay, excuse me That's my context of the dialogue like 60% of Riku and of Sora conversations is like a Guy getting mad that his boyfriend came home late and being like oh, I guess you did want to see me after all Like just getting all caddy and bitchy about it I mean that last thing I remember is is him looking in the window as everyone was Having fun and he was outside not allowed to be in the house where everyone was having fun some Something something like that something like that peeking in Yeah, no Very excited to hop onto to on Thursday that that is That is the goal of playing Kingdom Hearts the goal of playing or starting to play Kingdom Hearts is so that you can play fucking Kingdom Hearts to final mix Because that game fucking kicks ass That's the best one That's the best one easy. There's no arguing. It's one of the only franchise Franchises I can think about where people go. What's the best one and literally every single person goes. It's that one That's the best one and Then everything after that is arguing everything after that is like This this one's got see because because after you know Well because after that your voice got deeper, right? And like life got a little bit more complicated and you started looking at that like and it wasn't as simple and clean as it used to be Yeah, I know and some of those boys and girls in class and you started feeling a bit funny, you know and And You know, maybe you have to move to a different place and you know, maybe maybe your parents change jobs Who knows but life got really complicated after that I saw I saw a really good comment where somebody was saying that the reason why a lot of people they feel that a lot of people complain about like Kingdom Hearts 3's handling of the story is that They play Kingdom Hearts 1 when they were like ten years old and they play Kingdom Hearts 3 when they were adults Yeah, and it stayed the same but you didn't so it's really interesting to me going through these games some of them for the first time as A fucking 40 year old man. Yep Because that that shit is over like I'm old now. This is also a foundational aspect of our relationship with the entire medium you realize Mm-hmm Especially doing this all this time later the shit that we took our fondness for the late 90s Which we do go back and on it every couple years to just make sure that it did in fact rule 1998 was the best right and then we also gave flowers to I think 2006 We always do this but it is super true that like what you're you're where your life was that and what you were experiencing makes a huge difference and Even if you weren't experiencing that much that in and of itself the lack of other things Still makes a difference, you know If you didn't have as much of the outside creeping in and you were just playing and enjoying your time And that's all you were focused on or whatever was happening in your life It's it the context you have these memories and makes all the the change the difference in the world There's a really good example that I talked at length with chat about this because the Disney is such a huge appeal of Kingdom Hearts, right and it's like okay. I was born in 86 so I was 17 No 16 when King Hearts 1 came out right and then I was 19 when Kingdom Hearts 2 came out and then I was in my 30s In King Hearts 3 came out right and so like okay What's the what's the movie? breakdown of What's in what right? Because the audience that plays Kingdom Hearts was whoever started playing fucking Kingdom Hearts back in 2002-2003 It was maybe mainly that same group of people regardless of how the fuck old they were right so it's like Oh, what do we got we got Tarzan and Winnie the Pooh and Aladdin and and Little mermaid like oh man. These are like the classic Classics from the 70s and 80s that people like you and me and our age group like grew up watching all the time Everybody had a Disney movie that just played on fucking repeat in their house, right? It's like okay. Well, what's Kingdom Hearts 2 got? Okay? Well, it's a couple years later, but not that many years later So it's just gonna go for stuff that's slightly newer or more classic like oh Beauty and the Beast or Hercules again or Tron. That's a fucking weird one or You know General like all these are all super super classics, but by the time you get to Kingdom Hearts 3 Willie you're you're 39, right? Mm-hmm. No 40 40 how fucking stoked are you to play frozen and tangled? Yeah? Yeah Fuck it. I do remember wondering when at one point like When Lion King was gonna get in there because I believe in to yeah, it was only in two or in it going to got to it, right? So But yeah, too also has like the luck of it has the best movies hmm at stages that they ever did and Yeah, Tarzan because I also wasn't like big on Tarzan at the time so that was another one that was like I don't worry They forget about Tarzan. Yeah. Yeah, they lose the rights to include Tarzan so Tarzan's only in Kingdom Hearts there There it goes And then it took a while for Toy Story to actually happen. Yeah, true In any case What a weird series The other thing is that like one of the reasons the later games aren't as good as Kingdom Hearts 2 is that Kingdom Hearts 2 Was the last time that core group did them? Oh Like Nomura didn't work on any of the ones afterwards until three and like the core group got spun out to other square properties It's like that that core gang just got disassembled Yeah, I'll do I mean it also is again a Absolute nightmare in terms of not just voice acting but like the amount of rights and different things back and forth and all the games are made up of Every every one of those MCU conversations we've had about like, you know pushing this over that etc The entire existence of this of this franchise is the most complicated super robot wars ass deals You know ever so you've been all is just said is fake ass news I don't know I read it on the the Kingdom Hearts wiki. I don't know what you want from me Okay And I think else going on Yes What else is going on? I hit master rank with the cousin fucker. Ah I'm one of the top cousin fucker players in the world well, you hold on to that because Soon Ingrid will come and rewrite reality With her special CA level 3 where she puts Alex's head in the door And fucking smash her that shit Shoutouts to quasi mode oxford The new troll Ingrid art where a troll Ingrid is opening up the reality door and just come into smash Alex's head on it and break everything Yeah, I hit I hit master with Alex just in time to go back to playing 2x ko It's a cawley patch today. There you go. Just in time the Whole time I was grinding Alex out to master. I Just under my breath. I was like God damn it like the whole time the whole fucking time Just changing the vibe a vibe that did not exist that that means nothing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I also ticked around with a couple of some Backlog stuff, but the one the only one that I really want to bring up is something called Elden Ring Reforged It's a total overhaul mod for your friend and mine Elden Ring It's really cool. It does a lot of really really interesting stuff The main thing is it does What I wanted so I beat shout out of the earth tree you beat shout out of the earth tree and one of the things that I took Away from shout out of the earth tree is man this fucking just defend Tear should have been in the whole game They should have moved this fucking thing to live engrave and let you play the whole goddamn game with it block at the last second so Elden Ring Reforged has block at the last second perfect frame perfect block at the last second Roll at the last second with timing Attack with perfect timing so when you roll or attack at the correct time to roll again Or attack again a small indicator will pop up on your character's hand or the middle of their body and the subsequent follow-up attack or roll will be faster and take less stamina if You perfectly time it because like you know you can mash out Elden Ring or from software combos Mm-hmm, but there is actually like this is the first frame that the end of the new attack becomes active If you actually nail it you will be attacking like a 40% faster speed and rolling at a 40% faster speed It also changes all the weight so that you have a blood-borne dodge if you're nimble So if you if you do the just defend your reward is your reward is almost no stamina loss No stamina loss. Okay. Okay. Yeah, and your guard counter gets better as well And there's a mill it's one of those mods that's just it wants to be vanilla plus plus plus plus So like every everything has just tons of shit added on to it Like one of the things of note is that? They made it so that you can always attack with the weapon in your left hand So if you're blocking and you hit any of the attack buttons, you'll just attack with whatever's in your fucking left hand So shields all have their move sets available at all times So when you're blocking you just and you have a moment you fucking pop them with the shield and fuck their poise up So is it like tap and hold to block but then tap multiple times to do the combo? I guess no It's tap and hold l1 and then your r1 and r2. I've just now switched to your left hand while you hold block oh Okay, what happens to your Strong skill or like because isn't there is an r2 taken up by L2 is to do your skill Or to go into your stance with your skill And on top of that it makes like two handing weapons like super viable because you can just perfect parry you turn the fucking game into Sekiro, okay Someone asks how does that work for spear pokes it doesn't Yeah, spear poke overrides it or I was gonna say for for for power stancing, right? Yeah, so they they made it they also made it so that power stancing is automatic with any two weapons that have an animation for it It just goes into it automatically. There's no Okay, okay, because I used to because I was power stancing fists, right? Yeah, okay So like I was power stancing with like a long sword to short sword It's just as long as I could equip them they fucking went It redid the whole crafting system to work better It has a bunch of extra stuff. It's just a really cool way to replay the game Okay Yeah, I was worried when you said that that it was an insanely massive remix and like I preemptively felt tired So for example, they get they redo the tutorial area right the the the cave knowledge or whatever it is and the final boss of that has been turned into a skill trial and It's a test of the new movement mechanics So they go okay, listen, you can only take damage the enemy only take damage when you roll out of the way to the side if there's There's if there's moves bad tracking roll to the side, but it also goes okay back step is gone It's been replaced with duck So any stabbing move that would go over your character's head tap circle and duck underneath it whoa and every single weapon in the game has been given a new move to come out of the duck Like like stance is duck and then it teaches you hey, wow There's low attacks. Wow only gonna be able to get away like jump them and so the final boss is roll duck jump Etc and it's like you're gonna be using this and perfect blocks to do a lot of stuff That is bad back stepping is not as Use that stepping sucks. Yeah, that is a way better thing Adding another level of height to the to the game interesting, okay You know, there's some stuff that like they've they've like made a lot of stuff more unique So I was able to kill the the tree sentinel right off the bat because I was able to use perfect block to beat him And he dropped his His big old spear right and the first thing that I saw was that It casts golden vow on yourself when you hit enemies And it increases the power of miracles So it's like okay, that is that's good very much better. Okay For a very specific build It's yeah, it's it's just a really really cool like vanilla plus way to go like cuz I look at Elden Rang and go man That's a really fucking huge game to replay. Yes, exactly I would kind and I've already replayed it in its entirety twice So if I ever went back to it, I would very very much like it to be significantly different What the kind of mod I would be interested in seeing is like someone grabbing the this the traversal systems from Night ring and dropping that into I Would be crazy But I'd be curious to see like you could just bird fucking fly over and then crawl and then like fucking climb a wall You know, I'd be curious to see that dropped in and what it does There's there's like way too much of this to get into like they added a new Collectible for a new upgrade system and they made the game overall harder to deal with all the new powers you have But the thing that makes the single biggest difference is that you just regenerate fp by hitting enemies, okay, cool Yeah, so like Like hey, do you want to just fucking play the game and fucking use your skills all the time? Here you go not hitting this halfway through the hard dungeon time to stop and sit on top of my fucking Yeah heels and yeah, oh, what's really impressive is that they have a private server running? So when you install reforged which is super trivial you literally just down you install all the ring Then you download reforged and you go into the reforge folder and go play reforged and that's that's the entire installation It auto collect it connects you to the private server So your your online status with the real game is safe, okay, and you're still playing online With everybody on the private server running reforged and you still have messages and you still have ghosts and you still have bloodstains not getting banned And it's it's it was trivial to set up Yeah, super cool, I'm gonna keep asking six six six That's pretty much it for me me and Paige watched a couple more episodes of that new one-piece show that new one-piece show is pretty fucking great That's it that's it it's good. Oh people want me to talk about small saga. I played a game called small saga it is a JRPG about mice in London No, like red you might red all eyes of a photo of a mouse holding a Swiss army knife. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes Um It's very good, right, right Martin the warrior really really It really plays well into the the like It has a premise which is your little my your little mice's and in moles and shit like that and It really really goes for it and does an excellent amount of work with the setting So the very start of it is your little too little mice guys and you're like, oh, we're gonna go break into heaven to get food for To get food for the the village, right? You're like, okay So you go through the sewers and you can do this do that and fight a boss fight bubble-blah and you break into heaven and what's heaven? It's a Tesco supermarket Okay With infinite food as far as the eye can see But you are warned to beware of the yellow God because everyone who goes to heaven is killed by the yellow God And you're like whatever I don't give a fuck about that at which point you have to try and push a big old bag of sunflower seeds and In the back horizon you see the biggest door ever open and out comes a giant in a yellow hazmat suit putting in Pesticide Anti-mouse gas throughout the floor is those making you sick. Okay, and every step shakes the screen and terrifying music goes on Which leads to you getting caught in a mousetrap and Having to cut your own tail off to escape and It's influences are really really outrageously clear. Is this golden sun combat? Yeah, golden sun combat so You're you're fleeing from the yellow God and your tail gets cut and your mouse tries to cut the mousetrap and The sword breaks in half and becomes like a shiv and all you can do is cut your own tail off And then it does a then it does a flash forward and you're running around with a fucking Swiss army knife that everyone describes as being too heavy and too big for a mouse to use And you're fighting fucking cats and shit Wow, and it's like it's berserk. It's berserk, but with mice That's cool. Okay was It's fucking cool like you meet um you meet a mole And you're like, how are we gonna defeat this cat and he goes in his fucking collection of God items and Pulls a big lighter from out behind a Game Boy and goes we're gonna use this So you go into the boss fight with the cat and he's fucking sets the cat on fire with a big lighter while you stab it with a fucking Swiss army knife to fend it off and you're like this is a fucking Great use of this idea Like this premise is being absolutely perfectly utilized Another one for the fantasy mouse wearing Clothing genre. Yeah, they just wear little capes I think I don't know. I don't know if redwall or secretive nim Came first on that. I think secretive nim was probably first to the clothing wearing mice fantasy Fighting big cat that's right But that's a fun one Okay, but yeah, that's pretty much it for me if you want to see more Kingdom Hearts this week Go down to twitch.tv slash Pat stairs at youtube.com slash Pat stairs at Secretive them 1982 redwall 1986 yeah, I'm not as familiar with redwall Yeah, redwall is it's another it's a mouse night, you know Again my swaring. Oh, it's bunny rabbits, but when was a watershed down? Oh That feels way later I Well what year do we got 1972 never mind Okay, yeah, because to me the start is actually Watership down of like adorable animals but those in like hyperviolence But those bunnies are naked and they're just bunnies, right? Yeah, so It's it's very watershed down predates the furry revolution I Say that the cat like the category does not include them because they need to be they need to be little Wearing a little outfit and maybe holding a sword, you know or not nim you got you know the main character But you got to be at least one was Disney's Robin Hood Disney's Robin Hood was 73 That's it That it's right there That's the moment Okay, okay not Yeah, okay if we're if we're if we're expanding beyond mice Because but the thing but the thing with the mice version of it though is that you got to do Because the mice version of it is that it's always like the world is scaled down, right? You're getting the fantasy You're getting the castle inside of a hole in the wall in between the things and the whole world is scaled for that kind of Detail whereas Robin Hood is still like, you know bears and Foxes and everything at our scale but yes It's a it's a it's a fun Genre to return to so I might go back to a small saga because apparently the game is extremely short Okay Uh, yeah, but that's it for me. All right, what's up with you? Well, um, okay so a couple things on my end. Yeah, not a ton went back to slay the spire been messing around trying to get a better feel for it and um I still love me some defect and you know, um, I'm Getting through a bunch of Fun builds with that and and getting falling right back into kind of how much I enjoyed it in the first game I have to say that like saw that three ball system. Yep. So you got the three or more Orbs and each orb you generate a different element and those elements can either be auto attacking At the end of your turn or you can invoke them to do a powered up attack during the turn And if you want to set them up to be offensive defensive, whatever the case is It's like a secondary thing system that you're tracking while you're fighting and I I fucking love it, you know Um, and then while you get your orbs out you can spend your cards to focus to make them stronger Or you can just go for you know, direct damage or whatever the case is But if you do it properly you can do cool shit like spend your entire turn blocking Because your lightning orbs are going to do the damage for you, you know, uh, once you've defended against whatever's coming Um, fucking love them But I've been trying to figure out the necro binder more and um, I have a so I have some friends who've been playing um that have been doing a multiplayer and we're kind of talking about that a bit and Yeah, and one of them was going like yeah, they may necro binder and have been just going all in on it And I can't figure it out um I'm not sure make the hand stronger. No, I know right but like but like I guess the tricky part with and maybe what I'm missing is like Unlocking a few more like specific necro binder cards to make the the the kit work But make the hand stronger, right? So but the way you make the hand stronger is by using summon So there are not enough summon cards in your deck right away. You start out with like a handful of like Defense and offensives like strike and block cards way too many a bunch that you want to discard You know for your system to come to come online and I feel like um, I was I was looking out to try to to add as many summon cards as possible and in a couple runs And I was not seeing that many so I was like, oh like I would think that building up the um, austy's summon Uh would be the plan here But I was finding it hard to get enough summon cards to make that a reliable defense in most situations I found I had to just do normal blocking on top of that, right? So then I was like, let me try running doom and doom seems to be One real solid uh, uh route to go and it's the only route that I saw that made the character feel like viable But I'm wondering if is is it like is doom the only way because the doom system is like you basically um stack um gray life on top of them essentially and once they come to once their life drops below that threshold they automatically die uh, but it's you have to uh, you know still defend whatever they're going to do that turn and survive it or you can do cool things like Have them stack their doom in a way where um You do as much damage to their life bar as the doom that they already have on Or multiply it and have it like just build up and build up and build up You know, it's it's a cool thing that makes the character work, but Um besides that that's the only like way I found to make the character work in a way, you know, so i'm kind of curious to like Because you were telling me about them, but I don't know if you got only did one run with these character and I am noticeably shit at card games Okay, I'm shittin ass Yeah, I felt like I feel like I'm not seeing the vision Outside like doom is one way but outside of doom. I'm not really seeing You know the the vision with the character And it's you spend so much time and money like trying to trim down your your deck to maybe to to get Better things in there that i'm just like, yeah I don't know, you know, um you're kind of a lot of the time it ends up feeling like Might as well just play the um Uh the main the the night, you know in a way from just going to be blocking and attacking and You know hoping for uh An occasional extra hit with austy and stuff, you know Um, yeah, that's always frustrating in a game where you're like, I'm gonna play the weird character and end up doing The normal gameplay with that's not as strong as the guy who just does the normal that just does the normal gameplay. Yeah um So, um, i'm gonna i'm gonna, you know, take out take a look see and maybe there's more to it, but right now It's it's feeling a bit confusing to me um Good shit though slay the spire to is is yeah, that that's it's very addictive um That game is very early um I also Maybe my for maybe maybe it wasn't like this, but I feel like runs take longer like I find That I used to get to the bosses like I don't know in the first game I feel like it went quicker and there's points where i'm hitting like You know, oh you're hitting that first boss and you've been playing like 45 minutes to an hour, you know um And it's like you're taking a while getting through some of that so i'm kind of like hmm I wonder if you know if that's the what the deal is but um In any case in any case I have nothing to offer you because my brain just goes just play whatever card who cares But that's why I lose all the time Yeah, yeah, there's there's um there's a lot of Before you even shoot like there's a very The most one of the most difficult feelings to to get used to is here's your reward pick a card and the best option is none of them Learning when to do that is the hardest most like this is not the point of games games are like Here's a reward you've earned something good and you're like actually you're hurting yourself by taking the reward so skip it That's it's that I can't it hurts me so bad. No. No. I know I know it makes me so insane And you basically you have to pick Really early on it's almost like balochro where you have to decide almost before you start the run what you're gonna try for And you see your first fight or second fight and go okay Looks like the game has told me to to pick one of these roads and anything that is not Super conducive to what you're going for Just don't even try it You know you you have to fucking abandon any sort of like weird middle ground. Oh, maybe sometimes I can build up um One of these abilities, maybe I can go for a Lots of focus, but also I'll go for lots of or Generation and may I'll do a little bit of both and it'll be no you're gonna be star you're gonna be starving You have to pick one and fucking stick to it I think I think when you play the video game and you win you should get stronger and and this Yeah And when you get to like those act three bosses or act two bosses that are like um Hey half your deck is fucking status effects an unplayable fucking guck So you pull a full handout and you've gotten Two cards you can play out of it and the rest is just bullshit You know or you're going to take guaranteed damage. I hope you can survive it Pick a choose, you know, and you're like, uh, how fat is your deck? Did you make your deck too fat die? um Anyway, you know what was great about Fucking rick who's campaign and chain of memories I got to a couple boss fights that were tough and i'm like Well, I know this fucking fights winnable because the fucking game mandates a deck for this fight Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Like there's a fucking trick here that i'm not getting or there's a way to do this because There is no deck building This is the fucking deck they built for this fucking boss Figure it out and i'm like, oh wow I hate Customizing my shit at all so bad. Like I want I want wait a second I'm the one playing the game The developer should be doing the work to customize the fight to me What am I doing? Working to figure all made my own thing. Fuck that. You do it. I mean I paid you the money You can There are runs What in terms of just like what's possible and Knowing that you can do it There are runs of slay the spire too that you can just turn into a regular rpg Because you have a bunch of cards that are innate and retain So they start in your hand and they stay in your hand if you don't want to get rid of them and you could just be like Yeah, this is a menu You know what I mean that i'm i'm picking to attack you with and on top of that with fucking uh Defect I can turn all the status effects into into fuel and just get more pips of energy from it. So I'm playing a different game right now You know, honestly, that's like at the very end of sorus campaign and chain of memories You get the ability to use item cards to Give yourself back the cards you burned on moves And so it's like oh, I just I have enough I have enough resources to just Use any move I want like it's a fucking video game I'm going to use the moves that I want. Yes. Thank you. Just cards are cards are barely They're just representative of button presses at this point um, so okay beyond that Uh wrapped up expedition 33 and had a very great conversation Afterwards, I'm sure Uh, so yes Taking like like once more into the trenches standing there this time around I feel For this journey for the entire game. I have had so much restraint Like the entirety of the time that there was an opportunity to Push in any direction or I fucking abstained I was switzerland as fuck the entire time and uh regi made his choice and uh stood on it And I was like, okay, we can steal man The both sides of the argument here. Are you sure of your choice? You know and then he did and I'm like, that's the wrong choice Let me ask you a question I think so this this the time has passed for this comment But there was a dlc that came out. Mm-hmm. All right And I think That anyone who chose wrong and played the dlc should be shamed I mean absolute bitches So yeah, we're look um You know to not get into it, but of course just obviously turned they're clear if you don't want to hear major spoilers for expedition 33 I'm not even gonna fully pull pull them out. I've said everything that I want. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, um Suffice to say that like the more you enjoy What the world of this game has to offer The the more that proposition on the back end changes, you know and um Some real, uh Interesting stuff because you know even going through it Um, there were points that uh, I didn't catch In my run in my in my going through the game a big one of which was your verso um lore drop And your recontextualizer For his feelings and how they changed over time And you just are like, oh my god a little more complicated. Oh my god the hypocrisy digs even deeper Because you once stood where we all are now and agreed with us You were on the correct side and then Time passed people change things happened. You know, um Man, what an amazing finale to a game That even all this time later, it's like the game is so good gameplay wise and you're not even talking about that You're just talking about the the you know the the plot itself. I I just Are you gonna go up against the freaks in the tower? No, we took a look we took a look already. It's yeah that that those exist in my heart For when I replay the game myself in whenever I will know that that goal exists at the end For you know when I when I'm fresh when I've played through the whole game myself and I have my highly highly optimized party that I've built the whole way Not something that I came back to six months later to do the dlc and you know but the best part at least about the The the biggest challenge there is the all right um Is just you can never be ready like The red the reddiest you can be is still requiring split second decision making moment to moment With every swing, you know the goal of the number Is to make it so that you don't have to make as many of those split second decisions You can make 10% yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you the fight doesn't have to last Any longer than it needs to but there is a best mitigation is more damage But the the minimum you're going to have to do is I would imagine three turns right You're probably gonna have to survive at least three You know maybe maybe more um If you're if you're trying to fucking fuck with the divergent star anyways, um, yeah Just loved loved that finale once again and everything from the discussions to come afterwards. So good stuff there um And And the um It is interesting to well whatever not to the crack it open too much but like, um different Interpretations on what your third path could have been, you know that um Uh, I think it's actually fairly clear mm-hmm, but uh I guess there's an element of it that Okay, I'm gonna get into details for this part for for the All right, so the letter represents a path that could have been achieved if they dream Yeah, right if they uh talked about it and if they were open and honest about what was happening with the world and My my question is Would that been have been enough for them merely to present the letter uh that alicia wrote and then discuss what uh the outcome should be honestly or Would a requirement have been the letter and gustav being alive That would be the second one, right? It feels like that on its own is not enough you need gustav alive with myel for this third thing to work so the long the I I've thought quite a long bit about this and it's like the decision Versa makes the decision very early on that he's going to uniformly go for a singular goal And he's going to eliminate or allow things to be eliminated that will Stop him in that goal, right? Regardless if he changes his mind in the future Allowing gustav to pass as well as throwing the letter away Like those decisions are made, right? If neither of those two things happened Somebody gustav could have could have mediated a solution Between all parties involved and even still possibly actually fabricated a solution The the lumina converter Cheats the logic of the world. Yeah to such a significant degree that given time and An a non threatening environment There could have been solutions made which means in that a product of the world Created a system that breaks the world in a way that the gods of the world did not intend Meaning that that is possible Thus putting another feather in the cap of how sophisticated life might be if you're willing to just dismiss it as Disposable and put your toys away go home. You know It's it's yeah, and and I think too as well like there's that and then of course there's him as you know, um Also representing the ultimate in something myel doesn't want to lose and will never want to let go of and and so on such You know, it's like hey congrats versa You recreated the events that formed her personality the way that it used to be again Thus solidifying her resolve into being completely unshakable. She wasn't for sure about shit Until the end of act one And one of the funnest details on this replay that I caught So, okay, there's I had like I had like three pop-offs in secret One was seeing julie in an early cutscene um in the black and white vignette the second was hearing Real versus screaming Burning to death and how fucked up that is because that's not your happy memory of the brothers extending the hand And whatever that trauma ends up being but third and huge is At the cliff sides at the top of the reacher When verso is like no wait don't do it Don't do the exact same thing that i'm going to do Because I don't want you to when it's my sister. I don't want you to do it I want I want to be able to talk them out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah because it's me though, right because it's my sister. So no And and but yeah, and it's like you are in the exact same situation Doing the same thing that you are now chastising myel for Barely a few moments earlier and similarly myel is like well, it's what they wanted Later when it's her brother you've literally reversed The exact dynamic on each other with the same character even you know, yeah, no the the whole like Verso one point says we're all just hypocrites. No, is it Renoir? I think says we're all just hypocrites doing all the same things to each other Baked in hypocrisy. Um and the whole The whole narrative Is propped up on like a singular assumption, which is a deeply human sentiment Which you and I feel very strongly, which is no, but that's my me though. But me though That's my child. I don't give a fuck about the rest of you It's different when it's me. Mm-hmm. That's it. That's it You know and you take that and you put that on Renoir And it's like yeah, no, um He gets to say it. He gets to stand on that. He gets to be like, I don't give a fuck. That's my family I don't care what you say and you know and uh Him looking at the creations as well like lune and cl are at the end talking to god and going and and and like actually like Having a discussion about what it means to like, you know, uh, uh, accept the reality of this and he's like, yeah fair point creation All right, absolutely fair. I'm very sorry, but I gotta do what I Mean, you know Oh, man I think I think one of the most frustrating things that I've ever seen about any discussion is Ah, they're not even real. Who gives a fuck. It's it's so it's not a single character in the whole story Has that view at all even once the close. I'm gonna infer that claire feels that way I'm gonna infer that claire. You know what? Yeah. Okay her yeah alone Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna put that on her even though she doesn't say it right but like the actual villains No, they like represent the autonomy and reality of the fake quote-unquote people Yeah, yeah, you know these citizens of lume are just being so selfish by choosing to live like don't they know that verse so sad Yeah, it is so it's it's interesting Yeah, no claire sees a version of herself and goes ew gross I'm gonna put it into torment forever like um Yeah, yeah, you know something that that like popped up to in this discussion Is almost like I had a moment after We finished recording where I was thinking about like the you know the idea of the child and Adversal continuing to exist and like how it's like the darkness of forcing that on somebody right that doesn't want it and it's like It is cruel to force an outcome on somebody like that doesn't want to live like this But according to your logic, they're not real people who matter anyway, so who gives a fuck right? Why would it matter? Why would it matter if they're painted, you know I was like if I could do something that would make verse so suffer more. I would have done it like I oh my god Oh, man. Um that piece of shit Yeah, it's it's real interesting to look at it and be like, you know Um, you need to close the book and grieve and do all of that and also who could leave this poor Suffering child and person here in this environment. I could But but but from the person who's saying in the same breath You're in the same breath what you're saying is none of these people matter So it's horrible to leave this person who doesn't matter suffering indefinitely even though I just said they don't matter You know Yeah, but but but but you know the the um and and this does go Uh up and down because one of the other takes on this is like no But if you're looking at it as a text, right as a as a text that a writer would uh wrote and as a script and The the message of the story and what the intent of the writer is going for is to say that grieving Needs to come to a close and part of the process is to say goodbye And because that's the text of this message It means that automatically his choice is the correct choice because anything that prolongs it is going against the message overall of what I have Said of what I think the the whole thing is about and it's like That's you that's a horseshit. You can't just say that no that's the only reading of this and then decide that So i'm pulling out of the discussion Because that's all there is to it. Yeah, I mean at the end of the day the the whole omelas child soul thing Created life whatever is is just a large-scale trolley problem And and and the trolley problem is This person hates being on this train track Um, but it keeps all these people alive. Do you? Blow up the train depot and shoot everyone inside I Seems like yeah, and remarkably poor solution and to and then the even by trolley problem standards And then the other argument point there being that like no, they were all dead anyways There's nothing you could do and it's like we don't have that level of information about the state of affairs after the fact You can infer it you can guess it, but you don't 100 know with absolute certainty that that's the case Like I saw such a good Shit rebuttal of us talking about the reality of certain characters, which was bro. It's not even that deep. They're not real lol which Which valid But The real people in this story Aren't real either pet Because it's a story Pet that's why and that even look at the camera and say that That's why my favorite part of um A life to love Is the fact that that motherfucker is buried on December 33rd That underlying thing that even if you want it to go, okay. Yeah canvases aren't real the writers aren't real this magical world Isn't like no no no this Reality that you are saying is more important Is also not real We have Underlined How much we have made it writer wrote it you cannot ignore that the reality is still not reality here to have this discussion It's so brilliant the multi layering there is phenomenal I'd like to get into something that we never got into which was as we are talking about how good this shit kicks ass um That wait what December 33rd used to be real Eh Is this is this the fucking french Falmers armlack calendar type of shing shit. Are we pulling up la vansemerre termidor? Frumidor etc the months and the calendars date things that don't exist When was When was fucking December 33rd real ever? December 33rd does actually exist on the french republican calendar Fucking ash every month at 30 days fucking five or six extra days added at the end of the year to make up a 365 When was the french republican calendar fucking ash crimson ruins everything once again The french republican calendar was oh my god. Yes 12 years from 17. Yes three to 18. Oh five Yes, and by eight for 18 days in the paris commune in 1871 That means the french calendar would not have December 33rd 1905 And there were the extra days that were so screwed up right. Oh my god. Go look at fucking ash still fake Um Still a fake real not a real place France isn't real every single one Of this is the french's shit ever every go look at ash crimson's move list and watch that every name there is from this exact bullshit These fake names these fake months these fake everything's Funny how his plot ended up also being about like erasing and changing reality Oh my god, the french that doesn't exist This this this is the french that doesn't exist brought forward France is nobody Oh man Of course, it's that same shit Ventos ennivos et cetera whatever um, okay. Well in any case though, um Yeah, that's such a brilliant aspect of of of the way that shit was written and um Yeah, and and the the hypocrisy is baked in You know with with with the characters on that one, but I think in the end Uh, you know as much as we let it down easy and I'm like, okay Reggie has picked a side and uh I'm like cool I understand that I respect it Uh, I also think you're no longer human and we'll just have to move forward In this reality And I'll just you know your your your subhuman status is now a permanent stain and we just it's fine. We'll learn to live with it so, uh Someone in in the chat brought out something that we never got to which was how come I love expedition 33 so much but I Will shit on star ocean 3's ending Until the day that I die Can I guess You want to guess I can guess Yeah, I have to go for it. Is it because The absolute audacity and fucking gall to pull that rug In the third game after two games of established existing lore that you went to bed Completed slept on and then only in the third entry in the franchise you went actually none of that mattered Even though your feelings have already been settled the events of the two prior games you played They were Fabrications get the how do you not know that that's a I mean that's a silly thing to ask unless you and obviously the the the bonus on top Is for every subsequent star ocean game to go Yep, just just gonna keep going with this nonsense in the background and we're never ever ever ever gonna talk about it ever again If you if you are going to do that and it's gonna be let's okay It sounds dirt like dog shit regardless I remember but if you're gonna do it you at least do it in the same game so that it happens In and you feel the way you do about that world the first time you're introduced to it, right? um But this is like fucking introducing the concept of the animus in Black flag So, you know one of the things like People are saying well be due to your own logic those things did matter in star ocean 1 and 2 because they mattered in 33 No The story of expedition 33. There's absolutely No discussion of free will everyone obviously has free will they're all interacting with the universe as is In star ocean 3 the only people to get free will ever Are the protagonists of star ocean 3? Everybody else is just a bunch of fucking NPCs. Sorry if you just watered into that and you're planning to get around to it After the fuck later, but just yeah I love the difference so here and i'm gonna give you one more as to why this is such a big deal for star ocean 3 Star ocean 3 is okay star ocean 1 is okay star oceans 4 and 5 are okay Star ocean 2 is the good one It's the one that's super good And so as star ocean 2 is the good one Star ocean 3 coming along to be a ah that one was down Just just to do it And is like shut up And here's the thing too one not only are you erasing an entire game that never acknowledged this Entire from two good things from the past that you already felt good about or whatever But the discussion in expedition 33 as well is more sophisticated because it's also bringing up And questioning the value now that you know The nature of this world being what it is. Do you still care? Right and correct me if i'm wrong Well, my big problem when I was playing star ocean 3 is that I got to the end of the game And i'm like I already kind of don't care about this cast that's already okay Okay, so The part where you've made you've pulled back the curtain and you've and you've made it like none of this matters It's like there's no proposition to go Ah, but do you think it should because I mean the whole point going through claire obscure is like This this did matter deeply immensely. It was it absolutely mattered and and there's something Human here that you have to kill in order to decide after all this time. I changed my mind. It doesn't matter You know and I don't think that that's what star ocean 3 was doing by pulling up to that top layer, you know Um, so here's the thing at least I genuinely mean this Quality is a factor. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, right? Mm-hmm. So if I had gotten to the end of star ocean 3 being like Holy shit. This is like the best fucking Game ever. Oh, this blows stars from one and two out of the water Holy shit and and then I got to that twist I'd be like I'd be I'd be softer. I'd be a lot more willing to to like engage with it, right? But I didn't the whole time I played star ocean 3. I'm like, man, this just isn't as good as 2 at all uh um And I'm gonna say too that like with quality being a factor as well And this is nowhere near in the same realm but still just for the purposes of discussion When it comes to that assassin's creed animus shit that I was just saying like at least in that situation too You're like, well, I'm replaying events of history that occurred. So they did matter at some point Right, it isn't just a complete nothing here matters at all. You know, um, yeah When you get to the later games and they start just playing fast and loose with sure actually may have happened Okay, okay, but there's a there's a point that your that things are going through at least with you know In those early ones where you're like this is also you looking at events that occurred and and and so on right There's no complete just none of this means anything moment um In any case, uh Yeah, yeah, that is a in in in totality um Expedition 33 is a 10 out of 10 game and as such I was a lot more open to this type of twist Whereas when I was slogging my way through the six out of 10 star ocean three And it decided to tell me that the nine out of 10 star ocean two was actually fake. I was not open to this fucking twist Yeah, um, this is your yoko taro treatment of a script versus your david cage You know what tiger fang in the chat is right tiger fang 86 says when things are good, it's better I'm sure sure Sure My favorite he's right dead on um, my favorite part as was at the end of the expedition 33 discussion when I asked reggie Can a robot learn to be a human? Can a human What The real question is painting Yeah, but that's literally I was like I said I'm like, okay, but all joking aside I this question actually Represents this moment and I'm really asking it's kind of painting learn to be a human and then Fucking and Gustav and orverso goes can a painter What? Can a painter learn to be a human? Yes, exactly. Then fucking Renoir and Elid are like, I don't get it Right, what would you mean? I'm a person. Yeah, I don't think what is a human What you know and I'm like well, whatever the fuck you're gathering out of this group of out of the the Santor family That you're saying matters enough to you emotionally to consider them people whose priorities are and lives are worth saving The same group of things is in all of these individuals in this city and has been demonstrably Equivalent to me and there's nothing here that says these these fuckers on mount olympus are worth anything more than these people down here Guy and chat asking In chat, are they still on spoilers while the spoiler talk logo is directly above our heads right up there You could move your head two centimeters to the left bro. Um Yeah, you know what? Here's a hot take I bet the riders were right to These people are out of control These fucking painters are such pieces I was pat I had in my throat. I was preparing to say Well, at least hey You're on the right side of history here with me, buddy, and I appreciate that and holy What the fuck okay Okay, we're gonna need more context Um, but we know that riders hate that and then subtext while we're at it, but uh, we we listen The jury's out on how that fire started really Right I'm of the opinion that the way that fire started is that the riders wrote a story in which the fire started Because every when I was streaming it every single person and me all came to the same conclusion Which is that the riders operate under allen wake? Logic but then but then how much did my l have to do with it though? You know Like that's the I don't know like was it just did you just open the door and let them in or did you like Fucking go and get the the wicker And start and start my in my head canon they Asked her to write a story about her family Which she would obviously know very well and be able to get all the details right And then someone snuck in and fucked with her draft and said and then they fucking burned down in a fire Or they gave her something and she read it and by reading it it manifest It could be that but allen wake dream logic is so Is such a good companion piece To playing expedition 33 because allen wake logic seems incredibly confusing and nonsensical and retconi, but it's literally just It happened because that's what was written down and what? And you're a logo. Well, that's not internally consistent. It's like no it is at the second that you are looking at the page Is that what's written down right now? Then that is what happened. It's not when the pen Lifts off the the page Or the typewriter the pen lifts off the page and that's the way it always was Okay, okay, okay, and you're like no it wasn't and you're like yes it is That's the way things always happened Unless you get a new page which explains that no actually it didn't Okay, I see I see okay, I mean what I it is like permanent Retroactive continuity at any given time if we are in a situation where All my l did was Curiosity read something that a child was wanted to know that's crazy. That's insanity to put that level of guilt and build it and shove that on the kid That's fucked up if it was she participated in some way creatively then yes, there's more to be No, you know what it is, but I don't get the sense that I don't get the sense that Alina's being reasonable They they wrote in a little story that her little narrative and they're like and then that bitch left her curling iron on And the curling iron was like i'm gonna fucking do it. I'm gonna do it guys She she fell asleep with the cigarette in her in her hand You know, oh that's such a french way to burn your brother down That happened that happened uh in my family I have a relative who fell asleep with a lit cigarette and burned their house down that happened in an apartment I used to live in dude in the most french place in north america on my Yeah, you'd mention here in Montreal I I lived in a building that like a lit cigarette and fallen asleep fucking Cooked everything it's the most french way I know what a lot of people are thinking why would a lit cigarette burn your house down because we're talking about the mid 90s In which every single floor surface in the world is covered with the shittiest carpet you've ever seen Zubla Zubla manga of course The firmest oldest strongest would um Anyways Yeah, okay. All right good and all this to say that uh You know as as as I as I reach out and I talk to different friends um People are falling on the wrong side of history more and more on this one and I cannot wait for whatever sand fault makes next to come in and extra complicate this discussion Hold on expedition 33 Achievements You know if we're in a situation where like the slightest bit more context about this world in the future changes everything Oh There's no achievement for beating the dlc Shit You wanted to see the percentage? Well, no what I wanted because I and and there's no there's no um There's no achievement for a specific ending. It's just you beat the game because like the ideal for me is that you could check out the um the people's achievements and be like Oh, they got the achievement for the verso ending And then they got the achievement for beating the dlc showing that they are in fact a coward bitch hypocrite Okay for for caring about the world and returning to it Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. All right Yeah I mean listen, you know what they should have done They should have made that dlc only playable before the ending or after the myel ending If you pick the verso ending you you should not it should have fucking deleted the game off your heart Okay, okay. We're in the undertale genocide run like hey, yeah Never mind the paid product You never you know or gamer curiosity the the ethics override all of that the plot ethics mean you need to never open this game again It should have deleted your If I look at Yoko Taro game Oh shit, yeah I remember having a proper discussion about that with undertale as well of just like, you know, did you do you do you properly? uh um See that Do you probably see that genocide ending and the and the permanent conclusions thus are of Do you see it as Curiosity for someone who's playing a video game that wants to see all things or do you absolutely or do you accept the In narrative like no, you don't need to you know And I'm like here's my favorite part about that. I was like I want to see everything there, but you know what? Data mining and fucking around in the guts of the undertale save file system Also canon within all your tail sure sure. Yes, exactly right if you want to gaster your path I mean you should at that right but at that point it's like okay. Don't do this But you made it the sickest funnest moment in the game with the with the hypest music and the The highest challenge possible Appealing to the deepest dankest gamer in you so Anyways, all right. All right. All right. Um That's all good stuff spoiler discussion over Well, how's it go? Let me let me find the tweet Ripped to everyone killed by the gods for their hubris, but i'm different and better Maybe even better Um Beyond expedition 33 uh played a little bit more soul river and Uh, I mean the age on that is is showing and boy um Legacy of blocks puzzle river Uh, I thought last time that getting past that puzzle Egyptian block pushing area would have been the end of it And in fact, I believe you said don't worry you're past the worst of the puzzles in the game Um asterisk you're past most of the blocks. Yeah asterisk per capita That fucking one where you have to move the blocks between rooms Like guys I know this is Tomb raider idos of the past and i'm talking really is isn't it crazy? Oh my god like you can just see like it's like no, this is what video games are video games are about pushing Cubes into slots like that's of course What else would you be doing here? It's occasionally fighting, but This is the whole point of these things. Why else would you boot it up? You know? um Man and and I will and like i'm thinking back to to yeah in god of war That moment where they're like, okay. I know you have to push a block So i'm gonna make you push blocks too kratos, but at least you can go And kick the kick it all the way across the the the grid, you know um also swimming That that oh that water area the boss fight the your water temple equivalent here The boss fight there is absolute clown shoes nonsense Yeah, raha raha rehab rehab Yeah, i don't remember that shit at all. I remember light. It is nothing It is a nothing moment He sticks his head out and he stares at you and then you look around the room and then you hit some some glass and then You're like what? yeah, um The the decision to make I guess, you know every one of these encounters like a Mainly a puzzle solving bit not quite shining in the strongest there, but um You are also then rewarded with the swimming mechanic Which you know it always does feel nice to have the ability to move in all directions but the camera is fighting you and yeah aggressively you can feel like Oh, so the ocarina of time comparison Comes back here, but this time around it's with majora's mask where you use the zora mode And it feels way better to swim around as a zora than it does to go around as as rezzel where you can't control the camera anymore, for example it the the water thing is is I it was it felt more like thematic than gameplay oriented because Water is what fucking kills raziel's ass And then you spend the whole game going a fucking instant death And you're like oh cool. That's not happening anymore, but but also what I think back to Tomb raider not only am I thinking of block pushing. I'm thinking of Fucking Lara doing the butterfly Going up and down awkwardly in a bunch of tubes and you know Navigating that space underground as well and then the sharks and everything so you're like that is super old I'd ask too, you know, it's it's it's right on board with with everything that Tomb Raider was and just Boy you feel the age on it um It's really interesting at some games You're like this is just as good as the day it came out and other games. You're like wow This was so great for when it came out Right, right, right, right, right, right, so like you can still you can still appreciate it But like sometimes you're like oh No, oh we stopped doing this 20 years ago for a reason Like I can feel that the one of the biggest accomplishments at the time was what if instead of just fighting and beating enemies You had a system where there were different ways to take them down and you could use the environment to be involved in that process or You could choose to to you know temporarily put them down But if you don't eat their souls and they come back and you know like it's more well thought out than than other games 3d Action games at the time would would bother to do so it's like okay You're playing with systems there that are interesting for sure and then the whole like what if they're two realms that you you Come back and forth between you know life and death But uh, yeah, like it it is it is aging it is aging aggressively I'm enjoying it though. It's very it's fucking cool when it's not making me barf but I do find the There's the the moments of like making it through a new area and then going like okay Let me find that fucking teleport door like because that's your bonfire. That's your progress You know the next time you turn this off you're setting you're waking back up at the beginning of the map So you better open the door to the teleporter to get to otherwise your progress is actually not not saved, you know Yeah, it's it's it's it's kind of goofy making it back through that Uh, that's continuing Uh coming for I forget to say it There's games that you held up really well There's games that you can appreciate for what they were at the time and then there's shit that was always trashed like shenmu I saw somebody go shenmu one like no No, people tricked themselves into having fun playing shenmu one going. Oh, it's so crazy a game can do this It's the future. Are you having a good time? No, I'm miserable fuck But oh think about think about Think about the future when a game like this could be fun Oh my god Back in 2001 My heart wanted to believe that I was playing Akira world tour mode Yeah I wanted to believe it you could do the fucking elbow block And then you could practice doing it and then you could use it to fight a bunch of dudes and to beat him up mode Anyways, um This week, uh shit's going on so tomorrow I will be participating in the twitch rivals 2x ko Uh Tag throwdown. I think it's called So tune in for that. I am going to be teaming up with bricky And we are going to uh The goal is not necessarily I mean, we'll see how far we get but the goal is to make as many people as salty as we can and to be as And to be as disrespectful as possible so, um We are we are entering to upset as many of the Top players in that bracket as possible by any means necessary. Let's see how it goes um And uh, that's going to be starting at uh, 5 p.m Eastern probably going to load up the stream a bit before that just to warm up and you know get on the pumps. Thank you very much um Yeah We're gonna we're gonna see how things go and it is it is the night of Akali Eve. So It is the new build and she's gonna be in it and uh, we'll see we'll see how that goes So, yeah, um twitch rivals tomorrow, please tune in for that And then on thursday, I will be starting the new lp ace attorney 2 and justice for all I keep saying and justice for all but it's not and justice for all. It's just justice for all, right? Yes, that's right. Okay. Well, I'm gonna keep saying and justice for all because yeah, I know okay I also make this similar mistake. All right. So hey return of the objection uh, we Are gonna I was I announced that I put it up on the schedule and I saw someone say that uh, hey Woolly in the time since you beat the first game and now They've patched it to put phoenix rights voice lines in Context where they're not supposed to be so please either play an unpatched version or go play the original and I'm like Like I don't that sounds so What I'm so happy that you're gonna be able to play the chain of memories of the ace attorney series. Oh, no Oh Man I was waiting to say that to you until you locked it in I thought they were gonna learn and improve from where we left off They absolutely do They do Hmm for gameplay reasons or for plot reasons Ah, yeah Uh, I see I see I see All right, mainly the the main thing to remember is that the final case of ace attorney one Was made like decades after all the other cases were made So it's that that fifth case in a a one is like orders of no no no no no no no no more extreme than anything else I I absolutely am aware that that was dual destiny. Shit. It was not At the time and it and it feels immensely like like it for sure Yeah, so that's that's what we're doing. Um, so come hang out for that as well On saturday, we are going to be checking out local duos into xko as well Since that's now a feature that has been released. You can finally play duos koop on the couch Uh with whoever so Didn't they cancel that game? I thought it was done. What happened? Yeah Uh, and you know pretty smarter them too is like you so you can't play ranked coach But you can do casual and you're you get and you get double Experience points for playing with a buddy. So that's awesome. Very smart. Very smart Time to time to plug in a second controller and hop on juggernaut Oh, I thought you're gonna like to grab back and forth and and see what's up. Nah, man Um, yeah, so that's that's that's cool that they're getting that those features out and everything we're gonna Yeah, that's that's it and uh All of that over on woolly versus on twitch and on youtube Um, all right. Let's take a quick break Yeah, dog stomping he hungy brb. There he goes kaboos Okay, quick word from our sponsors This week the podcast is sponsored by rake holland Uh With mother's day coming up. 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I was so right to be fucking pissed so After not knowing what was happening with the first episode, uh dropping and then seeing a teaser for the uh second stage we were like so They did animate it. It's out there, but Netflix is not putting it out or what's what's happening? And somehow it's even more complicated Now that we have the answers What they're doing is releasing the the show as a um part core Release and what this basically means is each stage Is going to be Done and animated and be all together However, Netflix will do weekly releases Spaced out according to when each stage is completed. Therefore Um split core is the way they're calling it And it means that you're gonna have Uh a few you're gonna have a gap And then after the gap Jojo will be back and it'll be weekly releases of the second stage And then after the second stage is done it'll stop and then there'll be another gap after that until the third stage is Is there so I don't know what the deal is or why it's happening like this But according to their statement, this is part of our original release plan and reflects the wishes of our production committee So I have I have a question. Yes pat. How many stages are there? How many stages are there I don't know, you know, okay, I'll look I thought I thought you'd know I don't know off the top of my head. No Let's see there are nine stages. Okay Um stage second stage third fourth fifth sixth seventh eighth And then some of those arcs get real fat Um, so what you're saying All right, it's coming out in september The second stage will be coming out in fall 2026 Okay, so it's mar it's april But it came out in march Is this gap going to going to consider is the gap between one and two going to be the same for all parts? Uh, no, um, so there's gonna be like let's use our let's use our math in here. Okay, so making one episode Sorry two episodes Um Took forever and making what three or four or five episodes will take six months Or five months let's say five months so minimum Five months after that maybe up to six or seven months And then after that it as the parts get longer it could go up to a year in between Part this is the shittiest I was I was actually super right to be absolutely fucking pissed About the way this this is the worst possible version of all events It's kind of insane that we are now in the scongification situation where It would have been better if there was radio silence And then after all this time it was just released normally and then came out with jojo friday's episode week to week and that was it The fact that it started and then stopped is now creating anger where there was none There was already just well, we hope it comes soon and we're waiting for it, but because you've Popped the cork on it you now get this frustration of the release schedule and hey guess what I have a list not to mention I have a list from somebody talking about this exact thing Of how many chapters each stage takes up in the manga Which we can now use our math to figure out how far each part is going to be So But stage one is 11 chapters Stage two is 12 Sorry stage two is 16. All right, so 16 chapters divided by Let's say five months So that's five times third as 150 divided by 150 Is 0.10 ish So Oh, that's a bad way to do that 16 chapters over five months. No, it'd be Five divided by 16 0.3 So it takes 0.3 months. No Whatever I'll just use it. Okay, so it's stage three is four chapters So it should only take one month Stage four is seven chapters. So it should take two months Stage five is eight chapters. So it should take two months stage six Is eight it should take two months stage seven is four chapters It should take one month and then stage three eight is 30 chapters So it should take approximately 10 and a half months After stage seven For jojo to come back And then stage nine is six chapters. So it should take a month and a half We're never gonna get the honest story behind why this is happening. It feels like it feels like you're not gonna know What the reasons are? Um, so we're just left in the speculative place of You know, like because you all obviously it's just like again who to blame why is it like this? It's gonna be two and a half years. It's gonna be two and a half years to get it starting now So, yeah, um I I just i'm like is this You know, if it was you kind of just want to you want clarity in this type of thing to go like Is it the simplest? Is it like the the the production is complicated because it's hard with the horses Therefore it takes longer. Therefore it's going to take all this time. Is it just that or is it for whatever reason? Netflix is it is it Warner Brothers? Is it like what what is the reason why this is happening like this? No fucking idea, but it's a hype deflator and yeah It understandably sucks because people are like Now we just talked about 2x ko isn't that thing dead or whatever right like this like is didn't it start or fit it? What happened to that? I forgot. I don't know and um Attack on titan kind of ended in this place and they had like the production struggles to get to the final season and and have the Big breaks and stuff. Well, yes, but and we know that the reasons why were because of like One the quality and then not crunching their employees and trying to do it in whatever way or etc Right, right the the fact that they just it took them a long time to do the good thing. Um, but Uh, here you're starting immediately in that place without having the had the run up to it Well, actually, that's not true because you've had the previous parts But at least with this part it's starting right away on that foot and it's like man That the not talk not being clear on why this is happening is making it worse as well Um, so there's only one way that I can actually make this make sense in my mind and that is that When part six of jojo came out Netflix got the data and saw that new subscribers before or during jojo part six watched jojo part six and then cancelled their netflix subscriptions and didn't watch anything else on the service So the only way to make money off of this feather those balls for longer it out into Seven or eight months of single month netflix subscriptions And I think I also misremembered earlier with the attack on titan by the way not not to say the Not crunching but um, I there was a there was a thing that came out about like why the production Went off and took that long and why things worked out the way they did And I remember kind of seeing that and being like oh, it seems like You would have had to compromise something way way worse or Um, I I remember the end result being like to get this at the speed Anyone would have wanted you would have had to compromise in a way that we that wasn't reasonable Um, no, I don't need it to go faster. I needed to come out Yeah, one day in the future Yeah, so uh, you know, I I think too that like The whole thing being done is also not the way the previous Parts worked. It was always like a rolling schedule of like, you know, you you hit a deadline and then you have the next one ready for the next air date, um But in this instance I don't think it would have been realistic to expect the show to hit completion before starting to air But just some semblance of no, absolutely not some semblance of we'll see the head the head start could have been Not this David production did six seasons of of tv in a row On rock solid schedules and deadlines and five of those were weekly Every single week for their entire runtime um I didn't see i'm not an animator. I didn't see anything in steel ball run episode one that was so crazy that Showed me that it had to have like the fucking five to ten month breaks in between episodes It feels a little silly in retrospect that like the biggest complaint with part six was we had too much on our plates And then it killed the the presentation of it because like That's The complete opposite of what's happening now You know you're like damn you could have like brought this out You know part by part and kind of let it let us all enjoy it together You did it too like the batch sucks here. Don't do that. You spoiled the moment And look guys we're doing nine batch releases and here you just get the complete opposite of like oh, fuck I don't know when when this is gonna happen next and you know like the the like these the um Joe Joe Joe not even Joe Joe fridays the fucking Joe Joe Surprise it's out tomorrow Like next couple of years um Feels dog shit man that sucks that really really sucks. I don't know why Uh, netflix is making it uh hard to fucking be a jojo fan. I hate this has to be like To try and keep people subscribed for longer But like I'm not listen this could be again like almost like when we're talking about sony and blood born and all that type of Shit like the there's I I've said already in in previous weeks I know that I've seen david pro handle their end of the deal for multiple seasons now. Yes But is there a possibility that it's simply like this is a difficult show to to to do and it's going to take them longer And we're seeing the dominoes of that it's possible But I would I just I feel like it's weird that that wouldn't be communicated And furthermore in the interview that the day just did the other day It's like that would have been the perfect place to explain that as opposed to saying yeah We we don't know either we we we want to see it where you kind of are left to infer that it's not up to them Slash there are external forces that are holding it back. You know, I I don't know man because like They've clearly improved the quality of the episodes over time since phantom blood, but Like the same people working on the same show with the same techniques are gonna get like more efficient and better at it Yeah, I know I'm just I'm just uh, and I believe that and I I I do believe that I'm like It's way it's way more reasonable to assume that the company that has fucked up releases of things Consistently is the one responsible for the current fuck-up as opposed to the one that's done a great job with it so far That's not as being suddenly in charge of the fuck-up, right It's you have the track record of netflix versus the track record of david pro to go off of and I believe that I'm also just aware of the fact that anytime There's these moments happen and I know that I could have a bias towards things And I don't want to go back to how the days of me talking about platinum where people are like woolly will never talk shit about platinum or whatever and being too I'm always aware of how things can be like you're speculating You don't know the situation so you're just gonna guess and you're going off of your vibes on this And if you feel good about david production, you might be ignoring the part where they're responsible for this in the same way that I'm Saying yeah, maybe the blood-borne remake is a from soft decision and not a sony one Even though it's easier to blame the people you are constantly blaming for being shitty about something as opposed to flying away from me on this one I'm What? Okay, sometimes when we discuss the sometimes I can bring it all together Sometimes when we discuss a production company that does a really good thing that we like the developer of the thing And then the people who are responsible for its distribution and we have a long history of the distributors being dog shit It's easy to fall back on that Of the whole time and in many cases it's a reliable thing and every once in a while It turns out that you're like oh it turns out that the people making the thing the developers Actually were taking super long and there were the ones that were the bottleneck in the situation Okay, yeah, I understand what you're saying. So I'm bringing in that's it So I'm just bringing in the analog of that and going I'm gonna I'm gonna keep that in mind Because we don't know when we're speculating But history tends to show me that netflix who have fucked around in the past and completely Destroyed the release of things are likely the culprits here that that's all I'm saying because like I don't have any reason to believe It's david productions at all Right. I have no data to support that. I have plenty of data to support netflix doing stupid fucking nonsense I just you know, I would love to get the fucking clarity behind it. Um because yeah, sometimes shit takes long but also this fucking Statement saying that this was what it was supposed to be the whole time and this is what we think that's fucking nonsense Yeah, shut the fuck up with that you know, um What I'm saying is I want transparency on what's happening Because it's shitty to just kind of sit here and go well hype deflated and that's it, you know um The the product that we're seeing that was put out so far was dope as fuck and they're gonna release Like 10 episodes for stage eight and then have a month or a multi-month wait for the for the things ending And it'll be a 35 minute episode. It's like it's the worst fucking way to watch something like You know what netflix has done hold on a minute. Is it truly so unreasonable to? Say we don't know why these reasons are what they are and we're currently not being told the truth So I want clarity on that. Is that like does that seem so I don't think it's unreasonable It's also fundamentally pointless like you you already have a bunch of data to Blame one party and you don't have any data to blame the other we based on history We likely know but anyway, all right. All right. Yeah, no no point getting in a loop. Um netflix has recreated the watch order experience Of trying to get your spouse who's not really into it to watch a tv show with you where Okay, I'll watch an episode tonight Oh now we gotta wait a couple of weeks until they feel it again. Oh, okay. We were in a really good mood We were able to watch five episodes in a row They're not gonna feel Up to watching the ending for a year And they've recreated that for single people Um They've created they've recreated the woolly versus legend of kora watch order for the masses sure Like Ooh fun Yeah, um, this is the only time in my life I can think of uh Where A single property The same show has had bipolar Like examples of release of a release problem where you're yeah, um The only thing I could think of that's close is attack on titan Where we never got out of that first season and that bopped And then they waited a long time and they put out the second season and so on and so forth And then they got to that final season, which was it seemed like it took three years for that final season to come out Um I you know that I can't think of well there never was too much attack on titan coming out at once, right? Like That's this is like jojo is in a holy unique way um This is the first time we've ever had a show or a thing come out like this where you're like, ah dude Fuck you're slow it down. Actually. You're doing too much right now. This this format sucks for this You know and then to just completely go the other way on it. Yeah Anyway, um, there's not much else to say here this claire. They should do this sucks and It should turn steel ball run and the steel ball run should pude and just start making up bullshit in between episodes Oh god, just add the filler in between. Yeah, and it's and make it all like fucking storyboard quality at that Um or skits between the voice actors Yeah, I'm just sitting in a room reading reading pages and just flipping through it as it's as a table read um The only silver lining I can I can put on this is like Hey, you know what at some point in the far future will be in a place where hey silk song came out And it was good and now it's in the past You know like the entire journey of skong the all the pain all the all the anti-hype all the nonsense all the lack of communication Etc. Well, where are we now? We're sitting in a world where it came out. We beat it. It was good. All right life moves on Stories were not built to be told at random intervals That is not a good way to enjoy a story That's not good Books aren't supposed to come out with random chapters And they're definitely not supposed to come out with random decade long jumps between books Not when they're meant to be like not appointment viewing. Um, what's the word i'm looking for like serial Right when not when not when they're meant to be serial In how they're released the original formatting of like sitcoms and bullshit on tv was Actually random viewing because you don't know what happened between the last 15 episodes you didn't watch and now you're tuning into friends And ross and rachel broke up. Oh shit. Okay, you know But not for any they should have just opened up every episode of friends with ross is a cock You're up to date It's ross's fault Fuck ross I would have taken that as well as a black people counter in the corner of the screen just to let me know and it's like Oh, did it tick up to one or are we still at zero or how there is a song about this woolly Have you heard the song I don't think I have no there is literally a song about black people and friends It's up to about 15 or 20 Interesting. I've never but it includes bit characters like The guy they ran into at the bus station and the waiter at the place. Okay There you go It also includes the family That ross met after he Had that tanning bed accident Interesting we're getting specific There's an episode in which ross is so stupid He accidentally gets sprayed eight times on the front in a tanning an automatic tanning booth And goes to a dinner with his new black girlfriend date slash and meets her mom and dad Full body blackface. Okay I'm not you know what I'm I've missed out on the lore It seems I am not I am not fully up to date on my friend's lore Wow, I'm going to send you a screenshot of this Jumped into my mind Interesting of david swimmer in pseudo tan blackface Ha With the credits rolling so this is either at the beginning or end of the episode. That's the end of the episode That's the stinger we're ending on Damn, yeah, here's a here's a screenshot of him lifting up his shirt to show off that he in fact got sprayed eight times with the Tan on the front. There you go. Okay. All right. I say, okay. It's the tan the tan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I got it I Wow Well, anyways the point remains that I can tune out of friends and then tune back in to catch some blackface and be like Oh Ross You know and not really pay attention because it was designed to not be consumed in sequential order In fact, it was probably hoping you missed a bunch of that and then tuned back in randomly like a Yeah, no tv used to be so popular run on on 26 episodes a season and it would fucking kick ass because Only three episodes in that 26 had anything to do with shit Star Trek is the greatest serialized tv show ever Hey, man. What's happening on this one? Oh the transporter again. Wow Really? Again with the fucking transport. Is this a rerun? No different transporter accident Yeah, again, I have to say it really is the strangest thing about you you guys talking about star trek and everything is how this in my brain was a show that was like Inignorable you catch random episodes while it's on sometimes show And then you guys test turning it into actually you watch the whole thing and follow the the Story of it like I it's like I so I can I can break this down for you. It's very similar to cowboy bebop. Yeah your Your season premiere and your season finale Always go into a larger meta plot Um and character narratives are going to progress in a sequential. No, I completely get that right and the same thing for x files as well Right, but I just it's just that I was young enough at the time when these shows were happening That they still fall into the old tv like categorization their peak old tv model Exactly of like it doesn't matter what you're tuning into is star trek on cool I like star trek and that's it and that's the end of the thought So years later being like oh people really followed them and knew the deal right reboot was that too. I just care You know, but reboot was absolutely designed for like and tune the fucking catch painted windows don't I don't know Yeah, star trek and x files were really excellent examples of like A serialized tv show that had like it had a core plot right there. There was things going on But like the main thrust of it was telling a very talented writing team Do you want the freedom to write Literally any fucking story you want because the the setting that you have for x files or Star Trek you can you can do goddamn anything you fuck them on you have very little Very little constraints On what you want you want a beach episode with Picard? Fuck it You want a body stature nightmare thing? Fuck it. You want wharf to turn into a fucking crab and do a slasher movie? Yeah, who gives a shit do the costume guys have the budget to make wharf look like a crab? Oh only for a single shot in the entire episode. Yeah, we can manage Uh, um were there ever any like old cartoon style like guest characters who happened to show up Because they had another show that was that was debuting soon or anything like that Because star trek they only did that once Someone's here because they're they're they're they're here to promote their shit No, what they did was for the season premiere of deep space nine They had The enterprise dock at deep space nine Cool because deep space nine started during season four or five of tng Yeah, okay So they had they had the moment of like data and julian or chit chat and about medicine and Picard and sisco have beef And wait a minute ds nine is not the sequel to tng It is but they aired concurrently Whoa So it didn't start afterwards two three four deep space nine one tng five deep space nine two tng six deep space nine three Seven end holy shit and then ds nine four five six I think is there something and voyager did the same thing? Voyager feet I'd have to check I could I believe so because voyager voyager's beginning storyline Takes elements from the fifth season of deep space nine Okay, but these are treated as like almost like spinoff series as opposed to just like we locked down this one's time slot I thought that like Star Trek This season ended and then then we started a new show, you know like jojo parts. Voyager started in january of 95 Uh But it makes more sense that tv would be like this successful show is doing a spinoff and now we have two Primetime slots nine started 93 So it goes tng in 89 deep space nine and 93 voyager in 95 as tng was ending So there was a period of time in which There was two two new star trek shows on for like five six years. Okay. Okay Yeah, uh, I thought yeah, I mean it makes sense that if you can get the the viewers Tune in for it. Why not air young Sheldon right afterwards and and just locked down two hours of time for everybody If there was a period of my young life in the mid 90s where if I wanted to watch star trek There was not an hour of the day that I could not find some goddamn star trek on the tv You had the original series running on fucking loop on like some sci-fi channels And then you had tng voyager and ds nine all airing within each other Yeah, if I came home and wanted to watch fucking star trek I could just flip on and watch random star trek episode and that's why trekkie slash trekkers ended up watching so much Fucking star trek because they ended up watching it completely out of order in random random So the only way to catch every episode Was to just turn it the fuck on every time it was on which was every single hour of the fucking day It's so weird how nowadays like at least okay Well the equivalent of this like turn on something random ass Viewing experience doesn't really exist in anything that like I feel we watch anymore And it is there for like essentially reality tv and that's the That's where all of that like it doesn't matter what episodes you're tuning into or what's going on You can pop on any one of those like current reality nonsense things and just catch it at any point in time And the sequence doesn't matter But if you are watching In sequence then you're getting the t at its at its At its peak temperature, you know, so One of the reasons why t and g got to succeed Was because of the nature of this weird syndication thing because the first two seasons of t and g kind of suck ass But the show got really popular in the third season, but you'd turn on T and g and you would be presented with a coin flip. Is this shit Or one of the best episodes of television that you've ever seen And it was a coin flip like every day for multiple years And then once you were like, oh, I want to watch the episodes when they come out Now you're in season four And all the episodes are good I feel so like that I don't care what i'm turning on it's just it's on and you can watch it in any order thing Like that before because obviously now we have streaming and that fully just replaces all of that and so on um Yeah, I think I think shows like like cops and first 48 and shit like that was also like or or you know, um, um, what should we call it? 24 hours of in practical jokers marathon On true tv or whatever is like Those are your direct replacements for this style of old television. That just doesn't really exist anymore um Anyways, I uh I don't even how did we oh, yeah, we were talking about steel ball run. It's the best I Imagine turning on random episodes of random parts of jojo at all times of the day and just catching Like the end of fucking battle tendency and then like Midway through shiget shio's arc There should be right afterwards channels Oh, and it should be Battle anime and other and you turn it on and it's just a fucking episode from fucking something I mean too nami kind of does that right like they do a block of just like here's some random parts of random anime that's airing and Um while I was in a hotel room. I saw they played They were playing some battle tendency actually and then right after it was dubbed and then right after that They went into like dr. Stone and I think they just kind of run random episodes of that Over and over again until you know, the next thing takes the slot Uh anyways, all right. We're we're lost in the weeds Because star trek came up. We we found ourselves out here, but um moving on star trek all day Um, well, how about yeah? Yeah. Well, what if what if you could experience that? Via the mass effect television program It's the same thing, right? I have I have a final thing to say about star trek and it actually ties in to our star ocean discussion There's a star trek series that star ocean itself And everybody hates that shit too. Oh, uh, yeah, I think I know that I know the one. Yeah. Yeah the pile of fucking shit It sucks ass. Mm-hmm. I heard about that. Um So the mass effect tv show Has to go in for full scale rewrites Top to bottom Everything that's been written and built so far Start the fuck over Because it needs to be made more appealing to non gamers Do you know why it needs to be made more appealing than non gamers? No Because the mass effect tv show has been pitched as the interstitial connective tissue between mass effect three And the new mass effect new one that's coming out. Oh my instead of I don't know adapting They need to have a story that links a very complicated series of events To a new thing. Oh my god. Also can't really matter. Oh my god. It's or change the status Fuck it's canon It's mandatory canon the game that's being made. Oh my god. This actually matters and is going to have to explain things But it can't matter too much woolly. Oh, this is the worst possible decision they could have made That's insane. That's so insane that they made it so apart I was talking to page about this a couple days ago and I was sitting there and she was looking at me and I was getting mad I was getting fucking mad And as and I was I explained to her just I'll explain to chat and you're in the same boat We've played a very fairly high amount of mass effect. I replayed mass effect in one and two Like six times like I got my fucking whole furosie up in mass effect. Okay and I could give you like 10 ideas off the top of my fucking head Of times and places You could put a mass effect tv show. Mm-hmm That would be more interesting than the in between right off the top of my head How about the first contact war? The most important part of the setting that's never been explored in any way Why not a set of stories in the attic and traverse a place that doesn't affect the main story But has shit going on all over you could do a fucking Film noir bullshit thing on the set of expanding on Expanding on anything cool that was mentioned in the lore in the it could cover the rat-nye wars and the rise of the kroken You like there's every every thing First contact would also probably be like affordable and reasonable on the on the cost because you can use like more human Like the first contact war is so perfect. Yeah, because they could show humans meeting a hannar for the first time Yeah, yeah, it's a jellyfish and that sets up the fucking God damn it man Man, that's not what they're doing. They're doing a fucking 3.5 So they have to continue into 3.5 while simultaneously explaining the entire setting in a large-scale galactic war And you know, they're just looking at like last of us and all these other tv shows and going like Oh, but we could we can dominate the zeitgeist of the conversation, you know Like we got a guy in chat. It's this first contact war would be 90 humans. Yeah You could do fucking five episodes of the first contact war and then they capture a turian And that's the only fucking time you see a turian on screen and they make the turian a practical effect And he's injured and he looks amazing because he's made out of rocks and bone and goo Fucking mass effect chain of memories, bro I don't think kingdom hearts fans Oh Expecting us to use chain of memories as a long form pejorative No Oh, no, it's happening This is the worst piece of news you could have told me I I had yeah, no that thing is cooked also the Like let's let's all be very blunt um What have we seen of mass effect 4 nothing trailer? You're not uh teaser kind of teaser EA And bioware Every every fucking month I'm like is this the month that bioware goes under and they get folded out like so you're not just making An interstitial tv show in between one game and the next the fucking game that's coming may not come out Or it may get delayed multiple years I guess the thought is like well andromeda already exists and we're gonna ignore that so It can't hurt to just throw it's not like we're preserving anything pristine here You know, there's no there's amada is the biggest air ball of any clean break of all time But but that's that's what i'm saying It's like if this were like no the integrity of the numbered franchise must be kept pristine It's like Bitch nah andra you already fucked this up. So maybe so maybe the can't get over We went to a whole new galaxy and encountered one new alien You know, so maybe their willingness to just force this show on to it for better and for worse Is like yeah, it because who cares? You know and and if and if anything it'll just lead to increased sales because all these new fans that don't care These all these non gamers we're gonna write for are gonna be like oh wow Where could I see the continuing adventures of shepherd and everybody in this story that I just watched? Ah, well tune in over here in the new mad So yeah, that's somebody who's a massive massive star trek dork woolly. Oh the fucking marketing horseshit dude extra nuts Because mass effect is based off of star trek like it's a very obvious one-to-one inspiration That means the blueprint For how to make a mass effect tv show exists It's literally right there And you wouldn't make it like tng because you'd probably want to have a mass effect tv show take place In something where you'd be able to encounter lots of different aliens So instead you would put out and it would be called mass effect citadel and it would be be about people who live on the citadel or c-sac on the citadel and it would be star and the politics of the citadel and the various races And you could do a whole fucking seat you do five seasons of tv just Just between fucking people in the citadel you have an l-core who runs the bar, but it has terrible service because he's a fucking l-core Star trek. Yeah Star trek with even more alien boning Let's run it I'm gonna stop you right there Not quite there's a lot of alien boning on star trek. I know there's like I mean the beginning and end of fucking Kirk is all about that, but I'm saying even more though No, you don't you don't understand And how it's not even that much on camera is it? Because I mean there's fades and yeah, there's there, you know, I'm like in this case you're fucking you're Deanna Troy gets impregnated by a spot of light sure What wait what? All right, sure season two. Yeah, all right. Okay, woolly Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop you right here Because I've described star trek as a as a franchise that you can write any story that you want, right? And you're saying you could have more sex in mass fact than you have in in well because they're they're fucking cameras panning up Asari crevices and shit, you know There is an episode of tng and I believe it's the final season in which Dr. Beverly crusher attractive older lady redhead goes to her grandmother's funeral She finds her grandmother's magic. I I Know hold with me magic candle And her grandma's diary She starts to read her grandma's diary in which her grandma describes that she met a much younger man And he just fucked her shit up for months before she died and Beverly's like drinking tea and just reading her grandma's smut journal Lights the magic candle turns out that younger man ghost Beverly then falls into a passionate Ghost love affair with him until she becomes crazy and possessed And it's up for data and Jordy to go down to the planet and dig up her grandma who attacks them Before they figure out how to banish the sex ghost from Beverly Yeah, okay commander shepherd could never All right All right fair enough game recognized game um That is episode sub rosa 165 Thank you for 14th episode of the seventh season Seventh season is when they're like we can do anything fucking we're gonna do whatever We're gonna have shit like sub rosa and fucking masks where the ship gets taken over by aztec masks And it builds a little pyramid in the engineering bay. Oh my fucking god. It's the craziest show the seven man um Yeah, man the greed to just fuck this up and and and it there's it has no chance. There's no chance It's crazy. Yeah, you're given up. You're given a tv show That the setting by default and its inspiration says hey, you know what you can do with your sci-fi tv show anything You could do anything you want and they chose the one thing that would lock them into a tiny little writing box And it's and whatever happens is going to matter or at the very least definitely be of consequence to Whatever is coming next Like that first pre the episode that they wrote first that got cancelled Probably spent most of like an hour Expositorily explaining the first three mass effect games So that people would be caught up with the setting Man, eh well whatever anyway, I just I'm like whenever you when you have you have there's different ways to approach it You can do your star trek approach or your star wars approach of like here's a bunch of side things and like this one sucks This one sucks. Oh that one was good. Okay. That one's cool and and you you you get your your fucking Shikuriri board of stories being told but For a dead franchise And then just like hard committing like this to whatever the results are you better fucking pray Do a fucking season of tv where you follow nihilus Around on a bunch of specter missions And then the final episode ends out with like hey nihilus. You got a call to go down to eden prime I mean look then goes nihilus's adventures will be continued in mass effect if the gamble works and and somehow it is good then You know it'll pay off for them in spades However, when you're getting a new story like the one I was starting with which is we're rewriting everything to be able to appeal to non gamers aka then we're writing for no one like Okay, so That doesn't bode well for whatever the end result will be because for example if you were to tell me that You know there was going to be an alien tv show I'd be like oh boy that probably sounds like it's going to be bad and I have heard From people that alien earth is actually quite good Uh, I don't know how it ended but at the very least when that started people are getting pretty hype on it Saying that like hey, they actually figured something out here and it and it worked as a show um I Don't know if that continued to be the case Did it fall the fuck off? Okay, it's actually quite bad. Well never mind then that's unfortunate I I wouldn't I I heard good things when it first started but oh well Well um problem some of the other star tricks also started to fall off too. Yeah Voyager started to fall off um on episode one Well, if we're going by batting averages, then I guess mass effect is Comfortable fucking hitting below par isn't it? Yes, it is It will never beat that fucking lcore room It's so stupid that we're stuck. It's crazy how every single person Here in this conversation About this and going I just want a fucking tv show where you hang out in the dudes office and have you even bitch about We keep getting dragged back here and asuna. I'm sorry. I know you're flipping your keyboard as we speak But just we're stuck here again We're stuck here again, man. Oh, yo, yo, yo, yo, all right. Well the lcore and volus My office is the shenmu of mass effect Where you're like, oh my god This could be anything And it'll never be this again. Actually, it'll never be as good as this Pat could you imagine if they announced the mass effect show was going to be a single shot? lcore room series And the whole show takes place in that one room It Like it's just the comings and goings Of the citadel and and what's happening with the fucking With with alien race relations today lcore office drama, you know volus looking at the camera going Yeah All right, anyway, yeah, no, but seriously like deep space nine is like the exact template for Like a mass effect television show. Yeah, sure. And then and then every other it's right there But and then every other sci-fi tv show series that has come out and people liked that has come and gone, you know um the the good Battlestar galactica stuff, I suppose and until the the I mean Hey, man, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I can say firefly and and you know, maybe you Never watch it again to find out if I can confirm how I feel about it and leave it at that That thing aged like shit. I think it's probably fine and I'm happy never finding out moving on Uh, all right, what happened so we got that going on as well. Um Speaking of um, oh orville's great by the way, sure sure Speaking of uh, uh I guess the shit that that lives on the cutting room floor or ought to Um, I don't know. I just thought it was kind of cool the the recently lancet mcdonald pulled out uh Elden ring cut content and got a little a little uh Cut scene of mckella planting the hallowed tree That's cool was going to be in the original game with a little bit of dialogue and uh showing the details of his blood kind of going into it and stuff and um I wonder why it was cut because it's like I guess the idea was to just kind of go like all mckella content should be left for the DLC let's not even show or hint at anything until that point But um It Yeah, the the i'm surprised that it took It was it was this long to like pull this out considering how much this this game has been data farmed in data mind They had I think the voice lines are ready before this but they didn't have the actual data for the cut scenes One of those things it's like it's a cool detail, but it's like fundamentally unimportant Yeah, it's just showing that this got planted at some point in the timeline that is convoluted And then you have to infer how and when this would have grown and how this works into when you show up versus When the shadow of the archery shits going down so um Yeah, in any case uh beyond that uh, so We got the world tour trailer for ingrid And fucking boo I think If you're gonna take the character that is emblematic of everything I have fucking hated for years and do the street fighter six, which is glowing them up Great giving everyone the glow up. How do you save ingrid? How do you make this character work? You make her a fucking weirdo alien with a catamari head That's talking past John world tour to the camera looking at you the player and just commit to it And sure she's a super weirdo. She's having her own monologues about reality She speaks like an old lady in the japanese dub for at that So commit to it. I find a that's more interesting than I guess just the kind of you know sailor girl that was Doing the things from before that just stood around and kind of flipped her head around Um, she's the she's like a fina or so she continues to be that but we know and we're making her we're keeping the weirdness Uh on point and second and most importantly She opens a door And from that door You know what you know what you know what you know what that you know what's standing behind that door fucking morrigan is standing behind that door Anything from anyone anywhere Is standing behind that door Not that you need the excuse because you had terry get on a bus and walk into you don't you know But if you needed to you have now created a device and character To make any future dlc of any kind happen Because we've pulled the band-aid off and guests are a thing and now time and reality Contrivances are also you don't need that though. It's a fucking fighting game. You don't but you have it Because it is at the very least you're like, okay akuma is chilling over here and take tech and land and And terry walked over here from above from the bus stop But those are happening in modern-day parallel And whereas if you want it to cross time And and other dimensions Then you can you can have a doesn't matter In soul caliber you have garret literally fall through a fucking portal In monster hunter you have garret fall through a fucking portal Regardless of characters in street fighter already magic sure like But here is a character showing doors to portals So I bet they're gonna use that in the future to make some explanation for someone walking it. It seems likely that's what they're gonna do I bet you that's just gonna be some of our gameplay things They shall have a teleport and she'll have like a Like a gargoss disconnected normal kind of thing I feel I think that like making her the last piece of this season and then make and just kind of going like We're recommitting to having a god of this universe and whatever stuff like they seem to they seem to care about their lore more than they ever have and Are committing to that Are they're committing to whatever they're writing here and they really really really? are are um They're putting it through more scrutiny than they ever have Hmm so I I think That in this weird world where suddenly street fighter story Matters more than it has to any other street fighter game Of course doesn't but because they care You have a character that has reality warping shit and going on and you're making that a part of her They easily could have just made her like yep. She's the pandora fucking lady from street fighter cross-tech in that is um Still just tossing out fireballs and doing the same shit as before but here's an improved version of it But I feel like them going out of their way to have this whole cracking glass thing and stuff means that they're trying to They're they're probably going to use that in some way or at least giving themselves the the thread to pull on I think you're crazy. Oh, we'll see. I think like We're talking about fighting games Well, I'm not hot you alive I'm not saying it matters pat and I'm not saying it's good And I'm not saying you need to care about it and I'm not saying that it's something that is Going to suddenly become good. I'm saying that It I bet you the reason why they did that is so that they can do this after It's not it doesn't have to it doesn't have to be good or matter that is that somebody on the team likes ingrid Yeah spitballing much more likely i'm just i'm spitballing what we got there But also to what you said earlier is like if you're going to do ingrid at least they can try and save it by this They can try and save ingrid by turning her into a character that's named Not ingrid And not having her in the game I i'm looking at what they're doing here and you know, they hey just like all that they gave dj the glow up They gave they gave alex the glow up Everyone got their glow up um If they commit to ingrid being maximum weirdo And just not and everyone on the cast being super creeped out by her. I'm i'm interested in seeing Where that goes and what's going on because it's something as opposed to nothing Right what she was before was nothing and now there's something so Let's go. Let's lean into it You know, I'll take that awareness and although the the silliness it'll bring um Over over any of the shit from before Because I see a comment saying that a couple months ago. I said I don't actually care about hitting ingrid calm down No, I've always been ingrid's most intense hater. I that's not true I've hated ingrid since the day I saw her. She's fucking trash, dude. I I also her new design looks like shit Hey, her old design wasn't anything to write home about but her new design with the fucking head boobs looks like trash The the king of all cosmos ass head gear. I don't I don't mind I don't mind it. I don't mind it. I think it's fine. I I just uh Yeah, I'm like I'm looking at this character and going what was there in the past was so nothing that it is absolutely hateable um And in addition to feeling out of place in many we weird ways and in this game and not even like Not even so much out of place because the game is so full of freaks and nonsense anyways, but just like Lame I'm not I'm gonna stop saying out of place and I'm gonna start just saying lame. It felt like it sucked You know, um, and it doesn't have to be aggressive or hard hitting or super duper aggro for me to think it's cool At entirely it's not about that. It just it was lame but um, yeah, I believe I believe in the glow up I've got an eyebrow raised and I'm curious to see what they're gonna do with it Um, not to mention of course a carame as a move set a character that because she also had like a basic show-to-thing going on I foresee her being a completely different character Yeah, if if part of her moves involves like the reality of the stage glass cracking around her and You know what I mean? Like all kinds of like distortion god-shit happening and her floating and doing Moves and weight like then okay. We got something interesting going like if she's defying reality as she fights you in a lot of different ways cool I So always think it's fun when you have a character like slayer or oro or someone who's like way Out of like out of your league that's like playing along You know and like how you reflect that on them being like taking damage or getting hit or being knocked down or things like that So uh, they could do that here So here's where I'm at um, I look at jp and co this character should not exist in street fighter 6 This I still like we're multiple years in I'm still like jp is a fucking blaze blue character that snuck in Move set moves set wise Yeah, and for For ingrid to come along and be like by the way here comes another Magic nonsense piece of shit. Oh goody. I'm playing street fighter I'm not playing fucking blaze blue or guilty gear Yeah, I uh, I mean for jp like It is massively annoying But I like that his character is built around that hole. I don't want to actually fight you I hate this shit get away from me You know, I I think that works lore wise with what they got going for him with this old man. That's like The fighting is beneath me so Let's see what they do here. That's that's where I'm at on it Anyway, hey one of the chats say rose and monat exist. I would be So happy if rose or monat was here instead of fucking ingrid. Yeah, I fucking love benad. I think benad's super cool um yeah anyway the Uh That's just a world tour trailer. So there's nothing to really look at for now We'll see what happens when the next uh gameplay really wish they would just put out the whole trailer I Don't care about the world. No, no, no, but yeah, because I already know what their character is Yes, it's it's the marketing rollout. You know, they know you want to see gameplay. Most of us do that's but they're like No, we got this other mode here and we still got people working on it And we can get you talking about it without actually showing off the stuff and yeah It's it's just you know, it's a marketing thing the tease before the tease so Introducing the idea of the character and the and the voice and the so on talking about all this shit And then next time you can talk about our frame data, you know anyway, um Be what's going on as well. So not much to get into because it's all super in-depth gameplay shit here But guilty gear strive 2.0 It has a bunch of information dropping as well I mean, there's balance changes and system changes and things that are not really For conversation here to get into the nitty-gritty of it. But if you want some Overall fun highlights happy chaos the gunman has been Shot and completely reworked into a different style Of annoying character. Oh good and it seems like There's a chance that either They're going happy chaos will now either be less annoying to fight Or you've designed a different kind of beast entirely And it's and there's seems to be discussion around whether the changes they've made are going to just create a completely different kind of problem or um actually fix the issues um But like yeah, they've they've made it so that he can't be as he can't just sit there across the screen and shoot you Non-stop as much as he could before it's harder for him to do that In in so many words um Looking at it. They showed off as well. They've made it. It seems like it's harder to now use asca the card guy And you know a bunch of other stuff is going on as well. I see some cool new things where naga reyuki is fucking Got a blue blood rage mode thing going for a second and um The game it looks like it's properly different and hey, what's nice too finally accessories and and Things like that like we're not seeing full costume sort of looks yet, but you see um soul using um the junkyard dog mark one for example the big Fucking meat slab that or a holy order soul was using Back in the day as like one of the cosmetic weapons. So it's like there's finally going to be some cool like that's a cool detail Cosmetics you can use for the characters. Yeah, or like take off jackos like um pumpkin head thing and stuff like that Um, so that's dope. Um Beyond that um Only a couple other stories Over at take two they have laid off their head of ai As well as an undisclosed number a disclosed number of employees who are working on Leveraging ai at the company. So it seems like take two has uh, chain reversed course And changed their mind on shame about the folks who got fired, but Uh, it's interesting because most of the time you are yeah, these stories are often about like You know people are getting fired and replaced with ai and in this instance the energy is changing and the um Hiring up of an ai team is actually getting let go here. So yeah, whatever their thoughts are on this Seems like they're They don't longer believe in it You know Good Do they know something that that we don't know or do they know exactly what we know and have been I think they know exactly what we know What we've been they just saw it happen in front of them in real time Yeah Um It also um I imagine would be Considering how much I think GTA is gonna Clash up against ai when it does drop. Um, I wouldn't be surprised to see them distancing themselves as much as possible Uh in that same vein Uh Nexon ceo Came out and said that arc raiders was a trojan horse To prove that controversial ai tools can build triple a hits with smaller teams This is the funniest possible statement to come out after we covered. I think it was last week Or maybe the week before that patrick sodorland was like Yeah, the ai wasn't very good and it didn't really help all that much and we're replacing it because it's not good Like like the guy who made it was like, uh, it wasn't uh, uh And then his boss was like see see I told you I told you it's like well like so this for for For what it's worth like this is um coming off of a call uh that they did You know with investors and so on and and and and it's just weird that it's framed this way, but essentially they're getting at The idea that they used more ai in development here than initially Was let on and they used more procedural tools. They used more tools with content creation, etc, etc and Um Wanted to to show that now that it's successful and everything's working out that ha ha You can use it to make a successful game and then you can yeah nothing about that game success has anything to do with the tools that were used um and lots of bullet points here basically underlying the the thing that I think I was saying some time ago that You know you're going to you're there's going to be stuff that's going to drop Where you're going to start like you're going to like it and find out after the fact and it's going to continue to be the case And then there's going to be stuff after that where you just never find out Because we're we live in that world now, right? Yeah, and what's going to happen is that that's going to probably continue until Shit like have you been keeping up with did I talk about this last week the claude subprime? ai uh issue no So claude is anthropics ai right and it's apparently one of the smarter ones to do work on and last Monday morning, I think was last monday um at like 9 30 a.m um twitter and blue sky got flooded with all these professionals going Hey, what the fuck? I'm on the 200 dollar subscription plan to claude ai and I've blown through my entire token allowance for the entire week How am I supposed to get any work done because they need to start charging? For ai use because it's very expensive these things are Like when you when you pull down from the server, it's expensive So what they did was instead of charging people more they took people on their like plans and then just massively decreased their allowances the value of the tokens and so people were going well I use this shit all day every day What do you mean? I'd have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars to do that Uh, what the fuck this isn't saving me any money at all. Oh, right Because it was never cost effective It also has a problem of let's say You use chat gbt for whatever and it actually can Throw down a fairly useful amount of work for you, right? The problem is is that you don't know if you're going to get that on the first try So what you've done is turn your work day into a fucking slot machine In every pull of the lever. Oh costs money Is this email going to be properly formatted? No, is this email going to be pro? Ah fuck is that I'm going to just write it myself I'm out of tokens. Well, I was about to say they made the most important step right off the bat Which is you've turned your cash into tokens You've already created your game currency and the value of that currency can change according to whatever the fucking market is doing The whole game industry that's using these ai tools is using them at like massively At loss leader prices onboarding prices because everyone's trying to become the ai that rules them all But when they start charging it, hey, guess what? You know, it's actually going to be cheaper Having a fucking staffed salaried professional just fucking do it What was the exact wording? um I think I saw a phrase um This week That it was something to the effect of um Creatives have had a monopoly on output And now It's in everyone's hands or something like something to that effect and it was like Like the fri- it was so insane because the idea was like people who sat and thought about things and then Did those things had a monopoly on the the ability to Convert their ideas into reality, but now those ideas are no longer being gatecapped By you know learning how to do the thing and doing it You know woolly You know what all this reminds me of I moved to british columbia in 2022 At the tail end of what I would call The pandemic bursts end of lockdown You know end of the mask era, etc And I introduced myself to my new neighbors as a Guy wearing a trog door or Fucking video game shirt And said oh, what do you do? Oh, I have a podcast And I saw my neighbors fucking face go Eh, and I went no no a real podcast. It's like my profession right and When you said creatives had a monopoly on output What happened during the podcast? well A bunch of very very bored white guys who thought they were more entertaining than they were Said you know what? I have the time I'm not gonna write to the great american novel because that seems hard. I'm gonna start a podcast. I bet I could do a really good podcast with me and Jimmy no interesting stories And they did so And there was a glut of the shittiest fucking garbage you've ever heard because everyone knows how to speak Speaking is a natural skill that you all have at a basic level Art writing etc is not but now we have the robot The robot can give you would be shit-ass podcaster The ability to make shit-ass art The tyranny of the skill is over. Oh wait, it's not no far from um Your neighbor's face was correct. Oh dude And they were right to feel that way Oh boy, um Well in any case the the while the ceo was talking um The nexon man said that um this this whole trojan horse setup thing that they're describing The uh, the process was experimented on and the outcome was two games arc raiders and the finals Both of those games were built with significantly fewer people at a fraction of the cost you'd expect for triple a And our success was not an accident. It was deliberate and now we're bringing that we're thinking of bringing that to the rest of nexon so Um, yeah, it was all financial presentation and the whole point of it was essentially to just go ha ha We tricked everybody and and and we used more ai than than anyone thought and look how good it was So you are right. Please give us more money. Give us gives gives gives before the bubble pops. Yeah, this is nonsense Patrick Sorterland used to be the ceo of fucking dice The the guy used to work on fucking battlefield like Uh, the person giving like the team that they have over there knows how to fucking make video games The ceo in question here was junghoon lee is who was who was uh doing this so Anyway, uh good stuff good stuff. Um And and you know complimentary to this lastly Uh, lucas pope dude that made the over din and um papers, please Smart person. Yeah Basically saying I don't want to talk about my new projects online anymore because I feel like they're gonna get slurped up by ai Before they actually come out Sure. I've just got a feeling about that Now blizzard is everywhere It's the goddamn fortnite slash blizzard system Yeah, those of you who are unaware One of the reasons one of the keys to war the warcraft success is that they had such a good dev pipeline And they had so much staff and so much money that they would see features announced for other mmo's and be able to integrate them into Wow before those games even came out but but to be fair fortnite replaced that In modern memory and that's hence the apex stealth launch, you know Um, which they still managed to throw in a ping system and everything after the fact Within two weeks. I want to say yeah over din man. You're a smart guy. You make smart guy games You keep that close to the chest Um It is I I am realizing that with our current industry release cycle We will start to see things that are well I mean this already happens where like someone will a trailer will be announced or something and then A fucking asset flip ass piece of shit will throw get thrown up on on steam For whatever can cash in on that idea, right? Or you might just get your skull girls deadly airport Style skull girls too deadly airport style release on the app store, but there's going to be games where a trailer comes out and As the trailer is wrapping up People are throwing prompts in to get some shit uploaded online and um If it's a if it's a higher profile game or something of note from somebody who's got a lot of eyeballs on it There's going to be a real problem with how much information is put out about something interesting before it comes out because the It's more hostile than ever With with the slop Going up on on on steam Uh, you know ripoffs used to be so charming. You can finally try playing the great genius go jumbo Everyone knows go jumbo genius. Yeah like fucking You know the AI is not going to come up with deadly airport You know that shit needs to come from the heart man It needs to come from someone who doesn't understand what the fuck they're looking at But approximating what they think people who like this game might want to see It sucks What was robbed from us that they were robbing from other people Uh, let's take some letters Hey, if you want to send in a letter send it to castle super beast mail at gmail.com. That's castle super beast mail at gmail.com Oh, you know what I have a letter Something I forgot to talk about Uh, I did um starting my my practical driving Uh lessons I uh, I really only have one thing to say Everyone's crazy Everyone on the road has completely lost their fucking mind I can't believe it I can't fucking believe it. I can't fucking believe how bad it is This is welcome to driving sir. Yeah, no, it's like it's so much it's so much worse than even my passive like view has seen Like in my I'm in the I'm in a marked Driving instructor car, you know like the logo of a driving school on it Got caught off like a dozen times Had a guy Destroy his car backing up into a fucking telephone pole directly in front of me Everyone's crazy Everyone's crazy. Well. Yes, because it's an extension of your ego On wheels surrounding you you are crashing into other people's stance It's unbelievable it is the manifestation of their views on life and their self-importance and what they feel they're owed Uh on the road with you moving at lethal speeds correct How badly do you need those groceries, bro? I need them I need to eat food Um All right, let's take one over here from Uh All right, no name given dear wimmy and pimmie Last podcast you talked about capcom patching the story for alex and it reminded me of another instance of a story getting patched In river city girls you play as kiyoko and misako trying to rescue their boyfriends ricky and kunio who were kidnapped Uh, I guess spoilers for river city girls There's a secret boss where it's revealed that ricky and kunio aren't even your boyfriends anymore And that kiyoko and misako are delusional stalker x's This is later reinforced when you meet ricky and kunio who weren't even kidnapped. They were just having a spa day And they try to get away calling you those crazy girls before they go in search of mami and hasebe Their current girlfriends and the secret boss of the game This ending although funny Felt like I played the whole game along with the secret boss and got nothing to show for it So either due to public outrage or sequel purposes This was later patched in the patched ending everything plays out the same But when you meet ricky and kunio, they don't try to run away They're just hungry and ask if you want to join them for burgers with a final shot implying that they get back together Yeah, it's a way it's a way shittier in uh My question is if you could patch any other game story, what would it be and what would you patch it to that? sucks Street fighter 6 did not have ingrid in it. Um if I may but who cares Fuck the question for a second here. That sucks. That's garbage. I hate it. It's really bad It's a bad it's a bad change the level of cowardice on display has never been higher I I am aghast at the level of bitch in this game's heart. This is that is ridiculously shitty Wow, it's awful. Wow that sucks You're too afraid to commit to them being the fucking nutty stalkers. So this is oh my god lame, dude Oh Wait a fuck. Oh my god. Wait, that's the ending they carry forward into the sequel apparently So it's just shit all around. That's so stupid, man Ah Anyway um Yeah, I don't know. I guess the one that already happened where they made it so that uh dmc2 was not the end of the timeline And that was a good one. They just fucking changed the order from 3142 You know and then just fucking to 31245 You know, it's funny because when I think about like changing story elements in games Like I usually just think of removing entire games from canon and like I don't think about like I wish so and so would have done this I just go I wish this entire sequence of events just didn't occur at all sure um I mean, it's even easier because for that game you can just take dante's disc away And leave the lucia one And then just say that happened Yeah, that happened to lucia. Yeah. Yeah, you can just you don't even have to destroy the game. You can just take away one disc um And we'll take one over here D Hello marriage fighting racism and marriage fighting heidism Uh, the alex drama reminded me of the most questionable writing and gameplay mechanics I've encountered in a major game series To capitalize on fire emblem awakening success by including marriage plus child mechanics Nintendo my god, I've seen a lot of okay, so to be side note I've seen a lot of people make reference to fire emblem crazy shit in the middle of this alex nonsense And I didn't look at any of it So I have to assume that like this is what that's about Because I have I've wondered because people have been talking a bunch about it. So uh, nintendo's fire emblem fates doubles down on the marriage dating Symbiochetics while also including the thinly veiled self insert oc content of the developers fetishes For example, some of the strongest child units are created by marrying the player's avatar with either their step siblings blood related siblings There that are revealed to not be blood later when the player commits to marriage Oh Yeah, but you thought there were blood right up. It's oh shrodingers shrodinger sibling And or the other royalty unit that is revealed Months later in the dlc to be first cousins with the player's character Now retroactively turning tons of players clear saves into the most inbred the strongest units, man Besides this there's also a large exposed feet of the main character and pills being slipped into the people's foods The groomer dimension and exploding clothes to do more damage Has the game ever tricked you into doing morally questionable actions? You really you really skipped over the phrase groomer dimension What is that? I I you know, I mean when we're talking So far it sounds like the game changes the results according to your choices So to me, I'm going to guess that you choose the one that is the The most heinous sounding and then the game automatically Changes the result to then make it so that it's safe on the other side of your choice Even though it knows what you want it to go for right It's like no in the end what you did was okay and or what it was you weren't blood related But you you I know we know you want it. We know what you were should want it, but it was fine Because video games can do that Yeah, I'm guessing that with each heinous choice You just have the fucking story just snap into place on the other side um Yes, uh questionable actions that make you feel like the devs should be investigated I mean wow at fire emblem on that one. I didn't I didn't know um Whatever anime or manga that original Okay, there was a meme image of alex's face Stapled onto a guy holding a baby going stay away from yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah, whatever that's from Fucking check that dude's hard drive. Sure. Sure. Yep. That's a freebie. That's seven. Oh, that's why It's seven deadly sins. That's why every time there's a seven deadly sins trailer during like some kind of show Everyone goes. Oh, it's that pedo game. Oh Yeah, okay um There the one I saw was the timeline of or the the um Um The family tree and then like it's like one dude across multiple games Connecting to every single dot on this family tree Uh, whatever series or franchise that is I have no idea but that was also brought up during during fucking alex gate The fucking family tree isn't supposed to look like a mangrove system, man. Okay, that's I mean it's just yeah We like take a screenshot out of a mugenics timeline Just put street fighter characters on it Uh, anyway Um, yeah fucking fire emblem. I I didn't realize that's how it worked. That's crazy That's it's wild But but there's something again the moxie to make it so that you you you choose once you once you confirm Marrying your sister or whatever she then turns out to not be related by blood Oh, shit. Yep. Schrodinger's incest straight up If you never if you never put a ring on it she stays blood related That That's wrong Because that implies that as long you can do whatever with your blood relations as long as it's not before god Don't don't do that Don't make an honest woman out of your sister No, uh, don't or do don't say that because then Reality will correct itself And your sins will be remembered by everyone who knows what you've done actually Oh man fire emblem, huh? Well, here's the thing about fire emblems going on in those games y'all And it was like, hey, do you want to make a bunch of eugenic child warriors? It was like already like oh It's not good Like the idea the idea of like knocking up your girlfriend and then like Chris Pratt the forever war time traveling your baby from the future to die on the field is morose Fucking three houses more like fire emblem one house You You You