Stop Taking Peptides Until You Watch This. (Dr. Ivan Rusilko)

Ivan, you could have HIV or EBV. Give me HIV. Really? What? It was a shame they took it off the market and they've made it completely illegal. It's called cerebral iacin. The closest thing to a magic bullet I've seen in this industry, I would say, is actual ketamine therapy. I asked him, what are the three things you want to change? He said, I want to sleep better. I want a better mood and affect. And the third thing was, it wasn't even shaking. He wanted to have sex with his wife again. If you're just getting healthy to get healthy, that's masturbation. You know what I mean? Like, I want to climb Kilimanjaro. I want to enter a bodybuilding competition. I want to box. I want to walk. Okay, they get married again or whatever it is, they end up in healthy relationships. And women were like, I just can't find love. If you can't find love, do you respect and value yourself? My entire speech was as a healthcare practitioner, whether you're a nurse, whether you're a doctor, whether you're a paramedic, or whether you're somebody who cleans the room in the hospital, you need to portray yourself as... Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Biohack It. My guest today is extremely special to me on a professional level, on a personal level. He's a very dear friend of mine. And it goes beyond that. When I think of biohacking and entering the space, this man had a really big part about how I got into the space. I always say there are two men who inspired me. One man's books, who's Dave Asprey, and one man who took my labs, took a girl who was extremely sick, taught her a lot about her body, and started helping her heal. And that man was Dr. Ivan Rusilko. So I'm so glad we're finally doing this. Oh my goodness. It only took you 18 months to get on my show. 18 months, hey, man. I got to say, I've watched from the sidelines and it's been an absolute delight to see how you've taken us to such an extreme level. It's been beautiful. So kudos. I am so grateful for our friendship because I still remember I got introduced to it by a common friend and I came into you and I said, Ivan, I have, you know, I'm getting hormonal acne on my face. I had no energy. I had migraines. My body was upside down. And you were the first time I met a medical doctor who sat me down and said, we can fix this. You don't need to be on medication. You're estrogen dominant. We can do X, Y, and Z. It was so refreshing to me because I can only imagine so many people go through what I go through all the time when they come to you. Yeah, it's scary in a way. You know, I think it doesn't matter if you're a celebrity, if you're affluent, if you're an influence or whatever it could be, to see the amount of people who have the exact same issues. and I don't care if you're 90 years old or 15 years old, which are basically my demographic of patients, your body is basically a machine. Plumbing, electricity, hard wiring. So to figure out, it's such a basic formula but so advanced and especially with your situation when you came in, it's just finding that diagnostic puzzle piece and actually being able to put it together and actually treat the person, not just the lab. Right. And then you were one of the first people, especially here, who became a really credited, trustable source for peptides. You've been doing them for like, you know? It's been a minute, yeah. It's been a minute. And what I love is Veronica, who by the way, guys, if you ever go to Ivan's clinic, she's patient zero. Patient zero. This woman looks better than most 30-year-olds I've ever met. She's the most beautiful, radiant woman. But you transformed her life. So tell me, when you met Veronica first, and we have to pick up pictures of Veronica and put them on the screen. Oh yeah, she'll love that. We have to, because she's so incredible. how did you stop her from not stop her from aging but essentially slow down her mitochondrial function like cleaned her up took out the inflammation like how how did you do that you kind of listen to her and again you know you come in i think the most important things when it comes any type of medicine i don't care what peptide hormone treatment whatever it could be most important parts are lifestyle aspects hydration food stress reduction and sleep um all of which are free well not free but i mean that's something the actual patient should be able to do um on their own and when somebody like veronica came in she had all the tools in the world She just didn't understand that if she wants to look a certain way, you have to eat a certain way. You have to sleep a certain way. You have to drink water a certain way. And showing her that, you know, not reducing calories wasn't the correct way to go about it. She actually had to increase it. She was eating more than her husband at the time. So with her, you know, she had a mission. You know what I mean? Like she wanted to get better, which is probably the hardest thing to find these days and age. Everybody thinks, I'm going to go to peptide. It's a magic bullet. It's not. You know what I mean? And that's where I think, you know, we're going to get into that in a minute here. But with her, you know, she was determined. and she actually had the ability to kind of sit there and say, let's take this my own way. And I just kind of fertilized it here and there. And I mean, she just turned 60 yesterday. I mean, she looks phenomenal. She's timeless. She looks better than 30-year-olds in Barry's boot camp and is better than them at everything. It's crazy. And has more energy than most of them. So I want to get straight into a couple of different things. One, you talked about stress. How do most people, because most of us are chronically stressed, we're inflamed, shit's happening, life's happening, personal life, professional life, whatever. What are your three top tips to help people reduce stress or habits or peptides or whatever it may be? You have to identify it. And that could be one of the hardest things you have to do, whether it's a family member, a lover, a pet, a business situation. That's the hardest thing that we do. And I've become like, I guess you could say like that medical shaman, if you will, to sit there and say, listen, that person, they're toxic. And if you want to sit there, if you're sleeping with the enemy, if you're taking care of the enemy, if you're in love with the enemy, you're going to be stressed your entire life. And stress will automatically then turn into biological stress. then there's the actual diagnosis of it and I think you know every physician needs to be a diagnostic specialist if you're not testing labs and I'm not just talking about the basic stuff I'm talking about in-depth things like hidden pathogens heavy metals nutrition aspects all these different things going to make up what is causing biological stress so you have the emotional stress you have the biological stress and then there's the mental stress the things you get from worrying about how many likes you have how many followers you have why am I not the most popular why doesn't nobody comment on this just nonsensical bullshit you know I mean like and you sit there and package the mental, the physical, and the emotional aspects of what stress is, identify it, and then make that step forward. Either it's going on a program, whether it's saying goodbye to people in a very needed way, I guess you could say, or if it's just sitting there and say, listen, I'm going to get outside of my box. For me, every three months, I werewolf. I take a trip. I go swimming with orcas. I go hang out with gorillas in Uganda, whatever it could be, but I need that. That's my stress reduction. I look forward to it for three months, and then after I'm done with it, I start looking forward to the next one. That's how I deal with my insanely stressful life. But I enjoy it. So figure out how to deal with your stress, but in a fun, manageable way. Make friends with your demons. You know what I mean? Like, they can be pretty fun people sometimes. What do you think looking back at your life has been one of the most pivotal moments that ever, like, completely, you know, changed you forever? Oh, I have like 80 of them. We're talking about love. We're talking about business. We're talking about that. Like, there was a moment that you were like, you maybe hit rock bottom, or a light bulb went on, and you're like, I'm never going to be the same ever again. It was unique. I was 12 years old, And again, crazy, right, to remember this. But when you have a core memory, it's unique. And I was blessed. I had one of the most amazing families in the world. And I was out deer hunting with my father. I come from Pennsylvania, a very small place in this world. We're hunting. If you don't hunt, you don't eat during the winter. And my father was a very unique person. He grew up in a coal mine, used an outhouse until he was 18, first person on his street, which was also his town, to go to actual college and actually become, he was a chiropractor. And so he was one of those persons who kept rising and rising and rising. and then he had my brother and kind of stalled out. He could have kept going. And it was funny because I think he always harbored that with him. Like, I could have kept going, but, you know, he switched that for the family aspect. And we were out hunting, and, like, he was sitting there. And, of course, you know, when you're hunting and you're 12 years old, you want to stay there and hang out with your friends on a Saturday morning. Exactly. And not get at 5 in the morning, truck through freezing cold weather, and sit there and wait for a deer. But we're sitting there, and he just kind of looked at me and goes, I'm going to teach you one thing in life. And it was funny. He said one thing, but it was obviously two. He said, first rule is never be the smartest person at the table. Always be the stupidest person. Surround yourself with people who are smart. Never be the fastest, never be this. Always be the most interesting person. That's what makes people remember you. But the biggest thing he said was, the most important thing in life is always leaving it better than when you found it. I don't care if it's a lover, if it's a friend, if it's a business situation, if it's the environment. Just leave it better. Because we are nothing but energy. And the energy we influence in everybody else. And again, I'm not one of these beating drum hippies like energy in this. I'm a hardcore medical physician. And I think what energy is is something that we can't deny. And I think that's a situation where you see medicine now. You see things like energy healing and electromagnetism and all this stuff, and it gets this kind of like, meh, you know, we'll come back. We'll focus on peptides. But that's crazy, right? Yeah, exactly. How you leave the people around you. There's something called neural resonance, which is amazing. The energy that both mean, and this is why I think me and you get along, you know, you have that energy, and energy amplifies. Like if you have a C fork or a tuning fork that's a C and you put it next to it, they harmonize to each other. So if you're surrounding yourself with chaos, then you're going to turn into chaos. But if you can sit there and create that much good energy in your system and leave it better, people will resonate up to you. And it was just one of those funny things, like for as simple as he was, those are two things that I've used my entire life. And it's the whole reason I'm sitting here. I mean, like we both have fascinating lives, I like to think. You know what I mean? If it wasn't for those two pieces of information, I'd probably be like an ER physician in Pennsylvania, you know, 40 pounds overweight, you know, smoking cigarettes or something ridiculous. Exactly. Because sometimes traditional medical doctors are actually the most unhealthy humans on the planet. Oh my God, yes. That's the biggest one. I do a lot of public speaking. My medical school always hires me a lot. And they had brought me back to one, and it was basically their health summons. All of the people in the actual thing were actual people who worked for them. And my entire speech was, as a healthcare practitioner, whether you're a nurse, whether you're a doctor, whether you're a paramedic, or whether you're somebody who cleans the room in the hospital, you need to portray yourself as the hero. I mean, my life is extravagant, as you can see. I mean, you don't even know I'm a position if you look at my Instagram, but that aspect is experiential living. And you know, I don't talk about peptides a lot. There's a thousand people doing that. There's not a thousand people living. Exactly. And I show what peptides do. I show what hormones do. I show what that aspect is. And I think every practitioner who's going to promote this, if you don't look the part, keep your mouth shut until you do. That's what I can't stand about it. You got to walk the walk to talk the talk. Exactly. Practice what you preach. You know what I mean? 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I mean, people who live life as a condition end up getting consumed by it. And the experience, no matter if it's a shitty moment, there's always something you're going to learn from it. And one of the things I always try to tell myself is there's no such thing as failure as long as there's education involved in it. In love, okay, fine, this didn't work out. What did I learn from it to make myself so I don't do it the next time? Exactly. In business, whoever it could be. So, like, I've never failed my entire life. I'm 41. And the fun part about that is I do have a lot of education, especially in the love department. Yeah. We know that, Edmund. But, no, it's true, you know. And finally you get to a certain point to where you think you've actually figured it out finally. And I think, you know, when it comes to medicine and love, I think I've got figured out finally on those two aspects. But it's gone through so much hell and fire to get there, you know? But it's worth every tear, every broken heart, every failed business opportunity. Because it made you who you are. Exactly. Experiential living. And so you also went, people might not know this, obviously we've been friends for so long, you went from being a bodybuilder in Mr. USA to getting into the medical field. Yeah. It was kind of funny. Actually, I was in at the same time. Go figure. I was offered to play professional hockey. It was funny. I was offered, I actually got accepted to medical school out of high school. I got accepted to play professional hockey within the same week of that. So I was like 16, being thrown these crazy things. I mean, worked my entire life, and my dad's like, you're going to medical school. Yeah, that's it. That's what you're gonna do. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your brother's also a doctor. He was, so we're both from Pennsylvania. We both, so to get accepted to medical school early, he was the first one for a specific college there and I was the first one for a different college So it was cool the first two people in the state to actually do it And I I was always chasing my entire life You know what I mean Like you know Paul got straight A I had to get straight A You know Paul was a captain of the hockey team I got to be the best at the hockey team you know a lot of kind of stuff. And it was funny, like my brother right now, if you ask ChachiBT, like he's the top physician in the world currently for penile cancer and buried penis, which he's a world renowned urologic reconstructive surgeon. Kind of a funny, you know, I was like a joke, you know, call him Captain Cock and all that kind of stuff, like, you know, good for you. You know, but it's cool to sit there and see that you're that that somebody in your family like i looked up to in my entire life and it's funny it's just nice just now getting into this wellness industry because now ever since um uh they they took the black box label off of uh female hormones all of these traditional institutions and upmc is a monster institution it's the largest medical um uh conglomerate in the united states right now they're they're netting like 50 billion you know what i mean yeah it's insane and now they're like let's look at wellness you know i mean like i've been sitting here for how long? I started in 2010 before anybody knew what a peptide was. I actually wrote the first protocol on IGF-1 LR3. So before peptides were a thing, we were writing protocols on it. And I was always like the awkward... The go-to, yeah. Yeah. Back in the day, I was the awkward guy who was just like, well, is he medicine? Is he snake oil? I don't know how many articles I have out there being like, is this guy hurting people or saving people? You know what I mean? Yeah, oh, I remember. And now you can't walk down the street. I was the first people to do IVs in all of Miami Beach, hyperbaric, NAD. We were doing NAD and methylene blue in 2012. Yeah, I remember. Few in there was, And now it's just like it's so commonplace, and traditional medicine is being forced to actually look at it now. The wellness industry is, what, $6.7 trillion, last time I checked? And they're looking by 2028, $8.6. The amount of growth in that, that's insane. You know what I mean? Like in this industry that used to be nonsense. You know what I mean? Absolutely. It's an exciting place to be alive right now. One of the things, and I want you to tell it in your voice, why pharmaceutical-grade peptides versus research quality are two very different things. because I want to educate people on how to purchase a peptide before we get into the whole peptide situation. So peptides are unique. So peptides are defined as something. So a peptide is a protein, basically. It's less than 50 amino acids put together through peptide bonds. A little biochem. So what happens is when it comes to actually creating the peptides, they're usually parts of something bigger. They get broken down. Yada, yada, yada. You have this unique little molecule right now that's basically a key. So you have your cells which have a specific thing called a G protein. That peptide comes, it kind of unlocks it, and then it goes to better hair, better skin, better nails, better sex, whatever the hell you want it to do. It's a very unique way it works. And the difference between medical grade and research grade, it's a lot closer than you think. Surprisingly. Oh, it is? Surprisingly. But the problem is when it comes to when it's not close, it's very bad. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why I always tell people, if something goes wrong with a research peptide, what are you going to do? Nothing. You aren't coming to me. I have patients who go out there and they'll buy everything from peptide science and all this other stuff. And they're like, how do I take this? I was like, go ask peptide science. I'm not going to get involved with that. I don't know what it is. I have the medical version. Every peptide in the sun I know how to do. You know what I mean? And it's a situation where I think consumers need to sit there and say, if you're going to skim, like you aren't going to go and skim on a cheap bottle of champagne. Why are you going to skim on your peptides? Yeah, exactly. And again, this is more of a blue-white-collar type scenario right now. It's going to eventually trickle down into the mainstream. but you know i was sitting there and say when it comes to safety you're not going to skimp on safety and that's what research versus you know actual medical grade peptides are and it's just such it's so diluted right now because there's not so much misinformation it's disinformation you know what i mean and people just get so muddled down and with like what's going on how do i take this right right if somebody's not telling you how to take it either you go get a medical degree and figure it out or you go find somebody who knows how to take it and trust them to give you the right the biggest thing and you're seeing every physician every their sisters their brothers are all of a a peptide specialist. I love the amount of influencers online right now with peptide specialists who have never seen a patient in their entire life. BPC is an amazing thing. It helps you heal with anything. If you have high mercury, if you have chronic EBV, CMV, it doesn't do shit. It's a situation where a lot of people are getting turned off by peptides because they're expecting, well, I saw so-and-so say this, and it's going to make my hair grow 18 inches in a day. And they're like, well, why didn't happen? As they're smoking a cigarette. It's just like, Well, it's what happens. I mean, you need to understand how to take a peptide. They are amazing things. I wouldn't have devoted literally my entire career to it. When it comes to peptides, I'm one of the first physicians in this country to actually do them. And to sit there and see how it's gone, I've been super excited up until about COVID. Second COVID hit, people figured out the magnitude of money that could be made in the wellness industry. And they just went after it. And what happened? Sharks came in. People who have never seen a patient in their entire life. Patients, people who are on doctors, people don't know. They know how to augment somebody. But then they're also promoted to people who have debilitating diseases. And all these people are sitting like, well, this is going to cure my depression. No, it's not. You know what I mean? You might have a hormonal this. You might have a toxic this, blah, blah, blah. So there's so much more intricacies when it comes to what peptides can do for you. If you're optimized, it is literally the safest, best thing in the world. If you want to live longer and heal naturally, you are going to love the Dr. Josh Axe show, hosted by my dear friend, Dr. Axe. Every week, he shares how to balance your hormones, restore your gut, boost your energy, and slow down aging without relying on harsh medications or quick fixes. He shares both ancient biblical practices and the latest breakthroughs in nutrition, herbal remedies, and lifestyle medicine. And he sits down with world-renowned experts to have a real unfiltered conversation you won't hear anywhere else. If you're ready to take control of your health, renew your energy, and transform your body, mind and spirit tune into the dr josh ak show every monday and thursday wherever you get your podcasts so i want to talk a little bit about personal scenario that happened this summer and you have always been such a gift to me so you know i was going through my separation stuff went to the therapist and the therapist you know sitting there with my ex-husband and he's like you are so sensitive right now you're going through a complete nervous breakdown i want you get on ssris and i said absolutely not i do not want to do it um i said that's not what i want to do he's He's like, yeah, but he's a wonderful therapist. But this is where medical professionals are limited. He's like, if you were my daughter, I want you to do it. I said, I'm absolutely not doing this. I know my body is in fight or flight. I'm going to call my functional practitioner. I'm going to get the right support that I need. And I called you. And I said, my blood work is out of whack. My body's not producing hormones. My testosterone's gone. Vitamin D is not getting absorbed. I'm not feeling well. And you said, give me four weeks, and we're going to turn this boat around. Right? And Ivan, I kid you not. It was literally four and a half weeks later because one week I missed one of the sessions with you. I got in my car and I sat there and said, I don't just feel like myself. I feel better than my original self. That's what it should be. And again, one of the mottos I have with myself, and again, we have a very unique breast cancer story that we're going to be debuting in an actual documentary coming up. And no matter what it is, I got depression to finally get healthy again. I got cancer to finally get healthy again. The second you have your health stripped away from you, separation. separation, now all of a sudden you know what depression is, you know what loss is. You don't have that, go, oh, I broke up with somebody, blah, blah, blah, whatever it could be. But now you have a serious issue like that, and you actually experience true depression, it's crippling. You know what I mean? But the answer is not SSRIs. Absolutely. You know what I mean? But thank God I was empowered enough, and I'm friends with people like you, and I have people I trust that I can go to that I had options, because SSRIs actually cause so much more damage on the human body and mind later down the line. They take out the minerals from your body. They leave you to feel deficient. They make you feel so much work. They give you gut issues. But I had that choice. Even in that moment, I felt shit. I said, I still think there's a better option. You opted out of the magic bullet. Again, there's no magic bullet. It's the closest thing to a magic bullet I've seen in this industry. And again, I try everything. As you know, I'm the first person to do it. I would say is actual ketamine therapy. Which is what you put me on. Exactly. And, you know, I was the first person doing South Florida. I mean, nobody was doing it. I remember. I opened plasticity. Everybody thought I was, like, dealing drugs. Yeah, exactly. But the problem with ketamine, just like with peptides, is that once it got mainstream, once you could order it online, was the downfall of ketamine. Correct. And the problem with that is ketamine is phenomenal. You should be on it in stints. If you're on it in perpetuity, it makes no sense. Of course. Because now you've traded one drug to another. The trochees of this, that. And by the way, it's highly addictive. So I also want to talk about when you are going to people, and getting access to this stuff, they need to check someone's nature. For sure. I, for example, have never been addicted to personality. I only ever came to you to the IVs, always in a safe, controlled environment. But I know of people in my personal life who get addicted to the nasals and the trochies and the this and that. I'm like, why are you dishing stuff out to people who already have this codependency on things? Because it's so profitable. That's the problem with it. And again, I think there's a lot of ways to make money in this industry. There's a lot of shit ways to do it too. and when you're just peddling things like ketamine just because again you're going to feel great on it it's going to make you feel great for that moment you know i mean great but the second that wears off and you haven't assimilated the feeling you've actually came to get so whenever i do ketamine or we always have goals there's a reason you're getting over something correct yeah lighting the tunnel you wake up you're like i felt i'm gonna be better you know i mean like not being like woe is me once that's gone okay fine it's done its job wait till the next time you might need it right okay not sit there and propagate it there are certain things when it comes to neurodegeneration, it's like Parkinson's and dementia and things like that. I use it more regularly for just because again, it's more of a neuroplasticity, brain derived neuro. We have a lot of unique other peptides we combine with it. Um, but you're also combining it with actual like, like hormonal labs, like low testosterone. And the best part is, you know, I'll have people come in who I went from being like the housewife doctor for fitness, sex, and abs. Now all of a sudden it's like end stage cancer, Parkinson's, you know, MS, you know, MSA, all this kind of stuff. and you'd be surprised. And ketamine is one of my actual go-tos. I'll put something on ketamine who's never done a drug in their entire life. Of course. Because I know the problem with it, exactly, the neuroplasticity potential of it. But then you find they're anemic and their testosterone is low. I'll put a 95-year-old woman on testosterone cream to increase her red blood cells, which is kind of a side effect you don't, you actually don't want from that. But in this, I need it. I need it to propagate that. They get better. What testosterone does for your brain is phenomenally amazing. And then you drop the ketamine with it. So ketamine is never really a monotherapy. You've never done ketamine by itself. with me. Nor have I ever prescribed ketamine just willy-nilly. Every now and then, if it's like one quick thing, you have to do it correctly. You know what I mean? And that's one of the biggest things you sit there and see. Just like with peptides, there's no one size fits all. And ketamine is a magic bullet if used at the correct target. If not, it's just creating more chaos in your brain. So there was an amazing patient. I think he's probably in his 70s, 80s now with Parkinson's that you documented. He was at the opening of the place. Yeah, Lee. Can we share with the audience Lee's story when Lee came to you and he couldn't even write and how he got his handwriting back and he got his marriage back. So I want to share that story. He's fascinating. And Lee came in, and again, so I have a very good friend of mine. He's a chiropractor. He's a doctor Kaplan in South Beach. And he had texted me. He said, listen, you ever see anybody with Parkinson's? I'm like, no, I can look it up real quick. You know what I mean? Because I mean, I'll take on anybody. You know what I mean? Like, if I can't do it, which I've never said I couldn't do it, because you could have figured it out. So Lee came in. Lee was 84 at the time. he came in and he had the parkinsonian shuffle you know very low affect means he didn't have a big mood and you know i sat down i was like what the hell am i gonna do here you know i mean like so what what did this start i asked him two questions and after the two questions he said about seven years ago what happened seven and a half years ago major family death you know his kids it was i'm not gonna get into what happened but he had his children had had something happen snapped him right into it, right into it. Six months later, Parkinson's. No, not his family at all. So this was a stress-induced event. Second question was, which I don't think a lot of physicians ask anymore, what makes it better or worse? That's the most important question a physician should ask. They never ask. You're low testosterone. Here's this, here's this, here's this. Well, what makes it better? Well, you know, I got ED. Well, are you with anybody? No. Then maybe you need to go find somebody new or something. You know what I mean? So you have to ask questions about what makes it better with him he said cold and stress makes it worse my only job is to do a diagnostic panel and find every stressor in his system and just take it out right that's all we did you know i mean he uh so the best part about his case he i and i asked him what are three things you want you want to change he said i want to sleep better was number one because when you parkinson's sleep is not not a fun thing um he said i want a better mood and affect so like you know i could give you a million dollars you're like that's great because you're on carbidopant leave it open all stuff it just blunts your blunts your your emotion and the third thing was wasn't even shaking like it wasn't the shaking he wanted to have sex with his wife again he wanted to be intimate with her and his wife is a legend honestly the most beautifully so in love they're fantastic and he sat there and again he she wasn't with him he said i need to give she's been such so caring for me for the last seven years and i haven't been able to physically be with her for for several years i'm just like makes sense pretty awesome i mean like that's cool so let's try it And whenever I have something I don't know, I don't charge. I don't make any money on it. I either do it at cost or I do it for free depending on the person. So I said, listen, I told him the thing. I said, I just want you to take this as serious as you can. Just pay the cost for what it is for some of the things, and then after that I'll take care of the rest. And we went through and we found some of the most basic things on his labs The only way to fix it I didn come up with anything new and unique There were a couple of peptides he used He was completely anemic completely anemic And he set the precedent. So I've done, we've reversed Parkinson's, MS, MSA, a burn patient like he couldn't breathe. And now we have a patient with a stage four breast cancer, which she did everything on her own, which was amazing. I just kind of put the IVs in there. But all of these things, you test the labs and you figure out what's the basic stuff. So Lee's anemia was coupled by his testosterone deficiency. He was adrenaline fatigue, so his DHA was bottomed out. B12 deficiency. He had a heavy metal, mercury, which may or may not have caused the Parkinson's, also helped with it. And there were several other things, chronic EBV, which I think, I'll be honest right now, and this is a soundbite for you. If I had the option after doing all of the research I've done now with this thing, EBV, mono, you know what mono is, if you had the option on the table right now and say, Ivan, you could have HIV or EBV. Give me HIV. Really? what? Dude, what chronic EBV does to you? CMV is worse. I have not tested one person in the United States since I've started testing EBV who wasn't positive for it and had large antibodies. I mean, your body is consistently fighting it. It's a consistent drain. CMV, which is 10 times worse, CMV will take half of your immune system. You're starting to talk to T-cells and make them look at it for the rest of your life. So it just consistently drains you. So now you're seeing all these people come in, chronic fatigue, neurofibromyalgia, all these different things. Why am I getting sick all the time? You test them. Oh, it could be this. It could be COVID. They have EBV levels off of the charts. Where are they getting it from? You get EBV mono. Everybody gets it when you're a kid, the kissing disease. And you know the funny thing is the only people I have not found mono in are females from the Middle East. Yeah, because we are told. Because they aren't promiscuous or going out anywhere. You know what I mean? Like it's one thing, you know? Yeah. It's unique. I don't think I've been tested positive with mono. What's that? I don't think I've been tested positive with mono. Again, that's a huge thing because what it does to you is insane. Yeah. So when you find that and you understand that Lee's battling all these things plus this chronic virus that nobody pays. Oh, everybody has it. You're like, so? I mean, let's figure it out. You know what I mean? Let's make it okay. So with him, I went over everything. We fixed it. I'm giving him just, I put him on a program like he was going to be turned into like a bodybuilder. Bodybuilder, yeah. Three weeks, his sleep was completely corrected. Phenomenal. I have a blend that I've used. CJC, Ipermorland, Cermorland, Cialis, and Oxytocin. I use it both in men and women. it's kind of unique sleep is my favorite thing to treat um and everybody thinks sleep is turn on turn off sleep is more more and more how i have the right word it's more complex than anything else we do and people just oh just i got eight hours bullshit you need the correct cycles you need the correct timing and what are the correct cycles then so you so you have alpha sleep which is where you're falling asleep and this is where oxytocin comes in so this is unique oxytocin is my literally my favorite favorite hormone yeah um oxytocin helps you fall asleep it's more of a relaxer Like after you orgasm, you're like, oh, that's kind of that, that, that actually, that actual little clip. Then you, you go from alpha, then you go to light sleep and you start to get into Delta sleep. So Delta is, is, is loaded in the first half of the actual night. So if you have eight hours, the first four hours is Delta specific. Second four hours is more REM, which is where, so Delta, you, you actually repair your body. Um, uh, REM, you actually repair your mind. So you start, your body's more focused on repairing itself first and then it repairs the mind with the REM. Um, so once you get into that, then it cycles in and out and it's cool how your brain works in wavelengths. So your brain goes from, you know, beta to alpha to theta to delta. And as you are in, it almost goes back into beta, like almost you're awake. It's very unique how it works. So the troche and the cool thing about the Cialis that I put in there is that Cialis helps with blood flow, peripheral everywhere, in some areas more than others. But it also helps with decreasing people who need to urinate throughout the night, which is kind of the biggest thing. So it keeps you in delta more often. So instead of Lee getting up three times to pee, he got up once. Yeah. And that is like winning the lottery. right there because he gets two extra cycles of delta sleep in before he has to get up and pee. Because when you get out, then he's up, he's all frazzled, all that kind of stuff. Then the CJC, Ipermorlin, and the Cermorlin work to help the pituitary gland produce more growth hormone throughout the night. It's a massive amount, I think like 97% of your growth hormone comes at that point. And with what happens is the growth hormone helps tremendously with not only the brain neuroplasticity, but also his strength. Because now you think he's not actually, he's doing the small shuffles. So that's what kind of got his sleep normalized. It was fascinating how it worked second was his affect so we started to bring down his carbidopa levodopa we did this we used um thymocene alpha and beta which were fantastic i was working on his immune system for the ebv thymocene beta is for healing regeneration uh we used dihexa which is fascinating dihexa using uh post-stroke it helps with um angiogenesis and things like that to help in the mind i use it personally just for i want to eventually move things with my mind so then we had an amazing one and it was a shame they took it off the market and they've made it completely illegal it's called cerebrolyacin nobody knows about yeah can we talk about this one cerebrolyacin it is probably my second favorite peptide okay all right it's actually made from pig brain it's kind of unique um but the way it works is it creates um something called like brain derived neuro factor that's like miracle growth for your brain so your brain will grow and it'll go back or grow so if you're learning piano it grows and it slowly recesses because it's kind of it's almost like a defense mechanism cerebral license goes and the key is is trying to make it stick. So what we were doing is we were giving the cerebral lyoacin shots and the IVs and then we'd do the actual dihexas so the blood flow got better with it. Then we'd be given the nutrition, the testosterone. So when his brain would grow, it would grow back and back. It was fascinating how it worked. His affect, week three and a half was back. It was during the election in 2020. It was hilarious. He was out there at all parties and stuff like that. His wife came and was like, Lee was dancing last night. I'm like, that's not really. It was fascinating. Then the third thing was sex. And I remember, We had Richard Simmons, God rest his soul, was getting an IV at the old clinic I used to have on the water. And we're in there. And all of a sudden, my assistant was like, Lee wants to talk to you outside. And by this time, Lee had been went from getting dropped off. Lee lives about half a mile from the office to walking to the office on his own. No walker. Fascinating. Within four or five. This is week five. So he comes in. And he's out. He's got his penny loafers on now. His hair's slicked back. He's like walking like a man again. And he was just like, he just looked at me. And I walked outside. I was like, Lee, it's got to be quick. You know, we're full up here, you know. He goes, I had sex last night. I'm like, yeah. He goes, penetration and I orgasm. I'm like. That's amazing. I nearly cried. I swear to be because. Yeah, because for that man, it was such a big deal. Oh, it was such a huge deal. It's like climbing Mount Everest, you know what I mean? Like, and somebody, he was 84 at the time, to sit there and have such a big focus. It wasn't for him, you know what I mean? Like, it was for that connection. For his partner with his wife. Oh, it was fascinating, you know. And it was cool because I sat there and said, okay, Lee, you got your three things in six weeks. My turn. I want the shaking. All right? So we switched up. We brought in methylene blue. And again, nobody knew what methylene blue was when this was going on. Methylene blue, people are looking like a blue IV. Yeah, what's going on here? What's going on here? I remember when you started those. Oh, it's fascinating the way it works. And again, there's a whole bunch of biochem into it. But my biggest thing was getting more oxygen to the brain. That's one of the biggest things methylene blue can do in a specific way associated with iron. And it was really cool because we started doing this and I had gone out in this iguana hunt. I still am a hillbilly even though I live in Miami Beach. And I'm covered head to toe from cleaning these iguanas out from the Everglades. And I get a text from him. And it was, if you haven't started, again, I'm going to botch it, but if you haven't started celebrating your weekend yet, here's another reason to celebrate. And it was a video of him holding a wine glass without a straw and drinking it. It was fascinating. I mean, you get like, I was like, what? You're in the medical field to heal people and give them their lives back. And see that. You see that little thing. got his life back. Leave it better than when he found it. With Parkinson's, something that some people just write off. My uncle has it. He didn't go down the functional route. My uncle's lost his ability to really live a full life. But because my family is so indoctrinated with the traditional medical system, they won't step out to try something different. It's hard, isn't it? It's hard to get past that whole wall. You know what I mean? And the cool thing about Lee was, you know, we had a specific thing. If you're going to get healthy, you need a goal. I mean, you can't come in. I need to hear a goal from him. Yeah, what do you want? Yeah. if you're just getting healthy to get healthy that's masturbation there's no who cares you know i mean like i want to climb kilimanjaro i want to enter a bodybuilding competition i want to box i want to i want to walk you know i mean something like that a bigger purpose for you and it was cool with him and i he kept asking me what can i do for you because i was just like no don't worry about it's fine don't worry about it don't worry about it don't worry about it and finally i was like are you afraid of heights yeah he goes i'm terrified and i was like you got something you can do for me yeah so what i did was i brought a camera crew down because i was going to say if i'm to sit there and do this in one way, you have to share your story. Of course, 100%. It's quid pro call. It's a fun quid pro call. I brought a film crew down. We took him out paragliding. He was 85 at the time. His birthday was two days prior. We picked him up in a sprinter van. You cured him for Parkinson's? What if the guy got a heart attack? The funny thing is we actually got there and on the way up there, he's shaking. I'm like, what's going on here? No, and he gets up there and I give him a shirt. I have a company called Ball Steve living like the adventure thing and he's wearing it he goes guys i'm not shaking because of the parkinson's i am so nervous what if the poor guy had a heart attack up there we filmed him the entire time and this guy spit scripture the entire time he went he's like i'm not going to be a victim if i can tell anybody about this i mean it was oh my god again like it's one of the stories that i mean if i had billions of dollars i had to put it out everywhere you know i mean just because it shows that no matter what you're going through i don't care who mind over matter mind over matter And again, if you want to get better, manifestation. And again, all these words have been demonized by the wrong people. But manifestation is legit. You know what I mean? And he did it. He spits scripture. And he's still good today. He came to our opening. He comes to everything. He's 89, 88 or 89 right now. His wife's still, I mean, they're still having a great time. But yeah, there's a lot of those fun stories that I think, you know, that those are the kind of people that I think. That's why you do what you do. Exactly. Those are the real influences. You know what I mean? Those are people I want to hear from. There's an amazing story about this breast cancer person. Yes. I want to discuss that as well. No, again, stage four breast cancer. I mean, breast cancer is, I mean, minus the other cancers when it comes to female specific. It's the number one killer of women. Every two minutes. So we've been doing this for 34 minutes right now. 17 women have been diagnosed with breast cancer since we've started. It's insane, right? Two women have died since then. Higher and higher every single year. Crazy. And again, there's a lot of reasons to get into that rabbit hole down that in a minute. but it was unique because this woman was diagnosed in 2022, begrudgingly she went through the actual traditional route, found out after everything that she went through came back at stage 4. And she didn't even know it. After all that. She's winning something called a signetara test where you kind of measure the floating cancer genomes in your actual blood. And she wasn't expecting. She was like, oh, it's gone, you know. And you're like, no, it's not. Stage 4. So she found herself, again, I'm so happy. she did it it's uh an integrative uh oncologist which is great and this woman did exactly it was perfect tested her blood found was what needed to be changed and everything um so they started this whole path then they got the pet scan back pet scan came back with metastasis to her her um her hip her spine her lung lymph nodes and more of her breast terrible prognosis stage four like watch out yeah um so then they they they uh she she found us and you know she looked us up saw what we had done before. And one of the biggest things I brought into my practice was polyphenol IVs back in 2020. Okay. So this was five years ago. They're probably my favorite IVs now, you know, minus like certain ones, you know, again, we think cancer. And why is that? Because they're so naturalistic, but you put them in such unique concentration and the way they attack specific things, especially inflammation and inflammation is the biggest thing in cancer, I believe. The way they attack it is if you're going to do a type of chemotherapy drug, they go after every cell that's dividing and blow them up. When you kill something, that's half the battle. Then you you have to clear it. So you gotta think, all these people going through chemotherapy are killing cells and they're not cleaning them out. You know what I mean? Like you're just creating more shit, you know? Yeah, senescent cells. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, senescent cells is a big one. So these things, I call it the hat trick of the polyphenols for cancer. It's quercetin, resveratrol, and curcumin. Fascinating the way they work because they'll sit there and they'll take cancer. Cancer has very unique properties. They open something called a glut one, which pulls in so much sugar and that's how you actually diagnose it. You take basically sugar water, put a radioisotope on it, inject it and if you say you light up it's because you take a picture and that cancer is just eating all that sugar it's so greedy so what it does is like these these various types of polyphenols use that that attribute of cancer and like flip it on its side it's like a trojan horse so they go in you know like something like kirkman go in it gets pulled in because of all this influx into the cell messes with something called the nf beta kappa i mean all those kind of unique things and it basically stops the actual cancer cell from working the inside but it doesn't blow it up it doesn't create all this chaos with it same thing with quercetin quercetin gets all these senescent cells. I would say, and again, I like to think about three years ahead of everything in wellness medicine, it's going to be sleep therapy and senescent cells will be the next NAD and peptides in 26, 27. And the senescent cell clearance is one of the most fascinating things that quercetin does. And then resveratrol is cool. It kind of takes the shield of cancer down so the cancer can really break free and go anywhere else So you add these three together and it creates such a unique way to attack cancer doesn hurt the patient doesn attack the because healthy because healthy cells have different defense mechanisms that actually prevent it So you focusing just on the cancer cell It fascinating the way it works She was able, so her, her, her sign of terror test was at 39, which is massive. Okay. She had a Kappa score. Her Kappa 67 score was 70, meaning that 70% of her cancer cells were dividing. 20 is big. You know what I mean? 20 is big. She was her, she was positive for estrogen and progesterone, meaning the cancer fed off of her own estrogen and progesterone. So you can't give her any type of hormones because her hormones make it worse. So all these things she had going on, and we were like, she had started, she'd done all the heavy lifting. So I mean, like, all I did was put the IV aspect into the back end of it. Her lifestyle, the way she changed, you went to a ketogenic diet, which is the most important thing. Normally, traditional medicine is, oh, just start, go vegetarian or vegan, which I think are the two most dangerous diets out there, but it's a whole other thing. And then she did all these lifestyle things. And we came in and dropped these other IVs in, within 30 days documented, her sign of terror test dropped to one. 96% drop. 96.5. 96.5% drop. You can put it through any AI. They expect 85% at three months on traditional. And that's with hurting yourself, losing your hair. She got healthier. I mean, she lost water weight. She looked phenomenal. And it was the coolest, coolest story to go with it. Then she waited two more months because you have to wait a specific amount of time between the PET scan. PET scan, and again, I was on Halloween. I was in Norway swimming with orcas. It was awesome. And I'd sat down to my dinner like literally we just on the polar plunge me and my sister and i get a text from her it's just like i forget how she phrased it because i was just so like ecstatic it was like um no evidence of disease you can't say cured you know i mean that's that's a medical buzzword don't say cured but no like they did a pet scan didn't find a goddamn thing on there it was fascinating stage four and again the biggest thing was this the actual drop from 40 to one i mean like and just the only thing that changed was the actual the the iv aspect and the ketogenic diet yeah and her lifestyle she was doing a lot of like cool like sound healing she did uh a still asylum journey which again get the emotional aspect out of it so so the cool thing about that is and again like we actually shot a whole documentary we're in the middle of editing it right now and she the same thing she wanted to share a story don't don't be a victim the second you're a victim you deserve to be a victim and i know that sounds terrible but it does we're human beings we have the most complex machine in our head that you can't duplicate get over it you know figure it out. I think we all wake up every single day and have the choice to either be a participant or an observer in your life. You're right. And you decide how you show up and you live your life. And the things that happen to you are a gift. They're helping you get better, stronger, write your story. But it's all about taking yourself out of this victim mentality and being like, I'm here to create. The best chapters of my life are not even written yet. And I can only do that by really participating in every single part of it, actively, eyes wide open in joy in presence and gratitude and you and i obviously are both like really religious and spiritual that we believe in the higher source we believe in a god we believe in a creator and that experiences are just adding to that no it's true and again like it's funny so i did this whole thing i just turned 41 i'm getting this whole like new thing i started my biography it's uh gonna be you know me me before 40 ain't gonna believe this shit yeah uh it's very unique and it was funny i can't on the on the way to norway i i got i got i got to think i grew up catholic like super catholic you know i mean and you know you gotta go to church i was an altar boy at a latin mass i could recite the latin mass when i was like 13 you know what i mean like and i sat there and said you know if you're an atheist or if you're a die-hard christian i mean like it's or catholic muslim whatever religion or flavor you want to go with they atheism versus that it's the exact same thing either you believe in nothing or you believe in everything you know i mean but nothing is nothing everything is everything and i got to the point to where it's like i don't really believe in any religion i think all religions all of them spirituality I call it the source. And the aspect is, you know, I wrote this little thing called the law of amplification. And the way I try to actually maximize it is you take specific biological aspects of it. Source DNA or non-coding DNA, I think is the most, I'm going to get really off topic here, but I'm going to circle back, I promise you. Genetics and virology, I think are two of the most unique things that I think will develop the future of medicine. Virology, I think viruses are probably the most amazing machinery on earth. I really do. I think if we would take HIV or anything and flip it on its head and actually try to make workforce, we will live forever. Okay. And I think CRISPR is the future of wellness medicine. Granted right now it's a, it's a, it's a war crime if you do it, but I think it's fascinating, but it's, it's kind of unique, you know, you know, 96% of our DNA, you know, that, that, that last little bit is, is what makes us, us that, that other 96.5% they considered garbage DNA. They literally call it garbage DNA. And if you take a look at that, that's, that's, that's homologous throughout the entire aspect of organisms on earth. You know what I mean? Like in the way it's set up in such a unique structure, like, you know, when it comes to geometry, it's a perfect antenna. Right. It's literally an antenna. And with how your brain and your heart work both on electrical and magnetic fields and things like that, you're literally broadcasting your life to whatever it is. Right. You know what I mean? Like, and my biggest thing is there is a source. There has to be something that created this beautiful collaboration. Incredible universe. This symphony of random nonsense. You know what I mean? Absolutely. And I always sit there and say, like, you know, I think the synergy between, you know, God needing, or God, whatever you want to call it. I'm going to call it the source. The source needing us versus us needing the source. And I think, you know, as the source, it created something so beautiful, but it could never appreciate it. It needs us to appreciate it for it. Just like Beethoven when he hears the Ninth Symphony, you can't appreciate it. He wrote it, you know what I mean? Like, you can't sit down and be like, what is this? You know what I mean? Like, you can't do it. That ah, the shock, the yay. That holy crap moment, you know what I mean? And I think, you know, I've been unknowingly living my life towards that type of religious doctrine or whatever it could be. It's just make your life as extravagant and unique as possible. Because what happens is, the more you make it unique and crazy, the more the source learns. You know what I mean? Like, so there's probably 80 things I've done in my life that no other human has done. And it's probably like getting to fight with a sperm whale and all kinds of weird stuff that I have documented. But the cool thing is the more crazy and extravagant I get, the more I seem to be rewarded for it. As if it's like, keep a show going, give him some more money. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Keep him alive. Exactly. And, you know, I think, you know, when it comes to the experiential aspect of life or the the emotional aspect, because again, mind, body, emotion is what I believe makes up every human being. I think having that aspect of having an idea of what is beyond us is imperative to your physical and your mental health as well. So I am by no way a religious nut. I don't go to church. I don't believe in all that kind of stuff. I think that the world, God is around us and especially in us. And I think the whole aspect of non-coding DNA is probably the most fascinating thing I've ever seen in my entire life and how it actually projects into a signal. Like neural resonance right now how your body is how your heart is beating how your brain is working is actually we're harmonizing together now we're so much more easy and into it you know i mean like we harmonize with with the environment and that's why the people you surround yourself with the people you choose to your closest friends who you marry is such an important decision who you're friends with who you work next to your colleagues it is some of the biggest choices you know what's scary too it's who you have sex with really my god the amount of that goes on between the pair especially when it comes to oxytocin. It's fascinating when it comes to the pair bonding. The reason you usually see relationships that are so toxic, but they have good sex and they can never break it, right? Because every time you orgasm, your brain floods yourself with a massive amount of oxytocin. I thought that only happens for women, not for men. No, for men and women. Oh, by far. It's kind of unique. So what happens is this oxytocin dump happens, okay? And then all of a sudden prolactin, prolactin is a specific type of hormone, sets in. But with women, it's different. It usually hits estrogen and kind of mellows out here. That's why women are very talkative and lovely afterwards men we don't have any estrogen yeah pass out you're done you know what i mean like um and it's unique because it's the same thing that happens when you share something as like an orgasm it takes your your your vibration from beta alpha theta to gamma it's the biggest expression of i guess neural neural activity you can possibly find so if you experience that with somebody else you start to imprint on them and they imprint on you so if you're finding people that are, I don't know how to say this politically correctly, that you're just having sex to have sex and it's not like, it's not somebody who adds value to you. Every time you do something sexual or emotional like that, you just, you lose a piece of that energy. You know what I mean? Like, and it's kind of unique to sit there and see how you imprint on people in ways that we still can't fathom yet. The pheromones, everything. It's fascinating. I think, and I say this all the time, you know, to friends and stuff, I think women have to do a better job of protecting their body and their self because just giving yourself away to somebody just shows a lack of respect for yourself as well but then you're talking about it from a scientific point of view but also an energetic drain why do the women just think casual sex is even acceptable i just cannot even get it for the life i think and again i think it's a meaningful bond that you share with a partner i agree with you on that one so i'm curious though what about every now and then you need a werewolf every now and then you got that urge you need to scratch it I think for men it's still different. I think for women, because if you think about the act of sex, right, a man is penetrating a woman, you're going into, you're taking our life force. I think it's a really sacred act. I'm a little old school like that. That's what I believe. I think it's a really sacred, energetic exchange. Oh, I completely agree. And I think men can get away with it more. I think women, because of like the whole, the way. Yeah, they're receptive. I don't want to share that part of myself with just somebody. I would rather share that with a partner that I'm having a meaningful connection with. Yes, maybe it doesn't end in marriage or whatever, but at least you have a healthy, you're monogamous to each other. You have that. And I think the other thing I'll say, women need safety and security. The worst thing you can do for yourself as a woman is sleep around. You need to be in a safe environment, in a safe container with a man that you feel safe, which really enjoy what that intercourse and interchange is. I couldn't agree with you more. And again, I think safety is the number one thing for women. Correct. And how can you have safety if you're just changing partners all the time? And also, how do you have safety if you don't have standards to say that if I share myself with you, I want us to be monogamous. I want us to have an understanding. And I think women need to be seen more than just physical. We need to be emotionally seen. So our safety comes from being seen in so much more than just our body. No, for sure. And I think, I mean, as a man who's single, I think that's part of the most attractive of thing in the world is a woman who's driven, determined, who has a job, who does something unique. You can find a million OnlyFans people out there and this, that, and that. My name is full of that. Everybody's pretty. You know what I mean? Yes, exactly. And find that drive, that uniqueness. And a woman who values herself, you know? Oh, that's the sexiest thing in the world, shit. And that's the difference between some people who get married and you see them, okay, they get married again or whatever it is, they end up in healthy relationships and women who are like, I just can't find love. I was like, well, if you can't find love, do you respect and value yourself? How much do you value you except for coming in and expecting a man to value you? Very true, exactly. How do you establish your worth? Correct. And what does worth mean to you? And the other part of what you were saying that I so deeply agreed with is you have to have the audacity to live your life to its fullest capacity. Unapologetic. Unapologetic. Complete audacity to ask the universe for whatever the hell you want. Exactly. And I said you can either live your life in monotones or you can live your life in a full spectrum of colors. And I choose to wake up every single day and live my life in a full spectrum of colors. I love that. Because I want to live and experience life and participate in my life in all its frequencies, in all its magic. You want to amplify. A hundred percent. I love that. And that's why I think you and I have been friends for so long because we've agreed to see life through this lens and to live and experience and create experiences with friends with how we choose to show up, how we choose to show up online and have this authenticity about us said, we don't care if you don't like us. We don't care if you don't believe in what we believe in. We don't care if you don't practice the world from our political views or life views because we're still us. And we're really comfortable being us. And if that bothers you, that's a you problem. Exactly. And you don't want to share time with those kind of people. No. No, not at all. And if you take away from my authenticity of who I am and who I'm becoming, then why do I care about your opinion? We're getting into it. Very nice. We have to bring you back for a round two now. Let me know. Let me know. We'll have a drip saw next time. We'll have a dude at the office. Exactly. We'll go over the seven different ways to make a woman smile. Exactly. I love you, Ivan. Thank you for coming on the show. It's been such a pleasure. Thank you so much. And thank you for always having my back and being that person I turn to. And I'm like, Ivan, I'm in a crisis. Help fix my health. And you do. And you pull through every single time. I promise you, I was sitting in the car five weeks later from when I called you and said, they're wanting me to get an SSR. I don't want to do it. It completely is a hard no for me. I know it's because I'm not feeling well. Nervous system's unregulated. Body's not absorbing nutrients. I need help. And you said, come in. you put me on these ivs i started taking the right peptides the supplementation started sleeping most important started regulating my nervous system and started calming down and i swear to god i sat in that car five weeks later and said oh my god i feel better than i felt in years i love that you look you're radiant so i mean keep that juice going thanks to all the help that i got thank you i love you thank you so much you